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- World of Tanks - Tiger. Ace badge and a retrospective rant about the Tiger.
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My grandpa fought in WWII in the Hell on Wheels tank company and spoke of the Panthers legendary performance, so I went for the Panther. He commented how comparatively easy the Tiger was to flank when compared to the Panther. His recollection was that both were damn near impossible to penetrate from the front with M4 Shermans and Hellcats.
It must have been amazing to hear those kind of experiences first hand.
QuickyBabyTV True... Did you know that Otto Carius just passed away in January this year? Well, I was not aware of that. Would've been amazing to listen to his stories too I think...
+Patrick Richter I can't imagine if Michael Wittman had taken the position of an instructor training tankers and survived WW2. His skill in armored warfare is simply astonishing.
+Florian Schiemann Yes, Kurt Knispel did have a higher number of kills than Wittmann, however Knispel was a very rebel character, often arguing with his superior. So who would you rather pick: a loyal SS tanker or a rebel thag gets himself into trouble. And don't forget, Wittmann himself trained a fresh batch of men in a HQ in Russia, so he does have the experience.
+Michael Wittmann And Wittman had been awarded the most medals during WW2
i feel like the reason people like the tiger is because of its historic record
totally true!
plus the name
plus the looks
Maxwell true. The tiger looks like a threatening box. While the sherman.....looks like a sherman....
christina douglas And mous, russian T-34-85
Of course i rushed for the Tiger. I was terrible, but driving the big WW2 beast made me so happy
Danox94 sAme boy
its sad that they nerfed the tigers armor so much from real life i mean like did u know that the real tigers had 120 mms of armor instead of the 100mms in the game
Why they nerfed it? Fck them
In ww 2 the tiger often engaged enemies at long distances who's optics and guns were not on par with the tiger's for accuracy and other factors. This made the tigers armor significantly more effective indeed.
1241 comments in 24 hours - I had to open my big mouth!
129 on your last video in 3 days, 24 hours on a video where you say you will answer as many of the comments as possible.....1241 comments :D:D:D:D:D
Yeah, but it is daily double.
yep nice did you get my request about the tiger 2 quick tank review i would really like to see one
I wanted to rush The Tiger asap because I thought it was the best tank in the game. From the historical documentaries I saw it just seemed so cool, I mean its so damn tall of a tank (9 ft 10 in) so I had to get it. But at the time I was horrible so I couldn't pass the their 4 scout tank.. God I hated it. After watching your videos and tactics I like passive scouting now.
Sean Artiles Also wanted to mention the Tiger 1 does seem like a good training wheel for playing heavies in general because you have to remember it has really crappy armor and it isn't angled well.. its quite flat. Could they nerf the dpm? Yea they could, But Then I think they would need to buff another attribute about the tank. It's what makes it a beast atm, Anything else is pretty much mediocre or crap. Arty can pen it easy, and racking it is quite easy too... So it's not like its an unstoppable beast.
Hi QuickyBaby,
Yes, the Tiger was the first tank I wanted to have so badly. Because it had this WW II aura about it of invincibility, mainly because of the famous German tank ace Michael Wittman. And because I know my WW II history. When the Tiger arrived at the battlefield, it had the thickest armour (although not sloped) and the allies had nothing to stop it, really. The gun was well known for its high precision, high penetration at long ranges.
All of which I don't see back in the game, actually. I encounter a lot of T29's and IS3's (tanks that entered the war nearly at the end of it), and against them the Tiger is as good as hopeless if these tanks are in competent hands. They have very little weak spots, OP guns that wreck the Tiger in no time. When in reality, only the British Firefly and air superiority (strafing Typhoons, Tempests and so on) were matchwinners for the allies.
The Tiger gets especially disappointing in brawling against those over armoured, over powered tanks, that historically should not even be in the same tier, if you ask me.
However, because it's such a hard tank to master, I keep on playing it. Hoping it will bring rewards when playing other tier 7 and higher tier tanks.
Keep up the good work!
Kind regards,
Peter Paul, the Netherlands
id like WG to give the tiger its historically accurate armour profile
boer harms irl it had 100mm. It has 100mm in wot. It's just that the tanks it fought in wwii are at like tier 3-4 in wot
@@julianc9795 nah tigers later on did fight IS tanks and easy 8 as well as e2 Shermans designed specifically to kill tiger
@@kellywu1194 yes, but the production of the tiger 2 had already started by then.
@@julianc9795 the tiger 2, tiger 1, panther, pziv h, leopard(5), jagdtiger, Ferdinand, jpanther, jagdpanzer, stug, easy 8, jumbo, sherman, wolverine, jackson, hellcat, kv-1, kv-1s, t34, t34-85, ISU 152 and lower, is2,Cromwell, churchill(insert various),Achilles, firefly, sherman iii, arl 44, chaffee,perishing all fought in ww2 and are above tier 4
P.S. those are the obviousones, there are a lot that technically fought.
He battles more powerfull tanks in wot
WoT penalized long distance engagements massively from the start. In real life a tiger could destroy a t-34 at 2000 meters, and in WoT it can't even see a t-34 at 400 meters.
the only problem with tiger in this game is that it fights agaist vehicles that did not even fought in WW2.Some of them tanks are even 1950s+
If it was VS M4s , T-34s , T-34-85 , and all these it would be epic
and the game would have long since devolved into matches with 14 Tigers slugging it out on each side, with one of some other type that someone's grinding to get to something else (probably the Tiger)...
I started WOT to play the Tiger & Tiger II. In the 80's I used to build plastic models of tanks and play tanks with a group of mates (WarGames). We had a large table maybe 3m X 3m with green cloth with crumpled up news paper under it for hills and model farm yards etc. Each side would estimate the distance to the enemy eg "131.5cm fire AP". You'd then get a tape measure and measure from the end of the barrel of the model to the tank you were firing at. If you hit you'd look up the armor rating Vs the shell rating and roll a dice to determine damage.
It all happens real-time now :)
The tiger 1 had 120mm ( I think) armor and when it was produced it was very formidable. Very few enemy tanks during WW2 even had a chance of piercing the tiger until the end of the war when Sherman fireflies and the T34-85 were given larger guns than their counterparts. Why is the tiger not against these tanks?
K den
Because they are tier 5's and 6's where the tiger is a tier 7. Putting tanks like that together would be very unbalanced.
I thought tiger frontal was 100mm thick
Yes, the turret is 120mm, the hull is 100. sorry for not specifying.
+Spectro (Spectro) oh yeah its spaced and quite thick isn't it? tiger was a beast to kill IRL for the majority of soldiers but too low numbers
Hi ! QuickyBaby
I have played WOT for 1 year more and I just bought Tiger 1 yesterday.
