Thank you, Ben for bringing us break barrel reviews in this PCP dominate air gun community. I shoot break barrels as my first choice and love the effort it takes to find the best pellet and hold .
I only use break barrels and pumpers.I like guns that don't need a secondary device in order to function.PCP are cool,not bashing them at all but,I don't want to buy a gun,then buy a compressor or pump and lug that around too.Just want to grab a gun,pellets and go shoot all day.PCP are useless on their own.Break barrels are ready to go at all times with one quick break of the barrel.
Everybody lives in a commune now? (community). I just like shooting air guns. I don't want a damn thing to do with your make believe commune. Your begging for communism, and have not a clue. By the way, the best hold it not to touch the gun. Let it shake with out interference, and his 20 yard shots will turn into your 60 yard shots. You can call them groups though, and not refer to communism. :)
To make the choice harder…the Gamo GR also comes in .22 as well as .25 and is on their website on black friday deals (until Dec. 1 or when they sell out) for $50 off and free shipping right now (rifle scope/mount) and in .25 you get a few hundred pellets too (I was tempted) The .22 is pushing 29/30fpe with the right lead pellets though…and I already have ammo so I went that way.
Hey Ben, Fyi there's a video by Jim Chapman on the pros and cons of. 177, .22, .25, and .30. In a nutshell, he said that even though .22 and .25 have the same fpe if fired from the same platform, the benefit of a .22 is that it has less cross section so less likely to be thrown off by a wind at shorter distances. A .25 will retain more power at a farther distance. A .22 is more likely to penetrate deeper at shorter ranges and do less meat damage, but the .25 doing more damage doesn't mean that the damage should discount it; a .22 lr. has way more power than either but is commonly used for hunting small game and doesn't do so much damage that people would complain about it. And the power of the .22 Swarm Magnum vs a .22 lr, the .22 lr. is much more powerful. Please suggest to Gamo to reintroduce the Hunter Extreme but with a .22 and a Swarm Magazine Gen 3i with iron sights. The Hunter Extreme had a 60 pound cocking effort and should be able to come close to a sub sonic .22 lr if they came out with a 40 grain slug so it would still hit hard without too much of a sound decibel reading over the Swarm Magnum. I would definitely buy it and I think most adult pellet gun hunters would too since it has the flexibility of shooting more ammo weights and doesn't require changing calibers or platforms. Anyway, thanks again for your excellent video. Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
@@99ron30 Sorry if I wasn't clear. I didn't mean to misinform. What I meant to say was that a .22 heavy pellet or even slugs fired from the Gamo Swarm Magnum platform is not as powerful and has less fpe than the .22lr, as per Jim Chapman's TH-cam video. Imo, I prefer to just stick with the .22 platform and just alternate between a Gamo Swarm Magnum gen. 2 and a .22 lr. platform. Sure, .25 and .30 have some nice platforms and there are pros, but I don't have a huge budget. So far, I use a Gamo .177 strictly for pesting mice, rats, and pigeons. I have my Swarm Magnum gen. 2s in .22 for small game; rabbits, iguanas, pythons, and dispatching caged feral hogs. I don't hunt coyotes or foxes, but if I did, I think a .22lr would be sufficient with proper placement. Hope that clears up the misunderstanding. Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
Good stuff Ben. You know we always love your verses videos. it looks like mass has to be considered when looking at foot pounds of energy. What would the same weight pellet in two different calibers do? Both of them would have to be the same round nose shaped pellet? Maybe the 25 gr or 34 gr JSB pellets. This would leave the only difference being pellet diameter?
I am pretty sure they make pretty much the same energy at the muzzle, but the heavier pellet will carry more energy the further they shoot, but also drop faster. If you can shot well at 60 yards, (these guys can't), the 29fpe .22 still has enough power to bag small game, and not need a range finder for drop (which also takes more practice.). If you can only shoot 25 yards, just get a sling shot.
