Defending Star fox Adventures Dinosaur Planet
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- This is my attempt at Defending Star Fox Adventures Dinosaur Planet Rare's Swan song on Nintendo Home Consoles. Does this game hold up after all these years? Did it so justice to the Starfox Franchise? Addressing the common complaints and then giving my takes.
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I love this game. Drop a like if you agree.
One of my favourites when i was a kid👍
@@philosopher51one of mine too! It’s a vibe
This is one of my favorite games of all time, the soundtrack and atmosphere is so good, I’ll watch this video later
I enjoy this game and play it from time to time.
Totally, still love this game when it released in 2002 and still to this day, so upset that when the 3DS was launched Rareware said they were going to bring this game back ! Would have been amazing having Starfox Adventures on the go ! Hopefully see this game on the Switch or it successor !
It gave us Krystal. Enough said.
I first played through this game in my early twenties over a decade ago and I loved it! The Star Fox universe really lends itself to being an epic adventure. I feel that the quality visuals and soundtrack helped to make it quite immersive and I actually find it to be more enjoyable than some Zelda games.
The test of strength mini game was a big problem for me as I have never been great with tapping A fast enough to win. I had to get a family member who was amazing at the Mario Party mini games where you tap A to beat that part for me. If I play though the game again, I will make sure to get a turbo controller just for that part lol
I loved the game regardless, but the fact that it was supposed to be an entirely different game; imagining what could've been and taking interest in the world of Dinosaur Planet made me appreciate Star Fox Adventures more.
@@Wxyver_n dinosaur planet is so mysterious and interesting too. I wish we got more in this particular series! Like adventures could have been on tons of different planets! Would have been sweet!
My complains have nothing to do with Fox Mcloud being he main playable character.
But, during anticipation period for this game on year 2000, the screenshots and footage shown did hint a game with much more content and life in it.
This was ultimately proved to be correct, when build of N64 Dinosaur Planet was leaked. While SF:Adventures was inpressive, it's clear that it was downgraded Dinosaur Planet.
And yes, that includes even music soundtrack, despite still being Rare -quality on StarFox Adventures. Battles are way too easy on NGC and all the best levels & set pieces are gone.
Special effects are downgraded as well. Not even day/night circle seems nowhere near as flawless.
Simple as that.
After playing all levels on N64, going back to replay inferior StarFox Adventures is tedious.
OK. Even Dinosaur Planet did barely have dungeons of Zelda -quality.
But the overworld level desing was light years ahead of Starfox Adventures and rivals Zelda:OOT.
Not to even mention entire planet having seamless levels on N64.
Too much brilliant content was cut and lost when converting game into GameCube.
Hence N64 -version is much more fullfilling experience.
Currently playing through the N64 build and it def has charm oozing out of it and the plot is already so interesting. I’m curious how far you can get in it.
The atmosphere in this game is immaculate. The feel you get when walking around with the music, especially walking by lightfoot village. The day and night cycle, and just how connected the world is, it makes it all feel like a real place. I loved this game so much.
This has always been my favorite Star Fox game. I love the atmosphere, the music, the gameplay, and yes, I like the foxy blue vixen. I just wish they did more with her; I don't mind her being a damsel-in-distress to rescue, but I'd rather rescue her earlier in the game so she and Fox can work together to save Dinosaur Planet. Give them more time to interact and bond with each other.
I hope Star Fox Adventures comes back on Switch, and I'd love to see a proper sequel to it, perhaps one that takes the Star Fox team to different planets, lets you explore them on foot, and lets you interact with the inhabitants of that planet. I believe that is the future of the Star Fox series.
The Nintendo 64 version funny enough Krystal had her own entire adventure you could play from start to finish, just for whatever reason Miyamoto and his crew rather did the opposite and i had no idea why, maybe it could've been time constraint issues to port over everything and have the story connect with starfox during her journey cuz outside of tricky there was another AI partner you could've had that tags along with krystal so yeah... a TON of the game and more areas to explore was completely stripped out.
@@MrDmoney156 my theory is when they updated all the graphics, particularly the textures, they just didnt have the space to cram in the areas Krystal would've explored, of which there are many and theyre quite neat, i got a ways in on the patched rom. Gamecube discs were pretty low on space so since the focus is explicitly starfox thats probably the sacrifice they decided to make.
I've always loved the Thorntail Hollow music. It has that positive African-like mood with its chanting and bongos that gives you some Lion King vibes.
Oh, yes. And the nighttime version perfectly conveys that feeling of falling asleep in the jungle. Makes me picture Fox, Krystal, and Tricky making camp for the night.
The design of the Arwing and Great Fox in this game was always my favorite by far. They look straight out of Star Wars, gritty and used. Andross' design also legitimately made my heart drop as a kid. Those eyes were terrifying.
I agree! The design was very Star Wars and looked awesome. Kind of random but I loved the way the blue fire looked too. It was mesmerizing.
I like it okay. I’m in the camp who wished it was Dinosaur Planet as its own IP. Helps that the prototype looks like it gets to the action faster. The opening of Starfox Adventures feels slow, mainly due to “Do you know how to pick up and throw things? Yes? Well here’s a whole series of mind numbingly basic puzzles around it. With no staff or ground enemies yet to fight with.”
I would have loved to see the original get a proper release. Played the rom which is what I show in the video and aside from some framerate issues it plays well.
Really great memories with this one. Exploring Dinosaur planet, figuring out the puzzles. This was still during the time where you would rent games and where you would play single players experiences side by side with friends. The Andross twist at the end actually surprised me at the end I remember for some reason but I was disappointed no actual fight with "GENERAL SCALES!!"
