And in the end, blood ended up proving true because he acted just like his bio dad would have, but also... just like his actual dad did. It's such a tragic and painful character moment because once you read the ace, luffy and sabo history, you see that he's always been that way. Then it connects back to Alabasta and being unable to leave until he was sure Luffy was safely away from Smoker and his obstinancy in protecting the Spade pirates when being recruited by Whitebeard... ugh, heart. ;.;
@@7thlittleleopard7 no it's tragic because he was chained to his past and couldn't let go of the hate he felt for himself and his legacy. The point is he wasn't Roger and that's why he died because he wasn't his father.
I believe that choosing Duty over Family has left Garp a broken man. Sengoku knowing Garp's state of mind knew the whole time that Garp could end up turning on them which is why he kept looking at Garp and questioning him during the war. Garp betraying Marine would give * "EMOTIONAL DAMAGE" to all Marines. For Garp is the "Hero of the Marines". It'd cause chaos to those who idolize him as his "HERO". What even is Justice, if Garp saved Ace, A criminal, Big threat, to the World Government?
Justice is subjective, that's why every admiral has their own brand of it. If Garp had his way and ripped Akainu apart, it would have been "Familial Justice" or something (insert Fast and Furious meme here) I still wanna see Garp trounce Akainu, ngl.
@@etinarcadiaego7424 yes thriller bark was good but it was surrounded by two great arcs I wish it could have been spaced out a little better so it gets more shine.
No hate, love the joke. But in Japanese, his name is basically White Mustache. However, that doesn't sound nearly as good in English. So translators changed it in the subtitles and the dub to say White Beard.
I think the reason why Kiado was blown past is due to how much of his back story is tied to The Rocks pirates. There’s going to be some backstory about them, and oda didn’t want to give too much away. It’ll probably be right after egg head or during.
In my opinion I think Ace's death was beautiful because of what shanks said. He said Roger would have done the same thing for his crew but just that Ace was not strong enough. Some may think it is a dumb way to die but to me its beautiful how much ace loves and respects his crew.
Even though I don't like how Ace died, genuinely think less of him for it, and think he was an idiot because of it, I don't think it's bad writing. It feels pretty in character for him given how much he clearly cared for his family. Especially because of the irony that Whitebeard loving Ace like a son and him loving WB as a father in return is ultimately a LARGE part of what got him killed.
@@SlashinatorZ I never said Ace deserved to die. I said the way he died fits his character, because he's both stubborn and overly defensive when it comes to family. So while I think he's an idiot for doing it and I actually like him less for it, it isn't bad writing like a lot of people have claimed. And that's because Ace starting a fight because he loves his family falls in line with his established pattern of behavior.
@@SlashinatorZ ace's death was meant to be an emotional moment for the viewers and push luffy to get stronger. Squard dying would provide nothing to the story. The narrative always come first,
i agree that it fits his character, especially after reading the ace novels. I dont think less of him for it. He loved Whitebeard and that love and ambition was something he risked dying for. truly heartbreaking and dumb choice but I could see any of the straw hats having a similar moment.
I actually like how Ace died, it is just so realistic and makes sense for his character and it also makes it more tragic because it could have been avoided. I mean how many people die in real life because they did some stupid shit or they made poor decision?
I mean how many people in life have been goaded into a fight because someone else calls your loved one something you just can't let go? It was something most of us can relate to, but we didn't have to have a lava fist go through us in response.
@@Someaddress555sTrue but to be fair, if I was Luffy and you were Ace, and you got yourself murdered after we tried our best to free you, I'll be sad but I'll also call you dumb as heck.
@@blacksmoke6292 where did I claim it wasn't a dumb emotional response? He was 20 when he died, and I'd expect a 20 year old to be easier to manipulate emotionally like that than someone in their 30s or older.
I do understand why people feel like One Piece is going too slow especially if you're reading week-to-week. But honestly... I'm always amazed on how much Oda manage to cram up so much informations in so few pages, especially in the recent chapters. Please, go back and read the last 10 chapters or so, and you might realize how fast everything is moving in the story.
You can say that again. I mean, people rave about Chainsaw Man, but reading it weekly is the same thing as browsing over a leaflet regarding how much content there is in each chapter
"What changed post-timeskip?": I think I'd say the story become less character-driven and became more plot-driven. We basically stopped getting new crewmates post-timeskip, so the focus was less on the characters and more on world-building. Pre-timeskip, each arc was basically driven by solving a problem for someone we got to know and care about over the course of the story. Post-timeskip, each arc is more about filling us in on the politics of the world and how everything connects together. Wholecake was kind of a exception, since we got to learn a lot more about Sanji, and I think it was a stronger arc for that. Post-timeskip, a lot more of the mysteries of the world came into focus. I think this is partially why everyone keeps expecting different characters to join the Strawhats, like Carrot and Yamato. We've been trained to think that every character we care about WILL join the Strawhats, because that's how the story worked Pre-timeskip. And it's no secret the other Strawhats, other than Luffy, just haven't gotten as much time to shine, Post-timeskip. They're almost background characters in the manga. We really haven't gotten as many heartfelt or emotional moments with them as we did Pre-timeskip. But, that's because they're NOT the focus, the world-building and politics and mysteries are. There's also the smaller power issue. Pre-timeskip, the Strawhats were basically the scrappy underdogs, having to try to be clever to get around the problems they came up against. Post-timeskip, they're all a lot stronger and more capable, which makes grunts and smaller enemies a non-issue. Pre-timeskip, there's NO WAY Usopp could handle a dozen grunts, but he can one-shot the group of them now. It changes how the fights work. There's also a bit of inconsistency, since characters like Nami and Usopp feel like they can vary in strength almost from scene to scene. There's also the panelling. Over the years Oda has just crammed more and more detail and panels into the page-space. Compare a page from the manga from the beginning to today. Where before, he might have a few pages that only had 3 larger panels on a page, nowadays almost every page is 6 or more panels PACKED with detail. It's impressive...but it can also feel a little claustrophic. It's all just a bit much, and it kind of messes with the flow a bit. And I think it's kind of hurt the appeal of Gear 5 a bit for me. It's a over-the-top cartoony form that FEELS like it should be breaking page-borders and be huge...but it's kind of constrained by the smaller, more numerous panels. Each arc has also gotten MUCH longer Post-timeskip. Where before we had a few smaller arcs, Post-timeskip has been made up almost exclusively of longer arcs. Maybe this is part of the world-building and how each arc feeds into one another, but it changes how the pacing works, too. Wano was the biggest offender by far. Wano was long. Maybe too long. But, like Skypeia, I'll bet there's a reason why we spent so long there.
4:38 I think thriller bark getting hated is a bit from a meme of people asking about thriller bark and the only response being "Nothing happened"..... the meme killed the hype for the arc lol
@@toucheyes9248 exactly. I think because of the nothing happened moment. It led to a misunderstanding that nothing happened in thriller bark for people who haven't seen the show
10:24 for the most part this is accurate. Shonen movies tend to re-introduce the main characters in some fashion or another. The recent Spider-Man skipped the Uncle Ben plot point. We’ve all know in some fashion or another
Big Mom was terrifyingly brutal, the way she can change on a dime from a emperor to a child then murderous mindless child with strength and power beyond anyone else.
