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  • @GrandLineReview
    @GrandLineReview  2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

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  • @qb4428
    @qb4428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +854

    The one thing Shanks knows best is how to evade child support, because he possesses the Will of D-eadbeat.

    • @yimhere5146
      @yimhere5146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      90% of his bounty is his child support

    • @zuxta
      @zuxta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@yimhere5146 rookie numbers

    • @MerchHunterRicky
      @MerchHunterRicky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      😂😂😂😂 will of dead beat 😤😤😤

    • @TheWanderingWolf2393
      @TheWanderingWolf2393 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Will of Deadbeat! I can't with that 😂😂😂😂

    • @Harryeaster
      @Harryeaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      *Chef kiss.*

  • @The16bithero
    @The16bithero 2 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    I really like that theory that Shanks first wanted to give the Gomu Gomu no Mi to Ace, but Luffy ate it accidentally, but when he learned the kind of person that Luffy is, he was like "you know what? Maybe it was fate"

    • @vincentf1487
      @vincentf1487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like your mom is

    • @calebsolonas6085
      @calebsolonas6085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That's kinda what I'm betting on until we get more information it also shows how well written luffy is. Shanks had a plan to turn ace to joyboy but luffy became a monkey wrench in this plan forcing his will on joyboys there's a very good video explaining that destiny follows luffy not the other way around check out hidden island he has really good discussions on op

    • @The16bithero
      @The16bithero 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@calebsolonas6085 I will, thanks for the recommendation!

    • @calebsolonas6085
      @calebsolonas6085 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The16bithero 👌

  • @farouq7107
    @farouq7107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +512

    If you reread the last chapter of Oden’s journey with Roger, you will see that Shanks went to Roger and asked him questions alone then cried. We don’t know Shanks’s history, so he might have asked Roger about literally anything. And Roger doesn’t mind saying what the “Will of D” is or where “Laugh Tale” is as we saw with him and Whitebeard

    • @BetterCallMoey
      @BetterCallMoey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      why would shanks cry if he asked what the 'will of d' or laugh tale

    • @Alford2m
      @Alford2m 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      He might have revealed that shanks wasn't the one he was waiting for and rather Luffy in some way.

    • @nvademarvel9344
      @nvademarvel9344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@Alford2m thunk it was Roger telling him about his disease

    • @farouq7107
      @farouq7107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nvademarvel9344 The chapter says Shanks asked him a question then started crying. It will be wired if he asked “so, you dying?”

    • @skullerz7213
      @skullerz7213 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nvademarvel9344 it probably is, Roger tells everything to shanks, but he also tells that he can't do it himself cus he has a disease and will die soon.

  • @kaizukokage3yearsago70
    @kaizukokage3yearsago70 2 ปีที่แล้ว +459

    It's just so crazy how that Rayleigh probably knew about this things but Dark King just go along with Shanks plans.

    • @kutairaisu4603
      @kutairaisu4603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Kinda, but Roger told Shanks to carry on his "will". Not Rayleigh.
      So, in a way, Rayleigh isn't following Shank's plans, but Roger's orders

    • @joshuamiravalles1458
      @joshuamiravalles1458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @soled25 "I will not die." I think... I don't know.

    • @tomiepicture9637
      @tomiepicture9637 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshuamiravalles1458 hmm I think that was another time whne he was drinking or something
      But he told Rayleigh something

    • @crazyfriend50
      @crazyfriend50 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tomiepicture9637 no he said he will die when they were drinking

  • @Tanakas7
    @Tanakas7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Look we all know Shanks went to warn them about Buggy, the most diabolical pirate in the world

    • @cantlivewifoutme35
      @cantlivewifoutme35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Captin Buggy is the true Pirate king in my eyes Roger just helped him get there and he was commanded to take the fall. 🤣

    • @mohit-514
      @mohit-514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lord Buggy d clown
      Only ussup d God can be compared to our lord buggy

    • @vincentf1487
      @vincentf1487 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, your mom is

    • @ChrisG1394
      @ChrisG1394 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will a tough fight, I heard buggy would be supported the jacket fruit

    • @karlcupid1274
      @karlcupid1274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@mohit-514 Nuh-uh Con D. Oriano-sama stomps them both low diff

  • @danielnitbach4959
    @danielnitbach4959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    Shank is probably one of the more mysterious characters in the world of One Piece, which is funny considering he was one of the first characters to be introduced into the story. Many people theorized about what pirate or mythological figure is he based off, but I think it's safe to say Oda had some inspiration from a character from the Book "Treasure Island", and the character is Long John Silver. Read about him a bit and you'll see too many coincidences and similarities between him and Shanks.

    • @piyushnarayan9342
      @piyushnarayan9342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I know this but he is not from any mythology nor a story character ,when asked in an interview that why does shanks have such epic moments whenever he appeares in the show oda said himself in an interview that Shanks is what he couldn't be, he is if oda was powerful, the alter ego of oda which is morally and politically unbiased and correct and of course powerful ,SHANKS IS ODA, ODA LIVES THROUGH SHANKS IN ONE PIECE, ODA IS SHANKS.

    • @Caramellutscher
      @Caramellutscher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@piyushnarayan9342 wow

    • @piyushnarayan9342
      @piyushnarayan9342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Caramellutscher yeah I was also mind blown when I heard this.