Such a fun car, thanks for your video~
well see also - i was thinking more about it.... the 12.2cm gun used on the IS-2 was actually extremely inaccurate and had a HORRID reload rate.... the gun itself had to be moved to dead center in order to extract the fired shell and load a new one in the IS-2 so it fired about 1/5th as quickly as the Tiger's 8.8cm L/56 gun. that being said - the Tiger was not the most prolific tank killer of the 2nd World War, that title went to the StuG after the 7.5cm L/24 was replaced by the EXTREMELY DEADLY 7.5cm L/48 (first actually was the Krupp model L/43 but that was replaced by the Rheinmetall L/48 as the latter had greater muzzle velocity and was more ergonomic in general). now, the Tiger itself NEVER used the 8.8cm L/71 which, for some odd reason, you can apparently mount on the Tiger in WoT. that gun was used on the Tiger II or "King Tiger" which boasted fantastic sloped armor much like the Panther and really on the Eastern front could not be penetrated frontally in a head to head tank dual with any Soviet tank including the IS-2 even if it found its mark it would simply bounce off or lodge in the thick armor.
in real life, not in WoT world... the Panther's 7.5cm L/70 was actually superior to the 8.8cm L/56 used by the original Tigers. you may be thinking, wait what, really??? yes - the reason for that is because of the muzzle velocity for the anti tank munitions as the German army used both regular AP as well as HZK ammunition which is very similar to APCR. that is why the Panther, with almost 6,000 having been produced and close to 4,800 seeing a fair to large amount of combat (never coming close to the Panzer IV of course which like the StuG used the 7.5cm L/48 after trying out the L/43 on a few of them first). also, the StuG NEVER was fitted with the 7.5cm L/70 in real life, it just was not... the engineers attempted to fit it, but realized that would require major changes made to the suspension and road wheel placement etc so actually fitted it to an all new assault gun called the Jagpanzer IV-70 similar to the way the Panzer IVs which were fitted with the 7.5cm L/70 were called Panzer IV-70s. the Soviet Union made excellent use of its 76.2mm anti-tank gun (these guns were also used by the Germans but re-bored to fire the PaK-40 7.5cm ammunition) not only as towed guns but on their T-34 (slightly modified of course) and their KV-1 (not modified which is why the two guns look a good bit different from the T-34 to the KV-1). when the T-34-85 was being produced, so many of the crews wanted to keep their old turrets and their 76.2mm because it was proven to be a monster. the only problem the Soviets had with their guns were the ammunition.... in general, especially when being hurriedly produced after the initial German invasion, the AP rounds were very very poorly made and would actually crumble on impact quite often even hitting Pz35(t)s and Pz38(t)s not to mention the much better armored Panzer III finally having mounted the correct gun (the 5.0cm L/60 which Hitler and Guderian wanted mounted all the way back in 1938/39 but the military production leaders decided since they had the 3.7cm used for the infantry AT gun, the Panzer III could make out fine with the same thing and then when pushed fitted a weaker 5.0cm L/42 which enraged Hitler as well as the tank commanders which led to FINALLY the military production leaders to mount the 5.0cm L/60 which did FABULOUS even against the T-34s but not so great against the KVs, at least frontally LOL) which in turn led to many a Soviet tank crew being killed in action because while they put their shell on target, it just crumbled rather than penetrating but the German shells always did their job even through the end of the war.
sorry for the long post AGAIN lol, i just made one a few days ago on this same thread.... i just get a bit annoyed by the way WoTs does things sometimes ;-) but overall it is an EXTREMELY good game and represents these tanks quite well and above all is extraordinarily FUN which is why we play. just don't try to learn too much about armored warfare from WoT lol because there are so many more dynamics involved.
Tiger 1 was my second tank i met in my childhood the first one was the M4 Sherman and after i grinded the M4 Sherman imediatly Cut down the plays on my M4 sherman grind for the Tiger 1 and when the day i got the tiger 1 i dont care anything about stats im just glad i had this tank
I really love this video and I really love the commentary.
When it comes to the tiger's mechanics (high accuracy, high DPM, low armor compared to similar tier), it just seems to balance out and to work within the limitations of what wargaming can do with/to a tank to make it work. If the Tiger had really good armor, it would be able to brawl at close range. It would be an unstoppable monster. As it is, its armor is strong enough to bounce shots from lower-tier tanks while its gun (which could have a higher alpha) has a low alpha but a rate of fire that makes it a sort of heavy support tank, something that is just plain dangerous when it can get flanking shots in on distracted enemies.
In the early part of your video, I think the thing that kept you alive against the first four tanks you destroyed was their timidity. You were faced with tanks that didn't coordinate their attacks to give you more problems than you could handle with an IS that choose to back off when hit instead of trying to rush you in coordination with the other nearby tanks and an artillery piece to try to take you out of the game instead of eating three shots from you.
I've probably already commented on this video but I don't care. This one is really special. I love the terrain use and I love the commentary.
I know this is an older post, but you nailed it as far as my experience. I came into the game totally unknowing but remembering the fearsome TIGER tanks from the old movies and knew that was the tank I wanted. I still have it, but rarely play it.
The first time I played world of tanks I also wanted the tiger 😂
The reason why I play world of tanks and choosing the tiger is because I know that its the strongest tank in world war 2 and it looks very cool
Yes but a real tiger crew if they are really really good can fire almost 10 rounds a minute. Meanwhile in WOT the su-122-44 fires 7.5 RPM but in real life fires only 3-4. So, according to that logic the tiger in game should fire 17 or 18 RPM.
What rpm like speed??? (Speed joke)
Yep
@@weirdunknownperson2916 rounds per minute ( get your joking just making sure lol )
Your commentry is awesome, gameplay is awesome
Your an awesome youtubers ..... One of my fav's
Keep up the good work
I also went straight for this line when I started the game. It was my first tier 7. It was underwhelming at first but with upgrades, crew skills, and better knowledge of how to play it, it was amazing. This is my favorite tank ever, and it only took 3 weeks to get to the Tiger II, which is amazing too.
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the panther
The Comet after jingle did an review of it and i saw how good it was in you hands, also it also lead on to the Centurion, the tank my dad loves.
Is it with Jingles?
Alex Bozzolan no, QSF i think
I thought the pz 4 h was really cool looking I got it and now a couple months later have my maxed E75 and love the whole line from pz 4 h
I watched this video after destroying a tiger with my tier 7 light T71. He was at 100 percent and all of my shots went into his frontal armor. Id just pop out, hit him, back up, camp net reset, and pop out again. The tiger does have pretty bad hull armor. Your videos are awesome and informative. Keep up the good work Quickybaby!
Tiger was my first tier 7 and still in my garage over a year later. Loved that they modeled the rifling in the gun barrel. I had a very bad win rate in it though so swapped to lower tier for a long time after.
I raced to the tiger because I knew it had a shit ton of frontal armor but.......................... no I was wrong because in real life people would fuck off but in this game.... nope, so I thought this game would be a little bit more historically accurate.
Clay Leroy If you want the Tiger to be a strong heavy tank, go into War Thunder. It's realistic, and WoT is arcade.
***** Okay thanks!!!!
It is historically accurate. The Tiger 1 had 100mm of frontal armor. A lot in real life (for the 40's). Not a lot in WoT, due to the large amount of experimental and modern tanks.