There will never be a time when EVERYONE who reads/watches any piece of media will all be happy about it. There will be things one group loves while the other hates it. As for new members to the crew, almost every arc has had that one or two pseudo members that will be kinda apart of the crew for that time. They won’t always fully join the crew but they’ll basically be an honorary member. While not official, Yamato and Carrot are Straw Hats, much like Vivi is basically apart of the crew Each crew member has their reasons for being on the crew. Vivi, for instance, is but has duties elsewhere so she can’t SAIL with the main body. One day, at the end of One Piece, the Straw Hats will have a MASSIVE party involving everyone they’ve made friends with and it will be the biggest event in history. P.S. I bet that’s how it’s gonna end.
I agree with the you on the tension argument. I had to stop reading Dressrosa twice because I felt a slog. I thought I didn’t like one piece anymore, but I took a break and now I’m back reading weekly.
I love kaido backstory. He is a boy soldier that survive everything, he was supposed to die on the first day but he became the strongest beast and that's why he only respect power and expect other people to be powerful or be dominated. Hope that is expand in the anime
Fun reminder: During the Impel Down escape, there were three Yonko in the prison at the same time. That prison had zero chance to survive them. That and the monstrous dumb luck Buggy D. Clow and Luffy combined created
Oda's foreshadowing bit is one of my fav parts about one piece, sometimes it really does feel like he planned out every step but looking at it further a younger Oda really set himself up for all of his future events whether he knew what he was doing at the time or not.
I think he had major plot points mainly figured out early, but then as we know about his character design, he would get an idea and weave it into existing characters and his world. I mean look at Lola on Thriller Bark, who knew she was Big Moms daughter when they were partying after Moria fell because at that point we'd barely heard about the Emperor's let alone seen one besides Shanks or shadows of them when mentioned. Oda is one of my favorite world builders in fiction and is up there with George Lucas, Tolkien, and others who created massive fictional worlds.
@@Dreq458 I think she was mentioned at the same time if I remember right, but they were kinda just shadows or vague sketches like what we've seen of Rocks D Xebec so far. I vaguely remember the scene being like 4 shadows, but you could kind of make them out now that we've seen them. I was more just using Lola as an example of a seemingly one off ally of the Straw Hats who we wouldn't likely hear from again, who later tied to a hige plot line, and idk if Oda had that planned or added it. I'm kinda jumping around rewatching arcs right now, if I see it when I go to Thriller Bark soon I'll let you know. And I'm still curious about that Kaido Moria fight on Wano...
He likely had a plan for certain things from the start and along the way built upon it knowing the ultimate plot layout for the end. No author ever has 100% planned from the start because idea's can change or branch out as you write. Having the main narrative planned and building onto it is what has allowed one piece to have such depth because he has never scrapped the main plan and only built on it with tons more depth as the story had gone.
@@Dreq458s someone who just watched Thriller Bark a few months back. Big Mom wasn't mentioned by name but Lola gives Nami a vivre card that will lead them to "my mom, a powerful pirate in the New World" something like that. But the name Big Mom isn't said. And even tells her and Luffy "If you ever run into any troubles, you just follow this and ask my mama to help you out okay?" Watching Thriller Bark as a fan who has knowledge of future OP events and already knows who Big Mom is, its pretty hard to miss the resemblance of Lola and Big Mom (large women with pink hair, big noses and big red lips) when I heard " powerful pirate in the new world" I looked at her and immediately thought wait...Big Mom?
I understand the tension argument, but I don't have a problem with it. Pre time skip, all of the Straw Hats barley got by in a cruel and harsh sea with the determination of their wills. Luffy was pushed to his breaking point with Crocodile and Lucci, Zoro got destroyed by Mihawk and from there every major fight was life and death, and he never got enough time after thriller bark to recover. Sanji walked away from his fight with bonclay talking about how many bones were broken, Enel was untouchable except by sheer luck that luffy eas rubber, etc. All of these build the tension. Contrast with post time skip: the crew spent 2 years doing nothing but train--this is much longer than the strawhats have traveled together. The prepared and over prepared for the new world, and it shows. They crushed everything until they were forced to face Yonko, *and they deserved those overwhelming victories.* Most of the tension comes from the collateral damage they may cause. Whats the point of being strong when everyone around you gets hurt? Honestly I'm fine with this, and now that we're post Wano, a place where they were all pushed to pre time skip limits, i expected to see a return to classic One Piece tension
Oh and did the math. (Watched the entire 14 seasons in 2 weeks). Luffy’s is knocked out, stuck, or not available to fight in almost 70% of all fights he is in. (It’s 69.7%). Luffy has been dead, stuck under water, once stuck in concrete, once spent multiple days getting over poison, or distracted by a shiny object and forgets he is in a fight.
Honestly idk why heated power scaling debates are looked down upon. We do it because it’s genuinely fun. It’s the same as debating if your favorite sports team will win their next upcoming match.
Yamato was not a good one piece character and her purpose for existence seems to only be questioned more as time goes on. She felt like a very hastily put together last minute addition to the wano arc even if that wasnt the case.
Luffy punching a Celestial Dragon to get revenge for someone explicitly begging him to _not_ punch said Celestial Dragon was a bigger mistake that should have cost him his entire crew. He just has godly plot armour.
I still get hyped and feel the tension for One Piece when I read weekly! But I'm not thinking about if the straw hats will get through something. I only think about how they will. Because Oda always flips something on its head by the end of an arc!
The Egghead arc murder mystery was very tense. It could have dragged out a chapter or two more and still have been tense. I've loved it. (I'm honestly not happy we've diverted to other parts and away from Egghead, but I understand this is information we need to build up to something big, so I'll trust that in retrospect and on re-read it'll work out fine like it always has when it comes to pacing.) ...I just want that Kuma lore drop. C'mon Oda. Give a girl her fix, man. ;.;
Luffys body collapsed due to extreme fatigue, and ace died protecting him during this moment of weakness, ace was baited by akainu, they clashed, ace got burned and then ran away, akainu baiting him didnt cause ace’s death, but luffy collapsing did
I think the reason people complain about post time skip is because it hasn't reach the highest of pre time skip yet so when you view both as one big blob of story then post time skip just feels lack luster despite them both having relatively the same quality overall.
IDK, I feel like the build up to Wano is very much an Enies Lobby moment but on a longer track. The reveals, the history and the connections finally drawn and put to rest really make it a non-stop ride for me. It may be that people need to re-read since week-to-week does make it feel less than, but it has such the same build. Man, Wholecake vs Enies Lobby is mirror. I wrote a whole theory thread but they're literally retreading the same story beats through the New World as they did in Paradise. WCI is W7/EL, Wano is Thriller Bark, we're currently at Saobody again, so shit's gonna get realllll.
@@7thlittleleopard7 NGL I've always seen Wano as the post ts Thriller bark but the idea always just sounded so ridiculous in my head. Glad to see someone have the same thought.
@@lilpenn7516 it sounds ridiculous because wano was metaphorically dark while thriller bark was literally dark😁 In all seriousness I felt like wano was a deja Vu moment but I couldn't put my finger on it, thank goodness others felt it too and put it in words
To me it's more a matter of how post time skip things have gotten so much more plot driven than anything. I mean this series was always more plot than character driven, but personally I just miss the amount of zany and endearing dynamic interactions the crew used to have in the first half of the series. Like Zoro and Nami's specific brand of tongue slashing and contrasting personalities for example is one of my favourite recurring bits of character interplay within the crew and far as I can recall they haven't even had an onscreen argument with one another since Zou.
