Damn, you covered everything I could have wanted and more. You even talked actual pricing... and no one seems to want to do that. I just picked this up and watched a lot of reviews.... this was my favorite. By the way, it might still be on B&H for $2,650 if anyone reads this and cares.
A slight correction: One of the DDR5 Memory advantages is: Dual Channel on a Single Stick. So, no, it would be better if it had one 32GB stick and a free slot.
Good review. I was able to pick up the 32g mem with the 4080 version on sale at B&H for $1899, think they are $1999 now. I love it, great laptop, especially at that price.
i just ordered one for 1999. big toss up between this MSI for same price but chose the lenovo in the end. MSI 17" Raider GE78HX Core i9-13980HX-32GB of 5600 MHz DDR5 RAM, rtx 4080,1T
I just scored a new in box 4090 model on Facebook marketplace for 2275 usd. Could not be more happy this thing is a beast. Shame it does not have the mini led panel though.
Hi! If I buy that kind of top spec gaming laptop and like to use for video randering and photo editoring. This is where we good choice or buying work station with RTX A5000 ?
I know this is a fairly old video, but i never look into things until I'm actually looking to buy. I'm curious about the AI "Tobii"? I'm not paranoid, so is it useful in games? if i look left in a vehicle, will it pan left?
Thank you. I purchased one of those at a bargain, just a few weeks ago. I have no statistics, but if there is aby future for the PC Gaming industry, I think it lies with laptop gaming. Yes, your standard home built desktop will always be ahead and more upgradeable, but not exactly very much cheaper. A desktop RTX 4090 card is still at $2000 which isn't too far from a complete gaming laptop like this. No you cannot compare with the top performance, but the laptop version actually trades blows with last gen. 3090, and add to that what you get in total, plus the neatness and portability. It is my prediction that traditional desktop builds will become a more niche market, trading blows with consoles, while gaming laptops will increase the market share, just for what they are. There have been huge advances since the bulky DTR days, and while a Gaming laptop isn't exactly slim as a Macbook, it is just one generation behind the desktop counterpart, and these days they even look and feel slim and neat enough.
So, can you upgrade the ram to 96GB at 5600 MHZ? I've heard mixed reviews. Also, if i purchase two 990 samsung m.2 ssd will they both fit? I wanna know before dropping the $$$.
1- Can I turn off the disco keyboard/side lights in Linux? 2- Does the AI tools send usage info to the cloud (i.e., is it spying on us)? 3- How long does the battery lasts in "idle-ish" regime?
I thought about that myself but Mac has so much crap to get outside of the laptop and the music production software I use doesn’t work with Mac so. I like USB stuff and always hated having to get adapters to use them which Mac forces me to do let alone all their apps I have to download. Mac is good for painting and artists, though.
@@pinkpalace-yx2ew I did not expect that it will be so capable, but I must admit I upgraded RAM it had only 16GB and with 32GB of RAM it is a game changer. If you still find in the shop then it was Lenovo Legion 5 Pro 16ACH6H. That rtx is on 130W. I have it for 3 years. Starfield can play between 30-70 FPS in 2K - ultra + AMD FSR3 (shadows high)
I didn't fully understand what you said about the 32GB RAM. Is it upgradable to 64GB RAM with the existing memory chips or do you need to replace all of them? How many chips/slots are there? 2 or 4?
@@clint9040 on their website it says max ram is 32...but I was REALLY hoping it could handle 64....it also says it's only capable of two 1tb M.2 drives...which, I was really hoping for more of that too....anyone know?
@@UH82NVME As I wrote above ... I direct phone call to Lenovo returned that ... the RAM is soldered to the motherboard. So, no replacing. This actually matches the statement on the official spec PDF.
I believe this doesnt have any Windows Hello whatsoever. Last year they had a fingerprint scanner but with this year they got rid of it as they wanted to compete with all the other makers. Still it's 2023 so there should be at least something for this price.
great video. i got the 4080 version cause i didn't see as much of a gain w/ the 4090 over the 4080 as i saw w/ the 4080 over the 4070. got it during a sale so it was several hundred dollars cheaper than msrp. the last time i upgraded was over 4 years ago...how can i go wrong?
This machine with 4090 performs in game 5% above desktop 3090Ti, actually between desktop 4070Ti and desktop 4080 (5% to 15% slower than 4080 desktop, depending on the game).
Where did you get this information? I find it very unlikely that it performs better than an RTX 3090 Ti desktop. I would be happy to be proven wrong though.
