HOW DROPSY AFFECTED KOI PONDS SHOWAS HEALTH BUT WHAT CAN I DO ABOUT IT?**🤔BLANKET WEED IS ALSO BACK😠
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
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This week I get back from a holiday to find my Showa has Dropsy, but what can i do about it 😮🤔
Only away for 10 days and find the Showa in a right mess.. Everything in the pond was fine before I left so why did this happen?🤔🤔
Also I find that Blanket weed has come back while I was away and needs dealing with ASAP.. Before it makes it to the bottom drain and causes a blockage.
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Feel your pain, just got back from hols and checked pond, bad smell and my biggest fish (shiro utsuri) jumped out and was dead. Gutted..
Lesson learned, water had got a bit high through rain, no trickle drain, managed to get out the side..
What a nightmare.. I had a Utsuri jump out just a week after putting it in the pond (@£600).. Every day is a school day...😲😲
So sorry for your loss its very sad & emotional (even with a fish)...i had a similar type of experance (not gone quite as long as yourself)...I had went to an old friends house that I hadn't seen in over a year & spent the hole day there 12/14 hours & the next morning when i got up from my bed to check on my koi/ goldfish,(like evey morning)one of my favorite 6inch shubunkin goldfish was floating, i have no idea what happend... I've had "ALL" my pond fish for over five years now, with nothing ever happing like this before...😢😢😢 it was very emotionally sad!,,,,
There are so many ups and downs in this hobby. Its one of the challenges we face managing live fish that can be difficult to know why they sometimes dont make it... Every day is a school day.. ;)
ah guttted mate. a very nice fish too. you can guarantee something always happens while your away . i was the same. fingers crossed for the other fish buddy
Thanks for that...👍
sad for you and so sorry even if you lose any fish but it always seems to be a special one.
Absolutely gutting mate, this hobby is truly heart wrenching sometimes but remember so rewarding other times!
Sorry for the loss, know the feeling and hoping that the other fish are ok going forward. Thank you for the insight it what causes the issues.
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Sad video to have to make , sorry for the loss .
Absolutely fecking gutted for you Andy buddy 😪😪😪🧁👍👍👍
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I feel your pain,such a shame. 😢 I’m on the start of my journey in being a koi carp hobbyist. I lost two in the first 5 weeks,much research and treatments after I’ve managed to maintain and recover the quality and health of my final two,so fingers crossed 🤞🏼 your channel has been such a big inspiration. Much appreciated keep up the good content.
Hiya, welcome to pond keeping. So pleased the videos have been helpful.. much appreciated mate...😉👍
Go do something else buddy is bloody gut wrenching go and grow scarecrows . .
really sorry to hear the news :(
its so hard when you do so much to ensure your fish have everything they need.
I often see us with great water quality, good food, no overpopulation etc etc. always seem to have issues :(
while others have a cheap pump, liner 100 fish and its all ok lol......
to top it off we just treated cloverleaf too and I think its bunged my bottom drain as the nexus flow is right down lol.....
fingers crossed it all improves for us both.
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I am watching your video while i am away on holiday and i am cringing at what might be happening at my pond. I left my auto feeder on for the week. I feel really bad for you. That was your nicest fish (i am a showa lover). Good luck with the other fish.
I must admit, I'm glad I didn't find out about it while I was on holiday.. Your better not knowing and wrecking your holiday you've been saving for all year..
Its never easy loosing a fish but thanks for sharing and reminding us how easy and unexpected it can happen and all we can do is our best
What a nightmare Andy…. So sorry you lost your Showa mate. Nothing you could mate.
As you say, it really advanced in a fairly short time mate, and as you say, generally little you could do to save it with dropsy. 😢
Gutted for you we’ve all been here and your right it’s always the big ones . I lost a 25year old purachina big fish no signs of illness and no marks she just got lethargic and the. Within days she was gone
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I'm so sorry that you lost the Showa, he was gorgeous. I haven't got Koi but I have goldfish and shubunkins. I had a visit from the heron and it took my favourite boy and more!!!! Anyway take care and lots of love XX
Herons are a pain and can be so persistent... sorry to hear ones taken some of your fish. Have you managed to create any defences..
So sorry for your loss
Oh hell Andy really really sorry , like ya say its always the favs , chin-up and keep going 😁
Thanks for that. Will do cheers..😉👍
Sorry to hear this sad news Andy 😢
😢 sorry for your loss Andy never nice to losing a fish let alone one of your favourites 😢
Gutted Andy always the good ones 👍🏻
Sorry to hear about the Showa mate. I lost a load of fish in 2019 through dropsy. Bloody nightmare, fish looked like sodding pineapples.