Yeah this! I remember getting this game at Walmart when I was a kid and seeing the poster as I walked in and thinking how awesome it looked. I was sold the second I saw Fox and dinosaurs
LEE DOOMSOO TAVOOK- GENERAL SCALES!!
Finally someone who it´s not a megalomaniac fan of Starfox 64, someone who loves this awesome SPIN OFF from the Starfox series for what it is: a great and different take on the series BECAUSE IS AN ACTION GAME NOT A SHOOTER ON THE RAILS, the last classic from Rare in a Nintendo home console....I don´t even comprehend why are we always fighting to defend this great title, holy cow the Starfox fandom is one of the most toxic and inmature of all of gaming ... so i would love to see more StarFox fans like this guy, i know i know, you all loved Starfox 64 to death (i love it too) but there are other awesome games from this series, on the Game Cube are this awesome Rare adventure and the Namco´s StarFox Assault, not as good but a great shooter too, in the Nintendo DS we have Command, it controls a little too much DSish ....but it has strategy vibes and it is good too, and finally in the Wii U you have Platinum´s StarFox Zero, another good shooter on the rails, please this series is much much more than StarFox 64....wait, this same guy has a video defending Donkey Kon 64??!! holy bananas you are my new TH-cam hero!!
Yes we need to appreciate the games that aren’t Starfox 64 which I do love too!
And heck yeah I defend DK64 lol welcome to my channel!
As a huge Star Fox fan, I've always loved this game, sure I was skeptical back when it first came out, but when I actually tried and played the game, I fell in love with it
I love this game SO MUCH. I was a dinosaur kid with no starfox experience whatsoever. When one of my friends introduced me to a 'real' starfox game, i didn't really care.
Now i see the charm better, but back then i just wanted to get involved in saving the lylat system from blowing up!
You just wanted to do your part. Appreciate your service!
My only complaints is that I was quite disappointed that I couldn’t fight Gen Scales and once again to defeat Andross. The final fight was a little lackluster but a small nitpick against a game I loved. I also remember being amazed by the way of how they captured fur for the GC. The music was incredible. Each track reflected the environment perfectly. Thorntail Hollow day/night, cape claw, ocean force point temple, ancient well are among my favorites
I’m with you!
Someone actually did a good video going into better details about Starfox Adventures issues, especially with how General Scales is built up as a very imposing antagonist and then not using him, the combat system not allowing you to switch enemy targets, acting as a gimped version of Z-targeting and every combo dealing the same amount of damage, the attack animation flourish is just for show but slows the gameplay down too much. You’re better off not engaging with most fights in the game if they aren’t mandatory and that’s mainly the fights in the overworld.
The abilities of the Staff are implemented and streamlined, but at most, their uses in and out of combat are at best, negligible, very clunky, and don’t change combat much. The fact there’s no fast travel in a game that forces you backtrack through an overworld that is mostly linear can become tedious and it doesn’t help that the Warp Stone, which is in it’s name, doesn’t warp you to where you’ll need to go. Enemies also aren’t a threat and never keep up with you, the T-Rexes do the same amount of damage that the first enemies you fight in your first combat scenario and that’s practically every enemy in the game.
If those issues were addressed, then it’d help, but it’s not helping the game when General Scales is done the most disservice overall in the game while Krystal is also put into the DiD role, cause Andross’ appearance at the end isn’t a very well done twist, it’s very jarring.
Here’s the video if anyone is curious: th-cam.com/video/Q79l5MDYBPA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=n-Avlmx37ueCzHg2
Test of Fear Kazoa Test, I see this as an early teaching of how NOT to be distracted in order to win.
If you are distracted by what is going on screen, you fail.
Perhaps a Minigame in Thorntail Hollow could have been used to prepare gamers for that Kazoa test.
In fact, Thorntail Hollow could have used a few minigame shops to give gamers a practice for what they might need later on when they go for the Kazoa tests, that could have given gamers time to get used to the mini game mechanics before really pushing them in the story segments.
I lived in this world as a kid. I remember rushing to my gamecube after school to play ball with tricky, or walking around in the sharpclaw costume pretending to be one of the bad guys!
This was one of the first games i(eventually) managed to beat all by myself too
This game will always hold a place in my heart
I love that! Thanks for sharing! :)
This is probably the best Star Fox game ever. It's the only SF game by Rare and it introduced us to Krystal
I love both of those things!
This is a game I still have to repeat, just finished it once as a child.
My reactions back then were so-so: it felt a little like Star fox, and like Zelda, but not as good as each of them. I am still happy that it exists, but I think the better scenario would have been if dinosaur planet would have been a separate game and we would have got a more fleshed out star fox assault...
I admit that StarFox adventures is my comfort game, it has its dull parts yes, however it’s always given me that warm feeling. Wish I could play it again, but my GameCube and Wii stopped working years ago
That is so sad. It is a comfort game for sure!
For someone like myself who grew up on Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask on the N64.
Especially after coming off from the high difficulty spike that was Majora's Water Dungeon, the easy nature of StarFox Adventures is perhaps what I could call a Beginner's Zelda.
However that button mashing minigame against the Strong Lightfoot tribe member is hell and can ruin your GameCube controller if you are playing with a 3rd Party controller.
If i remember correctly about that minigame it's even you don't have to mash, only hold A. I discover by accident during sometime I played around 2010-15.
I freaking love this game!! It will always be my favorite GameCube game! I didn’t care if it did play like a Zelda game, I was glad I got to play a Starfox game with Fox on land.
