PS: There's a lot of things I would change about this video in retrospect,but one of the bigger ones is, I recognise I interchange traditional masculinity with toxic masculinity a lot which was wrong. Toxic masculinity can coincide with traditional when taking it to the extreme but they're not the same. I probably should've mentioned hyper traditional masculinity or sometthing....thanks for all the people who respectfully pointed that out!
There is no such thing as Toxic Masculinity, it's a made up mind game for women to explain away their fails when a man who's better then them beats them, women use it to cope when they recognize a man is better themselves. They argue that a man looking down on someone whose inferior to themselves that is a woman is only based on them being a woman and not that they suck at what they do, because women have there own society and it is based mostly on social appetence of lies about each other and rarely includes merit, look up Caitlin Clark if you don't understand this. Women suffer a hard inferiority complex mostly created by them failing to out do men in the things men do and the fail mostly come from their inability to accept that men do and women come to an agreement, that why the best man in the NBA is the best player and the best women in the WNBA is the one with the most friends saying she's the best. And when the worlds cross over, Toxic Masculinity is any man who is not using the female system of social popularity is the best.
Love the video. I'd recommend a book call King, Warrior, Magician, Lover. It's about the archetypes of masculinity that art and stories around the world that shape what we tell boys they should be. I think toxic masculinity is a harmful term that doesn't bring us closer to a solution. It's like the concept of original sin or leaning on the idea that men are "defective women".
@mackaleprado5039 not really, highly depends on what your sacrificing it all for and even then there's no guarantee that the sacrifice makes it happen in the end. Better to live and continue fighting for whatever it is you believe in so that you may see it come to pass with your own eyes imo.
I think the reason why many young men are obsessed with this final stand idea is actually very simple. The good death comes after good and fulfiling life, where you fought countless battles with your brothers in arms, you were true part of the community, maybe even loved, hated by your rivals, maybe having someone home waiting for you. Death after life like that seems like fitting end almost as cherry at the top of great cake. The problem is there is no life like that for most of us, so we think that at least that death will give our empty lives a meaning at its final end.
J.R.R. Tolkien said it best: "I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend." Men would die to protect their loved ones.
And so would many women, especially mothers. This isn't even uniquely a man thing, not that those who cling to it so tightly would want to accept that.
@Taimo you are missing the point. The proclivity for men to be drawn to conflict, war, and sacrifice is for the love of what is being protected. Because men on a general whole are the first to the battlefield. It is referred to as a last stand because it refers to the last soldier protecting that which is precious. That doesn't mean women don't feel it, such as mothers, but that in order for it to be a true last stand the soldier must be one of if not the last able-bodied men. It Is the quintessential last duty of menkind, to physically protect his loved one.
@@Taima The difference being that women are societally perceived as being more important and men as more disposable. In crisis, men are shoved into the role of those who sacrifice themselves and women are the ones who must survive so they can rebuild afterwards. This permeates everything, from men being the first ones to get drafted, to murdered women being far more likely to get breathless news coverage than a man who died in the same circumstances, to nameless, disposable goons in an action movie almost entirely being male.
@@mimszanadunstedt441while being a workaholic is bad, usually most people don’t recognize it and have the tendency to see it as good. That it is something to strive for, and choose to enable those who have workaholic behaviors. It’s a “if you’re going to negatively perceived, would you rather it be for being lazy or for giving all your effort” sort of thing Sure, running forward and running away are both bad, but if you were capable of choosing out of those two or to “do nothing” in a situation where you lose no matter what you, which would you pick?
There's a story in Irish Celtic mythology about a warrior named Cú Chulainn who, when confronted with his death in battle, tied himself to a rock to give his enemy the appearance that he was still standing.
Just finished the video and must agree dragon and chameleon is awesome. I love both manga about artists and manga about making manga so it scratches two parts of my brain. Also the character designs are done so well.
Also I agree dragon and chameleon is awesome. I love manga about artists and manga about making manga so it scratches both those. The character designs are awesome and the way the switch is illustrated through it is really cool
Go look at Warhammer 40k don't look at the super soldier look at the normal average humans that hold the line for 10,000 years pushing back the darkness even when there weapons is useless not as powerful as space marine in numbers and no hesitation to sacrifice themselves taking down 1 enemy.
@arnonym5430 NOOOOOOOOO, the movie 300 was not it mann, the mf king died by storm of arrows (it was majestic ngl, but it's just not it)... It was a good movie but they also kinda lost me with the giants, goblins and the half goat thing?!?! damnn
To me, it has everything to do with how Men express love. To me, Men show they love by making sacrifices for the objects of that affection, whether it be by sacrificing their comfort, their time, their energy, their well being, etcetera. Dying in a final stand is merely the ultimate expression of that love, for what more can you possibly give up? Who among us can claim they did not love, when they would give up the most precious thing they possess- their very lives, for what they love?
Perfecto. This reminds me so much of my father, whom I lost early this year. The number of people who came to his funeral was inspiring. He left a positive mark on everyone he interacted with. Even the ones who didn't like him. What you just wrote describes him perfectly, and it's what I'm currently trying to live up to. To be in service to my friends, family, and my community. To make someone's life better, even if it's just a little.
This. I wouldn't die for just anything or anyone, but my family? I'd die to ensure their safety. Giving my life to save theirs is something that I would do in a heartbeat. To do otherwise is a life where I'd be ashamed of myself. I want to protect those I care for, even if means making the ultimate sacrifice.
The masculine urge to turn to your comrade of 15+ years and say “It has been the greatest honor of my life to serve with you” as you call in a danger close air strike on top of your position on your final mission
The reason why men are obsessed with this trope is that it was considered to be a honourable thing to do in the battlefield. But men surviving to tell the tale are even more respected due to actually being there and receiving the knowledge that they've learned. That's why even in modern times people still respect historical figures despite the difference in the environment and status of mankind itself.
Slight counterpoint: How many historical figures do we get to learn from and experience their tales because there were brave men who laid down their lives to assure that their brothers in arms (the historical figures we talk of now) would live to tell their tale. Their sacrifice is something that raises the likelihood that their comrades can see another day
Lets not forget that the farmer archtype is a huge cornerstone of masculenity. The farmer must be strong enough to till the soil and protect his cattle, but he also needs to be nurturing enough to tend to his crops and take care of an animal when it gets sick.
I think for a lot of us. We don't want our end to come from a long stay in bed, senile and afraid. So we imagine meeting our end fighting to defend something we care about
Why do soldiers desire war? I'm a non combat veteran, but I've met many combat veterans and spoken to them about their experiences. It's because it's familiar. In that moment they know how to execute a task, be it driving a truck, shooting a gun, conducting recon. In that moment that's all they are and they execute it perfectly. It becomes who they are. It's because they're good at it and nothing is more fulfilling that being needed to do the task you are a master at. Come home and there's no one that needs you to kill or spy or drive a tank.
I mean it's not just soldiers. Remember we as young children fought with wooden swords and pretend guns to fight. It's not that soldiers desire war it's that ultimately humanity desires conflict or challenge . Video games are a good example of this, CSGO and Chivalry are good example of the desire for conflict and now even Minecraft with civilization type events are also fulfilling does desires of conflict
I am someone who has a lot of anxiety It serves me well as a surgeon abd was yseful during training, but its also draining for daily life. I like bad situations, mass casualties, floods, covid etc i had a purpose and i wasnt worrying, i was just executing tasks as i was supposed to. Danger brought a senze of clarity lacking in my daily life
Because no matter how useless or dissapointing you have felt in your life, the act of giving your life up for something you value can make you feel "redeemed". At least in my experience that was the reason
Then these people need to forgive themselves and work on themselves because they cab always change for the better instead of dreaming of some "dying in glory in battle", guess what, if those people really are useless or disapointing then they will also be useless and disapointing in battle, they will most likely have an useless death that changed the tied of nothing ibstead of the glorious death they dreamed of. Those people just want the easy way out, you know what's better than sacrificing yourself by dying? Sacrificing yourself by living a life that helps others (being kind to others, helping the less fortunate, teaching those that want to learn) but you actually need to put in effort for that and those people don't want that
Redemption arcs are engrossing for a reason. Only the selfish think about dying for themselves. Ties into the same ideas of legacy. Selfish men create legacies merely to satisfy their own egos. One selfless act doesn't undo a life time selfishness and neglect; but its still something that helps convince yourself (and others) you aren't totally irredeemable. And that circumstances could had been avoided if things had somehow been different.
@nilsix2371but in the end of the day they are not wrong either Its their own life, they are free to do anything they want even if its just to make themself feel better about their own existence. No man created equally, dont expect others to understand your ideal way in life.
@nilsix2371 I fully agree. I think you should check out my comment above as I parallel to how this type of death as atonement is ultimately a way to run from actually taking accountability
Man hear this: I live somewhere in Africa, one day the rebels beat the army and entered the city. So the poor people took the opportunity to pillage the "richs", my family was not rich but we were just not poor, because the people I am talking about are poor African style poor. So they came like in a zombie apocalypse, and broke into the front yard, then the rebels arrived and the peacekeeper soldiers, some kind of shooting started, I don't have time to explain the clusterfuck, but my point is.... I fond myself helping my neighbor recover his favorite Jordans, in the middle of a war surrounded by looters and rebels. Was it stupid? YES! Was it the only stupid thing I did that day? NO! BUT it felt so good to have a goal when the entire country was falling into chaos. I mean I was in another plane of existence at this point, it felt soooo gooood man.
And people wonder why Rocky was such a hit all the way back in 1976. Rocky knows he can't win against Apollo Creed. He's a nobody going up against the best heavyweight in the world. But he promises his love Adrian that he'll go out with a fight. "Seeing that bell ring and I'm still standing... then I'll know for the first time in my life, see... that I weren't just another bum from the neighborhood." And that's why Rocky Balboa is the best ❤
No, Rocky wanted to prove he could "go the distance" with Apollo Creed. That's why it was important that he remain standing and never gave up. THAT'S why he's inspiring
@@LilXancheX a lot of people don't *feel* that though. a lot (especially guys) feel like life has no meaning. is it rational? no, of course not. but it has nothing to do with movies or anime or something. guys have been doing this literally forever. it's just men have way more choice now than before and it's still carrying over.