    • @Kaiselof
      @Kaiselof 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@piyushnarayan9342 I love that oda admitted having a self insert, kind of hearwarming that there are older people being childish.

    • @abovee7103
      @abovee7103 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Caramellutscher My exact thoughts

  • @shadyshrimp4169
    @shadyshrimp4169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    AYY
    Wooahh first time being first, anyways excited for Film Red lol

  • @yimhere5146
    @yimhere5146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Let's not change the fact that Shanks left his daughter and gave his straw hat to a random kid

    • @nonamer0o016
      @nonamer0o016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      We still did not know why shanks leave his daughter alone or it is really his daughter or not.Dont assume thing just base on trailer

    • @mulattens
      @mulattens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@nonamer0o016 yasopp leaving his son, I guess a trait of his crew

    • @nonamer0o016
      @nonamer0o016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@mulattens so i guess benn and lucky also has a son/daughter and they left them too i guess.

    • @yuck1791
      @yuck1791 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Deadbeat pirates

    • @suryanshsoni8809
      @suryanshsoni8809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well thats noncanon

  • @sandesh__aryal
    @sandesh__aryal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I love how this dude explain things in funny ways

  • @mrmopey5960
    @mrmopey5960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I've always loved your content and breakdowns of One Piece, but I can't help but feel your videos are containing less and less breakdown and more filler recently. Its not objectively bad, just not why I watch, would love to see some more videos that are more densely packed with analysis. Because recently it feels like you could reduce the run time by 75% and not lose any actual analysis.
    Just my humble opinion, take care

    • @dannydevito7000
      @dannydevito7000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he's experimenting with different things. He always seems to be quite in tune with his channel analytics.

    • @dakarbrown5474
      @dakarbrown5474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah he kind of lost me

  • @notabyzantophile
    @notabyzantophile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    I think Shanks is actually just an Irishman, more specifically Ned Kelly's father who everyone called red.

    • @Thugginquesadilla
      @Thugginquesadilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just a time traveling super anime Philip J Fry

    • @carlosrenteria2443
      @carlosrenteria2443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      His Main Ship did have a Viking look to it . So maybe

    • @but1z
      @but1z 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      dont think many yanks here know who ned kelly is

  • @saiarjunallamaraju7403
    @saiarjunallamaraju7403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love the fact that Yasopp wears a “No 1 Dad in the world” shirt

  • @hououinkyouma6219
    @hououinkyouma6219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Smile fruits being artificial Zoen DF, and the one smile Vegapunk made was a mythical Zoen and the sun god nika is always smiling and makes everyone around him smile thus making the WG trying to recreate it via vegapunk

    • @elCONQUEROR81
      @elCONQUEROR81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Right! There seems to be something there even if Oda didn’t mean to but it seems impossible he didn’t. Even to the point where an ingredient is called SAD.

    • @Ma11Nas1y
      @Ma11Nas1y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@elCONQUEROR81 Oda? Didnt mean to? Not possible.

    • @elCONQUEROR81
      @elCONQUEROR81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ma11Nas1y lol you right

    • @joeyoaks8950
      @joeyoaks8950 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zoan

    • @phelps6205
      @phelps6205 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Be careful, you need to stretch before doing all that reaching.

  • @MrB3ast6000
    @MrB3ast6000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Luffy do be destroying kaido with big haki fist (Gomu-Gomu no Zunesha Pistol)

    • @MerchHunterRicky
      @MerchHunterRicky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I LOVE that name!

    • @VarnoSlimm
      @VarnoSlimm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe Zunesha Gun or Zunesha cannon

    • @MrB3ast6000
      @MrB3ast6000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VarnoSlimm maybe

    • @shehrlock5780
      @shehrlock5780 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gomu Gomu no Zou-Canon

  • @Asko83
    @Asko83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    My theory: The amount of guards for Gomu Gomu fruit was because the WG leaders had classified intel on need to know basis which mentioned things like "Fruit that looks like *this* is secretly very important. GET IT! ...Also, don't let anyone outside the inner circle know that it is important and potentially disastrous." but did not include the most important details like "what the real name and powers of the fruit are." This would explain the amount of resources and time they spend on trying to get it. It would also explain why Luffy could then walk around as a rubber-man without raising attention. Most WG agents and Marines who saw him, had no idea of the potential threat in him. Like Liam mentions, the Gorosei finding out the complete truth only until Wano is the most likely explanation to plenty of odd actions. I am not 100% convinced that Shanks was the one who told them though, since that would not seem like something he would do, so Im is the one I suspect. And as for why Im didn't tell the whole truth immediately is (in my theory) that Im is so distanced from minor details of ruling the world that he didn't hear about Gomu Gomu fruit until the Reverie. After all, most of WG forces thought it was just a random paramecia of no particular worth. And even to Gorosei it would be "fruit that our predecessors wanted us to get, but keep it down low." But when he finally heard this minor detail, he had a freakout.