100mm of frontal armor even in real life wasn't that much. The SHERMAN's effective armor was 80mm in early versions, and 90mm in later versions. Not including the Jumbos. The KV-1s that were uparmored had 100mm of armor, and their armor is at a slight angle. But if those don't count enough for you, just a matter of months after the Tiger I was put into combat, the IS was pushed into combat, and it has 120mm of slightly angled armor on frontal plate... Hate to say it, but the Tigers armor was garbage. It was just good enough to be shellproof to enemy medium tanks at the ranges it could pen them.
No tank, during the course of WW2, managed to penetrate the Tiger frontally during combat. In one instance, a Tiger took over 200 rounds to its frontal armor before retreating. Most Tigers were knocked out due to engine/transmission failures.
The tiger is a big tank destroyer with good armor and dpm
Went up the Russian and German lines initially. The tiger was not my first heavy as I knew it was a little harder to play. I did't know much about armour/angling but was lucky enough to find a few you tubers like yourself and as was able to figure the tiger out fairly fast. I think this is a great tank to play and certainly is the reason why a lot of people play the game. I think you would be doing a service to newer players if you put up more tiger I vids explaining strategy and how you approach battles in this tank. Keep up the good work and Cheers.
First tank for me to achieve was the Tiger. Old school fascination for WWII German tanks, it had allure and a monstrous charm. Great vid btw.
Why im writing that comment in 2015?? Anyways im really wanted a Hetzer beacuse he has so sexy armor. I heared somewhere too: Hetzer have reaaly strong armor and good gun. It taked my heart and love to play with it (i now like 7-8 tier tanker, but love to play with tier 4 tank) strange?
Tiger I should be tier VI IMO. Armor is not good enough for tier VII.
yea all they have to do is Nerf the health a little and the gun to make it tier 6
Nerd health to 1000, increase reload time for 88 l/56, remove l/71 and boom, balanced
+General Bonks They should bring the Panther to tier 6, remove the shmalturm turret and the L100 gun.
Tiger was my first defender medal, first Radley Walters, first tier 7 and first tank to fully master.
Not played it in a LONG time, but it will always be dear to me.
It was the very first tank I went for, that and the Panther, but I got my Tiger first and I loved it. Not as much as I thought I would but I still loved it, and I just like it more now for nostalgia reasons.
I love all of your video! It make me play this game better and better
The Tiger was very expensive, had real maintenance problems and such but it was the most effective tank in history, And you can't ignore that. You talk about the production lasting only 2 years: What does that mean?. In WW II tank evolution was going at 10 times the rate of present times. 2 years was like 20.
In terms of crew survival It was unequaled as well as its capacity to kill the enemy. This meant saving elite crews for more battles etc.
The most important tank of WW II was the T 34, It modernized all tank designs and may have won WW II but the Tiger was the best tank as a machine for killing others!. It was the T Rex of W II tanks!
T34 set the standard of sloping armor, nothing else. It was simply mass produced, but a very basic and unforgiving tank for the crew. Germany smashed thousands of these machines into the ground.
You are very wrong there. Simple construction yes but a very fast ride, and a gun that punched through all German armor before the Tiger. It also had wide tracks allowing it to go where German tanks could not. Easy to build , easy to fix it was not complex but effective all round but not just the slope of the armor
MegaRaven100 i'm sorry my friend but that is simply not true. i think you are thinking of the early days of the Panther when talking about the maintenance and technical problems, but those were sorted out EXTREMELY quickly. the Tiger won a contest against another great design by Ferdinand Porsche so was fully functional and very very well designed when they first hit the battlefield. naturally, as with almost any new weapon, some things did pop up and had to be dealt with but they were not major problems so to speak.
However, that is not the part of your post I am taking issue with - when you said it was the "most effective tank in history", that is simply untrue, my friend. granted, with its 8.8cm L/56 cannon it was able to knock out Soviet tanks from over 1,000 meters easily head on and its appearance on the battlefield was a real shock to the Soviets, but it was not NEARLY as big a surprise to the Soviets as the KV series and especially the T-34 was to the Germans. the T-34 was the greatest tank of World War II if you take into account ALL aspects on AND off the battlefield. of course on the battlefield, the Tiger or Panther (which actually made a much bigger impact than the Tiger during the course of the war with over 6,000 being produced and the fact that its 7.5cm L/70 main gun was simply fabulous, better even than the Tiger's 8.8cm L/56 because of the terrific muzzle velocity) would generally knock out as many as four to six T-34s for every one of their tanks being even damaged much less knocked out. however, the T-34 was SO much simpler to build and maintain, to drive, to operate in general, and so many were built that they could lose literally ten of them to every Tiger knocked out and still have more to spare!
of course you also must remember that the Soviets didn't just mark knocked out T-34s as a total loss - if there was ANY chance they could be patched up, a new coat of paint splashed in the inside to hide the blood and brain stains from the last crew and able to be thrown back into action, this was done on the field after being towed to the rear mechanics' area. most of the time, German forces had to abandon their knocked out Tigers among other extremely heavy assault guns or TDs simply because of their weight. however, there were MANY cases of a Tiger taking over 100 76.2mm shells and still driving back to the staging area after running out of ammunition on its own power to fight another day. the way the Americans and Soviets treated their tanks just gave Germany no real chance of victory because they simply couldn't because of the pace of the withdrawal perhaps or for many other reasons patch their knocked out tanks up at nearly the rate of the Soviets or Americans.....
also, if we are going to talk about the most effective "tank" of the war - i would have to disagree on that as well stating that it wasn't a tank, but rather an assault gun that was the most effective vehicle (and tank) killer of the war - the StuG with its 7.5cm L/48 gun knocked out more tanks and armored vehicles than any other single type of tank or armored vehicle of the second world war.
I've stated my case and so now have you, and you unlike so many I argue with you have at least a well formulated case and have taken the time to think it through. SO respect but i stick to my case about the T 34 being the most important tank of WII or anytime and the Tiger the most effective.
It's 10 to 1 kill ration (5 to 1 for Panther) and the high survivablity for it's elite crew mean't its fighting effect and psychological effect were unequalled.
Respect to you anyway. And yes Stg III was an excellent and cheap TD/SG
MegaRaven100
well said, sir. =)
I went straight for the m4 Sherman. I know it's not the best tank I just really enjoy the look of it and it looked like it was a decent tank.
this was the first tank i went for when the beta version about 4 years ago... and i still have it and love it
I really like the videos, they really help me actually shape up on my tanking though I miss the tiger it was my best sniping tank I actually used
Tiger was my first tier VII on the xbox and now I almost have the E75 after grinding upto theT95, Centurion 7/1, Conqueror, and IS-3. I can't wait to get the E75 and E100. after playing the T29, Black Prince, Tiger, and IS I still love to take my Tiger for a stroll through enemy teams.
I am also currently waiting for the Maus line to come out so that I can get my Tiger P and Maus and I currently am training my Ltraktor crew with 7 skills and perks just for my Maus.
