I’m lucky that Amy has a the time to come and ride with me, it normally cost me a lunch somewhere, but she’s a great help with the camera. It’s important to show the pillion perspective on this type of bike. Thanks for the comment 👍🏍️💨💨💨
@ thanks for watching, I’ve not seen the TMF review il take a look. Over time will be the test with these bikes but so far they’ve come a long way, they can only get better and better. 👍
@@thatbikersimon yes, you need to use the Voge app and connect to the bikes wifi hotspot which should begin with MT…. Then you can view recordings and save them etc. But I’ve fitted an Aoocci C6 Pro CarPlay unit to mine together with the front and rear cameras so use those instead as easier to view, not that I’ve ever had cameras on a bike before .
I've had mine 2weeks done 1100 miles and its getting smoother all the time. Quickshifter is very smooth brakes fantastic i am struggling to find a fault cruise works fantastic
Seen loads of reviews of this bike from some fairly high-profile channels, but no one's shown the actual bike anywhere near as well as you have. Good work sir. It's definitely got BMW vibes. Lotta bike for the money!
Thanks Martin, from the feedback im receiving there’s a update for the fueling, over time im sure any little issue will be resolved, but as far as these bikes go its a good spec bike that’s affordable. 🏍️💨💨💨💨
That’s great, BMW are well established and great bikes. I think you’ll start to see more of Voge it’s got a good range of bikes now, that suits a smaller budget.
Good review. I’m pretty sure the seat heating is one piece so pillion too. I’ve fitted taller screen, bar risers and GPS mount, all from Uncle Wang website . Also fitted Aoocci C6 CarPlay unit . Great bike !
I’ve been hearing about Uncle wangs website, il check it out. Sounds like you’ve got a great set up. It’s wicked there’s so many options for upgrading parts, I’m sure anyone reading thses comments will be interested in that.
Hi Simon, and Amy B wow. What a piece of machinery got everything camera, and heaps of usb looks a fantastic white and for the money I think it’s fantastic. I’m still got the same motor as the BMW that’ll be fantastic motor anyway keep up the good work guys always enjoy the videos Cliff from Logan City, Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺 I’m on the big island 🏝️
Cheers Ian, the Chinese bikes are getting better and better, which I know some people aren’t happy about but the reality is there making a competitive market so bike are better quality and more affordable.
Saw it in the NEC at the show and was very impressed....sounds great value there but I saw it's being offered here now at €13,950. Although compared to other bikes it's cheaper than more of it's ilk but 4:44 the exchange rate between € and £ makes it look worse
Very beautiful bike All in Spain drive this bike And very soon all Europe The BMW R 1250 is going down The Royal enfield himalayan 450 and Voge 900 DS is the future Beautiful with strong engine and very cheap I'm getting this bike
@@thatbikersimon In the summer I met a guy who bought a Voge SR 4 Max through an online dealer and he told me, that he had some problems getting a 1000 kilometer warranty service from a workshop. That couldn't dampen his enjoyment of the well-equipped scooter, which is far cheaper than the almost identical BMW 400.
Well what they’ve done so far is very interesting, creating affordable bikes is the first hurdle, which they’ve done. Over time people will decide if its for them. It’s been a changing world in the motorcycle industry and this is probably what was needed to level thing out. 👍🏍️💨💨💨💨
Not sure why anyone would want a quick shifter? Changing gear without electronic intervention is part of the fun of riding i think .Im also not a fan of riding modes just because they add complexity but its all moving towards dealer-servicing only so each to their own ..otherwise its a nice bike but without the quick shifter, the riding modes and the radar & the other Tech, the bike might have been 7.5K and at that price, it may have been a contender to replace my TDM900, which is all the better for not having all the unnecessary bits that ( reduce imho) riding pleasure and dull riding skills..That said, its a major step forward in bringing affordable fun to a wider audience!
Honest Simon I think these bikes are going to get better and better aka Japanese took over the British bike industry overnight due to alleged complacency !! Would be great if you could Contact Bryan from Moto GB and review a few of the bikes they import as your reviews are without question comprehensive and very very good 👏cheers ian
If your a label snob don't even comment.i have this bike and even the little shitty things like stand and switches are all total bollocks as there fine and not an issue.its every bit as good as the BMW and even looks better. It's definitely not going to loose£6000 in it's first 6 months like all yr well know makes that is for sure
Hi, You are one of the very few TH-camrs who include your pillion partner in your videos. Is it possible to get more input from her on what she thinks of the bikes? Many of your viewers will be men, like me, who wouldn’t make a major purchase such as a new motorcycle purchase without the agreement of their partners. If you could persuade your good lady to comment on the pillion experience, this would be very useful.