    • @renziie2804
      @renziie2804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would have agreed if not for the fact that they know what the fruits powers is since its listed in the devil fruit encyclopedia
      this is from the onepiece wiki>> "However, only a few of them have illustrations, meaning that most Devil Fruits cannot be identified by their appearance. For example, the Gomu Gomu no Mi and the Yami Yami no Mi had pictures and could be recognized prior to consumption"
      so as you said "Fruit that looks like this is secretly very important. GET IT!" if they knew what it looks like then they know it has rubber properties. Then the minute luffy got his 1st wanted poster they should have started chasing him down that instant

  • @tyrian522
    @tyrian522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've seen a few comments mentioning this but in Oden's flashback Shanks asks Roger a question and cries. From my perspective, I don't think this had to do with his disease. There wouldn't be a real reason to keep the question a secret if that was the case. Also- I'd like to say that Shanks was probably in the east blue looking for roger's son (ace) OR he was there because the ship with the devil fruit was there. Anyway, Shanks' bet is still a bet I think, because the Gorosei don't say no one's used the fruit in 800 years, they say no ones awakened it. So it's possible that the potential the fruit sees in it's chosen welders doesn't always come true. This could be why it's still a "Bet" for Shanks. He *could* kill Luffy and have Ace eat the fruit, but he doesn't. Probably because he likes Luffy and doesn't want to see him die. Also, you'd be hard pressed to get me to believe that Shanks saves Luffy because of fate or destiny. Shanks adored Luffy, and Luffy reminded him of his captain.
    All this to say I will be one unhappy camper if it comes out that Shanks is not on Luffy's side.

  • @Mantosasto
    @Mantosasto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait, does the cardboard samurai Gandhi have pee in his pants? wtf hahaha

  • @CodyW_21
    @CodyW_21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Theory: Considering luffy’s fruit had a name and a different type all along what is stopping other devil fruits. Imagine if blackbeard didn’t consume a logia with the yami yami no mi but a mythical zoan thats like the god of the moon or darkness something the complete opposite of the sun. Remember when he fought ace, “the sun or the darkness only one can prevail”. Hinting more as luffy and blackbeard being the final matchup. Sun god vs Dark God.

    • @yoo349
      @yoo349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also his ‘logia’ is not intangible

    • @giliansterckx
      @giliansterckx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yoo349 right? The yami yami no mi has always been considered a weird logia fruit, even in-universe. And the gear 4 transformations were also very weird, I found it strange nobody ever commented on that. If any fruit is ever revealed to be a similar "hito hito" mythical zoan, it would be the yami yami I think.
      Though it would be weird to pull the same twist twice, especially when the first instance happened to the protagonist. Repeating the twist with another character could never have the same effect.

    • @limdoo-yr.8748
      @limdoo-yr.8748 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He told special "Logia". Maybe the author doesn't yet come up the term Mythical zoan that time

    • @Mayank_immortal
      @Mayank_immortal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Last fight will be between luffy vs buggy mark my words.

  • @chrissj2513
    @chrissj2513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have a one piece theory.. What if luffy is the main character of one piece?

    • @stoodz991
      @stoodz991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s a good theory that’s something to think about

    • @just.nobody
      @just.nobody 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting 🤔

    • @Sir-Vesh
      @Sir-Vesh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the best theory I have heard in a long time

    • @firstaidsack
      @firstaidsack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OMG, you're right! it was even foreshadowed in the first chapter! GODA!

  • @D.Broker
    @D.Broker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who else thinks that Shanks wasn't saving Luffy's life but instead was merely preventing the Devil Fruit from being reborn somewhere else in the world?

    • @justbandile5625
      @justbandile5625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why would he give his arm up then?

    • @D.Broker
      @D.Broker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@justbandile5625 I would guess so that the Celestial Dragons / World Government didn't get it.
      The fact that they attacked a WG ship to get it in the first place shows that he didn't want them to have it.

    • @scarletpurple7801
      @scarletpurple7801 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because the fruit is that important

  • @Majorkill675
    @Majorkill675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I want to point out the fact that *NOT ONCE* did Liam say anything personal postive about raid shadow legends. In fact, he *went out of his way* to avoid saying positive things about them

    • @xavmanisdabestest
      @xavmanisdabestest 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interesting.

    • @JoseRodriguez-jn2ur
      @JoseRodriguez-jn2ur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Bro shut up we want our little boy Liam to live well

    • @shaddykack
      @shaddykack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      One piece tuber-best boy gotta eat too!

    • @Aether_GM
      @Aether_GM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoseRodriguez-jn2ur bro shut up, you don't play raid shadow legends. None of us do.

    • @WillyTung
      @WillyTung 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Someone is still going to fall prey to this game because of the sponsor.
      There is no justification for sponsoring this garbage besides an alternative to starving.

  • @mirrorimage2866
    @mirrorimage2866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    where is the 'if you are a new OR OLD member of the fleet', i always want to say hi and become subscriber of the day but i am never allowed 😭😂

  • @MasterMarciTV
    @MasterMarciTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Damn i really need more Shanks screentime in OP

    • @nonamer0o016
      @nonamer0o016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      After wano,we might see more of shanks and also one piece red

    • @MerchHunterRicky
      @MerchHunterRicky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We’re definitely going to get a large amount

    • @zura4546
      @zura4546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nonamer0o016 With the trailer released lately. I wouldnt be surprised if Shanks only appears in one or two flashback

    • @nonamer0o016
      @nonamer0o016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zura4546 Tbf,the movie is about him so would be weird if he only appear very less time or only flashback

    • @1ia802
      @1ia802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      shanks is one of those characters that appear once every like thousand years, yet still make a huge and iconic impact on the series. my favorite types of characters.

  • @nocnyautobus9971
    @nocnyautobus9971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Of course he knew. I was even wondering for a time, if actually he wasn't looking for Ace but an accident happened. Then he just went with it.

