Easy Hotend Benchmark for FAST PRINTING Profiles

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    If you want to print fast, you need to benchmark your hotend! I made this super simple by creating a simple tool that you can use to create a test G-Code that will help you to find out what the performance of your hotend really is! Using this knowledge, we’ll go over how you can create a fast draft printing profile in PrusaSlicer and basically any other slicer to print for example this part right here 160% faster on a cheap Ender-3!
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  • @CNCKitchen
    @CNCKitchen  2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

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  • @FilamentStories
    @FilamentStories 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    You've created the most delicious looking benchmarking tool with those coextrusion blobs! I love pushing speed when printing models, but I want to print quality models, not just print quickly. Thanks, as always, for such clear information on filament flow rates and your new profiling tool!

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you very much!

    • @cw-bk4dq
      @cw-bk4dq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      reminds me of penny sweets from 30 years ago pick and mix

    • @stevenbmw850
      @stevenbmw850 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CNCKitchen could you benchmark the hotend on the bambu X1C?

  • @FilamentFriday
    @FilamentFriday 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Great video. Thanks for the mention. If you increase the extrusion width on my Extra Fast Profile you’ll also see lower numbers as well. I leave adjusting the temp to the user as each filament is different. I also still include many settings that give small improvements in quality. So there is some compromise.
    So many people have asked for a Prusa version of my profile. I’ll just send them here. You cover it well.

    • @FilmFactry
      @FilmFactry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Your Cura profile is my default profile now!

    • @soundspark
      @soundspark 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @spock81
    @spock81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Great video! One other thing that I've done is use Prusaslicer's "Max Volumetric Flow Rate" to limit print speed. Then I can just set infill speeds to something like 120mm/s and let the volumetric flow rate automatically keep the speed at the max.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great tip!

    • @TheHamster4430
      @TheHamster4430 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was a reason why some tests didn't work for me in the past.

  • @edwinirizarry9277
    @edwinirizarry9277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So glad you are part of this wonderful community everyone knows Stefan is the man for the technical info and I thank you so much for your work good sir !!!

  • @bennylloyd-willner9667
    @bennylloyd-willner9667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just started with 3D printing, getting a Prusa i3 MK3S+ about two months ago. I think my journey to great prints is immensely sped up just by watching and learning on one channel, this one. So much information and still digestible for a newbie. Been watching this channel for about a year to learn stuff before deciding which printer to get. Stefan never disappoints, every video is crammed with great info and tests. The presentation makes it easy to understand and enjoy 👍.
    Keep it up, I impress my friends with your knowledge 😁

  • @247printing
    @247printing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Genius approach! Looking forward to using your tool - that's going to help a lot and saves time 😍

  • @Kyrazlan
    @Kyrazlan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man. You're a huge wealth of knowledge and explaining an analytical approach to tuning. Never stop.

  • @kasiya2660
    @kasiya2660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    In case anyone else is using Klipper, I had to edit a couple of things to get it to run. In M109 R## the "R" needs to be replaced with "S", then I needed to disable some machine software limits under [extruder], adding max_extrude_cross_section: 5 and max_extrude_only_distance: 500.0. (For safety I'm going to comment them out when not running the test).
    Hopefully this helps someone!

    • @dsp4392
      @dsp4392 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey it helped me! Figuring out the right value for max_extrude_only_distance is easy enough, but max_extrude_cross_section is not as straightforward, so thanks for providing something to work with.

    • @kasiya2660
      @kasiya2660 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dsp4392 no problem! I hate when people don't post their solutions to issues like this, it just ends up with everyone going on their own wild goose chase 😅

    • @MrDBT85
      @MrDBT85 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much, Couldn't get this working until I saw this post. Surprised it hasn't been added to the web page for the gcode generator so that people see it.

