One big reason to get the OG magnum vs the swarm, is that one can load all sorts of pellets in the original. The swarm seems to have issues taking a wide variety of pellets. That can be important, when one is using different rounds for different ranges/game. Love to shoot the crossman powerflight penetrator and the hades round. Just got the red fires and rockets for it! They are very powerful at closer to medium range.
I just ordered the .22 swarm gen2, and it was all because of you. :) The next time I talk with Gamo, I will tell them I bought the gun because of you. Should be here in about a week.
People complain about the cocking, but honestly when I shoot the thing it's gets me going, and the more you cock it during use I find it to get easier, the first cock is always the heaviest, feels a lot more like a 22 which I like, don't really like the muffled cheap sound of the suppressor and shrouded barrel. I've had mine almost 5 years now and things still slaps what ever it hits with some power.
I had the Gamo swarm Magnum. I had a problem with the clip deforming some of the skirts on my pellets. I sent the gun back and went with the Gamo Magnum instead. I bought 2 .22 cal pellet pens. Plus I got more FPE/FPS with the Gamo Magnum over the Swarm
Hi Edward, yes my Magnum has about 10-15 fps more than the Swarm as well. This just needs a good muzzle brake for a solid cocking handle. Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comments. 👍
4 stars because there is no shroud on the barrel :) I have the same gun in 4.5mm and its very powerful and accurate. Brings down the rabbits within 40meters, no problem. The only "problem" is that it goes supersonic and i had to fit custom moderator because it sounds like 22lr without it.
My buddy has your gun, but with the 10X mag. Try the JSB 10.34 domed pellet, either Plane Dome or Hades, they are the same weight/dimensions and darn near shoot the same out of my 16.5fpe Benjamin titan, (like a 2 or 3 turret click between the 2 pellets). That heavier pellet should get you around 1064fps with your gun, (guessing you would be making 26fpe, and did the math from there for you). I think that is just under supersonic and should not "crack". Those pellets shoot very well, (and will have more energy down range than a lighter pellet), and I am sure you can take rabbits, (with head shots even), to 100 yards,--if you shoot a springer well,---and of course the scope is holding up. With my cheap little .177, I was able to hit chick-a-dees, (about twice the size of a humming bird) at 65 yards, and not on a bag. That pellet won't go sideways unless your barrel is getting dirty.
Nice review. I have had mine for about 3 years now and the longer screw was the first thing I did to mine. I get around the same fps from the field target as you. Oddly I get 960 fps from Crossman 14.3 grain domed (though they are not quite as accurate, but great for plinking). I also agree about the Recoil Reduction Rail. I had the scope cranked on as tight as possible without snapping or stripping out the screws and within about 1000 rounds it was tearing an oblong hole where the stop pin was located. (and yes the stop pin was screwed down into the hole and the scope mounts and screws were still VERY secure - This gun has a very sharp recoil on scopes) I just use iron sights now and for real precision at range I use my PCP. Love your vids, keep up the great informative work. And hello from northern Ontario, Canada.
The skinny barrel Magnum is a full 500mm rifled barrel. As the Swarm is only 385mm. You give up 115mm with the Swarm suppressor barrel. I own both G-Magnum and Swarm. My fave is the G.
First off, absolutely love the vids!!! Extremely detailed with every aspect of the weapon. Second, we’re do you get the trigger screw to lighten up the trigger? I truly can’t find it anywhere around here (Okla). Could I purchase one from you? Thanks so much again for the fantastic content!!! P.S. Is there a time frame on the video describing how to attach a bipod to the rifles? Thank You.
Send me an email, I can provide more information, you can find the email link on the "About" page on this TH-cam channel. I hope to have the Bi-pod package set up in the next couple of weeks and the install video as well. Thanks for watching!!
I have 2 Weihrauch HW 80, 2 Beeman R9, 1 Diana 34. Wondering why I have to spend more money to buy made in German rifle. Gamo is really good. Accuracy, power, design, etc. WOW !!!
Great video, I am in the market for a .22 magnum air rifle, I am debating between getting the Gamo magnum .22 or the Diana Panther 350 N-Tec Air Rifle .22. The things that I am looking for are Quality, accuracy, power, not too loud and not too heavy. The gun will be used for small game hunting and occasional backyard plinking. Your input is valuable and would be a decision maker for me. I would have loved to get the Gamo Swarm Magnum in .22 caliber However it is not available in Canada yet. Looking forward to hearing back from you.
I agree..I own about 20 models and I had issues with 2 of them. They have the tendency to be pellet picky. You have to find the right pellet for each rifle. Not just the model, but the rifle. Thanks for watching!
I've always heard that gamo has had quality control issues over the years, Only thing that has kept me from getting a swarm. Had some good groupings. Hope your second rifle hangs in there for ya. Great video !
Gamo just had a labor day sale on these. I didn't realize there were like 5 different magnum.22 versions and I thought I was ordering (what I have since learned) the Swarm gen 2. I am kind of disappointed
Actually, I saw the price on the original Gamo Magnum this weekend. I believe it came with the 3-9 x 40 AO scope. That was a great deal. I wouldn't be disappointed. They are extremely powerful and relatively accurate. 👍
Gun came in yesterday,absolutely happy with the purchase. The guns iron sights are accurate out the box at 20 yards it's dead on. The only thing I don't like about it is the iron sights aren't numbered or notched like other rifles it's just black dials you can feel the clicks. But it's powerful, really puts a slap on the spinning targets. Sounds like a .22lr. It's a clean trigger pull for me at least
Pellet deformation with this gun: I got lucky and found a spent JSB 15.89gr. pellet in the soft snow after I shot it. It was not deformed by the snow, and still is the same height as a new pellet. I like to retrieve pellets like that so I can see how much the rifling forms on the skirt and head. With my .177, (not this gun), I like to see about 1mm long rifling marks at the end of the skirt, (shows me it probably has a good seal), and some rifling marks on the head of the pellet, (so I know it came out of the barrel straight). THIS GUN is so POWERFUL, it blows up the skirt like a balloon, and that inflation gave me rifle marks 2mm long at full bore diameter, (In like a cone shape, out like a half sphere cup shape). Side by side with a new pellet, it looks like a fat little lady with a pleated skirt. :) I think my Gen2 model is a bit harder to cock than the Hatsan. The Hatsan never made my muscles sore. Feels good. :)
My favorite rifle...and I own 3 gamo's all with the mach1 I have the whisper fusion mach1 and the hunter extreme mach1 all in .22 ...the original magnum seems stronger than all of them.. maybe they are all mach1 nitro pistons but they gave the original magnum an extra boost perhaps?
