Yes you are absolutely right about these other features, but knowing you can get almost the same image out of the XS20, are you willing to pay the extra USD$1200 to get those features. Technically you can get the XS20 with the 23mm, 35mm and 50mm f2 trio for the same price as the XH2S body only, there is no right or wrong answer here, I’m just trying to tell myself I don’t need the most expensive gear and hoping to cure my G.A.S. At the end of the day I did buy both of these cameras and it is a lot of money… and about the thing u pointed out, IBIS i don’t find it to be better tbh, weather proofing is not too important to me because i don’t shoot in heavy rain, view finder is better in the XH2S but definitely not $1200 better, and I like the screen of the XS20 better than the XH2S, just personal opinion, have a nice weekend!
@@kenyudoit hey man i agree with you but what i ment to say it all depends on what is important to a person. If you are out and about a lot street / landscape photography you might want to chose something with weather proofing and strong body. Thats why i say it is not ONLY about image quality. I`m not a fuji user never have for yearsssss i uuse Nikon buut i`m not to happy the way Nikon went. First that silly Z-mount that for me a DX shooter makes totally no sense than now they uuse Z mount for so many years and have less than a handful DX lenses and for those who want to comment silly things like but youu can use FX lenses on a DX body i also know that buut why would i want to carry around or infest in FX lenses when i`m not going to buy an FX camera and i also dont want to carry all that extra weight. I have been looking at the XS 20 buut i`m to scared to take the step knowing about the autofocus problems Fuji has / had for so many months. Even though they seam to have fixed it according to many TH-camrs i see commenting about it this still scares me how can a company bring out firmware after firmware and making things worse. Is some one not doing their job over at Fuji or what ? I also look at Sony now but for DX theyy only make rangefinder style cameras which i dont feel comfortable to use. But on the other hand there is a lot good to say about Sony autofocus perfect and IBIS perfect I never look at Canon maybe because i used Nikon to long and there was always this rivalry between Nikon and Canon that still makes me feel i can not go to take that step (yes i know i`m being silly but it is my personal feeling) Have a great day and happy shooting with your Fujis
@ I agree with u, at the end of the day there is nothing more important than having a camera that feel right to u n fit your needs. For me I will always pick the camera that makes me want to pick it up and go shoot photos, I’ve used a lot of different brands in the past few years at work and felt for a lots of hype on TH-cam. Fuji autofocus have been unreliable for years n I feel they r more focused to create hyped camera than fixing their existing cameras… I honestly had lost confidence in Fuji this year, for my personal use case, I have Fuji Sony and lumix camera but the camera I used most this year is the Sony a7cii, it is definitely not the best camera on paper but it just make me want to take it out and shoot, this is something no TH-camr can convince u with, so maybe try rent a camera to use for a few days before making any purchases just to have a feel of what u like and don’t like using a camera. Have a great day
WOW - I would be extremely disappointed if I had spent all of that money on an X-H2S right now. The dynamic range, colours and detail is a lot better in almost all shots on the X-S20. I have an X-T5 and was going to replace it with an X-H2S for video work, but now I have totally changed my mind. It seems more expensive can actually be worse than cheaper!
i swap to xs20, mainly for photos even though is more video focus camera. all i can say is, the xs20 is good enough for everything unless you need bigger evf, weather sealing and dual sd card slots. for me, the xs20 is everything i need. small, light, bigger battery, has ibis at decent price (though pricey from where i come from) if you buy third party lenses you can save even more.
Hello, first of all amazing shots! From your account you seem to have both the A6700 and XS20 and have a question. Which would you reccomend for my use case? Currently have an X-T30II, 2 TTArtisan lenses and the kit 18-55., as well as the XF 35mm F2. I really want to transition for more video and heard the AF is much better on the XS20 with AI and firmware updates, but nothing compared to the A6700. If I sell my extra gear I can get an XS20 and one Video lens, or sell all my gear and get the A6700+ 18-55 2.8 Sigma. Want a hybrid camera but focus more on Video. Very conflicted on benefits of Open Gate, AF, etc. With the XS20 essentially I'll get the same IQ as my X-T30, which is fine but definetly want to get more into video/travel filmmaking. Looking for a camera for the next few years. AF has missed quite some shots (May be user error I'm still relatively new). I like the FX30 sensor in the a6700, 4k 120, and Dual Native ISO. Fuji Colors have wowed me lately, but if I shoot in log it won't matter as much. Just need something reliable, portable, great video & photo and have narrowed it 2. I'm in the Fuji ecosystem which is making me want to stay, but the jump is tempting, let me know your input!