  • @IngenieroSaborio
    @IngenieroSaborio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is golden! I used the previous method you developed to identify the capabilities of my heavily modified Ender 3 with very good results. The Aquiles heel of my set-up is still the extruder, but based on what I found out with your experiment, that soon will be also replaced. Awesome work!

  • @ChaseDaigle
    @ChaseDaigle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Stephan, I'm usually deciding on extrusion parameters and setting my feed rate to achieve a target volumetric flow rate. So glad you pointed out matte vs glossy surfaces as well as an indicator of how well material was melted.

  • @properprinting
    @properprinting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very valuable info! I especially liked how you referred back to the real flow measurement results to determine the actual print temperature. I usually take an educated guess and start praying 🤣

  • @livewiya
    @livewiya ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the greatest pearl of wisdom here is determine the flow rate of the part, then adjust temp. I generally default temp based on material, but give a lot of thought to adjusting speed based on the needs of the print job. Definitely plan to switch my order of operations here.

  • @garagehack9271
    @garagehack9271 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just spent most of the last week learning this all this the hard way to tune PETG on my heavily modified ender 5 pro. Well done as usual

  • @liesinc.9322
    @liesinc.9322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, simply awesome. This is the most impactful 3d printing video I've watched this year. I've got an Ender 5 Plus with a direct drive Bondtech LGX through a mosquito hot end. I had no idea it could push so much volume. I'm still tuning but so far I'm blown away with the rates it's achieving. Thank you!

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @fleebertreatise1063
    @fleebertreatise1063 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is so much info in this video. New to 3D printing (but have watched some videos here and there) and it gives me a lot of ideas of how to test. Thanks dude

  • @orphax1925
    @orphax1925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    hey!! I tried to make a sub-10min benchy on my ender3 a few month ago (settled on 10'33" for the moment) one of the parameter that can be useful is the skin line orientation, making it more aligned with the X axis allows the light print head to do most of the rapid accelerations ;)

    • @benjaminshields9421
      @benjaminshields9421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What bed are you using?

    • @ralfr321
      @ralfr321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please make a video of it.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sounds great! Any more information on your setup and settings available somewhere?

    • @orphax1925
      @orphax1925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      stock bed, stock motion system (but with 95% rated current), I modified the print head a bit with a Sherpa extruder and bi-metal heatbreak + I modified the v6 nozzle with 0.4mm brass wire like in your videos (I kept the stock hotend and fans, the quality of the benchy is quite poor to say the least) then I mostly played with all the cura settings to optimize what I could, didn't post anything because there are 6min ender3 benchys out here using klipper (way too complicated for my mecanical engineer mind) but maybe one day.. 😶 I'll follow this comment with my settings when I have time to do so

  • @shannim5
    @shannim5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stefan, thanks yet again for your amazing work and video! Keep it up!
    While I haven't download your .gcode and tool yet, I did download your profile and compared it to my default profile for a 0.6mm nozzle @ 0.32 mm layer height on my Ender 3 Pro. After copying over pretty much all you setting changes I printed the cylinder that you had on the build plate twice with the same 0.32 mm layer height. Including heat up time for both the nozzle and bed from room temperature, my default profile took 28:49 minutes. Modified with you tweaks, it finished in 17:46 minutes (again, including heat up time for both nozzle and bed). That saved a whopping 11:03 minutes (38.35%)!!! The increase in temps (215 vs 230) sufficiently allowed for increase in speeds (both max and average) as well as volumetric flow rates (again, both max and average). I will definitely need to download your tool and do of my own experiments to gather actual data, but for now I am super happy!
    Thank you so much!

  • @86abaile
    @86abaile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm glad you made this; it validates a comment I left on a video last year about how we've been tuning our printers wrong for so long. Previously the common wisdom was to just change print speed, but this ignored that the printer has to first accelerate to that speed and often never gets there. My ide (based on a teaching tech video) was that we should instead be focussed on finding out our printer's max extrusion rate for a given filament and temp, work out a given nozzle's maximum print speed based on that and then instead adjust acceleration and jerk to affect print speed.