@@kurthenze2900 magnum igt is a gas ram gun the jungle is a springer the magnum igt swarm is also a gas ram you can check gamo USA website and see for yourself if you don’t believe me
Hi I have a gamo magnum .22 air rifle every time I zero the scope on target an u fire couple shots the recoil that the air rifle giving back its hit out d zero off target do u think it's best to use a bullseye mount please let me know
Good review. I bought a Gamo Jungle Mag 22 that looks exactly like the rifle in your review , but the one I have has a spring. My Jungle is very powerful and shoots the CP 14.3s at 920 FPS producing almost 27 FP . The cocking effort is supposed to be 41 pounds but the same as you I really doubt it . Is the rifle you review a springer. I couldn’t find a mention of it being a gas ram ???
@@waleedfatahi5712 the Gamo Jungle 22 is selling for $160 at Gamo USA - it’s very powerful rifle and has good accuracy and workmanship. The rifle has to be held firmly to get good accuracy from it because it’s a light rifle compared to the power it produces. Cocking effort is over 40 /45 pounds ; it’s for hunting not plinking. Check out the Walther Parrus 22 at Arizona airguns , it’s a much better rifle at a superb price.
Have you reviewed the gamo g magnum jungle that has a green stock and spring piston. I recently found a good deal on one and was wondering what your opinion on it is.
I have not had a chance to test that. I will reach out to Gamo to see if I can get one. I personally would jump all over that for the price. .22 caliber, great looking stock, great trigger (CAT), just needs my trigger screw kit. 👍😉
I have a Gamo Swarm Maxim .22 calibrator pellet gun and want to buy a screw a screw that will let my trigger be more sensitive to pull. Right now it's pretty hard to pull. It has the stock screw in it. I understand there is a screw that can be replaced behind the trigger to do this. I went to one of the old time hardware stores and looked for the (2.5 X 10 mm) screw. They did not have this size. I know not to go to the big box stores to find this. Do you know where I can find such a screw? Let me know.....
What scope do you like? I like that mount, and would like to pick a better scope. I have a swarm magnum, the scope that came with yours seems better than what came with the swarm.
also I purchased the unshrouded version, it does have a nice rubber handle to grab for cocking may be slightly louder but as a novice shooter i can shoot 50 yards with a 3/4" group as long as I take a proper shot. My gun seems to like h&n hollow points after sighting it in. It's very accurate a strong.
This is a scope that I have been testing lately and I really like it for the price. It holds up well on the breakbarrel and has clear optics. BSA has been taken over by Gamo now and this is their new "Outlook" series of scopes which are specifically designed for the break barrels. amzn.to/2UE3iML
I wish you had reviewed is with the supplied scope. How can we get a honest review when you modified the heck out of this gun? FYI: I have the same problem cocking my Crossman breakbarrel, so I use a glove to cock my breakbarrel.
"Modified the heck out of this gun."? A scope and mount is not a gun modification. The trigger set screw is a modification, (I can't think of a more simple mod,---on anything), but you can probably pick one up at a good hardware store that carries metric fasteners. I am sorry man, but if you think this gun is highly modified, you probably think sharpening a #2 pencil is a highly modified pencil. By the way, I have one of those "slider" scope mounts too, and I bet the gun would be more accurate with the stock scope directly mounted. That mount will keep a scope from being wrecked, but the design of it is not as good as it could be. I can actually modify the heck out of mine, (machining, mill and lathe work, and about a weeks worth of my time), and make it much better. :) Doug in Michgian
Yes....honestly I just haven't got around to it. The stop pin lined up perfectly on the RRR so I just dropped it on. But I will try that in time. Thanks for the comments and I appreciate you watching. 👍
Did the first rifle, which you returned, have a metal or synthetic breech / barrel block? Please confirm material on that second rifle. And please can you review that Diana ZR mount. Thank you.
That’s interesting and unexpected because I thought a synthetic breech block was one of the ways the GMagnum achieved it’s low weight (and low cost) when first released. Indeed, it seems current versions have synthetic barrel blocks. How about your other Gamos? I’m hoping you’ll find what I’m describing amongst them. And from there you may be able to speculate when the synthetic breech / barrel block was released. Most likely it was introduced on the sly... Airgunner’sEdge put a micrometer on a ZR-mount and showed how the scope moved when poked with a finger; as compared to a one-piece mount which didn’t move. He attributed that to his loss of grouping at long range: beyond 50m and described it as a waste of $. Interestingly, he also showed the made in China label. Which seemed unexpected for a Diana product. Goodness, it may have even been made in the same factory as the Diana 350M clone you modified!
@@francisfrancis4219 I ordered some clones of the Bullseye mounts and they were horrific! I have 4 of the bullseye mounts and so far so good. The quality control on those are pretty good. I just have lost way too many scopes on those magnum break barrels. I wouldn't use them in match type shoot but then again those rifles don't qualify for that. I will have to look through more of my Gamo's to double check the breech material.
The trigger gauge measures the most resistance throughout the process. So the most resistance is at the point just prior to the sear releasing. The first stage on the CAT trigger has almost no resistance. The full weight is in the 2nd stage.
Yup.. This one seemed way sweet. If I do not get a chance to buy myself a Sig ASP20 - then this would probably be my choice for a .22 break barrel. Gamo airrifles are sold at many places over here in Finland. The magazine break barrel do seem also quite nice - but since still need to break that barrel between shots, then a single shot rifle is okay by me.
