FINALLY, a Linux laptop with NO TRADEOFFS! Tuxedo InfinityBook Pro 14 Gen7 Review

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    00:00 Intro
    00:22 Unboxing
    02:04 Design & Build Quality: solid and beautiful
    03:49 Specs & Configuration Options: make it your own
    06:17 Display: good panel, not a fan of the resolution
    07:28 Keyboard & Touchpad: excellent
    08:27 Webcam, Mic & Speakers: decent
    09:36 Performance & battery life: all day workstation
    11:36 This is the template for all Linux laptops
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    The chassis is a magnesium / aliminium alloy. It's really sturdy, but also really lightweight. My review unit came in black, and retains no fingerprints. You can also get it in silver if you prefer. In both cases, it's 1.7cm thick, and 1.3kg.
    The laptop can be opened, and upgraded, you can switch out the RAM and the SDD as you like, with dual channel RAM slots, and an m.2 slot that supports PCIe4 drives.
    My review unit came with a french azerty keyboard, but they have a lot of different layouts, and you can even send them your own to be laser etched, or have a blank keyboard. The super key has a cartoony tux logo, but you can ask for you own super key as well.
    You can add an Nvidia RTX 3050ti to turn the laptop into a real workstation. In terms of ports, on the left side, you get the usual kensington lock, a USB C 3.2 Gen 2 port, which supports display port 1.4 and power delivery, a USB A 3.2 Gen 1 port, a full size SD card reader, and a 2 in 1 audio jack.
    On the right, you have the barrel charging port, an HDMI 2.0b port, a USB 3.2 Gen 1 port, and a thunderbolt 4 port, which also supports display port 1.4 and power delivery.
    The display is a 3K panel, at 2880 by 1800, in a 16:10 aspect ratio. It's 14 inch, and has an anti reflective coating.
    It covers 99% of sRGB, 74.7% of AdobeRGB, and 81.1% of DCI-P3. It goes up to 400 nits, the contrast ratio is 1500:1, and it runs at 90hz.
    The keyboard feels really good. It's a chiclet style keyboard, with black keys, whether you have the black, or the silver variant. It's backlit, and has a tux super key that you can customize, as I said before.
    The touchpad feels awesome, it's super smooth, covered in glass, and it's a joy to use with gestures, it's precise and responsive, and it clicks well.
    The webcam goes up to 1080p30, and while it will need some amount of light to not be too grainy, it's far from the worse I've seen.
    The microphone is a bit better. You'll need to lower the default gain, but the voice is clear, and you can't really hear fan noise, although it will pick up on touchpad clicks and keyboard presses. It's really not bad for a laptop mic.
    As per the speakers, they're bottom firing, and they're also decent. They're not tinny, they don't distort at high volumes, and they get loud enough. Nothing fancy, but they do the trick perfectly for a youtube video or a movie.
    The 12700H is a very powerful CPU, with 14 cores, and 20 threads, and a max frequency of 4.7Ghz. On geekbench 5, it gets 1781 in single core, and 8388 in multi core, which means it beats my desktop 5800H in single core, and gets extremely close in multi core.
    browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/...
    It's cooled with a dual fan system, with 2 fans and 2 heatpipes, and uses liquid metal, which means temps never got high, staying at around 40 degrees Celsius at idle, and about 80°C under heavy load.
    In terms of battery life, I got around 7 and a half hours of youtube video playback in a loop over wifi, at 50% brightness with bluetooth on. With a more regular workload of web browsing, listening to music, writing this script, and watching the occasional video or running a test or 2 on the laptop, I got 9h.
    Review of the 16 inch model (the equivalent model from SLimbook): • The laptop I SHOULD HA...
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  • @TheLinuxEXP
    @TheLinuxEXP  ปีที่แล้ว +83

    What do you think of this little beast? What do you think Linux laptops are missing?

    • @vedfj4279
      @vedfj4279 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      ...AMD Option! Great product and review either way! Thank you Nick

    • @dr.nihilus2632
      @dr.nihilus2632 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      International shipping! That's what this specific company lacks, sadly.

    • @Milecarful
      @Milecarful ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think that CPU is a tradeoff - too powerful for most stuff you'd do on a laptop, hurts the battery and is not an AMD CPU. Based on the price, it doesn't even beat the XPS, which is a terrible laptop. And it certainly does not beat the pricier X1 Carbons, Thinkpads or Precisions even if you ignore the Intel CPU.
      It is nice, but there are quite a few tradeoffs.