  • @BigBlack81
    @BigBlack81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    THIS is the content that makes 3D printing so amazing to me, even though I've yet to buy my first printer.
    Seeing this makes me want to get a cheap Ender just to tune it patiently. Tools like this make it possible.

    • @mikemazzantini6397
      @mikemazzantini6397 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Get that Ender, you won't be sorry.

    • @probablyblue426
      @probablyblue426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you love tinkering get the ender!!

    • @eideticex
      @eideticex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a tinkering kind of guy myself. Out of the Pro and V2, the V2 is the better model for tinkering. You'll have to get comfortable with modifying C header files either way, specifically the C pre-processor. A lot of the potential of these printers just doesn't come into play until you start to tweak the configs which are written in C header files almost exclusively using the pre-processor. It's kind of like an ini file on steroids.

    • @brettvitaz9101
      @brettvitaz9101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Get an Ender if you like tinkering. Get a Prusa if you like printing.

    • @probablyblue426
      @probablyblue426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brettvitaz9101
      For me:
      Get ender if you are poor
      Get prusa if you are rich

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lightening infill and infill support are two settings that can be used on larger models to save some time depending on their shape

  • @LordHonkInc
    @LordHonkInc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always love seeing new benchmarking/calibration methods, tuning my 3D printer has become a bit of an obsession for me over the last two years xD I tend to be pretty conservative with my printer settings, but just knowing how much of a margin of error I've got is a very reassuring feeling.
    I'll test this out on my cheap all-metal heatbreak I just got; I've checked the temperatures with an external probe just to make sure heat creep isn't an issue (which thankfully it isn't, so that's a good sign) but a qualitative comparison with my stock hotend will be interesting to see.
    Also, on the matter of creating a fast profile: I highly recommend getting an ADXL345 accelerometer if you have a raspberry pi or arduino to read the values from it; using the klipper guide on resonance compensation you can figure out how much you can tune your acceleration and jerk settings, and particularly on my Ender3 the stock settings are... conservative, to put it nicely. I can run those values higher with a DD extruder than stock does with bowden, just as a forinstance.

  • @lazyman1011
    @lazyman1011 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wie immer ein super Video von Anfang bis Ende! Dankeschön!

  • @_B_K_
    @_B_K_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would love a video from you reviewing best low-budget, mid-budget and high-budget printers. I'm thinking of getting one and a lot of the videos on this topic are either outdated or are from sources I don't trust. I feel like you're a well-respected expert in this area, so it would be great to see a 2022 review video from you.

    • @urgamecshk
      @urgamecshk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aquila X2 for me!

  • @jdawg15805
    @jdawg15805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love when a CNC kitchen video drops.

  • @SynthaPak
    @SynthaPak 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it! being able to change the nozzle diameter and it change the height quickly would be a great addition, i am doing some testing with a 1mm nozzle and am having to do a lot of manual manipulation to get the blobs to come out correctly.

  • @blindside_o0
    @blindside_o0 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was just about to use your "How fast can your hotend print?" video since I finally have the scale and a Revo Six in my Prusa MK3S+ with MMU2S. Thank you for having this automated process as I too can be rather lazy

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is friggin fantastic, man. Keep up the EPIC work.

  • @sohailb108
    @sohailb108 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. I learned a lot by this video.

  • @xiwu1465
    @xiwu1465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful video! I resonant with this video a lot because I am also tuning my voron 0 towards faster printing. This gave me a lot of idea to optimize my profile even further. One thing to add though, is that Prusaslicer will limit print time of each layer under Filament - cooling, and that might slow down the print unexpectedly.

  • @conradjohnston6067
    @conradjohnston6067 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always look forward to your videos. Thank you :)

  • @davidmorse2095
    @davidmorse2095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great, thank you! I've been struggling with the manual method for too long. I have gcode macros in Octoprint to do something similar but never thought of just dispensing a blob. The takes a lot (but not all) of the tedium out of the process.
    I've also wondered about what to use for the 100% reference. You use the smallest flow rate and I've tried that. Lately though I've been cutting a length of filament and using it's weight for reference. That makes my curve fits look better at least.