I like to use the rubber mallet test when I adjust a trigger. Each time you adjust the trigger, cock it, point it down range then tap the butt of the gun a few times. If it goes off, you went too far. Like you said, on that powerful of a gun, it would probably be better to be a little heavier... And put some lock tight on the screw...
I couldn't agree more...that gas piston is so large it puts a large amount of stress on the sear. I would stay on the heavier side, just a fraction under 3lbs is safe and functional. Thanks for watching 👍
How would you rate this against a Diana 350 ntec .22? I have a 350 looking at getting .30 hatsan or .25 cal but curious bout this gun 1/2 price of my Diana. Great vids btw
It is powerful but it is also a 50 lbs cocking effort. I like my tuned Ruger Air Magnum much better, my most recent review. Almost 20 lbs less cocking effort and really close in power. Plus much better accuracy. The .30 135 Hatsan is a lot of fun. It is so enjoyable being able to shoot a 50 gr Pellet from a break barrel rifle. If I was to pick a Gamo Magnum I would go with the Swarm.👍
Really enjoy watching your videos. Ive been shooting guns my whole life and lots and lots of hunting. I’ve recently been looking to get a all around good pellet rifle and I’m going back and forth with all the crazy options out there for 350$ and under. I own a big ranch and I’m wanting to use one for squirrels and plinking. Any suggestions would be awesome. Thanks again for all the great videos.
Hi Beau..I would look at the .22 caliber Sig Sauer ASP20. Wait for a sale but you will need to add a scope to that. This is one of the best break barrels out there for the $. It is a complete package. Plenty of power and a great trigger as well. Thanks for watching and I appreciate your comments.
Airgun Detectives thanks for the input. I was really leaning towards the sig just wasn’t sure. It was either that or the Gamo magnum. Do you think I’ll need the bullseye zr with this one.
@@rockin_r5_outdoors no you won't need the bullseye scope mount. It does not have a violent recoil. I would suggest you do get a durable scope. UTG/Leapers 30 mm with the "TS" (True Strength) foundation. They have a lifetime warranty and they hold up on the reverse recoil. You can find one for around $100, including the scope rings. Then you add bipods 😉 and you have a complete package👍
what scope do u have on it , im looking for some scopes that are magnum springer proof and i do own the diana bullseye mount, any thoughts on some good scopes
BSA 30mm side focus mildot Tactical. No sure if they still offer that. Leapers UTG make some inexpensive but durable scopes. Look for the "TS" True Strength base and they should hold up well.
As far as break barrels, it is one of the top as far as power, but you also have to earn it with a 50lbs plus cocking effort. You are not going to shoot that all day. I would chose the Sig ASP20 1st and the tuned Ruger before that Gamo. I also will be featuring a .25 caliber XS28 later this summer. Many choices out there. Make sure you watch all my reviews. The Hatsan Snipers are another great choice. I think I would put them ahead as well. Thanks for watching!!
@@chrisalarcon7013 most all of them can be tuned. Just have to find the seals. Mike at Flying Dragon Air Rifles most likely could tune that for you but I would call him.
Hi Terry..those are the standard FTT dome pellets. 14.66 grain 5.5mm. I tried numerous pellets and they seem to be one of the better ones. I have noticed over the years, each rifle, not just a model, but the specific rifle, likes it's own pellet. The trick is finding the right one👍
@@AirgunDetectives You are right. My gamo Swarm Fushion 10x Gen 2 doesn't like that pellet . The gun is new and I'm still testing but so far it likes RWS 22 cal wadcutters and H&N baracuda green is a possible. Have not tested JSB yet and to my disappointment it doesn't like Crosman hollow points. Thanks again for the break barrel reviews. I'm not a pcp snob and do shoot them but today it's all about high end pcp's so your reviews are refreshing and good.
They actually come out of the box (Hatsan) with pretty lousy piston seals. Once they are tuned, including the trigger, they are pretty awesome rifles. Gamo seems to be upping their game. Send me an email and tell me your budget and I would be happy to recommend something. info@airgundetectives.com
I think between the two? Get this. I've fired both and own the Hatsan, it kicks like a mule and you'll be pulling shots and ripping through scopes with it. Hatsan feels like better overall quality but I've had Gamos last a long time even though they feel plasticky and cheap. Just today I was shooting one of these and was nailing squirrels with open sights at 80 yards, no holdover. Of course there are better options out there. Benjamin NP xl is good, For a good bit more there is the Sig ASP 20 which is an AMAZING rifle and I can't wait to own one. Then there are the tried and true RWS/Diana in that higher price range as well.
They are both good rifles. The Hatsan is a little rough out of the box and their standard piston seals are no very good. They also take a bit of work to improve the trigger. The Gamo on the other hand, the trigger can be greatly improved with my $10 trigger kit. You can't go wrong with either rifle. There is always room for both in any collection.👍😉
@@AirgunDetectives may I ask why? Just the feel or is it accuracy and power as well? From what I understand it's a little less powered and has less hold sensitive accuracy, which is normal for a gun with a smaller piston. My point being that I have fired both, don't own either but personally preferred the Magnum for its sheer power. Not to mention, if one has a little experience with proper guns the recoil is not all that much at all, and hold sensitivity can be eliminated by using measures to stabilise the barrel through the shot cycle. Would love to understand what are the advantages of the ASP 20, besides the German fit and finish, which can be a great point to argue when you consider something like a crossman or a hatsan, that are not the best finished products, the newer line of gamo rifles are really rather well finished, especially since they partnered with BSA.
@@IndianArma the Gamo has about 3 more FPE but with that you have an additional 15 lbs of cocking effort. The Sig only has a 35 lb cocking effort which you could shoot all day. The Gamo is 50 lbs plus effort. The Sig has a better trigger, even though with my screw the CAT trigger is not bad. The Sig is not pellet picky and is much more accurate. The Sig has a smoother action with much tighter tolerances and provides a medium recoil. The Gamo has a harsher more violent recoil. Don't get me wrong I like the Gamo but the Sig is the Mercedes where the Gamo is the Toyota. If you put numerous rounds through both the choice is clear. But, I look forward to testing the new Gamo Swarm Magnum soon! I think there is room for both rifles in anyone's collection.