    • @adityabhatnagar4715
      @adityabhatnagar4715 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think he was since ace being Roger's son was a last minute decision by oda around the marineford arc, but idk😅

    • @alsajid5256
      @alsajid5256 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adityabhatnagar4715 Last Minute decision? And Oda? Nope, not in this life

    • @nocnyautobus9971
      @nocnyautobus9971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adityabhatnagar4715 You know how Oda works. He's an retcon master. He wasn't planning it from the start, yes. But now it seems like he was.

    • @adityabhatnagar4715
      @adityabhatnagar4715 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alsajid5256 Bro he really did, Oda said this in an interview or an SBS

    • @saylucki
      @saylucki 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adityabhatnagar4715 yeah it was an interview

  • @anthokuboyahoo
    @anthokuboyahoo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    My headcanon is that Shanks planned on giving Ace the fruit. He wasn't sure of where to find Ace but must have had some idea since he ended up on the same island Ace and Luffy lived on.
    Luffy just happened to get to it first.

    • @adolfdrippler243
      @adolfdrippler243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That’s what I was thinking. Also explains why he bet his arm on Luffy.

    • @HiHi-ly2yv
      @HiHi-ly2yv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why would he be looking for ace as ace had not made a name for himself and shanks also didn't know that Roger had a child atleast I don't think anyone knew that Roger had a child except garp and then later luffy

    • @Lebowski92
      @Lebowski92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HiHi-ly2yv I think Rayleigh knew...🤔

    • @HiHi-ly2yv
      @HiHi-ly2yv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Lebowski92 in the flashback Rayleigh said that Roger doesn't have a child and it has never been shown that Rayleigh knows ace is Roger's son so there is no proof to say that Rayleigh know that

    • @Lebowski92
      @Lebowski92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HiHi-ly2yv Ah, ok. Thanks fo clarification. There just was a floating memory in my head about Roger and Rayleigh mentioning Rogers wish(?) to have a son or something 🤔.
      So I thought it wouldn't be too far stretched to assume that later on Rayleigh perhabs had gained information about Ace, but we just did not see it.

  • @arielavesmorales5645
    @arielavesmorales5645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dragon knew. All the signs are there. From the beginning Dragon always said to Luffy to follow his destiny. He was on the island by the time Shanks was too. Dragon must be behind something.

  • @passive6829
    @passive6829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If indeed Shanks knew everything about the future in regards to Luffy, it might explain the plot hole and his evasiveness throughout the story trying to avoid as much contact as possible with Luffy being afraid that his knowledge of the future might sabotage the actual order of events to occur perhaps?

    • @Akustka23
      @Akustka23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So basically shanks is a self insert?

    • @passive6829
      @passive6829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Akustka23 if you actually think about it this is not the first time shanks does something of this sort(warning/discussing with the gorosei about specific pirate x or y)
      he did the same thing with whitebeard all that time ago warning him to call back ace not to charge towards blackbeard, as if he was trying to prevent some future incident from happening while he had knowledge of blackbeard that couldnt have been attained at the time in any normal circumstances (literally blackbeard's crew his "family" couldnt tell what the guy's true character is so some random pirate in opposition group has a better idea?)

  • @yedffgd
    @yedffgd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I'm still skeptical of the idea that Shanks told the Elders about Luffy's fruit. Keep in mind that scene took place well over a month before the raid on Onigashima, so it's really weird that the Elders only started panicking once round 3 of Luffy vs Kaido began.

    • @zannynyx4297
      @zannynyx4297 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's still a chance that the gorosei are actually working towards same goal as shanks...

    • @Aarika101
      @Aarika101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zannynyx4297 to overthrown Imu maybe?

    • @tomiepicture9637
      @tomiepicture9637 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No no no
      I don’t think luffy
      I mean maybe he told about Blackbeard
      They know about his fruit from long ago since they said it always evaded them
      They knew it makes body rubber so they should’ve knows long ago it was luffy since remember in dressrosa when luffy fighting for ace fruit
      Luffy tried to not stretch cuz ppl know his powers
      And why would shanks like endanger luffy when he always happy hearing bout him
      Well this is what I’m saying who knows who is right I hope it will be revealed soon I mean LOTS OF MYSTERIOUS STFF AND STUFF I WANT TO HAPPEN LIKE LUFFY AND SHANKS REUNITE LUFFY MEETS HIS DAD WHO LUFFY MOTHER IS WHO IS IMU WWT HAPPEND TO SABO AND VIVI AND SO ON

    • @Gavynnnnn
      @Gavynnnnn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually it makes sense. They began panicking when they realized that Luffy might actually have a shot of bringing Kaido down. And a God fruit user *stronger* than Kaido? That would quite literally be the worst case scenario for them

    • @ChrisG1394
      @ChrisG1394 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gavynnnnn just realize that Imus and the gorosensei just chilling on pangaea because of they tried to reach luffy they will (the strawhats) disappear like the fruit alleyways get away

  • @jams_at_vans
    @jams_at_vans 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "With great fruit, comes great irresponsibility"
    - Shanks (probably)

  • @avielingal
    @avielingal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You forgot the 6th decree in Shanksland...
    NO CLAPPING.