First of all, thank you very much. I started off with fuji, the XT30 and the kit 18-55, after using and sell a bunch of bodies and lenses... I found the 18-55 kit lens have the best autofocus, so if you want to stay in with fuji, keep that lens. XS20 with the 18-55 kit, pairing that with a fast prime for night shooting will be a good start for video and travel filmmaking, To be honest I am not finding much benefit with Open Gate because I don't shoot those instagram talking head reels or anamorphic, and cropping that for 9:16 is still cropping out a lot of footage, I like posting the 3:2 as if it is a moving photo but that's pretty much it. the biggest upgrade from the XT30II for you will be the IBIS and the battery life. for the Sony 6700, I think it is a super good value for money, in my experience s-log3 grades easier than f-log2, the AF is still a lot better than fuji, especially touch tracking, I think Sony's AF will still be ahead of the competition for the next 2-3 years. The 4k 120p can only be use in bright day light, otherwise it will be very grainy. the second base ISO will be a little noisier than you expect so don't base your decision just on this one. one more thing is I have used the 18-55 sigma at work, the f2.8 is great but at 18mm there is a big distortion, I guess it is necessary to keep the size down and large aperture. They are both good cameras, fuji's problem is the autofocus and bad firmware update like the one in xh2s, Sony's problem is the camera will remain what it is without adding any new features like other brands. I hope this help you a little bit with your decision, let me know if you have other things you wanna discuss.
@@kenyudoit Thanks for the response! Quick update: I'm still on the fence. I got great deals for each lined up. $1250 for the a6700 with a 27mm TTArtisan, and $1200 for an X-S20 and 18-55. For Fuji, I also don't have a need for Open Gate right now, but eventually I want to shoot anamorphic. Battery life will be a huge plus however, and if I eventually upgrade I can keep lenses. As for Sony, limited firmware updates, but much better AF. Weather sealing is a plus. But glass is expensive and upgrade path would mean selling my APSC lenses, or buying Full Frame right now. I also don't care for AF joystick when there's touch to track. I'm gonna feel both in hand and make a decision within a week, your insight was very helpful!
I wanted to sell it for a long time now, I got it at the beginning of the year hoping it can handle some of my work, coz i mainly shoot interview and instructional video for my university, I have to operate two cameras on my own so I really need it to be reliable, and I have waited for a few firmware update already I just really need the right tool for the right job, it covered the expense for my new camera and I am really happy with the new camera, video coming up with the new camera soon
Sorry I cannot give you a definitive answer but I can tell you my experience with my copy of the xs20, I have use it in light rain, it survived, I live in Hong Kong and it is quite hot and humid in the summer and I never had condensation issue, but I cannot guarantee it will be the same for you...
I live in Australia, quite hot as well. I use my X-S20 for vlogs, documentary work and talking heads. I haven't got any issues so far and I've been using it since the release date. Not saying it can't overheat, but in my experience it's not a real issue.
I was actually wondering if you had kept your X-S20 with all the Fuji firmware debacle going on, and got my answer! Good shots for comparison, really thought there would be more difference in the night shots.
yes i thought the night shots will have bigger difference too, but I tested, but not 100% confident to include in the video that both camera don't have a second base iso so i guess thats why the different is not as big as we thought it will be
I thought the X-H2s was slightly sharper in the daylight shots, whereas the X-S20 was better at night. It seemed to be slightly sharper with better contrast. Weird.
ALL Fuji cameras on X Mount have the same IQ, they always have. My XT30II was as good as my XT4, my XT4 as good as my XH2S, my XS20 as good as my XS20. The difference on fuji cameras comes down to features. The reason XH2S is much more expensive than the rest is because of stacked sensor, nothing to do with IQ. In fact... XH2S might be slightly worst than the rest because of this (though I doubt many would be able to tell in a blind test). It's simple, you either need stacked sensor benefits or you don't.
So here is my thought process, I know the fuji camera used to have the same sensor in the same generation of camera up to generation 4, therefore the same IQ, but things change in generation 5, xs20 is using the older gen 4 sensor and the xh2s is using the one and only stack sensor that have 14bit read out and the dynamic range tested by cineD show the xh2s have 13.4 stops compare to 10.8 stops of the xs20. So i got curious and made this video to see what will happen in a real world test.