Yeah for real! Me too!
I liked this game so much, I wrote a highschool assignment in Saurian because I didn't want anyone to read it. It was supposed to be a letter to ourselves that the teacher would mail to us in X years. I never got it back, so I have no idea what i wrote. Teacher didn't think I'd be able to translate it, but I can because internet. Was probably cringy, so perhaps it's best
Lol that’s so extra and i love it 😂
I never beat the test of fear as a kid, as an adult it still took me about 45 minutes. Hardest part for me. Love this game though!
The Dinosaur Planet beta dumped a year ago feels like yesterday and still fresh and jaw dropping as Starfox Adventures. Its worth a dive now especially with the restoration team patching and making more stable from crashing if anyones first playthrough got too clunky. Theres artifacts including walled City shadowhunters that we see only in Adventures Test of Fear
Rare nailed the atmosphere and mystery even as Starfox Adventures. That kind of exploration across lands is still Starfox-like in its theme kf travel so its warmed up on me more the last few months. Minus stuck mashing A at Lightfoot, i vividly recall grinding fuel cells told i need them, but didnt need them choosing next area anyway.
The atmosphere and the environments are so good that even in the previous unreleased N64 version, they still looked amazing. I think the hate for it really only started to appear when StarFox Command came out and people blamed Adventures for basically starting "canon StarFox fan fiction." Like Jet Force Gemini, I think it has sort of a Saturday Morning Cartoon-esque vibe and approach to it which make some people hard to say they enjoy it as adults, people are just overly critical and negative of anything that seems remotely childish or light.
For sure! Playing through Dinosaur Planet now myself!
Such a good dungeon game. Graphics, soundtracks, dinosaurs!
I’ve had this game since early 2000’s and still do. I’m planning on a replay this summer and it’s always great. For strong foot, use a spoon and rub it really fast over the A button and he’ll be down in an instant.
I believe with slightly updated graphics, dinosaur models and some gameplay, storytelling adjustment. A remake with these additions would be awesome!
Tapping with your index finger can also work. Over the years, I've discovered the index can tap a lot faster than the thumb can. The trick lies in moving your wrist more than your finger; you want to create this sort of vibration where your finger presses and depresses the button in rapid fashion.
I had fun streaming a few months back despite struggling where to go and such, so I am pleased to play this game this recent for the first time.
Always check out Peppy's map and talk to Slippy. Super helpful!
I had been, but I finished the game and it was a blast!
Wow that's one IGN was good surprisingly😂😂😂😂
Right? Lol
This game needs no defense but thanks for the Video! Now if only we can get an HD re release.
Heck yeah!!
Seems to me that the number one description for this game is "missed potential." The Star Fox IP could have added so much more; the original IP (and elements such as the original villain) could have been better fleshed out. Combat could have been so much better, and cutscene/collection animation skipping could have significantly eased the general ergonomics of gameplay. It's like looking at a recipe for an incredible dish, handing it to the chef, and when he comes back with the completed dish, it's just... not quite right. All the ingredients are there, but the spice, the spirit of the recipe, is lacking somehow.
I heard someone say once, "nobody really wants to make a bad game." Of course the team behind this one had big plans before the Star Fox dimension landed on their plate, and even so, they tried to make an experience intended to be unique, fun, and tap into nostalgia for fans of a pretty big franchise at the time. I admit that sometimes I give a little too much benefit of the doubt to folks who probably don't really deserve it, but this is one of those times where I feel pretty confident saying, they probably would have done better (gameplay, writing, etc.) if they could, but there's a fair chance time was of the essence.
It takes time to retool a creative project into something different, especially something as fundamental as changing your protagonist(s) and adding a twist villain to show up the one you originally planned because they're simply a bigger figure in the gaming world.
Agreed. The big changes I would have made are:
1. Fox rescues Krystal a lot earlier in the game, and she joins up with him and Tricky in saving Dinosaur Planet. Fox and Krystal's dynamic is a bit bumpy early on, but the attraction is present and mutual, and by the end of the story, they've smoothed things out considerably.
2. Drakor would be the main villain as intended, with General Scales as his right-hand man.
3. We would have gotten proper matches with Scales and Drakor both.
4. Andross could show up as a secret true final boss, having perhaps been the one who modified Drakor, but he wouldn't steal Scales or Drakor's thunder outright.
5. I would probably try to work Saber and Randorn into the story as well, as fellow Cerinians alongside Krystal who are seeking a new home after the destruction of their home planet.
I loved this game but I hated how certain areas were locked off after completion. No way to explorer the pterodactyl place.
One thing that's always perplexed me is the muted consensus around this game when taken in comparison to Beyond Good & Evil, which is remembered much more fondly despite having MANY similarities to SFA. Near identical mechanics, gameplay, & "dungeon" design; staff-based combat with a long-range projectile move used primarily for puzzle solving instead of combat; partner system; vehicle segments; somewhat short and fairly linear…
My only complaint about SFA is one that has to do with the Star Fox license being shoehorned on, but it's not the licence itself. It's apparent now that we have prototypes from various stages of development that the integrating of Star Fox characters happened much earlier than we used to think, and coincided with content & feature lock-it seems like as soon as they started working on turning Dinosaur Planet into a Star Fox game, all serious work on features and content froze and the game was especially treated as content-complete where it was, to get it out the door. Without the Star Fox move I wonder what additional stages, environments, and mechanics we could've gotten.
I actually prefer SFA to BG&E due mainly to the absence of those excruciating stealth sections that found themselves shoehorned into BG&E and Zelda: Wind Waker in the wake of Metal Gear Solid and Splinter Cell's success.
