Yes, just watched Missenden Flyer wax lyrical over a MV in the sub litre adv bike class. At over 20k can it justify more than double the price of Voge 900 even if its made of Chineseum. I'll stick with my trusty Tiger 955i.
@@roadwarrior8560 for sure, if you want to ride it hard n rough for a short time it's a winner. Also, someone like Shaun that changes bikes often, longevity ain't a problem. However I'm on my 3rd bike since 2000. They were nearly new, brand new and not at all new.
Yep it’s as good as they say, it’s had excellent reviews in Spain where it was released earlier this year,for what you get as standard for the price it’s pretty amazing and will definitely hit much more expensive manufacturers where it hurts. Be very interesting to see if Voge stand the test of time a few years down the line.
I was like you couldn’t understand keyless until i bought a bike with it, i fitted a quarter turn fuel cap and it was a game changer! I put my key in my zip pocket in the house and dont take it back out until im back in the house after the ride so dont have any opportunity to loose the key i am absolutely sold
Yeah my 1250gs was keyless and i get what your saying as that's literally the only selling point .. u still have to press the button where the ignition is so just put the key in
Gotta be honest pal I've rode a few d9fferent 900 bmw variants and the bmw engine does feel more grunty so maybe it's down to gearing or maybe different internals
Quick but thorough, nice one Sean, bargain of the year. When the GS goes that could very well be the replacement and perhaps save enough for something else. Cheers mate 👍
That’s good news… that bike might sell a lot more than ppl think. She might be on view at NEC next month. Will be there and hopefully get a good proper eyeball on it…
Love my Pinlock but if you haven't got one a little bullet of BluTack pushed into the helmet cut out for the visor keeps it open a fraction, just enough to keep it clear without freezing you.
There is a 4.4 ecu upgrade flash which appears to make the bike throttle and quick shift night and day different, it's not official voge but appears to be a cfmoto flash because they both use the same bosch system 😉
@mjs.910 had a 1998 tl1000s, and my god, what an engine, grunt to burn from from the lights, all though the gears ..I believe the v strom had a similar engine..be hard pushed to find another bike with that much torque, for the money I think..absolute beast..👍
Loncin build that engine, and have been in partnership with BMW to build engines for 20 years and perticularly the f850gs and the 900 engine, so pretty sure it will be good 😊
It's such a well speced bike it's hard to ignore, the only thing we have to see is how it stands up to winter weather and how good the dealer network and spare parts availability will be but if they do all that as good as they have produced this bike then I think Voge will be a roaring success. Looks far better than the Bmw and far better built than the cfmoto.
@@TinsonTour I've just traded myz1000sx in for one.loved the sx but totally prefer the seating position straight away love it but only had it 2days not chance to have a good ride out
@@TinsonTour I really like the way they have switches to control things like heated grips/seat etc, on the cfmoto you have to scroll through menus on the screen. The key for the petrol tank is good because there have been problems with the keyless fuel caps on other bikes, I'd prefer to just use the key in the ignition too, that way you can't forget it!
Niz video and info Shaun…..proper good info guy. Quick shifter appears lil clumpy but am sure there’s a lotta bike for you buck…. They all seem to be chasing up on da GS bikes for years, they are getting close but just can’t seem to get the bikes as smooth as da good old GS. Some amount of techy on it for bike of its asking price.
Hey Shaun. Great vid mate. I’m all up for the Chinese bikes! Unfortunately there’s the same bike (used) in my local Honda dealers, for 6k, 2k miles. Apparently none of the other (buyers) dealers will touch it. I hear the problem is parts supply. Hopefully it’s glitch and gets sorted soon.👍🏻
@benkelly2190 only 1k loss then that's pretty standard for any used bike plus why would it go to a honda dealer when @motogb have dealers all over the country
If you want a bike that size, difficult to justify paying more. It's good to go. Pack your passpirt, panniers and gead for the horizon. Nice one. Ride safe 👍
Nah , not for me Shaun, think the Benelli 702 has the better design,and looks the dogs, and has a bigger road presence, says me, who's looking at changing my Benelli 502c for a 2013 R1200 rt ...you've gone from Beemer to italian and i'm going the opposite bloody way..well i am coming up 62 , ..gotta be done..great vlog..all the best...👍👍
I hope so m8, we all take a chance, when buying something new or used..but that's life..cheers for the reply..hope your health is all going in the right direction..top man and lady..👊👊
Traded the VOGE 650 at 2 1/2 years old for the 900. Scrubbed up very well indeed, little if any rust having ridden it throughout the seasons and the p/x at a VOGE dealer was surprisingly generous. That bike was fantastic fun, with the 19” front wheel you really could push it in the twisties, more so than the 900 and I changed because of the quality engineering. Nothing failed on the 650…nothing! No doubt, the 900 will be just as good
Hi Shaun, Great test ride, you seem very happy the way it handled looks a pretty decent bike may be one for the shopping list. Great video catch you soon Take care
Hi Shaun, looks like a decent bike but i have to say not my style. IMO do we really need all this info nowadays ??? I am as you can tell old school, as long as there is fuel and turning indicators, lights on etc that's all i need. For me it all seems that they are just adding all this tech to sell bikes, and we all know what lots of electrics do they cause umpteen problems as we know this from using cars with all fancy buttons. In years to come you will be able to get on the bike press a button and it will take you to where you need to go without you having to do anything. God forbid !!!!!