  • @HallowedLight
    @HallowedLight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My theroy is that the pirate kings crew found out the time line needed for the future, and Shanks was chosen to bring the fruit to Ace if he could get it. When he brought it to the island Luffy was chosen instead, and since you can't uneat the apple, Shanks went all in with Luffy being the chosen one instead of Ace.
    I only think this because if they knew they needed a D., Ace would be one, with both the inherited will of Roger and Joyboy.

    • @zura4546
      @zura4546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shanks wanted to give it to ace but there he is leaving the fruit Open in the middle of the bar and call it "accident", lol

  • @ishaanonic
    @ishaanonic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hi, am a new subber

  • @segetario3810
    @segetario3810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @GrandLineReview I'd love to hear your thoughts on the most recent episode 1015 of the anime. I thought it was incredible but don't have the manga to compare it to.

  • @JoDON111
    @JoDON111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Not sure you mentioned this or not:
    at one scene:
    Garp was told Luffy have 1.5 B on the bounty, and yet he said: he is still a fledgling.
    Which could suggest that he also knew the fruit hidden awakening

    • @vortexvoidz1300
      @vortexvoidz1300 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no I would assume it's because Garp went up against Roger who has a 5.5b bounty and other strong pirates

  • @kamuioak3551
    @kamuioak3551 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait how a door with only left handles. My humangus brain and even yours can't imagine it. Maybe the one piece is a door with only left handles but is so ridiculous that is funny. Maybe the world government tried to hide it because if someone try to think of it their mind will explode. Maybe pluton is a left handed door. Maybe Luffy is the key to open the left handed door. Hmmmm.

  • @Michael_mki233
    @Michael_mki233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "The only thing that changed between Wano and not Wano was speaking to Shanks."
    True...unless you count Big Mom's fall and Luffy being in a legitimate position to put Kaido down, which would destabilize the current power structure of the sea, which the World Govt didn't want...But yeah, other than that, lol.

  • @LeanLordOfficial
    @LeanLordOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait, what if someone had a water water fruit. . . or something like that, if that is even possible, and what happens if you swim??? Or what if you have a mermaid fruit???

  • @madelinemcmillan4020
    @madelinemcmillan4020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I feel like the whole act of shanks saving luffy becomes a lot less impactful if it was all about the fruit of destiny and less about shanks just seeing a bit of himself in the kid. I mean, the very key things that made luffy someone who follows shanks example as a pirate and someone who laughs off insults, cherishes his friends no matter what? no its just because he ate the fruit so shanks had so choice but to pick luffy. what a terrible reveal that would be.
    I can totally get on the fruit willing itself into their path, and them unknowing giving to luffy who is supposed to get it.

    • @kutairaisu4603
      @kutairaisu4603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Not really. Luffy, before eating the fruit, had already said "the same words" that Roger did (Liam did a vid on that, not so long ago)
      We still don't know what those words were, but Luffy showed he had inherited Roger's will.
      Besides, you really think Shanks wouldn't have saved him regardless?

    • @jorgenitales412
      @jorgenitales412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      something tells me that luffy wouldn't like to hear that he is bound by fate.

    • @zannynyx4297
      @zannynyx4297 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tbf, if u realise who shanks is and how strong he's supposed to be, him losing his hand sounds more like manipulation and theatrics to me rather than willingness to give up his arm for the future... Originally it might've been all about shanks being the father figure and leading Luffy on but at this point I think oda is either trying to paint him a villian to later reveal he was always trying to help, or have him be helpful ultimately to turn into the big bad evil

    • @rickastley3045
      @rickastley3045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It would be a nice reveal to see Shanks open the box and leaving it in front of luffy. That would fix alot

    • @madelinemcmillan4020
      @madelinemcmillan4020 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kutairaisu4603 yes your right, shanks would have still saved him regardless. its just not a reveal I would personally care for and feel like it would distract/weaken the once heartfelt sacrifice he made a sort of spur of the moment in his concern for luffy without thinking >> to a seemingly more a calculated/manipulative move on shanks part.
      the sentiment behind the moment would feel like its been cheapened, if focus is concentrated on the importance of the DF.
      might give that video a watch though, it sounds interesting

  • @fritzhans3650
    @fritzhans3650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:45 - Didnt Kuma send them to there training places before he told rayleigh and rayleigh was like "ok, im fine with that"?

  • @kutairaisu4603
    @kutairaisu4603 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    One thing I've been thinking lately, is that Oden says something along the lines of "when we reached that island we learnt everything about the world", plus the laughing reaction.
    Reaction being the key word. It doesn't seem like they investigated, or even read a poneglyph. It almost seems that as soon as they saw the One Piece, they just... knew. And laughed.
    It really intrigues me. I don't think it was like a flood of information, but rather something so simple it was so overlooked that they laughted at how ridiculous it all was. Or how simple.

  • @roronoapapi3242
    @roronoapapi3242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a new subscriber! 👋🏼 Sanji stronger doflamingo now

  • @thevideo-beast122
    @thevideo-beast122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can never get into “Shanks knew all along” because you have to make way too many assumptions to make it work.

  • @YonkoJ
    @YonkoJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liam does have a God power which makes people love his videos and awaken the power to Subscribe. This is his Grand Godly power

  • @scottpeg194
    @scottpeg194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I imagine Big Mom waking up at the end of this and questioning Luffy about his fruit, and it will be her that tells Luffy the true nature of his Devil Fruit. At least, if her information network is as good as she says it is.

    • @Lebowski92
      @Lebowski92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great idea!
      I'am really interested what will happen with her, because she doesn't seem finally beaten but more so positioned in the background...