In my use case it never overheated on me, I shoot on one card only and I only shoot 100Mbps, and I shoot short clips mainly on the street so I would say overheating is not a problem for me, i guess it will be different if you use it for longer shoot in professional environment.
@ I am actually looking for my first Fuji camera, I mainly want to use it to shoot some pictures on my vacations 🙂 I’m still looking at different models, but with all these options it gets hard for me to find what I really need
@@stan6852 if u mainly want to shoot photo, every camera that Fuji is selling will take great photos, so I suggest u go to a camera store and play around with the different cameras and see which one u like base on the look and feel and price, I would recommend u getting a model with IBIS, because once u have the camera u will shoot some video, and without in body stabilisation, the video will be so shaky u will think the camera is broken. I think camera manufacturers have to wake up and see the phone’s camera r so good nowadays that intuitively user will expect the video coming out of their camera to be stable and looking great, hope this help
@@alexisrivero6790 xm5 is basically the xs20 without IBIS, stablization is something that once you had used it before you can't go back to cameras without it, especially if you want to shot video out and about, I guess look out for deals for the xs20, it got the better grip, better battery life and a few more buttons
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There are also other things that play its not only about image quality.
How about better IBIS or weather proofing, better view finder etc etc
Yes you are absolutely right about these other features, but knowing you can get almost the same image out of the XS20, are you willing to pay the extra USD$1200 to get those features. Technically you can get the XS20 with the 23mm, 35mm and 50mm f2 trio for the same price as the XH2S body only, there is no right or wrong answer here, I’m just trying to tell myself I don’t need the most expensive gear and hoping to cure my G.A.S. At the end of the day I did buy both of these cameras and it is a lot of money… and about the thing u pointed out, IBIS i don’t find it to be better tbh, weather proofing is not too important to me because i don’t shoot in heavy rain, view finder is better in the XH2S but definitely not $1200 better, and I like the screen of the XS20 better than the XH2S, just personal opinion, have a nice weekend!
@@kenyudoit hey man i agree with you but what i ment to say it all depends on what is important to a person. If you are out and about a lot street / landscape photography you might want to chose something with weather proofing and strong body. Thats why i say it is not ONLY about image quality. I`m not a fuji user never have for yearsssss i uuse Nikon buut i`m not to happy the way Nikon went. First that silly Z-mount that for me a DX shooter makes totally no sense than now they uuse Z mount for so many years and have less than a handful DX lenses and for those who want to comment silly things like but youu can use FX lenses on a DX body i also know that buut why would i want to carry around or infest in FX lenses when i`m not going to buy an FX camera and i also dont want to carry all that extra weight. I have been looking at the XS 20 buut i`m to scared to take the step knowing about the autofocus problems Fuji has / had for so many months. Even though they seam to have fixed it according to many TH-camrs i see commenting about it this still scares me how can a company bring out firmware after firmware and making things worse. Is some one not doing their job over at Fuji or what ? I also look at Sony now but for DX theyy only make rangefinder style cameras which i dont feel comfortable to use. But on the other hand there is a lot good to say about Sony autofocus perfect and IBIS perfect I never look at Canon maybe because i used Nikon to long and there was always this rivalry between Nikon and Canon that still makes me feel i can not go to take that step (yes i know i`m being silly but it is my personal feeling) Have a great day and happy shooting with your Fujis
@ I agree with u, at the end of the day there is nothing more important than having a camera that feel right to u n fit your needs. For me I will always pick the camera that makes me want to pick it up and go shoot photos, I’ve used a lot of different brands in the past few years at work and felt for a lots of hype on TH-cam. Fuji autofocus have been unreliable for years n I feel they r more focused to create hyped camera than fixing their existing cameras… I honestly had lost confidence in Fuji this year, for my personal use case, I have Fuji Sony and lumix camera but the camera I used most this year is the Sony a7cii, it is definitely not the best camera on paper but it just make me want to take it out and shoot, this is something no TH-camr can convince u with, so maybe try rent a camera to use for a few days before making any purchases just to have a feel of what u like and don’t like using a camera. Have a great day
@@kenyudoit Have a great day
You need to change your title to - “Is the Fujifilm XH2-S worth twice the price of the X-S20.”