@@jondoe7036 I feel like Zoro used to have more of a sense of humor to him, now he's just "I'm Gonna Get Strongest" generic anime guy and the one getting lost joke and I don't quite get why people like him so much lol. Not that he's even a bad character just the least interesting strawhat to me these days.
my best example of: pre time skip had no tension, is that I didn't belive in Aces death, dude got fisted by Akainu right through the chest and I was still like: nah it's One Piece no characters die in One Piece, so there is no way he actually dead, they'll probably revive him, or something
How Ace reacted was very human and normal. To think his death or his character was badly written because it was avoidable and/or he was dumb is flawed thinking. He reacted very human. People don't always make good decisions. They often make rash and emotional decisions that end up having major consequences. He (like many characters, especially the pirates) never really had a real family. He had found family. He chose who his father was and respected and loved his chosen father more than anything else in the world aside maybe his chosen brothers Luffy and Sabo. So to have someone disrespect someone he loved, respected, and idolized so much very believably ignited an anger in him that he couldn't control, causing him to make the second biggest, and final, mistake of his life.
The biggest mistake is the current anime pacing. Literally having a recap episode next week about a fight that started months ago. Most of the fight happened last week.
This is what makes Sakazuki really dangerous , that he is almost as strong as a yonko and he also this much smart to play dirty and taunt Ace into his death ☠️☠️☠️🔥🔥🔥 No other strong characters would stoop so low ,except Blackbeard 🔥🔥🔥🔥
This is one thing I really respect about Kaido is that he absolutely hates it when somebody interferes in his fights and always wants a clean battle without interference. That's why he killed Higurashi and that CP0 agent. Akainu would have taken a weak W like that pretending like he was a Chad.
@@Someaddress555s yes he definitely would and ther many more characters who also would but they are not as strong as akinu that's what makes him most terrifying
Let's be honest during the Marineford war,Blackbeard learned more than anyone why we call Whitebeard,daddy because he got a facial (quake on his face)on worldwide television.
I can never get enough of one pieces world.On the contrary,oda is adding way more details these days and every chapter has me feeling like another citizen in the world reading the newspaper on the biggest happenings of the world
The Wanted posters have been One Piece's version of "power scaling", and I've always thought that it was a good approach. It's not so much objective power levels that matter to the world so much as perceived relative strengths, as those inform the actions of players such as the World Government. For example Shirahoshi's power is terrifying and would surpass any other character by far if properly harnessed, but since it remains secret it doesn't "break the setting".
The strength of a story is in its hability to connect emotionally with the audience, and one way authors manage to do that is by relying on a good narrative structure. Japanese stories famously follow the Kishoutenketsu 起承転結 formula which consistes in 起 (introduction) 承 (development) 転 (turn) 結 (conclusion) and that's consistent from the smallest scale (a single chapter to sometimes a single page) to the bigger ones (a hole arc to the hole story). That is all to say that if One Piece was not able to administer the tension on a weekly basis producing a satisfying chapter each time, it would have been quickly cancelled (specially because Shonen Jump takes in high regard the weekly surveys readers do answering what series they liked most each time)
Thriller bark shouldve been the first post time skip arc right after fishman island, beating the shit out of a warlord that easily would make more sense then.
Regarding Thriller Bark, this is why I tell people all the time to consume each arc as a standalone anime/manga, and the next one is just the sequel. That way, you can look at each arc more standalone and appreciate it for what it is. I'm so glad to see someone else verbalized something similar.
imo the only bad thing about Thriller Bark is that is little bit too long (clarification there are parts of arc especially in middle that could be done quicker or didnt even need to be done at all)
Regarding odas foreshadowing I’m pretty sure he’s said in an sbs is that he often gets side tracked when writing and so that has the added effect of stuff getting closure much later on than he originally wanted so it kinda looks like he plans this stuff way in advance
I think pre timeskip had a more “Ok we have this big problem, how do the straw hats find a way out of this?” Vibe vs post timeskip having a “Ok what’s going to save the Strawhats this time?” Pre timeskip, with situations like Enel’s logia and observation haki, having Luffy shut off his brain and use his own devil fruit as a counter is interesting. Whereas in Wano Luffy gets knocked off and oh there’s the Heart Pirates to just fix him up
I dunno... Arlong Arc: Luffy stuck at the bottom of the pool, Gen-san keeps his head above water so he doesn't drown Loguetown: A random lightning saves Luffy's life Alabasta: Robin saves him from death after his first fight with Croc, the blop of water falls on him after he got sucked dry by Croc during second fight. Saboady: They were fucked, then Kuma came and saved them Impel Down: Luffy got rotflstomped by Magellan, luckily Iva's right-hand person came and saved him. Could probably dig up more but the gist of it is that there's always some narrative bias to save Luffy and his crew.
Since a Yonko has been defeated, powerscaling might seem like missing the point now. However Grade Swords, Sanji's chats and Koby's ambition need powerscaling.
Ace’s death was taken strait from the Back II The Future series. Calling Marty McFly a “yellow” or “chicken” or “a coward” would always bait him into a fight. You can’t change my mind.
A note about the Shakespearean characterization about Ace: character flaws and traits are the same, just reversed Ace is loyal to a fault. Loyal to his crew and hunt down an ex brother? Positive loyalty. Unable to let someone who doesn’t matter bad mouth your father figure and letting said loyalty keep you from escaping? Negative loyalty. It’s not bad writing or out of nowhere. It’s just showing his character fault.
Big mom was leagues ahead of Kaido as both a villain and a character. Her presence in wano caused him to be overshadowed in the arc he was supposed to be the big bad in. He felt like a wall in luffys way and she was a actual well developed villain because of the whole cake arc. None of the beast pirates except queen had any depth at all. jack had zou and that was it. King fought zoro and that was all. The flying six showed up at onigashima had a random battle and lost and that was it. only page one and Drake were seen before the raid. And Hawkins. But at least with the flying six you have the they are minions excuse. Doffys guys didnt get a lot of spotlight in Dressrosa. But when its kaido that excuse dont fly. Doffys group felt more menacing overall aside from King and queen were just made to be stronger because of powers. But i really think that big mom being in wano took away from Kaido. The depth that doffy and Big mom had in back to back arcs just wasnt there with him. Big mom and orochi both overshadowed him. Orochi for being a piece of garbage. And big mom a all around better villain and character. And from like the mid way of wano the arc started feeling like the plot got lost somewhere along the way. I think oda tried so hard to make the arc epic that it ended up actually hurting the overall flow of it in the long run while its not bad. It wasnt as good as Dressrosa and whole cake overall because Kaido was a disappointment as was he and kings weak one or two page flashback. it felt overly rushed and empty compared to Doffy and big mom in comparison.
I feel like Oda hasn’t given franky a solid MVP moment since dressrosa when he wanted to help the tontas and his senior pink fight. Granted he wasn’t in whole cake but throughout wano, he was really meh including his fight with sasaki. I feel like egghead could’ve given him the much needed upgrade he needed before the whole sci fi horror fiasco.
I think the manga moves quite fast right now the only moment when i really felt that the story just stopped moving foreward was when i was still watching the anime weekly because that was the time where queen was spreading this ice oni plague and it felt like they moved 3cm foreward every episode and not a single bit more
Yeah same thing happened with me i loved the pacing and hype when reading 10+ chapters at a time but mow 1 chapter per week amd now oda is on sugery its been weeks
I wonder what type of person big mom would have been if she got therapy for her emotionally stunned growth. Would she still be as evil as she is in canon or would she be more caring like whitebeard?