@@TheIdiotFr0102 it’s insanely boring, I know. I’m bored right now as we speak. But there are times when something comes and brightens up your day and makes you think “wow, I’m glad to exist here and now” Like for me, if I didn’t exist. I wouldn’t have ever seen my favorite anime called dragon ball z when goku goes super saiyan, or I would have never known about sonic and how fast he is. Or I would have never known how wonderful music can be. I would have never known what it’s like being a teenager, or a kid. I think life has its ups and downs, but there are times when the ups overshadow the downs. It could be worse… I always tell myself at least. That I could be a 40 year old man, or 60, homeless, bald or no family. But no, I’m just a young 20 something year old, studying, working and watching TH-cam on my free time. I’d take that than suffering any sort of pain.
@@anon2034 Yeah but its about how you feel in the moment and fighting for something you believe in. It isn't "healthy" nor does it fix the problem but damn is it badass.
I think it’s more about the hero’s death. The hero doesn’t get to see the happy ending the victory he gives the ultimate sacrifice. He only hopes his death wasn’t in vain. Idk just my opinion though
inside you have two moods in one side you have "It's okay,you matter,come here honey, let's cuddle" and in the other side you have "STAY STRONG,SOLDIERS,THIS IS THE BATTLE WHO WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING,WE ARE FIGHTING FOR SOMETHING FAR GREATER THAN US, OUR LIFES HAD MEANING AND THE ONES AFTER US WILL CARRY FORWARD FOR A BETTER WORLD,MY SOLDIERS SCREAM OUT,MY SOLDIERS RAAAAAAAAGE!!" and both a very valid
Lol time to copypasta a meme and pretend I thought it up. ... And now it's my turn to be the fool who didn't watch the video all the way through before commenting. Or moreso, wasting effort commenting at all.
i think it's because men understand the true meaning of that kind of sacrifice, and because we view ourselves as protectors or think it's the only way we can really be worth something. A lot of men don't think they're worth more than this.
It's literally in our DNA, thousands of years of battle, survival, death, rebirth, children and partners passed from our ancestors drives us to WANT to improve, WANT to be better than our brothers, to lead, for what reason? We're not sure entirely, but we love every moment of it, relish it even, and society works best when pushed by a united front.
This is what my Grandfather taught me before he died To be a man isn't to be the dominant one in any interaction, it's to serve as a rolemodel for those in need To be a man isn't to demand loyalty because of strength, it's meant to be earned for a good reason To be a man isn't to be aggressive at any challenge, it's to use your strength to protect those who cannot protect themselves To be a man doesn't mean you can't cry, it means you reserve your tears when others need a shoulder. You cry when everybody else has had time to mourn To be a man isn't to be ever stern and unmoving with your child, you need to be the voice of reason and guidance. Unwaivering, but considerate To be a man doesn't mean you're the sole breadwinner in the family, it means you are the guaranteed line of support in times of hardship. And one I added myself because of a very influential character "Be strong enough to be gentle" - Peter and Larry Cullen I myself do get the tingles with these heroic last stands, but I get the sane feeling from helping others. I chose to utilize my knowledge of mechanics to instead build prosthetics for those who survived those battles
For me in college it was Rock Lee/Might Guy from Naruto and Kamina/Simon from Gurren Lagann. I fondly remember one period of 2 weeks where I was helping work on renovating this elderly woman's property so she could be more comfortable even when the people nearby who cycled in and out helping her with day-to-day stuff weren't around. We were also cutting down trees that could potentially collapse within the next few years on her property and other safety stuff. Anyway, during that time one of the older guys says to me something along the lines of "sorry we've been working you so hard, I know it must be rough doing this stuff if you'renot used to it" and I, being a huge dork, parrot, "THE SWEAT OF EFFORT MAKES VICTORY SHINE!" He and another of the guys are the "youngin's don't know hard work anymore" type but hearing this they were like helllllll yeah, this kid knows what's up. They started complimenting my upstanding work ethic for the next few minutes all because I quoted a Rock Lee line from a video game. 😂
As a man who achieved nothing in his life that deserve mentioning or to be proud of , dying in battle fighting for the right purpose or making time so my comrades can escape is something that would make me proud in the afterlife that's why we men are obsessed with dying in battle
So you just want the easy way out of "dying in the battlefied for glory" even tought there is no glory in dying for old men in power that don't care about you instead of putting the effort of changing your life for the better?
@nilsix2371 my brother I said "fighting for the right purpose" Also you missed my point when you mentioned glory, there is a difference between dying proud helping others and fighting for the glory , in the first glory is achievable no matter what because your are purely facing the fear of death doing a good thing while in the second you won't be satisfied with yourself because you are seeking glory solely . The point is men (this generation) want to die in battle because unconsciously they are not satisfied with themselves or think they are not doing enough that's why seeing your comrades or your country safe because of your contribution will make proud of yourself (Sorry for my poor english)
I think the attractive part of the masculine urge to self-sacrifice is that it's about integrity. Standing for what you believe in is considered an honorable trait by others, but doing so even unto the end is an act to prove and lock in what is never set in stone while living.
yeah i think you're right - which is why it's strange (to me, at least) that people think joining the military is the answer... that's just supporting a business; hardly a noble or honourable trait
@@Prawnslyyou think too self-centered when you describe the military. In the traditional sense, the military is more than just an arm of an uncaring government whose goals are purely for profit. The military is an extension of one’s nation, their culture and beliefs. It is also the embodiment of putting your money where your mouth is since it is a commitment as much as a job. People respect action and integrity from men, and the military is an obvious way to get both.
@@alexfrost2799the military is dishonourable and selfish, preying on young men to line the pockets of the rich, if you join the US military you’ll never actually fight for what you believe in unless that belief is making the rich richer, you’ll never fight to protect your loved ones, you’ll just be a young and lost man splitting blood for a government that couldn’t care about you, Fighting with honour and integrity is a good thing ,great even, but the military is not the place to find these two
@@alexfrost2799 from my experiences and the perspective of global politics, that seems quite naive and idealistic. i believe a lot of military professionals feel that they are fighting for certain beliefs, ideals and values, but the reality is that the people in charge don't care. the primary motivation is always political influence and material wealth, just like always. if you really want to stand up for your nation, take the harder path and try to become an activist or politician who retains their integrity and resists corruption. we don't see many of those.
Human beings are simultaneously violent and altruistic as a species. Dying as a young man with no family to protect is tragic. Dying to protect your family is heroic.
This video is a master work. And it's even more impressive as we're still struggling with these dueling philosophies. You speak with experience and humility that grant you authority beyond your years. Liked and followed. Thank you for your hopeful perspective
I wrestled in highschool and loved it. My dad, (who did as well) perfectly described the mindset of a wrestling match. "It's 20,000 BC, and the two of you come across a slain wooly mammoth. One of you is taking it back to your tribe, who will have the food and fur to make it through another winter. The other will die facedown in the snow, and his last thought will be that everyone he's ever known will starve to death." Wrestling obviously isn't war, but it taps in to some of that same primal feeling. As a kid with ADHD, my mind was always abuzz with thoughts and anxieties, but they all vanished on the wrestling mat. For the first few years, I couldn't hear or see anything during a tough match. Every bit of mental energy was triaged to focus on the match, and there was serenity in that. When your normal problems are grades or girls, you face the difficulty that there isn't a clear way to "try harder," but with wrestling, you can make up for a discrepancy in skill or strength by sheer application of intensity, and that simplicity is very gratifying.
Incredibly well put. Simplicity of direction is huge. Everyone wants to do better, but the methods aren’t always clear. When you have a simple goal, and know your motivation, you can feel accomplished that you put all you had to give, especially physically
There is a saying in the Cyberpunk 2077. "In Night City, it's not how you live, it's how you die." I personally believe it too. How you end something will always tie everything together.
I disagree also. In order for the death tying everything together, it would mean that dead should come right time. Think about it. If you want to die like a hero, then you should get a heroic death, like shooting an enemy or saving your friends from doom or doing a sabotage that will effect positevely for you side somehow to battle. But dead do not come with a clock. Dead is random thing on a battlefield. Artillery doesn't see its target. It doesn't know who it will kill. Soldiers shoot the enemy that is right infront of you or try to survive. Snipers and drone users are a different thing. They can see better who they try to kill. However in most cases death is random thing in a battlefield. Maybe you were send to frontline just as the same place was a target for an attack. Maybe you fell ill of all those deceases that plague battlefield and could not get nurse right in time. Maybe an accident where truck that transports you falls to the ground you get grushed. Reasons are many.
Shitty corporations, inflation and many homeless people, grueling street gang activities. We're just missing the tech and world war 3.@@darkzeroprojects4245
I appreciate this on a level I didn't think I would. I was born sickly, but dreamt of getting stronger. I used any and every tiny method I could in mundane life to improve my body, even though I'll never have stronger lungs than a habitual smoker. But funny enough, what really turned out to be the thing people around me needed/wanted from me, was my empathy. Everyone close to me appreciates me not as a Vegeta like my dad, or a Kratos like my cousin, or even a Sherlock Holmes like a friend of mine. They know me as the guy who always has an open door and a spare bed. And that makes me happier than I ever thought it would.
As a adude equally sickly from birth, I envy you! Please treasure the person you came to be and people have come to value! Because against all these 'glory in death' types you have one major advantage: You are still around to actually experience the positive impact you're making and the good you bring to people's lives!
Yes! Much, MUCH harder to live for someone than to die for someone. Putting up with them day after day after day is more difficult than just being done with it.
Rarely get the luxury of choosing in life or death situations. You are simply choosing to not back down, understanding that it may mean certain death. Living after making that choice is a bonus, but not a thing you get to choose.
The only thing man wants is to say.. "I am Rylanor of the Emperor's Children, Ancient of Rites, Venerable of the Palatine Host, and proud servant of the Emperor of Mankind, Beloved by all! I reject you now and always! TO STRIKE YOU DOWN, I HAVE WAITED MILLION NIGHTS!"