  • @BayushiTawa
    @BayushiTawa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a legend...
    I am fairly new but I've just finished upgrading my Ender 5 Plus with Creality's silent board (TMCs 2208) and a Direct Hemera + Volcano as, exactly as you explain, I intend to "move a lot of filament" to print fast despiste not necessarily moving the tool that fast...
    Until now I had performed only one flow test at 1 temp and 4 speeds with no repetitions... Volcano did deliver 30 mm^3/s
    I'll make sure to check out your tool.
    Dank sehr!!!

  • @mewserino
    @mewserino 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a timely video because I just finished a hypercube and was wondering how to begin making it print faster using PrusaSlicer. Hope we get to see your Voron doing speed printing soon!

  • @Christanoid
    @Christanoid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big thanks for this tool. Constantly keep underextruding on my Voron when trying to go fast because I have been too lazy to do extrusion tests. Time to get this voron breaking speeds.

  • @josemolina7715
    @josemolina7715 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man This unlocked some ideas i was stuck on! This is the video that convinced me to support! Awesome!!!

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Glad to hear that and thank you!

  • @bepstein111
    @bepstein111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You rock dude. Thanks for the always great content.

  • @Donnerwamp
    @Donnerwamp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another thing where you can save a reasonable ammount of time are travel moves. They don't need to move smoothly as there's no filament laid down that can show wringing/ghosting and underextrusion is alao not a problem for obvious reasons. I push my Ender 5 Pro to 500mm/s at 2000mm/s² for most prints with larger elements and/or fewer travel moves per layer. If the print doesn't take longer than an hour I can push the acceleration up to 3500mm/s² without getting layer shifts, but I only did this to see the limits. Most of the time I use 2000, and on parts taking longer than 12h I put a fan at the Y motor (that's the weak point for this printer) or go down to 1500.
    A nice side effect I observed was reduced and finer stringing with PETG (my prefered filament type) since there's less time it can dropp during travel.

  • @RinksRides
    @RinksRides 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work stephan! The tool looks easy enough to use as a spreadsheet. Will update my comment once tested on my newly upgraded Marlin TronXY X5SA with cheap all metal hotend (0.8mm) and Marlin FW, (having inset issues with ABL).

  • @SwervingLemon
    @SwervingLemon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That orange Benchy was the prettiest .4 layer print I've seen, really.

  • @beybiyon
    @beybiyon ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video... Luv it man!!!

  • @yschroder
    @yschroder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That tool will be really useful. I tuned printers to print really fast before and agree with all of your observations. Using the tool will give much more confidence on what is possible.
    Side note: it works great to just set all printing speeds in prusa slicer to the travel speed and put the maximum volumetric flow into the material configuration.
    I'd like to see an investigation on the reason why printing hotter works so well. Does the temperature gradient between thermistor and inside of the nozzle increase with higher melt rate? Similar to the thermocouple inside the nozzle on your recent video.

  • @gerhardbotha7336
    @gerhardbotha7336 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. Very informative.

  • @michaelduffy9853
    @michaelduffy9853 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    +1 on the matt vs shiny results , it took me too long to descover that heat was the issue

  • @FrancoisMathieu
    @FrancoisMathieu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting, I’m going to have to watch it again.

  • @praxeological
    @praxeological 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    To help with stutter without lowering the resolution, enable Meatpack in Marlin and install the Octoprint plugin. Meatpack is a compression algorithm to push gcode faster over the slow serial connection.

  • @rowlandstraylight
    @rowlandstraylight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really helpful, thankyou

  • @gordodefuego
    @gordodefuego 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is exactly the video i needed to test my hot end for extrusion rates

  • @Cyb3rGlitch
    @Cyb3rGlitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome, would love to see this temperature/flow test with the Ender 3 + CHT nozzle.