Thriller Bark is a fantastic arc, what are people smoking when they didn't like the arc? It had so much good in it. It was a fun adventure on a spooky island. It is, and will always be, one of my favorite arcs. "It doesn't feel One Piece" ??? What are people talking about!? I am so confused with the minds of the fan base. You guys make no sense.
Skypie and Thriller Bark are for me one of the most adventureous arcs in One Piece and I love them for it Also big fan of horror so Thriller Bark was even more fun ride because of it
7:30 that's exactly the reason why i think the Strawhats shouldn't get any more new members or at least as few as possible. correct me if my memory is deceiving me, but that's the one thing Dragon Ball used to have over other animes, always just 1 fight happening at a time, Goku vs Frieza, Piccolo, Buu, Cell and so on.
i think its better for oda to keep up the high pacing as it gives the anime more content to explore upon like oda can do a fight off screen and anime can show it its a win win.
I see that most of the complaint about One Piece moving too fast usually always being pinpoint at the end of Wano. Which I'm not denying. But Egghead so far is very much moderately pace. And yet people are still lingering on the complaints but cannot find any reason nor example that can be shown through Egghead. Just because Oda make one small hiccups, they already exaggerated it, assumed and concluded that the whole series will be like this moving forward. They use that one hiccup to justify their hate over post timeskip One Piece. It's Dressrossa all over again but with opposite reasonings. People complaint that Dressrossa was too long and too slow, then use it to justify how post-timeskip has dropped in quality and is worse than pre-timeskip. Than they use the exact same complaint but completely opposite reasoning with Wano. In Wano's case, they argued that Oda just want to be done with One PIece and is rushing the story to the end. In Dressrossa's case, they argued Oda is milking and just want to drag things out. The arguments are so inconsistent. Especially considering pre-timeskip One Piece have inconsistent pacing with some island we spend a very short time while others we spend significantly longer time. But somehow pre-timeskip is perfect stories that can almost do no wrong.
having a week long break between chapters is the thing that creates the tension, being able to read the series in one go makes it all smooth out without any tension, but thats just my experience
The difference between pre timeskip and post timeskip is the hype;its like everything is for hype and not to make the characters better and enhance the story
I agree with the last part of feeling like some characters get blown off. Like we are currently on egghead island, with Vegapunk, in his laboratory. And the spotlight should be on Franky. But instead he hasn’t wowed us or done anything interesting yet. Like I thought this would be Frankys time to shine and get development, but instead it feels like he got a fan boy moment and now we can move on. It’s just disappointing. Granted I’m a huge Franky Fan.
I think i feel u (around 3:20), but i think a good number of us avoid chasing it (theorycrafting etc) between releases because its healthier for immersion! Active immersion preservation! Though, i watch your vids so im a bit of a hypocrite. But, i trust nothing on the internet, thus, immersion is preserved.
I believe that the One Piece is actually Luffy’s Nika fruit, which gives him the power of laughter. The proof is in Shanks and his crew, who couldn’t stop laughing until Luffy ate the fruit. Roger must have discovered the same fruit on Laugh Tale, the island of joy, and that’s why he and his crew laughed so hard. The fruit was the source of their laughter, and Luffy inherited it. That also explains the X mark on his chest, which is a symbol of the fruit.
4:38 doing some unpopular opinions about those "worst arcs" Long ring long land>loguetown Thriller bark>little garden Syrup village>baratie Drum island>jaya Let the war begin
I for one absolutely love the fights and how they are somewhat predictable. If you pay attention to specific attacks you can see how it changes based on their growth. I enjoy small things like that too.
To enjoy the rollercoaster I tend to read the manga every other month So I have a few chapters to go through each time Just like now, I’m finally trying to catch up on your video’s because I haven’t watched your channel since the end of Wano. So much fun and helps to put the whole egghead and stuff in between into perspective. (And there are a lot of videos, Yaay)
The fact that Gol D Roger was his dad and Ace's life was a living hell because of it. Edward Newgate was the father he wanted. I get Ace's actions.
And in the end, blood ended up proving true because he acted just like his bio dad would have, but also... just like his actual dad did. It's such a tragic and painful character moment because once you read the ace, luffy and sabo history, you see that he's always been that way. Then it connects back to Alabasta and being unable to leave until he was sure Luffy was safely away from Smoker and his obstinancy in protecting the Spade pirates when being recruited by Whitebeard... ugh, heart. ;.;
@@7thlittleleopard7 no it's tragic because he was chained to his past and couldn't let go of the hate he felt for himself and his legacy. The point is he wasn't Roger and that's why he died because he wasn't his father.
@@bman1742 true
Yeah no he was right but uh......AFTER marine ford preferably
@@bman1742 nah, he died acting the way his father would have.
I believe that choosing Duty over Family has left Garp a broken man. Sengoku knowing Garp's state of mind knew the whole time that Garp could end up turning on them which is why he kept looking at Garp and questioning him during the war. Garp betraying Marine would give * "EMOTIONAL DAMAGE" to all Marines. For Garp is the "Hero of the Marines". It'd cause chaos to those who idolize him as his "HERO". What even is Justice, if Garp saved Ace, A criminal, Big threat, to the World Government?
Justice is subjective, that's why every admiral has their own brand of it. If Garp had his way and ripped Akainu apart, it would have been "Familial Justice" or something (insert Fast and Furious meme here)
I still wanna see Garp trounce Akainu, ngl.
I've always loved Thriller Barque no matter what anyone says. I don't even dislike Gecko Moria.
@@etinarcadiaego7424 yes thriller bark was good but it was surrounded by two great arcs I wish it could have been spaced out a little better so it gets more shine.
If garp wouldve betrayed them, I wonder if aokiji would've?
😂read it in steven he voice emotional damage
Whitebeard was indeed the strongest man in one piece world.... Dude grew a moustache and called it a beard... No one said a peep..😶😶
No hate, love the joke. But in Japanese, his name is basically White Mustache. However, that doesn't sound nearly as good in English. So translators changed it in the subtitles and the dub to say White Beard.
Nothing to add.
Good one mate
That's because hige is used for beard as a mustache in Japanese
Yes, just yes
@The_S0nneteer interesting
I think the reason why Kiado was blown past is due to how much of his back story is tied to The Rocks pirates. There’s going to be some backstory about them, and oda didn’t want to give too much away. It’ll probably be right after egg head or during.
Nah bro
Agreed
Very plausible
I don't agree big bom was in rocks pirate before kaido yet he was able to show bigmom butt not kaido
@@gojumjilen1396 I'd say its because Kaido's backstory is linked to Joy Boy and Oda didn't want show that yet.
If katakuri had been at Marineford, would he have tried to eat an ace flavored donut?
Probably lol but random, I like to think Luffy got his strategy of "run and come back later" he used against Kat, by learning from Ace's screw up
Ohh no
can he handle the heat?
That's why Sengoku had to hold down Garp, the donut was just too appealing
this was a comment he brought up in a video multiple years ago m8
In my opinion I think Ace's death was beautiful because of what shanks said. He said Roger would have done the same thing for his crew but just that Ace was not strong enough. Some may think it is a dumb way to die but to me its beautiful how much ace loves and respects his crew.
He did the opposite to what Pops ordered
Even though I don't like how Ace died, genuinely think less of him for it, and think he was an idiot because of it, I don't think it's bad writing. It feels pretty in character for him given how much he clearly cared for his family. Especially because of the irony that Whitebeard loving Ace like a son and him loving WB as a father in return is ultimately a LARGE part of what got him killed.