14:30 I disagree that "no man is able to reach these peak levels of masculinity" line. That is an absolute statement that is proven wrong every time a war starts. There are dozens of books about individual soldiers, even a couple of women, on all sides of WW2 who accomplished great feats and even survived to talk about it afterwards. Can every person do this? Statistically no but your life will have less meaning if you don't sincerely work to accomplish something difficult or, worthy of effort.
Those days have come to a close. If the conflicts currently ongoing should have taught you anything its that faceless computer targeting systems and cheap expendable drone platforms are now "the new meta". Even more brutally the peak level of masculinity is arguably for sale now and it looks like a social media influencer sauced to the gills on gear lmao. It's an overused quote but its honestly true. "“We’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war… our Great Depression is our lives." Our great war is a proxy fight. Our great depression has been bailed out (twice) to keep 8o0mers and mega conglomerates from going under. You can go ahead and call me a doomer but the general statement of "accomplish something difficult" isn't well defined enough. To most that just means make enough money to insulate yourself from the nihilistic rat race the developed world is in.
@@JackRippa-bq9qo you are edgy kid lol. Those warriors born in a era where that was their whole life and none of them dream of dying you’re just anime watching nerd with fantasies who can’t even throw a proper punch lol or been in a real fight or who would actually do something like become champion of something lol
Not gonna lie, this is the only verse in the Bible I have memorized verbatim. I thank the Texas A&M Corps of Cadets for that, but I actually really love this verse. "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man may lay down his life for his friends." - John 15:13 (KJV)
@troybaxter My mind is literally just cool Old Testament quotes that need more context, Leviathan/Behemoth shadowed in the background of Job like anime villains and 20 years of confusion and concern for the utter insanity goes down in Revelations outside of the purely good things people fixate on. The Bible be wild sometimes.
Women: Men want one thing and it's disgusting Men: I am one of the Emperor’s Children! I am Rylanor and I am the Ancient of Rites! So I reject you for now and for always! To strike you down, I have waited for A MILLION NIGHTS.
Damn Rylanor was a badass. He stayed alive for so damn long, resisting decay and dementia just to get his final revenge, and you know what? He fucking got it. Immortal or not, Fulgrim’s ass got blasted.
That’s why Musashi’s life is in a way a tragedy, he never received a “good” death. A lifetime of warfare, 62 - 0 on duels to the death, only two die old and alone in a cave from cancer. He died upright with a sword in his hand.
This has always been a dumb quote to me. Spartans die, and the UNSC is getting its ass kicked so badly by the Covenant it just refuses to acknowledge these deaths officially because humanity is about to go extinct and we need to believe in SOMETHING that can turn things around. Clearly, the thoughts and prayers and MAC guns aren't doing a good enough job.
This is one of my favorite video essays on TH-cam and happy to have found your channel through it, keep up the good work and hope you are successful with the content and work you make 👏
The answer is purpose. Throwing everything we have into something we believe is worth dying for. It's the spark that drives us as men in our darkest hour. When we lack that purpose, that spark, we self delete. We just want to matter. We want our lives to mean something. To give ourselves to something greater than ourselves. I think it's the core of that mentality that's ultimately gotten all of humanity this far. A desire for something more. Something we can believe in. And anything worth dying for is something worth believing in.
Unfortunately, we do all that only to be forgotten throughout the years. As Lex Luthor said in Justice League Unlimited, "Not even the best of us can compete with time.".
Why did you write this comment as if you’re at war fighting at the edge of death and sacrificing your self ? While in reality you never had one fight in your life or can fight at all or done anything that is significant lol
Your very distinct style of "I'm gonna mash together styles and clips from the essayists I like" Is honestly really charming. 9/10 video, I appreciate the mic quality a lot.
Imagine for a moment, sacrificing yourself, perpetuates war. Everyone sacrificing themself to protect people? They all go without people. Now everyones alone.
@@mimszanadunstedt441 Dude, if everyone was willing to sacrifice themselves for their loved ones we'd probably see less war going on unless it was something as bad as cases like the Axis powers. Because then, both sides will be more likely to not want to fight because they know the other side would only be sacrificing themselves for the people they care about back home. Because at the end of the day, to sacrifice yourself is to love another, and 9 times out of 10, love comes with empathy. War is usually only capable of being perpetuated by a lack of it (Because look at the Christmas Truce, it required a lack of empathy from the leadership to get the entirety of that to be squashed out. Solely because they wanted to keep fighting to win)
Dude, fantastic video. It’s a final act of desperation attempting to establish a meaning. The urge to die heroically leads to a fixation on the end of the road, and takes our focus away from journey there which ultimately is where our focus should be. The last stand is final. It’s absolute. The journey is unknown, messy, dynamic. It’s easier to reduce our stresses into, “if I just die right,” vs, “if I have to live right,” it’s much too idillic of an end which preys on our urge to prove our worth in a single, grand showing rather than through millions of mundane choices we make daily. Love your commentary, just earned a sub!
Men in modern times don't die for a cause anymore because they don't HAVE to. And that's a good thing. It makes the sacrifices of our ancestors not in vain.
actually based take. let us remind ourselves that, what we call our "today", is held in pillars of blood. Let us think on how many of our forefathers gave the most precious thing they had, their lives, so we could have a future where we didn't have to give up our most precious thing we have now. _don't come with your whataboutisms, i understand not everyone has the same luck as many of us_
...as long as you live in a first-world country, that is. There are men dying in countless wars all over the globe right now for the interests of their leaders.
That's the tragedy of it all, isn't it? So many men have this burning desire to prove themselves, to show they are worthy of societal acceptance and love. And yet, every time I talk to a veteran, someone whose seen the horrors of war, the way they avoid talking about it, the way they get quiet when the conflict is mentioned, it all tells me the same message: this glory is not worth it. It's the lie we've been told for nearly all of human history. This society that has deemed men only worthy by their ability to provide and protect has also conditioned us to believe we are disposable. The dead have no need for honor, and the families they leave behind would sooner their father, their brother, their husband back. And yeah, someone's got to fight the battle. There will always be evil to rise up against in the world. As long as two people are alive, someone is going to want someone dead. So how do men prove their worth to this society? What opportunities do they get to show they are worth accepting? Kindness and courage are expected givens, the bare minimum in a person. Anything else is considered not worth drawing attention to at all. I wouldn't know the answer. If we did, I think men wouldn't feel this way. But I try not to take the boring, peaceful days for granted anymore. There may not be any honor in dying for another man's lie, but I can at least make sure the men who came before me, who sacrificed their very lives for the chance to be something, can rest knowing I live a better life because of their efforts. And let's work for a future where that will never have to happen again.
I dont want to die to take down the enemy, i want to live to take down the enemy. I think the cool thing about all these characters in fiction is not that they are willing to risk their lives, but that they are doing everything they possibly can to live and defeat their enemies. I honestly think that one of the coolest things ever is doing everything you can to live, giving it your all.
I understand the appeal, but this fascination leads to self destruction. I believe in Patton's line, "Make the other poor bastard die for his country." If your death comes, it comes and you die a hero. But you should strive to win and survive and become legend.
Yeah. You shouldn’t go seeking it out, but if it happens, so be it. But if it becomes inevitable or absolutely necessary for the survival of others then make that stand.
Well that's the goal. But victory requires sacrifice. No real war is won without someone losing and when the enemy wants everything then everyone will have to pay something.
@@adarkwind4712no war would exist had humanity been better than animals. At the end of the day we’re no different from our predecessors only more resourceful but the same instincts and ideas remain like festering sores on a heel.
Space Marine 2 Banner scene. The manly urge to keep the colors flying to the bitter end Want another example? Look at Los Ninos Neroes. 6 kids defending the last Castle in Mexico to the end and taking the banners with them off the side of a cliff than let their enemies claim it.
Because if the last thing you ever do is something important, it gives every mundane moment before that end meaning. You lived your life to finish something greater than yourself.
Maybe i'd rather die like Johnny Silverhand than be a corporate slave for a merchant overlord. Maybe our current world is shiet and deep down, we know we should do something, but we've been so domesticated that we feel empty.
The fantasy of dying in battle goes so hard. Because in the seconds before and after, you and everyone next to you are the most important you can possibly be to each other. The idea of dying a pointless death feels euphoric compared to living a pointless life.
It's very simple, it's a death worth being lived. You're fighting for someone as your last act. Not dying in some hospital, not getting stabbed in some alley, not dying in some unmarked grave after a life doing the most boring office job. You're dying as a warrior, fighting to the death for something you believe in so much that you're willing to dedicate your final acts to it. It's epic, it's history being made, history of humanity, an universal show of determination and human spirit.
I think the idea of it being the final chapter in a story is why its so big. Like its not just one moment, its every moment that brought the character to that final moment. The end of a life could be seen as its culmination. Finally, this is it, your life in full. The final stand just takes that up higher than the somber final moment of a peaceful death. A death that could be added as an epilogue to a game is less exciting than a death that would feature as a cut scene during the fun part.
This reminds me of the Viking that fought in battle to make it into Valhalla but was buried in the ways of Christianity making his efforts for naught. Edit: Forgot to mention it was an animation and didn’t factcheck the accuracy. Thanks for the update.
Thats not how that works. The burial is irrelevant. He will still go to Valhalla. In a norse poem King Haakon the good was a christian but he ended up in Valhalla anyway.