    • @DryPaperHammerBro
      @DryPaperHammerBro ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A mechanical keyboard

    • @formbi
      @formbi ปีที่แล้ว +7

      the keyboard from old thinkpads

  • @user-nu5ib2ri9o
    @user-nu5ib2ri9o ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This thing is in the class of its own, with a desktop-like CPU, battery/weight ratio and

  • @defnlife1683
    @defnlife1683 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The ONE tradeoff is that it only has the ability to use NVIDIA GPU from the store. AMD would probably be more flexible considering how NVIDIA treats linux and BSDs

    • @danielmiller1826
      @danielmiller1826 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For high end gpu on Linux use the most common use might be VFX and unfortunately most of the software is Nvidia not AMD optimised.

    • @defnlife1683
      @defnlife1683 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@danielmiller1826 yeah. Shame really. Hopefully things change.

    • @milowagnitz7310
      @milowagnitz7310 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It‘s more how Linux trades Nvidia. If they wouldn‘t try to play their ideology game and would just accept that companies are not interested in their GPL shit, the driver situation on Linux would maybe be better

    • @defnlife1683
      @defnlife1683 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@milowagnitz7310 linux doesn't "bully" poor old nvidia. there's black box firmware for drivers in a lot of apps and cards that work just fine on linux. nvidia just doesn't make a lot of their stuff compatible with linux
      but, talking about the gpl, what happens when you open up the drivers? looking at the past (mantle for example) you actually unleash 50% more performance that was being destroyed by inefficient bloatware.
      but, talking about ideology: if you like not owning the things you pay for, getting forced updates that make your card slower, bloated blackbox firmware, built in backdoors, monopoly pricing, etc. then fine. that's your choice bro.

    • @VNActivityProjectRem
      @VNActivityProjectRem 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@milowagnitz7310 nobody forces anyone to do anything. nVidia historically have tried to lock their own hardware down to prevent open source developers from writing drivers for their graphics cards, which effectively lock everyone out of using them without their proprietary drivers. That's a pretty nasty move, regardless of how you look at it

  • @vladimirdelima2519
    @vladimirdelima2519 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    TUXEDO is making itself THE standart linux experience on a laptop.
    It's very exciting to see brands like tuxedo or system76 offering the combo hardware+software for linux.
    now it need just to improve price and availability worldwide.
    Congrats for the video, as always so informative and exciting!

    • @sujeewa8067
      @sujeewa8067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly!

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Tom Smith they actually do a lot of work to get it to work well out of the box. For instance, there's this one bug with Nvidia drivers, so they actually spent a lot of time getting in touch with Nvidia and sending laptops and debugging information to Nvidia, and they got the bug fixed. They really optimize the OS to their hardware.

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Tom Smith The point is they do a lot more than just throw Linux on a prebuilt laptop. There's a lot of digging around the hardware and debugging and recently, even custom builds. For instance, recently they asked their ODM for two cooling fans instead of one, and a more recent AMD CPU then they were originally going to use. It's sort of blurring the line between a pre-built clivo and a custom hardware. It's really exciting to see all the work they do to make sure that you have a fantastic clinics experience on their hardware. Companies like them in system 76 are fantastic, I love to see it.

    • @trs5127
      @trs5127 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If Tuxedo makes itself available in India without having to pay the customs before I get a new laptop, it'll jump to my number 1 consideration and if a good laptop is in my budget, I'll get it 100%

  • @adch9972
    @adch9972 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    I hope Tuxedo does some of the work to set up the defaults on the officially offered distros at least. Fractional scaling is a pain to configure for all apps: native apps, electron apps and browsers can all want their own settings.

    • @federicocucinotta7772
      @federicocucinotta7772 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Is this a problem specific to Tuxedo OS or do other distros have it as well?

    • @24hhhhours
      @24hhhhours ปีที่แล้ว +7

      All distros. It’s the fault of gtk

    • @DMSBrian24
      @DMSBrian24 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@federicocucinotta7772 it's not a tuxedo issue, it's not *really* a linux issue either, it's just a scaling issue, it's very hard to address and even macs suffer from it, which is why they only ship in very specific resolutions, but have issues with a lot of external displays as a result

    • @foss_sound
      @foss_sound ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@24hhhhours Yeah, sux with GTK and GNOME. With KDE (of what I heard) it's not a problem at all. But yea ... it's KDE. That's why I use just a 2K external Display und FullHD internal to use Gnome without glasses.

    • @24hhhhours
      @24hhhhours ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@foss_sound The problem is even if you are running KDE, apps that use GTK will still look horrible. So I dont see why you are mentioning KDE here. Also Gnome under Wayland doesnt have any problems with scalling. It works perfectly. The only problem with Wayland is applications not supporting Wayland. They will run under Xwayland which also look horrible. Overall I hate the situation right now, it's a mess. Both Xorg and Wayland suck. I personally use a 16 Inch notebook with a builtin 3K display. GTK symbols are tiny and have to use **glasses** so see something.

