@@Holdon33 ok. So the cutting method is just a way to get them out quicker/easier if you're not planning to sell or reuse the old pushrods. Got it. Thanks! Solid, informative video.
@@TobyNorthEN If you are going to Stage 3 or stage 4 where you change pistons (big bore) or change heads(bigger Valves) then you pull all of that apart and you wont cut them.
The difference between 2:46 and 13:30 minute marks is why I always go stage two. That aggressive WAP! sound just makes me happy, even on someone else's bike Love it.
So many small but important details left out: adjusting the pushrods, making sure the timing gears are perfectly aligned , the cam bearing depth , all very important!
I think more that is made to be modified from factory. I came from a GSXR to a 2020 Low Rider S.. it started as 80 HP, with stage 2, 475 cam it now makes 126 HP. The factory motor is there to be beefed with when you buy the bike unless your learning.
@@IAmTheLittleTeaPot seems that way doesn't it? First thing most people do with there Harley's is change the seat, bars, pipes, air cleaner, and maybe cams.
I'm going with the WOOD 22XE cam. Hauling bike to FuelMoto this winter... 2019 RK Special w/Arlen Ness monster sucker. V&H power duals, SVT Boneshakers & FP3
You will be happy you did. I have run the 475 the 22xx the 222 all the woods cams pull much better than SS 475. If your just a bar hopper thats want snotty cam 475 was good for that.... but nowhere near the pull of woods
That stage 2 sound awesome and I bet the performance is going to be outrageous but the pushrods needed to be chrome it give it the extra bling my opinion I would it see the pushrod install and the adjustment procedure but all in all great Video 👍
Did this kit on my street glide I get complements all the time on how she sounds like a real Harley now lol Oh and when doing this or the other aftermarket kits they want 5 thousands or less of run out on the crank be sure to check how much your bike has because Harley allows for zero to twelve on the build from the factory. It's crazy to me but that's how there building them now.
Installed ss cam plate,pump anf 475 with powervision... big improvement over stock. Was happy till SS pump broke. Scored my crank a bit so pissed me off. But after screwing around SS gave me a new pump. But i also had done same job with woods wm8 222 cam. So much more seat of the pants pull. I switched when i did my personal over again to the woods wm8 222. Big improvement. So 475 cam sounds good but nowhere near as much pull on the 1800-4800 range. No more 475
I had that same bike, color scheme and everything. Had a stage 2 with a 447 cam, 2 into 1 exhaust with left side ghost pipe. I miss that bike, something bad. Kicking myself in the ass for letting the dealership sucker me into something else.
Hello. That's a nice bike. I have a question. My motorcycle is fltrx which was shipped in 22 years. I usually run from 1500 rpm to 3500 rpm. What kind of camera is right for me? 475? 465? Does 475 have a severe fever? I want to change the camera and feel the vibration and sound more shaky than the pure sound and vibration. Like an old bike. Is the 475c cam effective after 2500 rpm? Does the 465c cam have a good effect from 1500 rpm? Thank you for reading the question and please reply. Have a nice day.
DOOWORK PRODUCTIONS sometimes... 50 years using SS but some screw up recently that were very costly. Still use there product but check their quality control.... not what it used too be. Customer service not so good either...
Love that paint scheme. .....badass bike, I'm guessing this voids any warranty on the bike?.....those lobes on that cam are like twice the size as the stocker.....this thing is gonna thump!!!
DOOWORK PRODUCTIONS 2 into 1 would be head pipes, I was asking about the slip ons. Maybe it’s just how they sound over camera. Just seems quiet. Sick looking bike, but louder the better. I am running tab slip ons and hopefully Monday or Tuesday my bassanie 2x2 will come in. I basically want my neighbors to hate me. Typically how much does it cost 2 do a stage II
Did you have any issues removing the Tappet cover or tappet cuff bolts? I have hear that some of them have snapped during removal and had to be extracted from the case.
Michael, I'm not challenging you, but the "better" sound is relevant to the listener. It depends on what the end goal is. Putting this 2020 and your 2019 on a dyno and seeing the results might make a huge difference. But I have a buddy who just bought a 2020 RG Limited and had the 450 Torquer put on and he loves the sound. I thought it sounded good too. I have a 2016 RG CVO Ultra with true dual Rhinehart Racing exhaust and headers and it sounds totally different from his.