Personally, I hate the idea that you have to merge every new concept with an existing IP just to get noticed as a game developer. Not only do you create potential new stories, characters and worlds, you often end up with a game where the existing IP doesn't even belong. And Starfox Adventures is unfortunately one such example. Fox doesn't belong on the ground, where he has to solve puzzles, use magic and explore the world in a prehistoric world with dinosaurs and mammoths.
While the setting was unusual and the limitations were arbitrary (No blaster? Seriously?), I think Star Fox absolutely has potential for a game where you spend most of the adventure on foot, interacting with NPCs and firefighting with enemies. Assault gave us a taste of this, though it lacked the adventure component. And honestly, the Krazoa are similar conceptually to beings like the Chozo of Metroid; any "magic" being used could just as easily be advanced technology. You can also compare Star Fox Adventures to something like Star Wars, where sci-fi and fantasy coexist as seen with the Force (huh, and they _are_ called _Force_ Point Temples. Hmm...). And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Dinosaur Planet going to have sci-fi elements anyway? Like the Krazoa, or Drakor being cybernetic? So it's not like Star Fox and Dinosaur Planet were completely incompatible to begin with.
Honestly, I think this insistence that Star Fox must be "only vehicles, ever" is the most damaging thing you can do to the IP. Star Fox Command and Star Fox Zero showed that "vehicles only" doesn't guarantee a good or successful game (I liked Zero better than Command, but ultimately it was just Star Fox 1: Version 3.0), and if vehicles are all you're ever gonna see or interact with, why even have the characters in the first place? They could just as easily be robots built with the abilities to fly and shoot stuff (but that would be boring; the characters are what make the series interesting). It says something that Star Fox Adventures is still better remembered than the painfully linear Star Fox Assault (with the multiplayer being considered its one saving grace) and the painfully drama-laden Star Fox Command, and that's because it actually did something novel for the series, and did a good job of it.
I'll take Star Fox Adventures 2 over Star Fox 1: Version 4.0 any day, thank you very much. Unless they happen to be one in the same (which would be cool; I'd love to fight Venomian forces on foot as well as inside an Arwing).
I didn't know Sabre and Krystal were step-siblings. Good job there's no washing machines on Dinosaur Planet.
Star Fox adventures dinosaur planet I really like this game
Me too!
@@jiggylookback yes I agree
Same here it’s one of Rare’s best games despite the ending being rushed especially the “fight” against Scales
@@matthewbuckley7757 yeah I never been a big fan of the other Star Fox games tell me Star Fox adventures is better than all of the Star Fox games in my opinion
@@natejoe9924 I would love to see this remaster on switch
I agree, they should have kept the split gameplay. Make the Sharpclaws a group of space pirates and have General Scales gather the remnants of Andross' army after his defeat in 64. He uses that army to invade Dinosaur planet and take over Krazoa palace, using the ancient energy from the planet's core to power up and shield a space cannon/spaceship with which he could take over the entire Lylat system. Then, like you said, the Fox gameplay would revolve around fighting the Sharpclaws in space in his arwing and the Krystal gameplay would take place on the planet, collecting the spellstones and spirits to put back the seal on the planet's core and cut off the power supply to the Sharpclaws base's shield. Then put some lore around either the Kamerian dragons or the Krazoa god tricking Scales and Krystal in order to obtain the planet's energy to revive themselves and boom, you have the best of both worlds between the classic Starfox experience and a Zelda like adventure/puzzle game.
100% that sounds awesome
Wouldn't mind a Remaster for Switch
I think in was like 13 when i played SFA on the GC. I was a big StarFox Fan (i still am, look at my profilpic xD) my friends and i always roleplayed to be StarFox Characters, going on missions etc.
I loved SFA so much. Didnt mind it was a diffrent setting. I played SF64 and StarFox on the SNES. But seeing my favourite Characters on a real Adventure was huge for me. I had no struggles with those MiniGames at all. I mean i was already almost a teenager but i think if i was younger it wouldnt be that bad. I beat StarFox SNES with 6 so.. yeah..
I agree with the issues you mentioned. As an adult, it sticks out even more. But the biggest issues i had as a teenager was that the other teammates haden't to do much. I only know the game from its cover. And for me it suggested that the other Characters had their own gameplay mechanics etc. And i was really upset thet Falco was nowhere to be seen untill the very End. And speaking of the End. I didnt like it that there was no Endgame at all. I mean you could only replay the last boss and thats it.
But yes. Today, i still think that StarFox Adventures was and is a great game. It had his issues but still was a great Adventure game.
I just hope we see StarFox return someday. To bad what happend to it after that mature Zero failure. StarLink showed in which direction a StarFox game could go today and that Fans still want it to return.
Yes 100% we need a return.
Love this game. The aiming on the staff is dogshit. I wish we got the gamecube starfox collection on switch.
Adventures and assault
Yeah that aiming was pretty lousy. Definitely causes you to slow down. I noticed it a lot when playing.
The game is still gorgeous even after all of these years and the music I still listen to. :)
Krystal is hotter and has more of a consistent character than Lola Bunny. Yeah I said it! :)
A bit of a random comparison, but I concur that Krystal is one of the best character designs to ever come out of Rare. And credit to Imamura and Miyamoto for making her hotter (no joke).
Star Fox Adventures is a good game on an objective level. When I still had access to this game, I played it quite a lot and enjoyed it. It's basically a Zelda game with Star Fox characters, and while that sounds weird, the game works well with what it set out to do. I love the dinosaur interactions, I love the world, the music, and the graphics, and I really do love a lot of the setpieces in this game barring the entire lightfoot/test of fear BS which is more annoying than it is anything else.
