A Journey Through EVERY Star Fox Game
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Star Fox started off very strong, but seemed to quickly lose its footing with a lot of questionable titles. Let's take a look at all of them.
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So what's your favorite game in the series? Are there any entries you think are better than people give them credit for?
Yeah that's gonna be a big *NO.*
I first played Starfox Assault on my Steam Deck, and I think the game would be 100x better if the on-foot segements controlled like Ratchet & Clank.
Also yes, Zero is a great game that is utterly destroyed by the awful controls and reliance on the dual screen gimmick.
@@JRWolfe-gd9cr I recommend Rocket Knight Adventures: Re-sparked!, and Bot Vice there like Star Fox Assault in 2d.
It bugs me so much that a lot of people who try out Star Fox Assault don’t realize that you can change the default tank controls to a more modern setup using the c stick to aim.
assault was also mainly designed for multiplayer considering how many options for modes you have in versus mode. on foot with modern controls works great for versus mode, but you can tell a lot of the campaign levels were made just to pad out a single player mode.
@@dude98a.k.adudewhereismyca84no not really, I never got that feeling even after being pointed out
And it's still ass to control when you change it bruv. Sorry to say. Legit nothing against you but the entire control scheme plus the optional change both sucked.
What do you expect from Nintendo fans? They do literally zero compromises when it comes to game controllers.
It was literally the first thing I did, maybe it's just my weird addiction to exploring options and settings every time I play a game for the first time but it's because of instances like that is why I always do it. (Also I enjoy Assault and on-foot combat seemed like an obvious next step and makes more sense than the Walker to me)
I always appreciated Assault for being the last Star Fox game tried to innovate on the gameplay without completely throwing out the formula. The Aparoids were both cool and kinda scary alternates to Andross and Star Fox and Star Wolf being able to team up together is just is a great idea.
I have to comment that the single most fucked up line in a nintendo game ever comes from Star Fox 64: Pigma's entry line when you encounter Star Wolf on Bolse is "Daddy screamed rreeeeaaaaal good before he DIED!" After selling out Fox's dad to Andross, to have the audacity to confront their kid and tell them their dad died like a bitch is just beyond evil.
That line always stuck with me when I played Star Fox 64. He is so vile for that.
I wouldn't mind if StarFox Assault got a remaster like TTYD for Switch or the successor
Yo the Star Fox Assault Multiplayer would be awesome with online and all Star Wolf members playable
There is a lot of potential and a lot of stuff you can see that if they had more time they would of added more missions to the single player like how there is no mission on Titania Desert, Zoness Sea Base or the Great Fox map on Single Player even though there is multiplayer maps of them.
There is obviously a lot of content they just never got enough time to get around to making what Star Fox Assault 100% needs is more Single Player Missions heck just add alternate route side missions between the big story missions.
You can tell they spent far more time perfecting the multiplayer especially when everything you unlock or the main 100% progression is entirely to unlock all the multiplayer features.
That's what I'm really hoping bandai namco has been working on. I need starfox back in my life
I would mind that very much, for the simple fact that the TTYD is a straight remake, that changes very little about how the game plays or is structured.
Assault is deeply flawed, not just in terms of controls, but mostly in the level design, pacing, incentives. A remake would be interesting but it should be an entire overhaul.
@@ruolbu I would disagree with the level design, pacing, and incentive. However I would take a reimagining as long as miyamoto little to no involvement and get more levels with online multiplayer and Co op.
Just a reminder that you can change your controls in Assault for modern dual analog controls if you keep complaining about the default controls. You're welcome.
My biggest disappointment with Star Fox Zero was the fact that I never got to try the co-pilot mode. NOBODY WANTED TO TRY IT WITH ME! I really liked the game and I wish I got to try that mode with friends.
Sounds fun. You still interested?
I love assault, it was so fun to play with friends where you could hop out of your arwing midflight to pull out a homing missile and fire at someone tailing you. I have no idea if it's competitive but we were all kids and it sure impressed us at the time. The campaign was also in my opinion pretty fun too, I liked the diversity of on foot, vehicle, and plane sections. It would be awesome to get a sequel but that's probably not gonna happen unless it's some indie inspired game
I find it absolutely ironic that I've avoided all of Star Fox for most of my life, and the first one I ever played all the way through when I decided to beat the games, was Star Fox Command, I loved the game enough to beat it all the way, something I didn't do with SF64 and the original SNES game. I later hunted all the other games down and now own copies of every game in the series. The same thing happened on my FNAF journey: I started with one game, coincidentally the one most of the fans consider inferior and the most hated in the series, and I ended up loving it enough to buy the whole series.
People have gone far as calling me "Not a real fan" because I joined the hype so late, but I gotta say, if I'm not a real fan, there never will be at this point, no? NEVER judge a game series by its community. They might collectively, mind-hive themselves into hating something you'll end up loving, or loving something you might hate.
I loved command and I've played every other one before I played it.
What was the fnaf game?
@@alexanderthegreat-mx5zu five nights at Freddy's
@@osets2117 The first one? No one thinks that one aged badly, if anything, it's the only one that's respected by critics outside the community. That's probably not what you meant,your dumbass thought that I don't know what fnaf is, seriously?.