  • @RijoroTheOne
    @RijoroTheOne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5 am and its a perfect time to upload 🤝since im bored W

  • @chipsweaters
    @chipsweaters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The elders are good guys. They needed Luffy to die, so he would awaken.

    • @MerchHunterRicky
      @MerchHunterRicky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dont do this to me. This is some film Zed level stuff right here

    • @gustavogg8729
      @gustavogg8729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      not a chance, good guys? being the head of a slavery system ujum....

  • @chromo-sapienguy6879
    @chromo-sapienguy6879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I almost forgot what we were talking about cuz video was so funny

  • @Infritblade123
    @Infritblade123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You know at first I was sure that Luffy was “a certain pirate”. But now I’m starting to believe that Oda intended for us to go down that rabbit-hole. Shanks snitching on Luffy so that the Gorosei would kill him which would then awaken the fruit seems a bit.. absurd. I don’t think the prerequisite to awakening Luffy’s fruit was death, but rather the sheer willpower to continue. Which leaves me with two possibilities: Evil Shanks, or someone like Rocks D Xebec is still alive.

    • @ChrisG1394
      @ChrisG1394 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But shanks had called it gomu gomu no and got a poster probably by roger to find it and make it as a present for the new era and know one could told him that is the nikafruit and then the gorosei realized it and was 100% sure that they have to kill luffy so shanks is just not the evil one he is more kind of uninformated

    • @Infritblade123
      @Infritblade123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChrisG1394 Wouldn’t make sense for him to tell them Luffy has the gomu-gomu unless he knew what it was. So he either snitched on Luffy due to some ulterior motive, or he wasn’t talking about Luffy to begin with.

  • @shadowredstone7123
    @shadowredstone7123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the world government knew that it was the god fruit but not that it was the gum gum fruit and not that fluffy had eaten it, I think they still knew that you had to awaken it and what would happen if that happens

  • @dethspud
    @dethspud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Yes, Shanks knew and he totally got the 5 Elder Farts to do the thing Shanks knew Luffy needed to do to awaken his DF.

  • @islapulikechris_13
    @islapulikechris_13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please stfu about the subscribe button I don't care I'm already subscribed💞😍

  • @MARSHALLDPREACH
    @MARSHALLDPREACH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Shanks made a deal with the Gorosei. He would maintain balance within the 3 powers. And the Gorosei would stay away from Luffy.

    • @rochdicorsaire9338
      @rochdicorsaire9338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      when I first saw your comment I thought it was mine, ( I see your man of culture as well )

    • @MARSHALLDPREACH
      @MARSHALLDPREACH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rochdicorsaire9338 🔥

  • @joshleroux6731
    @joshleroux6731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really weird how technically luffy has eaten a “smile” fruit

  • @smkryptic
    @smkryptic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Video 58
    I love the videos and I like the subscriber of the day. Let me get 1

  • @Slash_a
    @Slash_a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yknow, in retrospect it’s crazy how relevant Shanks is in the story considering how little he’s on screen

  • @gadimeydav8883
    @gadimeydav8883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and great channel! Also I'm a new and satisfied member of grand line review

  • @poemirtiza
    @poemirtiza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Unrelated but Doflamingo should've injected the mera mera no mi with poison. That way even if someone else wins it, they would eat it and die (I know he never anticipated someone else winning it). He could then simply scout out the fruit again lmao. This is truly doflamingo levels of evil.

    • @Raaxon
      @Raaxon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Have we thus far seen any evidence of being able to tamper with a Devil Fruit directly? It might not be possible. The closest we've seen is the Rumble Ball, and frankly, the fact we never saw the Rumble Ball weaponised against Zoan fruit users to destabilize their transforming is shocking.

    • @GoldStorm07
      @GoldStorm07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He wouldn't have wanted to give up the option of giving the fruit to one of his subordinates. Maybe Dellinger.

    • @poemirtiza
      @poemirtiza 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Raaxon I have a feeling that devil fruits are a new addition to the one piece world. I say this because back in East Blue it was almost like a myth that such a thing exists, which would not be the case if df always existed. I think the abilities sure did exist and came from some form of haki (parvision theories) and maybe it has prolly been like a couple decades or 100 years or so since it was possible to harness the power from the soul and putting them into fruits. Kaido in 1047 also says haki is much more superior. Even if it did exist, I think the WG had much more control over them before than now and tried to hide them from common people and the great pirate age is what spiraled everything out of control. This would explain why the marines were heavily guarding the gomu gomu fruit, they probably send out marines to retrieve df from the public and luffy's df just happened to be on that ship. Explains why the elders were guarding the fruit despite knowing nothing about it.

  • @SaedestOne
    @SaedestOne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi (: i’ve failed every “guess who or what” so i subbed like 50 times now

  • @OmnibuslPrime
    @OmnibuslPrime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    With all the talk about Luffy's fruit, wondering what people are thinking about Luffy's bounty post-Wano.
    Personally, I think it won't go up. It'll could be removed entirely.
    The World Government decide that Luffy is truly too dangerous to be left alive and so what do they do? Erase him from history. Starting with getting rid of his bounty and they stop circulating his bounty poster; all while doing what they can to silently kill this massive threat to their status quo. If the Gorosei are involved, I can see them wanting to erase his existence.
    Luffy with his awakening is probably the most dangerous thing to the World Government right now and bringing more attention to him with a massive bounty increase probably isn't something they want given the nature of the awakening and the history of Sun God Nika, Warrior of Liberation.