Hey man, just wanted to say your title was so fire I downloaded your video and listened to it while at work and it basically irrevocably changed the way I think about myself. Many thanks for the wisdom and I'm glad the vid got recommended
My therapist once told me when i explained to him that i can't leave something and person behind: "You think you are only worth it, if you suffer don't you?" And that was... a slap that opened my eyes I don't need to suffer to be worth anything I need to find worth in what i am doing About the world i fantasies about Its mostly a world like STALKER or Metro 2033 Because i don't wanna die in it, but i wanna be the one that goes to the front, that does what need to be done, when all are afraid and turn back. Moving forward, where all stopped. (Its need to be said, i am a coward. I face some of my fears but i would not say i am a especially brave) And finally about the final samurai I started this year to train swordfighting/japanese warcraft. Its from an old school, that dates back around 400 years(?) and if my sensei doesn't screw me, the longest still teaching without a period where there was none. And the important stuff i learnt isn't how to swing my sword and slice up shit. Its that my sword is just a tool. That to be a warrior doesn't mean to be a fighter, but to live for others and be a lighthouse in the storm. Am i there yet? FUCK NO! I am only one year into this school, but everytime i listen to my Sensei, i realize that, i have so much to learn. I am not gonna tell you know "i am a warrior" or "i am a master of warcraft" Because the gods know, i am just on my way to... what ever i am! (I just realized this is gonna be a yap session but... eh) I talked with a fellow trainee of that school and i told him, that when i started, that i never saw myself as a fighter/warrior... more of a storyteller or maybe writer But warrior is not a job or a thing that excludes other things Its a choice to life and always try to find a way. We get teached that we need to hold our sword in the sheet UNTIL, there is no other way Anyway, i written to much Greetings from some random Dude
A last stand many don’t know about is of MSgt John Chapman, he’s the reason I joined the airforce and in training to become a combat controller, he stood against a ton of taliban on a snowy mountain wiping out their dugouts with machine guns and etc, all alone, to find a navy seal who had been taken to a bunker at the top of the mountain, he died fighting to find a brother in arms. And didn’t flee unlike some of the seals that were with him on that mission.
Girl here. I want to die on my feet because i want my body to give out before my will does. Ride down from Asgard to the battlefield. Bringer of the valiant dead. Who died but never yielded.
Being able to bench 325 and provide for my family is an amazing feeling, the realized fantasy of coming home from a long shitty shift to my kiddos screaming daddy and my wife giving me a warm hug is amazing and I could roll credits at any moment in that.... but also dying while my family makes it to safety while I fight off hordes of whatever sounds amazing also.
Do some reading up on Uji Bridge around 1180. A group of ~2000 monks with some allied samurai tore up the boards on the bridge and held off a force of 25,000 for almost a full day. It was written afterwards that the bodies of the drowned looked like autumn leaves clogging forest streams.
"I lost interest when the numbers became too high for me to count on my fingers. We will fight and win, or fight and die. All that ever changes is the color of the sky we fight under, and the shade of the blood on our blades." -Arterion of Squad Grimaldus, Black Templar Sword-Brother of the Helsreach Crusade
I've learned how to be authentic to my values regardless of whether society deems my attitude, behaviour, or values as unmanly or childish from a very young age (10-12). I've never been depressed and overall I feel like I'm the opposite of the men you're talking about and trying to reach as the target audience as I've already had my vagabond Musashi moment like 10+ years ago. Coming from that perspective I think you really hit the nail on this video. You were able to describe the potential root cause behind the obsession which is really dope cause it helps me think about something that i potentially struggled with during the first half of my life. Something old and hard to remember. Sometimes I have friends (both sides) ask how i became what I am today in order to help them understand the men in their lives or themselves. This video is great at doing that. Nonetheless, I still imagine myself dying depressingly in an empty hillside full of untouched snow on my way to my girl. Littering the the white snow with a tinge of bright red because its such a powerful and poignant aesthetic.
26:08 The switching from hyper anime guy to Spectacular Spider-Man is just peak illustration of the balance, because yes, Spider-Man is strong, but the focus is never on his strengths. It's on how he can use everything he has to help people who need him.
@@DefaultProphetyup, it's just that you know you did your best. You keep saying "just a little more time, just 1 more enemy" till you collapse there is literally nothing more you can do and that's the pride of it. That you didn't cower in fear, that you gave it your all till the last breath.
PS: There's a lot of things I would change about this video in retrospect,but one of the bigger ones is, I recognise I interchange traditional masculinity with toxic masculinity a lot which was wrong. Toxic masculinity can coincide with traditional when taking it to the extreme but they're not the same. I probably should've mentioned hyper traditional masculinity or sometthing....thanks for all the people who respectfully pointed that out!
Fun fact: "Toxic masculinity" doesn't exist. That term never even existed before like a decade ago.
@@zombifiedpariah7392point?
There is no such thing as Toxic Masculinity, it's a made up mind game for women to explain away their fails when a man who's better then them beats them, women use it to cope when they recognize a man is better themselves.
They argue that a man looking down on someone whose inferior to themselves that is a woman is only based on them being a woman and not that they suck at what they do, because women have there own society and it is based mostly on social appetence of lies about each other and rarely includes merit, look up Caitlin Clark if you don't understand this. Women suffer a hard inferiority complex mostly created by them failing to out do men in the things men do and the fail mostly come from their inability to accept that men do and women come to an agreement, that why the best man in the NBA is the best player and the best women in the WNBA is the one with the most friends saying she's the best.
And when the worlds cross over, Toxic Masculinity is any man who is not using the female system of social popularity is the best.
Love the video. I'd recommend a book call King, Warrior, Magician, Lover. It's about the archetypes of masculinity that art and stories around the world that shape what we tell boys they should be. I think toxic masculinity is a harmful term that doesn't bring us closer to a solution. It's like the concept of original sin or leaning on the idea that men are "defective women".
@@Mayorski Fun fact: "Toxic" masculinity doesn't exist.
IF I DIE WITH HONOUR, I CAN MAKE UP FOR A LIFE OF SHAME AND MUNDANITY
There is no shame in mundanity
There is no dignity in death
@@kalebb1226 There is no dignity in mundanity.
But there is meaning to sacrifice
@mackaleprado5039 not really, highly depends on what your sacrificing it all for and even then there's no guarantee that the sacrifice makes it happen in the end. Better to live and continue fighting for whatever it is you believe in so that you may see it come to pass with your own eyes imo.
I think the reason why many young men are obsessed with this final stand idea is actually very simple. The good death comes after good and fulfiling life, where you fought countless battles with your brothers in arms, you were true part of the community, maybe even loved, hated by your rivals, maybe having someone home waiting for you. Death after life like that seems like fitting end almost as cherry at the top of great cake.
The problem is there is no life like that for most of us, so we think that at least that death will give our empty lives a meaning at its final end.
words of golkd my friend
or because of movies
Or also, fear to decay, to get to old and die in a bed, die in battle sounds like merciful compare to see the decay of your body.
Just join the military or volunteer fighter
@@johnrosstaylor4977 I don't see them going to Ukraine
Me yelling "THIS IS FOR GOHAN" as I throw a 30IB plate at a 5 year old.
Usually not the type who laughs at these jokes but this rules😂
Make it a 45lb😭🙏
Lolllll
you shouldnt have me open mouth belly laughing at like 6am dude, i'm trying to be considerate. 😂
On Bibbity 💯
J.R.R. Tolkien said it best:
"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend."
Men would die to protect their loved ones.
Chad J.R.R. Tolkien dropping Thors hammers and forging the one ring with them quotes
And so would many women, especially mothers. This isn't even uniquely a man thing, not that those who cling to it so tightly would want to accept that.
@Taimo you are missing the point. The proclivity for men to be drawn to conflict, war, and sacrifice is for the love of what is being protected. Because men on a general whole are the first to the battlefield. It is referred to as a last stand because it refers to the last soldier protecting that which is precious. That doesn't mean women don't feel it, such as mothers, but that in order for it to be a true last stand the soldier must be one of if not the last able-bodied men. It Is the quintessential last duty of menkind, to physically protect his loved one.
@@Taima The difference being that women are societally perceived as being more important and men as more disposable. In crisis, men are shoved into the role of those who sacrifice themselves and women are the ones who must survive so they can rebuild afterwards. This permeates everything, from men being the first ones to get drafted, to murdered women being far more likely to get breathless news coverage than a man who died in the same circumstances, to nameless, disposable goons in an action movie almost entirely being male.
@@Taimawhy have you turned this into a meb vs wkman issue
The masculine urge to die beside Sanguinius at the foot of the Eternity Gate
For the EMPEROR Brother
FOR THE GOD EMPEROR!!!!
I will lay down my life in service of the fabulous hawk-boy.
For the emperor
FOR THE EMPEROR
"My body is broken. I go to my fathers. And even in their mighty company I shall not now be ashamed". - King Theoden
Ahh yes The masculine urge to watch a video about the masculine urge🗿 perfection
This made my day.
True masculinity🗿
Hit the nail right on the head lol.
There's nothing mor masculine than two men. Except maybe three men.
Go unload the dishwasher little bro.
Dying in battle is choosing how you died when you knew you couldn’t run with dignity
Running forward is still running.
Hell, You Made me remember whitebeard
@@mimszanadunstedt441 running isn’t the problem it’s the direction you’re running that says something
@@ShrekThaOGEE people run forward all the time i.e. workaholics
@@mimszanadunstedt441while being a workaholic is bad, usually most people don’t recognize it and have the tendency to see it as good. That it is something to strive for, and choose to enable those who have workaholic behaviors. It’s a “if you’re going to negatively perceived, would you rather it be for being lazy or for giving all your effort” sort of thing
Sure, running forward and running away are both bad, but if you were capable of choosing out of those two or to “do nothing” in a situation where you lose no matter what you, which would you pick?
There's a story in Irish Celtic mythology about a warrior named Cú Chulainn who, when confronted with his death in battle, tied himself to a rock to give his enemy the appearance that he was still standing.
Tied himself to the rock with his intestines to continue fighting and die on his feet if I remember correctly
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@@sean5350 What a good chap he was
Lancer ga shinda!
There's a similar Japanese legend from the Genpei war period. Look up "The Standing Death of Benkei."
Because it would give my life meaning. And then I would never have to worry it again.
Just finished the video and must agree dragon and chameleon is awesome. I love both manga about artists and manga about making manga so it scratches two parts of my brain. Also the character designs are done so well.
Also I agree dragon and chameleon is awesome. I love manga about artists and manga about making manga so it scratches both those. The character designs are awesome and the way the switch is illustrated through it is really cool
Acurate
Go look at Warhammer 40k don't look at the super soldier look at the normal average humans that hold the line for 10,000 years pushing back the darkness even when there weapons is useless not as powerful as space marine in numbers and no hesitation to sacrifice themselves taking down 1 enemy.
So simple yet so true 😐, how come death can forgive
Man, just imagine fighting a battalion of warriors, killed them all and then died standing tall holding a spear MENACINGLY in the end, peak fantasy.