I think that there was less static pressure based on where the .25 hit. The .22 hit in the center and it had an equal amount of surrounding material in all directions, so more matter to move. The .25 on the other hand, hit much closer to the edge. This means that it was applying more pressure, which it should, but that pressure was being applied to a much smaller area and on one side, the amount of matter it had to displace was far thinner than for the .22. I have no doubt that the .25 is a bit more powerful, but I think based on where the .25 hit, the difference was probably overstated. If you ever get bored, it would he interesting to see what happened if you hit dead center with the .25 as well.
Good point. But if he ever gets smart, he will just crony good hunting pellets at different distances. The numberless, (sans number of cans), theatrics are boring and brainless. That kid does not have a chance.
But keep up the good work specially on these gamo magnums, bought one after your first review of swarm magnum. Still works as good as pcp upto 80 yards
I shot the pellet that was most accurate out of each rifle. I figured actually hitting the target was more important than trying to show with the same pellet. Believe me I tested a bunch and wanted to use the same but it just didn’t work out that way.
Excellent comparison video in the earlier video the 50 yard Target was good do you feel that with a different pellet heavier maybe the group would tighten up. Cool Bus
If he figured out how to shoot a springer at 50 plus yards, his groups would tighten up. But he and Rick already know everything at 25 yards. Have you ever seen a negative test at 25 yards?
Just a thought............I would have liked to see you re do the .25 cal in the center of a melon. Just my opinion, less resistance on the outer part of the melon may have caused the more dramatic wound channel.
Possibly… but naw. I firsthand witnessed the impact. The 25 is more significant. And the results were absolutely in line with what would logically be expected. Faster moving smaller 22 makes less expansion in the wound channel.
It seems to me the hades act like an external hollowpoint after they deform, usually works beat out of lower speeds. But out of a high powered rifle they kind of disintigrate and explode on impact
On wound channels . Shoot in to putty then block off exit hole off fill with plaster of Paris let dry take clay off carefully. You get a real idea how it travels .
The .25 entered on an angled part of the melon skin and passed through a much softer part of the flesh. The .22 pellet entered head on a flat part of the melon and had to pass through a more dense and fibrous portion of melon flesh. Not an apples to apples comparison. Or melon to melon I guess 😇 I would reshoot and try to have each pellet pass through the center of each melon for a more accurate comparison.
22.caliber and 25 caliber you have to match grain weight to get an accurate comparison if the 25 caliber is shooting 20gr. Pellets then the 22.caliber need 20gr. Pellets as well....... Because I shoot 18.21gr. H&N Crow Magnum 5.5 - 22.caliber and they make watermelon explode at 25 yards......
Hey Ben, Seriously, please suggest to Gamo to develop the 40 grain slug and Hunter Extreme Swarm model. Javelin is already producing 40 grain slugs out of soft lead. And there already is a market among serious PCP air gun hunters. But the break barrel hunter market has not been developed as far as I know. Regarding the Hunter Extreme Swarm, if you check out Airgun Arms Hunting SA there are two videos, one from last year showing slug penetration into clay from 12 to 100 fpe platforms and the other from last month on the javelin slugs. Obviously those are from PCP's but there's no reason a break barrel can't achieve something approaching 50 fpe which should be adequate to harvest a medium sized coyote, large fox, feral hog, or bobcat humanely. The cocking effort of the Swarm Magnum is tough for many people, but I suspect, for adult air gunners, this is also a considerable safety feature that they won't have to worry about kids or unauthorized users using it. If a person can curl a 25 pound dumbbell or 50-55 pound curl bar it should be sufficient to cock the Swarm Magnum. To cock a Hunter Extreme that can generate 50 fpe it would take roughly a 40-45 pound dumbbell curl or 85 pound curl bar. I know plenty of air gun hunters that can do that. The benefit of not having to invest in more gear like pumps or generators, or worrying about .22lr shortages, outweighs the con of having a tougher cocking effort. Besides, more states are allowing and extending the seasons for hunting with airguns. Anyway, thanks again for the video. Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
