Same in México is kinda premium brand and the thing is that even tough it is cheap in USA this brand cause headache to the premium brands since most of times works better than the expensive productos... Example the Gold clases shampoo is one of the Best in market and fight directly with the very premium shampoos
Good comparison. I would say that if you compare wheels try to do left and right front, not front and rear because the braking system in front got large pads so you should have more Iron from brake dust. On the other hand, I wish to try next time car pro Iron X vs Sonax Wheel cleaner plus. Thanks
Feras, I've used both IronX and Sonax Wheel Cleaner Plus. I got the same results as Jimbo: Both work, Sonax clings better. Now I use only the Sonax, and I even add water to get a better spraypattern: 75% product, 25%water (3:1). Also works as claylube on a washed car. Saves a step ;)
@@reyalmonte1533 Brake pressure left and right should be the same, otherwise it would be unsafe. I was talking about front and rear. Most of the braking is done with the front.
There's a difference between pre-washed and pre-rinsed. You should always wash a rim before applying a chemical decontaminant. Otherwise you're wasting chemical on removable contaminants. What the Megs bottle means is that the rim should be dry. Otherwise the chemical dilutes itself. So wash it and dry it before application. They're both trying to say the same thing but both failed in slightly different ways. I use a pressure rinse first, then an APC, then an acid wheel cleaner (if they're bad), then dry the wheels and use an iron remover, then a tar remover, then a clay bar and finally a panel wipe. Then they're ready for coating.
I always prefer a decent product I can grab off a shelf than a high end product I have to order. If I run out and need more now, I need to be able to just go get more
@@RB54DaBears I use IronFree at work. It's really good but smells really nasty. As much as I love how it works, I don't like the smell of rotten eggs everytime I clean my wheels
Krabsy I guess u haven't used iron X. I've used iron X for the last 2 years and it's horrible but at the end of the day it's whats works best for me and my clients. Easy to just mask up anyway. Iron free has a 10x better smell than iron X. As long as it has that active ingredient to break down iron contaminants than it'll always be bad. Glad someone else uses iron free. It's such a great product for the price
I have used the megs and griot's they seem to work the same, also if you wash a dirty car first the iron that's not embedded to the car washes off so the purple effect is less only the heavy stuff is left over is how i see these products working. good vids with the cheap vs expensive
I use this product all the time on a professional level and trust me, it really turns purple when it comes in contact with a lot of Iron or rust. After 2 or 3 minutes, agitate with a real soft brush for extremely dirty wheels and after another minute, rinse and see the difference. I have pics on my Facebook page of extremely rusted rims and making them look absolutely amazing with the Meguiar's Wheel Cleaner. My number 1 choice for the price, quantity and quality!
I am fairly certain that at 16:24 Gyeon sent someone from their headquarters in Singapore to mess with Jimbo's audio so we could not hear him say that the Megs worked similarly and that the Megs gives you more for less $. That and I think I saw a black helicopter do a fly-by in the video.
Surprisingly, this worked really well. Without even scrubbing - I'm impressed! I'm going to do it again before winter storage and actually scrub next time.
I'm not trying to be a smart-ass he should have done one front rim and tire and then the other front rim and tire. with that being said Meguiars products are awesome ! ! and thank you 4 letting us know about Meguiars wheel cleaner. would not have known this would be an iron free product
I understand. The reason I didn’t do that is because the other side was in the sun and I thought it would be unfair. To me both the back and from rims looked equally dirty.
If your iron remover is drying on the paintwork a great tip i got given was to stand at a distance and use the pressure washer to mist the paintwork, this will gently add some moisture back into the product.
I never wash or spray off the wheel before using Gyeon Iron. It holds on better with the dirt on there and has been more effective that way for me. Thanks Jim for more great info😊. Hope I say your name right Jimbo. Because it's not Geon it's Gyeon haha fun ball busting no disrespect.😂👍😊 Brakes work 70 front and 30 rears. So yes you will always have more iron deposits on front brakes.
i like that the Meguire's stays on longer [hood], stuff doesnt run off and might be cleaning deaper ! if less expensive does the job in similar time frame..Go for it!! :-)
Thanks for the video! One suggestion and this is for everyone, can we just stop calling wheels “rims”? Lol thanks for everyone helping and doing their part to make this world a better place for our kids! ITS ABOUT THE KIDS!
Great video! Might have been interesting on the hood to rinse and dry the hood... then apply it once again to see if both had COMPLETELY removed the iron.