@@Trusteft no because I'm saying the public normal spreaded info. He is the one contradicting everyone else. So if he believes 1+2=3, he's the one to bring the proof. You can find stuff like this everywhere: Here it compares fps in 10 games: th-cam.com/video/DTizHip5FjU/w-d-xo.html Here you have a huge channel testing it and saying "When a laptop is actually faster than an RTX 3090 GPU... YIKES!" and do many benchmarks. th-cam.com/video/5k219ud_Xz0/w-d-xo.html You can find 200 videos like these. The 4090 mobile is actually a 4080 desktop... at lower TDP.
According to their website this can only have 32 gigs of RAM and up to two 1tb M.2 drives. Are you sure it can handle 64 gigs of RAM and do you know how big of hard drives it can handle? I would love that info if you got it. Thank you in advance for your insight. I appreciate the time you put into making this video. It was packed full of great info!
@@bozicsreten I have two 2tb M.2 drives and it works flawlessly. In fact, it's pretty insanely fast....:) just waiting on some confirmation on the RAM.
@@UH82NVME thanks for reply, I am glad to hear that you like it. The only thing that actually keeps me away from pulling the trigger is this thing about RAM lol
@@bozicsreten Ha, I mean, it's definitely blazing fast. I do a lot of photography and just recently started tinkering in video. The computer is quite fast itself that I don't know that the extra RAM is necessary depending on your purposes. So if you're using it just to game or something like that I bet it would be plenty fine. If you do some heavy video work or designing you may want it. I have been really really impressed with it.
@@UH82NVME that’s awesome, I am also into photography (not gamer at all) and primary purpose of it would actually be for music production so I just want to be on a safe side when it comes to RAM
I want to buy legion pro 7. I just want to play gta csgo and other games. And i will use it for MATLAB, python simulation, image processing and android studio. Is it Good or not Need advice
It's great abs highly recommended. The RTX4080 is a lot cheaper and almost as powerful on games. Go for that. A great keyboard & screen for your coding & productivity work too!
I have similar requirements. I just discovered the 32 GB ram is a hard limit, not upgradable. What other laptops are you looking at? My main requirement? A damn numpad! It is a rarity nowadays!
@@Bilal-fi9ev I start thinking that there are Europe/US differences in this laptop. In Europe, the 64GB seemed not to exist when I typed that message. Not sure about now.
I like a review that shows dislikes as well as things it found positive. It's one of the ways you can distinguish it from a commercial or paid promotion.
B&H has it for $2500 now. I wish instead of Legion Pro 9 I had bought the 7 for $1500 less money. The Legion Pro 9 has faulty MediaTek network card and it has died after two days of use. What a waste of time and money. It will be returned soon!
Correction that is the legion pro 7i not the pro 7, the I in 7i means Intel. Without that i as in how you were saying “Legion pro 7” you’d be referring to the model with the AMD 7945hx. You should prob do a bit more research cuz that’s a pro 7i not pro 7.
This is the first time I watch your videos, so I don't know you at all. Not sure if it was sarcasm or not, but do you honestly believe that 97C is a normal temperature for a brand new laptop. That's like a couple of months away from reaching 100C. 97C is not normal. Hell, even not after a few months, what if it is a hot day? No. Terrible. I agree about the GPU temps, they are really good for the system. But the CPU...No, just not acceptable. As for the A.I., it sounds completely like a gimmick, but still if it doesn't have the option to switch off, good enough reason for me to never consider buying it. If it wasn't already for the CPU temps. Or my complete lack of money. Thanks for the video.
I don’t know what you are talking about build quality. Lenovo skimped out compared to the last generation. The keyboard flex by the WASD is terrible, the plastic feels cheap… I doubt you own or have used the previous generation.
Serious question. Because you mentioned keyboard flex. I use computers for about 40 years now. Keyboard flex was never an issue about the longevity and responsiveness of any keyboard I have ever used. Why do you, as many others, mention flexing of a keyboard (laptop or not) as something important?
@@Trusteftprolly because as a gaming laptop, people tend to put more force on the wasd keys when gaming compared to other laptops thats why flexing might become an issue
This is a weird review for a laptop since it did not discuss one of the most important features in a laptop: Battery Life. How the hell do you honestly review a laptop and expect to be taken seriously without addressing how the thing fares in various settings and what sort of hourage a prospective buyer can expect out of the box? Very bizarre.
To be fair, it's going to vary widely depending on how you use it. Lots of reviews on this laptop out there. Jharods tech is really thorough and I think he has hard numbers for battery life.