The movie 300 was exactly about this, and its good
@arnonym5430 I haven't watch that yet, and now I'm intrigued, I'll check that soon.
@arnonym5430 NOOOOOOOOO, the movie 300 was not it mann, the mf king died by storm of arrows (it was majestic ngl, but it's just not it)...
It was a good movie but they also kinda lost me with the giants, goblins and the half goat thing?!?! damnn
@@KaelMogthe movie was actually based on a comic by frank miller, it’s not an adaptation of the real battle
The One Piece is reallllll !!!!!!!
0:15 "harold 💅"
Sassy mayorski
lmao
To me, it has everything to do with how Men express love. To me, Men show they love by making sacrifices for the objects of that affection, whether it be by sacrificing their comfort, their time, their energy, their well being, etcetera. Dying in a final stand is merely the ultimate expression of that love, for what more can you possibly give up? Who among us can claim they did not love, when they would give up the most precious thing they possess- their very lives, for what they love?
Bingo
Perfecto. This reminds me so much of my father, whom I lost early this year. The number of people who came to his funeral was inspiring. He left a positive mark on everyone he interacted with. Even the ones who didn't like him.
What you just wrote describes him perfectly, and it's what I'm currently trying to live up to. To be in service to my friends, family, and my community. To make someone's life better, even if it's just a little.
This. I wouldn't die for just anything or anyone, but my family? I'd die to ensure their safety. Giving my life to save theirs is something that I would do in a heartbeat. To do otherwise is a life where I'd be ashamed of myself. I want to protect those I care for, even if means making the ultimate sacrifice.
Exactly. and any twisting to turn these urges into faults are sick.
Exactly. Well said 👏
"Death can have me when it earns me."
Thats fucking hard.
God of war quotes go so hard
Yea you a real one for that 💯
The masculine urge to turn to your comrade of 15+ years and say “It has been the greatest honor of my life to serve with you” as you call in a danger close air strike on top of your position on your final mission
why would you air strike yourself
@bislama1 bc we're getting overrun and this is our last stand, and we're taking as many of them with us as possible
The reason why men are obsessed with this trope is that it was considered to be a honourable thing to do in the battlefield. But men surviving to tell the tale are even more respected due to actually being there and receiving the knowledge that they've learned. That's why even in modern times people still respect historical figures despite the difference in the environment and status of mankind itself.
Slight counterpoint: How many historical figures do we get to learn from and experience their tales because there were brave men who laid down their lives to assure that their brothers in arms (the historical figures we talk of now) would live to tell their tale. Their sacrifice is something that raises the likelihood that their comrades can see another day
@@LizardOnAMushroom2358any figure really from Greek or Roman hero’s to grandparents there is always something new to learn
Lets not forget that the farmer archtype is a huge cornerstone of masculenity. The farmer must be strong enough to till the soil and protect his cattle, but he also needs to be nurturing enough to tend to his crops and take care of an animal when it gets sick.
Meh
The farmer is also not a rich man.
@@weaselprime8654 very good point
Exactly. True masculinity requires you to be strong and loving.
@@weaselprime8654 this isn't medieval Europe. If you're farmer by choice in 2024, chances are you're filthy rich.
I think for a lot of us. We don't want our end to come from a long stay in bed, senile and afraid. So we imagine meeting our end fighting to defend something we care about
Why do soldiers desire war? I'm a non combat veteran, but I've met many combat veterans and spoken to them about their experiences. It's because it's familiar. In that moment they know how to execute a task, be it driving a truck, shooting a gun, conducting recon. In that moment that's all they are and they execute it perfectly. It becomes who they are. It's because they're good at it and nothing is more fulfilling that being needed to do the task you are a master at. Come home and there's no one that needs you to kill or spy or drive a tank.
Purpose, it's all that a man wants.
@galaxya69samsung36 facts, brother.
My brother I do not know you, but your profile picture need to be praised. Lodate il sole
I mean it's not just soldiers. Remember we as young children fought with wooden swords and pretend guns to fight.
It's not that soldiers desire war it's that ultimately humanity desires conflict or challenge .
Video games are a good example of this, CSGO and Chivalry are good example of the desire for conflict and now even Minecraft with civilization type events are also fulfilling does desires of conflict
I am someone who has a lot of anxiety
It serves me well as a surgeon abd was yseful during training, but its also draining for daily life.
I like bad situations, mass casualties, floods, covid etc i had a purpose and i wasnt worrying, i was just executing tasks as i was supposed to.
Danger brought a senze of clarity lacking in my daily life
Because no matter how useless or dissapointing you have felt in your life, the act of giving your life up for something you value can make you feel "redeemed". At least in my experience that was the reason
Then these people need to forgive themselves and work on themselves because they cab always change for the better instead of dreaming of some "dying in glory in battle", guess what, if those people really are useless or disapointing then they will also be useless and disapointing in battle, they will most likely have an useless death that changed the tied of nothing ibstead of the glorious death they dreamed of. Those people just want the easy way out, you know what's better than sacrificing yourself by dying? Sacrificing yourself by living a life that helps others (being kind to others, helping the less fortunate, teaching those that want to learn) but you actually need to put in effort for that and those people don't want that
Redemption arcs are engrossing for a reason. Only the selfish think about dying for themselves. Ties into the same ideas of legacy. Selfish men create legacies merely to satisfy their own egos. One selfless act doesn't undo a life time selfishness and neglect; but its still something that helps convince yourself (and others) you aren't totally irredeemable. And that circumstances could had been avoided if things had somehow been different.
@nilsix2371but in the end of the day they are not wrong either
Its their own life, they are free to do anything they want even if its just to make themself feel better about their own existence. No man created equally, dont expect others to understand your ideal way in life.
@nilsix2371 "just IMPROVE YOURSELF, scum!"
@nilsix2371 I fully agree. I think you should check out my comment above as I parallel to how this type of death as atonement is ultimately a way to run from actually taking accountability
Man hear this: I live somewhere in Africa, one day the rebels beat the army and entered the city. So the poor people took the opportunity to pillage the "richs", my family was not rich but we were just not poor, because the people I am talking about are poor African style poor.
So they came like in a zombie apocalypse, and broke into the front yard, then the rebels arrived and the peacekeeper soldiers, some kind of shooting started, I don't have time to explain the clusterfuck, but my point is.... I fond myself helping my neighbor recover his favorite Jordans, in the middle of a war surrounded by looters and rebels.
Was it stupid? YES! Was it the only stupid thing I did that day? NO! BUT it felt so good to have a goal when the entire country was falling into chaos. I mean I was in another plane of existence at this point, it felt soooo gooood man.
-The masculine urge to go out in a blaze of glory-
The primordial tribalistic urge to leave my people with a superior martial art vs the other guys
“Fuck your family I got mine” is a disgusting mindset
And people wonder why Rocky was such a hit all the way back in 1976. Rocky knows he can't win against Apollo Creed. He's a nobody going up against the best heavyweight in the world. But he promises his love Adrian that he'll go out with a fight.
"Seeing that bell ring and I'm still standing... then I'll know for the first time in my life, see... that I weren't just another bum from the neighborhood."
And that's why Rocky Balboa is the best ❤
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No, Rocky wanted to prove he could "go the distance" with Apollo Creed. That's why it was important that he remain standing and never gave up. THAT'S why he's inspiring
Future Gohan is a great example of a warrior dying battle
Gohan knew he would die, but he was still gonna try
And i cry every time
Goku also sacrificed himself but DBS brought him back to ruin his character and writing
??? Goku was revived in the buu saga
@muhammadeyssa23648a
@muhammadeyssa23648 Goku got brought back, TWICE dawg, its not the same.
it's not wanting to die. it's about wanting your life to have meaning
Choosing to get angry over everything for purpose.
Conflict.
People just want their father to beat them again.
Lmao life can have meaning without dying. You people have been watching too many anime and movies. Life is what you make it
@@LilXancheX a lot of people don't *feel* that though. a lot (especially guys) feel like life has no meaning. is it rational? no, of course not. but it has nothing to do with movies or anime or something. guys have been doing this literally forever. it's just men have way more choice now than before and it's still carrying over.
@@LilXancheX life is kinda boring
@@TheIdiotFr0102 it’s insanely boring, I know. I’m bored right now as we speak. But there are times when something comes and brightens up your day and makes you think “wow, I’m glad to exist here and now”
Like for me, if I didn’t exist. I wouldn’t have ever seen my favorite anime called dragon ball z when goku goes super saiyan, or I would have never known about sonic and how fast he is. Or I would have never known how wonderful music can be. I would have never known what it’s like being a teenager, or a kid. I think life has its ups and downs, but there are times when the ups overshadow the downs.
It could be worse… I always tell myself at least. That I could be a 40 year old man, or 60, homeless, bald or no family. But no, I’m just a young 20 something year old, studying, working and watching TH-cam on my free time. I’d take that than suffering any sort of pain.
The 1 time dudes can have a moment and feel important in a society that tells us we are expendable
Dying in war for a managerial class is as close as it gets to the definition of "expendable".
@@anon2034 Yeah but its about how you feel in the moment and fighting for something you believe in. It isn't "healthy" nor does it fix the problem but damn is it badass.
@@rokkalombardi2196your goddamn right
I must serve in the Air Force cause cool planes and glory
@@anon2034Luigi
I think it’s more about the hero’s death. The hero doesn’t get to see the happy ending the victory he gives the ultimate sacrifice. He only hopes his death wasn’t in vain. Idk just my opinion though
*Agrees in berserker rage*
“My life is lighter than a feather. My duty is heavier than a mountain.”
Based Samurai saying, was still used by Japanese fighters in Ww2
@arnonym5430I was going to say the wheel of time.
@@Burning_Entyeah… that was a shock in my imperial Japanese history class XD
Lann was a badass though.
inside you have two moods
in one side you have "It's okay,you matter,come here honey, let's cuddle"
and in the other side you have "STAY STRONG,SOLDIERS,THIS IS THE BATTLE WHO WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING,WE ARE FIGHTING FOR SOMETHING FAR GREATER THAN US, OUR LIFES HAD MEANING AND THE ONES AFTER US WILL CARRY FORWARD FOR A BETTER WORLD,MY SOLDIERS SCREAM OUT,MY SOLDIERS RAAAAAAAAGE!!"
and both a very valid
Well put. On one hand, a comforting, protective father. On the other hand, a mighty, zealous battle-brother.