  • @JamieHarveyJr
    @JamieHarveyJr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve also observed that a partially clogged nozzle can also show a matte finish, similar to under-temp extrusion.

  • @DiomedesDominguez
    @DiomedesDominguez ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, now I can truly setup my revo six configs for every filament I regular use.

  • @svenvogel8747
    @svenvogel8747 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am using your tool. it's great!
    choosing an individual start height would be great for individual blobs. Mine has trouble sticking to the print bed and i don't want to work around with changing my Z-Offset

  • @yathani
    @yathani 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quality content as always .. Keep up the good work 😊

  • @PoopyPops652
    @PoopyPops652 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi Stefan, I always look forward to seeing your videos. Are you building another Voron?

  • @federicok1735
    @federicok1735 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stefan! As allways very good educative and engeneering video! great work. It's almost all factors well researched, studied and put it on reality, the conclutions matches expected results... but it's allways a factor to deal with... consistencies on filament, because tolerances +- 0.05 mm it's good for normal printing, but with that extreme profiles I think tolerances more than +-0.02mm will be a terrible problem. Cheers!

  • @probablyblue426
    @probablyblue426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Trying to make my ender a bit faster

  • @thai9503
    @thai9503 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got one word for you, Genius!

  • @Optisystemizer
    @Optisystemizer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video!

  • @peterhowells822
    @peterhowells822 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent idea, Stefan. Thank you for doing this. I've been wanting to measure the volumetric flow capability of my printer following some modifications, including a CHT nozzle that I bought after watching your review. However, I'm having difficulty implementing your spreadsheet for my delta printer, which has X=0, Y=0 at the centre of the circular build plate and not at one corner as seems to be assumed by your macro. The gcode output from your spreadsheet places many of the print positions outside the build area. I'm going to manually edit the gcode output to place the stripes and blobs on the build plate. I don't know how difficult it would be for you to edit your macro to allow for different zero positions and build plate geometry, but it would be useful (please!).

  • @officer_baitlyn
    @officer_baitlyn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i just love this channel

  • @calaphos
    @calaphos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you planning to do a video on Klipper and input shaper? Can't help but notice the ringing on the ender 3 part.
    Set it up a while ago for my bed slinger and was absolutely amazed at the results.

  • @genome692002
    @genome692002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One trick i found when printing with larger line widths is to have a nozle thats not too ponty and a bit of flat. I also piled the edges of the point of to he nozle to have a bit of roundness so that it glides instead of dragging when squishing that filament. And you will get a smoother surface... And also ironing.

  • @DD-DD-DD
    @DD-DD-DD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This seems like a compensation you could easily add to Marlin. 2D table of temp vs flow. Little bit of logic to anticipate and account for heating and cooling delays.

  • @CodeMonkeX
    @CodeMonkeX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It would be fantastic if Super Slicer could integrate some more of these calibration tests into the program, like they already do with other tests. Then it can automatically use the printer and filament configurations we already have.

    • @yschroder
      @yschroder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mention this on their discord or issue tracker. I believe they will strongly consider to implement this.

  • @GetBant
    @GetBant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great, Thank you. I'll have to get my mk3 going quicker!
    I wish prusa would put out speed profiles for the mk3 and mini

  • @qpalzmsk1986
    @qpalzmsk1986 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best feature I found on Marlin firmware is linear advance. You can easily dial in a filament with one to two test pattern.

  • @guynaim470
    @guynaim470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love a video about how you made the impact test

  • @BorisH2000UK
    @BorisH2000UK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tool, many thanks Stefan. Can I use it with different nozzle sizes, e.g. 0.6mm? I could not find nozzle size parameter in the spreadsheet.

  • @DesislavLesov
    @DesislavLesov ปีที่แล้ว

    I really wished this tool was available for Delta printers. Great work!