Star Fox is probably the franchise I'd like to see use the "Capcom Test" of all things, release a collection on Switch with ports of all the previous games, while including ports of 64 3D and Command that are adjusted for normal controls and one screen. It's kind of a shame how people really enjoy it but haven't gotten more than like, 3 or 4 great games in 30 years.
Star Fox Zero I had a lot of fun with despite its flaws. A shame it hasn't got a Switch port like many of the other Wii U heavy hitters, it deserves a second chance at life
It's for the best that it doesn't. Too tied to the gamepad for standard controls, and being a rehash of lylat wars. Are we really okay pushing this false narrative that StarFox is only one game, fans don't want or even like change, or that just want to play the same game over and over?
@@kurokamina8429Star Fox Zero is a totally unique experience, it’s a fantastic game with deep mechanics. But those deep mechanics, like you said, are the reason it won’t be ported. There just too many advanced moves you can’t do with Star fox 64 controls. It’s just a different game.
I also hated the story from adventures to command. It was wise to restart.
@@harrisonkasun7542 about that... Nintendo never stated that it was a reboot but just a reimagining. Reimagining is just another term they slap on a title like a remake or remaster. Look at Metroid ZERO Mission, its called a reimagining by the creator but it did not reboot the series. Also Star Fox Zero resembles 64 so much because A. Miyamoto felt like the 64 style would work with his gimmick and B. It's Miyamoto, of course he's gonna use lylat wars again.
Also StarFox Zero the battle begins name drops Sauria and starlink DLC references DP with the Corneria Cake. A very weird reboot if they are using elements 64 purist would despise. Also one of the trailers for zero was the "the history of StarFox" which is weird to do if it's a reboot. Wouldn't you want to leave it all in the past?
Star Fox Zero is the lylat wars from a different perspective and exists in the same spot as the original starfox and 64. They are interchangeable in the timeline.
Also commands ending sucks but Star Fox Assault story is the best in the entire series.
@@kurokamina8429command doesn't have an ending, or to put it more accurately doesn't have a canon ending. Which was a weird thing to do
@@osets2117 originally Imamura wanted to make a linear story but Cuthbert wanted the game to have alternative routes which results in the game having multiple different endings. This was a bad idea, even though 64 had different endings, there were only two and were different enough to be special while still being sort of the same. Command however are so different, weird, forced, or inconclusive.
"Star Fox has been threaded better than F-ZERO"
Sure, I'd love to see another F-ZERO game someday but even more than a new Star Fox or F-ZERO game I'd love to see a third Startropics game but I'm probably alone on that.
StarFox was my first game I played when my aunt gave me her SNES back in highschool. It was such a wild impression of the SNES, and it's still one of my favorite games on the system.
When I went to Portland Retro Game Expo a couple years later (where in fact, I believe I met you) I found a vendor selling Nintendo Power mags, and I specifically located an issue with a StarFox poster, and it's been on my wall ever since...
Time to do a barrel roll
I think part of the issue is that the entire Star Fox continuity has been massively complicated by the existence of Command. How do you continue forward from a game that has like a billion endings, other than just retconning the entire thing? Not that I (or probably most people) would be against it, but it feels like the creatives at Nintendo just don’t know what direction to take.
They should start back up from Assault. Maybe even remake it first instead of the og game for the 5th time.
Bite the bullet and just pick an ending to make canon. The default ending can work because It's the default (and thus could be argued the rest are what ifs) and is something of a status quo reset.
Or do a next generation game with Marcus leading a new team against Dash's empire. That seemed like a good setup.
Or screw it, go nuts and continue the Fox/Falco become racers and Krystal a bounty hunter timeline and go from there.
@@t.dmattocks6119 I recommend Rocket Knight Adventures: Re-sparked!, and Bot Vice there like Star Fox Assault in 2d.
@@StarWolf5298There is another option that was brought up by the creators of command. That being starting in the middle of commands story. This option I think is basically a reimagining or a rewrite of commands story which is more preferable. This is a better option because if they changed the style of the gameplay to 64 or Assault then they would have to change how the story is told.
Fox and Krystals drama was WAY more of a focus then the Anglars which feel like an after thought. They can't do that with a 64 style they have to make the Anglars be the focus so the drama between fox and Krystal would be retconned or just something in the prolog that doesn't amount to anything because they are just teammates now.
There’s endings in that game that set everything back to the normal. It’s really not that hard to pick an ending that doesn’t mess with anything
29:35 “You have to play 400 times just to see the grossest Ken Penders ass renditions of the Star Fox cast.”
Holy shit that line slayed me.
I just wish they weren't so gung ho on rebooting it so many times and retelling the first game's storyline.
It felt so frustrating to find out Zero would retell Star Fox 1's story again. I wanted a new story with some of the later game characters appearing like Krystal.