Same frame as you I’m not really into Tech! And why is the Buzz about these Chinese 🇨🇳 bikes 🤷🏻 there just copies of Ktm, BMW, T7 etc Cheap & Cheerfull and fall to bits in 12-18 months
These days they don't though do they as i know 1st hand ... I wouldn't buy 1 of these but it's got KYB suspension , BMW (Loncin) engine , Bosch electronics etc suppose time will tell
Traded the VOGE 650 at 2 1/2 years old, ridden through all four seasons, little if any rust and nothing had failed. I traded up to the 900 on the engineering quality of the 650 and having stripped the bike and greased where grease should be I remain impressed. Had BMW’s since Moses was a lad, from the R100’s right through to the last air cooled 1200 and had three gearboxes in the R1100 and one in the 1150 GS. Also had a few Honda, KTM and Husqvarna bikes. VOGE is as good as anything out there. I can also remember the Honda invading the UK market and how we scoffed…but not for long. I speak from experience, can you say the same? We run forestry machinery and have our own workshop for repairs and servicing and on that basis not exactly an amateur when it comes to bashing a spanner.
@@TinsonTour a lot of good reviews on them ... problem is the residual value after a couple of years.... probably a good deal you plan to keep it 5+ years.
This is what the bike market needed - someone to come in and set some more realistic prices. Good job Voge!
Yeah some of the adventure market prices are getting obscene
Yes, just watched Missenden Flyer wax lyrical over a MV in the sub litre adv bike class. At over 20k can it justify more than double the price of Voge 900 even if its made of Chineseum. I'll stick with my trusty Tiger 955i.
@@russcattell955i Most things are made in China now. This bike looks like a winner.
@@roadwarrior8560 for sure, if you want to ride it hard n rough for a short time it's a winner. Also, someone like Shaun that changes bikes often, longevity ain't a problem. However I'm on my 3rd bike since 2000. They were nearly new, brand new and not at all new.
Good to down to earth reviews 😊
I hope you are both ok. It’s been a wee while since we’ve (I’ve) heard or saw anything from you.
Yep it’s as good as they say, it’s had excellent reviews in Spain where it was released earlier this year,for what you get as standard for the price it’s pretty amazing and will definitely hit much more expensive manufacturers where it hurts. Be very interesting to see if Voge stand the test of time a few years down the line.
Yes absolutely agree it's all about long term quality and dealer support
I was like you couldn’t understand keyless until i bought a bike with it, i fitted a quarter turn fuel cap and it was a game changer! I put my key in my zip pocket in the house and dont take it back out until im back in the house after the ride so dont have any opportunity to loose the key i am absolutely sold
Yeah my 1250gs was keyless and i get what your saying as that's literally the only selling point .. u still have to press the button where the ignition is so just put the key in
Great review. I own a BMW F900R and I'm surprised how voge is suggesting dropping the gears - my BMW wants me to go 20mph in 6th 😅
Gotta be honest pal I've rode a few d9fferent 900 bmw variants and the bmw engine does feel more grunty so maybe it's down to gearing or maybe different internals
Quick but thorough, nice one Sean, bargain of the year. When the GS goes that could very well be the replacement and perhaps save enough for something else. Cheers mate 👍
My GS went months ago pal 👍🏍
@@TinsonTour I know Sean, I was talking about mine 😆
I traded my 2018 GSA TE for the voge 900 last month, no regrets at all!
That’s good news… that bike might sell a lot more than ppl think.