If its the same gun diff calibers the 25 will have more fpe on target.... but... for me amd the gun i use, not enough to make it worth it to lose the flatter trajectory of the 22. I got a hatsan125 and the 25 makes a claimed 34fpe at the muzzle vs 31-32 on the 22. More like 32 on the .25 and 29-30fpe on the 22. But the .22 has a +20yd sweet spot where the pellet Flys almost flat and is less than ¼in high or low through the whole thing and a more gradual and predictable drop at at longer distances. With only 6in(almost exactly 6in) of drop at 70yd with slightly heavier than standard pellets amd only 1.5in of drop at 50. Amd still plenty of fpe to take anything that woukd be ethical to take with a pellet rifle
Yep. I have a mag .22 gamo, and had the hatsan .30 cal. Both made the same power (a lb difference maybe) at the muzzle, and the .30 cal did have a lot of energy left at 80 yards, but even sighting them in at 40 yards, the hatsan would drop one mill dot about every 8 yards, (need a range finder for good shots at different unknown distances), where the .22 would drop one mill dot at about every 24 yards approx. I had a 18 mill dot scope on the .30 cal. (9 above and 9 below), and in the middle, just blink and you lose track of what mill dot you need, and have to count from the hair again. lol
The viper and the whispers are the same gun,,, the speed loader from the whispers,, will not,,fit in the viper,, and the speed loader from the vipers don't fit in the whispers,, same gun, same fps,,,, different colors
Perhaps but it’s not as accurate in the 25 so that’s why I used the Hornet. FYI hornets are actually really great t expansion. It’s because the hard point causes the led to spread out.
I used the pellets that were the most accurate in each gun. I wanted to make sure that both were a hunting option but it was not possible to shoot the same pellet in each gun and get the accuracy that I needed. Or otherwise of course I would have done that.
My guess on that is that they had a lot of old new stock with the 22 and 1.77 grain Magnum GR. That my guess only because everything is the same as the original Magnum GR minus the barrel and they Musta had a ton of stock because they still haven’t ran out of the .25🇺🇸
Thank you Sir!!! Been waiting for Gamo to get a .25 cal out there. Now...can they do a .30 to compete with Hatsan??? I'm sure when they do it will be great 👍
Will a 30 be worth doing? I haven't tracked the performance of the Hatsan to know if I think it would do what I want. But I do have a 25 pcp, so a 25 break barrel might be a good addition.
Just measure the FPE at different distances with good hunting pellets,----OK? Power is measured to know how much they make. But if you guys are into hunting watermelons, this guy is the man!!!! If they have the same cylinder, they will make the same power at the muzzle, but the .25 will carry the energy further. But we will never measure the actual power differences at any distances with watermelons. Take some engineering classes and grow up.
I bought the .25 cal Gamo magnum and it couldn't bring down a squirrel from 12 feet with the pellets it provides. Not very good in my opinion, could be the pellets but overall I am not impressed. Scope also doesn't fit well on the rails and doesn't line up with your eye-view well. Trigger is very heavy I need to try different pellets but the fact that the normal pellets cant even bring a down a squirrel or prairie dog close range is pretty pathetic
Trigger is an easy fix. Just drop a dime on longer screw and you can adjust to be as light as you want. You must have done something wrong with your shot. They will absolutely take out a squirrel as can a .22 with no problem what so ever. It had to have been a poorly placed shot. Not sure what you are calling a "normal pellet", just don't use the light weight PBA garbage they sell so they can say they shoot high FPS which you shouldn't shoot anyways since the ballistics suck once you start getting over 950. Hopefully you get it figured out. Good luck!