But if Ace deserved to die for getting carried with his emotions then Luffy & every Strawhat should have died at multiple moments too
@@SlashinatorZ I never said Ace deserved to die. I said the way he died fits his character, because he's both stubborn and overly defensive when it comes to family. So while I think he's an idiot for doing it and I actually like him less for it, it isn't bad writing like a lot of people have claimed. And that's because Ace starting a fight because he loves his family falls in line with his established pattern of behavior.
@@MoostachedSaiyanPrince well I think Squard should have died in his place.
@@SlashinatorZ ace's death was meant to be an emotional moment for the viewers and push luffy to get stronger. Squard dying would provide nothing to the story. The narrative always come first,
i agree that it fits his character, especially after reading the ace novels. I dont think less of him for it. He loved Whitebeard and that love and ambition was something he risked dying for. truly heartbreaking and dumb choice but I could see any of the straw hats having a similar moment.
I actually like how Ace died, it is just so realistic and makes sense for his character and it also makes it more tragic because it could have been avoided.
I mean how many people die in real life because they did some stupid shit or they made poor decision?
I mean how many people in life have been goaded into a fight because someone else calls your loved one something you just can't let go? It was something most of us can relate to, but we didn't have to have a lava fist go through us in response.
Realistically Luffy should have died a dozen times before this
@@SlashinatorZ realistically he dies in the whirlpool before he even gets on a ship. Tbh...
@@Someaddress555sTrue but to be fair, if I was Luffy and you were Ace, and you got yourself murdered after we tried our best to free you, I'll be sad but I'll also call you dumb as heck.
@@blacksmoke6292 where did I claim it wasn't a dumb emotional response? He was 20 when he died, and I'd expect a 20 year old to be easier to manipulate emotionally like that than someone in their 30s or older.
I do understand why people feel like One Piece is going too slow especially if you're reading week-to-week.
But honestly... I'm always amazed on how much Oda manage to cram up so much informations in so few pages, especially in the recent chapters.
Please, go back and read the last 10 chapters or so, and you might realize how fast everything is moving in the story.
You can say that again. I mean, people rave about Chainsaw Man, but reading it weekly is the same thing as browsing over a leaflet regarding how much content there is in each chapter
1084 was fire!! and 1085 is going to drop some bombs! xD
Now it is, after 20 years of turtle speed. I’d like to see the ending before I die.
"What changed post-timeskip?": I think I'd say the story become less character-driven and became more plot-driven. We basically stopped getting new crewmates post-timeskip, so the focus was less on the characters and more on world-building. Pre-timeskip, each arc was basically driven by solving a problem for someone we got to know and care about over the course of the story. Post-timeskip, each arc is more about filling us in on the politics of the world and how everything connects together. Wholecake was kind of a exception, since we got to learn a lot more about Sanji, and I think it was a stronger arc for that. Post-timeskip, a lot more of the mysteries of the world came into focus.
I think this is partially why everyone keeps expecting different characters to join the Strawhats, like Carrot and Yamato. We've been trained to think that every character we care about WILL join the Strawhats, because that's how the story worked Pre-timeskip.
And it's no secret the other Strawhats, other than Luffy, just haven't gotten as much time to shine, Post-timeskip. They're almost background characters in the manga. We really haven't gotten as many heartfelt or emotional moments with them as we did Pre-timeskip. But, that's because they're NOT the focus, the world-building and politics and mysteries are.
There's also the smaller power issue. Pre-timeskip, the Strawhats were basically the scrappy underdogs, having to try to be clever to get around the problems they came up against. Post-timeskip, they're all a lot stronger and more capable, which makes grunts and smaller enemies a non-issue. Pre-timeskip, there's NO WAY Usopp could handle a dozen grunts, but he can one-shot the group of them now. It changes how the fights work. There's also a bit of inconsistency, since characters like Nami and Usopp feel like they can vary in strength almost from scene to scene.
There's also the panelling. Over the years Oda has just crammed more and more detail and panels into the page-space. Compare a page from the manga from the beginning to today. Where before, he might have a few pages that only had 3 larger panels on a page, nowadays almost every page is 6 or more panels PACKED with detail. It's impressive...but it can also feel a little claustrophic. It's all just a bit much, and it kind of messes with the flow a bit. And I think it's kind of hurt the appeal of Gear 5 a bit for me. It's a over-the-top cartoony form that FEELS like it should be breaking page-borders and be huge...but it's kind of constrained by the smaller, more numerous panels.
Each arc has also gotten MUCH longer Post-timeskip. Where before we had a few smaller arcs, Post-timeskip has been made up almost exclusively of longer arcs. Maybe this is part of the world-building and how each arc feeds into one another, but it changes how the pacing works, too. Wano was the biggest offender by far. Wano was long. Maybe too long. But, like Skypeia, I'll bet there's a reason why we spent so long there.
It is still character driven , but the strawhats aren’t the focus anymore
4:38 I think thriller bark getting hated is a bit from a meme of people asking about thriller bark and the only response being "Nothing happened"..... the meme killed the hype for the arc lol
But the apperance of kuma is something else
@@toucheyes9248 exactly. I think because of the nothing happened moment. It led to a misunderstanding that nothing happened in thriller bark for people who haven't seen the show
10:24 for the most part this is accurate. Shonen movies tend to re-introduce the main characters in some fashion or another. The recent Spider-Man skipped the Uncle Ben plot point. We’ve all know in some fashion or another
Big Mom was terrifyingly brutal, the way she can change on a dime from a emperor to a child then murderous mindless child with strength and power beyond anyone else.
Oda's real superpower is the same as you want from a great GM imrpovising and connecting stories together.
There will never be a time when EVERYONE who reads/watches any piece of media will all be happy about it. There will be things one group loves while the other hates it.
As for new members to the crew, almost every arc has had that one or two pseudo members that will be kinda apart of the crew for that time. They won’t always fully join the crew but they’ll basically be an honorary member. While not official, Yamato and Carrot are Straw Hats, much like Vivi is basically apart of the crew
Each crew member has their reasons for being on the crew. Vivi, for instance, is but has duties elsewhere so she can’t SAIL with the main body. One day, at the end of One Piece, the Straw Hats will have a MASSIVE party involving everyone they’ve made friends with and it will be the biggest event in history.
P.S. I bet that’s how it’s gonna end.
Carrot got done dirty. Didn't even get a goodbye panel like Yamato did.
Every one was happy with the recent kamusari that happened
I agree with the you on the tension argument. I had to stop reading Dressrosa twice because I felt a slog. I thought I didn’t like one piece anymore, but I took a break and now I’m back reading weekly.
I love kaido backstory. He is a boy soldier that survive everything, he was supposed to die on the first day but he became the strongest beast and that's why he only respect power and expect other people to be powerful or be dominated. Hope that is expand in the anime
Ace dying over a "Your daddy is a coward" joke is literally something Oda pulled out of his ass for Luffy's character development that's it
Fun reminder: During the Impel Down escape, there were three Yonko in the prison at the same time. That prison had zero chance to survive them.
That and the monstrous dumb luck Buggy D. Clow and Luffy combined created
Oda's foreshadowing bit is one of my fav parts about one piece, sometimes it really does feel like he planned out every step but looking at it further a younger Oda really set himself up for all of his future events whether he knew what he was doing at the time or not.