MoonshineHD did a good set of cam test videos. Part of the test was comparing a D&D billet category 2-1 pipe vs Fullsac 2-1-2. In most cases, the 2-1-2 made more power and torque- especially torque. Not all cases, but most cases.
Oh and didn't see a sprocket alignment check between the face of the crank sprocket and cam sprocket. I had to go with a .010 thicker washer out of the spacer kit to be within spec on my bike and often have to swap washers on customer bikes. Finally, ALWAYS new bolts on the sprockets.
Tell me you changed intake manifolds..... got rid of the plastic piece. If not.... you will have to eventually. Also it'll add an additional 4-6 hp. SE Maxflo 55mm.
Is cutting the pushrods the only way to change them out?
No, you can take the tank off and the rocker boxes off , but it is more work. The S&S kit comes with adjustable push rods.
That was my question, but it was explained
@@Holdon33 ok. So the cutting method is just a way to get them out quicker/easier if you're not planning to sell or reuse the old pushrods. Got it. Thanks! Solid, informative video.
@@TobyNorthEN If you are going to Stage 3 or stage 4 where you change pistons (big bore) or change heads(bigger Valves) then you pull all of that apart and you wont cut them.
@@Holdon33 THAT is incredibly helpful! Thanks!
You glazed right past measuring the inside cam bearing depth. They don't just bottom like a twin cam. The cam thrust is set by bearing depth on a m8
The difference between 2:46 and 13:30 minute marks is why I always go stage two. That aggressive WAP! sound just makes me happy, even on someone else's bike Love it.
So many small but important details left out: adjusting the pushrods, making sure the timing gears are perfectly aligned , the cam bearing depth , all very important!
When it clicks, you’re good bud.
That’s sounded wicked after that cam install!!! Great job guys!!!
Great video. I’m new to Harley coming from the sport bike world. Watching this install shows what an elegant design the Harley engine is.
I think more that is made to be modified from factory. I came from a GSXR to a 2020 Low Rider S.. it started as 80 HP, with stage 2, 475 cam it now makes 126 HP. The factory motor is there to be beefed with when you buy the bike unless your learning.
@@IAmTheLittleTeaPot seems that way doesn't it? First thing most people do with there Harley's is change the seat, bars, pipes, air cleaner, and maybe cams.
This is the kit I want to put in my 19 RGS. Thanks for showing us the install.
I'm going with the WOOD 22XE cam. Hauling bike to FuelMoto this winter...
2019 RK Special w/Arlen Ness monster sucker. V&H power duals, SVT Boneshakers & FP3
You will be happy you did. I have run the 475 the 22xx the 222 all the woods cams pull much better than SS 475.
If your just a bar hopper thats want snotty cam 475 was good for that.... but nowhere near the pull of woods
Truly amazing work. Beautiful bike, You can hear the lower growl. I totally love the black rods
That stage 2 sound awesome and I bet the performance is going to be outrageous but the pushrods needed to be chrome it give it the extra bling my opinion I would it see the pushrod install and the adjustment procedure but all in all great Video 👍
Looks nice-----
Getting the same thing but I'm running a full rhinehart headers and slipons
Did this kit on my street glide I get complements all the time on how she sounds like a real Harley now lol
Oh and when doing this or the other aftermarket kits they want 5 thousands or less of run out on the crank be sure to check how much your bike has because Harley allows for zero to twelve on the build from the factory. It's crazy to me but that's how there building them now.
Installed ss cam plate,pump anf 475 with powervision... big improvement over stock. Was happy till SS pump broke. Scored my crank a bit so pissed me off. But after screwing around SS gave me a new pump. But i also had done same job with woods wm8 222 cam. So much more seat of the pants pull. I switched when i did my personal over again to the woods wm8 222. Big improvement. So 475 cam sounds good but nowhere near as much pull on the 1800-4800 range.
No more 475
Damn, you guys do good work!
Sounds amazing guys !
The 114 has proven to be extremely 👍👍
You need to flash tune that ASAP I personally would have done that before attempting to start the bike.
Maybe a little bit different but the Tab Zombie pipes will make it sound very loud
That’s a beauty of a bike 🙂
My local dealership has the same marked down to $26 from $32. They damaged it in transport , right side of fairing
Best D&D video on you tube.
Really good looking bike . Nice paint job and with the new cam should run really nice .
Love the black push rod covers. Didn't think I would, but , Nice!