Based on your video I picked some of this up. I spray lightly on the wheels and use a chip brush to agitate. Very pleased with the product and the results. Thank you
Take this for what it's worth but Meg's doesn't recommend this for use on paint. "We do not recommend using our Ultimate All Wheel Cleaner or any of our other wheel cleaners for applications other than wheels. We know and understand other products use similar color changing/iron reacting chemistry for applications other than wheels, but Ultimate All Wheel Cleaner is designed just for wheels. Keep in mind with any product which uses this color changing ingredient, that color changing ingredient could be one of many other ingredients in the formulation, and even though the color changing ingredient is widely known for it's effective yet safe cleaning ability, the other ingredients included in the formulation may be geared towards a more specific application like wheels, to help with all sorts of variables in performance, and those ingredients geared towards a more specific application may or may not work well or be safe for certain surfaces." Before I would use this on my paint I would like to know what the chemical differences are between products designed for wheels and those designed for paint.
Perfect timing on your vid as I just ran out [Was using Nanoskin Iron Free]. Now I'll try the Meguiars. Suggestion: You should make a playlist on your channel for Cheap vs Expensive.
I'd guess the wheels are due to the car not having soft pads. Try it on a Euro and watch it bleed My favourite Meguiars wheel cleaner is the Wheel Brightener - amazing product
I watched this because I thought it was "rust" remover! My bad. Enjoy your cheap vs expensive videos. I recently bought a water cannon for my Chevy van. I am a 75 year old great grandma but I like to detail my truck as long as I can.🤑
I can confirm the Meguiar's turns extremely purple when there's a lot of iron. Next time you have a 2018+ STi, try this. I cannot go more than three weeks without washing my wheels, and even after one week, it turns purple like crazy. I usually use Spray Nine or Super Clean for the tires and Meguiar's All Wheel Cleaner fort he job. It's economical and efficient. For those who want only one product, I guess the best I know which is reasonable priced is the Adam's (the purple one) Wheel & Tire Cleaner. It's phenomenal, but still more expensive than the Spray Nine+Meguiar's AWC. Also another trick that make the wheel cleaning way more efficient is to use a very soft conical drill brush. That cuts the working time at least by half.
Ok so this may freak some out, but here goes... wheel acid like savage acid or others work as good or better... obviously you must use carefully, wear protective clothing, ahem like shoes.... but at 20.00 ish a gallon you can thank me later. If using on paint or in direct sun be sure to rinse first to cool and do not let bake/dry on...
I did a comparo of Megs Ultimate wheel cleaner to Griots Heavy Duty and Sonax Wheel Cleaner Plus. The Megs is a great value and worked as well as Griots at 1/2 price. The Sonax was a little better performer but not for 2X the price. Hard to beat the Megs for an iron reactive wheel cleaner.
Specific iron removers aren't wheel cleaners. It can be part of the process but you should use an actual wheel cleaner to clean wheels. There's more than just iron/brake dust on the wheels.
Hi Jim ! Ed Here From São Paulo, SP, Brasil ! Nice & Important Video ! Nothing Like the Real Test. Very Important All Your Comparative Videos. No Doubt, VERY HELPFUL ! Thank You Very Much ! Best Regards !
can you use this mcguire's wheel cleaner 'iron remover' on the whole car, as a chemical decontamination, pre clay bar and paint correction?? thanks in advance !!
Acid is one of my favorite wheel cleaners for so many reasons. I wouldn’t use it as a maintenance item as it may have long term negative effects. But on super nasty rims that have been neglected- there’s nothing that will get them cleaner faster then wheel acid.
@@autodetailingpodcast Jimbo. What i meant was using acidic wheel cleaner to deep clean/decon car paint, not wheels. Will it be okay for my car paint in long term? Assuming that i did the decon with caution and use common sense.
Reasonable test and conclusion. the one thing I would suggest is to use the Gyon after using Meguiars and vice versa to see if either doesn't quite get as much as the other...
I’ve tried Meguires, Adams wheel cleaner and Adams eco wheel cleaner. Like Meguires the best and I don’t have to order it or go out of my way to find it.
i think that your rims were to clean to do a good comparison, in the meaning that on a quite clean rim also low level product could do a good job, only when dirty s a lots you could see the difference. So maybe i would suggest as conclusion:if you will use the wheel cleaner regularly, a cheap products could be as good as an expensive one. But we cannot really say they are the same.
Looks like these products do the same thing as the BMW “wheel gel” which turns “purple” . Do you think it’s the same thing ? If so, and they won’t etch the wheels, I may give them a try. Thank you. 😎🇩🇪🚙
Gyeon products are NOT worth the money. All true Iron removers have a terrible odor. I’ve found that if the car has been neglected iron remover make claying easier. Nice vid and idea I will try this out.
And some kind of tar remover too. I find tar kills a clay bar quicker than anything. I use Autosmart Tardis. I do a decon with Iron X and Tardis before claying and it saves me at least 50% of my time.