I think he had major plot points mainly figured out early, but then as we know about his character design, he would get an idea and weave it into existing characters and his world. I mean look at Lola on Thriller Bark, who knew she was Big Moms daughter when they were partying after Moria fell because at that point we'd barely heard about the Emperor's let alone seen one besides Shanks or shadows of them when mentioned. Oda is one of my favorite world builders in fiction and is up there with George Lucas, Tolkien, and others who created massive fictional worlds.
@@Someaddress555s I can't even remember if Big Mom was name dropped by that time. I know that Moria was the first to name drop Kaido.
@@Dreq458 I think she was mentioned at the same time if I remember right, but they were kinda just shadows or vague sketches like what we've seen of Rocks D Xebec so far. I vaguely remember the scene being like 4 shadows, but you could kind of make them out now that we've seen them. I was more just using Lola as an example of a seemingly one off ally of the Straw Hats who we wouldn't likely hear from again, who later tied to a hige plot line, and idk if Oda had that planned or added it.
I'm kinda jumping around rewatching arcs right now, if I see it when I go to Thriller Bark soon I'll let you know.
And I'm still curious about that Kaido Moria fight on Wano...
He likely had a plan for certain things from the start and along the way built upon it knowing the ultimate plot layout for the end. No author ever has 100% planned from the start because idea's can change or branch out as you write. Having the main narrative planned and building onto it is what has allowed one piece to have such depth because he has never scrapped the main plan and only built on it with tons more depth as the story had gone.
@@Dreq458s someone who just watched Thriller Bark a few months back. Big Mom wasn't mentioned by name but Lola gives Nami a vivre card that will lead them to "my mom, a powerful pirate in the New World" something like that. But the name Big Mom isn't said. And even tells her and Luffy "If you ever run into any troubles, you just follow this and ask my mama to help you out okay?" Watching Thriller Bark as a fan who has knowledge of future OP events and already knows who Big Mom is, its pretty hard to miss the resemblance of Lola and Big Mom (large women with pink hair, big noses and big red lips) when I heard " powerful pirate in the new world" I looked at her and immediately thought wait...Big Mom?
I understand the tension argument, but I don't have a problem with it.
Pre time skip, all of the Straw Hats barley got by in a cruel and harsh sea with the determination of their wills. Luffy was pushed to his breaking point with Crocodile and Lucci, Zoro got destroyed by Mihawk and from there every major fight was life and death, and he never got enough time after thriller bark to recover. Sanji walked away from his fight with bonclay talking about how many bones were broken, Enel was untouchable except by sheer luck that luffy eas rubber, etc. All of these build the tension.
Contrast with post time skip: the crew spent 2 years doing nothing but train--this is much longer than the strawhats have traveled together. The prepared and over prepared for the new world, and it shows. They crushed everything until they were forced to face Yonko, *and they deserved those overwhelming victories.* Most of the tension comes from the collateral damage they may cause. Whats the point of being strong when everyone around you gets hurt?
Honestly I'm fine with this, and now that we're post Wano, a place where they were all pushed to pre time skip limits, i expected to see a return to classic One Piece tension
Oh and did the math. (Watched the entire 14 seasons in 2 weeks). Luffy’s is knocked out, stuck, or not available to fight in almost 70% of all fights he is in. (It’s 69.7%).
Luffy has been dead, stuck under water, once stuck in concrete, once spent multiple days getting over poison, or distracted by a shiny object and forgets he is in a fight.
Honestly idk why heated power scaling debates are looked down upon. We do it because it’s genuinely fun. It’s the same as debating if your favorite sports team will win their next upcoming match.
Yamato was not a good one piece character and her purpose for existence seems to only be questioned more as time goes on. She felt like a very hastily put together last minute addition to the wano arc even if that wasnt the case.
Impresses me how much degenerate people misunderstand or overlook Ace's entire character
Luffy punching a Celestial Dragon to get revenge for someone explicitly begging him to _not_ punch said Celestial Dragon was a bigger mistake that should have cost him his entire crew.
He just has godly plot armour.
Ace died to an obivous trap he willingly jumped into. His death is a tragedy precisely because of how avoidable it was.
I still get hyped and feel the tension for One Piece when I read weekly! But I'm not thinking about if the straw hats will get through something. I only think about how they will. Because Oda always flips something on its head by the end of an arc!
The Egghead arc murder mystery was very tense. It could have dragged out a chapter or two more and still have been tense. I've loved it. (I'm honestly not happy we've diverted to other parts and away from Egghead, but I understand this is information we need to build up to something big, so I'll trust that in retrospect and on re-read it'll work out fine like it always has when it comes to pacing.)
...I just want that Kuma lore drop. C'mon Oda. Give a girl her fix, man. ;.;
@@7thlittleleopard7 he’s dangling it in front of us like a carrot… come Oda, you’ve built this up for years, give it to us!
@@omegashark1837 we all know how the CARROT ended🐰
@@omegashark1837 but the delayed gratification with finally seeing Garp or Shanks go off was so good I'm OK with being patient.
I agree, with the idea that One Piece is never a story of meritocracy, but a story of nepotism.
Explaining Ace's demise as a Shakespearean tragedy is a connection I wish I made myself. Thank you, Liam, fellow thespian.
I also love that image of the Renaissance painting and it looks like Shakespeare is copying the work of Oda
If a flaming lava man insult my dad i would just silently nod and run away
6:32 wait hold on wtf why is Woop Slap above Rob Lucci and Garp are you kidding me
Luffys body collapsed due to extreme fatigue, and ace died protecting him during this moment of weakness, ace was baited by akainu, they clashed, ace got burned and then ran away, akainu baiting him didnt cause ace’s death, but luffy collapsing did
The best parts of one piece are the ends and beginnings of arcs because that's where Oda sets up all the great moments .
I think the reason people complain about post time skip is because it hasn't reach the highest of pre time skip yet so when you view both as one big blob of story then post time skip just feels lack luster despite them both having relatively the same quality overall.
IDK, I feel like the build up to Wano is very much an Enies Lobby moment but on a longer track. The reveals, the history and the connections finally drawn and put to rest really make it a non-stop ride for me. It may be that people need to re-read since week-to-week does make it feel less than, but it has such the same build. Man, Wholecake vs Enies Lobby is mirror.
I wrote a whole theory thread but they're literally retreading the same story beats through the New World as they did in Paradise. WCI is W7/EL, Wano is Thriller Bark, we're currently at Saobody again, so shit's gonna get realllll.
@@7thlittleleopard7 NGL I've always seen Wano as the post ts Thriller bark but the idea always just sounded so ridiculous in my head. Glad to see someone have the same thought.
@@lilpenn7516 it sounds ridiculous because wano was metaphorically dark while thriller bark was literally dark😁
In all seriousness I felt like wano was a deja Vu moment but I couldn't put my finger on it, thank goodness others felt it too and put it in words
To me it's more a matter of how post time skip things have gotten so much more plot driven than anything. I mean this series was always more plot than character driven, but personally I just miss the amount of zany and endearing dynamic interactions the crew used to have in the first half of the series.
Like Zoro and Nami's specific brand of tongue slashing and contrasting personalities for example is one of my favourite recurring bits of character interplay within the crew and far as I can recall they haven't even had an onscreen argument with one another since Zou.
