For many years I’ve used 410-420 grain finished weight hunting arrows with excellent results. I have never used any mechanical head in over 50+ years. I have lost 3 deer with what we’re leg bone hits I’m 99% sure of out of literally dozens and dozens of hits. I would be sick if I shot a deer with a mechanical and all it did was poke a small hole because it failed to deploy. IMO, why even take the chance. Wonder how many hunters as they draw their bow think “ boy I sure hope this head works”. Just saying!
Thats awesome to hear. The more people that comment on their arrow weight, the more I realize I’ve been worried about light arrow setups for too long without trying them. Regarding the mechanical heads, I have run sevrs since 2018/2019 and never had any failures. The G5, that might be a head I would wonder about 😳.
I was shooting whitetails with 350grain arrows at 280 fps over 20 years ago. I have an overdraw. Shorter Arrows are stiffer. Todays 70 # Compounds would spit 350grains out at around 330FPS. Todays 80# Compounds should spit the 400 grain arrow around 330FPS. IBO Standard is how most bows are rated. 5grains per lb of bow weight. The front of center just needs to be front of center. Proper fletching is essential. Why would you think 280FPS is flat compared to 330FPS? 350 grains at 330fps=84.65 ft lbs KE and will retain much of that when properly fletched. I use Easton's KE Calculator. My 80 lb Darton Viper Graphite was spitting 405 grain arrows at 291FPS with a 28" draw length in the mid 90's. It had 76.1 ft lbs. 400grains at 330FPS=96.75FT LBS. +50FPS=20 extra ft lbs. That's some over kill. I'd move away from 2 blade mechanicals. Those will cost you deer.
This is all great information. Last year, my lightest setup was 450 grains, so I'm still a little new to the sub-420 grain arrow setup. Depending on how it performs, which I have high confidence (or I wouldn't run them), so I may go lighter next year. I also cut my arrows as short as possible to make the arrows stiffer. My draw length is 27”, so it's difficult for me to break 290 without getting extremely light on my arrow setup. Next week, I'm getting new strings and increasing the poundage to 75. Thanks for watching and for the comment. I appreciate the support.
I’m going ultra ultra light this year I’m shooting victory rip Xv 300 spine 347 grains out my 80# Hoyt alpha x at 344fps 85lbs of ke at 20 yards and my bowtech rpm 360 shooting victory 350 spine rip xv at 327grains at 356fps has 88lbs of ke at 20 yards. I believe if it has a sharp Broadhead anything will kill but ima try to maximize my speed so the animal has less time to react.
I ended up at 510g, 17%+ foc at 273fps and have both Annihilator 125's and Sevr 1.75's tuned to fly. I will be hunting pronghorn, deer, and elk on public open hunts this year and prefer to have one arrow setup that I am confident in, but multiple broadheads options. Always interesting to see others' hunting setups and definitely looking forward to seeing your results with the different types of broadheads. Appreciate the videos, especially to sight reviews lately (looking for a new one), and best of luck this year.
Sounds like a killer setup. I will keep everyone posted on the results and what works best. I'm interested in testing the new Sevr Hybrid and the Beast broadheads. Both should be arriving in the mail soon. Thank you for the support, and let me know if you have any questions on the sights. I'm always happy to help 👊🏼.
Hey Gordon! It was nice meeting you as well. I appreciate your support. It is always nice to meet the people who support what we do. I'm not sure if you have a Facebook account, but I took some pictures of your group and posted them on the R100 Facebook page. Also, if you privately send me your email address on IG, I can email them to you.
Coming from a trad bow background i like generally like a heavier arrow (i killed my Alberta Elk with 635g total arrow weight, 50lb recurve.) But with my compound bow, an OG PSE Xpedite i like 500-550g arrow. Same arrow shaft you've just built, Iron Will components, Sevr Robusto, and 3 good-old-school Blazer vanes. Nice video. Subscribing was an easy decision 👍.
Thanks, man! I appreciate the support! Thats awesome you got an elk with a trad bow. Thats a huge accomplishment. I just picked up a trad bow to play around with.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors I just did all the online calculators and realized I can actually get a 3lbs more energy and 30+ fps with the same FOC. Just need Oct. 1 to get here. Keep up the great content.
@justinwright82 that's a no-brainer. The last thing I need to test is the arrow flight, but these are only 17 grains heavier than my TAC arrows, so I expect them to fly great.
I ordered the same arrow at the same spine. 29.75 carbon to carbon with 3 tac 2.75's on the back, stock nock (no wrap), 30 grain podium archery titanium half out, and 125 grain point. I'm coming in at 443 grains TAW and 13% FOC. I haven't chronoed it, but based on the Axcel sight tape I landed on, I am guessing high 270's to low 280's.. I initially started with 100 grains up front but I wasn't happy with the flight beyond 40 yards so I threw 125's up there and that seemed to settle things down. I'm tempted to bump my draw weight up a bit to chase a little more speed and or add fact weights and bump the foc up.... An arrow I'm tempted to order is the Gold Tip black Label Quantum... 8.3 GPI on their 300 spine which might make for an even more modular arrow build in terms of chasing velocity and 15% plus FOC.