WOW - I would be extremely disappointed if I had spent all of that money on an X-H2S right now. The dynamic range, colours and detail is a lot better in almost all shots on the X-S20. I have an X-T5 and was going to replace it with an X-H2S for video work, but now I have totally changed my mind. It seems more expensive can actually be worse than cheaper!
i swap to xs20, mainly for photos even though is more video focus camera. all i can say is, the xs20 is good enough for everything unless you need bigger evf, weather sealing and dual sd card slots.
for me, the xs20 is everything i need. small, light, bigger battery, has ibis at decent price (though pricey from where i come from)
if you buy third party lenses you can save even more.
Hello, first of all amazing shots! From your account you seem to have both the A6700 and XS20 and have a question.
Which would you reccomend for my use case? Currently have an X-T30II, 2 TTArtisan lenses and the kit 18-55., as well as the XF 35mm F2. I really want to transition for more video and heard the AF is much better on the XS20 with AI and firmware updates, but nothing compared to the A6700. If I sell my extra gear I can get an XS20 and one Video lens, or sell all my gear and get the A6700+ 18-55 2.8 Sigma. Want a hybrid camera but focus more on Video.
Very conflicted on benefits of Open Gate, AF, etc. With the XS20 essentially I'll get the same IQ as my X-T30, which is fine but definetly want to get more into video/travel filmmaking. Looking for a camera for the next few years. AF has missed quite some shots (May be user error I'm still relatively new). I like the FX30 sensor in the a6700, 4k 120, and Dual Native ISO. Fuji Colors have wowed me lately, but if I shoot in log it won't matter as much.
Just need something reliable, portable, great video & photo and have narrowed it 2. I'm in the Fuji ecosystem which is making me want to stay, but the jump is tempting, let me know your input!
First of all, thank you very much.
I started off with fuji, the XT30 and the kit 18-55, after using and sell a bunch of bodies and lenses... I found the 18-55 kit lens have the best autofocus, so if you want to stay in with fuji, keep that lens. XS20 with the 18-55 kit, pairing that with a fast prime for night shooting will be a good start for video and travel filmmaking, To be honest I am not finding much benefit with Open Gate because I don't shoot those instagram talking head reels or anamorphic, and cropping that for 9:16 is still cropping out a lot of footage, I like posting the 3:2 as if it is a moving photo but that's pretty much it. the biggest upgrade from the XT30II for you will be the IBIS and the battery life.
for the Sony 6700, I think it is a super good value for money, in my experience s-log3 grades easier than f-log2, the AF is still a lot better than fuji, especially touch tracking, I think Sony's AF will still be ahead of the competition for the next 2-3 years. The 4k 120p can only be use in bright day light, otherwise it will be very grainy. the second base ISO will be a little noisier than you expect so don't base your decision just on this one. one more thing is I have used the 18-55 sigma at work, the f2.8 is great but at 18mm there is a big distortion, I guess it is necessary to keep the size down and large aperture.
They are both good cameras, fuji's problem is the autofocus and bad firmware update like the one in xh2s, Sony's problem is the camera will remain what it is without adding any new features like other brands. I hope this help you a little bit with your decision, let me know if you have other things you wanna discuss.
@@kenyudoit Thanks for the response! Quick update: I'm still on the fence. I got great deals for each lined up. $1250 for the a6700 with a 27mm TTArtisan, and $1200 for an X-S20 and 18-55.
For Fuji, I also don't have a need for Open Gate right now, but eventually I want to shoot anamorphic. Battery life will be a huge plus however, and if I eventually upgrade I can keep lenses.
As for Sony, limited firmware updates, but much better AF. Weather sealing is a plus. But glass is expensive and upgrade path would mean selling my APSC lenses, or buying Full Frame right now. I also don't care for AF joystick when there's touch to track. I'm gonna feel both in hand and make a decision within a week, your insight was very helpful!
@@mathewanaya2757 Glad to help, great deal on both the camera, try them both and see which one you like better.
Wow - excellent video! Given the comparison, I would not spend the extra money on the XH-2S, unless I wanted a camera that does primarily video.
Thank you, glad this video help, can use the extra money to buy some lens, lenses are expensive these day too.
i bought xs20 , cant wait to use it.
Awesome, you are going to love it.
@kenyudoit best all rounder camera
Thanks!
Thank you!
Fuji dropped the firmware update on 11/21. Bummer you sold your H2s before it to compare. Thanks for the video, the X-20 is a really good camera.