Hi, on these bikes, you have to be in sports mode then hold the button down for 3 seconds, that gives you 'enduro' mode. It's to stop the rider accidentally turning the ABS off. Sorry I'm not being a##hole just though it important to anyone considering one of these. I wouldn't have bought mine if it didnt have enduro mode, even on the lightest of off road you've got to turn off the traction control or you can't get anywhere, as is the case with most bike's. Hope I haven't offended, we enjoy your content. Cheers James @thatbikersimon
@ thanks James, I really appreciate the feedback, it’s funny because initially I wrote down 4 modes but couldn’t find the enduro mode, I never would of guessed you needed to hold the button down, so that’s great to know. I always find these things out after the video goes lol 😂. I’ve got the bike for a coupe of weeks so il have another play and maybe do a TH-cam short of that 👍 cheers buddy
@@thatbikersimon Enduro Mode is 'Hidden' because it's disabling the traction control and rear ABS - Only the front ABS remain 'on' for safety reasons. It's the Only mode that can't be selected on the move, however - should you stall the engine when Enduro Mode is selected the bike remembers that you're in this mode so you don't have to re select it after starting.
BMW breaker no, but a cheaper alternative for sure. One big CON is that LCD screen doesn't have navigation features. You have to install a separate navigation device.
Only decent thing on this bike is the Pirelli tyres and KYB suspension, everything else is not great tbh. Cheap bike with huge depreciation and build quality not great it will rust very quickly. It’s great out of the showroom and so many people reviewing these but time will tell. Try getting spare parts for this in future, you will struggle.
This brand is growing so spares will be available. The engine is the same as they use on the bmw 900GS KYB suspension brembo brakes Pirelli tyres. I think any bike will rust if not cared for
Yes I agree I thought they would of done at least 3 years but that wouldn’t put me off personally because of the decent components on the bike. Time will tell I guess 👍
The guarantee are a bit of a scam , the more years the more you pay in services cost over 3 or 4 or 5 years , the cost of bmw for example are freakin robbery but hey to keep the guarantee you have too. 🤦♂️ voge looks good i would like to try one or try a bmw 900 cos there the same 🤣😂
ALL Voge motorcycles have 2 years Unlimited mileage warranty cover from the manufacturer. If you want a longer warranty then there's numerous 3rd party warranty packages that you can buy from companies like Auto Guard etc for a nominal amount for added piece of mind.
@@thatbikersimonI agree. All the big brands also lose bucket loads in the first few years. A 60% loss on a £10k bike is less money than a 50% loss on an £18 big brand equivalent 🤷♂️
Because there is a 6 month waiting list for this bike, in the UK and also where I live in Spain. I could sell my bike DSX 900 after 7 months of ownership here in Spain for practically the price I paid for it, including the VAT. The price next year is going up which will also boost the price of 2024 models. Pay 18k for the equivalent BMW GS and after 3 years, let's see who has lost the most money 😉
@@motechRevolution Good point, supply and demand will always keep the prices high. I was recently told that a man in the UK has ordered one and received it in two weeks, fundamentally we buy motorcycles to have fun and not to worry about depreciation. It’s great to have a owners perspective on this because you’re the person that lives with the Bike on a daily basis.I’ve got the Voge 900 for a couple of weeks so I’m hoping to put some more miles on it, so far I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it. Some people get a little nervous when a Chinese brand looks and rides so good. And so they should..!
I am no lover of BMW, Ducati etc and their inflated prices BUT, buy these Chinese bikes at your peril. They copy everything and originate nothing. When the western producers disappear we will be left with only these knock-offs and no new development. Just saying.
That’s a true saying but these bikes have some nice components on them, the feedback from Spain where they’ve had this bike 6 months ago is positive from the owners so far.
People are so dumb and jumping on this Chinese bandwagon. They are all copies of an already existing bike, that is a copy of the bmw gs 900 adventure. But with chinesium metal. They’ll soon be disappointed within 2 years when it’s broke. They copy everything, they even copy range rovers.
@ yeh loncin. But the rest of the bike are not as high of standard and the quality of metal and parts isn't the same. Put both bikes aside and they are identical aesthetically.
I forgot to add that I appreciate the pillion perspective in your clips. It is a shame that more people don't do it.