I’ll also be bumping my draw weight up. At that point, depending on my speed, I might go 125 grains, but we will see. There is plenty of time for some more testing! Thanks for watching👊🏼
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors 375 to 400 grain arrows are tricky to build without an overdraw for most adult bows. What bow are you shooting and what draw length? You said it's short. I built my arrows. Take an 8.3 GPI cut it down to 26" add insert nock, fletches, point. 350 t0 375 or so. 4"Overdraw=30 inch draw length can shoot a 26" arrow. Shorter Arrows have stiffer spine enhancements. That's the way I had to build mine for 70lb bows. Newer Carbon Version of my mid 90's setup. For 80lb arrows go up a spine for more stiffness. They are a little Heavier. Close to the same equation for 400 grain arrows. The heavier you go lets you lose the overdraw. Going to longer Arrows and losing spine enhancements. Good Luck this Season and God Bless, C.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors I keep hearing. I fletch 4mm VAP TKO’s with AAE Max Stealth, left helical, using a Bitz. They go on and stay on without issue - and replacing a damaged vane is super easy. I don’t use wraps because it adds an extra step, costs, more, and adds weight to the back of the arrow - a big no-no for me. Most people use wraps for the aesthetics. I enjoy your content. Thanks for the reply.
For many years I’ve used 410-420 grain finished weight hunting arrows with excellent results. I have never used any mechanical head in over 50+ years. I have lost 3 deer with what we’re leg bone hits I’m 99% sure of out of literally dozens and dozens of hits. I would be sick if I shot a deer with a mechanical and all it did was poke a small hole because it failed to deploy. IMO, why even take the chance. Wonder how many hunters as they draw their bow think “ boy I sure hope this head works”. Just saying!
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It’s always interesting to how different broadheads do in real tests.
I will definitely document the performance and make a follow-up video.
Thanks for watching.
For many years I’ve used 410-420 grain finished weight hunting arrows with excellent results. I have never used any mechanical head in over 50+ years. I have lost 3 deer with what we’re leg bone hits I’m 99% sure of out of literally dozens and dozens of hits. I would be sick if I shot a deer with a mechanical and all it did was poke a small hole because it failed to deploy. IMO, why even take the chance. Wonder how many hunters as they draw their bow think “ boy I sure hope this head works”. Just saying!
Thats awesome to hear. The more people that comment on their arrow weight, the more I realize I’ve been worried about light arrow setups for too long without trying them.
Regarding the mechanical heads, I have run sevrs since 2018/2019 and never had any failures.
The G5, that might be a head I would wonder about 😳.
I was shooting whitetails with 350grain arrows at 280 fps over 20 years ago. I have an overdraw. Shorter Arrows are stiffer. Todays 70 # Compounds would spit 350grains out at around 330FPS. Todays 80# Compounds should spit the 400 grain arrow around 330FPS. IBO Standard is how most bows are rated. 5grains per lb of bow weight. The front of center just needs to be front of center. Proper fletching is essential. Why would you think 280FPS is flat compared to 330FPS? 350 grains at 330fps=84.65 ft lbs KE and will retain much of that when properly fletched. I use Easton's KE Calculator. My 80 lb Darton Viper Graphite was spitting 405 grain arrows at 291FPS with a 28" draw length in the mid 90's. It had 76.1 ft lbs. 400grains at 330FPS=96.75FT LBS. +50FPS=20 extra ft lbs. That's some over kill. I'd move away from 2 blade mechanicals. Those will cost you deer.
This is all great information. Last year, my lightest setup was 450 grains, so I'm still a little new to the sub-420 grain arrow setup.
Depending on how it performs, which I have high confidence (or I wouldn't run them), so I may go lighter next year.
I also cut my arrows as short as possible to make the arrows stiffer.
My draw length is 27”, so it's difficult for me to break 290 without getting extremely light on my arrow setup.
Next week, I'm getting new strings and increasing the poundage to 75.
Thanks for watching and for the comment. I appreciate the support.
I’m going ultra ultra light this year I’m shooting victory rip Xv 300 spine 347 grains out my 80# Hoyt alpha x at 344fps 85lbs of ke at 20 yards and my bowtech rpm 360 shooting victory 350 spine rip xv at 327grains at 356fps has 88lbs of ke at 20 yards. I believe if it has a sharp Broadhead anything will kill but ima try to maximize my speed so the animal has less time to react.
@hunterbragg2566 344 🔥🔥Thats fast, man. With my draw length, it's hard to break 295.
@@hunterbragg2566 LOL. I don't think Hoyt would warranty that one when it blows up. Funny though.
@@christopherwatson283 if they don’t then I’d tell them not to put the ibo at 344 if it can’t shoot that lol
I ended up at 510g, 17%+ foc at 273fps and have both Annihilator 125's and Sevr 1.75's tuned to fly. I will be hunting pronghorn, deer, and elk on public open hunts this year and prefer to have one arrow setup that I am confident in, but multiple broadheads options.
