It has been reported that Xiaomi are losing $10k on every sale. Still weird for the Ford CEO to be saying he loves this saloon car as his own company transitions into only selling SUVs
Because the average buyer doesn't buy a supercar, if you are in the business of selling 1$ watches making millions, you'd appreciate swiss tourbillions. Doesn't mean you'd sell any yourself
maybe they are in the common sense, but in the pratical sense they aren't, BYD and i think xiaomi and other chinese manufacturers have subsidiaries from china, so they aren't losing money per say, the chinese government covers it all
I live in Shanghai, and I see them often. The Taycan inspiration is undoubtedly there, but it is completely different and unique once you see it in person. The Taycan created a typology (or topography?) and this car follows that typology. I don't see it as a direct copy, it is the same that happened in the late 70s and 80s when Mazda, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Ford, Pontiac, and Chevrolet, all followed the same trends to design cars, or just look at how the Volkswagen Golf created a whole category of cars that looks alike. The proportions of the Xiaomi are way better than the Taycan, with plenty of space in the back seats, way more range and tech, and even quicker acceleration, almost 1 second faster... best thing so far is the price, unbeatable there.
Because the Lincoln Nautilus is built in China. He’s in direct partnership with China. I work for Ford at the Chicago Assembly Plant 14 years now, so I was made aware of this.
Ford has lots of exclusive China-only models too, Ford lost most of the market in the past years. The lineup looks and feels too outdated with laggy screens for instance. I live in China, and I know Lincoln was semi-popular here about 5 years ago but the brand is almost dead now. I think he forgot he was being recorded and was just honest (he knows that the SU7 will never be allowed into the USA anyway... the Anti-China Lobby is huge!).
Weirdly enough, i have more trust for Xiaomi to make a car than most other Chinese brand since quite a lot of their electronic products like smartphones, lamps, laptops, wearables, etc are actually really good and usually more affordable than competition.
People are not ready to pay margin/premium on sedans from Ford the way they pay on trucks from Ford... God knows Ford tried several times even in Europe.
Chinese car manufacturers have honestly improved a lot in recent years. And the CEO of Xiaomi is actually interested in cars and racing. He actually went to learn how to drift and drive on the track. That's impressive.
They haven't , if you spent 2 seconds in unbiased Chinese media you'd see these are built like trash and Chinese EVs are falling apart and catching on fire all the time.
In the 1970s Japanese automakers employed a similar strategy to avoid tariffs on pickup trucks being shipped to the US. The cargo beds were shipped separately and were installed at the US ports.
For him to say this publicly does make me think it's more of a rally cry to up Ford's EV game. I just hope it also means Ford could up their general sedan game, since they left the market essentially to become an SUV/Truck company. A Ford sedan would be a welcome thing, even if it was only an EV. Although with the EV push starting to face more realities and stalling a little any Ford sedan would be welcome. As for the Xiaomi itself. It is nice but definitely an amalgam design. But still admittedly well done. Chinese EVs though are heavily subsidized which is why they can sell at those prices. Even if imported, I wonder if they would do it at that pricing. Although I'm sure they would still undercut say Tesla.
after my recent dealership experience where they lied about the odometer reading before delivery, i'd rather take a risk with my data on a chinese EV that ever visit an american dealer again. $100k trucks are goofy
12:30 the monitors at the rear aren’t come with the car. Driver can put Xiaomi pad/iPad there via attachments. Also there are plenty of 1/4 screw holes in the interior for things like phone holder and GoPro.
These chinese cars have been booming here in Brazil, the prices are also amazing for what they offer, but it's not magic, most of these brands have chinese subsidiary, that's why they are cheap, but still, good price is good price, but if you hate the chinese government, don't buy it
This car is like a weird mix of design elements from other manufacturers. Front, mclaren. Front side view, gives me 1st gen subaru brz vibes. Full side view is 100% taycan, and the rear end really reminds me of like an ioniq 6 or a mercedes eq. Normally I'd hate it, but this was executed pretty well and actually works as a cohesive design
Some are attacking him for this, all brands benchmark competing products for months or years, it's very common. Glad to see him taking Chinese brands seriously. I just hope this means we get more actual Ford cars. There was that Ford RS 200 concept made by Ford designers that was shown off about a month ago that looked sick. Would love to see that go into production as like a c8 rival. An electric hatchback inspired by the 90s escort cosworth with flared arches, pixilated lights, and the whale tail spoiler would be a really cool affordable electric car.