I’m lucky that Amy has a the time to come and ride with me, it normally cost me a lunch somewhere, but she’s a great help with the camera. It’s important to show the pillion perspective on this type of bike. Thanks for the comment 👍🏍️💨💨💨
@ thanks for watching, I’ve not seen the TMF review il take a look. Over time will be the test with these bikes but so far they’ve come a long way, they can only get better and better. 👍
Picked mine up yesterday . Love it
Fantastic, what you get for your money is unbelievable. Enjoy 👍
@ can even update software via phone . Did it today . Fuelling even better now
@ that’s worth knowing, I can’t seem to connect my phone to the dash cam, have you managed to do this?
There a brilliant bike.the gear change is far smoother than my z1000sx I traded in for it and it rides every bit as good if not better.i love mine to
@@thatbikersimon yes, you need to use the Voge app and connect to the bikes wifi hotspot which should begin with MT….
Then you can view recordings and save them etc. But I’ve fitted an Aoocci C6 Pro CarPlay unit to mine together with the front and rear cameras so use those instead as easier to view, not that I’ve ever had cameras on a bike before .
I've had mine 2weeks done 1100 miles and its getting smoother all the time. Quickshifter is very smooth brakes fantastic i am struggling to find a fault cruise works fantastic
That’s great to know Gary, and people reading this will want to know this from the owners. Thanks for sharing. 👍
Great bike and great review. The main Chinese manufacturers are really smashing it , kove voge beneli all made huge progression.
They’ve certainly upped their game, it’s great to see because it’s now made it more affordable for bikers with some good components on the bike
Seen loads of reviews of this bike from some fairly high-profile channels, but no one's shown the actual bike anywhere near as well as you have. Good work sir. It's definitely got BMW vibes. Lotta bike for the money!
Thanks for watching it’s always nice to get some feedback, I realy appreciate it.
Looks great brilliant value, all the road tests I've viewed, the fueling ist very good,
Nice review
Thanks Martin, from the feedback im receiving there’s a update for the fueling, over time im sure any little issue will be resolved, but as far as these bikes go its a good spec bike that’s affordable. 🏍️💨💨💨💨
Great review. I have a F 750 GS 2021. Never heard of Voge. Love my BMW. Just made my 1st trip. Had a blast .
That’s great, BMW are well established and great bikes. I think you’ll start to see more of Voge it’s got a good range of bikes now, that suits a smaller budget.
I like this a lot. Lessons to be learnt by the more established manufactures 🤔. Thanks for sharing
Yes this is true, fully loaded bike for less than 9k is wonderful.
Good review. I’m pretty sure the seat heating is one piece so pillion too.
I’ve fitted taller screen, bar risers and GPS mount, all from Uncle Wang website . Also fitted Aoocci C6 CarPlay unit . Great bike !
I’ve been hearing about Uncle wangs website, il check it out. Sounds like you’ve got a great set up. It’s wicked there’s so many options for upgrading parts, I’m sure anyone reading thses comments will be interested in that.
Great service . Arrived in 2 weeks from China
@@magaudion that’s unbelievable. Wow
Damn, pillion not heated as confirmed by wife’s cold arse yesterday 😀
Hi Simon, and Amy B wow. What a piece of machinery got everything camera, and heaps of usb looks a fantastic white and for the money I think it’s fantastic. I’m still got the same motor as the BMW that’ll be fantastic motor anyway keep up the good work guys always enjoy the videos Cliff from Logan City, Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺 I’m on the big island 🏝️
Thanks Cliff, this bike is fully loaded. As standard 😂👍 for the money it’s great, I guess over time will be proof in the pudding.
My GS1200 is going, and it's gonna be one of these. BM price has gone nuts
I’m warming to the Chinese bikes great video Simon . top notch for replying to comments too
Cheers Ian, the Chinese bikes are getting better and better, which I know some people aren’t happy about but the reality is there making a competitive market so bike are better quality and more affordable.
Saw it in the NEC at the show and was very impressed....sounds great value there but I saw it's being offered here now at €13,950. Although compared to other bikes it's cheaper than more of it's ilk but 4:44 the exchange rate between € and £ makes it look worse
Very beautiful bike
All in Spain drive this bike
And very soon all Europe
The BMW R 1250 is going down
The Royal enfield himalayan 450 and Voge 900 DS is the future
Beautiful with strong engine and very cheap I'm getting this bike
That’s interesting to know, I was seriously impressed with the quality and tech on this bike for the money, why wouldn’t people want to buy it. 👍
cracking review pooch sorted awesome
Glad you enjoyed it
@ mmm my GS low is great as I’ve a 29 inside leg 🦵 but something to consider when I change
Very good price-performance ratio, but there is currently no large dealer network in Austria, which makes obtaining warranty service not easy.