iao i9 tengo una replay 10 magnum , secondo te se monto la canna della 1250 senza silenziatore , quindi ha la canna piu lunga , fa qualche differenza?o 20 cm di canna non significano nulla , grazie e bella presentazionehi, I have a replay 10 magnum, in your opinion if I mount the barrel of the 1250 without a silencer, therefore it has a longer barrel, does it make any difference to the performance, speed and precision? Or does 20 cm of barrel mean nothing, thanks friend, greetings from Italy
YOU HIT THE WATERMELON 🍉 WITH THE .25 OFF CENTER YOU HIT THE WATERMELON 🍉 WITH THE .22 DEAD CENTER THERE WAS GREATER MASS SURROUNDING THE PELLET THEREFORE I CONCLUDE THE COMPARISON WAS NOT ACCURATE THAT BEING SAID PERHAPS IF YOU HIT DEAD CENTER .25 OFF CENTER .22 YOU MIGHT (OR LIKELY WOULD) GET DIFFERENT RESULTS
Even if they don’t work out of that gun? That’s stupid, yea I should shoot an inaccurate pellet just so it’s the same brand?! Idk how about I just shoot the pellets that work best out of each?
Thank you, Ben for bringing us break barrel reviews in this PCP dominate air gun community. I shoot break barrels as my first choice and love the effort it takes to find the best pellet and hold .
I only use break barrels and pumpers.I like guns that don't need a secondary device in order to function.PCP are cool,not bashing them at all but,I don't want to buy a gun,then buy a compressor or pump and lug that around too.Just want to grab a gun,pellets and go shoot all day.PCP are useless on their own.Break barrels are ready to go at all times with one quick break of the barrel.
Everybody lives in a commune now? (community). I just like shooting air guns. I don't want a damn thing to do with your make believe commune. Your begging for communism, and have not a clue. By the way, the best hold it not to touch the gun. Let it shake with out interference, and his 20 yard shots will turn into your 60 yard shots. You can call them groups though, and not refer to communism. :)
@letsplayminecraft5424 Then use a sling shot.
the 25 cal is entering the physics that really tears flesh. nice demo. i sure wouldnt want to be hit by it.
An absolute VIVID contrast between the two of them !
Thank you for showing us the GRAPHIC difference between the two !!! 😎
No problem 👍
Bro I'm not joking when I say I love the gamo break barrles and I'm waiting for these videos
To make the choice harder…the Gamo GR also comes in .22 as well as .25 and is on their website on black friday deals (until Dec. 1 or when they sell out) for $50 off and free shipping right now (rifle scope/mount) and in .25 you get a few hundred pellets too (I was tempted) The .22 is pushing 29/30fpe with the right lead pellets though…and I already have ammo so I went that way.
I'm curious to see what pellets the gamo magnum gr .25 cal likes
You got some pretty good chem trailing in sky going on!!
Yes it felt like we were being cooked alive last few weeks here in So Cal
Hey Ben,
Fyi there's a video by Jim Chapman on the pros and cons of. 177, .22, .25, and .30.
In a nutshell, he said that even though .22 and .25 have the same fpe if fired from the same platform, the benefit of a .22 is that it has less cross section so less likely to be thrown off by a wind at shorter distances. A .25 will retain more power at a farther distance. A .22 is more likely to penetrate deeper at shorter ranges and do less meat damage, but the .25 doing more damage doesn't mean that the damage should discount it; a .22 lr. has way more power than either but is commonly used for hunting small game and doesn't do so much damage that people would complain about it. And the power of the .22 Swarm Magnum vs a .22 lr, the .22 lr. is much more powerful.
Please suggest to Gamo to reintroduce the Hunter Extreme but with a .22 and a Swarm Magazine Gen 3i with iron sights. The Hunter Extreme had a 60 pound cocking effort and should be able to come close to a sub sonic .22 lr if they came out with a 40 grain slug so it would still hit hard without too much of a sound decibel reading over the Swarm Magnum.
I would definitely buy it and I think most adult pellet gun hunters would too since it has the flexibility of shooting more ammo weights and doesn't require changing calibers or platforms.
Anyway, thanks again for your excellent video.
Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
I think you have made a mistake regarding .22 Magnum/ .22 WMR. It's much more powerful than .22lr.