SU7 is not coming to the states. Ford’s ceo is just being honest about the state of potential overseas competition; I respect him for that. US lawmakers have all but ensured chinese autos fail here with a 100% auto tax. The lotus electre is being affected hard by this. Additionally the sedan market in china is HUGE. That’s not the case in the US
While Xiaomi have an extremely low presence in the US, their product line is expansive. I've owned many of their products, and highly respect their corporate edict of limiting prices to a 7 or 8% profit margin.
I swear, where did "Chaomi" come from?! It's "Shaomi"! Except this little thing that caused me a mental breakdown, I really enjoyed the styling analysis of the SU7. Let's see how it goes if it gets commercial approval for EU market too.
Yes, the design is heavily influenced by the Taycan, and yes the front end looks like the McLaren 720S. Regardless, it's one if the best looking cars being manufactured today. As was pointed out in the video, there is still a big market for sedans.
@@toyotagaz correct, including solar technology and all the technologies that branch from that. In addition, they own the factories and highly skilled workers to actually manufacture. The West really needs to wake up.
It seems like Xiaomi stock can't be bought through my broker. If they partner with Ford, they'll need to be at least twice as large as they are now to keep up with American demand. Looks like I'll miss out on this opportunity this time.
I must say Chinese cars are really good as a consumer product. However, a car should be something you want to "fall in love with" and not just "survive" living with it. I had a Lynk &co 01 SUV (Volvo and Geely love child) with the best technology from both and 10 years warranty, used it for 1 year / 30K miles, such good product, build qualtiy was even up there with the best of Europe yet I traded it for an Alfa Romeo Giulia. I know how these are built, the downgrade was evident but it had something I can't explain that made it a my car not just a product that takes me from point A to B.
I'm from Michigan, most my family has more recently worked for GM, but i am unbaised. Ford has many flaws but they take the world market more seriously and if and when can apply it to domestic market, great!, but first the world, any amount of looking at "Ford" tells you that, he isn't saying it for no reason.
Seen it in the flesh its look like 2 time the price it is, but be wary of the brakes from what ive seen they use smaller brakepad for the horsepower they have which cause brake fatigue. The driving assit also isnt is good as their competitors. Zeeker,geely and chery product are better choices
That's a fact. Only Chinese can produce EV's...even though im not an EV fan at all. Look better than Peugeot or Mercedes. I think only Renault and Skoda will survive on EU EV market and for US Tesla unless they all partner up. Chinese can't win the ICE engine race, but EV is their game.
lolol they're a part of the 5bill. america passing a bill of 5billl for anti Chinese propaganda. what those TH-camrs say are utterly bs just visit china once and you'll understand
They're trying to get China to specialize in cheap EV garbage thats affordable to import so we can focus on the better stuff. I'd still rather buy Mexican tbh 😂 Jesla when???
This company is no joke. I remember when I used to love tech videos I would watch Xiaomi phone reviews and Samsung and Apple were in BIG trouble. Then Trump came and banned their phones.
@@WaveManMike I am not at all interested in using a Chinese phone and even less interested on buying a Chinese EV just because the same company makes "good" Chinese phones... Quite frankly Apple has one job as it is and I don't even think they're very good at it. An "Apple Car" is nowhere near my to-do list.
@@Bern_il_Cinq you realize that an Apple car would absolutely Destroy the competition right? Brand recognition that rivals Toyota from a company more capable than Tesla. An Apple car would send the car industry at least 5 years into the future.
Solid job by Ford in picking their west-wing management. The problem with Chinese EVs is the build quality consistency, electrical fires and reliability...you couldn't pay me to drive one.