Lol time to copypasta a meme and pretend I thought it up.
... And now it's my turn to be the fool who didn't watch the video all the way through before commenting. Or moreso, wasting effort commenting at all.
@@Reveticate hey don't be to harsh with yourself,i did that too
This sounds like the wrong speech.
I like the latter...
i think it's because men understand the true meaning of that kind of sacrifice, and because we view ourselves as protectors or think it's the only way we can really be worth something. A lot of men don't think they're worth more than this.
It's literally in our DNA, thousands of years of battle, survival, death, rebirth, children and partners passed from our ancestors drives us to WANT to improve, WANT to be better than our brothers, to lead, for what reason? We're not sure entirely, but we love every moment of it, relish it even, and society works best when pushed by a united front.
The will to power. Nietzsche thought this was one of the primary driving forces in humans.
But now all that's labeled as "toxic masculinity".
@@jovenc4508 objectively wrong
@krieglord
Duh.
@@jovenc4508 masculinity is toxic only when you enforce this on people
This is what my Grandfather taught me before he died
To be a man isn't to be the dominant one in any interaction, it's to serve as a rolemodel for those in need
To be a man isn't to demand loyalty because of strength, it's meant to be earned for a good reason
To be a man isn't to be aggressive at any challenge, it's to use your strength to protect those who cannot protect themselves
To be a man doesn't mean you can't cry, it means you reserve your tears when others need a shoulder. You cry when everybody else has had time to mourn
To be a man isn't to be ever stern and unmoving with your child, you need to be the voice of reason and guidance. Unwaivering, but considerate
To be a man doesn't mean you're the sole breadwinner in the family, it means you are the guaranteed line of support in times of hardship.
And one I added myself because of a very influential character
"Be strong enough to be gentle" - Peter and Larry Cullen
I myself do get the tingles with these heroic last stands, but I get the sane feeling from helping others. I chose to utilize my knowledge of mechanics to instead build prosthetics for those who survived those battles
That was really well said and I love this.
Your grandfather is most likely Batman.
Wise words, would want to have a chat with him.
check your grandfathers closet or secret basement im pretty sure hes a secret super hero
For me in college it was Rock Lee/Might Guy from Naruto and Kamina/Simon from Gurren Lagann. I fondly remember one period of 2 weeks where I was helping work on renovating this elderly woman's property so she could be more comfortable even when the people nearby who cycled in and out helping her with day-to-day stuff weren't around. We were also cutting down trees that could potentially collapse within the next few years on her property and other safety stuff. Anyway, during that time one of the older guys says to me something along the lines of "sorry we've been working you so hard, I know it must be rough doing this stuff if you'renot used to it" and I, being a huge dork, parrot, "THE SWEAT OF EFFORT MAKES VICTORY SHINE!" He and another of the guys are the "youngin's don't know hard work anymore" type but hearing this they were like helllllll yeah, this kid knows what's up. They started complimenting my upstanding work ethic for the next few minutes all because I quoted a Rock Lee line from a video game. 😂
As a man who achieved nothing in his life that deserve mentioning or to be proud of , dying in battle fighting for the right purpose or making time so my comrades can escape is something that would make me proud in the afterlife
that's why we men are obsessed with dying in battle
Hit the nail on the head
Our only way to achieve something in life, is to achieve something in death
So you just want the easy way out of "dying in the battlefied for glory" even tought there is no glory in dying for old men in power that don't care about you instead of putting the effort of changing your life for the better?
@nilsix2371 my brother I said "fighting for the right purpose"
Also you missed my point when you mentioned glory, there is a difference between dying proud helping others and fighting for the glory , in the first glory is achievable no matter what because your are purely facing the fear of death doing a good thing while in the second you won't be satisfied with yourself because you are seeking glory solely .
The point is men (this generation) want to die in battle because unconsciously they are not satisfied with themselves or think they are not doing enough that's why seeing your comrades or your country safe because of your contribution will make proud of yourself
(Sorry for my poor english)
@nilsix2371🤡
I think the attractive part of the masculine urge to self-sacrifice is that it's about integrity.
Standing for what you believe in is considered an honorable trait by others, but doing so even unto the end is an act to prove and lock in what is never set in stone while living.
It's respectable by other men and it's attractive to women. A man with integrity is a force that should never be underestimated.
yeah i think you're right - which is why it's strange (to me, at least) that people think joining the military is the answer... that's just supporting a business; hardly a noble or honourable trait
@@Prawnslyyou think too self-centered when you describe the military. In the traditional sense, the military is more than just an arm of an uncaring government whose goals are purely for profit. The military is an extension of one’s nation, their culture and beliefs. It is also the embodiment of putting your money where your mouth is since it is a commitment as much as a job. People respect action and integrity from men, and the military is an obvious way to get both.
@@alexfrost2799the military is dishonourable and selfish, preying on young men to line the pockets of the rich, if you join the US military you’ll never actually fight for what you believe in unless that belief is making the rich richer, you’ll never fight to protect your loved ones, you’ll just be a young and lost man splitting blood for a government that couldn’t care about you,
Fighting with honour and integrity is a good thing ,great even, but the military is not the place to find these two
@@alexfrost2799 from my experiences and the perspective of global politics, that seems quite naive and idealistic. i believe a lot of military professionals feel that they are fighting for certain beliefs, ideals and values, but the reality is that the people in charge don't care. the primary motivation is always political influence and material wealth, just like always.
if you really want to stand up for your nation, take the harder path and try to become an activist or politician who retains their integrity and resists corruption. we don't see many of those.
Human beings are simultaneously violent and altruistic as a species. Dying as a young man with no family to protect is tragic. Dying to protect your family is heroic.
“Dying to win and Risking death to win, are two different things…”- Gojo Satoru
Oi it’s the Kit Kat dude!
@@Vang2009oi oi oi 💀💀
@@Vang2009 sill a better quote than Poukuns
@@Vang2009
thats a new one
@@Vang2009 Oh you mean the 50/50 guy
"DO IT KAKAROT" with young girl A playing is such a fucking final stand edit 😭😭
Why is this so true
This video is a master work. And it's even more impressive as we're still struggling with these dueling philosophies. You speak with experience and humility that grant you authority beyond your years. Liked and followed. Thank you for your hopeful perspective
I wrestled in highschool and loved it. My dad, (who did as well) perfectly described the mindset of a wrestling match.
"It's 20,000 BC, and the two of you come across a slain wooly mammoth. One of you is taking it back to your tribe, who will have the food and fur to make it through another winter. The other will die facedown in the snow, and his last thought will be that everyone he's ever known will starve to death."
Wrestling obviously isn't war, but it taps in to some of that same primal feeling. As a kid with ADHD, my mind was always abuzz with thoughts and anxieties, but they all vanished on the wrestling mat. For the first few years, I couldn't hear or see anything during a tough match. Every bit of mental energy was triaged to focus on the match, and there was serenity in that. When your normal problems are grades or girls, you face the difficulty that there isn't a clear way to "try harder," but with wrestling, you can make up for a discrepancy in skill or strength by sheer application of intensity, and that simplicity is very gratifying.
How is one man gonna carry out that much meat? Ridiculous
@@JoshuaKevinPerry yeah in reality both tribes would just share the meat because there's too much of it, lol
@@JoshuaKevinPerrybuilt different
Battles simplify things. Modern society adds all kinds of unnecessary complications.
Incredibly well put. Simplicity of direction is huge. Everyone wants to do better, but the methods aren’t always clear. When you have a simple goal, and know your motivation, you can feel accomplished that you put all you had to give, especially physically
"IF WE DIE, WE DIE WITH VENGEANCE ON OUR LIPS!"
FOR THE PRIMARCH! FOR THE EMPEROR!
"WE'LL HOLD THIS GROUND IN THE NAME OF PRIMARCH !!"
VENGEANCE
VENGEANCE!
VENGEANCE!
“Dying is easy young man, living is harder.” - George Washington (in Hamilton)
There is a saying in the Cyberpunk 2077.
"In Night City, it's not how you live, it's how you die."
I personally believe it too.
How you end something will always tie everything together.
Except we arent cyperpunk.
I disagree also. In order for the death tying everything together, it would mean that dead should come right time. Think about it. If you want to die like a hero, then you should get a heroic death, like shooting an enemy or saving your friends from doom or doing a sabotage that will effect positevely for you side somehow to battle. But dead do not come with a clock. Dead is random thing on a battlefield. Artillery doesn't see its target. It doesn't know who it will kill. Soldiers shoot the enemy that is right infront of you or try to survive. Snipers and drone users are a different thing. They can see better who they try to kill.
However in most cases death is random thing in a battlefield. Maybe you were send to frontline just as the same place was a target for an attack. Maybe you fell ill of all those deceases that plague battlefield and could not get nurse right in time. Maybe an accident where truck that transports you falls to the ground you get grushed. Reasons are many.
@@darkzeroprojects4245We’re cyberpunk without the cool tech
@@bagman1103
Not even close.
Shitty corporations, inflation and many homeless people, grueling street gang activities. We're just missing the tech and world war 3.@@darkzeroprojects4245
I appreciate this on a level I didn't think I would. I was born sickly, but dreamt of getting stronger. I used any and every tiny method I could in mundane life to improve my body, even though I'll never have stronger lungs than a habitual smoker. But funny enough, what really turned out to be the thing people around me needed/wanted from me, was my empathy. Everyone close to me appreciates me not as a Vegeta like my dad, or a Kratos like my cousin, or even a Sherlock Holmes like a friend of mine. They know me as the guy who always has an open door and a spare bed. And that makes me happier than I ever thought it would.
brother, it takes the same amount of power to wield a sword and to have a big heart for a neighbor
As a adude equally sickly from birth, I envy you! Please treasure the person you came to be and people have come to value! Because against all these 'glory in death' types you have one major advantage: You are still around to actually experience the positive impact you're making and the good you bring to people's lives!