But that's exactly the issue, as well, Like I said, I don't hate this game, but when I wanted to play a brand new Star Fox game, I was not expecting that A: I would be basically playing a Zelda clone, B: The game wouldn't allow me to use Fox's Blaster, which is his trademark weapon on the ground, and C: That the final boss, despite it being a great callback to 64, came entirely out of left field.
The reason why people remember Star Fox 64 as the best game in the series is because the game had a lot of white knuckle moments where you had to make split second decisions if you wanted to win or get the higher score. Blasting through Area 6 is still one of the most fond memories Star Fox fans (such as myself) have, alongside the quotable and meme-worthy dialogue that just isn't present in Adventures. While Adventures is a good Zelda clone, the problem is that it is a good Zelda clone with the Star Fox name on it. It's like if you were to make a COD-style shooter with Mario characters. Even if it plays well and is fun, it would feel completely mismatched with the rest of the content. I even remember that the reverse sort of happened with Link's Crossbow training, which was a third person sometimes on-rails shooter, and while it was fun, the game was treated as a Spin-off, and was meant to be seen as such. Adventures was meant to be the sequel to 64, yet it felt more like a spin-off in terms of tone and feel.
Fox not having his blaster would be rectified in the following Star Fox game on the Gamecube, which did take a lot of notes from 64, Assault, but seeing how his blaster worked in Assault kind of made me glad that Fox didn't have it in Adventures on a gameplay level. For all the good Assault tried to do to rectify Star Fox, all it basically did was say "Yeah, this is it. It would have sucked in Adventures." The reason why I'm mentioning Assault here is because Adventures marked the downward trend in Star Fox games we are still seeing to this day. Even Zero, wich was the closest game in tone and feel to 64 was bogged down by an unintuitive control scheme, and even introduced a new vehicle which no one wanted to play as. Is it fair to blame Adventures for what happened to Star Fox as a series? No. But is is the start of the trend? Absolutely.
Finally, Andross. I understand full well that Andross is the main and most iconic villain of the series, but this was General Scales' show from the beginning. Andross had zero build up and was shoehorned in for no reason whatsoever. Even in 64, they explain before you reach the start screen, or even before you do the first level of Corneria that Andross is the big bad. He's never seen during gameplay until the player reaches Area 6 or Venom 1, but his presence is everywhere. He has bases, labs, secret weapons, and generals throughout the Lylat system, and his forces are out to kill you, making it 100% clear that he is the big bad. It makes meeting him at Venom feel all the more real, because you literally were fighting a war against this guy across multiple planets. In Adventures? Right when you're supposed to finally take down Scales (and it was supposed to happen with the unused rendition of Area 6 from 64 playing as the boss theme), you can get one hit on the guy before Andross tells him to screw off. If Andross was going to come back, it should have happened in Assault with the Aparoids, and hell, Assault's first boss is a robotic Andross clone, so it would have served as a great tutorial or foreshadowing for the final boss. Again, the downward trend is showing here.
Like I said, Adventures is a fine game on its own. It's well designed, and paced, has great graphics and music, and is still a great game to sit down and play despite its quirks and minor hiccups. But just because Adventures is a good game, that doesn't mean it's a good Star Fox game. It truly saddens me that we haven't seen a good Star Fox game since 64, and honestly? Nintendo would do better to remake Star Fox 2, because when I played that years after playing Adventures, Assault, and Zero (I never played Command, so I can't comment on it), I felt more like I did when I was playing 64 than any other game in the series. Liking Adventures isn't an issue. I like it. But I also know that this game isn't a Star Fox game, and it's truly saddening to see Star Fox as a series in this state.
I’m with you. We need a starfox revival.
It is a neat game, sadly the feeling that it was unfinished grew with me. Since the gigaleak a few years ago, and the access to the original dinosaur planet I really grew to love the unfinished game.
I have no problem that Fox and his gang got forced into the whole thing, yet I honestly believe that Sabre and his adoptive sister Crystal would have made a better team to explore this setting.
Switching between two characters would have been really cool.
Personally, I'd bring them all together, including Fox and Saber. Being that Saber is a wolf, it'd be interesting if he developed a rivalry with Fox, echoing Fox's rivalry with a certain other Wolf.
I even thought of an AU origin story that would have Star Fox meeting Krystal, Saber, and Randorn on a planet that serves as a hub of criminal activity, and agreeing to ferry them away from said planet. During the voyage, Fox and Krystal grow close to each other, which makes Saber envious. General Scales would appear as well, pursuing the Cerinians with his crew of SharpClaw and another Cerinian female named Kursed (yes, I would turn Kursed into a separate character from Krystal, though serving as her dark counterpart much as Wolf does for Fox).
One of my favorite childhood favorite gamecube games! It will always hold a special place in my heart
Me too :)
Great video ^^
I never played the game but watched a let's play a few years ago and honestly i liked it. Maby i should play it and make my own opinion.
You totally should play it!
For Tricky, every time he says: "where are we going?" I always start singing the Zaboomafoo theme
i saw it as Zelda with Star Fox characters, and that was just fine by me lol. i loved assault too, but that game needed more campaign content. the multiplayer was very fun to play around in especially after you unlock the bonuses
I am 100% with you! I loved the multiplayer!
I had high hopes for Assault, but I admit it was kind of disappointing after Adventures wowed me as much as it did back then. Adventures' credits theme made me excited for a sequel, and of course I love the sendoff with Krystal's theme establishing she's part of the team now, and getting together with Fox.