I wanted to sell it for a long time now, I got it at the beginning of the year hoping it can handle some of my work, coz i mainly shoot interview and instructional video for my university, I have to operate two cameras on my own so I really need it to be reliable, and I have waited for a few firmware update already I just really need the right tool for the right job, it covered the expense for my new camera and I am really happy with the new camera, video coming up with the new camera soon
Can you answer if the x-s20 can withstand wet conditions & condensation from hot & warm humidity? If so, then I will choose it.
Sorry I cannot give you a definitive answer but I can tell you my experience with my copy of the xs20, I have use it in light rain, it survived, I live in Hong Kong and it is quite hot and humid in the summer and I never had condensation issue, but I cannot guarantee it will be the same for you...
I live in Australia, quite hot as well. I use my X-S20 for vlogs, documentary work and talking heads. I haven't got any issues so far and I've been using it since the release date. Not saying it can't overheat, but in my experience it's not a real issue.
I was actually wondering if you had kept your X-S20 with all the Fuji firmware debacle going on, and got my answer! Good shots for comparison, really thought there would be more difference in the night shots.
yes i thought the night shots will have bigger difference too, but I tested, but not 100% confident to include in the video that both camera don't have a second base iso so i guess thats why the different is not as big as we thought it will be
It's not officially listed in the s20, but 3200 is second base iso. Test it.@@kenyudoit
竟然猜错了。。我感觉ACAM无论从色彩还是暗部噪点比BCAM都要好，一开始我以为ACAM是xh2s，仔细看拍三角梅那段画面，左下角树灌丛里，acam几乎没有噪点，bacm有大量的色块一样的跳动的噪点，acam高光竟然也比bcam好很多，amazing
對呀，盲測一下就能省錢，根本看不出來
I thought the X-H2s was slightly sharper in the daylight shots, whereas the X-S20 was better at night. It seemed to be slightly sharper with better contrast. Weird.
I think they are really hard to tell apart the more you look at them the more confuse you will get because they are so similar.
ALL Fuji cameras on X Mount have the same IQ, they always have. My XT30II was as good as my XT4, my XT4 as good as my XH2S, my XS20 as good as my XS20. The difference on fuji cameras comes down to features. The reason XH2S is much more expensive than the rest is because of stacked sensor, nothing to do with IQ. In fact... XH2S might be slightly worst than the rest because of this (though I doubt many would be able to tell in a blind test). It's simple, you either need stacked sensor benefits or you don't.
So here is my thought process, I know the fuji camera used to have the same sensor in the same generation of camera up to generation 4, therefore the same IQ, but things change in generation 5, xs20 is using the older gen 4 sensor and the xh2s is using the one and only stack sensor that have 14bit read out and the dynamic range tested by cineD show the xh2s have 13.4 stops compare to 10.8 stops of the xs20. So i got curious and made this video to see what will happen in a real world test.
Thanks for the good comparison video. What is the country in the video?
thank you, this was shot in my home town, Hong Kong.
@kenyudoit Thanks. beautiful city!
I am considering buying this camera, however i have heard some people speak about an overheathing issue? Is it really that bad?
In my use case it never overheated on me, I shoot on one card only and I only shoot 100Mbps, and I shoot short clips mainly on the street so I would say overheating is not a problem for me, i guess it will be different if you use it for longer shoot in professional environment.
@ I am actually looking for my first Fuji camera, I mainly want to use it to shoot some pictures on my vacations 🙂 I’m still looking at different models, but with all these options it gets hard for me to find what I really need
@@stan6852 if u mainly want to shoot photo, every camera that Fuji is selling will take great photos, so I suggest u go to a camera store and play around with the different cameras and see which one u like base on the look and feel and price, I would recommend u getting a model with IBIS, because once u have the camera u will shoot some video, and without in body stabilisation, the video will be so shaky u will think the camera is broken. I think camera manufacturers have to wake up and see the phone’s camera r so good nowadays that intuitively user will expect the video coming out of their camera to be stable and looking great, hope this help
I look a little more sharpness in some scenes with ths xs20, both are great cameras
yes both are great but the value of the xs20 is crazy comparing the two.
@kenyudoit im looking for the xm5 for the video specs too
@@alexisrivero6790 xm5 is basically the xs20 without IBIS, stablization is something that once you had used it before you can't go back to cameras without it, especially if you want to shot video out and about, I guess look out for deals for the xs20, it got the better grip, better battery life and a few more buttons
Seems like if want buy fujifilm just spend less possible for the best or just don't spend it at all 😂😂
yes, in a sense it is good for us customers
Great comparison
thank you very much