@@AirgunDetectives I understand, also, it's great to get someone's perspective with as much experience as you. On a slightly unrelated note, I see that you are very consistent in replying to your viewers, great content and brilliant dedication, please know that your dedication does not go unnoticed. Finally, how is the new magnum swarm different from the previous version? Gen- 2 mags that enable you to aim through the open sights or is it more than that?
@@IndianArma I have only seen it and have not shot it yet. The obvious changes is the magazines lay flat on this model and it does come with open sights. I look forward to doing a complete review on one in the future. I appreciate your comments and thanks again for tuning in!
Where i live, surpressors are illegal, and i don't need a mag in a springer. I kinda like mine, it's precise, but hard to shoot. It's a nice gun to learn the proper technique. i don't like the trigger (i'm used to Weihrauch, i don't have a trigger gauge, but one guy tested it at 176gram [ 6,208 ounces or 0,388 pound] from factory, they are all different, because someone adjusts them by hand, there is no reason to mess with that, they know, what thei're doing)) I like it's low weight, and it's overall sturdyness, the gas piston should last long, i don't like the safety in the trigger guard. It's not to hard to cock the gun, i can do it all day long, and i weight about 58 kilos
El rifle es uña bestia de potencia , pero hay que sujetarlo bien firme sino no es preciso. Tengo uno con resorte de metal muy bien construido, la culata es muy cómoda, yo le rellené una cavidad hueca que tiene con trapos de algodón aceitados bien empaquetados dentro de la cavidad , y esto elimina mucha vibración. El rifle es muy sólido , preciso y potente - muy buen precio- lo recomiendo.
@@AirgunDetectives That is light for a magnum. Had a stoeger X50 before was stronger than ruger. I should have kept it. I have too many now. I used to be in good shape but then the 30s ended. Talk about cocking effort whoa must have been 60 lbs easy.It kicked like you wouldnt believe too.But I could shoot it. My rugar does about 900fps with crosman 14.3s that stoeger X50 was prob 950 on up.
If you did like diet soda coke is the most expensive. My uncle was diabetic and he got me hooked on it and I literally am like an alcoholic with diet coke. They must be putting something in it like back in the day when it had cocaine I believe. I almost cry when you shoot a full diet coke can!!!!
Oh I would not use that rubberized scope mount just gives it more time to shake. Just use good solid block if you need scope. My problem is my son comes over and 3 minutes later the scope is off. The SOB no matter how much time I spent setting up. Steven Archer tells the best wway to zero a scope in about 3 shots. u probably saw it.
I enjoy your reviews and appreciate them. That being said, seems like a review should include the items that came with the gun, not a different mount and scope. Also, even though there is no plastic barrel shroud, you are not cocking the gun with the actual barrel, but the metal tubing that encloses the barrel. It would be impossible to cock it with the actual barrel which is only .177 inches or slightly larger in diameter. It would be terrible if the tube wasn't there. Hard to even imagine all these guns with only the actual barrel...they'd sure look scrawny!
Actually, on this model there is no shroud. That is the actual steel barrel! It can be a bit uncomfortable after shooting many rounds. Thanks for watching :)
To tell you the truth I've had lots of those suppressor pellet guns and they don't seem to do no difference I don't know why they waste their time and money with those ugly ass things
One big reason to get the OG magnum vs the swarm, is that one can load all sorts of pellets in the original. The swarm seems to have issues taking a wide variety of pellets. That can be important, when one is using different rounds for different ranges/game.
Love to shoot the crossman powerflight penetrator and the hades round. Just got the red fires and rockets for it! They are very powerful at closer to medium range.
Just got one for a great price directly from Gamo. Thanks for the review
Enjoy 😉
I just ordered the .22 swarm gen2, and it was all because of you. :)
The next time I talk with Gamo, I will tell them I bought the gun because of you.
Should be here in about a week.
People complain about the cocking, but honestly when I shoot the thing it's gets me going, and the more you cock it during use I find it to get easier, the first cock is always the heaviest, feels a lot more like a 22 which I like, don't really like the muffled cheap sound of the suppressor and shrouded barrel. I've had mine almost 5 years now and things still slaps what ever it hits with some power.
I had the Gamo swarm Magnum. I had a problem with the clip deforming some of the skirts on my pellets. I sent the gun back and went with the Gamo Magnum instead. I bought 2 .22 cal pellet pens. Plus I got more FPE/FPS with the Gamo Magnum over the Swarm
Hi Edward, yes my Magnum has about 10-15 fps more than the Swarm as well. This just needs a good muzzle brake for a solid cocking handle. Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comments. 👍
@@AirgunDetectives ... and a decent sound moderator because this sucker is loud.
4 stars because there is no shroud on the barrel :) I have the same gun in 4.5mm and its very powerful and accurate. Brings down the rabbits within 40meters, no problem. The only "problem" is that it goes supersonic and i had to fit custom moderator because it sounds like 22lr without it.
My buddy has your gun, but with the 10X mag. Try the JSB 10.34 domed pellet, either Plane Dome or Hades, they are the same weight/dimensions and darn near shoot the same out of my 16.5fpe Benjamin titan, (like a 2 or 3 turret click between the 2 pellets). That heavier pellet should get you around 1064fps with your gun, (guessing you would be making 26fpe, and did the math from there for you). I think that is just under supersonic and should not "crack". Those pellets shoot very well, (and will have more energy down range than a lighter pellet), and I am sure you can take rabbits, (with head shots even), to 100 yards,--if you shoot a springer well,---and of course the scope is holding up. With my cheap little .177, I was able to hit chick-a-dees, (about twice the size of a humming bird) at 65 yards, and not on a bag. That pellet won't go sideways unless your barrel is getting dirty.
@@EarthSurferUSA thanx for the tip.