@@bcrossfire1219 I recommend the upcoming Star Overdrive as a successor to SF Adventures.
Most naysayers: It's not a space shooter, so it's bad
Sensible people: But what about the game itself? What's wrong with it?
Most naysayers: It's not a space shooter, so it's bad
Thank you for defending such a good game that's hated for such ridiculous reasons.
Love this game honestly! I would have loved a sequel.
@jiggylookback Me too and it sold over a million copies, so I'm guessing it was due to negative fan feedback because it was right back to vehicle-based comeback after this.
@TheBradRules yeah basically uuugg
I blame JonTron. He DRAGGED that game through the coals, ripping right into it!
JonTron kinda sucks sometimes doesn’t he?
@@jiggylookback as memeworthy as Jon Jafari is, he CAN suck.
This was my introduction into the Star Fox series. Assault is a better on foot SF game.
I think it does a good job at bridging the previous starfox games, but I’ll always have a soft spot for Adventures :)
@@jiggylookback to be fair, it being “not Starfoxy enough” is a good thing for me.
I did not like 64 or Command that much (I haven’t played the original, unreleased 2, or Zero)
Even though it's not originally Star Fox, I love playing with this skin. Much better than with a franchise that would never have a continuation or appeal. If they even put Diddy and Dixie in this game instead, I would love it even though it has nothing to do with DK. People complain a lot about aesthetic things, it doesn't make any sense to me.
Great game, just not a main sequel to traditional star fox titles. If they hadn’t added the star fox IP it would probably get better reviews, but it also probably wouldn’t have been played/enjoyed by as many people
This game could have been even better if they kept the original concept, but it was still amazing.
Yeah... I rarely used ice in attacking. Actually, I almost never used Staff or Tricky abilities unless the game was making me, even though the fuel for doing so was abundant, so I was probably being subtly yelled at by the game to do that more, and all I saw was that I could entirely stop collecting GrubTub around the time of Fox's first -- the game's second -- Krazoa Shrine if Tricky was stuffed and Fox was at capacity, and then get by on that for the rest of the game.
Huh. When I tried to be that fast at the Lightfoot Test of Strength, I lost. My strategy was to let Musclefoot get a start, then start mashing as Fox approached the pit. It tended to work. I should say that, in my case, I was in my 20s when this game came out.
Ohhh, the Test of Fear. It was, indeed, my stopping point for a while. My very first problem was that I didn't know how I was supposed to interact with the gauge. It looked exactly like the one from the thieves' punishment minigame, which had you press A to stop the needle within the green area but was otherwise okay going outside of it, but here, you used the Control Stick to try to mitigate the needle's movements so that it stays within the green area. Then it took me a while to acclimate myself to the distracting movie that played during it. It got to where I could kind of look at it a little bit and still get through, though.
I guess, but failure always makes you go through the Shrine again. Which, in this case, keeps the Tests from being pointless, as most of them do no damage, so starting at the tests would be as good as a free pass that you just practice to use.
If there's anything I'd change that you didn't mention, it would be that I'd make it so you could wake up any NPC who doesn't already wake up on your approach. Okay, so there's only one NPC that sleeps whose sleeping impedes your progress. But is there anyone who's played Star Fox Adventures a few times who hasn't run into that SnowHorn, gotten his two Alpine Roots, and still been unable to progress because he's asleep? Granted, you could burn some of that time collecting sleeping GrubTubs before they wake up, as well, and collect that Magic Meter upgrade. Still...
I've seen a couple of amusing glitches or bugs or something back when I used to play it.
The first is one I saw in the DarkIce Mines, on the surface, in one of those structures. It may have been the one with the campfire. That batlike enemy spawned into a wall. It couldn't fully spawn, and it couldn't despawn, so it just looped its light show. That only happened once.
The second one was more repeatable. It was on Dragon Rock, where the EarthWalker is found. After freeing him, go to him and get the cutscene. Now, look at him... and pause to get the menu. The EarthWalker's tail will disappear. I don't know if this happens with any other NPC.
Omg, I was literally listening to the soundtrack to this game while doing work earlier.
This game has, by far, my all time favorite soundtrack to any game.
It is phenomenal.
The game itself is also good!
I HATED the part in Dragon Rock where you had to free the dinosaur by shooting the targets in a time limit because the aiming sucks but other than that, great game!
My only complaint about this game really is the lack of time playing as Krystal. I wish we had the option of playing as Krystal rather than having her be stuck inside the crystal to be saved. Playing as both 100% through the game would have been nice.
This game is good, FLAWED but good, i would love a remaster or maybe just a port since it still looks amazing
Was it a shame we never got Dinosaur Planet? Yes.
Was this game all it could've been? Maybe not.
Is it a bad game? By no means.
Is it a good Starfox game? That one's difficult.
Is it a good game, I'd say so. 100%.
And I can only hope, unlikely as it sounds, we'll see something come of it or the original Dinosaur Planet concept.
Great video
@@littleNorwegians would absolutely love Starfox Adventures to be a series and they visit different planets. What a missed opportunity.
Amazing game! It still looks great too ! I really loved the idea of getting out of the arwing, exploring the many worlds this universe has to offer. Imagine how great that would have been.
Imagine if Rare made a traditional Starfox alongside Adventures...
I mean it's pretty obvious why it gets bashed online. Xbox Tax.
I'm gonna step out here and say... Star Fox Adventures just looks like its dying for a more Dark Souls inspired combat mod. The game would be fun as hell with something like that
@@TheFurryMemelord holy crap that would be amazing.