@@jondoe7036 I feel like Zoro used to have more of a sense of humor to him, now he's just "I'm Gonna Get Strongest" generic anime guy and the one getting lost joke and I don't quite get why people like him so much lol. Not that he's even a bad character just the least interesting strawhat to me these days.
my best example of: pre time skip had no tension, is that I didn't belive in Aces death, dude got fisted by Akainu right through the chest and I was still like: nah it's One Piece no characters die in One Piece, so there is no way he actually dead, they'll probably revive him, or something
How Ace reacted was very human and normal. To think his death or his character was badly written because it was avoidable and/or he was dumb is flawed thinking. He reacted very human. People don't always make good decisions. They often make rash and emotional decisions that end up having major consequences. He (like many characters, especially the pirates) never really had a real family. He had found family. He chose who his father was and respected and loved his chosen father more than anything else in the world aside maybe his chosen brothers Luffy and Sabo. So to have someone disrespect someone he loved, respected, and idolized so much very believably ignited an anger in him that he couldn't control, causing him to make the second biggest, and final, mistake of his life.
Exactly and on top of that, the way it happened makes it so much tragic
I still miss him deeply =(
The biggest mistake is the current anime pacing. Literally having a recap episode next week about a fight that started months ago. Most of the fight happened last week.
This is what makes Sakazuki really dangerous , that he is almost as strong as a yonko and he also this much smart to play dirty and taunt Ace into his death ☠️☠️☠️🔥🔥🔥
No other strong characters would stoop so low ,except Blackbeard 🔥🔥🔥🔥
This is one thing I really respect about Kaido is that he absolutely hates it when somebody interferes in his fights and always wants a clean battle without interference. That's why he killed Higurashi and that CP0 agent. Akainu would have taken a weak W like that pretending like he was a Chad.
@@retrogamermax8287 exactly 💯, he played dirty and made whitebeard's subordinate attack him no other So strong character would do this in one peice .
I feel like Doflamingo would stoop that low, he wants to mess with your head so you're not on your game.
@AW I believe he would because Doflamingo is a natural Celestial Dragon in nature.
@@Someaddress555s yes he definitely would and ther many more characters who also would but they are not as strong as akinu that's what makes him most terrifying
Let's be honest during the Marineford war,Blackbeard learned more than anyone why we call Whitebeard,daddy because he got a facial (quake on his face)on worldwide television.
I can never get enough of one pieces world.On the contrary,oda is adding way more details these days and every chapter has me feeling like another citizen in the world reading the newspaper on the biggest happenings of the world
Thriller Bark can't be the worst arc when Long Ring Long Land and Syrup Village exist.
Someone saying that about Ace's death is such a breath of fresh air!
Just picture katakuri eating Ace infront of Luffy while Akainu is sitting on a chair and has this own certified navy bench with donuts on it
OH MY GOD!!! 😂😂
Calling Ace's corpse a donut is the funniest thing I have heard in my life. I really mean that.
The Wanted posters have been One Piece's version of "power scaling", and I've always thought that it was a good approach. It's not so much objective power levels that matter to the world so much as perceived relative strengths, as those inform the actions of players such as the World Government.
For example Shirahoshi's power is terrifying and would surpass any other character by far if properly harnessed, but since it remains secret it doesn't "break the setting".
The strength of a story is in its hability to connect emotionally with the audience, and one way authors manage to do that is by relying on a good narrative structure. Japanese stories famously follow the Kishoutenketsu 起承転結 formula which consistes in 起 (introduction) 承 (development) 転 (turn) 結 (conclusion) and that's consistent from the smallest scale (a single chapter to sometimes a single page) to the bigger ones (a hole arc to the hole story).
That is all to say that if One Piece was not able to administer the tension on a weekly basis producing a satisfying chapter each time, it would have been quickly cancelled (specially because Shonen Jump takes in high regard the weekly surveys readers do answering what series they liked most each time)
Thriller bark shouldve been the first post time skip arc right after fishman island, beating the shit out of a warlord that easily would make more sense then.
Heres my opinion: Oda LOVES cliffhangers. If every possible ending to anything ends up a cliffhanger, then anything is possible!
I felt that pacing issue with Whole Cake island. Felt way too long. To find out it was 1 night and the wedding was the next day
Regarding Thriller Bark, this is why I tell people all the time to consume each arc as a standalone anime/manga, and the next one is just the sequel. That way, you can look at each arc more standalone and appreciate it for what it is. I'm so glad to see someone else verbalized something similar.
imo the only bad thing about Thriller Bark is that is little bit too long (clarification there are parts of arc especially in middle that could be done quicker or didnt even need to be done at all)
Regarding odas foreshadowing I’m pretty sure he’s said in an sbs is that he often gets side tracked when writing and so that has the added effect of stuff getting closure much later on than he originally wanted so it kinda looks like he plans this stuff way in advance
I think pre timeskip had a more “Ok we have this big problem, how do the straw hats find a way out of this?” Vibe vs post timeskip having a “Ok what’s going to save the Strawhats this time?” Pre timeskip, with situations like Enel’s logia and observation haki, having Luffy shut off his brain and use his own devil fruit as a counter is interesting. Whereas in Wano Luffy gets knocked off and oh there’s the Heart Pirates to just fix him up
I dunno...
Arlong Arc: Luffy stuck at the bottom of the pool, Gen-san keeps his head above water so he doesn't drown
Loguetown: A random lightning saves Luffy's life
Alabasta: Robin saves him from death after his first fight with Croc, the blop of water falls on him after he got sucked dry by Croc during second fight.
Saboady: They were fucked, then Kuma came and saved them
Impel Down: Luffy got rotflstomped by Magellan, luckily Iva's right-hand person came and saved him.
Could probably dig up more but the gist of it is that there's always some narrative bias to save Luffy and his crew.
If the Straw Hat is Luffy's treasure, maybe by some turn of events, he leaves it on Laugh Tale for the next era.
Since a Yonko has been defeated, powerscaling might seem like missing the point now. However Grade Swords, Sanji's chats and Koby's ambition need powerscaling.
Ace’s death was taken strait from the Back II The Future series. Calling Marty McFly a “yellow” or “chicken” or “a coward” would always bait him into a fight. You can’t change my mind.
Big Moms appreciation, lets go!
A note about the Shakespearean characterization about Ace: character flaws and traits are the same, just reversed Ace is loyal to a fault. Loyal to his crew and hunt down an ex brother? Positive loyalty. Unable to let someone who doesn’t matter bad mouth your father figure and letting said loyalty keep you from escaping? Negative loyalty. It’s not bad writing or out of nowhere. It’s just showing his character fault.
If Moria get luffys shadow right now and puts it in Oars. Moria will have a sun god Oars and would be the strongest captain
One Piece is the only manga that has gotten this far meanwhile Goku achieving his 10th form still not near the final saga
Big mom was leagues ahead of Kaido as both a villain and a character. Her presence in wano caused him to be overshadowed in the arc he was supposed to be the big bad in. He felt like a wall in luffys way and she was a actual well developed villain because of the whole cake arc. None of the beast pirates except queen had any depth at all. jack had zou and that was it. King fought zoro and that was all. The flying six showed up at onigashima had a random battle and lost and that was it. only page one and Drake were seen before the raid. And Hawkins. But at least with the flying six you have the they are minions excuse. Doffys guys didnt get a lot of spotlight in Dressrosa. But when its kaido that excuse dont fly. Doffys group felt more menacing overall aside from King and queen were just made to be stronger because of powers. But i really think that big mom being in wano took away from Kaido. The depth that doffy and Big mom had in back to back arcs just wasnt there with him. Big mom and orochi both overshadowed him. Orochi for being a piece of garbage. And big mom a all around better villain and character. And from like the mid way of wano the arc started feeling like the plot got lost somewhere along the way. I think oda tried so hard to make the arc epic that it ended up actually hurting the overall flow of it in the long run while its not bad. It wasnt as good as Dressrosa and whole cake overall because Kaido was a disappointment as was he and kings weak one or two page flashback. it felt overly rushed and empty compared to Doffy and big mom in comparison.