Those exhaust sound nice. Deep and low.
I had that same bike, color scheme and everything.
Had a stage 2 with a 447 cam, 2 into 1 exhaust with left side ghost pipe.
I miss that bike, something bad.
Kicking myself in the ass for letting the dealership sucker me into something else.
I have the same kit but not sure how to make push rod adjustments
Got my s&s 475 cam in the mail today..im on the fence with the push rods not sure to go black or reuse the stock ones
Don't re-use the stock ones..
Find a good dyno tuner in your area asap. A fuelmoto tune is just a starting point. A dyno session completes the job. 👍👍
Great work! Bike looks and sounds awesome!
getting ready to do mine not sure if i will use s&s or zippers redshift cam your bike has a nice bark
Dang, love it!!! So good!!! Mine is due for this cam in about a month and cannot wait!
Well?
@@anthonysayo6766 Love the cam! Awesome lope at idle and great power at 3000 to redline.
I love the black push roads
Did you check for run out on the shaft before installing the plac]te and pump?
Yes.
Black is looking good, I love this bike keep building it.
Much better with all the black!!!!
I like the Chrome Not into black nice bike Very nice HD niel AKA the Crock
Sounds a lot better. Look great blacked out
My Road Glide Special is all blacked out except for the covers and push rod covers..they are chrome, wth does Harley do that?? Lol
Sounds like a whole different beast!
Good job guys
Should have done the redshift 468 cam!
The S&S 475 is actually pretty comparable to the Redshift 472.
468 is undersized. It’s really meant for 107. I’m running the 468 on my stage 4 and it’s a little short. Runs like a beast still though 🤷🏾♂️
@@colinallen68 it works really well for a stage 2. Anymore than that I would go with the 472 !
What was that little black block you used in between the gears to prevent them from moving?
Just got the same done to mine don’t know what cam was used though I have a road rage pipe though (17 road glide)
Hi very informative video. Did you change the valve springs when you installed your new cam? Thx
No we did not.. Not necessary for this cam.
Been waiting on more Harley content! 🔥
When did the cam go in lol
The black looks great
Hello. That's a nice bike. I have a question. My motorcycle is fltrx which was shipped in 22 years. I usually run from 1500 rpm to 3500 rpm. What kind of camera is right for me? 475? 465?
Does 475 have a severe fever? I want to change the camera and feel the vibration and sound more shaky than the pure sound and vibration. Like an old bike. Is the 475c cam effective after 2500 rpm? Does the 465c cam have a good effect from 1500 rpm?
Thank you for reading the question and please reply. Have a nice day.
Well done guys!
Thank you, you make a great product! Very satisfied!
DOOWORK PRODUCTIONS sometimes... 50 years using SS but some screw up recently that were very costly. Still use there product but check their quality control.... not what it used too be. Customer service not so good either...
Wow!! Nicely done boys.
How much more power does it make and at what cost?Give the figures.
What was the adjustments on the push rods ? Didn’t you have to check end play on the cam?
What a great install and sound clip video!!
Love that paint scheme. .....badass bike, I'm guessing this voids any warranty on the bike?.....those lobes on that cam are like twice the size as the stocker.....this thing is gonna thump!!!
Yes, this will void your factory warranty through Harley..
As far as baggers goes Harley is where it's at . Sweet bike
You want to work on my bike ? 😂 You and your Dad should open a shop !
Why didn't you check the runout?
Great video! Thanks for ur efforts!!
How much difference would it be if the pipes weren’t two in to one? I’m looking for horsepower at 115 and torque around 120+. I plan on get a 2021 RGS
The 2 into 1 pipes pick up about 10 more HP than a true dual..
Its the lobe of the camshaft why you can't spin the push rod not compression ;)
I prefer chrome and the redshift cams.
It'll sound completely different after you run the Auto-Tune function on the power vision for three or four rides and then save it to the map
Auto-tune basic is pretty useless outside maybe a Stage 1 due to the lack of wide band sensors. Either add the Target Tune or dyno tune it.
Man I wanted to see chic at the first of intro!! Lol sounds good man but can you get a cam that has a lotta thump?
Great, clean work!!... Would take my bike to you guys anytime!!
Hey what brand and sizes of torch wrenches your using??
Did fuel moto send you a new tune
Yes.