Nice review. I have had mine for about 3 years now and the longer screw was the first thing I did to mine. I get around the same fps from the field target as you. Oddly I get 960 fps from Crossman 14.3 grain domed (though they are not quite as accurate, but great for plinking). I also agree about the Recoil Reduction Rail. I had the scope cranked on as tight as possible without snapping or stripping out the screws and within about 1000 rounds it was tearing an oblong hole where the stop pin was located. (and yes the stop pin was screwed down into the hole and the scope mounts and screws were still VERY secure - This gun has a very sharp recoil on scopes) I just use iron sights now and for real precision at range I use my PCP. Love your vids, keep up the great informative work. And hello from northern Ontario, Canada.
I appreciate you watching!!
The skinny barrel Magnum is a full 500mm rifled barrel.
As the Swarm is only 385mm.
You give up 115mm with the Swarm suppressor barrel.
I own both G-Magnum and Swarm.
My fave is the G.
First off, absolutely love the vids!!! Extremely detailed with every aspect of the weapon. Second, we’re do you get the trigger screw to lighten up the trigger? I truly can’t find it anywhere around here (Okla). Could I purchase one from you? Thanks so much again for the fantastic content!!!
P.S. Is there a time frame on the video describing how to attach a bipod to the rifles? Thank You.
Send me an email, I can provide more information, you can find the email link on the "About" page on this TH-cam channel. I hope to have the Bi-pod package set up in the next couple of weeks and the install video as well. Thanks for watching!!
I got a whole bag of them for a few bucks on Amazon about 3 years ago.
M2.5x8mm can get it either from Ebay or Amazon
I have 2 Weihrauch HW 80, 2 Beeman R9, 1 Diana 34.
Wondering why I have to spend more money to buy made in German rifle.
Gamo is really good. Accuracy, power, design, etc. WOW !!!
Great video, I am in the market for a .22 magnum air rifle, I am debating between getting the Gamo magnum .22 or the Diana Panther 350 N-Tec Air Rifle .22.
The things that I am looking for are
Quality, accuracy, power, not too loud and not too heavy.
The gun will be used for small game hunting and occasional backyard plinking.
Your input is valuable and would be a decision maker for me.
I would have loved to get the Gamo Swarm Magnum in .22 caliber However it is not available in Canada yet.
Looking forward to hearing back from you.
Check out my upcoming review on Friday. It will be right in your wheelhouse 😉👍
Thanks for your quick reply. Will do
Good review...I generally have a low opinion of Gamo. They tend to group poorly but you seem to get good results.
I agree..I own about 20 models and I had issues with 2 of them. They have the tendency to be pellet picky. You have to find the right pellet for each rifle. Not just the model, but the rifle. Thanks for watching!
So how far behind in power is this compared to the new swarm magnums
I've always heard that gamo has had quality control issues over the years, Only thing that has kept me from getting a swarm. Had some good groupings. Hope your second rifle hangs in there for ya. Great video !
The good thing is Gamo provides a 5 year warranty on the Magnums. Thanks for the feedback 😊
yeah, 5 years is a good warranty for sure!
Gamo just had a labor day sale on these. I didn't realize there were like 5 different magnum.22 versions and I thought I was ordering (what I have since learned) the Swarm gen 2. I am kind of disappointed
Actually, I saw the price on the original Gamo Magnum this weekend. I believe it came with the 3-9 x 40 AO scope. That was a great deal. I wouldn't be disappointed. They are extremely powerful and relatively accurate. 👍
I just ordered one. For $125+ off what the swarm is. I'll take single shot, less things to break or wear out.
Gun came in yesterday,absolutely happy with the purchase. The guns iron sights are accurate out the box at 20 yards it's dead on. The only thing I don't like about it is the iron sights aren't numbered or notched like other rifles it's just black dials you can feel the clicks. But it's powerful, really puts a slap on the spinning targets. Sounds like a .22lr. It's a clean trigger pull for me at least
Please let me know I’m getting a new rail and want to know the size
11mm Dovetail
Pellet deformation with this gun: I got lucky and found a spent JSB 15.89gr. pellet in the soft snow after I shot it. It was not deformed by the snow, and still is the same height as a new pellet. I like to retrieve pellets like that so I can see how much the rifling forms on the skirt and head. With my .177, (not this gun), I like to see about 1mm long rifling marks at the end of the skirt, (shows me it probably has a good seal), and some rifling marks on the head of the pellet, (so I know it came out of the barrel straight). THIS GUN is so POWERFUL, it blows up the skirt like a balloon, and that inflation gave me rifle marks 2mm long at full bore diameter, (In like a cone shape, out like a half sphere cup shape). Side by side with a new pellet, it looks like a fat little lady with a pleated skirt. :) I think my Gen2 model is a bit harder to cock than the Hatsan. The Hatsan never made my muscles sore. Feels good. :)
My favorite rifle...and I own 3 gamo's all with the mach1 I have the whisper fusion mach1 and the hunter extreme mach1 all in .22 ...the original magnum seems stronger than all of them.. maybe they are all mach1 nitro pistons but they gave the original magnum an extra boost perhaps?
Sir which is most fowerfull gamo g mugnum 1250 igt mach1 or gamo g mugnum 1250 jungle
They both have the same power plant so they are equal in power
@@zome53 jungle is a springer this one is a gas piston
@@waleedfatahi5712
No, they're both springers.
The Swarm is gas.
@@kurthenze2900 magnum igt is a gas ram gun the jungle is a springer the magnum igt swarm is also a gas ram you can check gamo USA website and see for yourself if you don’t believe me
@@waleedfatahi5712
Thanks, ur right
How much louder is this from the gamo swarm gen2?
Is this the same as the gamo gr magnum that is green?
Hi I have a gamo magnum .22 air rifle every time I zero the scope on target an u fire couple shots the recoil that the air rifle giving back its hit out d zero off target do u think it's best to use a bullseye mount please let me know
Wow.... Great job..... you do excellent reviews!!
Thank you for watching!! 😉👍
Good review. I bought a Gamo Jungle Mag 22 that looks exactly like the rifle in your review , but the one I have has a spring. My Jungle is very powerful and shoots the CP 14.3s at 920 FPS producing almost 27 FP . The cocking effort is supposed to be 41 pounds but the same as you I really doubt it . Is the rifle you review a springer. I couldn’t find a mention of it being a gas ram ???