Can hear it in your voice and see it on your face how that’s knocked you mate
Like in any situation like this being fish or other pets it’s very saddening it’s happened to most of us
Keep your chin up you’ve a lovely pond and enjoy all your videos especially with your sense of humour
And just like to say all ponds should have a Showa and a Kohaku
Thanks for that mate.. 👊👍
Sorry for your loss mate I would be gutted if I lost mine its one of my biggest fish at 50cm and it feed from my hand
sorry about you koi mate, I Lost a couple this year had for over 10 years never a good time ,,
I feel your pain mate. We put so much time and effort in to the ponds with the fish being our pets...
Mate, so sorry you lost your Showa, beautiful fish it’s a real sickener. Put a downer on coming back from your holiday. It’s just really bad luck and timing. Chin up Andy👍👍
Thanks for that.. 😉 👍
Gutted for you, buddy. We had fish start out with dropsy, which led to a blood born bacterial infection that wiped every koi out had to empty the pond scrub and clean multiple times and start afresh fingers crossed we are back up and running and all seem OK.
Thank you. Wow sounded like you went through it and then some.. 😳 ☹
Is your return pipes below water level. With your style filter it gives high levels of nitrogen. It's should go to a shower or waterfall
Yes my return pipe if below water level. I have looked at shower or waterfall but space is at a premium around my pond..🤔👍
Really gutting. Such a beautiful fish as well 😢
Gutted for you Andy, as you said it’s always our favourite fish that things happen to 😢
Gutted mate 😮 not what you want on your return 😢 it’s always the best ones mate. So gutted for you mate 😢 💔💔💔💔💔❤️🩹
So sorry for your loss Andy. Not nice at all. Keep going mate, it can be just one of those things. My experience these things come and jump out at you without notice sometimes. 😢
Thanks for that. Yeah right out of the blue mate...😲☹
Sad video Andy 😢
Sorry to hear about your Showa.
It always happens when you're away. We recently lost our Sturgeon whilst we were away for a long weekend. Turned out to be a PH crash 🙄
Hope you're well, considering.
Thanks for that. I hate making these kind of videos, but I believe it's important to show the good and the bad so everyone can learn from them and expect tragedy from time to time.. Hope your well..😉👍
@@KoiPondLifestyle Totally agree.
I'm good thanks. I'm remembering to FOK the pond regularly these days 👀
Never good to lose a fish, but when it's one of your best it sucks even more. Onward and upwards I'm sure you will battle on. Blanket answer for your blanket weed problem
Had a fish with dropsy was swollen I had done scraps and all sorts trying to find out what was going on I then realised it could be a bacterial problem tried some not labs bacterad and within a week it was fine again swelling had gone and it’s still alive today doing well such a shame bud
Wow you were lucky there.👍. usually dropsy is the beginning of the end..😲
Always sad losing a fish but it’s now also important to consider the rest.
Have you thought about dosing the pond with Virkon to try and reduce any potential bacteria?
Possibly a double dose of one per 500 gallons and then one per thousand for the next few weeks!
Prevention is always better than cure!
Hiya, I am looking into that today..👍
Big shout out Andy you were not on your own I saw this video pop up, we where away with really bad phone signal so only just got round to the video. We came home today after 10 days away in our caravan, Iv come home to blanket weed like Iv never seen before this bad and also a dead fish it was ok yesterday as it’s on cctv but looks very bloated and nothing showing on a scrape, this was a young koi 2 years approximately, this was a ghost koi. Has started to eat out on my hand a few weeks ago.
It doesn’t get any easier.
Ones against sorry for your loss but we need to see more of your dog!! We also got a Labrador who loves to watch the fish!!
Hiya, thanks for that feedback. I'm hearing of so many other pond keepers having the same issues, I'm wondering why so many... Really sorry to hear about your fish.. My Lab (The Bear) just follows me around, so he gets on the videos quite often. I'm sure you'll be seeing more of him in future videos..😉👍
@@KoiPondLifestyle it’s strange how it’s happening, I’m sure it ones of these that’s comes around every so often.
My lab is the same she my best friend after the wife and kids!!
We got her when I was recovering from a brain tumour. So spent a lot of time together. She really is my world and was there when I needed her the most for support.
They know when you need it and you know when they do as well. If only people where the same at times! Did you get to the koi fair at Newark this year?