  • @torianjallen
    @torianjallen ปีที่แล้ว +113

    They did a really good job with this one. I hope System 76 starts to make this much effort with their laptop line. Desktops are great, but......

    • @torianjallen
      @torianjallen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 😅 Very true. We gotta push them forward, though.

    • @nevoyu
      @nevoyu ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The problem os that laptops aren't subject to the ATX standard that desktops are.
      Each laptop motherboards as a results is effectively a custom made PCB and there are only so many manufacturers who are willing to work with a company at the scale of System76.

    • @sm_stormzy1075
      @sm_stormzy1075 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 redstar

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 my laptop's headphone jack has unusable static on Linux. Can't use headphones or make music with it. It's a cheap laptop from 2016 but still, that's a but.

    • @nikkoa.3639
      @nikkoa.3639 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 Linux is good but high DPI scaling sucks

  • @mirage809
    @mirage809 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    It does look like a solid little machine. I very much appreciate the 14 inch screen size. It's a nice sweet spot between portability and screen real estate.
    Them allowing you to have your own layout laser etched on the keyboard and the case is super cool. Really allows you to make the machine your own. Linux is known for the option to customize it to taste and it's cool to see this extend to the hardware.

  • @baninabrar98
    @baninabrar98 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your production quality keeps improving. Keep it up!

  • @zenbum2654
    @zenbum2654 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Very impressive system. Looking at their website, I especially like the 16" version. The specs are not quite as good as my M1 MacBook Pro, but it costs $1000 less. And runs Linux natively. If I were in the market today for a developer laptop, this would probably be my first choice.

    • @R0MUl0
      @R0MUl0 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I still prefere the M1 MacBook Pro, it is simply better. Sure, more expensive, but I don't care... Anyway the Tuxedo is not a bad choice too.

    • @sergeiepatov7683
      @sergeiepatov7683 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My cheaper-than-Mac Ryzen9 5900HX laptop is faster than M1/M1 Pro at rather important practical benchmark: linux kernel, gcc, llvm, etc compilation in docker containers. And it runs Linux perfectly. But not from the ground up: some distro hopping and powertop/governor tuning is a must (to be silent and cold at idle).

    • @nemesjs
      @nemesjs ปีที่แล้ว

      @@R0MUl0 what about a 2015 macbook pro like mine that kinda runs slow nowadays..

    • @R0MUl0
      @R0MUl0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nemesjs no, not even a 2018 one, my point is... Performance is important but isn't everything, I would miss de mini-led wide gammut 120hz display, the 6 speaker studio grade sound quality, etc... But I see no problem, many just want performance and for this Tuxedo is great.

    • @DanDascalescu-dandv
      @DanDascalescu-dandv ปีที่แล้ว

      The specs are almost on par with the most powerful MBP, but the InfinityBook Pro 16 weights half a kilo less, and IT FELS. I had both laptops - the MBP feels HEABY at 2147g, while the Tuxedo feels light at 1.5kg. Surprising but true.
      However, the keyboard on the InfinityBook Pro is crap.

  • @JayMoog
    @JayMoog ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really good review. It is nice to see a decent laptop running Linux that does not come with 'issues'. Though I've had lots of 'fun' trying to sort out the mess and inconsistencies of linux GUI apps and subsystems and how well they work with font scaling and high DPI. This continues to be something Linux vendors can't get right, pushing people away. Saying that my old 4K Windows 7 machine did not do a great job of this either.

  • @zettlrobert
    @zettlrobert ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for your review, mine will hopefully arrive soon!

  • @jurgenskrotzky8342
    @jurgenskrotzky8342 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review 🎉
    It helps me to made my decisions of buying the Tuxedo InfinityBook Pro 14 - Gen8.
    Currently I have still to wait until end of May to get it.
    Hope it is as good as the Gen7.
    Thanks for your awesome videos and reviews.
    Cheers, Jorgen

  • @HShango
    @HShango ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looks perfect & I love the matte black/slim look of this baby

  • @cogitator1213
    @cogitator1213 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glückwunsch, Uwe!

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Uwe ist ein verräter, according to my manual

  • @cheebadigga4092
    @cheebadigga4092 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really great! Thanks for the video.

  • @dandumi09
    @dandumi09 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review!

  • @Ma1ne2
    @Ma1ne2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Uwe hat den Wettbewerb gewonnen 😂As one of your German viewers, I very much enjoyed that 😂Clean pronunciation!

  • @firalia
    @firalia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was going to say that the only let-down is the lack of backlighting on the keyboard... But it seems like that's an option on the configuration!
    What a great little laptop. I'm stuck with Windows on my main system for gaming and photo editing, but I think Linux would be absolutely perfect on a thin and light laptop like that. Perhaps I'll consider a Linux laptop if I end up getting a thin and light for class. I'd certainly love to.