Over time that might change, but I can see how that can be a problem
@@thatbikersimon In the summer I met a guy who bought a Voge SR 4 Max through an online dealer and he told me, that he had some problems getting a 1000 kilometer warranty service from a workshop. That couldn't dampen his enjoyment of the well-equipped scooter, which is far cheaper than the almost identical BMW 400.
I really hope that this bike takes the industry by storm ..
Well what they’ve done so far is very interesting, creating affordable bikes is the first hurdle, which they’ve done. Over time people will decide if its for them. It’s been a changing world in the motorcycle industry and this is probably what was needed to level thing out. 👍🏍️💨💨💨💨
Interesting bike Simon, I’d like to give one a test myself.
You should! You’ll like it
That’s definitely a lot for your money! Be interested to see the built in camera footage it’s a great little idea from a safety point of view 📷
I think all adventurer bikes should have that.
I looks just as good as any of the other big adventure bikes.
I think it probably is to a certain degree 👍
Ride or drive, just do it. Changing a bike, or car, is a luxury in the current market so just get out there and ride 😊
Not a bad idea 👍🏍️💨💨💨💨
It will depreciate the same as most in the early years, you lose purchase tax and VAT but as it’s cheaper in the first place you lose less🤷🏻♂️
Exactly 👍 these second hand will be a bargain if they stand the test of time.
Not allowed to post common sense comments on TH-cam, please stop with immediate effect. Thank you.
Great bike great video
Glad you like it! Thanks
Not sure why anyone would want a quick shifter? Changing gear without electronic intervention is part of the fun of riding i think .Im also not a fan of riding modes just because they add complexity but its all moving towards dealer-servicing only so each to their own ..otherwise its a nice bike but without the quick shifter, the riding modes and the radar & the other Tech, the bike might have been 7.5K and at that price, it may have been a contender to replace my TDM900, which is all the better for not having all the unnecessary bits that ( reduce imho) riding pleasure and dull riding skills..That said, its a major step forward in bringing affordable fun to a wider audience!
Honest Simon I think these bikes are going to get better and better aka Japanese took over the British bike industry overnight due to alleged complacency !!
Would be great if you could Contact Bryan from Moto GB and review a few of the bikes they import as your reviews are without question comprehensive and very very good 👏cheers ian
Thanks Ian, it’s much appreciated, I’ve got moto GB on board so plenty of bikes to come In the near future. 👍🏍️💨💨💨💨
That is such good value for money big time just un real
It’s a great price for all that spec
If your a label snob don't even comment.i have this bike and even the little shitty things like stand and switches are all total bollocks as there fine and not an issue.its every bit as good as the BMW and even looks better. It's definitely not going to loose£6000 in it's first 6 months like all yr well know makes that is for sure
Well said Gary 👍🏍️💨💨💨
Hi, You are one of the very few TH-camrs who include your pillion partner in your videos. Is it possible to get more input from her on what she thinks of the bikes? Many of your viewers will be men, like me, who wouldn’t make a major purchase such as a new motorcycle purchase without the agreement of their partners. If you could persuade your good lady to comment on the pillion experience, this would be very useful.
I can’t make that decision for her but I shall ask, she’s happy to give the feedback, but next year she will be on her own bike more.
These bike's have 4 rider modes. Rain, road, sports and enduro!!
This one only had 3 rider modes I’m not sure if you have to do a software update to get enduro mode as well
Hi, on these bikes, you have to be in sports mode then hold the button down for 3 seconds, that gives you 'enduro' mode. It's to stop the rider accidentally turning the ABS off. Sorry I'm not being a##hole just though it important to anyone considering one of these. I wouldn't have bought mine if it didnt have enduro mode, even on the lightest of off road you've got to turn off the traction control or you can't get anywhere, as is the case with most bike's. Hope I haven't offended, we enjoy your content. Cheers James
@thatbikersimon
@ thanks James, I really appreciate the feedback, it’s funny because initially I wrote down 4 modes but couldn’t find the enduro mode, I never would of guessed you needed to hold the button down, so that’s great to know. I always find these things out after the video goes lol 😂. I’ve got the bike for a coupe of weeks so il have another play and maybe do a TH-cam short of that 👍 cheers buddy
@@thatbikersimon Enduro Mode is 'Hidden' because it's disabling the traction control and rear ABS - Only the front ABS remain 'on' for safety reasons. It's the Only mode that can't be selected on the move, however - should you stall the engine when Enduro Mode is selected the bike remembers that you're in this mode so you don't have to re select it after starting.