How is it I found a deal on one but can’t find any reviews on them
@@waleedfatahi5712 the Gamo Jungle 22 is selling for $160 at Gamo USA - it’s very powerful rifle and has good accuracy and workmanship. The rifle has to be held firmly to get good accuracy from it because it’s a light rifle compared to the power it produces. Cocking effort is over 40 /45 pounds ; it’s for hunting not plinking. Check out the Walther Parrus 22 at Arizona airguns , it’s a much better rifle at a superb price.
I also have new one gr jungle only shoots 10-12 pellets and its giving 33 joules 18.13 grains -780 fps can u tells why its giving low power?
@@pankajgupta4107 780 fps with 18.3 pellets is not low power.
Have you reviewed the gamo g magnum jungle that has a green stock and spring piston. I recently found a good deal on one and was wondering what your opinion on it is.
I have not had a chance to test that. I will reach out to Gamo to see if I can get one. I personally would jump all over that for the price. .22 caliber, great looking stock, great trigger (CAT), just needs my trigger screw kit. 👍😉
@@AirgunDetectives thank you very much and can you do a side by side comparison with the g magnum, swarm, and jungle and see how they hold up
I have a Gamo Swarm Maxim .22 calibrator pellet gun and want to buy a screw a screw that will let my trigger be more sensitive to pull.
Right now it's pretty hard to pull. It has the stock screw in it.
I understand there is a screw that can be replaced behind the trigger to do this.
I went to one of the old time hardware stores and looked for the (2.5 X 10 mm) screw. They did not have this size. I know not to go to the big box stores to find this.
Do you know where I can find such a screw?
Let me know.....
What scope do you like? I like that mount, and would like to pick a better scope. I have a swarm magnum, the scope that came with yours seems better than what came with the swarm.
also I purchased the unshrouded version, it does have a nice rubber handle to grab for cocking may be slightly louder but as a novice shooter i can shoot 50 yards with a 3/4" group as long as I take a proper shot. My gun seems to like h&n hollow points after sighting it in. It's very accurate a strong.
This is a scope that I have been testing lately and I really like it for the price. It holds up well on the breakbarrel and has clear optics. BSA has been taken over by Gamo now and this is their new "Outlook" series of scopes which are specifically designed for the break barrels. amzn.to/2UE3iML
I wish you had reviewed is with the supplied scope. How can we get a honest review when you modified the heck out of this gun? FYI: I have the same problem cocking my Crossman breakbarrel, so I use a glove to cock my breakbarrel.
"Modified the heck out of this gun."? A scope and mount is not a gun modification. The trigger set screw is a modification, (I can't think of a more simple mod,---on anything), but you can probably pick one up at a good hardware store that carries metric fasteners. I am sorry man, but if you think this gun is highly modified, you probably think sharpening a #2 pencil is a highly modified pencil. By the way, I have one of those "slider" scope mounts too, and I bet the gun would be more accurate with the stock scope directly mounted. That mount will keep a scope from being wrecked, but the design of it is not as good as it could be. I can actually modify the heck out of mine, (machining, mill and lathe work, and about a weeks worth of my time), and make it much better. :)
Doug in Michgian
Hi,
Does the magnum have the exact same air cylinder size as the swarm magnum? I really wish you could show them side by side.
Yes...identical. The only difference is the magazine. 👍
@@AirgunDetectives
Cool, thanks!
Have you thought about removing the RRR and just have the Bullseye mount on it only
Yes....honestly I just haven't got around to it. The stop pin lined up perfectly on the RRR so I just dropped it on. But I will try that in time. Thanks for the comments and I appreciate you watching. 👍
Good video. Very informative and to the point. Keep up the good work. Thumbs up!
Thanks for watching and I appreciate your feedback!👍
@@AirgunDetectives You're welcome.
Did the first rifle, which you returned, have a metal or synthetic breech / barrel block? Please confirm material on that second rifle. And please can you review that Diana ZR mount. Thank you.
They both had a metal breech. I ordered a new ZR mount. I would be happy to do a video on that. Thanks for watching 👍
That’s interesting and unexpected because I thought a synthetic breech block was one of the ways the GMagnum achieved it’s low weight (and low cost) when first released. Indeed, it seems current versions have synthetic barrel blocks. How about your other Gamos? I’m hoping you’ll find what I’m describing amongst them. And from there you may be able to speculate when the synthetic breech / barrel block was released. Most likely it was introduced on the sly... Airgunner’sEdge put a micrometer on a ZR-mount and showed how the scope moved when poked with a finger; as compared to a one-piece mount which didn’t move. He attributed that to his loss of grouping at long range: beyond 50m and described it as a waste of $. Interestingly, he also showed the made in China label. Which seemed unexpected for a Diana product. Goodness, it may have even been made in the same factory as the Diana 350M clone you modified!
@@francisfrancis4219 I ordered some clones of the Bullseye mounts and they were horrific! I have 4 of the bullseye mounts and so far so good. The quality control on those are pretty good. I just have lost way too many scopes on those magnum break barrels. I wouldn't use them in match type shoot but then again those rifles don't qualify for that. I will have to look through more of my Gamo's to double check the breech material.
I noticed it took a little over 1 lb of pull to get to the 2nd stage. I wonder what the second stage pull alone would be. 1 lb?
The trigger gauge measures the most resistance throughout the process. So the most resistance is at the point just prior to the sear releasing. The first stage on the CAT trigger has almost no resistance. The full weight is in the 2nd stage.
Yup.. This one seemed way sweet.
If I do not get a chance to buy myself a Sig ASP20 - then this would probably be my choice for a .22 break barrel. Gamo airrifles are sold at many places over here in Finland.
The magazine break barrel do seem also quite nice - but since still need to break that barrel between shots, then a single shot rifle is okay by me.
I don't think you can go wrong either way. They are all great products!👍
I like to use the rubber mallet test when I adjust a trigger. Each time you adjust the trigger, cock it, point it down range then tap the butt of the gun a few times. If it goes off, you went too far. Like you said, on that powerful of a gun, it would probably be better to be a little heavier... And put some lock tight on the screw...