  • @nuanda82
    @nuanda82 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, very nice review!

  • @illes79
    @illes79 ปีที่แล้ว

    great review. I'd like to know if the CPU thermal throttles under 100% load? and how loud can get the fan noise ?

  • @codingcocoon
    @codingcocoon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Nick, just dropping back in here to say after this review I cancelled my order for the StarLabs StarBook Mk 6 to this one, I've had it a week now and really love it. I waited and waited for StarLabs but I think they were pretty unrealistic about completion and delivery times, so their product run wasn't ready for mass market in my opinion. Tuxedo on the other hand got me their machine in a little under 4 weeks.

  • @slembcke
    @slembcke ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Price aside, that does look like a very nice machine. If my 10th gen Lemur didn't have a few more years of life in it, I would totally be considering this one.

  • @digitalage2010
    @digitalage2010 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks awesome

  • @JasonOickle
    @JasonOickle ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for actually taking the laptop apart this time! :) It's too bad they handicapped performance by keeping it in single channel mode with only 1 stick of ram.

  • @Tentcl
    @Tentcl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd love to hear more about the Linux on-board. What distro it comes with, how is the situation with the drivers.

  • @circleofowls
    @circleofowls ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review! I'd love for System76 to send you one of their laptops for a comparison. Tuxedo looks like a very solid choice though.

  • @pro100kekc
    @pro100kekc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    also got this beauty like a month ago. I can say I am really happy with it. It does have problem with xorg display drivers. After having POP OS installed, i could not switch resolution, so had to stick with ubuntu...

  • @AnzanHoshinRoshi
    @AnzanHoshinRoshi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, Nik. Better and better.

  • @kbaeve
    @kbaeve ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Happy to see battery is getting somewhat decent, finally. That's by far the biggest bummer coming from Mac to Linux

    • @kbaeve
      @kbaeve ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 what you mean? I just did that and the 16" m1 max is a total monster in all departments and maybe even especially the battery

    • @kbaeve
      @kbaeve ปีที่แล้ว

      @@terrydaktyllus1320 lol

  • @abubua8781
    @abubua8781 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice audio spectrum show analyzer - which program are you using ?

  • @HowToLinux
    @HowToLinux ปีที่แล้ว

    what a dream, when i will need a new laptop, I will definitely consider them if the product quality stays or increases.

  • @himabimdimwim
    @himabimdimwim ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Woah 😲 This is the year of the Linux desktop! 🖥️

  • @seanrileyhawkins4511
    @seanrileyhawkins4511 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely putting this one on my wishlist

  • @megagurka
    @megagurka ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks great, but I'm probably more interested in the 16" version. Do you plan to review that unit?

  • @fabs.5597
    @fabs.5597 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great video! That machine looks really nice. Even nicer to see that you're Brestois 😅 Merci et bravo!

  • @ChrisSum.
    @ChrisSum. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your German pronunciation is actually really good

  • @HeinekenLasse
    @HeinekenLasse ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't know about this brand, thanks for sharing.

  • @jercarpenter2398
    @jercarpenter2398 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's ALMOST perfect. I really want to buy this laptop, but there is no ANSI keyboard layout for it. They had an ANSI version of their Gen6, but that's no longer available with a discrete nVidia card.

  • @NicoCoetzee
    @NicoCoetzee ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I bought the TUXEDO Pulse 15 - Gen2. I went full out: 64GB Ram and 2x SSD's. I requested Kubuntu to be pre-installed.
    Very happy with just about everything! The keyboard is not the best, but I should mention I come from a 2012 Mac Book Pro, so it's probably a little unfair 🙂
    Anyway, this is my private daily driver now and has very little issues (some KDE specific issues - but the hardware is perfect!).
    The service from Tuxedo is absolutely great. I am in the Netherlands so sending it over was no issues. The Laptop build takes some time, but they do keep you updated through the process. I waited just over a week.
    Edit: I should add I work mostly on the Logitech Mechanical Wireless Keyboard and Logitech MX Mouse. They paired with the Laptop perfectly and the battery levels are reflected in KDE with low battery warnings working as well.

    • @deadlinerhorus
      @deadlinerhorus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      KDE5 does evolve greatly, especially Dolphin File Browser and the Notifications for File Operations mit Bandwith-Speeds etc. is always handy!

    • @DanDascalescu-dandv
      @DanDascalescu-dandv ปีที่แล้ว

      The keyboard is dumb. They use the stupid ISO layout, when most of the world uses ANSI. Also, there's no separation between F4/F5 or F8/F9. All keys are squished together and too narrow, because they wanted a half-assed numpad. The arrow keys are not separated from the rest, so I had to look at where they were all the time.
      ThinkPads are renowned for their legendary keyboards. Why doesn't Tuxedo use that layout?