@@99ron30 Sorry if I wasn't clear. I didn't mean to misinform.
What I meant to say was that a .22 heavy pellet or even slugs fired from the Gamo Swarm Magnum platform is not as powerful and has less fpe than the .22lr, as per Jim Chapman's TH-cam video.
Imo, I prefer to just stick with the .22 platform and just alternate between a Gamo Swarm Magnum gen. 2 and a .22 lr. platform. Sure, .25 and .30 have some nice platforms and there are pros, but I don't have a huge budget. So far, I use a Gamo .177 strictly for pesting mice, rats, and pigeons. I have my Swarm Magnum gen. 2s in .22 for small game; rabbits, iguanas, pythons, and dispatching caged feral hogs. I don't hunt coyotes or foxes, but if I did, I think a .22lr would be sufficient with proper placement.
Hope that clears up the misunderstanding.
Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
Btw, Ben also has a .22 pellets vs .22 lr. video from 2 years ago.
Hi! is the gamo riflescope 6-24x50 A0 compatible with gamo magnum? thanks for videos!
I'd like to see the Gamo 25 caliber versus the Benjamin in trail 25
Gamo is better I have both it’s more accurate and has more power both.25
Ben,it will take more than one test.I will stick with the 22cal.thanks
I thank you so much for doing this after i ask you to i have so many break barrel's the weirauch hw-80 in 22 is the most accurate i have from AGA
Good stuff Ben. You know we always love your verses videos. it looks like mass has to be considered when looking at foot pounds of energy. What would the same weight pellet in two different calibers do? Both of them would have to be the same round nose shaped pellet? Maybe the 25 gr or 34 gr JSB pellets. This would leave the only difference being pellet diameter?
Well not fair two different pellets. I would say the .25 jsb would go through tall cans. Try using the same pellets in testing
He is not very bright, but for some reason, the manufactures pay him, (and others), to do crappy testing anyway.
As powerful as higher calibers are, I am happy with my Gamo .22. Thank you for this video.
.22 is imo the best all arounder. Can do everything well
I am pretty sure they make pretty much the same energy at the muzzle, but the heavier pellet will carry more energy the further they shoot, but also drop faster. If you can shot well at 60 yards, (these guys can't), the 29fpe .22 still has enough power to bag small game, and not need a range finder for drop (which also takes more practice.).
If you can only shoot 25 yards, just get a sling shot.
I think that there was less static pressure based on where the .25 hit. The .22 hit in the center and it had an equal amount of surrounding material in all directions, so more matter to move. The .25 on the other hand, hit much closer to the edge. This means that it was applying more pressure, which it should, but that pressure was being applied to a much smaller area and on one side, the amount of matter it had to displace was far thinner than for the .22. I have no doubt that the .25 is a bit more powerful, but I think based on where the .25 hit, the difference was probably overstated. If you ever get bored, it would he interesting to see what happened if you hit dead center with the .25 as well.
Good point. But if he ever gets smart, he will just crony good hunting pellets at different distances. The numberless, (sans number of cans), theatrics are boring and brainless. That kid does not have a chance.
@@EarthSurferUSANOT true and very harsh. Where does all your hate come from?
Awww Lamb Chop is a sweetie
It would have been a better comparison if it was 22 cal hades vs 25 cal hades. As pellet shape in same caliber and power makes a lot of difference.
But keep up the good work specially on these gamo magnums, bought one after your first review of swarm magnum. Still works as good as pcp upto 80 yards
I shot the pellet that was most accurate out of each rifle. I figured actually hitting the target was more important than trying to show with the same pellet. Believe me I tested a bunch and wanted to use the same but it just didn’t work out that way.
@@ShootingGearReviews Then the power at distance is flawed. Learn how to shoot.
I like your videos. Good comparison of air rifles. I like your blue and yellow bus. Can you do a video on the bus
Lol that’s not mine. I was in a friends yard for that shot. I was helping do some pesting over there.