  • @mariosgers
    @mariosgers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kinda off topic, but is decree #5 a Bill and Ted reference? 😂

  • @Aarika101
    @Aarika101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Knowing that Shanks's crew was the one who stole the most precious and feared devil fruit why were the gorosei still let him in and talk to him, and not capturing him instead?
    So I have a very wild theory and just bear with me... What if the gorosei are actually conspiring with Shanks (or maybe even Roger) to overthrown Imu?

    • @Lebowski92
      @Lebowski92 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great theory! You're right, I didn't thought about why the gorosei would even talk to him after his crew stole this Importamt fruit from them.
      There has to be something...

  • @adamstriebich530
    @adamstriebich530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Get that good raid money

  • @vio8491
    @vio8491 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like Shanks knew that the awakening of the fruit is activated through "death", which means that he tricked the gorosei into killing Luffy so he can awaken it. Maybe.

    • @elCONQUEROR81
      @elCONQUEROR81 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought that might be possible as well. If only Oda would confirm that then we can speculate what’s going on even further

  • @areias1994
    @areias1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if the one piece is the full potential that luffy as already consumed? 🤔

  • @narucreed1
    @narucreed1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm honestly leaning towards Shanks wanting balanced control. Not a complete governed world, but a balance throughout the world. He realizes Luffy is getting too powerful, and although he doesn't specifically want to, knows Luffy needs to be stopped. I think Shanks isn't evil, just has ideals that don't 100 percent coincide with Luffy's complete freedom ideals.

    • @bigazTV
      @bigazTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Umm this is the guy who was part of Roger crew which was about being free.. also puffy freedom doesn’t intend to hurt anybody 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @ivanbaumann1237
      @ivanbaumann1237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well i thought a conflict between luffy and shanks could be that shanks wants him to fulfill some kind of prophecy, but luffy does not care about it, because he just wants to be free 🤷‍♂️

    • @narucreed1
      @narucreed1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bigazTV So was Buggy, but he had different ideals to say the least. I'm not saying Shanks is as bad as Buggy by any means, but he's bound to not live exactly like Roger.

    • @narucreed1
      @narucreed1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ivanbaumann1237 That's very possible and it would line up with GLR theory. Anything's possible with both Blackbeard and the WG as major antagonists. We have a ways to go yet.

  • @fritzhans3650
    @fritzhans3650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you make does viedos by your own and did Monkey D. Doggo got some pats for my sub?

  • @nvademarvel9344
    @nvademarvel9344 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasn't the voice actor of raily the same va for thr opening theme in s1

  • @vladr8968
    @vladr8968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fruit chooses the wizard. Not the other way Mr Luffy

  • @koanlover
    @koanlover 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tell your new graphics artist that they're doing a great job, and that we love them.

  • @jaysondewitte4499
    @jaysondewitte4499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I beval part of the team and subscribed. Lessss goooo

  • @666marrin
    @666marrin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Said it long time ago,but noobs were laughing xD

  • @greensolo6163
    @greensolo6163 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What shanks does not know is how many children think of him as a dad

  • @DjDaveVA
    @DjDaveVA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crocus knows everything ಠ_ಠ

  • @m1m1mal16
    @m1m1mal16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Liam my true name is liam So idk that kinda cool

  • @bonkchonk8352
    @bonkchonk8352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THEORYU TIME!!!!!!!!! here so the title is 'shanks knew all along' and we know shanks is a red hair pirate what letter does red start with ???? yes an r !!!!!!! and if you count how many letters are in red hair pirates it adds up TO 14 and count 14 letters through the title and put an r after that letter so now the title is 'shanks knew all arlong' this doesnt make sense right ????? well it does if you add s (for shanks) after the arlong you get arlong which implies there are multiple arlongs and shanks knew themmmmmmmmmm which may indicate that the fish man we fought we knew as arlong is a hivemind ()()()()()())() whats also a hivemind yoou may askkkkk bees !!!!!! if yoiu spell bees how its spelt you get By then add ng from arlong and you get byng a british admiral whos most famous act was in 1718 what also happened in 1718 THE PIRATE BLACKBEARD DIED so what we can infer from this little theory of mine is blackbeard admiral byng and arlong work as a hivemind and kneeww shanks and if you nremove the last s (for shanks) from shanks you get shank which is what happens to you if you step in south london ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so shanks, admiral byng, arlongt and blackbeard are all hiveminds working for south london now read the first letter of every word

  • @juanka_3342
    @juanka_3342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i would put my money on the fecal matter 😂

  • @tarthur11
    @tarthur11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no left handed doors. huh. so what do you do once you go through a door with the handle on the right, close it behind you, and now the handle is on the left

    • @NYSportsfan4
      @NYSportsfan4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      do a zoro and cut a opening for you

  • @jazzinjozi
    @jazzinjozi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you walked in a right handed door wouldn't you be using a left handed door on the way out?

    • @elCONQUEROR81
      @elCONQUEROR81 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You op bro!! You are a god tier thinker

  • @thegarrigongs7444
    @thegarrigongs7444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New rule your hair hast to be tie-dyed red

  • @crusaderclown1665
    @crusaderclown1665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First and hi grand line review

  • @ulrikecobrado4835
    @ulrikecobrado4835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who's the artist that makes those cardboard cartoon one piece character's?