    • @NicoCoetzee
      @NicoCoetzee ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DanDascalescu-dandv You can choose your keyboard layout.

    • @DanDascalescu-dandv
      @DanDascalescu-dandv ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NicoCoetzee You cannot choose US ANSI, which is the most popular layout in the world. Instead, Tuxedo offers two dozen obscure regional and Dvorak layouts.

  • @Necitero
    @Necitero ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so glad Uwe won that contest - I am sure he really deserved it.

  • @SpookySkeletonGang
    @SpookySkeletonGang ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really glad to see 90hz on more laptops. That or 120hz is the baseline for me now, even on thinner laptops. 16:10 is nice too, though personally I prefer 3:2.

    • @dyfrigshandy
      @dyfrigshandy ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, 75hz is the most optimal, no need higher than that

  • @jesuisjamaiscontent
    @jesuisjamaiscontent ปีที่แล้ว

    What a splendid, high performance and seemingly well made laptop. Should be great for Linux and even for Windows. I like that the spec can be tuned to one's particular needs and that it appears to have been built with repairability in mind.

  • @kelsangsherab131
    @kelsangsherab131 ปีที่แล้ว

    How quiet is it?? How soon before the fan cicks in?
    Thanks for a great review

  • @ericbrunel8933
    @ericbrunel8933 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    And if you're looking for a less compact laptop, they also have a 16" version for pre-order \o/. I tend to prefer this kind of size, since it also means we get a numeric keypad, which is very useful on a French keyboard.

    • @SeanClarke
      @SeanClarke ปีที่แล้ว

      That's good to know. I'd really prefer 17" or bigger.

    • @sergeiepatov7683
      @sergeiepatov7683 ปีที่แล้ว

      Numeric keypad is very useful thing for power users. Tiling shortcuts!

    • @Creativitybias
      @Creativitybias ปีที่แล้ว

      Interestingly it's a little cheaper than the 14' variant. Anyone know why that is?

  • @treyquattro
    @treyquattro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as someone who uses a MacBook Pro running Linux (Debian) this looks like an excellent choice for my next laptop. Thanks for the review!

    • @sergeiepatov7683
      @sergeiepatov7683 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe Asahi Linux GPU development progress will make it great system on Apple SIlicon macs, but... Still no go. Non-removable SSD and limited repairability is show stopper for eco-friendly people buying laptop for a decade of heavy usage.

  • @tokiomitohsaka7770
    @tokiomitohsaka7770 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I am always happy to see 16:10 aspect ratio displays on laptops, as well as an ISO layout, most laptops don’t have these.
    I am interested to see how they implemented their liquid metal contact with the CPU, there are some specific design considerations you need to think about for liquid metal, especially in a laptop. I wonder how it would hold up over-time. I can’t ask you to take it apart because you would have to clean and reapply liquid metal, which can destroy it if you aren’t familiar with it since it is very different from regular thermal paste.

  •  ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw this video suggested a few times and I was like "oh here we go with the clickbait" and I didnt want to watch it. Today I decided to watch it just to leave a bad comment...I was wrong, this is really a linux laptop with no trade offs. amazing work by tuxedo! next step could be to have their own bios like system76? I am really impressed. Thank you for your work

  • @Watchandlearn91
    @Watchandlearn91 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    That screen resolution is perfect and I don't think it should change. Linux distros should be the ones that finally start supporting fractional scaling properly. I know fractional scaling is hard but Windows and macOS do it really well so there is no technical reason that Linux can't too. I know Wayland is a good first step and Gnome and KDE have a good start but there is a lot more to be done there for every DE.

    • @ArniesTech
      @ArniesTech ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ubuntu does a very good Job at that.

    • @Watchandlearn91
      @Watchandlearn91 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ArniesTech Yes because it uses Gnome which, like KDE, is one of the two that really support it better now with Wayland. But if you have a NVIDIA card, you're stuck with X11 which does not have good fractional scaling. Of course, this is Nvidia's fault that you are stuck with X11 so can't really blame anyone but them for that.

    • @federicocucinotta7772
      @federicocucinotta7772 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this a distro or DE level problem? I also never really had issues running Linux on my laptop. The scaling looks perfectly fine to me!

    • @Watchandlearn91
      @Watchandlearn91 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@federicocucinotta7772 Mostly a DE level problem but a lot of the time DEs are associated with distros. For example, Linux Mint develops the Cinnamon desktop environment and pretty much refuses to accept Wayland as a priority. Elementary OS develops the Pantheon DE and refuses to support fractional scaling for pretty weird logic of "fractional scaling doesn't really exist and making it work is too hard so no". Also, distros can choose whether to include Wayland or X11 out of the box with the specific DE and that can also factor in.