You're a stronger person than any "go out in a blaze of glory" type.
We wanna die with honor because we’d amount to something for once, rather than watching others
As Lauryn Hill once said, “you said you’d die for me…why won’t you live for me?”
To which her husband replied “No, you misheard, I said I’d die FROM you, you goddamn lunatic!”
Yes! Much, MUCH harder to live for someone than to die for someone. Putting up with them day after day after day is more difficult than just being done with it.
@@EdisonSpaethIt kinda begs the question too. Who are the real lucky ones? The living? Or the dead?
Rarely get the luxury of choosing in life or death situations. You are simply choosing to not back down, understanding that it may mean certain death. Living after making that choice is a bonus, but not a thing you get to choose.
"Because they're one and the same."
The only thing man wants is to say..
"I am Rylanor of the Emperor's Children, Ancient of Rites, Venerable of the Palatine Host, and proud servant of the Emperor of Mankind, Beloved by all! I reject you now and always! TO STRIKE YOU DOWN, I HAVE WAITED MILLION NIGHTS!"
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FOR THE EMPEROR!
Rylanor deserves better than you. He's deserves better than all of us
oh the masculine urge to hopelessly defy your enemy out of sheer spite with the knowledge this is where you will die
For Super Earth
"Beneath Amon Hen I heard his cry. There, many foes he fought. His cloven shield, his broken sword, they to the river brought."
14:30 I disagree that "no man is able to reach these peak levels of masculinity" line.
That is an absolute statement that is proven wrong every time a war starts. There are dozens of books about individual soldiers, even a couple of women, on all sides of WW2 who accomplished great feats and even survived to talk about it afterwards.
Can every person do this? Statistically no but your life will have less meaning if you don't sincerely work to accomplish something difficult or, worthy of effort.
Then I hope you can live up to your word and see you in the battlefield alongside me brother.
Those days have come to a close. If the conflicts currently ongoing should have taught you anything its that faceless computer targeting systems and cheap expendable drone platforms are now "the new meta". Even more brutally the peak level of masculinity is arguably for sale now and it looks like a social media influencer sauced to the gills on gear lmao.
It's an overused quote but its honestly true. "“We’re the middle children of history, man. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War’s a spiritual war… our Great Depression is our lives."
Our great war is a proxy fight. Our great depression has been bailed out (twice) to keep 8o0mers and mega conglomerates from going under. You can go ahead and call me a doomer but the general statement of "accomplish something difficult" isn't well defined enough. To most that just means make enough money to insulate yourself from the nihilistic rat race the developed world is in.
Its also a spit in the face of every medal of honor recipient.
@@Usernamesdontmatter1 Even then anyone could get one of the work card enough
Y’all are so kringe lol
The idea is just fun . i feel like every atom in my body is secretly craving an end in a battle . idk why lol
'Someone kill me'
the righteous crave the halls of valhalla
You’re just edgy kid who lacks physical attributes day dreaming to compensate and most kids who comment here lol
@Breakfastststst its fine you can call all the warriors across history who most had this dream BTW" just edgy kids "
@@JackRippa-bq9qo you are edgy kid lol. Those warriors born in a era where that was their whole life and none of them dream of dying you’re just anime watching nerd with fantasies who can’t even throw a proper punch lol or been in a real fight or who would actually do something like become champion of something lol
John 15:13 says, "Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends": pretty good quote for the topic.
Jesus had BARS!
Nah fr tho, I was legit looking for someone to mention something related to Jesus and He most definitely came through on that desire!
Not gonna lie, this is the only verse in the Bible I have memorized verbatim. I thank the Texas A&M Corps of Cadets for that, but I actually really love this verse.
"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man may lay down his life for his friends." - John 15:13 (KJV)
@troybaxter My mind is literally just cool Old Testament quotes that need more context, Leviathan/Behemoth shadowed in the background of Job like anime villains and 20 years of confusion and concern for the utter insanity goes down in Revelations outside of the purely good things people fixate on.
The Bible be wild sometimes.
@@DeltafangEX indeed
Women: Men want one thing and it's disgusting
Men: I am one of the Emperor’s Children!
I am Rylanor and I am the Ancient of Rites!
So I reject you for now and for always!
To strike you down, I have waited for A MILLION NIGHTS.
Don't sully his name by adding chat to it. Rylanor deserved better than Fulgrim. He deserved better than all of us.
Go unload the dishwasher little bro
Yeah sex is cool and all but have you ever tried fighting and dying for your own ideals? - Rylanor to fulgrim probably.
Damn Rylanor was a badass. He stayed alive for so damn long, resisting decay and dementia just to get his final revenge, and you know what? He fucking got it. Immortal or not, Fulgrim’s ass got blasted.
Khorne rewards these type of men, to those whose glory echoes in the aftermath of their final stands
That’s why Musashi’s life is in a way a tragedy, he never received a “good” death. A lifetime of warfare, 62 - 0 on duels to the death, only two die old and alone in a cave from cancer. He died upright with a sword in his hand.
“Spartans don’t die just missing in action.”
This has always been a dumb quote to me. Spartans die, and the UNSC is getting its ass kicked so badly by the Covenant it just refuses to acknowledge these deaths officially because humanity is about to go extinct and we need to believe in SOMETHING that can turn things around. Clearly, the thoughts and prayers and MAC guns aren't doing a good enough job.
Because men would rather have something to die for, than nothing to live for.
I think this is also contributing to the massive male loneliness and mental health crisis and the rise of incels, of whom many are fascists
then perhaps they should spend more time looking for reasons to live?
@@kinsleycow148 Why? The moment you find something, it'll be pulled away. If you die for something, no one can take that from you.
@@Triaxx2sorry but who tf is taking away ur cheesecake?
@TristenKnibb-hx4xj Cheesecake is nice and all but reason to live is a bit strong.
This is one of my favorite video essays on TH-cam and happy to have found your channel through it, keep up the good work and hope you are successful with the content and work you make 👏
The answer is purpose. Throwing everything we have into something we believe is worth dying for. It's the spark that drives us as men in our darkest hour. When we lack that purpose, that spark, we self delete.
We just want to matter. We want our lives to mean something. To give ourselves to something greater than ourselves. I think it's the core of that mentality that's ultimately gotten all of humanity this far. A desire for something more. Something we can believe in. And anything worth dying for is something worth believing in.
Inspiring yet sad people have to give themselves a second chance to live on.
Unfortunately, we do all that only to be forgotten throughout the years.
As Lex Luthor said in Justice League Unlimited, "Not even the best of us can compete with time.".
Why did you write this comment as if you’re at war fighting at the edge of death and sacrificing your self ? While in reality you never had one fight in your life or can fight at all or done anything that is significant lol
@@Breakfaststststyou can’t read. You should be ashamed of yourself and have a bad day.
Your very distinct style of "I'm gonna mash together styles and clips from the essayists I like" Is honestly really charming. 9/10 video, I appreciate the mic quality a lot.
This video honestly made my day. Basically compiles a lot of our thoughts into one. Thank you man.
Self sacrifice feels the most desirable when it's done protecting someone. It gives a sense of purpose, at least to me
Imagine for a moment, sacrificing yourself, perpetuates war. Everyone sacrificing themself to protect people? They all go without people. Now everyones alone.
@@mimszanadunstedt441I don't think you made your point as well as you thought you did.
@@mimszanadunstedt441 Dude, if everyone was willing to sacrifice themselves for their loved ones we'd probably see less war going on unless it was something as bad as cases like the Axis powers. Because then, both sides will be more likely to not want to fight because they know the other side would only be sacrificing themselves for the people they care about back home.
Because at the end of the day, to sacrifice yourself is to love another, and 9 times out of 10, love comes with empathy. War is usually only capable of being perpetuated by a lack of it (Because look at the Christmas Truce, it required a lack of empathy from the leadership to get the entirety of that to be squashed out. Solely because they wanted to keep fighting to win)
Sometimes when I don’t want to go to work, I watch the charge of the rohirrim to get the inspiration I need to keep going
Dude, fantastic video. It’s a final act of desperation attempting to establish a meaning. The urge to die heroically leads to a fixation on the end of the road, and takes our focus away from journey there which ultimately is where our focus should be. The last stand is final. It’s absolute. The journey is unknown, messy, dynamic. It’s easier to reduce our stresses into, “if I just die right,” vs, “if I have to live right,” it’s much too idillic of an end which preys on our urge to prove our worth in a single, grand showing rather than through millions of mundane choices we make daily.
Love your commentary, just earned a sub!
yeah, dying es easy...living is harder...something like that, no?
Men in modern times don't die for a cause anymore because they don't HAVE to. And that's a good thing. It makes the sacrifices of our ancestors not in vain.
actually based take.
let us remind ourselves that, what we call our "today", is held in pillars of blood. Let us think on how many of our forefathers gave the most precious thing they had, their lives, so we could have a future where we didn't have to give up our most precious thing we have now.
_don't come with your whataboutisms, i understand not everyone has the same luck as many of us_
Its getting to a point were we will have to fight and hopefully give our next generations a better life.
Until everyone became purposeless and many couldn't take it and decided to go for the high score in the tide pod challenge
...as long as you live in a first-world country, that is. There are men dying in countless wars all over the globe right now for the interests of their leaders.
That's the tragedy of it all, isn't it? So many men have this burning desire to prove themselves, to show they are worthy of societal acceptance and love. And yet, every time I talk to a veteran, someone whose seen the horrors of war, the way they avoid talking about it, the way they get quiet when the conflict is mentioned, it all tells me the same message: this glory is not worth it. It's the lie we've been told for nearly all of human history. This society that has deemed men only worthy by their ability to provide and protect has also conditioned us to believe we are disposable. The dead have no need for honor, and the families they leave behind would sooner their father, their brother, their husband back.
And yeah, someone's got to fight the battle. There will always be evil to rise up against in the world. As long as two people are alive, someone is going to want someone dead.
So how do men prove their worth to this society? What opportunities do they get to show they are worth accepting? Kindness and courage are expected givens, the bare minimum in a person. Anything else is considered not worth drawing attention to at all.