  • @HoffmanTactical
    @HoffmanTactical 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You do great work!

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Cheers!

  • @AlexDD99
    @AlexDD99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video thank you! ❤ Is it possible to get the template for your flow chart, to evaluate the data?

  • @EDreyer
    @EDreyer ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, I am about to print mine on a CR6 SE! Recently noticed that the color of filament requires some changes. I want to fine tune my Prusa Slice profiles for my filament colors.

  • @tomwalsh6402
    @tomwalsh6402 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @TripleJAu
    @TripleJAu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A big thanks for this video 🙏👍🙏

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most welcome 😊

  • @adminexclamation4713
    @adminexclamation4713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Duet has a new way to tune your hotend while extruding filament. (Heater FeedForward M309) I have not used yet but could have a big impact for fast printing.
    Previous Hotend tuning just gets the block heated, with no cooling effect from the filament. With using M309 while tuning hotend would enable the hot end to Keep its desired temp no matter the flow.

  • @f1hotrod527
    @f1hotrod527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love all these videos that use Stephon's engineering and testing to speed up my knowledge of printing. But why has there never been a video release for the testing of the Prusament PC Blend carbon fiber filament? I am very interested in this filament after seeing the PC blend test. The carbon fiver version was shown in the regular PC blend video, so I am curious why the CF version video never comes out.

  • @Art_Of_Sound
    @Art_Of_Sound 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Deine Videos sind immer großartig! Im not sure how to get attention for the online hotend flow page...but please put an option for deltas in the gcode. I have a lot of (large) printers and for the majority of my printing, I still prefer the delta!

  • @viniciusnoyoutube
    @viniciusnoyoutube 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!

  • @gbspikyfish
    @gbspikyfish ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful tool - many thanks. I have found one oddity; which is that on my Ender-3 V2 (with Jyers firmware) the hotend is set to 0C while the last blob is still printing (as if it's reading ahead in the gcode).

  • @Bscrooker
    @Bscrooker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Stefan, quick question: You mentioned a less shiny color due to low temperatures. Printing speeds aside, is there any downside to that? I just love hoy some of my 195º PLA prints look.
    Vielen Dank for all your analytic and informative videos, I find them super interesting!

  • @wieselflinck7514
    @wieselflinck7514 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the generated gcode to find the max. extrusion also work for Klipper based printers?
    Best whishes John

  • @coreyfro
    @coreyfro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y3SSS! FLOW RATE IS KING!

  • @peterhowells822
    @peterhowells822 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've recently been wrangling with the maximum volumetric flow capability of my hotend using the spreadsheet produced by Stefan. Firstly, as I've previously commented, Stefan's current spreadsheet doesn't work with delta printers (or any other type that has X=0, Y=0 in the centre of the build plate). Secondly, having written my own spreadsheet based on Stefan's, my next problem has been that all the printed "nuggets" were the same size and almost half the weight that they should be with a range of volumetric flows from 6mm³/s to 20mm³/s. Visually, the extruder was spinning at the same rate for each setting.
    Looking further, I discovered that, for RepRapFirmware RRF2.03 and later (not for any other printer firmware!), M203 used to set maximum feed rates, has a default *minimum* feed rate of 30mm/min. This can be changed with the I parameter (that's capital i) once one knows of its existence (it's clearly shown in the Duet3D GCode dictionary!) At the default feed rate, with Stefan's method, all volumetric flows are constrained to a minimum of about 24mm³/s, which is optimistic for a V5/V6 hotend (hence my 50% extrusions)!
    I've now set M203 I6 (with my usual X, Y, Z & E maximum speeds) and the gcode runs my extruder at much more sensible speeds and produces printed nuggets with weights that are where I would expect them to be, over a range of volumetric flow rate from 2mm³/s to 18mm³/s. I've produced some lovely charts from the data and I now know how useless my hotend is!
    Thank you, Stefan, your method works well.
    Hopefully, this comment will help others using RRF.