Starfox is one of my favorite games ever. I actually did a walkthrough through Cornaria when I was in college. I recorded myself playing through the stage on a VHS and explained how to walk through the stage just by the sounds. I love this game so much
I just want to say thank you. I have been looking into getting Star Fox Zero the past several days (late to the game I know) and this video comes out in the meantime. Yours is the only video I’ve seen that even bothers to mention that the motion controls can be switched off and that the screens can be switched with the minus button. Why does no one else mention this? Anyway, thanks again, and I’ll probably be picking up Star Fox Zero now!
*I'LL. NEVER UNSEE THAT GIMME UNSEE JUICE*
While I never heard of the workarounds mentioned in the video, I did enjoy playing Star Fox: Zero anyway. Something I think could be neat for the next Star Fox game would be to bring back the different ships & playable characters from Star Fox: Command, but mix in the on-rails shooter gameplay from the main series.
A couple things to note, There are mods for the original Star Fox to make it run at a proper framerate and not 5 FPS and even if Star Fox 64 3D looks a lot prettier, the voice acting took a major hit.
Cool, it's rare that I find a video that talks about these games in a way I can relate. For the most part. I'm more harsh towards Zeros failings, but still consider it better than the GC or DS games.
I love Starfox 64, starfox Adventures, and Starfox assault.
thanks for helping me find one of my childhood games! gonna love replaying starfox assault (i think... i hope)
As a kid, I had played the SNES and N64 ones and I was a big fan of Nintendo characters. But I hated the on rails gameplay haha
I wanted to play them on foot like in Smash more than anything and Adventures and Assault are the ones that excited me the most. Still my favorites because of this bizarre reason
Very pleased to hear you enjoyed 2. It's probably my personal favorite in the series; the combination of arcade dogfighting with RTS elements is surprisingly engaging, especially on the higher difficulties.
I think the broader problem Star Fox has is that it's a genre that has, unfortunately, fallen out of favor over the years. Shmups were a-dime-a-dozen during the NES and SNES days, and there were still a decent number of 'em in the N64/Playstation era. After that, they started to kinda die out, with other genres taking their place instead. Nowadays, that kind of gameplay seems to only crop up in indie titles and the occasional remake.
That's also why I think Zero was doomed from the start - marketing such an out-of-vogue genre as a big-shot system-seller was never going to end well, even if the game itself wasn't saddled with the motion control issues. I'd call it a safe bet that, if we ever get another Star Fox game, it probably won't be a shmup - and if it is, it'll be a budget-title at best. Which kinda sucks.
Star Fox 64 3D was my introduction to the series when I was a kid.
And agreed, it was arcady and replayable as hell. I went for Higher scores each run, perfecting my routes through each level, rememberihg where enemies would come so i could shoot them down.
Idk how it was on N64, but on the 3DS your score at the end would be displayed as a sort of "paycheck" for general pepper and he would comment on it. And if you get a very high score (as in, Peoper has to pay star fox a lot for this job) he would say "Whaaat? I cant believe it!"
Man was I proud as a kid to send Pepper a super high bill xD
Have you looked at star fox event horizon? Its a fan made game thats slowly gathering steam
I love Star fox so much it’s really awesome series and tons of fun growing up in my opinion.
I really do hope that Star Fox Zero gets a second shot at life through an enhanced port, cause dang it it needs it. Aside from that a true sequel to Star Fox 64 is a must, it's many people's favorite Nintendo game including mine.
This is just a bad idea in general. Too much work would need to be made to make it work on switch with traditional controls which is what people wanted. Even if they just port it but made the aiming radical accurate, people still won't give it a chance. It has a bad reputation that it can't undo.
This is ignoring the fact that we would be getting Lylat wars again. Are the general audience right? Are starfox fans really just a bunch people who doesn't like change? That they despises anything that isn't 64 again? Is this series not a series but just one game? This is the narrative right now around starfox.
Let's move on!
99% of Assault is on foot.
Like, did you even play more than the first two missions!? 2 missions are entirely rail shooting, and 1 is mostly rail shooting with a short all range section for fighting the Aparoid Queen. The all-range Arwing and the LandMaster are both available in part or in entirety for all of 6 missions with one of those being entirely all-range Arwing combat in Orbital Gate. That's 9 missions where it is majority vehicles with some parts here and there where it is absolutely necessary to jump out and go on foot and not really for that long, with the exception being Corneria City.
This is exactly where StarFox Zero came from lol. That game was awful, but I think it was kinda earned.
If you already own Starfox Zero highly recommend trying the co-op mode. Me and my brother had alot of fun playing it that way.
Just last week I started making my way through the series, so it was so nice to stumble into this!
If Assault had only a couple more flight missions I think people would consider it an all-time classic. And Command, to me, is a fun spin-off if you take it on its own terms.
I think I'll try Starlink sometime, curious to see if it can scratch the same itch!
I haven't played Zero but the thing i think is that Zero is the video game equivalent of Cilantro where it's either delicious or tastes like soap just based on your body make up, in Zero's case your brain makeup. The bad or good qualities are hard to perceive a lot of the time because it literally just don't exist in the respective person's brain wiring.
I'd love an anime show or a movie of Stair Fax.