With us being away didn’t get only from Lincoln and is about 1/2 hour max to get to for me so definitely going next year
@DiggingwithDallas No I didn't go to the show. I think I'll start to look a bit deeper into the issues we are having, or is it because I raised it we are hearing more about it? 🤔🤔
So sorry for your loss Andy never easy losing one
very sad...sorry to hear about this. Never had it and hope I never do. If you find a replacement then maybe to koi shop will hold it over winter ?
Thanks for that. Yeah maybe there's one and could be held until spring??🤔😉🍻
Sorry your showa didn't make it thanks for sharing this its not easy
Its never good to see one of our fish with Dropsy, i lost one of my fish a long time back and in the end had to "deal" with it for a final solution..Any way -Looks a nice place on your holidays where did you go ?
Last year i had a disaster of my own whilst on holidays....
So second day in i notice that all my electrics had turned of on my pond, ok it was the float switch that was in place just incase water levels dropped,which they hadnt, the fish just like to play with it and inadvertantly bobed it and turned the power off, so i asked a neighbour to pop round and give the float switch a little shake then drop it back in.
So as they dint have the house keys they lifted a fence panel and went through to my garden, gave the float a shake and it sparked, indoing so tripped the electrics in the house (secureity cameras went off so told me the electric had tripped) now i had a fridge freezer in the house defrosting and a freezer in my shed defrosting!!
My youngest daughter who came away on holiday with us had the key (and alarm fob) to my house but had forgotten to give the key to my oldest daughter before we went away, so i had to organise a locksmith on a sunday night in Turkey to go and drill my daughters lock so the other daughter could get the key (and alarm fob) to my house thus enter and turn off the alarm (monitored) and reset the trips.
This little escapede cost me £300 for the locksmith, one very long phone call to the alarm company to explain that the alarm might go off and to NOT phone the police (god help us if they did!!) alll whilst about to go in to a 3-4 day bout of being unwell due to food poisoning, a new float switch and pea green water as my pond was out in full sunlight!
FML!
Cape Verde, Boa vista. One of our bucket list holidays we've wanted to for a while..👍👍
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So sorry Andy, always upsetting loosing a Koi, not much can be done with dropsy, probably had liver failure, hope all goes well from now, best wishes, Tony😀
Hiya, thanks for that. Fingers are crossed its isolated to just one fish. But it had to be the Showa. .🤨☹
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Onwards and upwards fella, look at the positives now not the negatives. I've just got back from two weeks away and it looks like my feeder became blocked, poor things nearly bit my hand off when I fed them!! Plus side, the water clarity looks amazing and the filter isn't full of shit !! The glass is minging tho! If you want another Showa, please look at Adam Byer's Showa, they are stunning, I have two and they are gorgeous 😍
Hiya, I agree, onwards and upwards.. Sounds like your feeder issue turned into a positive then. I'd class that a result..👊😉👍
Hi mate l am so sorry that you have lost your Showa when watching your videos l always looked for him he was a lovely koi l loved the markings to has you said why do we always lose hour best koi first any way so sorry mate
Thanks for that. 👍
Sorry that you have lost your koi. Yes it is a terrible shame.
that went bad fast so sorry it was a lovely koi
Sad. We also lost a Gin Kuhaku this year. It came on in a few days, swelling up. I kept it in 1.5 oz per gallon salt bath for a month, it initially slowed down the symptom, but did stop the cause. I eventually had to admit defeat and do the double dose of Koi Calm.
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Poor Fish, what a shame.
Sorry to see Andy , it never rains eh , a good informative video though , in all the bad there’s good to come out of it , we are all more informed because of your video pal , thaanks and sorry
Just got back from holiday ourselves. This video was like watching what we have gone through over the last 2 weeks.
Confirmed bacterial infection in the pond ( by lab) Had to euthanise 1 on the morning we left. Definite signs of dropsy with bloating and raised scales. Lost a further 2 in the first week. Both were receiving treatment and appeared to be on the mend ( I was happy to leave them)
Second week, I logged into our pond camera and was surprised to see something floating. Sent my Dad round, and he confirmed it was dead. Signs of bloating and a small sore, barely visible in the pics he sent.
I had done everything as you had in preparation. Even invested in a camera to oversee the pond working daily. Auto feeder turned right down to barely nothing. All pumps, airlines, feeder, camera, lights, all controllable from my sunbed 4000 miles away, and still lost 3 fish!
I have an appointment with an aquatic/tropical vet on Tuesday. Hopefully to get some treatment for the bacterial problem.