  • @joeldriver381
    @joeldriver381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Exelent work with the 💩 piles!

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks 👍 Have been training the last 34 years for that moment.

  • @garbonzoe
    @garbonzoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a couple of things not mentioned here that I have found to make a difference in the quality at speed on bed slingers like the Ender 3 V2. I'm able to cut about 10 min off of Chep's profile when applied to a benchy with these differences. I also try to keep my flow at or below 8.5mm^3/s.
    -When over extruding on a nozzle, you can go down to one wall with little strength impact (one 0.6mm wall with a 0.4mm nozzle = two .45mm walls)
    -Lower your bottom layers to 2, you dont need that many on the bottom usually
    -0 "Extra Skin Wall", so the top and bottom lines will connect with the wall and not its own wall. I find this gives much cleaner prints and make adjustments more direct.
    -"Lines" for top and bottom instead of Zig-Zig for the same reason
    -10% Lightning Infill. Its called lightning for a reason. If you must do Cubic, at the very least do "Cubic Subdivision" and mess with the "Gradual Infill Steps"
    -3 "Skin Edge Support Layers". This makes up for the lower infill density without adding much more time
    -50mm/s for Infill, Walls, and Top and Bottom. This is where you are honing in the flow rate.
    -150mm/s travel. My ender 3 V2 can go faster but I fell it shakes it too much any faster
    -Standard Acceleration and Jerk (but you can go up to 800mm/s^2 and 10mm/s with little impact. Chep's uses 20mm/s Jerk which I think can be seen in the quality)
    -Combing off and Z-hop on instead. This cuts down travel time way down, but make sure your retractions and wipe distances are dialed in.
    -Skirt for build plate adhesion with distance set to 2mm and min length to 50. Why do you need so much purge on the skirt?
    Hope these tips help someone.

  • @sprkng
    @sprkng 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In your video about DIY high flow nozzles you were talking about die swell and created a benchmark for that. Is your new benchmark enough for max flow rate, or should one ideally do both?

  • @theenarki3114
    @theenarki3114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Besides moving to Javascript, which you already mentioned was in the plans, I would suggest the option to specify different nozzle sizes (edit, as you’ve pointed out, it doesn’t matter for this test) since I'm pretty much exclusively using 0.6mm nozzles.
    In any case, great work!

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can use the benchmark regardless of your nozzle diameter. No change on the g-code necessary.

    • @theenarki3114
      @theenarki3114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CNCKitchen I took another look, and you’re right, I misunderstood part of the benchmark. Thanks again.

  • @wilmercb
    @wilmercb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Stefan. I'm ready to buy a 3D printer and I decided going with Prusa. I know both the Mini and MK3 are great, but even though I'm new to this, the fact the MK3 is a direct extruder would be a better choice, correct? or should I save the extra money and buy the Mini? Thanks for any feedback.

  • @BrightDevelopers
    @BrightDevelopers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I was printing a benchi at 700 mm/s and the silicone sock on the hot-end melted to it and made a huge mess, but still had a really great quality benchi!

  • @thebowtieguy777
    @thebowtieguy777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    could you make a toung and groove to improve layer adhession?
    assuming 100% infill
    print .4mm lines at .2 layer height and .4 spacing between the lines
    move up 1 layer and fill in the gaps by using enough filament to print .4 with and .4 hight
    that would force mover surface area between layers

  • @Todestelzer
    @Todestelzer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you want go fast use Klipper firmware.
    But the big problem is the faster you print the more time you need to tune it in. Cooling/Print temp and min layer time for mechanical stability.

  • @Outofbox11
    @Outofbox11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny. I just got done printing similar part on my ender 3 pro with ASA for mounting afterburner on my tronxy. same color too.