Loved Starfox 64 3D. One of the games were the 3D felt great, and it made GREAT use of the 3DS amazing gyro. I also am of the opinion that portable systems are far superior to any home console. I used to play Starfox 64 3D up in a tree, just chilling there and being fully immersed - something a TV-screen would never be able to do. Heck, even a Switch is too big to comfortably play like that. I really hope they'll start doing fully portable systems again, that can fit in your pocket. It really is the optimal way to play any non-online game, imo, but I don't really see that happening anytime soon.
I don't understand the handheld aversion
I liked Star Fox Zero but even with the motion controls set to only activate when you shoot it just felt clunky to me.
Something i only found out recently thats not a barrel roll 😅 its sometimes called an aleron roll if i spelled that right but anyway a barrel roll is basically a summersault going around vertical like a barrel lol makes sense when you realise that
I was a game cube kid and grew up on Assault and Adventures, i understand why people hate them but i absolutely loved Assault, when i played 64 i ended up feeling that it was a step back. So in my humble opinion and it is my OPINION. I prefer assault to 64.
Same
Never tried SFZero because I never touched a Wii U, but hearing you can change the control schemes and use just one screen to play makes me wanna try it on an emulator.
The changed controls still don't work
First minute of the video already addresses the thing I hate the most about Star Fox, that Nintendo just doesn't seem to ever want to make a Star Fox game. They just seem to think every Star Fox game just needs to be something weird or experimental when the thing we've always wanted the most was an actual proper sequel to 64 (maybe Assault depending on how much you liked that game) that wasn't just a 64 remake.
Star Fox Assault definitely is a sequel. Star Fox 64 was going to have an on foot version of venom that got scrapped but saved for multiplayer. Star Fox Assault was just returning to that idea and expanded on it.
I feel like the series itself is replicating the Original Star Fox's Difficulty Selection. Given how much they rebooted the series and retold the same tale, there might as well be alternate Timelines.
Route / Level 1: Star Fox 1+2. A straight shot from Corneria to Venom.
Route / Level 2: Star Fox 64 / 64 3D, Adventures, Assault, and Command. More fleshed out than Route 1, with a bigger variety of characters and stages. (Doesn't mean they're all winners, though.)
Route / Level 3 (unfinished): Star Fox Zero, Guard, and Starlink (i guess). Much harder to master than Route 2, but the stages are more fast paced. Since we haven't gotten a new Star Fox game in a while, this route is unfinished.
And also, the Original Star Fox would be Route 1 Corneria, Star Fox 64 would be Route 2 Corneria, and Star Fox Zero would be Route 3 Corneria.
Feel free to tell me where I'm wrong.
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Honestly, I feel like Nintendo had Rareware change DP to SFA due to them being an outgoing 2nd party.
Nintendo is not dumb, they most likely didn't want Rares original IP landing on a Microsoft platform and knew having their own licensed character, Fox, would avoid this
Starlink starfox is more faithful than most of the actual franchise lmao
To be honest I never really tried a single StarFox (Or StarWing/LylatWars or whatever they were called over here). But this video peaks my interest. Gotta try one.
I think Star Fox Adventures is pretty fun. It's pretty flawed in a lot of places but I at least like that it was something different.
YES! Finally found someone who sees that Star Fox Zero is a damn good game!
It's a good game. Its just the tipical terminally online Nintendo fan is so afraid to step out of their comfort zone that they actively crap on things that are even a slightly different than the thing they liked when they were kids (which ranges from like a year ago to 20 years ago hilariously enough)
Star fox is probably thebmost fertile ground for a movie
I miss them.
After hearing your thoughts on zero.
I ALSO LOVE STAR FOX ZERO!!! It’s probably a skill issue for the people who hated the game and not even giving it a shot.
Are the controls bad yeah the game has flaws but it’s not bad at all and the side content it has is very fun especially if you use an amibo you can have a playable snes arwing with the sound effects and blasters and the music.
When you progress you can have extra levels where you can see what the villains are doing and the little animated short the battle begins was very fun to watch.
This series has so much potential to be on par with Mario Sonic Pac Man etc. but Nintendo being Nintendo never wants to give ips that are not the ones they are currently using another shot.
Starlink starfox is pretty great and worth more attention than you gave it. It's like a whole different game than the original game on other consoles and feels like a real starfox experience.
I'm glad to see a youtuber finally mention that Starfox has been remaked and rebooted so many flippin' times.
Hope this series does come back but I want it to focus on appealing to next generation, not us old gen gamers please ignore our boomerness and focus on appealing to the future gen gamers with starfox.
Btw Slippy in recent years has become more beloved mostly because we've experienced people are ment to be professional but are clumsy at times but still likable. I do feel sorry for the character getting so much unwanted hate. We all think we're hot shit until we make mistakes.
I feel like Assault was close to what next gen StarFox fans would want. It really just needed a sequel to flesh out all its ideas.
Personally, I never had a problem with Zero’s controls. Or Assault, or command. Of those 3 Zero is definitely my favorite, but I should play it again to be sure. I actually recently replayed every other Starfox game, but I just started up Mario Sunshine, I’m not ready to bring out the Wii U just yet.