That Taycan ripoff has been a disaster for the company , you're a little late to the party my guy 👎 from me, keep championing the downfall of ford 😂 pre-sales of $100,000 units before they were even delivered literally means nothing, are you new ? Like wtf are you talking about lmao same thing happened with the Tesla cybertruck 4 years ago 😂🤦 unsubscribing from this propaganda
I had a xiaomi phone. They make excellent products very good performance at the cheapest price. i hope ford partners with xiaomi we need good ev sedans i am sick of overpriced ugly suvs and trucks
I agree. There's a tremendous opportunity in the United States for two things - affordable small cars, and well designed mid sized and large sedans. I loathe SUVs and Crossovers.
I wouldn't be worry to much with these cheap Chinese ev... they're so cheap for a reason by cutting to much costs on quality build etc... and that's never a good idea when it comes to efficiency and safety
Was that a taycan with a mclaren front?
Wow, that is exactly what it looks like!
Pretty much
That's the result you get when you mix taycan and Mc laren
I think they just asked the ai to mix the design of the Taycan and 720s
Yup @ 1/5 the price , it's a steal as confirmed by Farley . He doesn't want to give it back !!!
What this tells me is that Farley is honest. He’s straight up gonna say that a product is superior to his own.
Or he has an investment in it. Come on these are business men. They are garbage humans…. I am a CEO. I know
@@CHEDDARANDWAFFLES I too am a CEO. I’m the CEO of Racism.
Which is why Ford will go bankrupt, because the SU7 is garbage
It has been reported that Xiaomi are losing $10k on every sale.
Still weird for the Ford CEO to be saying he loves this saloon car as his own company transitions into only selling SUVs
Because the average buyer doesn't buy a supercar, if you are in the business of selling 1$ watches making millions, you'd appreciate swiss tourbillions. Doesn't mean you'd sell any yourself
@@imakro69 The Xiaomi SU7 isn't a supercar.
And how much is Rivian or Lucid or Ford losing on their Evs ? 10k loss looks very respectable for a bew entrant.
maybe they are in the common sense, but in the pratical sense they aren't, BYD and i think xiaomi and other chinese manufacturers have subsidiaries from china, so they aren't losing money per say, the chinese government covers it all
Might as well make his sedan into a benchmark or something as a study for their next product
It looks good! It kinda looks like a mix between a Porsche Taycan and a McLaren 720S.
My exact thoughts
I live in Shanghai, and I see them often. The Taycan inspiration is undoubtedly there, but it is completely different and unique once you see it in person. The Taycan created a typology (or topography?) and this car follows that typology. I don't see it as a direct copy, it is the same that happened in the late 70s and 80s when Mazda, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Ford, Pontiac, and Chevrolet, all followed the same trends to design cars, or just look at how the Volkswagen Golf created a whole category of cars that looks alike. The proportions of the Xiaomi are way better than the Taycan, with plenty of space in the back seats, way more range and tech, and even quicker acceleration, almost 1 second faster... best thing so far is the price, unbeatable there.
AliExpress Taycan!!!
And you cheap can't afford it 😂
Temu lol
Because the Lincoln Nautilus is built in China. He’s in direct partnership with China. I work for Ford at the Chicago Assembly Plant 14 years now, so I was made aware of this.
Ford has lots of exclusive China-only models too, Ford lost most of the market in the past years. The lineup looks and feels too outdated with laggy screens for instance. I live in China, and I know Lincoln was semi-popular here about 5 years ago but the brand is almost dead now. I think he forgot he was being recorded and was just honest (he knows that the SU7 will never be allowed into the USA anyway... the Anti-China Lobby is huge!).
Weirdly enough, i have more trust for Xiaomi to make a car than most other Chinese brand since quite a lot of their electronic products like smartphones, lamps, laptops, wearables, etc are actually really good and usually more affordable than competition.
Maybe if Ford sold a sedan in the U.S., he would have something else to drive.
People are not ready to pay margin/premium on sedans from Ford the way they pay on trucks from Ford...
God knows Ford tried several times even in Europe.