7:41 my GOODNESS that is some spicy Robin art !!
Also I think we need somebody to power scale the straw hats through the entire series and then after that redo the true bounty series
I feel like Oda hasn’t given franky a solid MVP moment since dressrosa when he wanted to help the tontas and his senior pink fight. Granted he wasn’t in whole cake but throughout wano, he was really meh including his fight with sasaki. I feel like egghead could’ve given him the much needed upgrade he needed before the whole sci fi horror fiasco.
I see he’s got a new beat up shanks drawing wonder what he’s saving that for👀 10:19
Sanji beating queen was hype
I think the manga moves quite fast right now
the only moment when i really felt that the story just stopped moving foreward was when i was still watching the anime weekly because that was the time where queen was spreading this ice oni plague and it felt like they moved 3cm foreward every episode and not a single bit more
I don't think that Moira had a chance at being an emperor but blackbeard has not been confirmed to be from rocks or Roger
Yeah same thing happened with me i loved the pacing and hype when reading 10+ chapters at a time but mow 1 chapter per week amd now oda is on sugery its been weeks
8:05 “it’s…” *ad break* “ARBY’S ROAST BEEF”
I wonder what type of person big mom would have been if she got therapy for her emotionally stunned growth. Would she still be as evil as she is in canon or would she be more caring like whitebeard?
I didn't know people didn't like Thriller Bark. That is straight up my favorite arc 😢
3:24 - I like to call this "backlighting". Since it's the opposite of foreshadowing.
Thriller Bark is a fantastic arc, what are people smoking when they didn't like the arc? It had so much good in it. It was a fun adventure on a spooky island. It is, and will always be, one of my favorite arcs. "It doesn't feel One Piece" ??? What are people talking about!? I am so confused with the minds of the fan base. You guys make no sense.
Skypie and Thriller Bark are for me one of the most adventureous arcs in One Piece and I love them for it
Also big fan of horror so Thriller Bark was even more fun ride because of it
@@Nagadirchan Yea, exactly, they are just really fun arcs.
I like scooby doo, so I like thriller bark
Everything in the story is amazing it is just that our expectations have grown far to high
That's the problem with the one piece being real, real question is: can we get much higher?
@samurai tadpole W
Can we get much higher?
@@A_Random_Person3150kizaru?
I’d rather have oda move quickly now in the series before he ends up like tagashi, who’s gonna leave HxH unfinished before he dies.
Wait what? Tagashi make not live to finish Hunter X Hunter? How bad is his health?
@@retrogamermax8287 he has a really bad back rn, and releases ten chapters every 4 years. Plus he’s getting to that age where he may pass soon.
"You know the FDA calls us McDonald's now."
"Isn't that your company name?"
"No. It's Mc D. Onald's."
7:30 that's exactly the reason why i think the Strawhats shouldn't get any more new members or at least as few as possible.
correct me if my memory is deceiving me, but that's the one thing Dragon Ball used to have over other animes, always just 1 fight happening at a time, Goku vs Frieza, Piccolo, Buu, Cell and so on.
I also hope on the next anniversary of one piece they announce a series about gold d roger adventures so we can see the journey of roger
7:25 getting illustrators was the best thing to happen to this channel.
thriller bark was awesome. brooke's backstory, the change in scenery, the comedy, and really just everything about it besides gecko moria.
Everyone: Yes were almost home free!!!
Lava man: your dad is garbage.
Ace: What you say about my dad???
Everyone: oh no....
i think its better for oda to keep up the high pacing as it gives the anime more content to explore upon like oda can do a fight off screen and anime can show it its a win win.
I see that most of the complaint about One Piece moving too fast usually always being pinpoint at the end of Wano. Which I'm not denying. But Egghead so far is very much moderately pace. And yet people are still lingering on the complaints but cannot find any reason nor example that can be shown through Egghead. Just because Oda make one small hiccups, they already exaggerated it, assumed and concluded that the whole series will be like this moving forward. They use that one hiccup to justify their hate over post timeskip One Piece.
It's Dressrossa all over again but with opposite reasonings. People complaint that Dressrossa was too long and too slow, then use it to justify how post-timeskip has dropped in quality and is worse than pre-timeskip. Than they use the exact same complaint but completely opposite reasoning with Wano. In Wano's case, they argued that Oda just want to be done with One PIece and is rushing the story to the end. In Dressrossa's case, they argued Oda is milking and just want to drag things out. The arguments are so inconsistent. Especially considering pre-timeskip One Piece have inconsistent pacing with some island we spend a very short time while others we spend significantly longer time. But somehow pre-timeskip is perfect stories that can almost do no wrong.
having a week long break between chapters is the thing that creates the tension, being able to read the series in one go makes it all smooth out without any tension, but thats just my experience
Spot on. Fights are less interesting to me on a weekly basis. I just want more of the story! 😭
The difference between pre timeskip and post timeskip is the hype;its like everything is for hype and not to make the characters better and enhance the story
I agree with the last part of feeling like some characters get blown off. Like we are currently on egghead island, with Vegapunk, in his laboratory. And the spotlight should be on Franky. But instead he hasn’t wowed us or done anything interesting yet. Like I thought this would be Frankys time to shine and get development, but instead it feels like he got a fan boy moment and now we can move on. It’s just disappointing. Granted I’m a huge Franky Fan.
I think i feel u (around 3:20), but i think a good number of us avoid chasing it (theorycrafting etc) between releases because its healthier for immersion! Active immersion preservation!
Though, i watch your vids so im a bit of a hypocrite.
But, i trust nothing on the internet, thus, immersion is preserved.
Can we talk about how fucking good todays ep was
The fact that everybody sacrificed so much just to save Ace and he basically just threw it away over a dad joke hurts me to this day.
I believe that the One Piece is actually Luffy’s Nika fruit, which gives him the power of laughter. The proof is in Shanks and his crew, who couldn’t stop laughing until Luffy ate the fruit. Roger must have discovered the same fruit on Laugh Tale, the island of joy, and that’s why he and his crew laughed so hard. The fruit was the source of their laughter, and Luffy inherited it. That also explains the X mark on his chest, which is a symbol of the fruit.
4:38 doing some unpopular opinions about those "worst arcs"
Long ring long land>loguetown
Thriller bark>little garden
Syrup village>baratie
Drum island>jaya
Let the war begin
8:05 Aperture Turret, C3p0, R2D2, Bearded nostalgia critic? Oda, Bender. And Red Among us Crewmate.
"Luffy got a donut" almost made me piss my pants l😂😂😂😂
Mihawk isn’t a part of either famous families
Buggy forever failing upwards is my favorite one piece concept.
I for one absolutely love the fights and how they are somewhat predictable. If you pay attention to specific attacks you can see how it changes based on their growth. I enjoy small things like that too.
To enjoy the rollercoaster I tend to read the manga every other month
So I have a few chapters to go through each time
Just like now, I’m finally trying to catch up on your video’s because I haven’t watched your channel since the end of Wano.
So much fun and helps to put the whole egghead and stuff in between into perspective. (And there are a lot of videos, Yaay)