Adventures and Assault are awesome, but the map layouts bothered me the most. Adventures had no fast travel, despite having a “warp stone,” so going from one area to another just seemed like unnecessary padding. Assault would’ve been better if I could find the things I was looking for. Probably my fault but the layouts don’t help.
Melee was probably the best Starfox game, though I do prefer Ultimate. With that said, you can’t beat Fox’s characterization in Subspace Emissary.
Starlink had potential, unfortunately everything is paywalled, boring gameplay loops, and the characterization of Wolf in particular was atrocious. they acted like he was evil and wanted to take over the Lylat system for some reason. I mean, he would do it, but if only someone hired him first. Wait… there’s dlc I never played. maybe I missed something or idk it was a long time ago. 10/10
And lastly, Kid Icarus is my favorite 3DS game. Coincidentally, a perfect blueprint for what Starfox could be.
I never played the ds or wii u ones..so I'm not going to judge them. Wait, i tried the ds one for 3 mins & i said no no. The touch screen controls wasn't the problem. I'm fine with touch screen games. That game just felt weird to play 🤷🏾♀️ i forgot the wii u was a thing. I haven't bought anything from them since the original wii. I keep thinking is wii then switch 😅 but the wii u was a thing. I hace to check it out one day.
Everything you said about zero's controls makes it all the more annoying they haven't put it on switch
A lot of my family feels the same way we don't like the other Star Fox games to me Star Fox avengers is the best one that's just my opinion I know it's not the general opinion but that's just how I feel and my family feels the same way
Ah Star Fox Zero
A remake of Star Fox 64
That had a remake made of it a few years prior of it's release
Star Fox 64 which is pretty much a remake of Star Fox 1
Oh and there's thought of another Star Fox 64 remake? Funderful
Can... can we stop this? There are 9 star fox games and almost half are the same game.
FR, do we want to push this false narrative that StarFox is just one game? Or that StarFox fans hate changs, or that they just want the same game over and over? I don't think so
ooo cool
Why does Nintendo hate Starfox, retro gamers and making too much money?
engagement
sponsorblock and annoying reminder segments added... your welcome chat
@nintendo starfox 64; 2 for switch please
Star fox commands controls are AT LEAST 20 times more enjoyable to use then Star Fox Zero. This video feels like straight up propaganda
Ex-Zodiac, that is all
I've always preferred Assault over 64, & that's mostly because I actually dislike the on rails levels, I want freedom to fly wherever I want & I want to play as Fox McCloud sometimes, not an Arwing. Don't get me wrong, Assault is not the perfect best game ever made, I feel it's more of like a 'blueprints' for what Star Fox could've been in the future, but because all the 64 fans complained & complained about Assault, that gave Nintendo the impression that Assault was all bad & thus we got the biggest downgrade in the history of video gaming, Star Fox Command, & since that game sold incredibly terribly, Nintendo thought that no one liked Star Fox anymore so they didn't make another game in the series for almost 6 years. So at that point in time, 2011, the rise of gen z had already begun in video gaming, & thus, a different taste in gaming. Star Fox 64 3D was a decent remake, but it was made for the wrong console, it could've gotten the Final Fantasy 7 treatment on the Wii U & it could've been the best thing ever, but Nintendo felt the need to make it feel more like a port & less like a remake on the 3DS; & Star Fox 64 3D couldn't even sell half as much as Star Fox 64 did. The majority of gen z has little to no interest in on rails 90's arcade games, so basically making a modern version of Star Fox 64 (Star Fox Zero) was not a good idea, which is part of the reason why it is the worst selling Star Fox game in the history of Star Fox. All these other franchises; Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Fire Emblem (which shouldn't be more popular than Star Fox, but it is now apparently) have all changed & adapted to the modern times, but at the same time still making call-backs to the older games. I'm not saying that Star Fox should change to Metal Gear type gameplay, I'm saying that an on rails only Arwing Star Fox game cannot sell well in 2024, Star Fox needs its Breath of the Wild, it needs its Mario Kart 8, it needs its Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, it needs its number one best game ever made in the modern day & age.
Oh, yeah, Zero's a reboot, which is another one of the worst decisions for any franchise weather it's a movie, a book, a video game, 'cause all a reboot is, is basically the developers coming out & saying 'Hey, remember the franchise that everyone fell in love with, well, we're throwing it in the trash & starting over from scratch'.
Star Fox Zero was atrocious
Timestamps for your convenience:
2:53 Star Fox
7:47 Star Fox 64 (+64 3D)
13:00 Star Fox Adventures
18:57 Star Fox Assault
24:06 Star Fox Command
29:44 Star Fox Zero (and Guard)
36:48 Star Fox 2
Not only did Krystal became fully integrated into SF, she effectively became the defacto lead female character of the franchise while Fara Phoenix (from a tie in comic to SF1), Miyu, Fay, and to a lesser extent Katt all fell by the wayside.
To be fair, Fara phoenix, Miyu, and Fay are all characters that weren't made by Imamura and so didn't survive the transition to 64 or future games. Star Wolf survived the transition because Imamura made those characters. Katt is a side character that isn't apart of the team and disappears as soon as she arrived (like seriously she shows up in the fortuna level in zero and just disappears, didn't even help fight the two headed dragon). Not at all ment to bash on Katt.