As a detailer I've switched over to almost all of Gyeon's line last year. However I still use Sonax full effects/ PLUS wheel cleaner as my go to. Why? Simply because i haven't found a better one yet. Now that being said I rarley use a iron remover wheel cleaner on wheels once they've been decontaminated from iron, claying, and polishing. Followed by Ceramic coating and AMMONYC gellee. I go to AMOONYC Brute for my maintenance washes. But to say meguiars has a better wheel cleaner I disagree, I feel you'd be using more of the product sense it's foaming coming out of the nozzle instead of direct liquid and running down the wheel/panel. Might be as good but I feel you'd be using a lot more of their product for the same resaults as gyeon or better yet Sonax.
So that meguiars all wheel cleaner is also safe on matte black wheels??? I now its an all wheel cleaner but sometimes you just never now with matte black wheels being so sensitive
I found the Meguiars about three months ago. Great to use right before you wash the rims. I was wondering if you could use it on paint. Thanks for doing this comparison now have another use for this great product.
I’m a little confused. When would you use this on paint? I’ve been trying to clarify that. For something more aggressive than apc? I’m looking for a “decontamination” step to use whether in conjunction with or in lieu of clay. Also what would you recommend for mold/mildew removal on a car that’s been sitting 10 years with summers of caked on pollen Edit. Nm you kind of answered as the video went on
How do you keep your rotors from staining? I stopped using wheel cleaner because they stain my rotors and won’t rinse off. Then it turns to a rusty look
UP HERE IN WISCONSIN? WE HAVE ALOT OF IRON IN OUR WATER.. SO RIGHT FROM THE TAP..BUT OUR HOMES USE A DEIRONIZER TANK, HOOKED UP TO OUR WATER SOFTNERS AND BINGO! IRON IS GONE... CAN ADD SOME IRON OUT CRYSTALS TO A PINT OF QATER AND USE THAT FOR A SPRAY..
Just a guess but, I'll bet the Meguiars advises not to clean because the iron dust and contaminants on the rim that would normally just rinse off will cause a more conspicuous reaction.
Please compare F11 topcoat to any cheaper comparable product manetts mega shine? please... that f11 stuff is pretty expensive and a lot of "enthusiasts" rave about it.... thanks jimbo
I like the foam vs running down product. I would highly suggest rinsing bottom to top to avoid diluting the product and streaks/stains on the finish. You have mentioned applying it dry, but what are your thoughts about rinsing it down to cool down the paint and to knock dirt off the paint before applying the product? Overall I like your comparisons, it makes easier for amateurs and professionals to see other products in the market. Thanks again.
Megs for $9 I would be more apt to use it and not feel like its burning a hole in my pocket..... I have IronX and yes it works,, but that stuff gets pricey and Feel guilty using it...Once I'm out of it. I'll go Megs for the win. Gr8t Video !!! Keep up the good work.
I don't know if you can solely base the price of the product off of just the performance. I don't have experience with the Gyeon Iron product, but you need to watch what you use on certain wheel finishes. Perhaps with many standard factory wheel paints and clears, you're fine. But as soon as you get into aftermarket powdercoats, anodizing, and clears, you might want to rethink using anything too acidic.
I do agree the gyeon or iron x is over priced BUT the active ingredient that makes the purple is a lot less in the Meguiars than in the gyeon or iron x. Now... maybe you don't need a high concentration of the active ingredient to be effective?
Auto Detailing Podcast, it would be interesting to know what is the main active ingredient that turns purple. I personally think it is hydrogen peroxyde. If so we could probably come up with an extremely cheap home made version of the fallout remover.
So TGA is a ferric reducing agent. It can produce red in the presence of iron at very low ratios. It is also used in the cosmetic industry for perms and hair waving. Do not get on your skin or in your eyes as it can cause corneal damage. www.arkema.com/en/products/product-finder/product-viewer/TGA
I've been using the full effect wheel cleaner, that stuff is amazing and way better than anything else I've ever used on wheels. I wonder if these are the same?
would have liked to have seen you spray the Meguiars side with Gyeon and vice versa to see if either pulls more contaminate off that the other spray didn't quite get. Just wondering if the Gyeon does a better job at pulling all that stuff out vs the Meguiars is all.
Try bilt hamber auto wheels and you'll be blown away. Also their similar ironfallout for paint. Valetpro dragons breath is an other one with very high percentage of the chemicals that dissolves the fallout. Also its recommended to wash the car or wheels AND dry it then apply a falloutremover. Otherwise all the other dirt and contamination will weaken the effect and absorb the product.
Hmmmm never thought of using wheel cleaner on the paint. I always thought it'd be bad for the paint. Well give this a try next time. Would this also be a good way to remove old wax/sealant?
I wouldn't use any Wheel Cleaner on paint. He used it on paint because it has Iron Removers in it. That Meguiar's Product is a wheel cleaner with some Iron Remover. Gyeon Iron is a straight Iron Remover product. Not really comparing apples to apples. That's why Gyeon Iron is pricier.