My baby is .25 at 930fps , love it
Excellent comparison video in the earlier video the 50 yard Target was good do you feel that with a different pellet heavier maybe the group would tighten up. Cool Bus
Probly not heavier. But different. I’m going to try several more and if I find something that works better I’ll post a video.
@@ShootingGearReviews thank you for your time and information
If he figured out how to shoot a springer at 50 plus yards, his groups would tighten up. But he and Rick already know everything at 25 yards.
Have you ever seen a negative test at 25 yards?
@@EarthSurferUSA Actually no I haven't
Just a thought............I would have liked to see you re do the .25 cal in the center of a melon. Just my opinion, less resistance on the outer part of the melon may have caused the more dramatic wound channel.
Possibly… but naw. I firsthand witnessed the impact. The 25 is more significant. And the results were absolutely in line with what would logically be expected. Faster moving smaller 22 makes less expansion in the wound channel.
The hades pellet after hitting cans tend to fly into pieces . When is the 25 be available?
Good 👍🏻 review Ben !
It seems to me the hades act like an external hollowpoint after they deform, usually works beat out of lower speeds. But out of a high powered rifle they kind of disintigrate and explode on impact
On wound channels . Shoot in to putty then block off exit hole off fill with plaster of Paris let dry take clay off carefully. You get a real idea how it travels .
I wonder what pellet works best for the 25 cal
The JSB 25.39 grain diabolos are pretty accurate in my hatsan 135 .25 cal
Maybe shoot the same Mellon with both calibers for comparison also. ?
Are the .25 as accurate and travel as far ?
The .25 entered on an angled part of the melon skin and passed through a much softer part of the flesh. The .22 pellet entered head on a flat part of the melon and had to pass through a more dense and fibrous portion of melon flesh.
Not an apples to apples comparison. Or melon to melon I guess 😇
I would reshoot and try to have each pellet pass through the center of each melon for a more accurate comparison.
22.caliber and 25 caliber you have to match grain weight to get an accurate comparison if the 25 caliber is shooting 20gr. Pellets then the 22.caliber need 20gr. Pellets as well.......
Because I shoot 18.21gr. H&N Crow Magnum 5.5 - 22.caliber and they make watermelon explode at 25 yards......
You are too much ben I like this vedio
Do both have the same powerplant?
Yes
Do you know if the gr 22 magnum is the same power plant as the hunter extreme? Both claim 1300fps on .22
@@Pitman556yess Mach 1 CHAMBER GAS PISTON
I'm getting the vectis for self defense, which cwl should I get it in for penetration 22. Or 25.
Where can we get the .25 I bought the Gen 1 .22 after watching your videos. Great videos keep up the awesome work
On the Gamo website. Search for .25
I'd say the 25 count one because it's making a fatter hole
Hey Ben,
Seriously, please suggest to Gamo to develop the 40 grain slug and Hunter Extreme Swarm model.
Javelin is already producing 40 grain slugs out of soft lead. And there already is a market among serious PCP air gun hunters. But the break barrel hunter market has not been developed as far as I know.
Regarding the Hunter Extreme Swarm, if you check out Airgun Arms Hunting SA there are two videos, one from last year showing slug penetration into clay from 12 to 100 fpe platforms and the other from last month on the javelin slugs. Obviously those are from PCP's but there's no reason a break barrel can't achieve something approaching 50 fpe which should be adequate to harvest a medium sized coyote, large fox, feral hog, or bobcat humanely. The cocking effort of the Swarm Magnum is tough for many people, but I suspect, for adult air gunners, this is also a considerable safety feature that they won't have to worry about kids or unauthorized users using it. If a person can curl a 25 pound dumbbell or 50-55 pound curl bar it should be sufficient to cock the Swarm Magnum. To cock a Hunter Extreme that can generate 50 fpe it would take roughly a 40-45 pound dumbbell curl or 85 pound curl bar. I know plenty of air gun hunters that can do that. The benefit of not having to invest in more gear like pumps or generators, or worrying about .22lr shortages, outweighs the con of having a tougher cocking effort. Besides, more states are allowing and extending the seasons for hunting with airguns.