There is the Mondeo, clearly with Mustang looks, but still, exclusive to China because Ford couldn't assemble the parts in Mexico on time.
Xiaomi acquisition or partnership with Ford incoming...gotta avoid those tariffs
bullseye
lol Xiaomi is worth more than Ford, def not the acquisition route
@@lollolol3700 Xiaomi could buy Ford
If this was in the US, I would totally buy it. So much better than a Mediocre Model 3. I love this car, I have been watching it on a few channels.
Definitely not. Even the Xiaomi ceo believes the Model 3 is better hes said it himself. As you can clearly tell the Xiaomi is inspired by the Model 3.
You're apparently uneducated and uniformed, the SU7 is trash.
It looks a hell of a lot better than anything the United States has to offer right now!😂
Chinese car manufacturers have honestly improved a lot in recent years. And the CEO of Xiaomi is actually interested in cars and racing. He actually went to learn how to drift and drive on the track. That's impressive.
They haven't , if you spent 2 seconds in unbiased Chinese media you'd see these are built like trash and Chinese EVs are falling apart and catching on fire all the time.
Watching this video on my Xiaomi.
The price you keep repeating is meaningless outside China.
The BYD seal with sells for 25k in China is between 50 to 60k in Europe.
Them taxes. (Australia laughing in the corner)
I mean they could partner up with them. Bring the car without wheels, front/rear ends, seats, and have the new parts installed here.
In the 1970s Japanese automakers employed a similar strategy to avoid tariffs on pickup trucks being shipped to the US. The cargo beds were shipped separately and were installed at the US ports.
@@terrencebiggane8648 good to know this a plausible thing to do.
saw a nio et9 driving in Cali one day
I cant believe this car is from a Chinese designer who has designed the BMW IX
For him to say this publicly does make me think it's more of a rally cry to up Ford's EV game. I just hope it also means Ford could up their general sedan game, since they left the market essentially to become an SUV/Truck company. A Ford sedan would be a welcome thing, even if it was only an EV. Although with the EV push starting to face more realities and stalling a little any Ford sedan would be welcome.
As for the Xiaomi itself. It is nice but definitely an amalgam design. But still admittedly well done. Chinese EVs though are heavily subsidized which is why they can sell at those prices. Even if imported, I wonder if they would do it at that pricing. Although I'm sure they would still undercut say Tesla.
"Diffuser diapers" 😂
The Xiaomi SU7 is technically a very impressive car and beautiful too.
after my recent dealership experience where they lied about the odometer reading before delivery, i'd rather take a risk with my data on a chinese EV that ever visit an american dealer again. $100k trucks are goofy
12:30 the monitors at the rear aren’t come with the car. Driver can put Xiaomi pad/iPad there via attachments.
Also there are plenty of 1/4 screw holes in the interior for things like phone holder and GoPro.
These chinese cars have been booming here in Brazil, the prices are also amazing for what they offer, but it's not magic, most of these brands have chinese subsidiary, that's why they are cheap, but still, good price is good price, but if you hate the chinese government, don't buy it
He is putting employees and unions on notice.
This car is like a weird mix of design elements from other manufacturers. Front, mclaren. Front side view, gives me 1st gen subaru brz vibes. Full side view is 100% taycan, and the rear end really reminds me of like an ioniq 6 or a mercedes eq. Normally I'd hate it, but this was executed pretty well and actually works as a cohesive design
Some are attacking him for this, all brands benchmark competing products for months or years, it's very common. Glad to see him taking Chinese brands seriously.
I just hope this means we get more actual Ford cars. There was that Ford RS 200 concept made by Ford designers that was shown off about a month ago that looked sick. Would love to see that go into production as like a c8 rival.
An electric hatchback inspired by the 90s escort cosworth with flared arches, pixilated lights, and the whale tail spoiler would be a really cool affordable electric car.
Ford CEO Jim Farley, for a moment, turned into his cousin, Chris Farley’s, character in ‘Tommy Boy.’
If you look at the tarif barriers in the US and the European Market you will recognise that this Car wouldn't cost 30 k.