Being a self-proclaimed WWII buff I kind of knew that the armor on the tiger wasn't good it just out classed a lot of the allied tanks and the German crews were way better trained. I find that it isn't necessarily the tank but the crew operating it.
Actually the Devastator medal is now the wittmanns/Bolters medal and I believe that Michael Wittmann deserves to have that medal named after him he was a great Tank commander and Tactician. The only reason he had his name removed from the medal is because he fought for his country and committed none of the atrocities that his superiors committed and yet because this game is made by Russians/eastern Europeans that hate Germany they have the right to say what is politically correct!!!! Otto Carius has a medal ingame named after him and he was an even better commander than Michael Wittmann.
I totally agree with your last statement about Michael wittmenn.
ArkhonXIX
well, several problems with that.
One, to get any meaningful employment in 1930s/40s Germany you had to be a party member (just as you had to be a party member in the USSR for that).
Two, only party members could get into the Waffen SS, which was a preferable posting to the regular army because you'd get better pay, better training, better equipment, and often easier postings (at least early in the war).
As to atrocities, if they go and remove any name that's associated with those they should remove the IS line of tanks, named after Stalin who's responsible for more human suffering than the Nazi regime in Germany ever was.
You asked for me
michael Wittman
Really......
yes
Yes, Tiger indeed was my first tank.. and at the time I got it it was horribly underwhelming....
Yes, I went up this line first and only so far. I love the Tiger due to its history as well as the Pz III and Pz IV. I especially loved what the Pz IIIj and Pz IVf2 did in the African desert under Rommel. I've played Tobruk (Avalon Hill) with counters and even made a miniatures battle field using preformed hexes. Started in High School playing Panzer Blitz/Leader and back in the day studied my father's WWII book Tank encylopedia. I agree with your assessment on what WOT did with the Tiger. By the way My uncle not only flew but trained pilots on the ME-262 jet. How cool is that!
I've only been playing for 9 days and am very much a noob. I went for the tiger because it's always been a favorite of mine from history. thanks for setting me straight on tiger gameplay because I've been using mine all wrong...lol. will stop charging into the fray like I've been doing and spend more time looking for flanks and distance sniping, until the field thins a bit. great vid
I think the problem of the Tiger I is its tier. It should have been tier V or VI. The armor is garbage at tier VII, and that's why it needs something special to make up for it. The other tier VII heavies came way later than the Tiger I, so they're basically of a more modern and effective design. The Tiger I wouldn't have been the scary icon that it is, if it had been fighting at the timer of IS, T29 etc. but luckily.. It didn't.
I guess WG didn't want the Tiger I to dominate its tier for whatever reason, so they made it face tanks that it never did IRL. The Tiger was a beast. Everything didn't just penetrate it like it does in WoT.
I partly agree with you on the skill cap thing. Obviously every noob out there isn't going to have a game like yours, so there's clearly still room for skill when playing the Tiger, but without any armor to work with, there's a real limit on what you can do with your skill. So often my Tiger just gets rushed. Then you're pretty f'ed. You can out-DPM some tanks, but you will get hurt badly doing so no matter how much you try to angle or whatever... And if there's more than one, you're basically dead.
That's not just a Tiger I thing though. It seems to be the way they make a lot of things in WoT these days. A lot of skill equalizing features keep getting added, and it's one of my biggest issues with the game. I want the best player to win.. Even if it's not me. A ridiculous 0 dmg hit followed up by an "impossible" bounce should not decide the outcome and let me beat a better player who really outplayed me.
And let's not even get started on the one-shotting machines or autoloaders. You can be the best player in the world, but if you run into a T57, 50B or whatever, it makes 0 difference. You simply can't reload fast enough for it to be about skill unless the enemy is a complete tard and shoots at auto-bounce zones or something. It ends up being game mechanics deciding a lot of outcomes in WoT, which frustrates the hell outta me. And yes, also when it's in my favor.
they have to make it so what tank you drive in a tier doesn't make a difference as long as you have the skill to drive it well.
And they try.
They don't always succeed, but they do try.
And the "Soviet bias" idea in part stems from that. Soviet tanks have lots of armour, making them in a way more forgiving of less than perfect angling and positioning.
But they suffer in accuracy, which for a less experienced player isn't that great a loss as they're not that accurate anyway (who cares if your shot goes wide by 20 meters or 22 when fired from 50 meters, eh?).
The team that has better overall performance will still win. Which of course is a big problem as most people play the game without any thought of working together with others on their team. They either rush off on their own, then complain that the team are idiots when they themselves get killed in the middle of nowhere, or they go in single file following whomever xvm tells them is the best player on the team and then get themselves shot up one by one by one wondering what the hell that experienced player did wrong...
OK so a lot of questions and I feel compelled to answer:
1. Do I think the Tiger I needed a DPM buff and do I think its right that war gaming seem to have buffed it because it's so popular?
I think it probably did need a buff considering you can easily pen a tiger in the frontal hull with all of the tier 5 heavies if you aim for the right spots even when its angled and you can pen the turret in the cupola. I know because I have on more than one occasion. Do I think it needed it's DPM buffed that dramatically to compensate for the poor armour? Honestly no, the near 9r/m is a little ridiculous, somewhere between 7.5 and 8 would have been more on the money IMO, 8.5 at a push, but 9 is just too much. I also feel that there are other tanks in the game who need a buff or 're-balance' far more than the Tiger did at a variety of tiers but War Gaming ignore them because they just presume nobody cares if say the VK 28.01 is near unplayable.
I however don't feel it was unfair or too much of a buff since I don't feel the Tiger, as you said yourself, is actually OP with this huge amount of DPM and decent chunk of HP. I think it's an incredibly strong tank when played a certain way and on certain maps but I also don't feel it's a tank that is particularly intuitive or easy to play at the same time and a tank that you cannot carry a dog crap quality team in, maybe a poor team or an average team, but a complete donkey team who live up to their average ability at best, nah, the Tiger will be overwhelmed and will be destroyed and it wont matter how much you angle that armour when shots are coming at you from multiple directions, even if all aimed at your front. 1 vs 1 I think you can find ways to make the Tiger's armour work but that's really the limit, its a tank you need to be able to dictate what shoots you when and why while driving and as soon as that luxury is gone it can quickly fall to peaces and suddenly you're just driving a box of XP. I would like to add a disclaimer here: I do actually own the Tiger however I have never yet played it (waiting for free XP to not play completely stock) so all of my views are from watching other people play the tank (including but not exclusively yourself) and coming up against the tank.
2. Did I grind out for the Tiger or even want the Tiger?
I wanted it because I love driving heavies, or at least once I got to tier 5 and played the KV1, T1 Heavy, Churchill I and BDR, I decided heavies were my thing since I loved all of them and did fairly consistently well in all (by my standards at the time). Obviously when it comes to heavy tanks the Tiger is probably the most iconic in history, you could even say that when it comes to tanks in general. However being a newer WOT player (around 7k games, tier 7 high player) I knew a little about the game before I jumped in (watched a bit of Jingles) and my sights were set on other prizes, that being said my knowledge was it turned out shaky at best. My goals initially were, the Matilda, The Churchill I and the Object 704. I also specifically remember hearing Jingles say that the Tiger wasn't great and felt like it was one tier too high before I started playing, so while I wanted it I wasn't in any rush.