Krystals coming back in later titles despite not originally being a StarFox is actually interesting because the Krystal we get is not only a Star Fox Character but a nintendo character. Weird I know, let me explain so during development of Adventures Rare made plans to remove Krystal completely but Imamura wanted to keep her. He did a redesign of her to be the blue fox with little being covered. That one redesign of her, that one moment if wanting to removed her cause her to become a StarFox character and a nintendo character. She was remade by Imamura (who designs and writes StarFox) and who was at the time a Nintendo employee. It also helps that Miyamoto liked her too.
@@kurokamina8429 In conclusion: Japanese Man Horny For Female Vixen.
That's because none of them showed up again or "at all". Star Fox2 was cancelled. Krystal is a mess. And everyone else was simply not important. And the narrative that Star Fox 64 kicked off with made everything much MUCH worse. Just when they had the chance to start fresh....look at what they did. Great ideas for gameplay. And suddenly nobody's heads were screwed on straight. They were legit so lost and confused, it's no wonder why Zero had no arcade mode, didn't do anything to curb all the misinformation, flubbed the whole portals plotpoint, and rehashed a Star Fox 64's story in a more disjointed way. They literally could have just done OG Star Fox or anything else and gotten away with it. In the end, their attempt to cater to OG, SF2, and SF64 fans sank with the Wii U.
i thought katt became krystal in adventures and assault
@@GoogleMapsTablet no, Katt returns in Command along side Krystal. Granted Imamura changed her design completely in that game. Changed her fur from pink to a black and white cat. She's dressed like she's was trying to cosplay a mortal kombat character.
“Five Nights at Slippy’s” actually sounds scarier than “Five Nights at Freddy’s.”
Just imagine;
You’re in an enclosed room with barely any lights. You ran out of power because you closed the door trying to keep the green, slimy, bipedal mutant from getting to you. The doors? Open. Your defenses? Non-existent. Then, from the shadows of what was once your only hope (now unusable), you hear the faint, bone-chilling voice of what a child of the Grim Reaper would sound like say…
*“AH! I’M HIT!”*
"I GOT YOU NOW!"
"ESCAPING? I DON'T THINK SO!!"
"Hi, Fox, it's Slippy. Seems like you need some help"
"Slippy here! Got yourself stuck (voice crack) aGaiN?!"
The number of times that Slippy says in Star Fox Adventures, "YOU MISSED A GOLD RING!" made me want to throw my controller at the TV
They kept him true to character, at least.
Stop missing gold rings. :p
Sounds like the Star Fox experience
I honestly think there is like a brain wiring thing with Starfox Zero that makes it fucking infuriating to play for most people. Since people who actually find the controls fine literally cannot grasp why so many people hate it. I kind of reminds me of how some of us just cannot use VR without getting motion sickness.
You're so dang right. I hate motion controls with a passion, my hands are never steady when playing games so if I'm forced to use motion controls alongside regular stick controls, well there goes my aim. The game quite literally fights against me
I think the controls were fine. This isn't the only game to have done this and it is quite common among games with tanks or people able to shoot out of their car like in GTA. It's obvious where Star Fox Zero went wrong with the controls. The devs trusted people too much to not be idiots. Like giving a someone a cooking knife and asking him to chop up whatever fast. Do you have any idea how many cut themselves because they don't know where their hand actually is?
Here's one better? How many people have you seen go in the direction they are looking? Instead of realizing they can shoot independent of where they're going?
How many crashed because of their complete lack of awareness?
And that's not consider the mountain of misinformation people circle jerked around. There was no fighting that because it this is a Nintendo game. Morons will brush you off like some fanboy even if you prove them wrong.
Or how some people hate cilantro?
Actually, Assult has multiple control schemes. The default is Tank but twin stick controls are an option
This ☝️
@TheSupersmash97 kind of funny because during Zero he pretty much said changing from the default control scheme is a no brainer
@litestudios exactly and what so funny is changing the controls setting actually does save assualt and changing the controls in Zero still makes that game a miserable experience. I feel like him saying he likes Zero is just him trying to be a hipster
No I disagree. I loved Zero
@@dr.wolfstar1765 i mean while there are ppl out there that like things that are objectively bad just to be contrarian... i don't think gilly is one of them. it's p typical to get annoyed when reviewers miss a glaring opt-out function of a feature they don't like, because reviewers can often make or break game sales. if they miss something huge that could make the game more playable/enjoyable, then that means that people are most likely never gonna know it was even an option in the first place. pretty simple logic here.
that being said, it's still kinda funny that he totally missed changing the control scheme on assault by that same token. my guess is that he just assumed that it wasn't a thing since a lot of older games didn't give you the option to change the entire control scheme, only things like inverting the camera and other such minor options. still funny tho.
I think Assault while nowhere near perfect would've been a good foundation for future entries if refined. Imagine a snappy and quick game that encouraged you to swap back and forth betwen Arwing, foot, landmaster, and back to arwing. Along with more levels themed around full on range mode
You are not the only one, its actually something that's been growing in recent years and I'm here for it!