90 ft lbs on a small bolt? maybe 90" pounds
What kind & size bars are those ?
KST 12 inch Spearhead
is the black laramie your dads?
What is that arlen ness throttle body? Or is it just a badge you put in there?
It was from an arlen ness air cleaner, it comes with that faceplate to screw on to your throttle body.
Yup! I likes it!
Do you have to add some engine oil after opening up the cam chest?
Yes.
The d&d , what baffle does it have ?
Link is gone to the tappet covers.
Those pipes have to go. Are they stock screaming eagle?
No, they are D&D 2 into 1..
DOOWORK PRODUCTIONS 2 into 1 would be head pipes, I was asking about the slip ons. Maybe it’s just how they sound over camera. Just seems quiet. Sick looking bike, but louder the better. I am running tab slip ons and hopefully Monday or Tuesday my bassanie 2x2 will come in. I basically want my neighbors to hate me. Typically how much does it cost 2 do a stage II
What do i do with the extra parts??
Will the d&d 2 into 1 exhaust void the factory warranty? Just got the 2020 rg and need some more sound.
just the tuner will void it if it's not the SE PRO STREET TUNER.
No, unless you tune the bike, then you lose the warranty.
Did you have any issues removing the Tappet cover or tappet cuff bolts? I have hear that some of them have snapped during removal and had to be extracted from the case.
Nope
Excellent job guys, love the good video..
Do they making a gear drive for these yet?
Nice work..
What did you tune it with ?
Did you say , torque the cam plate to 90 lbs. Seems high
in./lbs.
Whats the name of the song playing in the background???
Nice Scooter 🏁
Any comment on lifter cuff bolt removal?
Some bikes are harder to get out than others that's forsure.
@@DOOWORKMOTORSPORTS did u have to apply heat?
@@tunerd1 On some bikes we did. This particular bike we did not.
What tuner did you use and did you dyno tune it?
Dyno Jet Power Vision, and no we did not dyno tune it. We received a tune from Fuel Moto and flashed it. Bike runs great!
Shonuff sounds great!!!
Did you check crank runout ?
My 2019 Road Glide 114 Special stock with new Vance & Hines 450 Torquer exhaust sounds much better. I’ve never been a fan of 2 into 1 exhaust.
Michael, I'm not challenging you, but the "better" sound is relevant to the listener. It depends on what the end goal is. Putting this 2020 and your 2019 on a dyno and seeing the results might make a huge difference.
But I have a buddy who just bought a 2020 RG Limited and had the 450 Torquer put on and he loves the sound. I thought it sounded good too. I have a 2016 RG CVO Ultra with true dual Rhinehart Racing exhaust and headers and it sounds totally different from his.
All good points you make Toby.
True duals for sound and looks....2-1 for powa!!!
MoonshineHD did a good set of cam test videos. Part of the test was comparing a D&D billet category 2-1 pipe vs Fullsac 2-1-2. In most cases, the 2-1-2 made more power and torque- especially torque.
Not all cases, but most cases.
Black tubes look great!
What air cleaner is that
Arlen Ness
Wow! Great job on the video and the installation!!! And the black pushrods look great too! 😁👏💪
Whose tuning did you use for the new cam?
Fuel Moto
Did you guys do a valve adjustment for this.
We adjusted the valves by rolling it over in 6th gear before we started it to make sure all clearences were done to spec.
NO RUNOUT MEASURE??? That is imperative!!
Thought the same thing. Plus need to use feeler gauge against the tappets in the cuffs while tightening.
Oh and didn't see a sprocket alignment check between the face of the crank sprocket and cam sprocket. I had to go with a .010 thicker washer out of the spacer kit to be within spec on my bike and often have to swap washers on customer bikes. Finally, ALWAYS new bolts on the sprockets.
@@richardsak887 We did use a feeler guage in the cuffs while tightening
@@richardsak887 We did do the sprocket alignment check also.
Tell me you changed intake manifolds..... got rid of the plastic piece. If not.... you will have to eventually. Also it'll add an additional 4-6 hp. SE Maxflo 55mm.
I'm a simple man, I see a blonde on a bike I click.
I clicked because of panty line.
Did you have to run a Dynotune on it after the cam??
No, I got a canned tune from Fuel Moto..
Are the pipes two into one with a dummy pipe? Sounds great 👍🏾
Yes
Man that thing sounds so bad ass
Great job and thanks for posting!