I couldn't agree more...that gas piston is so large it puts a large amount of stress on the sear. I would stay on the heavier side, just a fraction under 3lbs is safe and functional. Thanks for watching 👍
Yes..that is an excellent method for testing for a hair trigger! Thanks for watching 👍
Have you tried shooting a 18gr or a higher grain pellet? If so what was fps and fpe
Watch my Gamo Magnum Swarm vs the Hatsan. 135 30 cal review. I test the 18 gr for velocity however they are not very accurate in the Gamo.
How would you rate this against a Diana 350 ntec .22? I have a 350 looking at getting .30 hatsan or .25 cal but curious bout this gun 1/2 price of my Diana. Great vids btw
It is powerful but it is also a 50 lbs cocking effort. I like my tuned Ruger Air Magnum much better, my most recent review. Almost 20 lbs less cocking effort and really close in power. Plus much better accuracy. The .30 135 Hatsan is a lot of fun. It is so enjoyable being able to shoot a 50 gr Pellet from a break barrel rifle. If I was to pick a Gamo Magnum I would go with the Swarm.👍
Please include the Soda Can " test " with each gun as I believe it could be quite interesting to see what each gun does to the same object. M
Really enjoy watching your videos. Ive been shooting guns my whole life and lots and lots of hunting. I’ve recently been looking to get a all around good pellet rifle and I’m going back and forth with all the crazy options out there for 350$ and under. I own a big ranch and I’m wanting to use one for squirrels and plinking. Any suggestions would be awesome. Thanks again for all the great videos.
Hi Beau..I would look at the .22 caliber Sig Sauer ASP20. Wait for a sale but you will need to add a scope to that. This is one of the best break barrels out there for the $. It is a complete package. Plenty of power and a great trigger as well. Thanks for watching and I appreciate your comments.
Airgun Detectives thanks for the input. I was really leaning towards the sig just wasn’t sure. It was either that or the Gamo magnum.
Do you think I’ll need the bullseye zr with this one.
@@rockin_r5_outdoors no you won't need the bullseye scope mount. It does not have a violent recoil. I would suggest you do get a durable scope. UTG/Leapers 30 mm with the "TS" (True Strength) foundation. They have a lifetime warranty and they hold up on the reverse recoil. You can find one for around $100, including the scope rings. Then you add bipods 😉 and you have a complete package👍
what scope do u have on it , im looking for some scopes that are magnum springer proof and i do own the diana bullseye mount, any thoughts on some good scopes
BSA 30mm side focus mildot Tactical. No sure if they still offer that. Leapers UTG make some inexpensive but durable scopes. Look for the "TS" True Strength base and they should hold up well.
What’s the size of the rail ?
Is the power in this GAMO magnum comparable to any of the other air rifles that you own? If so which ones? Thanks
As far as break barrels, it is one of the top as far as power, but you also have to earn it with a 50lbs plus cocking effort. You are not going to shoot that all day. I would chose the Sig ASP20 1st and the tuned Ruger before that Gamo. I also will be featuring a .25 caliber XS28 later this summer. Many choices out there. Make sure you watch all my reviews. The Hatsan Snipers are another great choice. I think I would put them ahead as well. Thanks for watching!!
Thanks for the reply I have the Ruger impact Max .22 can that be tuned? Thanks for any reply
@@chrisalarcon7013 watch my review on it!! I tuned that one. Look at the performance 👍
@@chrisalarcon7013 most all of them can be tuned. Just have to find the seals. Mike at Flying Dragon Air Rifles most likely could tune that for you but I would call him.
Wow thanks alot! Ur awesome great vids btw i subscribed ^_^
Always enjoy your very good reviews. Where you using thr 5.5mm head size?
Hi Terry..those are the standard FTT dome pellets. 14.66 grain 5.5mm. I tried numerous pellets and they seem to be one of the better ones. I have noticed over the years, each rifle, not just a model, but the specific rifle, likes it's own pellet. The trick is finding the right one👍
@@AirgunDetectives You are right. My gamo Swarm Fushion 10x Gen 2 doesn't like that pellet . The gun is new and I'm still testing but so far it likes RWS 22 cal wadcutters and H&N baracuda green is a possible. Have not tested JSB yet and to my disappointment it doesn't like Crosman hollow points. Thanks again for the break barrel reviews. I'm not a pcp snob and do shoot them but today it's all about high end pcp's so your reviews are refreshing and good.
Would you recommend this or hatsan 125 25 cal. I'm worried about the quality control of hatsan cuz lots of ppl say it dies fast or piston seal is weak
They actually come out of the box (Hatsan) with pretty lousy piston seals. Once they are tuned, including the trigger, they are pretty awesome rifles. Gamo seems to be upping their game. Send me an email and tell me your budget and I would be happy to recommend something. info@airgundetectives.com
I think between the two? Get this. I've fired both and own the Hatsan, it kicks like a mule and you'll be pulling shots and ripping through scopes with it. Hatsan feels like better overall quality but I've had Gamos last a long time even though they feel plasticky and cheap. Just today I was shooting one of these and was nailing squirrels with open sights at 80 yards, no holdover. Of course there are better options out there. Benjamin NP xl is good, For a good bit more there is the Sig ASP 20 which is an AMAZING rifle and I can't wait to own one. Then there are the tried and true RWS/Diana in that higher price range as well.
I purchased gamo gr jungle recently but it gives 780 fps (33 joules)on 18.13 grain pellets , can u tells why its shoot in low power ,waiting ur reply
@pankajgupta4107 If it is a European version. It has significantly less power than the US version.
@@AirgunDetectivesthanks for reply,but how can we know it is version difference?
I want to buy FFP SCOPE ON GAMO GR ,is it suitable or not pls gives ur suggestion which scope is best for magnum springer
Wich one is better or you recomend between gamo g magnum or hatsan 125?