There is a lot of potential it has the best multiplayer in the series it just needs a more fleshed out single player with more Single Player Missions heck just add alternate route side missions between the big story missions.
Also how there is no mission on Titania Desert, Zoness Sea Base or the Great Fox map on Single Player even though there is multiplayer maps of them.
Plus fun fact tank controls do not exist if you actually select the good Dual Stick controls.
Online multiplayer would be epic with all star wolf team members playable
@@patyos2 I recommend Rocket Knight Adventures: Re-sparked!, and Bot Vice there like Star Fox Assault in 2d.
Oh boy, drumroll if the required Dinosaur Planet mention will happen🥁
Edit: Hurray! Now play the Restoration of the N64 game!
There's a restoration now?
@@t.dmattocks6119 I don’t think I can post links; but there’s a discord! They have a Wiki page with the link, or you can use the join link in Stumblyn’s old TH-cam Playthroughs description!
My idea for a modern Star Fox would be like 80% Arwing and 20% on-foot missions, kinda like a longer version of Assault with better ground control. Maybe introduce some of Fox’s Smash moveset as extra tools, like using the Reflector as a limited shield or using Fox Illusion to zip between cover or flash behind enemies for a few free shots before they realize where you went.
Yes agree what Star Fox Assault 100% needs is more Single Player Missions heck just add alternate route side missions between the big story missions.
Also there is no Titania Desert, Zoness Sea Base or the Great Fox map on Single Player even though there is multiplayer maps of them.
You can tell they spent far more time perfecting the multiplayer especially when everything you unlock or the main 100% progression is entirely to unlock all the multiplayer features.
People like to rag on about the on-foot sections but also seem to forget they were also part of Star Fox 64's multiplayer. Honestly, most people not liking it comes across as a skill issue.
@@doclouis4236 Most people never unlocked the on-foot on Star Fox 64 because you had to 100% complete the game with all medals obtained in every mission in both Normal and Expert Mode.
I recommend Rocket Knight Adventures: Re-sparked!, and Bot Vice there like Star Fox Assault in 2d.
@@doclouis4236 they sucked in multiplayer. It was just a funny novelty to be so tiny and hard to hit with the arwing. But the on foot gameplay in SF64 itself sucked. It wasnt something you were going to enjoy for very long.
btw in Star Fox Assault you can choose your control style, you should of selected the standard Dual Stick shooter controls instead of tank controls lol Also Star Fox Assault has the best Multiplayer in the entire series.
Man I wish I had a counter of the number of hours my friends and I put into Assault’s multiplayer. Yeah, there are better shooters, but the maps in Assault were a ton of fun
Starfox Adventures and Windwaker were my rainy day games as a kid. Great memories
Same
Star Fox reminds me of Terminator. They had one story, but wholly incapable of expanding on it, so we just get remakes of the first with slight changes to make them stand apart, but its mostly the same game every time.
To its credit, Salvation....well....tried to expand the world and story.
34:11 can I just say I hate it when people try to say you can turn off the motion controls even though you clearly can not. The control option literally defeats the purpose of an off option because it doesn't stay off. You want it off so you can aim and shoot in the traditional way, but the option in question literally activates when you don't want it to.
Yea the control pitch was just coping. I played zero so much wanting it to be fun and even playing with the control scheme. Even at it best as a star fox title the controls are workablebut not acceptable for the series.
Star Fox Assault is my favorite entry in the series. The Story is obviously peak in the series but the gameplay is the really fun part. The on rail sections is obviously great but the on foot missions were really cool and would really benefit from a sequel or a reimagining of the game to polish its ideas. They are missions that took starfox 64 and took it to the next level by letting you switch between vehicles on the fly. Handling a situation however you want to handle it. In a way its an entry more in line with modern nintendos FREEDOM philosophy. Mario, Zelda, and pokemon going into this open sandbox where the player can go and do whatever how ever they want to.
I am really happy that after Zero came out that people came back to these older entries and realized that they were treating them too harshly. Some even started to feel like Star Fox Assault had the right idea and it just needed a gameplay sequel.
I really recommend giving Assault another go but using the duel stick control option the game provides when you create a user.
lol yes just use the Dual Stick controls lol why did he use the tank controls lol
Star Fox Assault is absolute Peak
Star Fox is just like Paper Mario, in the sense that it arguably peaked with the first two games and was literally never the same since.
That comparison cuts way deeper than I want to admit. XD
Except Super Paper Mario is the true peak of Paper Mario
@@funcoolfunfun I loved that one too actually, but I don't like the "experimental" era it started in the series.
The absolute peak of Star Fox pretty much stopped at Star Fox Assault on GameCube
@@funcoolfunfun lol
Nintendo actually did have a really amazing game that switched between an on rails shooter and on foot shooter on the 3DS, which quickly became my favorite 3Ds game of all time. Thing this is, it happened to be a Kid Icarus reboot by our lord and savior Daddy Sakurai of all things.
Unfortunately, I don't see them doing that type of game anytime soon, but if they take elements from that game and mix them with Star Fox, I feel like we'd have a winner.
That game annoys me for the simple fact that it sounds like star fox assault 2 and that the starfox IP was an option for his game.