BMW breaker no, but a cheaper alternative for sure. One big CON is that LCD screen doesn't have navigation features. You have to install a separate navigation device.
Only decent thing on this bike is the Pirelli tyres and KYB suspension, everything else is not great tbh. Cheap bike with huge depreciation and build quality not great it will rust very quickly. It’s great out of the showroom and so many people reviewing these but time will tell. Try getting spare parts for this in future, you will struggle.
This brand is growing so spares will be available. The engine is the same as they use on the bmw 900GS KYB suspension brembo brakes Pirelli tyres. I think any bike will rust if not cared for
The only thing that I don't like is the gold wheel rims.
I think the gold looks nicer on the black bike they do.
I agree, also the gold fork fashion!
BMW beater my arse 😂
Shame only a two year warranty.... CFMOTO 4 years...BMW 3 years and SUZUKI 3 (up to 7 potentially)....🤔
Are VOGE not that confident.
Yes I agree I thought they would of done at least 3 years but that wouldn’t put me off personally because of the decent components on the bike. Time will tell I guess 👍
The guarantee are a bit of a scam , the more years the more you pay in services cost over 3 or 4 or 5 years , the cost of bmw for example are freakin robbery but hey to keep the guarantee you have too. 🤦♂️ voge looks good i would like to try one or try a bmw 900 cos there the same 🤣😂
ALL Voge motorcycles have 2 years Unlimited mileage warranty cover from the manufacturer. If you want a longer warranty then there's numerous 3rd party warranty packages that you can buy from companies like Auto Guard etc for a nominal amount for added piece of mind.
It’s not value if it depreciates like a lead balloon
Any bike I’ve ever bought new or old I’ve lost money on, but you’ve lost nothing if you don’t sell it and use it 🏍️💨💨💨💨💨
@@thatbikersimonI agree. All the big brands also lose bucket loads in the first few years. A 60% loss on a £10k bike is less money than a 50% loss on an £18 big brand equivalent 🤷♂️
All indications from Europe show they aren't depreciating anything like more established brands!
Because there is a 6 month waiting list for this bike, in the UK and also where I live in Spain. I could sell my bike DSX 900 after 7 months of ownership here in Spain for practically the price I paid for it, including the VAT. The price next year is going up which will also boost the price of 2024 models. Pay 18k for the equivalent BMW GS and after 3 years, let's see who has lost the most money 😉
@@motechRevolution Good point, supply and demand will always keep the prices high. I was recently told that a man in the UK has ordered one and received it in two weeks, fundamentally we buy motorcycles to have fun and not to worry about depreciation. It’s great to have a owners perspective on this because you’re the person that lives with the Bike on a daily basis.I’ve got the Voge 900 for a couple of weeks so I’m hoping to put some more miles on it, so far I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it. Some people get a little nervous when a Chinese brand looks and rides so good. And so they should..!
China is now leading the world in many areas.They make some good stuff.
They sure do. Voge will do very well I Recon
Yeh, even garlic bulbs sold by Tesco😎
I am no lover of BMW, Ducati etc and their inflated prices BUT, buy these Chinese bikes at your peril. They copy everything and originate nothing. When the western producers disappear we will be left with only these knock-offs and no new development. Just saying.
Fair point. It’s going to be a interesting future especially how its been the last few years.
Pay cheap pay twice,time will tell,not for me😊
That’s a true saying but these bikes have some nice components on them, the feedback from Spain where they’ve had this bike 6 months ago is positive from the owners so far.
People are so dumb and jumping on this Chinese bandwagon. They are all copies of an already existing bike, that is a copy of the bmw gs 900 adventure. But with chinesium metal. They’ll soon be disappointed within 2 years when it’s broke. They copy everything, they even copy range rovers.
Don’t forget the BMW 900GS engine comes out the same factory 🤷♂️
@ yeh loncin. But the rest of the bike are not as high of standard and the quality of metal and parts isn't the same. Put both bikes aside and they are identical aesthetically.
@@finesoul677 only time will tell I guess there to new but I’ve not heard from the owners reviews that there any major issues so far
an imitation is just an imitation. Yellow Masquerade. The same old story...
Bmw owner??😂😂
BMW snobbery 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