I wouldn't know the answer. If we did, I think men wouldn't feel this way. But I try not to take the boring, peaceful days for granted anymore. There may not be any honor in dying for another man's lie, but I can at least make sure the men who came before me, who sacrificed their very lives for the chance to be something, can rest knowing I live a better life because of their efforts. And let's work for a future where that will never have to happen again.
A 35 minute video when we know the answer is that it's just cool
I dont want to die to take down the enemy, i want to live to take down the enemy. I think the cool thing about all these characters in fiction is not that they are willing to risk their lives, but that they are doing everything they possibly can to live and defeat their enemies.
I honestly think that one of the coolest things ever is doing everything you can to live, giving it your all.
This mindset applies to other things aswell.
I understand the appeal, but this fascination leads to self destruction. I believe in Patton's line, "Make the other poor bastard die for his country."
If your death comes, it comes and you die a hero. But you should strive to win and survive and become legend.
I believe that too. I always tell my soldiers the same thing.
Yeah. You shouldn’t go seeking it out, but if it happens, so be it. But if it becomes inevitable or absolutely necessary for the survival of others then make that stand.
Well that's the goal. But victory requires sacrifice. No real war is won without someone losing and when the enemy wants everything then everyone will have to pay something.
@@adarkwind4712no war would exist had humanity been better than animals. At the end of the day we’re no different from our predecessors only more resourceful but the same instincts and ideas remain like festering sores on a heel.
@TristenKnibb-hx4xj 😆 ok edgelord.
Listen, I don't want to die, buuuuuut, me taking my final stand in a losing battle where I know I'm not walking away from? Yes please.
"If everyone has to die sometime, at least I can make mine matter."
Space Marine 2 Banner scene.
The manly urge to keep the colors flying to the bitter end
Want another example? Look at Los Ninos Neroes. 6 kids defending the last Castle in Mexico to the end and taking the banners with them off the side of a cliff than let their enemies claim it.
Because if the last thing you ever do is something important, it gives every mundane moment before that end meaning. You lived your life to finish something greater than yourself.
I like to think that Kratos would love ice cream
the masculine urge to eat corn
"How can man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his gods?"
At a ripe old age, having lived a good life.
"If you have nothing worth dying for, you have nothing worth living for"
-some rando on the Internet
POV in For Honor when I'd hold off three separate heros waiting for the rest of my team to respond as a Warden
That was peak For Honor
Lmao enemy fed revenge
Real and true, except I think I might have pulled this off more often with Conq and BP.
@mortarion9813 that was back when each faction only had four heros. When after every fight, you say gg
Not any more.
I'm begging to love the Conquer
Maybe i'd rather die like Johnny Silverhand than be a corporate slave for a merchant overlord.
Maybe our current world is shiet and deep down, we know we should do something, but we've been so domesticated that we feel empty.
Let's go
Thank you, i needed this. Keep it up, mate. You have something worth listening to. Kudos to you.
The fantasy of dying in battle goes so hard. Because in the seconds before and after, you and everyone next to you are the most important you can possibly be to each other.
The idea of dying a pointless death feels euphoric compared to living a pointless life.
It's very simple, it's a death worth being lived. You're fighting for someone as your last act. Not dying in some hospital, not getting stabbed in some alley, not dying in some unmarked grave after a life doing the most boring office job. You're dying as a warrior, fighting to the death for something you believe in so much that you're willing to dedicate your final acts to it. It's epic, it's history being made, history of humanity, an universal show of determination and human spirit.
I think the idea of it being the final chapter in a story is why its so big. Like its not just one moment, its every moment that brought the character to that final moment. The end of a life could be seen as its culmination. Finally, this is it, your life in full. The final stand just takes that up higher than the somber final moment of a peaceful death. A death that could be added as an epilogue to a game is less exciting than a death that would feature as a cut scene during the fun part.
This reminds me of the Viking that fought in battle to make it into Valhalla but was buried in the ways of Christianity making his efforts for naught.
Edit: Forgot to mention it was an animation and didn’t factcheck the accuracy. Thanks for the update.
Vikings did both when chistianity was first introduced in the north.
They were polytheist so betting on several horses, was quite normal.
You and apparently this TH-camr don’t know how religious integration works. Or has worked in the past.
Thats not how that works. The burial is irrelevant. He will still go to Valhalla. In a norse poem King Haakon the good was a christian but he ended up in Valhalla anyway.
You guys are missing the point of the story...
@@thepowerofsand6180 no no, we get it, we just have additional knownledge to add.
It's not like it ruins the original.
Hey man, just wanted to say your title was so fire I downloaded your video and listened to it while at work and it basically irrevocably changed the way I think about myself. Many thanks for the wisdom and I'm glad the vid got recommended
My therapist once told me when i explained to him that i can't leave something and person behind:
"You think you are only worth it, if you suffer don't you?"
And that was... a slap that opened my eyes
I don't need to suffer to be worth anything
I need to find worth in what i am doing
About the world i fantasies about
Its mostly a world like STALKER or Metro 2033
Because i don't wanna die in it, but i wanna be the one that goes to the front, that does what need to be done, when all are afraid and turn back. Moving forward, where all stopped. (Its need to be said, i am a coward. I face some of my fears but i would not say i am a especially brave)
And finally about the final samurai
I started this year to train swordfighting/japanese warcraft. Its from an old school, that dates back around 400 years(?) and if my sensei doesn't screw me, the longest still teaching without a period where there was none.
And the important stuff i learnt isn't how to swing my sword and slice up shit. Its that my sword is just a tool. That to be a warrior doesn't mean to be a fighter, but to live for others and be a lighthouse in the storm.
Am i there yet? FUCK NO! I am only one year into this school, but everytime i listen to my Sensei, i realize that, i have so much to learn.
I am not gonna tell you know "i am a warrior" or "i am a master of warcraft"
Because the gods know, i am just on my way to... what ever i am!
(I just realized this is gonna be a yap session but... eh)
I talked with a fellow trainee of that school and i told him, that when i started, that i never saw myself as a fighter/warrior... more of a storyteller or maybe writer
But warrior is not a job or a thing that excludes other things
Its a choice to life and always try to find a way.
We get teached that we need to hold our sword in the sheet UNTIL, there is no other way
Anyway, i written to much
Greetings from some random
Dude
I wish to die in battle like future gohan too. (Head in water included) 😂
A last stand many don’t know about is of MSgt John Chapman, he’s the reason I joined the airforce and in training to become a combat controller, he stood against a ton of taliban on a snowy mountain wiping out their dugouts with machine guns and etc, all alone, to find a navy seal who had been taken to a bunker at the top of the mountain, he died fighting to find a brother in arms. And didn’t flee unlike some of the seals that were with him on that mission.
Girl here.
I want to die on my feet because i want my body to give out before my will does.
Ride down from Asgard to the battlefield.
Bringer of the valiant dead.
Who died but never yielded.
Ur partner shall have a fantastic warrior by their side ❤️
Being able to bench 325 and provide for my family is an amazing feeling, the realized fantasy of coming home from a long shitty shift to my kiddos screaming daddy and my wife giving me a warm hug is amazing and I could roll credits at any moment in that.... but also dying while my family makes it to safety while I fight off hordes of whatever sounds amazing also.
That’s what I’m striving for bro
A man’s true dream. To be able to provide and protect his family.
Do some reading up on Uji Bridge around 1180. A group of ~2000 monks with some allied samurai tore up the boards on the bridge and held off a force of 25,000 for almost a full day. It was written afterwards that the bodies of the drowned looked like autumn leaves clogging forest streams.
A little addendum-one of the warriors on the bridge called put “all of you who call yourselves warriors come to me and fight.” Metal af.
One of those monks whirled his glaive like a propeller to block arrows being shot at him. He was nicknamed "Tajima", the arrow-cutter, ever since.
Society and media taught us that it's really fucking cool. That is why.
"I lost interest when the numbers became too high for me to count on my fingers. We will fight and win, or fight and die. All that ever changes is the color of the sky we fight under, and the shade of the blood on our blades." -Arterion of Squad Grimaldus, Black Templar Sword-Brother of the Helsreach Crusade
I think the last stand is a form of glory lot of guys go for that. There's also the fear of surviving a final stand but seeing your people fallen.
I've learned how to be authentic to my values regardless of whether society deems my attitude, behaviour, or values as unmanly or childish from a very young age (10-12). I've never been depressed and overall I feel like I'm the opposite of the men you're talking about and trying to reach as the target audience as I've already had my vagabond Musashi moment like 10+ years ago. Coming from that perspective I think you really hit the nail on this video. You were able to describe the potential root cause behind the obsession which is really dope cause it helps me think about something that i potentially struggled with during the first half of my life. Something old and hard to remember. Sometimes I have friends (both sides) ask how i became what I am today in order to help them understand the men in their lives or themselves. This video is great at doing that.
Nonetheless, I still imagine myself dying depressingly in an empty hillside full of untouched snow on my way to my girl. Littering the the white snow with a tinge of bright red because its such a powerful and poignant aesthetic.
That masterchief speech was metal, wtf
26:08 The switching from hyper anime guy to Spectacular Spider-Man is just peak illustration of the balance, because yes, Spider-Man is strong, but the focus is never on his strengths. It's on how he can use everything he has to help people who need him.
26:34 it’s not the idea that we must prove ourselves as men which is broken. It’s the standards we set for that proof which tend to be misaligned.
The last stand is one of the few ways we have to die while knowing our efforts won't be in vain
One hopes anyway. Plenty of last stands don’t buy enough time =\
@@DefaultProphetyup, it's just that you know you did your best. You keep saying "just a little more time, just 1 more enemy" till you collapse there is literally nothing more you can do and that's the pride of it. That you didn't cower in fear, that you gave it your all till the last breath.
That was one of the best videos on this topic that I have ever seen. Keep up the good work!
Shiroyama is an amazing song about Shiroyama. The last stand of the samurai. Sabaton are an amazing band.
“It is a fundamental quality of man, that when faced with extinction, every alternative is preferable”
You ever wonder why we're here?
@ i suppose its still one of life’s great mysteries.