Why the Matilda? I heard Jingles say it was ridiculous and it was on the way to the Churchill I so it was a win win as far as I was concerned. The Matilda was incredible and I loved it however it was a big mistake, you should grind to the Churchill I through the Valentine to unlock a lot of the guns including very importantly the 6-pdr... also a very good tier 4 tank that I do not think you gave enough credit while grinding for the Bishop in if i'm honest. Why the Churchill I? I remembered seeing a Jingles review on a Churchill tank where he said it was one of the, if not the funnest tank in the game and in his opinion the best tier 5 heavy. Turned out he was talking about the Churchill III (it was an old video). Why the Object 704, I remembered watching Jingles' TD replay competition and there were a few Object replays in there, I just loved the look of the thing and the huge boom and subsequent massive chunk of destruction it seemed to be inflicting on everything it came face to face with. Definitely a fairly random collection of wants and I still don't have an Object (up to the SU-100, enjoying it) but that's what a little knowledge will get you.
3. Do I think new comers to the game now go for the Tiger as much as new players used to back in the day?
Well I know I didn't, I know nobody I know who started playing at the same time as me or after me have, so based on that I'd have to say no, people do not hanker after the Tiger when they first start playing as much as they used to. The tanks that I consistently hear people say they want when they start playing and have a little knowledge now are the KV1 and the KV1S.
I believe it's because firstly a lot of people think and indeed say that Russian tanks in the game are OP so I think it's a perception that many people come to the game harboring. I know when I started playing I found out a couple of friends also played it and they all told me Russia OP, get a KV1 and get a KV1S. I never played the old Russian heavy line or played the game while it still existed, from what I've heard it does indeed sound pretty bloody silly so I can understand why that perception exists but I feel Russian tanks are on the whole fairly balanced now and can't think of anything other than the KV1S that stands out as being at all OP as far as their heavies go, or indeed their tank lines in general. Other than the KV1S I can only think of some strong but not OP tanks and a fair few turds, especially at low tiers.
Anyway, sorry for the ramble and I don't expect a reply to all of that but if by any chance you get this far then thanks for all the content, it's very much enjoyed and appreciated.
why you write so much???
Beneteus der Gewaltige He asked some interesting questions that I had a bit to say about. On the plus side I don't expect anybody to actually read it... turned out I had a bit more to say than was probably desired :P.
Beneteus der Gewaltige
Because there's people that like to read so much.
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QB, when i started the game I saw some random videos and the KV-1S stood out and thought without any skills I could drive a fast heavy with a big gun and do well! Now 4 months later I have got my IS7 and IS4 and have to say I love the tanks in these lines but I still suck lol. Running the tiger line now and I am so excited heading towards the next 3 tanks T2, E75 & E100! Anyway thanks for sharing your knowledge it has helped me tremendously! I watch your videos often and jingles as well. Take care my friend
This was my goal tank when I played closed beta as well - its THE WW2 tank in my opinion. +x years later, I don't play it as much anymore but it is a blast to play.
Hi there, the Tiger I is my first tier VII tank, I chose this tech tree because my friends told me that was the way to go, and I kinda regret it, because this is definetly not an easy tank to play with, to play effectively at least. I have 200 games on it atm and I'm still not performing that well even though I have 55% win rate on it, and average 770 damage dealt. Could you make a review of this tank, with tips and tricks to perform well please ? Thank you very much :)
WTF who are your Opponents?:) You can't sidescrape in a Tiger because it's so big that you can't get your turret around a Corner without exposing your weak hull-armor first which is an easy pen for almost every tank above Tier 4:)
I too ran pretty hard to get to the Tiger. Suffice it to say, I got there and was massively, massively disappointed in it. Because of the way the game mechanics work, the monster tank of World War II that could disrupt infantry regiments with the mere rumor of its presence, that could bullseye Shermans at nearly a mile, that had a gun which literally could blow a hole through the front of a Sherman and have the shell come out the back, was a pussycat. The limit in gun and visual ranges means that Shermans can close in and laugh as they run around me using a 105mm howitzer that was used only for special applications. T-34s can punch through the FRONT armor and the Tiger is the plaything of quite a few other WW2 tanks, including ones like the ARL-44 which comes out of a nation that never really participated in WW2 on account of being ground under the wheels of the German blitzkrieg. Being denied the chance to play the Panzerkampfwagen VI "Tiger" as it existed in the second world war was a blow that took me a very long time to recover from; as it is, the Tiger isn't going to be one of my long-term "keeps" because it has nothing to recommend it over alternatives like a T-29 (experimental design that never saw a battlefield). I'm mildly despondent over this (as you might be able to tell, because the tank is probably one of the most famous in world history) although WoT is fun enough that I've forgiven WarGaming.net.
Welcome to the 'reality' of gaming, Kay... WG was *_never_* going to present the Tiger I as the historical powerhouse that it was. Granted, by later in the war, it was being slowly over-shadowed by improved counterparts (the T34-85, the Firefly, the Easy 8, etc...), but on the whole, the Tiger was *death machine* when facing off against the 'rank-and-file' Allied tanks.
And _that_ is why WG's Tiger is a shadow of the original... how much fun would a match be if _seeing_ a Tiger was one step away from your Sherman, or T-34 going 'BOOM"? And don't forget who's created/running WoT*... _and_ acknowledge their biggest customers are (by country)... HINT: *Belarus/Russia.
Layered on top of all that are the 'intangibles' that are solely supplied by the human gamer running that tank: tactical savvy, experience, and 'battle intuition'.
It is what it is, Kay... just be happy the WG doesn't have the mystical hand of Stalin swatting aside German cannon rounds fired against Russian tanks as an additional buff.
ironwolfF1 Well, like I said, I forgave them because I'm starting to understand why it happened. See, what Wargaming chose to do (as opposed to what a game like War Thunder does) is consolidate all possibly models of a particular tank into a single tank at a given tier to let a player use the most advanced possible version of a given tank. The Sherman with the 76mm M2A1 cannon. The Tiger with a new engine and the 8.8cm L/71. The IS-1 carrying the 122mm cannon that it JUST started being armed with at the end of the war. The Panzer IV Ausf J carrying a 7.5cm L/48 and that odd-looking turret with projection shields to stop HEAT rockets from American bazookas. Hell, the Churchill I tank never really got a 75mm gun; that was the Churchill VII. So as time has gone on, I've come to realize that the weakness of the Tiger isn't Wargaming screwing players but Wargaming scaling the Tiger so that it performs realistically against the most advanced version of all the tier 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9 tanks that it'll see. Granted, the tiering system itself is utterly absurd historically but again, it's hard to imagine players tolerating a realistic situation where they'd be trundling around in a Covenentor, Churchill I (carrying nothing better than a 6lb gun), A-20, or another of the tanks that were rolling around at the time that the Tiger first deployed, and having their entire team get trolled by a couple of Tigers picking them off from the other side of the planet. The goal is to give players a fun time no matter what they're driving and nothing makes players more murderous than someone pwn'ing them, even when the pwn is completely, utterly, fairly, legitimate. Entire teams being pwn'ed by a couple tanks (entirely possible if the game was being 100% true-to-history) would evaporate the server population faster than you could say "LOLnope".