A major issue with the series is that it's had so many different developers over the years (Argonaut Software, Rare, Namco, PlatinumGames). Nintendo needs to know by now what makes a Star Fox game great... on rail, loveable chatty characters, and quick replayable levels. I still have hope for the franchise.
I actually really liked the on-foot missions in Assault. The controls could have been better, yes, and I wish they would have tried this in a future game to improve them. Combined with the story and characters, Assault is actually my second favorite Star Fox game, after the 64 one.
Miyu and Fay were essentially retooled into Bill and Katt, while Algy became Andrew. Although all of them are distinct enough to be separate characters.
I mean when it comes to Miyu fans really lean on her tomboy trait to differ from Katt.
Finally someone other than me who likes Star Fox Zero!
You can change the tank controls in assault, maybe growing up with that game is why I almost instantly looked for control options when zero came out
First thing I did in zero was to disable as much of the gyro stuff as possible
@@patyos2even after doing that it's still annoying to control
I feel like almost everybody has a franchise or two where they're like "Yeah, I really like it!" but they actually only love one or entries, but the ones they do love, they love a lot. And that's perfectly okay.
And yes, bring back Fay. We need so much more Fay.
Assault is very underrated in my opinion, my nephews just loved playing the multiplayer mode with me so many times, there's a lot of options to play there, you can go on foot, on the Arwing or on the Landmaster, the storymode has way too many walking sections but in general is a pretty solid game and I loved they kept the story of the characters going rather than resetting it to the beginning like in Zero, it's not better than Zero but it's way better than Adventures and Command imo.
I honestly think there is like a brain wiring thing with Starfox Zero that makes it fucking infuriating to play for most people. Since people who actually find the controls fine literally cannot grasp why so many people hate it. I kind of reminds me of how some of us just cannot use VR without getting motion sickness.
Actually I think it comes down to:
1. In consistent learning curve: You can start really high or really low. Both in how fast it clicks and patients.
2. How the game was marketed: It really came across that you need to bounce back and forth between two screens so people did that when they got it.
3. How the game teaches you to play: Basically number 2 but also not mentioning the minus button or the other control option. I had to search online to learn you can do any of those things.
4. Coming expecting traditional controls or even hoping that they are an option. It hurts when a game is so close to what you want but is completely sabotaged by a forced gimmick.
5. Mixed fan base: The series has gained fans believe it or not from the likes of Adventures, Assault and even command and they all have their own expectations for the series and the game didn't meet it.
I love starfox assault. The multi-player was a favorite. I wish it was longer and had more story stages
I recommend Rocket Knight Adventures: Re-sparked!, and Bot Vice there like Star Fox Assault in 2d.
I feel like Star Fox Zero is due for an enhanced port. Having a more standard control scheme & some more original levels would do wonders for the game. Maybe even throw in the vs. multiplayer mode from the 64 game for good measure.
As someone who got all the medals, understood the controls, expiramented traditional controls, and considering the state of the series...no. You might as well be asking for a brand new game which you should be anyways.
StarFox Zero was made around the gamepad, it was a wii u gamepad game first and foremost then a starfox game. Try to give it traditional controls and give the walker 3rd person controls and guess what? You can actually get through the levels but you more then likely won't be able to get all of the medals or the high scores because of how the enemies are placed. Even the boss are gonna be an ass to beat without them. Even if they could it would still be lylat wars again. People outside of the community laugh at us because of narratives like "The StarFox series is only one game" "StarFox fans don't like or want change" "StarFox fans just want to play the EXACT SAME GAME over and over again". Getting a port of zero is the last thing the series needs.
This is what I thought too. But then I played it and I no longer think that anymore.
@@kurokamina8429What's funny about the whole Starfox Zero debacle was people kept whining and complaining at Nintendo to make a game that takes advantage of the Wii U gamepad and once they got it in Starfox Zero it was suddenly too complicated for them and crapped on it even though it was exactly what people were asking for.
I've been on a StarFox binge myself lately and suddenly one of my favorite TH-camrs makes a Starfox video. Funny how that works out.
I figured the assault section would go like that. While it's not perfect assault was a blueprint that they SHOULD have gone with. A better balance of gameplay modes and more fleshed out objectives would have been perfect going forward but nope. Command had to exist
Also can we stop pretending that ground control is THAT bad? It's got the same control screen as Metroid prime save for one button and even then there is a twin stick option. And while something like this shouldn't factor into a review I'm pretty sure most people who have never played assault before are going to emulate it so just, use the twin stick option and modify the controls in the emulator and it's fine.
I also really enjoyed Star Fox Zero. Be on rail stuff is fantastic as always and the all range mode isn't super bad until it requires lock on precision
Yoooooo same!
Star Fox Zero is a lot of things but gorgeous isn’t one of them. The game is not that bad to me either but it looks like complete ass 😅
Loved Star Fox Assault as a kid 🙂
I've actually never played any Starfox game EXCEPT Adventures. I didn't really know anything about the franchise and thought I was learning about it through that game. It wasn't until years later I learned the true story.
Adventures will always hold a special place for me though. I thoroughly enjoyed it.