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Damn, you covered everything I could have wanted and more. You even talked actual pricing... and no one seems to want to do that. I just picked this up and watched a lot of reviews.... this was my favorite. By the way, it might still be on B&H for $2,650 if anyone reads this and cares.
battery life? Benchmarks?
Killjoy
😂
Got it @ 2250$ on b&h
Battery life?
Great video sir! Just picked this up as a desktop replacement and am hoping to enjoy games at Ultra settings for years to come!!
how has it held up
The amount of detail in this video is insane. Great job!
This was a really quality video. Subbed to support the channel! Keep it up
Quality video. Thanks!
The best review I'ved ever seen on a laptop. Thank you very much for sharing.😁
Good review, thanks
Really nice review! Good luck with your channel, hope you will get 100x subscribers asap!
A slight correction: One of the DDR5 Memory advantages is: Dual Channel on a Single Stick.
So, no, it would be better if it had one 32GB stick and a free slot.
Good review. I was able to pick up the 32g mem with the 4080 version on sale at B&H for $1899, think they are $1999 now. I love it, great laptop, especially at that price.
i just ordered one for 1999. big toss up between this MSI for same price but chose the lenovo in the end. MSI 17" Raider GE78HX Core i9-13980HX-32GB of 5600 MHz DDR5 RAM, rtx 4080,1T
Finally a new Lenovo, thanks for reviewing this!
They have one every year.
I just scored a new in box 4090 model on Facebook marketplace for 2275 usd. Could not be more happy this thing is a beast. Shame it does not have the mini led panel though.
Great video.
Hi!
If I buy that kind of top spec gaming laptop and like to use for video randering and photo editoring. This is where we good choice or buying work station with RTX A5000 ?
What is the stand you are using to hold the laptop flat and vertical?
I know this is a fairly old video, but i never look into things until I'm actually looking to buy. I'm curious about the AI "Tobii"? I'm not paranoid, so is it useful in games? if i look left in a vehicle, will it pan left?
I love the build quality on this model, really solid.
Not really. Last year's was all aluminum with a glass touchpad. Now everything's plastic except for the outside to cut cost.
meh
@EikottXD there's assault rifles with polymer lowers Scar16 scar 17
Thats so nice that connections are on the rear. All laptops are on sides now days its pretty annoying .
Thank you. I purchased one of those at a bargain, just a few weeks ago. I have no statistics, but if there is aby future for the PC Gaming industry, I think it lies with laptop gaming. Yes, your standard home built desktop will always be ahead and more upgradeable, but not exactly very much cheaper. A desktop RTX 4090 card is still at $2000 which isn't too far from a complete gaming laptop like this. No you cannot compare with the top performance, but the laptop version actually trades blows with last gen. 3090, and add to that what you get in total, plus the neatness and portability. It is my prediction that traditional desktop builds will become a more niche market, trading blows with consoles, while gaming laptops will increase the market share, just for what they are. There have been huge advances since the bulky DTR days, and while a Gaming laptop isn't exactly slim as a Macbook, it is just one generation behind the desktop counterpart, and these days they even look and feel slim and neat enough.
Nice review. Big up!
As for the laptop, RTX 4090 with I9 13900HX couldn't be better.
only i9 14900HX better😀
Just to be in same page, Only 2TB is max supported? that means I cannot place another 2TB in the empty slot where i can only put another 1 TB?
So, can you upgrade the ram to 96GB at 5600 MHZ? I've heard mixed reviews. Also, if i purchase two 990 samsung m.2 ssd will they both fit? I wanna know before dropping the $$$.
what about temperature on the keyboard and underneath?
What laptop stand is that?
1- Can I turn off the disco keyboard/side lights in Linux?
2- Does the AI tools send usage info to the cloud (i.e., is it spying on us)?
3- How long does the battery lasts in "idle-ish" regime?
"is it spying on me?" 🤓 ur not famous bro
İs this better than msi raider ge78hx 14vhg?
What’s the refresh rate when playing csgo?
should i get this instead of the mb pro for production and videoo editing 👀loved my macbook annd i had too sell it
I thought about that myself but Mac has so much crap to get outside of the laptop and the music production software I use doesn’t work with Mac so. I like USB stuff and always hated having to get adapters to use them which Mac forces me to do let alone all their apps I have to download. Mac is good for painting and artists, though.
Legion Pro owner here. Still have 3060 and without Ray Tracing I have 63FPS in CB2077 everything on ultra in 2K. Love it
1080p xD
@@mariuxxxx1 1080p on 2K screen looks like shit, so nope
so if u have the 3060 whaat year model would that be?should this be my new laptop?