So i take you're very excited for historical battles in 9.0?
Colin Kennedy I would be.. except posts from the Wargaming.net team make it clear that they're going to work like random maps with a tank imbalance and equipment/ammo limitations.
***** So just like most WWII tank encounters then? Limited ammo, no bonus equipment, not always fully trained crews and often 1 side out-numbering and/or ambushing the other.
I knew a lot about world war 2 armor and the tiger, respectively, was a fantastic weapon on the battlefield. I immediately went for it because it's my favorite tank.
I wanted all. Pz 4, Stug III, Panther, Tiger and Tiger II.
It's because of how famous they are in reality, with Michael Wittmann's tiger tank, but now there are so many more tanks that are cooler and better for people
you dont want the panther its an abombination of what the real thing was
YubChub Hub yeah. I have learned that hard way 3 years ago
Wehraboos... Wehraboos everywhere.
YubChub Hub Oh, yes? And what was the "real thing" like, then?
TIGER FOREVER!!!... also yeah I know the tiger I had problems. in reality it was the Tiger II that recommends more recognition. It was far more effective then the Tiger I but sadly... only like 100 or so were made I can't remember
Germans had the best tanks ever!!!!
If the Germans had ten thousand Tigers they could have beaten the Reds anytime!
Karl Ritzenthaler No just no.... Is/Js-3 230mm of frontal armor and same speed as a tiger.
I love History! You got a point. King Tigers? With Panther support?
Karl Ritzenthaler They where mass-produced....and supported by is/js-2s and T-34-85s.
Karl Ritzenthaler IF.
i definitely went tiger 1 first. didnt even bothered to play other nations until i get it. and i played it for more than 6 months before i finally bought tiger 2. this tank, together with the panther and nashorn are my target before i started to play wot. and thanks to u, QB, i'm slowly improving my gameplay. cheers.
Your videos are awesome and I love the tiger 1.
Nah, I saw that there is the Maus in World of Tanks and then I decided to go for it.
Same here
Same but then I heard that the E100 was better and I really wanted the tiger so I changed my mind
same. im a huge maus fan
EDDSWORLDMEGAFAN
Everyone loves the Maus.
+_Ofenkartoffel_ Too bad it is powercreeped to death
The Tiger tank has much better armour in War Thunder
Imo, it's because in wot, the tiger's tier is higher than it should be. Tbh, in ww2, all it had to deal wiv is a bunch of shermans and T34-85s, and never ever met something like the T29 which is in the same tier in this game. Correct me if I'm wrong, but fuck WG, the tiger belong to tier 6.
+Lonewolf belongs*
i wish they let us play historical battles like t-34s vs tigers that would be cool
one team t-34s the other just just tigers and maybe balance it by having more t34s than tigers lol
+robospirit we did have, but they removed that game mode due to the fact that only a small number of players wanted to play in a weaker team, and hoping for teamwork in a public game is chasing wild gooses anyway.
Whats up man? Obviously this video was put up in the spring but I just started playing WOT on 360 in October and I've got the tiger 2 now. Thanks for all the videos because I pretty much watch one or two every day and do the same thing on jingles' channel. I am a big WW2 nerd and so when I started the game I was already trying to get the T-34 (Russian), Sherman and the Tiger so I did a similar thing to you and because I love studying WW2, for fun pretty much, is the reason that the game is so appealing to me. We've got pretty much the same things you guys do except chinese and japanese tanks as well as some maps not yet put in.
I hadn't watched any media for world of tanks and the only knowledge I had was from a friend who played it fairly often. But I still ran straight for the target because I absolutely love armor from World War 2 specifically. The Tiger and Tiger 2 are my favorite tanks in the game hands down.
Pzkpf VI Tiger 1 and Pzkpf V Panther,both here and in warthunder...:)
And you can go up against Sherman's and T-34's with both the Tiger and Panther ;)...
James Steale well,in wargaming's counter-strike on tacks you're quite right,but in warthunder it is slightly better deal.But again two similar but different concepts of armored warfare...
I had no idea what tanks where, untill......my mom bought the Fury movie. Then i was like " damn tanks are sick "
Then i saw WoT i still had no idea what the names of the tanks where, so i heard Russian guns where OP so went for the KV-4
changed to IS-8, and now E-100, But one advice, if you are playing as Tiger you should stand back and snipe, whats the use of the accuracy, Russians do that.
+Nawaz Saheb ''Fury'' is a American Hollywood movie, where Shermans can destroy Tiger who was alone, in ww2 Tiger was never going alone to engage enemy, and in real life Tiger would destroy them. In Fury if Brad Pitt drives a tank, that tank is invincible :) .
ok...
i like my tiger 1 as a sniper
Oh my God. You didn't know what tanks were?
yh lol
I went straight for the tiger and you taught me how to play it well
But the question is does Tiger 1 get fair matchmaking? Like he's not getting matched against teams full of tier 8 and 9?
+Thoregor u cannot get match with 2 tier up, only 1 max. unless u play artillery
sirundying Then why I get tier 7 matches when I'm playing luchs with my friend?
+Thoregor yeah my bad i didnt play in 3 years and i played war thunder during that time. i did fave tier 9 with my tiger 1 lol but somehow i managed to do "good" dmg and sometimes survive.
+sirundying so to answer your original question, if u win 2 games in a row in it theres more chance u get "uptiered" and i think the more upgrade your tank has the more chance u get too ( totaly not sure ). but in my fullyupgraded tiger 1 i get uptiered once in a while, it is really not that bad. i think it had to do more with win streak than anything
sirundying I hope it's as you say, also it kinda is normal to do damage to tier 9 because at tier 7+ tanks have good guns with good penetration (not like at tier 5-)
I think Tiger I is really bad. A T29 can take out a Tiger I without any damage
You clearly dont know much about world of tanks
I know enought about World of Tanks to know that. I allready have the M103
Well both are great tanks
Theyr both great, but T29 is better
Well I prefer the Tiger
Totally got into WoT just to get a Tiger I and Panther. Now im hooked.
My first big tank was the Churchill VII as I had built a model of one as a kid. Of course, I had a model Tiger as well.
i guess i still don't understand the Tier system.... i also don't understand why they include tanks that either were never put into mass production or never even considered for a leading role on the battlefield... for example, in a single match there can be more T-95s AND Maus tanks than were even built in history. why not have more Tiers? why not have realistic reload times for a very good crew..... there is hardly a crew on the planet that would take over 20 seconds to reload an 8.8cm or 7.5cm or for that matter a 10cm shell.... i mean, i think a group of boy scouts could do better than that.... i will have to get used to the Tiers and the decisions made in this game to really understand it more clearly.