  • @catalinariversong3575
    @catalinariversong3575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Correction- the world government has wanted luffy dead since marineford, Blackbeard was supposed to capture Luffy for execution but captured ace instead

  • @MerchHunterRicky
    @MerchHunterRicky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    NOT FRUIT!!!! HOW COULD YOU?!
    (Sorry for the hate on your last video in dude in room. I was in a shit mood and shouldve hopped off the comments. Allow me to renege my rudeness, i do sincerely apologize)

  • @dajohnstamon25
    @dajohnstamon25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never come this early and I’ve only made it because I just got off night shift for the first time. I love this channel and look forward to it to listen to in the shower ❤️ I’ll be back at 3pm EST

  • @TapeManX2
    @TapeManX2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spoiler warning? What about the part where u and Ohara put super saiyan luffy (gear 5 or w/e) in the preview image of like the last 10 videos and how people deffffffff might not have known yet.. I love both of your channels but honestly it's kinda depressing to just know that now and yet be only as far as the current anime episode... I appreciate how you separate talks of the Manga from the anime generally. Look im not saying im unsubbing or some crap just putting my 2 berry . Kudos to your new sketch artist sooo jeaaalllous

  • @nado_edits
    @nado_edits 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think shanks know so much because he did the amazing thing of pressing the subscribe button for the GrandLineReview will resulted into consistent injections of One Piece culture being administered directly into his Den Den Mushi

  • @Vegapunkk
    @Vegapunkk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think Shanks spoke to the Gorosei about Luffy. Reason I say that is because, the elders would have given the order to kill Luffy way before Wano. Why did they suddenly realise in the middle of a fight with Kaido that the devil fruit is the one they want?

  • @andryduarte9164
    @andryduarte9164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the idea that Shanks was not randomly in East Blue, but rather was there to give the Gomu Gomu no Mi to Ace, considering he probably knew that Roger had a kid given that he and Roger had spoken, and Roger offhandely mentioned that his son would be the one to conquer the seas. That would make it logical as to why he was there, but given that Luffy was saying the exact same things as Roger once Luffy came around to eating the fruit it clicked with him that Luffy could be the one that he was actually looking for, even though both of them having D in their names fate could have probably gone either way.
    I also don't know if this is a theory or not, but I like the idea that Roger was an aberration in the wheel of fate. In the story he and Luffy are completely interchangeable in terms of personality and either one of them could have been the one to get to Laugh Tale the first time and arrive afterwards aswell. The fact that he was "20 years to early" is fascinating, like sure things need to happen for the world to change, but he just happened to have the willpower and desire to reach the island that was so strong that he made it there and learned what was actually going on so much earlier than everyone else by pure chance. They refer to it as 20 years to early, meaning that they probably would have been able to affect the world had they gotten to be there in the present time in the world, and that is super cool.

  • @herring3997
    @herring3997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shanks is red daddy 🥵

  • @cats198nz8
    @cats198nz8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RAID SHADOW LEDGENDS

  • @tenorsaxy3567
    @tenorsaxy3567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have my left arm tho

  • @WingsOfEnd
    @WingsOfEnd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven't watched this guy for a while the beard threw me off so badly lol

  • @timbrwolf1121
    @timbrwolf1121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My theory is actually the opposite. Shanks only knew what roger told him. Which was basically anything he asked but I copied my post from another video 'So I know why Roger was laughing now. I also know what Whitebeard meant when he was speaking to Blackbeard. All that work. Roger and his crew put everything on the line and learned the whole history. What did the whole history say? They weren't the ones. They learned about Nika and the Gomu Gomu no Mi. That's what Roger told Shanks that made him cry. He told him he couldn't be the real king. Shanks had to find the fruit. Not to become nika or anything, but to guide the future in the right direction. Maybe Shanks knew the fruit would eventually find its user and he just wanted to be there. The range of emotions he had to have been feeling when Luffy ate the fruit "Is that bad?" "Is he Joyboy?" "He's just a kid!" "I have to lie to him?" "If I don't lie he'll be in danger!" LUFFY YOU ATE THE GUM GUM FRUIT! YOU ARE RUBBER! " Nothing else " '

  • @amadddd0
    @amadddd0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now that luffy can destroy things with conquers haki, HE CAN FREE GUYMON 🤣
    Laugh tale MAKES SO MUCH MORE SENSE now. Cause the tale is undoubtedly a bugs bunny like cartoon where a person with absurd power makes a fool of some big shot in the most benign cartoony way.

  • @dineshkhatiwada6900
    @dineshkhatiwada6900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    these beard and non-beard videos are confusing about GRANDLINERIVIEW timeline.

  • @ar1o.831
    @ar1o.831 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hello
    shout out pls

  • @codafett
    @codafett 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still say Shanks is an insider working for Im. He's way too connected to too many people to just be coincidence.

  • @therealmiki4301
    @therealmiki4301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hellow GrandLineReview. Its always a treat to watch you talk about One Piece.
    Thank you.
    Love from Denmark.

  • @nanach6276
    @nanach6276 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dragon is Roger's son Cuz the Weather Suddenly Changed in Ep 0 and helped Roger away from Shiki. Roger was 20 when he got Dragon and eventually got everyone to believe Garp was his father. Roger was 53 when he died and Dragon was 53 when introduced