McLaren Taycan
Back is Aston Martin, front is McLaren
SU7 is not coming to the states. Ford’s ceo is just being honest about the state of potential overseas competition; I respect him for that. US lawmakers have all but ensured chinese autos fail here with a 100% auto tax. The lotus electre is being affected hard by this. Additionally the sedan market in china is HUGE. That’s not the case in the US
While Xiaomi have an extremely low presence in the US, their product line is expansive. I've owned many of their products, and highly respect their corporate edict of limiting prices to a 7 or 8% profit margin.
Apple invested BILLIONS on R&D for an Apple car. My best guess is the profit margins of >100% couldn't be resolved.
Just watch who his new employer is in a few year, these kind of people are only loyal to themselves.
I swear, where did "Chaomi" come from?! It's "Shaomi"! Except this little thing that caused me a mental breakdown, I really enjoyed the styling analysis of the SU7. Let's see how it goes if it gets commercial approval for EU market too.
In Europe it will have a very different price tag.
@@avigator I'm sure due to the taxes it will be on par with other brands, price wise.
Yes, the design is heavily influenced by the Taycan, and yes the front end looks like the McLaren 720S. Regardless, it's one if the best looking cars being manufactured today. As was pointed out in the video, there is still a big market for sedans.
Porsche should sue them for copying the design. That’s 90% Taycan.
Ford's definitely trying to secure a investment / partnership
The main problem with this car are the brakes. They are fine for average use but the way this car is advertised to be used on track it's dangerous.
How do you know?
can’t tell me the front doesn’t look like a Mclaren artura/720s with the general proportions of a Taycan
Chinese products are far superior in specific fields. Drones, action cameras, soon to be lenses, battery technology, EV cars, the list is very long.
They are already way ahead in battery technology
@@toyotagaz correct, including solar technology and all the technologies that branch from that. In addition, they own the factories and highly skilled workers to actually manufacture. The West really needs to wake up.
Headlamps copied from the McLaren…
You haven't understood this for the longest. You hate on EVS!
Far;ey’s comments were directed to DC.
I can’t wait till you do a video about the scout design. Please be next.😢
They stole McLaren headlights
Great preview of Chinese cars! It is pronounced as "Siaomi", there is no "Ch")
It seems like Xiaomi stock can't be bought through my broker.
If they partner with Ford, they'll need to be at least twice as large as they are now to keep up with American demand. Looks like I'll miss out on this opportunity this time.
why over 90% people just care about how it look, is that the most important factor.
The front looks like a McLaren 720s
I love that purple interior 💯😈
Yeah they deco paid him millions for that endorsement
I must say Chinese cars are really good as a consumer product. However, a car should be something you want to "fall in love with" and not just "survive" living with it. I had a Lynk &co 01 SUV (Volvo and Geely love child) with the best technology from both and 10 years warranty, used it for 1 year / 30K miles, such good product, build qualtiy was even up there with the best of Europe yet I traded it for an Alfa Romeo Giulia. I know how these are built, the downgrade was evident but it had something I can't explain that made it a my car not just a product that takes me from point A to B.
Oh so we can’t get a sedan or hatch from them but they’re still worth it?
Xiaomi is a chinese tech company known for their Android phones fyi.
Temu Taycan
yeah it looks a lot like the tycan , then why didnt people by the tycan???
Porsche Taycan for the cheap 😂please bring it over here and force American companies to compete
This design is obviously a strategy but I really distain it
I'm from Michigan, most my family has more recently worked for GM, but i am unbaised. Ford has many flaws but they take the world market more seriously and if and when can apply it to domestic market, great!, but first the world, any amount of looking at "Ford" tells you that, he isn't saying it for no reason.
I would drive this over the McLaren GT lol
I mean air suspension, adaptive dampers and at a price of 30k its a stupid to not like it
Make videos on restomods already!!🙃
Check out the cars Hu makes too
Seen it in the flesh its look like 2 time the price it is, but be wary of the brakes from what ive seen they use smaller brakepad for the horsepower they have which cause brake fatigue. The driving assit also isnt is good as their competitors. Zeeker,geely and chery product are better choices
Farley needs to go. Absolute traitor to the company. So many other people who actually like Ford could be in charge instead.