However, Quicky, m8, if you are learning about armoured warfare from this game.... please don't do that. this is a fun arcadey kind of game but it is so far from realistic much less an armoured warfare simulator it isn't even funny.... the fact that most of the engagements seem to be made inside of 300 meters or so is just ridiculous.... most of these engagements would be made out past 1,400 meters or even 2k meters even in WWII (from tanks like the Panther, Tiger TDs like the Hetzer or StuG etc) and the few tank engagements which took place from close range (such as in Normandy or really on the Western Front in 1944-45 in general, or in battles like Kursk in which you had tanks literally on top of one another or in city fighting like for Stalingrad or Koenigsberg) most of the tanks or SP guns or TDs could destroy the others in one shot without any problem at all by blowing the ammunition sky high or hitting the fuel storage etc.... it is made as a kind of FPS (or 3rdPS) for tanks where you know, you start at a certain amount of health so can be shot several times even with rifle rounds in the sense of an FPS like Counterstrike or Battlefield....
A lot of that can be explained by just saying "Game balance" and it holds true most of the time. Immagine how pissed everybody would be if a KV-2 at top tier could fire once every 10 seconds, or if a Tiger fought nothing but Shermans and T-34s. If you want realism, you have War Thunder. If you want balance, you have World of Tanks... most of the time. *cough* FV215b 183 *cough*
xXInfXx sherman wrecks a tiger in WOT
dingthefries Haven't seen it happen yet. Keep dreaming, sunshine.
dont have to dream i do it all the time in my sherman
dingthefries Let me just put this into peerspective for you. A Sherman has 460 HP, a Tiger has 1500. A sherman fires a shot off every 3-8 seconds, deppending on the gun. A tiger fires off an 88mm shell off every 6 seconds. One Tiger shell does an avrage of 235 damage, which is over half a Sherman's HP. A sherman can't even deal damage to a Tiger from the front unless he's using the 105mm. And even then most of the damage is absorbed by the armor causing arround 60 avrage damage with every shell.
the tiger is not at the right tier it was at its time a very very good tank
wargaming does not respect this tank at all :(
at least gaijin respects the tank and makes it a good tank
You are correct. The Tiger was a dreaded tank, and I think it would be awesome if they made it Tier 6. In Tier 7 it isn't the awesome force it was in WWII.
tier 5 would be correct becouse it fought aginst the Shermans
Yes, I agree.
thx glad some one thinks like me
"very very good tank"???
So good that it production was stopped after 2 years? So very very good, that the first time he was put in to service it immediately gut in to problems? Why did it not achieved victory in Kursk? There were already weapons witch could deal with Tiger tanks. Like QF 6-pounder and ZiS-2 57 mm anti tank gun. To say that Sherman an T-34 could not deal with the Tiger is a non argument. Because those tanks were not build as Tank fighting force. And the big kill-to death ratio was more because of high trained and skilled crew. If you would out Tiger in Tier VI that put KV-1 and Pz-IV in Tier IV.
Wonderful battle there! Actually the M4 Sherman was the first tank I went for, with the Tiger being the second. I'm a bit of a WWII history nerd so yeah I knew about the armor and guns of the more famous tanks (Tiger, Sherman, USSR's T34)
i sort of went for the tiger but was primarily focused on the maus. This made it easy to jump over to the other heavy line however
nice ram of your team mate at the end just to make sure he'll miss. totally unnecessary as he did miss earlier, but still a bastard thing to do
3majsie maciek what? clearly the tigerP rammed him, and he would have missed anyway if you look at the trajectories, stop looking for the most ridiculous things to complain about
Gordon Kinnaird blind? so you're saying quicky was tunnel viosioning and couldn't see that he's gonna block P ?
no, im saying that your comment was pointless, as the tigerP would have missed his shot even if he had not rammed himself into quicky
Gordon Kinnaird So you're repeating after me? I wrote that in the first post. My question remains. Why quicky didn't stop? Just in case.
"Securing a kill" is his common practice but discussing this with obvious fan doesn't make sense so...
He didn't stop because then he would have a shot which would end the game, it was his kill, he pushed the enemy and did the a large portion of his health, it actually looked like the tigerP was trying to get in front of quicky to block his shot, this aside, i'm not actually a 'fan' of quicky, i do however see him as a very good source of WoT content and enjoy some of his videos, also i'm not just defending him out of some feigned sense of loyalty, i am just putting together what i saw and your comment looked like a random jab at what was a very nice play.
This game is horseshit. A Tiger would blow the top of any enemy tank at that range....
you need to realize it destroyed m4 Shermans and t34 or kv1 and char b1 vehicles. In WoT the vk45.01 (tiger 1) combats the is, comet, and other tanks meant to fight the tiger.
This game is meant to be "balanced" and at war there was no balance like t34 or m4 vs tiger ?
Bit of a necro reply but as you probably already know, wot is an arcade game, it's just for fun. If you want a more realistic experience play war thunder. Or join the Army. Actually scratch that last one, when I was in Iraq all our challengers just set rusting in a fucking tank park because they 'looked too scary to civilians'
the tiger would be pretty evenly matched with an IS-2 at that range (IS and IS-2 are practically the same tank in real life. what makes an IS-2 an IS-2 is the 122mm gun. thats it. the IS-2 gets the late version of the chassis in the chinese tech tree.
the 122mm D-25T gun was used to shoot HE rounds more than anything. and the penetration could barely get through a tiger. much less a panther. the tiger had a 88mm kwk 43 L56 gun in real life. wich would be used more for annihilating a red army brigade from 2 kilometers away (far outside the reliable use of their shitty guns)
tiger is hurt by the limited view range and weird settings they put tanks in (I.E himmseldorf would be a major no no for an armored breakthrough. tall buildings are great for ambushes, and the close ranges and general tightness of the environment would be certain death for a tank.
rhyso oberding Tiger commanders operated their tanks with the commanders hatch open when no enemy infantry were nearby or when it wasn't engaged by effective fire, something WoT never takes into account with any standoff tank that isn't even moving (bonus only applied with a telescopic sight, meh). It had fantastic view range :) much better than most Russian tanks due to how tall it was and the tanks were better equipped, meaning all tank commanders had binos, something not entirely standard in Russia. The sad truth is, it is a tier 5 tank that was jerry rigged to work at tier 7 meaning its armour is absolutely worthless and it has to be given a super version of its gun to even penetrate tier 7 tanks. Kinda funny the short 88 is actually outperformed by the tier 5 heavy gun in almost every respect, yeah some legend that 88 is in this game, worst gun ever.
You'll have to add me to the list of people who went straight for the Tiger when starting out in WOT. Didn't know anything about the game, my son had started playing it and got me interested. I even remember telling him to go for it as it was the best tank in WW2! Nice video.