While I believe star fox assault is the perfect sequel to this, I also believe adventures is a great game with a bad reputation.
I had no problem with the game, its the Fans that are the issue
I did very much like SFA. It was one of the more graphically advanced games I had played at that point, and it was a pretty fun world to explore. I did hate Tricky... and besides that, I don't really remember a whole lot else about the game, so I guess it doesn't leave the strongest impression if you only play it once (unlike many other games I played once yet still remember fairly well). Anyway, would love to hear you talk about Starfox Assault too! Best title track ever.
Yeah heck yeah! Love assault
I'm not sure how true this is, but I found a let's play by Rabbidluigi digging into how the Test of Strength gets harder the longer you spend in the match. That would be why beating him in the first 5 seconds is very easy compared to trying to beat him when you're taking too long.
Look, this is Rare, they made those button mash Races the way they did in Tooie: this is probably not that far fetched. Or maybe it is, who knows lol. I would love a re-release of this game, even tho the Test of Fear is very motion sickening (I think I had to mute the audio and cover most of the TV with pillows or a cardboard box just to get past it lmao)
That’s very interesting if true.
I personally loved pretty much everything about this game! Except the fact you didn't get to actually fight scales! I was a little sad though that you couldn't explore the Spellstone levels anymore after beating the bosses! I do wish this game could get a remake honestly
A remake with a few adjustments would show how much it can shine!! Give us Scales!!
The only problem, Nintendo or Rare removed almost every Krystal section
I agree!! Being able to switch between them as originally intended is awesome! The n64 build adds more for the warp stone and that mechanic. It’s cool!
I will always defend this game idc. It still looks great over 20 years later. And David Wise gave us a masterpiece of a musical score
It really does! It’s a beautiful game
I have always liked it. It's a fun little Zelda style action adventure
Favorite game because of Krystal also Assault
Krystal had young boy sweating 😅
I don't think the Star Fox series ever topped SF64. SF Assault came close and was an awesome game, but failed to include branching paths, which would've done wonders for that game's replay-ability.
With that said, SF Adventures ages better than the original SF SNES. If nothing else, it isn't marred by frequent slowdown and a clunky frame rate. That game was more so a showcase of the kind of 3D effects that the SNES was capable of and less so a fun, enjoyable game that ages well. The amount of slowdown that SF SNES has and the lack of a shooting cursor make that game a pain in the ass to play today. Plus, being a superior reboot of SF SNES, SF64 essentially rendered that game obsolete.
If someone dumped SF Adventures or SF SNES in front of me, I'd definitely play SF Adventures 100 times before playing SF SNES.
Yeah for sure. I’ve never been able to finish the original starfox because of the low framerate. It takes a lot of getting used to.
I can see why you like this game based on that thumbnail lmao 😏
Seeing Fox say he is a Knight.. that weird.
It would be like if Mario was a Power Armored "Plumber" blasting bugs.
I agree. It was jarring
Did anyone complain about the endless loop your save file gets stuck in at the end? After beating the game, you can boot up your file, but you straight into the Andross fight, then to the credits, and then back to the title screen. Unless I'm missing something, theres a point where theres no way back to the planet to look for secrets you missed. IMO, for a game like this, thats borderline game breaking.
@@relafleur5114 tbh I don’t remember that. I think everytime I’ve finished I’ve just been done, but that is ANNOYING AS HECK.
My main complaint was the linearity. It borrowed much from Zelda, but didn't have the same sense of freedom. It was also a shame that Krystal, the intended co-protagonist was relegated to a literal... Crystal. I was really hoping she would be "unlockable", and had her own moveset. What a disappointment.
Yeah I really wish they capitalized on her more.
The reason for me why people dunk on it is.. how "painful" it is to get to the Dungeons and the main parts.
Cloudrunner fortress was fine. The last area was cheeks.
But the temples and darkiron mine? Forgot it name but the mines? Arugh.
It felt like they scrapped all the stuff thay Legend of Zelda manage to not hit and the powers felt weird. I like blasting and freezing but it felt like weird to actually use them in combat.
Doe i think they could did something funky like have Fox get "bound" to Dinosaur Planet after dropping off the spirit and Krystal is able to switch places with him in special areas?
Krystal is nice but boi, literally putting a hot fox girl in tribal outfit in a Crystal?
I just picture the devs just blasting peopld and turning them into furries. 😂
You’re basically right on that last part I think. Lol
Great video I enjoyed it . 🙂
Thanks Noob :)
Np
It's a cute & charming game. I've always liked it. The GameCube also had Starfox assault.
Yeah which is another awesome game!
10:30 the only problem i had with tricky was the frequency that he said stuff lol other than that i liked him a lot personally
@@Taylor-bw4zg I’m hungry!!! A bad guy!!! Let’s play!!
Thank you once again, brother. I'd love to sit down and game with someone who appreciates games like yourself. I still can't understand how DK64 gets crapped on for having too many collectibles.. What kind of complaint is that. In 2000 that game was mind blowing. People don't appreciate passion. Star Fox Adventure really defines Gamecube for me.
Yeah it definitely is a vibe! Thanks for watching :)
Hot take: If Nintendo doesn’t want to do the classic formula for Zelda anymore and are committed to the open world design, they should continue the classic formula through star fox
That would actually be kind of awesome! Throw in more and longer sewing segments and I’m for it
Technically, Star Fox Command for the DS is a direct continuation as it takes everything that happened in this game and Assault as canon.
Zero retconned everything (including 64) but it's reception probably means we will never see another star fox in a while...