Always interesting to see others' hunting setups and definitely looking forward to seeing your results with the different types of broadheads. Appreciate the videos, especially to sight reviews lately (looking for a new one), and best of luck this year.
Sounds like a killer setup. I will keep everyone posted on the results and what works best. I'm interested in testing the new Sevr Hybrid and the Beast broadheads. Both should be arriving in the mail soon.
Thank you for the support, and let me know if you have any questions on the sights. I'm always happy to help 👊🏼.
It was nice to meet you at the R100 last weekend. Keep up the great content.
Hey Gordon! It was nice meeting you as well. I appreciate your support. It is always nice to meet the people who support what we do.
I'm not sure if you have a Facebook account, but I took some pictures of your group and posted them on the R100 Facebook page.
Also, if you privately send me your email address on IG, I can email them to you.
Coming from a trad bow background i like generally like a heavier arrow (i killed my Alberta Elk with 635g total arrow weight, 50lb recurve.) But with my compound bow, an OG PSE Xpedite i like 500-550g arrow. Same arrow shaft you've just built, Iron Will components, Sevr Robusto, and 3 good-old-school Blazer vanes. Nice video. Subscribing was an easy decision 👍.
Thanks, man! I appreciate the support!
Thats awesome you got an elk with a trad bow. Thats a huge accomplishment.
I just picked up a trad bow to play around with.
I switched from 5mm Axis to VAP elites. Took 100gr. off total weight, and the speed increase and penetration are very noticeable.
Awesome! Thats good to know and based on the comments, it looks like I'm not the only one going lighter in arrow weight.
Thanks for watching.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors I just did all the online calculators and realized I can actually get a 3lbs more energy and 30+ fps with the same FOC. Just need Oct. 1 to get here. Keep up the great content.
@justinwright82 that's a no-brainer.
The last thing I need to test is the arrow flight, but these are only 17 grains heavier than my TAC arrows, so I expect them to fly great.
Interesting. I did not know this.
That got aggressive 😂
I lost my 8 pt. buck last year because of Dead Meats.. V2';s... Highly recommend against them . Penetration is horrible.
I ordered the same arrow at the same spine. 29.75 carbon to carbon with 3 tac 2.75's on the back, stock nock (no wrap), 30 grain podium archery titanium half out, and 125 grain point. I'm coming in at 443 grains TAW and 13% FOC. I haven't chronoed it, but based on the Axcel sight tape I landed on, I am guessing high 270's to low 280's..
I initially started with 100 grains up front but I wasn't happy with the flight beyond 40 yards so I threw 125's up there and that seemed to settle things down.
I'm tempted to bump my draw weight up a bit to chase a little more speed and or add fact weights and bump the foc up....
An arrow I'm tempted to order is the Gold Tip black Label Quantum... 8.3 GPI on their 300 spine which might make for an even more modular arrow build in terms of chasing velocity and 15% plus FOC.
I’ll also be bumping my draw weight up. At that point, depending on my speed, I might go 125 grains, but we will see. There is plenty of time for some more testing!
Thanks for watching👊🏼
What is your poundage?
@daveyboy8907 73lbs at the moment, but I'll turn it up to 75 for hunting season.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors 375 to 400 grain arrows are tricky to build without an overdraw for most adult bows. What bow are you shooting and what draw length? You said it's short. I built my arrows. Take an 8.3 GPI cut it down to 26" add insert nock, fletches, point. 350 t0 375 or so. 4"Overdraw=30 inch draw length can shoot a 26" arrow. Shorter Arrows have stiffer spine enhancements. That's the way I had to build mine for 70lb bows. Newer Carbon Version of my mid 90's setup. For 80lb arrows go up a spine for more stiffness. They are a little Heavier. Close to the same equation for 400 grain arrows. The heavier you go lets you lose the overdraw. Going to longer Arrows and losing spine enhancements. Good Luck this Season and God Bless, C.
@christopherwatson283 Thanks for the information!
I am shooting a PSE Mach 30 this year at 73 lbs with a 27” draw.
What vane?
Bohning Heat vanes
1250 grains or nothing
😂😂
Stop using wraps. They serve no purpose, add unnecessary weight to the back and decrease FOC.
They make re-fletching arrows a lot easier.
@@MichiganAmBushOutdoors I keep hearing. I fletch 4mm VAP TKO’s with AAE Max Stealth, left helical, using a Bitz. They go on and stay on without issue - and replacing a damaged vane is super easy. I don’t use wraps because it adds an extra step, costs, more, and adds weight to the back of the arrow - a big no-no for me. Most people use wraps for the aesthetics. I enjoy your content. Thanks for the reply.
For many years I’ve used 410-420 grain finished weight hunting arrows with excellent results. I have never used any mechanical head in over 50+ years. I have lost 3 deer with what we’re leg bone hits I’m 99% sure of out of literally dozens and dozens of hits. I would be sick if I shot a deer with a mechanical and all it did was poke a small hole because it failed to deploy. IMO, why even take the chance. Wonder how many hunters as they draw their bow think “ boy I sure hope this head works”. Just saying!