    • @sm_stormzy1075
      @sm_stormzy1075 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Watchandlearn91 I use Wayland on Nvidia GPU fine tho?

  • @altrogeruvah
    @altrogeruvah ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The aluminium/magnesium chassis looks pretty solid. Feels like the best Linux laptop, but I'm wondering how the upcoming AMD-based StarFighter will hold up, as it seems to be priced the same.

    • @TheLinuxEXP
      @TheLinuxEXP  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I Hope I’ll get a review unit!

    • @dephekt_
      @dephekt_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just hope they stick with the original 4K screen rather than this QHD high refresh panel they’re considering. I want 4K with integer scaling, none of this fractional nonsense.

  • @cejannuzi
    @cejannuzi ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Linux Desktop really needs the power of manufacturers behind it--like this.

  • @pazu3979
    @pazu3979 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think tuxedo laptops are pretty nice. But I still think the best laptop, even for linux is the framework. It works wonderfully with linux, and the framework team has made all the right choices with their machine.

    • @Tywele
      @Tywele ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wish Framework had laptops with a bit of a larger screen and a higher refresh rate.

    • @leatherhidegaming
      @leatherhidegaming ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Except down firing speakers. I wish all the manufacturers would stop doing that.

    • @Peshyy
      @Peshyy ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Except Framework still isn't available in a lot of European countries while Tuxedo can be ordered with free delivery to most parts of Europe right now

    • @giddycadet
      @giddycadet ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@leatherhidegaming Big top-firing speakers are about the only Macbook thing I genuinely wish my laptop did.

    • @DMSBrian24
      @DMSBrian24 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Peshyy you can already buy it in some european countries like germany which means you can have the parcel forwarded for like 40 euros, of course that's not ideal though

  • @clemradio
    @clemradio ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait to see how this compares to the StarLabs StarFighter!

  • @Falk4J
    @Falk4J 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great and thought through machine. Fore only missing out on a touch screen and a 360 tablet mode. That would be crowning it for me.

  • @Streifenprinz
    @Streifenprinz ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Student i am still using my x260. This tuxedo is - according to specs and Reviews - my current favorite as a successor after i will finish my degree in a few months. Still i have one question about the tuxedo: does it Support battery Charge Limits like my old x260? (95% state of health for the battery after this many years is Something i would want from Machine for 1.600€)

  • @otoktonmusic
    @otoktonmusic ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review man, but please tell me what happened at 3:13 lol

  • @DMSBrian24
    @DMSBrian24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does it provide independent repair shops with board schematics?

  • @rockpickable
    @rockpickable ปีที่แล้ว

    Glückwunsch an Uwe. Der scheint was draufzuhaben.

  • @slavetonone3635
    @slavetonone3635 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you upgrade the gpu video later or is it only done at the order?

  • @CrazyHorse1337
    @CrazyHorse1337 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good device. Was my daily driver for some time.
    But there are also some parts which have potential for improvement.
    For video conferences I highly recommend external microphones and speakers.
    Beside of this, the notebook and Software is really good.
    Updates always worked and I never had any issues.
    Support was really awesome, because speakers where exchanged after some hardware issue.
    No fuck around at all.
    Contacted support and they did their job...

  • @DanoFPV
    @DanoFPV ปีที่แล้ว +6

    TLE: This is the best Linux laptop
    TLE again: THIS is the best linux laptop
    TLE again again: NO. NO FOR REAL GUYS THIS is the best linux laptop.

  • @voldemarz
    @voldemarz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the machine. I would say speakers barely ok, have to keep volume always on max. Also have some weird interference between speakers and wifi, such that sometimes loose audio completely. Will be sending to for warranty service. Also, disapointed it doesn't support S3 sleep. Display remains black after waking, both in Windows and Ubuntu 22.04. S0 / Modern Standby in Windows sucks, got few cases of battery loosing 7-10% per hour.

  • @oevers
    @oevers ปีที่แล้ว

    01:25 Your pronunciation was really good!

  • @fretboardrunner
    @fretboardrunner ปีที่แล้ว

    Huh, I kinda expected longer battery life with that huge 99 Whr battery. Maybe UV/setting a slighty lower TDP would improve this slightly.
    How is noise during light work and e.g. screen sharing?
    Other than the battery life (which is fine but could be slightly better) this would be my perfect work laptop.

  • @raphec
    @raphec ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am looking for a new laptop and this is on my list - but no default Wifi 6E option - I know I can probably install an AX210 card myself, but it would be nice OOB. Also no default Mint option

  • @rohanleander
    @rohanleander ปีที่แล้ว

    Will there be a review of the Tuxedo InfinityBook Pro 16 Gen7?