She might be on view at NEC next month. Will be there and hopefully get a good proper eyeball on it…
Love my Pinlock but if you haven't got one a little bullet of BluTack pushed into the helmet cut out for the visor keeps it open a fraction, just enough to keep it clear without freezing you.
My visor on all 3 lids stays popped open enough but still mists up , can't beat a pinlock
It's a beast of a bike, Ive owned it for 6 months. You should have tried Sports mode, it goes like a scolded cat
Yeah I've rode all the variants of the BMW version and agreed it goes proper well 👍🏍
@@TinsonTour where are you from buddy, the accent is very familiar. I was born in Warrington, but grew up in Wigan, before moving to N Wales .
@@motechRevolution from not so sunny Sthelens pal
@@TinsonTour thought it would be in that triangle Wigan, Warrington, St Helens. Ride safe buddy✌🏻
There is a 4.4 ecu upgrade flash which appears to make the bike throttle and quick shift night and day different, it's not official voge but appears to be a cfmoto flash because they both use the same bosch system 😉
Yeah just had the Benelli flashed it's made a mega difference although most modern bikes could benefit from an ecu flash or some dyno time 👍
Their's a huge chance this will be my next bike, should I part with my Vstrom. Crackin vid, nice 1. 👍🏍️👍
Tbh can't go wrong with it
@mjs.910 had a 1998 tl1000s, and my god, what an engine, grunt to burn from from the lights, all though the gears ..I believe the v strom had a similar engine..be hard pushed to find another bike with that much torque, for the money I think..absolute beast..👍
Loncin build that engine, and have been in partnership with BMW to build engines for 20 years and perticularly the f850gs and the 900 engine, so pretty sure it will be good 😊
Yeah i said that in the vid although it still isn't enough to sway some people
It's such a well speced bike it's hard to ignore, the only thing we have to see is how it stands up to winter weather and how good the dealer network and spare parts availability will be but if they do all that as good as they have produced this bike then I think Voge will be a roaring success.
Looks far better than the Bmw and far better built than the cfmoto.
Dealer network is really good so as long as it turns out to be as reliable as the bmw it should be a winner
@@TinsonTour I've just traded myz1000sx in for one.loved the sx but totally prefer the seating position straight away love it but only had it 2days not chance to have a good ride out
@@TinsonTour I really like the way they have switches to control things like heated grips/seat etc, on the cfmoto you have to scroll through menus on the screen.
The key for the petrol tank is good because there have been problems with the keyless fuel caps on other bikes, I'd prefer to just use the key in the ignition too, that way you can't forget it!
Well, I have it stands up to the British winter better than my £21k 1250 GS!
Niz video and info Shaun…..proper good info guy. Quick shifter appears lil clumpy but am sure there’s a lotta bike for you buck…. They all seem to be chasing up on da GS bikes for years, they are getting close but just can’t seem to get the bikes as smooth as da good old GS. Some amount of techy on it for bike of its asking price.
Yeah it's a cracking value bike and apparently the new software update irons the shifters smoothness and a few other bits out 👍🏍
Hey Shaun. Great vid mate. I’m all up for the Chinese bikes! Unfortunately there’s the same bike (used) in my local Honda dealers, for 6k, 2k miles. Apparently none of the other (buyers) dealers will touch it. I hear the problem is parts supply. Hopefully it’s glitch and gets sorted soon.👍🏻
Have u got a link to that bike as 3.2k loss in 3months seems harsh
@@TinsonTour I’ve checked again, it’s on for £7995! So pretty close.
@benkelly2190 only 1k loss then that's pretty standard for any used bike plus why would it go to a honda dealer when @motogb have dealers all over the country
@@TinsonTour part ex’d for a Honda.
@benkelly2190 pretty sure if Honda would part ex it most dealers would apart from BMW for the obvious
If you want a bike that size, difficult to justify paying more. It's good to go. Pack your passpirt, panniers and gead for the horizon.
Nice one.
Ride safe 👍
Yeah no getting away from the tempting price if that's the sort of bike u want
Try the voge 300 rally. super little fun bike.
I've had mine about 3 weeks now and nothing resets after you start it up again it must need a update the 4.4 update ironed alot of niggling bits
Good review cheers, Looks awesome for the money !