You need to talk about the BYD seal, very very stuning chinese car
In China, these two are what I'm most fed up with.
The Xpeng Mona M03 is a great looking sedan as well.
It is Porsche Taycan wannabe.
That's a fact. Only Chinese can produce EV's...even though im not an EV fan at all. Look better than Peugeot or Mercedes. I think only Renault and Skoda will survive on EU EV market and for US Tesla unless they all partner up.
Chinese can't win the ICE engine race, but EV is their game.
Its a car with a battery in it..there all the same
Taycan body, 720s lights
Thank you china
Merk HP gw 😂
HAHAHAAH 720S grafted on front blahhhhg
These cars are deathtraps
Source: China Observer, David Zhang, etc
those all are fantasy channels.
lolol they're a part of the 5bill. america passing a bill of 5billl for anti Chinese propaganda. what those TH-camrs say are utterly bs just visit china once and you'll understand
hopefully this will make ford getting their s"""t together. * cough cough* the new awful capri...
Acura Tayclaren
Yea but didn't Musk say that Tesla's patents are free to all competitors?
Which doesn't matter now as Teslas aren't competitive anymore.
GTA Taycan
I'm the only one who doesn't like it aparently.
They're trying to get China to specialize in cheap EV garbage thats affordable to import so we can focus on the better stuff. I'd still rather buy Mexican tbh 😂 Jesla when???
The Chinese are copycats. 🤷♂️
Apple failed big time let’s just be honest
I hate this car with a passion. It’s just a copy of the Taycan. Nothing original about it
You couldn't convince me to drive a CHOW ME or not clown on you for propping that market up
This company is no joke. I remember when I used to love tech videos I would watch Xiaomi phone reviews and Samsung and Apple were in BIG trouble. Then Trump came and banned their phones.
They don't need anyone "propping them up" the sad boomer take of ignoring Chinese companies making superior products is what's killing our market.
@@WaveManMike I am not at all interested in using a Chinese phone and even less interested on buying a Chinese EV just because the same company makes "good" Chinese phones... Quite frankly Apple has one job as it is and I don't even think they're very good at it. An "Apple Car" is nowhere near my to-do list.
@@Bern_il_Cinq you realize that an Apple car would absolutely Destroy the competition right? Brand recognition that rivals Toyota from a company more capable than Tesla.
An Apple car would send the car industry at least 5 years into the future.
Why not have a real competition that can potentialy make cars affordable again ????????
They're not known for their safety regulations. Lets see if this can be a turning point for them
No these are garbage. If you check out Chinese socials these cars are everywhere for the wrong reasons.
Solid job by Ford in picking their west-wing management. The problem with Chinese EVs is the build quality consistency, electrical fires and reliability...you couldn't pay me to drive one.
Thank God it's a Ford! I was worried McLaren had sold out like Ferrari😒
That Taycan ripoff has been a disaster for the company , you're a little late to the party my guy 👎 from me, keep championing the downfall of ford 😂 pre-sales of $100,000 units before they were even delivered literally means nothing, are you new ? Like wtf are you talking about lmao same thing happened with the Tesla cybertruck 4 years ago 😂🤦 unsubscribing from this propaganda
I had a xiaomi phone. They make excellent products very good performance at the cheapest price. i hope ford partners with xiaomi we need good ev sedans i am sick of overpriced ugly suvs and trucks
I agree. There's a tremendous opportunity in the United States for two things - affordable small cars, and well designed mid sized and large sedans. I loathe SUVs and Crossovers.
I wouldn't be worry to much with these cheap Chinese ev... they're so cheap for a reason by cutting to much costs on quality build etc... and that's never a good idea when it comes to efficiency and safety
There should not be any tarrifs ........why do we the tax payers have to protect and bail out these NA big 3 ?
sound great on paper.... unfortunately it doesn't work the way you think