  • @bibasik7
    @bibasik7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was considering buying this laptop, but they never made a Gen 7 US ANSI edition, so I ended up buying an M1 MacBook Air.
    Don't worry, I still have Linux on my older MacBooks.

  • @seltox6320
    @seltox6320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact they don't sell to Australia (where I am) is a huge bummer.

  • @jierenzheng7670
    @jierenzheng7670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, this is like the dream of the specs we wished we could get from Framework ^^"

  • @elalemanpaisa
    @elalemanpaisa ปีที่แล้ว

    Was Tuxedo the manufactor which is offering open firmware ? or was it the other one?

  • @tomasnorre
    @tomasnorre ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had one off these for 6 months , had to get it repaired 3 times before returning it. Was amazing but a monday model i Think. I really wanted this to be the perfect laptop , but not this time. Consider trying Them again.

    • @mrcvry
      @mrcvry ปีที่แล้ว

      Had the same with Dell. :(

  •  ปีที่แล้ว

    Stunning.

  • @brandonpineda759
    @brandonpineda759 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are they doing Black Friday sales or cyber Monday sales and or can you ask them? It would also benefit them on sales.

  • @federicocucinotta7772
    @federicocucinotta7772 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Incredible laptop, this is exactly what I would be looking for. You mentioned that there is a sport for an M.2 SSD. Do you know if it is possible to use it as a second boot drive? In other words, have Linux on one SSD and Windows on the other? I require having both. I tried researching this and always got somewhat confusing answers...

    • @tenebrae711
      @tenebrae711 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want to, you can just make two partitions on the SSD, one for windows, other for Linux. You can however make them on two separate drives, e.g. 1st SSD for Linux and 2nd for windows

    • @federicocucinotta7772
      @federicocucinotta7772 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tenebrae711 Ah ok thanks! I have tried dual booting before multiple times and always had some problems. Therefore, I'd like to separate the os's in different disks if possible. I tried researching if this was possible and never really found out a concrete answer, so thanks!

    • @thomaswenzl5481
      @thomaswenzl5481 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@federicocucinotta7772 you then would need to buy the storage edition of this notebook, which supports two SSDs, but then also comes with a smaller battery.
      If you buy the notebook from Tuxedo with a dual-Boot Windows configuration, it works like a charme, also on one SSD. (have two SSDs on my Gen6, but dual-Boot from the faster one)

    • @federicocucinotta7772
      @federicocucinotta7772 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomaswenzl5481 So you dual boot on the faster SSD and use the second one simply as storage? Why not use one for Windows and the other for Linux? What are the trade offs?

  • @SimisearOfficial
    @SimisearOfficial 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tuxedo seriously needs to have their laptops have ANSI layout options that are up to date, their ODM's have support for it

  • @arnandegans
    @arnandegans ปีที่แล้ว

    That looks really appealing...

  • @fluffyhamster550
    @fluffyhamster550 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about disabling the Intel Management engine in Tuxedo computers? Is it pre done or do you have to order it before purchasing?

  • @Cuperino
    @Cuperino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With that battery and matte display, it’s better than my Framework!

  • @hbarudi
    @hbarudi ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks good for generic laptop, but there is need for larger display sizes and what about pen and touch and tablet options?

  • @bomcabedal
    @bomcabedal ปีที่แล้ว

    Great machine, but when will these manufacturers finally add a T-shaped arrow key arrangement? Finding these half-height keys by touch can be really finicky, and I use them a LOT. On a MacBook, it's easy.

  • @msthalamus2172
    @msthalamus2172 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm glad you specified that you have to send the laptop back after you complete the review. That isn't necessarily obvious to people who watch these kinds of videos. Knowing that you don't get to keep the hardware you're reviewing makes it easier to believe we're getting an unbiased opinion!

  • @GarrisIiari
    @GarrisIiari ปีที่แล้ว +11

    There are definitely some tradeoffs. Needing to fractional scale is a major headache. I did this with one laptop in the past and won't do that again until fractional scaling with Wayland is better. I wish that they offered the 1920 x 1200 resolution panel they offered in the past. Also, I read that performance is hindered with USB-C charging, that full performance during charging is only with the barrel charger. Finally, 8-11 hrs with this battery is great for a machine of this performance, but I wish they had gone for an Apple killing battery sipping model with a lower resolution screen and an Intel U chip. That would have been world-beating.

    • @T1Oracle
      @T1Oracle ปีที่แล้ว

      Fractional scaling seems to be working fine in Gnome Wayland for me 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @GarrisIiari
      @GarrisIiari ปีที่แล้ว

      @@T1Oracle nice to hear. I think it depends to some degree on the apps one uses.

  • @thanosfisherman
    @thanosfisherman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it noisy? Does it overheat a lot?