Yeah hard to ignore for that money 💰
Excellent value for money 👍
Is this the same bike as CFMOTO
If so they have been around a while in Oz and i have heard nothing but great reviews
No this uses the bmw f900 platform and motor whereas the cfmoto uses ktm parts
@@TinsonTour thanks for that
Very similar
Nah , not for me Shaun, think the Benelli 702 has the better design,and looks the dogs, and has a bigger road presence, says me, who's looking at changing my Benelli 502c for a 2013 R1200 rt ...you've gone from Beemer to italian and i'm going the opposite bloody way..well i am coming up 62 , ..gotta be done..great vlog..all the best...👍👍
Haha tbh think im probably done with bmw's now but can't really go wrong with an RT
I hope so m8, we all take a chance, when buying something new or used..but that's life..cheers for the reply..hope your health is all going in the right direction..top man and lady..👊👊
So Sean, what do you like best, Voge or Benelli ? I just wonder how these bikes will cope with winter weather.
Different category bikes so not really comparable but both should be fine as the Benelli 502 has been out for years with no problems
Traded the VOGE 650 at 2 1/2 years old for the 900. Scrubbed up very well indeed, little if any rust having ridden it throughout the seasons and the p/x at a VOGE dealer was surprisingly generous. That bike was fantastic fun, with the 19” front wheel you really could push it in the twisties, more so than the 900 and I changed because of the quality engineering. Nothing failed on the 650…nothing!
No doubt, the 900 will be just as good
Can you test ride a Benelli 502c, we are roughly the same size so I'd like to know your take on it.
Haha funny u should mention that 👍🏍
Tidy. Quick question, is your benelli a bit jerky going slow or over bumps. Just bought a 702 and mine is.
Cheers
Pug
Yes it used to be but can and map and it's smooth as silk now and pushing virtually 80bhp
Thanks Dude
How does it compare to the trk702
Completely different category of bikes and engine size but apart from the tech not a great deal in in
What was the verdict.
A yes/ or a no.
For the price a defo yes ... hard to fault but still very early days
@@TinsonTour they seem superb value for the money..
Hi Shaun, Great test ride, you seem very happy the way it handled looks a pretty decent bike may be one for the shopping list. Great video catch you soon Take care
Yeah tbh there wasn't much not to like about it 👍🏍
Distracting all those electrics. If they'd make this bike w'out all that stuff i'd be well up for it.
Yeah I'm pretty much the same although that heated seat was a nice surprise
Autumn in the uk looks lovely, the browns and reds of the leaves!
Yeah agreed the colours are beautiful although slippy under tyre 🤣
Hi Shaun, looks like a decent bike but i have to say not my style. IMO do we really need all this info nowadays ??? I am as you can tell old school, as long as there is fuel and turning indicators, lights on etc that's all i need. For me it all seems that they are just adding all this tech to sell bikes, and we all know what lots of electrics do they cause umpteen problems as we know this from using cars with all fancy buttons. In years to come you will be able to get on the bike press a button and it will take you to where you need to go without you having to do anything. God forbid !!!!!
Yeah getting a bit crazy now and gotta be honest i don't really touch any of it but loads out there love all the bells and whistles
Same frame as you I’m not really into Tech! And why is the Buzz about these Chinese 🇨🇳 bikes 🤷🏻 there just copies of Ktm, BMW, T7 etc Cheap & Cheerfull and fall to bits in 12-18 months
These days they don't though do they as i know 1st hand ... I wouldn't buy 1 of these but it's got KYB suspension , BMW (Loncin) engine , Bosch electronics etc suppose time will tell
Traded the VOGE 650 at 2 1/2 years old, ridden through all four seasons, little if any rust and nothing had failed. I traded up to the 900 on the engineering quality of the 650 and having stripped the bike and greased where grease should be I remain impressed.
Had BMW’s since Moses was a lad, from the R100’s right through to the last air cooled 1200 and had three gearboxes in the R1100 and one in the 1150 GS. Also had a few Honda, KTM and Husqvarna bikes. VOGE is as good as anything out there. I can also remember the Honda invading the UK market and how we scoffed…but not for long. I speak from experience, can you say the same?
We run forestry machinery and have our own workshop for repairs and servicing and on that basis not exactly an amateur when it comes to bashing a spanner.
A Chinese copy of the BMW GS 900.....but several grand cheaper.
Yeah thing is it's an alternative not a copy ... always nice seeing decent new sub 10k bikes 👍
@@TinsonTour a lot of good reviews on them ... problem is the residual value after a couple of years.... probably a good deal you plan to keep it 5+ years.
half the price at least of a similar specd Bmw, no brainer whatever the residuals will be.