Anyway, thanks again for the video.
Stay Safe, Be Well, God Bless.
I used FX slugs on my Gamo 22 1300 Magnum first gen and work amazing
@@AliBaba-xv4jp what grain weight?
@@kenfan5666 22 grain FX hollow slug
@@AliBaba-xv4jp Thanks!👍
Is the hunter extreme .22 the same 33mm setup as the gr 22 magnum? They both claim 1300fps
Trying to figure out which I should buy
25yard this what I do like . Is your Gamo G-Magnum fullu unlocked ? IT should have more than 40 Joules wiith .25 cal
I am waiting for magfed 25 magnum
If its the same gun diff calibers the 25 will have more fpe on target.... but... for me amd the gun i use, not enough to make it worth it to lose the flatter trajectory of the 22. I got a hatsan125 and the 25 makes a claimed 34fpe at the muzzle vs 31-32 on the 22. More like 32 on the .25 and 29-30fpe on the 22. But the .22 has a +20yd sweet spot where the pellet Flys almost flat and is less than ¼in high or low through the whole thing and a more gradual and predictable drop at at longer distances. With only 6in(almost exactly 6in) of drop at 70yd with slightly heavier than standard pellets amd only 1.5in of drop at 50. Amd still plenty of fpe to take anything that woukd be ethical to take with a pellet rifle
Yep. I have a mag .22 gamo, and had the hatsan .30 cal. Both made the same power (a lb difference maybe) at the muzzle, and the .30 cal did have a lot of energy left at 80 yards, but even sighting them in at 40 yards, the hatsan would drop one mill dot about every 8 yards, (need a range finder for good shots at different unknown distances), where the .22 would drop one mill dot at about every 24 yards approx. I had a 18 mill dot scope on the .30 cal. (9 above and 9 below), and in the middle, just blink and you lose track of what mill dot you need, and have to count from the hair again. lol
Hatsan mod 125 wortex
Strengh: 5,5mm-36J ; 6,35mm-38J
Muzzle velocity: 5,5mm-305m/s ; 6,35mm-230m/s
5.5 (22.). 6.35 (25) ?
What Caliber for hunting ?
İm from Turkey
Now try it on a deer skull
What is the difference between the gen 2 and gen 3?
The ammunition feeds and the names are the only difference
The viper and the whispers are the same gun,,, the speed loader from the whispers,, will not,,fit in the viper,, and the speed loader from the vipers don't fit in the whispers,, same gun, same fps,,,, different colors
I love lamchop
That hornet pellet didn't even expand. The Hades pellets are impressive! Hornets, not so much.
Predator Polymag is a way to go.
So if you would have used the hades pellet in .25 cal, I bet the cavitation would have been more.
Perhaps but it’s not as accurate in the 25 so that’s why I used the Hornet. FYI hornets are actually really great t expansion. It’s because the hard point causes the led to spread out.
I don't even have to watch it to know the .25 is. My question is, is the gamo more powerful than my hatsan 125 in .25cal.🤔🤔🤔
My Hatsan 135 in .25 has definitely put the smackdown on a lot of squirrels
i wish i could try these, we got 7,5 joules cap here in germany :(
Come to the states and we’ll take care of you! A cap on air guns is crazy
But you use different pellets, compare it whit the same pellets.Also i think that the penetration of the 5,5 will be deeper.
Maby
I used the pellets that were the most accurate in each gun. I wanted to make sure that both were a hunting option but it was not possible to shoot the same pellet in each gun and get the accuracy that I needed. Or otherwise of course I would have done that.
@@ShootingGearReviews your test is no good u need to use the same pellets no mather what
I also wonder why it's a spring piston and not gas
My guess on that is that they had a lot of old new stock with the 22 and 1.77 grain Magnum GR. That my guess only because everything is the same as the original Magnum GR minus the barrel and they Musta had a ton of stock because they still haven’t ran out of the .25🇺🇸
Thank you Sir!!!