  • @rcmaniac25
    @rcmaniac25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome evolution of process. One moment of curiosity is less the process and more you jumping between programming languages. Given what you've been doing, and your willingness to publish them open source, you could probably consolidate some of what you do into a library suite. You're one of the few TH-camrs/streamers who actually does any coding. Many programs didn't just materialize, they start off as a collection of components that are assembled into programs. Between reverse bed leveling, gcode bending, extrusion benchmarks, gradient infill, and the general trend of your tests, you could possibly start to make test suite systems "specify some printer params and base filament specs and profiles will be generated" and perhaps this eventually evolves to test slicers and CAD tools. It may be a bit extreme and way far thinking, but it may be a thing... I strayed too far from the point: you jump between multiple programming languages. There is much that can be done and sticking to one for an amount of time may make the work faster/less frustrating.

  • @Jabbawock1972
    @Jabbawock1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video..
    BTW..Voron recommend 40% infill and 4 Perimeter for the Voron parts, that you print

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just a sample print. Won't be used for the build!

  • @jinsun9546
    @jinsun9546 ปีที่แล้ว

    When the first layer is uneven, there will be blockage at the beginning of extrusion, which will affect the accuracy of the flow.
    It is recommended to quickly raise the Z-axis to 2mm at the beginning of the discharge, and then slowly raise the Z-axis。

  • @marcotoo777
    @marcotoo777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excelente, saludos desde mexico

  • @xxJerry19xx
    @xxJerry19xx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you want to print faster on Ender 3 and with good quality you should use klipper instead of marlin... You can print PLA 100mm/s at 215°C. Outer walls 75. An you will also not have problems with models with lot of segments and it will be smooth.

    • @urgamecshk
      @urgamecshk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whys that?

    • @xxJerry19xx
      @xxJerry19xx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@urgamecshk th-cam.com/video/MaUU8stsZPo/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/yAfalR7-Tvw/w-d-xo.html It is just better and faster. It runs on raspberry pi, not on printer mainboard. Printer mainboard MCU have just very small firmware which allow communication with Raspberry. All calculations and kinematics etc. is done by raspberry with much faster processor, so timing can be much more precise and with much more advanced kinematics and calculations. Also it is easy to configure everything, you dont need to recompile and flash firmware after each change, just save cfg file and restart printer MCU and you can edit it from web interface, because everything is running on Rpi. Linear advance is not supported by marlin on 4.2.7 creality board. But klipper pressure advance works + input shaping. And you can also use klipper with octoprint (+klipper plugin), but octoprint is slow, so you need Rpi 3 at least for octoprint + plugins to have responsive web interface. I prefer fluidd. Again it is faster. Runs perfectly smooth on Rpi2. Disadvantage is only, that you cant use printer without Rpi. You cant print from SD card like with marlin. But who is doing that ? Everyone is already using Rpi with octoprint...

  • @istvanmaasz6771
    @istvanmaasz6771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even with small changes to the flowrate the weight of the extruded material changes and you are seeking the first significant drop. But there are still smaller drops below that value. Wouldn't it be nice to adjust extrusion according to exrusion rate? Eg. when it's printing a straight infill line with high speed, the extrusion would get a 30% bump to compensate. Even with your prints I see irregular outer perimeters and even though the same wall-line should have the same speed and extrusion, this might still be interesting.

  • @321tennisplayer
    @321tennisplayer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work, but you can still make it faster. For example, prusa slicer has variable layer height. This is built into the current prusa slicer. Now use the concept for all the other parameters: variable infill, variable perimeters, variable speed depending on distance traveled, variable hot end temp. The bigger the part the greater the reduction in time for printing the part. Also, when it comes to top layers change the settings to give the finish quality that will be seen by the eye, otherwise who cares if the infill looks bad, right?

  • @Kekht
    @Kekht 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. And especially for your tool. It would be great to have it as web app. Maybe someone of your subscribers could make it (:) - code is very simple, most time UI will take. And it even could be hosted on github pages, as it does not require any server side work.