Yeah I own Command but honestly it wasn’t super memorable to me. It was fine.
I really hope we see a new Starfox soon. The series deserves more! Starlink was a cool thing!
Yoooo😭 the muscle foot part was definitely the reason why I couldn’t beat the game until a few years later🥲 after beating him when I got older you could of seen me jumping around with excitement
I remember it being hard for me. And this time made me laugh I beat him so fast.
Evidently there is a link to how easy it is based on your health. Same with the test of fear.
The more health you have the easier it is.
Grew up with this only knowing Fox from SSB64/Melee and with no exposure to Zelda. I absolutely adored this game as a kid, but could never get past the Test of Fear, so I never actually finished it. I should replay it one of these days
Yeah for sure you should! You got this
Its really a big question when "good" starts on a scale of 1-10 because this game is a solid 5/10. If graphics are super important to you, maybe a 6/10.
If this is good for you, its a good game.
Good is very subjective but generally yes I’d say 6-7.5 is good. 8-9 is great and 9.5-10 is a masterpiece.
5-5.5 is average
And anything below that is bad or below average.
I’d be inclined to put starfox around the 7 mark. I love the atmosphere and general vibes of this game plus I think the general gameplay is decent. Exploring is fun and the music is phenomenal. Has that Rare charm :) tho I can see why someone would rate it lower
Lol was just thinking of this game after seeing a quick review of Harry Potter chamber of secrets, another game I had on the cube. Love this game!! Funny timing that this video came out 8 hours ago.
Edit: Yeah, as a kid, I had trouble with the button mashing. :P
That is crazy timing! Thats awesome
I enjoyed the game when I was playing every star fox up to that point, wich it was 5 games at the time, no Zero, 64 3D, or official release of the canceled star fox 2 on the SNES. I just think that people that don't like it, they don't like it because it's too different. And some of the weak points of the game would had benefited from a 6 month of extra development time, but we all know by now why it would not be possible.
100%
Yes its the best zelda game on the gamecube
Judging a game from 20 years ago?
Anything after ps2 deserves to be judged like a modern game, after ps2 if a game was bad it was strictly the developer’s fault. After ps2 they had all the tools needed.
But now that I think about it. I can’t remember how long a had a ps2 when I got my GameCube... hmm... maybe I’m wrong about this one.
I played this game recently after wanting to play it for a long time, and loved it... except for one thing that actually kept me from finishing the game, and that is the aiming. It just doesn't work, it's too imprecise and jittery, I tried for hours on that part where you have to free the big dinosaur by shooting for targets in a time limit, I just couldn't do it. Apart from that, I really enjoyed my time with the game, but I just can't overlook such a huge design flaw.
The aiming does get pretty cruddy. I wouldn’t say it’s game breaking. But it has its moments for sure.
Amazing game that certainly adds to the Star Fox universe. Second only to Star Fox 64 and literally hated on due to Rare's sudden exit.
I am with you!!! Probably my second favorite starfox tho I do like assault as well
8:42 I don't remember getting past this to be difficult. But the Krazoa shrine just after was too difficult. During my first playthrough as a child, I stopped there and didn't touch the game for many years since then.
A lot of people said something similar!
At the time i remember being so disappointed with this zelda-lite game. I just felt it was a half way house between two super fun franchises. I agree with you that its an ok game, on its own merrit but would have prefered a really good (traditional) SF game or a really good (original IP) rare adventure. So this falls flat for me.
The rom of dinosaur planet feels even more rare which is awesome
The trial of fear is by far the most frustrating part of the game. Not even close.
Yes SFA is overhated for sure and I wish that Nintendo had an idea of how to move forward with Star Fox. Gotta be their most mishandled IP BY FAR
Yeah I’m with you. They need someone to come in and really take this IP forward.
I find it ironic that while the original game that was being developed probably would of probably been a bit better. If it had been released, it would probably of sold terribly due to the 64 being pretty much a dead console by the time the game would of been finished. Rare was at the beginning of it's downward spiral at that point. Starfox saved the game, for better or for worse. I'm glad it did as I loved the game as a kid and still do.
I do too, been playing the rom of the 64 game and boy oh boy does it feel like a Rare N64 game. I love it!
I am in the camp of not liking this game. However, i love when games branch out and try new things. I love Zelda and Zelda -type games.
To give credit where it's due, the game is definitely a showcase for graphics on the GameCube and it still holds up today. I also thought that the Arwing sections handled super well!
When i tried to go through this game, it was the combat that killed it for me. It was such a major slog to get through every enemy because of it consisted of just mash the 'A' button. Hitting different directions does add flair, but it would have been nice if enemies were weak to certain types of attacks (staff thrusts or overhead swings and whatnot).
I played the game in hopes of learning more of Star Fox lore but fighting enemies really knocked the wind out of my sails.
Though i don't like the game, i like that it pushed the series forward. I would totally support a sequel or even a remake/rerelease in some form. I've been a fan of the series since the SNES. The Star Fox series deserves more attention!
Thanks for the video! I enjoyed it 😁
I’m with you. I think personally the combat was its weakest point. After the first couple battles you’re just trying to get through enemies as quick as possible.
As a fan of RARE back in the N64 days since DKC2 on the SNES rocked my gaming childhood and Killer Instinct was my Mortal Kombat of fighting games. I followed the progress of StarFox Adventures from when it was first unveiled as Dinosaur Planet at E3 in 2000 until it's eventually release in September 2002.
I still defend the game to this day knowing that the developers at RARE put allot of work within the crunch time.
Love that!! Same! You’re in good company