OMG.. I'll keep everything crossed for you. Please let me know how you go on with the vet. I've spoken to my local Koi dealer and decided not to start treating the pond fornthe time doing, but to monitor the remaining fish. 🤔👍
Sorry for your loss,how would you treat your koi ,if you found dropsy ,before koi bloated,thanks
Never tired it but, I've been told that if caught early enough, Isolate, salt baths and slowly raised temps and injections of some sort of antibiotics have worked for others in the past...🤔🤔🤔
iTS coming WINTER temp drop to 8C tonight very cold out. At the moment the signals are pointing towards a La Niña based Autumn and winter. A La Niña Autumn and Winter would lead to an unsettled and cooler Autumn with areas of low pressure moving in off the Atlantic to affect the United Kingdom.
The winter period, or at least the start of winter would more than likely bring much colder weather ice and heavy snow.
So a time to consider a new type or a new idea of a pond covering.
That could make winter very interesting..🤔🥶🥶😲
I always put fish into a soak of bicarbonet soda for a few days some times it works some it does not.
Not easy Andy , loosing any fish always the favourite or longest in the pond , I have had the worst season in 18 years of keeping koi , lost 12 to bacterial breakout, tried everything,had to put a few out of there misery infection gone so bad , but I'll carry on , Always enjoy your video's and your great sense of humour, you'll get a new Showa , good luck from Dublin
Sounds like you've had the season from hell. Bacterial issues are so hard to deal with, I'm just hoping my decision to put the Showa back in doesn't bite me on the ass...🤔🤔
That's a real bummer. What a shame, dropsy is very rarely cured.
Feel for ya pal never nice
A sad loss of a nice Showa. I wouldn't ever ask anyone else to feed my koi whist I'm away. Koi can survive without food for weeks. It's not ideal but far better to have them hungry than to have issues. Nishikoi Clear Waters is the best blanketweed treatment in my opinion, it really works. I wouldn't rush into another purchase just yet, get your water in tip top condition and if it's all good next year look around for a Kohaku then. Good luck.
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Gutting mate, it's never nice losing a fish. Hopefully, there are no more problems and I'm sure you will find a nice replacement kuhaku.
Thanks for that. Couldn't believe it when I checked the pond...☹☹
A recommendation get a quarantine set up you can get them for as much as 200-500 pound. I have had my moneys worth out of mine 100% saved 3 out of 4 fish with sever bacterial infections I’m talking huge holes the stuff was eating them all over alive and to show you the fish now you would never of known. The combo that saved ours was salt, acriflavine, and heat.
Sorry for your loss, can be really rough don’t beat yourself up. Love your content. But a hospital set up incase is worth it’s weight in gold honestly.
Hiya, thanks for that and glad your enjoying the videos. Separate tank is definitely one to look into... thanks for the info...😉👍
Gutted for you mate I would virkon the pond just in case
Hiya, I have discussed that with my supplier... We've decided to hold off for a few days and see ..🤔👍
Do you know anything about kio Fish gills plate roll back and will it go back to normal
Hiya, I'm sorry but I've never had to deal with that. Hopefully someone on here will pick up the question you've asked with some experience..🤔
Really sorry for your lose of that koi mate.. but I used to keep them and a few years back now.. and koi up to over a arm lengths long..but don't get me wrong I do love koi carp but I at to give the hobby up because they caused me to much stress constantly worrying about them especially when away on holiday with your loved ones..so the once I came back from a lovely holiday abroad and found by biggest koi in the pond floating the surface a female Chagoi probably close to a metre long in length..but I will continue to watch your vlogs because you make me laugh 😂
Hiya, shame you gave up the hobby. Losing the fish is the worst bit of the hobby but we have to be ready for it. Glad your enjoying the videos..😉👍
My heart bleeds 4ya m8. Ive had a couple of fish go down with dropsy in the past and found theres nothing you can do to save them.
Did you check the water parameters after?
Yes, straight after and all were good. KH was down a little but nothing that would have affected the PH as that was all good as well..