I went in to the game and yes i went to the german tec tree 1st after watching a few vids on quickybabys channel and thought i give it a go lol and been hooked ever since but the only thing is how much difference there is in game to haveing worked on some of them tanks in real life and going in game and playing them is a interesting experience indeed but a good one :)
yes QuickyBaby - like you I started because I wanted the Tiger (and King Tiger). I studied the history of WW2 at school and so I knew all about these two tanks and how scared allied tankers were of the Tigers. I was disappointed in the Tiger 1 when I first got it as it wasn't as tough and no body seemed to be scare of me! I got killed a lot. I ended playing it like a Tank Destroyer and sniped and found more success but had to endure the scathing remarks of my team mates...heavy tanks should push apparently. Now I've seen this video, I will try more hull down tactics - thanks for this - it helps a lot!
The Tiger 1 was the first tank I wanted, when I got it I was so relieved that all the hard work was over. I've been playing since 2014
Tiger was my first tank I wanted :) Loved that 8.8cm beast ever since playing Medal of Honour vanguard and seeing it for the first time when I was little :D
Thanks for the video, you rock.
I joined the game for the Maus, and I knew a very little about WWII tanks.
The Tiger I is an excellent tank, it can still bounce shots (with luck), and has awesome DPM! Really, the armour doesn't matter much on it, as any tank can get mauled. Thanks again for the video, keep tankin!
I definitely was one of those people who went straight for the Tiger when I started playing WoT on the Xbox one about 7 months ago. Was never quite as armoured as I had expected but it was worth it for the E-75.
I've had some amazing games in the Tiger I though
Love u QB.
I played Wot 6years ago. And just like you. First tank is go to tiger. And then give up. Now I am back. Thanks for all the video. Now I am in my E75 now. But still keep the tiger.
I started on Blitz until I read an article about WOT and US Tank crews playing it. I with tanks I built as models and had no idea of armor either. so I raced to the Sherman, Persian and Tiger. It wasn't until after your videos and trying different countries and types until I figured out my play style but I did have fun
been playing over a year and just now getting to the tiger. i went for the Japanese tanks first wanted the stb1 but got the type 5 as my first tier 10 tank
I play on the X-box. The first tank class I played was artillery ( I only have one fully functioning hand ) so from a physical standpoint that's the easiest type of tank for me to play, I love the M53/55 have 2 stars on it. The first actual tank I wanted was the Panther and while it took forever to learn to play with one hand I now play the E-50M and have 1 mark on that.
When I got the tiger tank to me it is a T7 model of the D.W.2. tank. They both have descent armor to help it survive longer, good guns, 50mm to the 8.8cm, and the speed of the tanks. They are good mid to long range support and both are pretty crap up close in urban arenas.
But when I started WoT my first tank goal was the T-34 russian medium, a work horse of a tank and can be considered a beast of a tank on it's own tier.
Yep. Started playing WoT with race to Tiger and Tiger II in mind..
I started out like you mentioned in the video. Yes i picked the Tiger line, currently at Tiger 1, soon at Tiger II. I started judging my decision at first when i first unlocked the Tiger, but now once i have it fully upgraded it´s actually really fun. The reason why i picked the Tiger class is becouse they look fearsome and are sexy as hell!!!!
Yes, when I first started playing my goal was a Tiger 1. Many years later I have over 6000 battles in it and still love it. Know your limitations when playing and you can carry and even help out in high tier games. My new love is the Emil (Swed) and Skorpian (German). Plus being German, how can I not grind for the Tiger 1 way back when.
Hi there QuickyBaby,
Before I got into WoT I was very much into WWII German tanks, and had done a lot of research on them from specifications to prototype testing to reading the journals of those who drove them. So I did not just know the legendary reputation of the Tiger but I knew full well that it was entirely backed up.
So, when a friend told me "Hey, there's this game with tanks and you've got both the Tiger I and II in it!" I just jumped on it.
But then I finally reached the Tiger, my first Tier 7. And I was horribly disappointed (to be fair, it was stock) but even when I got it upgraded I was left with a sad feeling. To be fair this was long, long before the rebalances you mention in this video and I have since in the 3 years become a better player, but above all I realise that of course it can't be historically accurate to the actual Tiger I. For, to anyone obvious reasons.
Since then I have gotten over it but it wass a very depressing feeling to reach one of the tanks you've literally dreamed about only for it to get shredded by anything looking in it's general direction.
Now I see where I was going wrong with the tiger. Thank you for this video, it really helped
The tank I really wanted was the Ferdinand and once I got it I was really happy and i still love it to this day
Yeah I wanted a Tiger right off from the start. I knew some stuff but I've researched a LOT now as I play. For me if I understand how a tank was used/designed for I drive it better.
Thanks for the video!
The Tiger I was my first choice of tank to achieve, grind & unlocking and after unlocking the Tiger II, it's still one of my Top best Tanks
First tank I went for was the PZ IV, since it's my all time favourite tank, after than I branched out into others.
When i decided to start playing i went for german tanks firstly... Then I decided on Heavy tanks... after that i was left with the option of the Maus and the E-100.After seeing some of your video's on the E-100 so my grind started.Iam on the Tiger I now and was very excited to get there ,so yea... I raced for the Tiger
the first tank i´ve ever wanted was the t-34 sowjet medium tank (because back to that time i´ve played a famous WW2 shooter where you could drive one too). The first heavy tier 7 tank was the IS, but today i prefer the Tiger 1 or the T29 because they aren´t useles when it comes to tier 8 or 9.
The first tanks that were my goals to get were the Maus and Hellcat. I got the Hellcat and love it.
The first line I finished is the T29 towards T110E5. I got Tiger 1 after I already had 6 tier 10 in the garage, including a IS7. My preferred T7 heavy is still T29, that I still have in the garage. However, I find Tiger I fun to play and effective, but I do not count on the armor, especially I do not side-scrape and I do not rely much on angling it.
I lovethe DPM of Tiger and the penetration.
tiger was the tank i raced towards too and like you was disapointed. however the tiger two is a beast and so is the E75 and despite all the negative media round it i love the E100 for its beast armor
When I first started playing Wot, I wanted to get the Maus because I'd recently seen a documentary and it looked awesome.
I also tried to get tiger first. I still enjoy playing him. A good trick to use it's hull armor is too sidescrape. The sides are flat so it works when done well.
My first wannabe tank was the T29... but when I finally ground to the Tiger, it became one of my Favorites 52-53% WR over 360 games, especially when compared to the difficulty of trying to play the Tiger II vs the IS line which takes a lot more experience. I am relatively recent 5900 games player but I agree the Tiger is a good tank for an average player to shoot for but the Tog comparison is somewhat loose because as you demonstrate, you have to run the Tiger on the margins and stay mobile to do well. The Tiger taught me a lot about the timing and feel of the upper tier games (much more so than the T29).
The old firing sound is so Satisfying on the TIger 1
oh man, the tiger buff made this thing sooooooooooo good. it really is fantastic now.
First tier VII I got was the tiger. It's such a classic WW2 tank!