@@pinkpalace-yx2ew I did not expect that it will be so capable, but I must admit I upgraded RAM it had only 16GB and with 32GB of RAM it is a game changer. If you still find in the shop then it was Lenovo Legion 5 Pro 16ACH6H. That rtx is on 130W. I have it for 3 years. Starfield can play between 30-70 FPS in 2K - ultra + AMD FSR3 (shadows high)
@@lincoln537 wow,thanks lil big help
I didn't fully understand what you said about the 32GB RAM. Is it upgradable to 64GB RAM with the existing memory chips or do you need to replace all of them? How many chips/slots are there? 2 or 4?
He said both slots came full with a 16+16. So if you want to upgrade to 64 you need to replace both slots to a 32+32
@@clint9040 on their website it says max ram is 32...but I was REALLY hoping it could handle 64....it also says it's only capable of two 1tb M.2 drives...which, I was really hoping for more of that too....anyone know?
@@UH82NVME As I wrote above ... I direct phone call to Lenovo returned that ... the RAM is soldered to the motherboard. So, no replacing. This actually matches the statement on the official spec PDF.
In mine ram is not soldered to the board. @VCC1316
Advanced Optimus?
I believe this doesnt have any Windows Hello whatsoever. Last year they had a fingerprint scanner but with this year they got rid of it as they wanted to compete with all the other makers. Still it's 2023 so there should be at least something for this price.
Facial recognition.
He spoke about this
I like how you can upgrade to 4Tb and to 64gb ram technically but its unescesary
I’m between this and the scar 16 but the coil whine scares me.
great video. i got the 4080 version cause i didn't see as much of a gain w/ the 4090 over the 4080 as i saw w/ the 4080 over the 4070. got it during a sale so it was several hundred dollars cheaper than msrp. the last time i upgraded was over 4 years ago...how can i go wrong?
how are u liking it?are u jusst. gamming?im lookingg foor a new audio production setup up and i wwannna. be done with console gaaming
You should have thought in long-term
how is it , im ordering it tomorrow XD
@@sid-rg2ue in 2 weeks there are gonna be the mega discounts, if I was in you I'd wait as you might crop one for 20% cheaper
@@sid-rg2ue grt the 4090 if you can, cuz that's gonna last at least another 7 yrs
Thanks
On sale now for 2700USD ! Hard to beat at this price
True :)
Ya love this thing got it for 2700 and it kicks ass!
Nice review but I am pretty sure the laptop does not have Windows Hello face unlock.
thx!
This machine with 4090 performs in game 5% above desktop 3090Ti, actually between desktop 4070Ti and desktop 4080 (5% to 15% slower than 4080 desktop, depending on the game).
Where did you get this information? I find it very unlikely that it performs better than an RTX 3090 Ti desktop. I would be happy to be proven wrong though.
@@Eqqs Actually I saw that in EVERY video comparing it... try to find one that says otherwise.
@@smanzoli That's like saying "I have the biggest rooster, try to prove otherwise".
@@Trusteft no because I'm saying the public normal spreaded info. He is the one contradicting everyone else. So if he believes 1+2=3, he's the one to bring the proof.
You can find stuff like this everywhere:
Here it compares fps in 10 games:
th-cam.com/video/DTizHip5FjU/w-d-xo.html
Here you have a huge channel testing it and saying "When a laptop is actually faster than an RTX 3090 GPU... YIKES!" and do many benchmarks.
th-cam.com/video/5k219ud_Xz0/w-d-xo.html
You can find 200 videos like these.
The 4090 mobile is actually a 4080 desktop... at lower TDP.
According to their website this can only have 32 gigs of RAM and up to two 1tb M.2 drives. Are you sure it can handle 64 gigs of RAM and do you know how big of hard drives it can handle? I would love that info if you got it. Thank you in advance for your insight. I appreciate the time you put into making this video. It was packed full of great info!
I would also like to know if support for 64gb of RAM can be confirmed? Did you find out somewhere else meanwhile?
@@bozicsreten I have two 2tb M.2 drives and it works flawlessly. In fact, it's pretty insanely fast....:) just waiting on some confirmation on the RAM.
@@UH82NVME thanks for reply, I am glad to hear that you like it. The only thing that actually keeps me away from pulling the trigger is this thing about RAM lol
@@bozicsreten Ha, I mean, it's definitely blazing fast. I do a lot of photography and just recently started tinkering in video. The computer is quite fast itself that I don't know that the extra RAM is necessary depending on your purposes. So if you're using it just to game or something like that I bet it would be plenty fine. If you do some heavy video work or designing you may want it. I have been really really impressed with it.