They are both good rifles. The Hatsan is a little rough out of the box and their standard piston seals are no very good. They also take a bit of work to improve the trigger. The Gamo on the other hand, the trigger can be greatly improved with my $10 trigger kit. You can't go wrong with either rifle. There is always room for both in any collection.👍😉
@@AirgunDetectives thanks for the advice!! I think i will go with hatsan
Which gun do you like better, the Swarm Magnum, or the Sig Sauer ASP 20? I need a powerful hunting break barrel. Can't make up my mind...
The Sig hands down!! That is one of the best Breakbarrel I have in my collection. No contest!!
@@AirgunDetectives may I ask why? Just the feel or is it accuracy and power as well? From what I understand it's a little less powered and has less hold sensitive accuracy, which is normal for a gun with a smaller piston. My point being that I have fired both, don't own either but personally preferred the Magnum for its sheer power. Not to mention, if one has a little experience with proper guns the recoil is not all that much at all, and hold sensitivity can be eliminated by using measures to stabilise the barrel through the shot cycle. Would love to understand what are the advantages of the ASP 20, besides the German fit and finish, which can be a great point to argue when you consider something like a crossman or a hatsan, that are not the best finished products, the newer line of gamo rifles are really rather well finished, especially since they partnered with BSA.
@@IndianArma the Gamo has about 3 more FPE but with that you have an additional 15 lbs of cocking effort. The Sig only has a 35 lb cocking effort which you could shoot all day. The Gamo is 50 lbs plus effort. The Sig has a better trigger, even though with my screw the CAT trigger is not bad. The Sig is not pellet picky and is much more accurate. The Sig has a smoother action with much tighter tolerances and provides a medium recoil. The Gamo has a harsher more violent recoil. Don't get me wrong I like the Gamo but the Sig is the Mercedes where the Gamo is the Toyota. If you put numerous rounds through both the choice is clear. But, I look forward to testing the new Gamo Swarm Magnum soon! I think there is room for both rifles in anyone's collection.
@@AirgunDetectives I understand, also, it's great to get someone's perspective with as much experience as you. On a slightly unrelated note, I see that you are very consistent in replying to your viewers, great content and brilliant dedication, please know that your dedication does not go unnoticed.
Finally, how is the new magnum swarm different from the previous version? Gen- 2 mags that enable you to aim through the open sights or is it more than that?
@@IndianArma I have only seen it and have not shot it yet. The obvious changes is the magazines lay flat on this model and it does come with open sights. I look forward to doing a complete review on one in the future. I appreciate your comments and thanks again for tuning in!
Where i live, surpressors are illegal, and i don't need a mag in a springer. I kinda like mine, it's precise, but hard to shoot. It's a nice gun to learn the proper technique. i don't like the trigger (i'm used to Weihrauch, i don't have a trigger gauge, but one guy tested it at 176gram [ 6,208 ounces or 0,388 pound] from factory, they are all different, because someone adjusts them by hand, there is no reason to mess with that, they know, what thei're doing)) I like it's low weight, and it's overall sturdyness, the gas piston should last long, i don't like the safety in the trigger guard. It's not to hard to cock the gun, i can do it all day long, and i weight about 58 kilos
Muy bueno ese rifle. Me encantan los gamo. Yo tengo el coyote black whisper. Saludos desde Sevilla, España
El rifle es uña bestia de potencia , pero hay que sujetarlo bien firme sino no es preciso. Tengo uno con resorte de metal muy bien construido, la culata es muy cómoda, yo le rellené una cavidad hueca que tiene con trapos de algodón aceitados bien empaquetados dentro de la cavidad , y esto elimina mucha vibración. El rifle es muy sólido , preciso y potente - muy buen precio- lo recomiendo.
Does that gamo magnum weigh a ton???
7 lbs. Actually kinda light.😉
@@AirgunDetectives That is light for a magnum. Had a stoeger X50 before was stronger than ruger. I should have kept it. I have too many now. I used to be in good shape but then the 30s ended. Talk about cocking effort whoa must have been 60 lbs easy.It kicked like you wouldnt believe too.But I could shoot it. My rugar does about 900fps with crosman 14.3s that stoeger X50 was prob 950 on up.
Was 10 lb gun too!!!
w/o scope
That scope is like a stoeger scope where you just turns knobs no caps.
Swarm is so ugly that I would never pick it but I respect your opinion.
Sorry, I meant a little bigger than .22 actual barrel diamenter.
Box said 1300fps but your test was 920’s
Swarm version is not good for me. Cos it will not last long. Swarm mechanism got damage in 1 year.
If you did like diet soda coke is the most expensive. My uncle was diabetic and he got me hooked on it and I literally am like an alcoholic with diet coke. They must be putting something in it like back in the day when it had cocaine I believe. I almost cry when you shoot a full diet coke can!!!!
Oh I would not use that rubberized scope mount just gives it more time to shake. Just use good solid block if you need scope. My problem is my son comes over and 3 minutes later the scope is off. The SOB no matter how much time I spent setting up. Steven Archer tells the best wway to zero a scope in about 3 shots. u probably saw it.
I enjoy your reviews and appreciate them. That being said, seems like a review should include the items that came with the gun, not a different mount and scope. Also, even though there is no plastic barrel shroud, you are not cocking the gun with the actual barrel, but the metal tubing that encloses the barrel. It would be impossible to cock it with the actual barrel which is only .177 inches or slightly larger in diameter. It would be terrible if the tube wasn't there. Hard to even imagine all these guns with only the actual barrel...they'd sure look scrawny!
Actually, on this model there is no shroud. That is the actual steel barrel! It can be a bit uncomfortable after shooting many rounds. Thanks for watching :)
You said it has recoil? Are you being serious?
The 10mm is too long go with the 8mm screw
Dude! How many girlfriends do you have? :)
To tell you the truth I've had lots of those suppressor pellet guns and they don't seem to do no difference I don't know why they waste their time and money with those ugly ass things
There is not a big difference but they do make a nice cocking handle 😉
Love the vids, but you said “actually” over a hundred times. That’s a bit annoying.
No dont shoot that diet coke. Thats 75 cents