@@KoiPondLifestyle damn. Its horrible when it happens and you've no idea why. It always seems to be your fav aswell don't it. You think of all the ailments humans get. I suppose its sort of the same for fish. It could of had a tumour of some sort for ages and then the dropsy was the second stressor
Not much you can do Andy looks advanced, sorry bud the joys of koi keeping 👍
sad to see mate😢
Just a quick question I found out with my pond it was the water quality going into the pond that would stress the fish out
Really good point that. I've heard a rumour that tha local water company has been increasing the chlorine recently.🤔🤔
@@KoiPondLifestyle on my pond the top pond is 6 ft x 6 ft and is full of plants no fish then it goes down the waterfall to my main pond 15-ft by 15 ft so I think the plants take out all the problems with the water I'm also running Nexus and Dundrum filter which all feedback to the top pond maybe look at your filter system are any of the other fish showing any signs
Non so far. I'm considering treating the pond though, just in case..🤔🤔
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Always the same, the best ones seem to get sick and the ones we would be happy to move on are as tough as nails. Looked more like bacterial infection with how it was bloated. For future,try separating the fish and using a salt solution of 0.06-0.09 max and keep it in for as long as needed. Helps the osmo regulation or water retention in normal speak. Shelled peas also help clear any blockages as they can produce the same look. I would also salt the pond for a week or so,just in case,bit that's me personally and I'm not there to see for myself. So I understand what it's like when it's you and your koi. Hopefully it's behind you now and it's onwards and upwards from here on in🤞 and lastly on the dropsy, there is no definitive answer out there that explains it and like us,I get sick and you don't even when we do all the same things. Murphy's law
Always when we go away 🤬, you going show weekend mate ?
Yeah always when ya not there.. unfortunately nor, after the BKKS banned me don't forget..🤨🤨
@@KoiPondLifestyle o ye naughty boy sorry jokes , I feel your pain right now pal I’m going to send you something through fb messenger to ease your pain 😳🤩
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Gutted for you Andy.
Had a young kujaku with dropsy. Salted pond to 0.6 and over a few weeks came good. Maybe i caught it early 🤷♂️ sorry for ya m8
best fish always its called sods law
Gutted for you. 😢
Thanks for that...👍
Gutted for you. My kohaku died today 😢
Thanks for that. So sorry to hear about your Kohaku...☹
What can I do with my koi that is egg bound help
Hiya, if your 100% sure it's egg bound there is a way to massage the eggs out if the fish, (I couldn't advise this method as never done it), but the fish should absorb the eggs if it doesn't sporn for whatever reason.. If your fish is looking bloated it could be for number of reasons... I've not intervened with any of my fish that look bloated in the past and let nature take its course. Good luck with your fish and hope it recovers from whatever it has..🤞👍
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Dropsy ….. put any fish down humanely with clove oil or Kusuri sedate dropsy is sadly deadly
Sone goldfish fanciers abd breeders claim to have fixed it with interpet bacterial I’m not so sure Thu
hi not nice but its live.
can you not look back video camera and see diverense happend at te pond
I thought about looking at the CCTV but couldn't see anything with the covers on. I might have another look though to see if anything triggered from above..🤔👍
I reckon it was due to it getting injured somehow, as you have mentioned others that would have led to other fishes getting dropsy, but they didn't . had to be someone that is singular, injury broken scales infection
Doesnt look like dropsy. It is a very bad infection causing inflammation. Dropsy does not look like this.
Really need a hospital tank for this situation. I've saved 3 fish with dropsy in the past, 20c, Acriflavine and 6ppt salt did the trick.
Yeah I agree. That is a luxury I don't have though..🤔
@@KoiPondLifestyle Maybe one of those cheap temporary pools as a backup? I'm in a lucky position where my pond is at my garden centre, inside the cafe greenhouse (7,000 gallons). I have loads of space and a polytunnel with a grow on tank and hospital tank in it. Obviously that's a massive luxury most people don't have.
Bad news bud . My pond has been a mess this year 4 deaths . Nitrite is a nightmare, can't get my water quality sitting right don't know what I'm doing wrong
This hobby certainly tests us. Have you tried dropping your feeding right off and only feeding to water test results. Cutting right down on feed should reduce the waste that creates the Nitrite..🤔😉👍
@@KoiPondLifestyle Ano I'm going to have to feed far less again for a bit . Yeah it some hobby that's for sure
Sorry mate it is distressing when you lose a fish, but I afraid as you know it’s part of the hobby the worst part to be honest.
Yeah, every day is a school day..
Gutted for you chin up . Remember the Fock.😊.......
Hay look to a brighter side of the water pond....! Have you done a filter flush just in case ? Or put in nt labs anti parasite. For 5 days to boost and protect the otherz ..?
Onwards an upwards I think.. gotta give the filters a good cleaning.😉👍
sorry mate for the lost. I think the peson that feeds the koi while you where away put his unclean hands in the water. Bac unther the nails are most likely the cost of it
All I can say is that you have been picked on, I can't believe that you have been kicked out and no one else, more than you were using gopro cameras, are they going to band
Fish keeping, when it's good it's really good, but when it's bad, it's a bloody nightmare, in my opinion dropsie needs to be caught really early, placed in warm water and salt, no feeding for at least two weeks, and kept in a separate water system and filter, as it's quite catching. Sorry for your loss mate.😢