@@UH82NVME that’s awesome, I am also into photography (not gamer at all) and primary purpose of it would actually be for music production so I just want to be on a safe side when it comes to RAM
I want to buy legion pro 7. I just want to play gta csgo and other games. And i will use it for MATLAB, python simulation, image processing and android studio. Is it Good or not
Need advice
It's great abs highly recommended. The RTX4080 is a lot cheaper and almost as powerful on games. Go for that. A great keyboard & screen for your coding & productivity work too!
I have similar requirements. I just discovered the 32 GB ram is a hard limit, not upgradable.
What other laptops are you looking at?
My main requirement? A damn numpad! It is a rarity nowadays!
@@VCC1316 hard limit?? Mine runs on 64Gb.
@@Bilal-fi9ev I start thinking that there are Europe/US differences in this laptop. In Europe, the 64GB seemed not to exist when I typed that message. Not sure about now.
Uhh.... guys....... this laptop is listed like 400-450$ in Alibaba......
BEAST gaming laptop AI! with RTX 4090
REVIEW : Lenovo Legion Pro 7 2023 $
? What do u mean? I don’t get it.😅Too subtle for me🤣
@@techniqualities 😂
actually, it seems rtx 4090 laptop has the same performance of rtx 4070ti desktop
Got mine for 2300, killer laptop
4090?
@@njabulozimu7702 legion 7i pro, the 4090, 13900HX laptop
Me too but the 4080 version
I like a review that shows dislikes as well as things it found positive. It's one of the ways you can distinguish it from a commercial or paid promotion.
5:11 did he just say P
B&H has it for $2500 now. I wish instead of Legion Pro 9 I had bought the 7 for $1500 less money. The Legion Pro 9 has faulty MediaTek network card and it has died after two days of use. What a waste of time and money. It will be returned soon!
they downgrade port section, and unable to put double side m.2
Correction that is the legion pro 7i not the pro 7, the I in 7i means Intel. Without that i as in how you were saying “Legion pro 7” you’d be referring to the model with the AMD 7945hx. You should prob do a bit more research cuz that’s a pro 7i not pro 7.
Sit down please sir
Work or... what? XD
This is the first time I watch your videos, so I don't know you at all. Not sure if it was sarcasm or not, but do you honestly believe that 97C is a normal temperature for a brand new laptop. That's like a couple of months away from reaching 100C. 97C is not normal. Hell, even not after a few months, what if it is a hot day? No. Terrible.
I agree about the GPU temps, they are really good for the system.
But the CPU...No, just not acceptable.
As for the A.I., it sounds completely like a gimmick, but still if it doesn't have the option to switch off, good enough reason for me to never consider buying it. If it wasn't already for the CPU temps.
Or my complete lack of money.
Thanks for the video.
You are actually right about the cpu, but lately the manufacturers are going higher and higher with temperatures. The outcome? A lot of throttle.
I don’t know what you are talking about build quality. Lenovo skimped out compared to the last generation. The keyboard flex by the WASD is terrible, the plastic feels cheap… I doubt you own or have used the previous generation.
Yea it's the only thing I don't like, however the performance is spectacular thus time around
Serious question. Because you mentioned keyboard flex. I use computers for about 40 years now. Keyboard flex was never an issue about the longevity and responsiveness of any keyboard I have ever used. Why do you, as many others, mention flexing of a keyboard (laptop or not) as something important?
@@Trusteftprolly because as a gaming laptop, people tend to put more force on the wasd keys when gaming compared to other laptops thats why flexing might become an issue
@@safinman thank you for your input.
5:09 thank you for saying that it will be smooth in porn. Can't wait to watch 4k porn in this!😅
did bro just say "p0rN"?
Did bro just say porn so casually? 💀
battery life? lol
How runs CS.GO on RTX4090?🤣🤣🤣
frumoasa poiezia...😂
This is a weird review for a laptop since it did not discuss one of the most important features in a laptop: Battery Life.
How the hell do you honestly review a laptop and expect to be taken seriously without addressing how the thing fares in various settings and what sort of hourage a prospective buyer can expect out of the box?
Very bizarre.
To be fair, it's going to vary widely depending on how you use it. Lots of reviews on this laptop out there. Jharods tech is really thorough and I think he has hard numbers for battery life.
thee battery life onee of the best for thee laptops this. year but yea wierd he diddnt say annuthing ab it