Been waiting for Gamo to get a .25 cal out there.
Now...can they do a .30 to compete with Hatsan??? I'm sure when they do it will be great 👍
Will a 30 be worth doing? I haven't tracked the performance of the Hatsan to know if I think it would do what I want. But I do have a 25 pcp, so a 25 break barrel might be a good addition.
😂😂lmaooo, 😂goat herder shootin😂😂😂
Why use two different pellets? Use hornets on both guns
the most accurate hunting pellets for each gun is what I used. I wanted to actually hit where it mattered.
1 canhão..😮😮
Seams better to use 22 not as much damage to meat or fur
Jooossss❤
gamo magnum .25 vs hatsan 135 .25
Nice make our mouths water. Get um bud.
Just measure the FPE at different distances with good hunting pellets,----OK? Power is measured to know how much they make.
But if you guys are into hunting watermelons, this guy is the man!!!!
If they have the same cylinder, they will make the same power at the muzzle, but the .25 will carry the energy further. But we will never measure the actual power differences at any distances with watermelons. Take some engineering classes and grow up.
Lamb chop loves the test
Nice chemtrails.
22 VS 25 100 yardas una tabla cual penetra mas
two different pellets.
I bought the .25 cal Gamo magnum and it couldn't bring down a squirrel from 12 feet with the pellets it provides. Not very good in my opinion, could be the pellets but overall I am not impressed.
Scope also doesn't fit well on the rails and doesn't line up with your eye-view well.
Trigger is very heavy
I need to try different pellets but the fact that the normal pellets cant even bring a down a squirrel or prairie dog close range is pretty pathetic
Where did you hit them? Head shots should have done the trick easy. Even a good vital shot would have. Sounds like they might have been gut shots.
Trigger is an easy fix. Just drop a dime on longer screw and you can adjust to be as light as you want. You must have done something wrong with your shot. They will absolutely take out a squirrel as can a .22 with no problem what so ever. It had to have been a poorly placed shot. Not sure what you are calling a "normal pellet", just don't use the light weight PBA garbage they sell so they can say they shoot high FPS which you shouldn't shoot anyways since the ballistics suck once you start getting over 950. Hopefully you get it figured out. Good luck!
con una tabla 100 yardas. grasias
Ok
iao i9 tengo una replay 10 magnum , secondo te se monto la canna della 1250 senza silenziatore , quindi ha la canna piu lunga , fa qualche differenza?o 20 cm di canna non significano nulla , grazie e bella presentazionehi, I have a replay 10 magnum, in your opinion if I mount the barrel of the 1250 without a silencer, therefore it has a longer barrel, does it make any difference to the performance, speed and precision? Or does 20 cm of barrel mean nothing, thanks friend, greetings from Italy
dude the beach plum sacrifice....made me sad.
YOU HIT THE WATERMELON 🍉 WITH THE .25 OFF CENTER
YOU HIT THE WATERMELON 🍉 WITH THE .22 DEAD CENTER THERE WAS GREATER MASS SURROUNDING THE PELLET
THEREFORE I CONCLUDE THE COMPARISON WAS NOT ACCURATE
THAT BEING SAID PERHAPS IF YOU HIT DEAD CENTER .25 OFF CENTER .22 YOU MIGHT (OR LIKELY WOULD) GET DIFFERENT RESULTS
For true comparison you have to use the same brand of pellets !!!👎
Even if they don’t work out of that gun? That’s stupid, yea I should shoot an inaccurate pellet just so it’s the same brand?!
Idk how about I just shoot the pellets that work best out of each?
@@ShootingGearReviews So you have to show accuracy ,,comparison" of TWO pellets(😂) but NOT TERMINAL PERFORMANCE !!!
They don't make .25 pellets in every brand
If is PCP .22 bullet is 40 grains is can run 1200 FPS... PCP .22" is good than PCP .25"