  • @shariarrahman7562
    @shariarrahman7562 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would be great if there were a panel that supported pen input

    • @sergeiepatov7683
      @sergeiepatov7683 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not just pen but Wacom pressure- and tilt-sensitive one :) It will be great Blender or Krita station.

  • @dengan699
    @dengan699 ปีที่แล้ว

    When indicating laptop weight, please tell how much the charger weights too ...

  • @SofianMW
    @SofianMW ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks much!

  • @ArniesTech
    @ArniesTech ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a German 🇩🇪 I gladly say that your German Sounds amazingly well 🙏

  • @CreepToeJoe
    @CreepToeJoe ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the subs.

  • @astrival
    @astrival ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Nick!
    Why do you think it is 290 € more expensive than Slimbook Executive 14 with same specs (Intel XE, 16GB, 500NVMe)?

    • @thomaswenzl5481
      @thomaswenzl5481 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven’t looked at a side-by-side comparison in a long time, but when I researched possible options back then, I noticed that with the Slimbook models you often get cheaper components for RAM, SSD drives, etc., which eventually add up. If I configured the Slimbooks very similar to the Tuxedos, there was no real price difference anymore.

    • @astrival
      @astrival ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thomaswenzl5481 What you say is not true, go in and configure the same components, choose the brands. Slimbook is always cheaper.

  • @sergiogalvan9404
    @sergiogalvan9404 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope this version is much better thant the 6 gen. This is a laptop at premium price that feels really cheap. The battery doesn't last more than 2h if you are running containers or doing real work, this could be directly realated to the 3k display. If you reinstanled any operating system you had to remember to add `i915.enable_psr=0` to GRUB.
    The laptop gets extremely hot and the solution is to run a typescript application (tuxedo-control-center) to be able to control the fans. I replaced the battery with a new one after 1 year of having the laptop,, support though was very efficient and helpful but in less than 2 months it dropped the capacity a 15%.
    Luckily I didn't pay for this laptop but a 1600 euros you are far better with any XPS or Thinkpad in regards to durability and Linux. I don't think would choose any other brand (at the current prices) over Dell or Lenovo.

  • @spudhead169
    @spudhead169 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yees but do they support right to repair? Is it easy to service and get spare parts?

  • @mr_wormhole
    @mr_wormhole 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can the thunderbolt port use external screens? 16 inch seems to be doing it but no info about 14 inch model

  • @PreludeSon
    @PreludeSon ปีที่แล้ว

    How was the fan noise?

  • @louisdelossantos6827
    @louisdelossantos6827 ปีที่แล้ว

    May I ask. One of the things I can't take with a laptop is keyboard flex. When you're typing does it feel "cheap" ?

  • @Shabbir-A.
    @Shabbir-A. 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where do I see Contact Us page for Tuxedo on their website?

  • @talkysassis
    @talkysassis ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For a premium tier brand, they should invest in better packaging.

  • @ArniesTech
    @ArniesTech ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would Love to see Tuxedo colab with SuSE GmbH for the ultimate German Trinity Tuxedo + SuSE + KDE 💪🙏

  • @mnoxman
    @mnoxman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "All the vibrant colors of the German rainbow. There is Gray, Dark Gray, Berlin Asphalt and Accident in a coal mine." -- Spitting Image.

  • @zoopp539
    @zoopp539 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I received mine a couple of days ago and I really like it so far. The only issue I had was with the touchpad rattling when touching the lower half which was a kind of disappointing out-of-the-box experience for the amount of money I paid for it. I've read on Reddit that other buyers also had this issue.
    I've dealt with it by opening it, removing the battery and adjusting the leaf springs spring on the touchpad. Idk man.. I've mixed feelings about Tuxedo, this shouldn't really shouldn't happen on a ~2k€ laptop.

    • @ppbdrinker
      @ppbdrinker ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How bad does it feel to have the power key placed where the delete would normally be?
      Do you find it annoying or managed to get along with? Thanks!

    • @zoopp539
      @zoopp539 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ppbdrinker It hasn't really bothered me that much, I've yet to power off the machine by accident. By default you have to keep the button pressed for a short time for it to register a key press so it's not like it's going to power off as soon as you touch it by accident. Moreover, as far as I'm aware you can change the power key handling behavior so that it does nothing on short press (see for example HandlePowerKey and HandlePowerKeyLongPress in `man 5 logind.conf`).
      That being said, I am planning to change the key mapping a bit in the future (if possible, I haven't looked into it yet) and the position of the delete key is definitely going to change.

  • @AdamM
    @AdamM ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m really torn.. been looking at the system 76 Lumer Pro for a while now but this looks so much better as a machine… 😬

  • @Regonarr
    @Regonarr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Half-height arrow keys should be a criminal offence