Sorry I'll clarify, OP said he didn't know he could use wheel cleaner on paint. What I meant was, don't just grab ANY wheel cleaner and use it on your paint. If it has iron removers in it, that's fine such as this Meguiar's product, Griot's Heavy Duty Wheel Cleaner, etc. There are dedicated Iron Removers that I rather use though for paint, such as this Gyeon Iron or Adams Iron Remover.
I've used Meguiar's Ultimate Wheel Cleaner, and I have to say that I was impressed by it. I've also used Chemical Guy's Iron Decon spray, and I was extremely disappointed. I'm going to give P&S Brake Buster a try too, but so far, Meguiar's has a heck of a good iron remover.
It isn’t really cheap Megs Ultimate Wheel Cleaner, costs around €20 in Europe. While SONX Wheel Cleaner Full Effect coat €7,50, although I don’t find SONAX very good. Is Meguiar’s better?
Sorry about the audio in the last clip of the video - damn iPhone.
damn iPhone.
Go Andriod
What was your conclusion that we couldn't hear?
Not sorry enough to spell out what you said for the viewers, I guess.
These guys are just whiners, Jimbo. All you gotta do is turn up the volume a bit for a minute. It’s fine.
Meguiars might be cheap in the US but its considered an expensive premium brand in the UK.
Crazy
Jup the netherlands 2
The da system in america 35 dollar and in netherlands 70 euro
Same in México is kinda premium brand and the thing is that even tough it is cheap in USA this brand cause headache to the premium brands since most of times works better than the expensive productos... Example the Gold clases shampoo is one of the Best in market and fight directly with the very premium shampoos
With the cost import and transport from the States it adds to the price
In Indonesia meguiars was being a highend detailing product
Definitely Meguiars as it's "more bang for my buck" and it's a brand I trust..
Good comparison. I would say that if you compare wheels try to do left and right front, not front and rear because the braking system in front got large pads so you should have more Iron from brake dust. On the other hand, I wish to try next time car pro Iron X vs Sonax Wheel cleaner plus. Thanks
Feras Al-Hindi if you watched the video, he explained why he did that
Feras, I've used both IronX and Sonax Wheel Cleaner Plus. I got the same results as Jimbo: Both work, Sonax clings better. Now I use only the Sonax, and I even add water to get a better spraypattern: 75% product, 25%water (3:1). Also works as claylube on a washed car. Saves a step ;)
Indeed. Useless test when you compare a front to a rear wheel.
It depends most car the driver side brake system is under the most pressure that being said the driver side would be the dirtiest of them all 🤷🏾♂️
@@reyalmonte1533 Brake pressure left and right should be the same, otherwise it would be unsafe. I was talking about front and rear. Most of the braking is done with the front.
A way to better test it was to use a clay bar After being chemically decontaminated. Then you can compare which dissolved more iron fallout.
There's a difference between pre-washed and pre-rinsed. You should always wash a rim before applying a chemical decontaminant. Otherwise you're wasting chemical on removable contaminants. What the Megs bottle means is that the rim should be dry. Otherwise the chemical dilutes itself. So wash it and dry it before application. They're both trying to say the same thing but both failed in slightly different ways.
I use a pressure rinse first, then an APC, then an acid wheel cleaner (if they're bad), then dry the wheels and use an iron remover, then a tar remover, then a clay bar and finally a panel wipe. Then they're ready for coating.
I really like All Wheel Cleaner. It foams up very nicely and smells a ton better. Not to mention it’s 4x cheaper.
Agreed!
I always prefer a decent product I can grab off a shelf than a high end product I have to order. If I run out and need more now, I need to be able to just go get more
Yup, nanoskin iron free is another great affordable one
@@RB54DaBears I use IronFree at work. It's really good but smells really nasty. As much as I love how it works, I don't like the smell of rotten eggs everytime I clean my wheels
Krabsy I guess u haven't used iron X. I've used iron X for the last 2 years and it's horrible but at the end of the day it's whats works best for me and my clients. Easy to just mask up anyway. Iron free has a 10x better smell than iron X. As long as it has that active ingredient to break down iron contaminants than it'll always be bad. Glad someone else uses iron free. It's such a great product for the price
I have used the megs and griot's they seem to work the same, also if you wash a dirty car first the iron that's not embedded to the car washes off so the purple effect is less only the heavy stuff is left over is how i see these products working. good vids with the cheap vs expensive
Thanks!
I use this product all the time on a professional level and trust me, it really turns purple when it comes in contact with a lot of Iron or rust. After 2 or 3 minutes, agitate with a real soft brush for extremely dirty wheels and after another minute, rinse and see the difference. I have pics on my Facebook page of extremely rusted rims and making them look absolutely amazing with the Meguiar's Wheel Cleaner. My number 1 choice for the price, quantity and quality!
You can get the Meguiars for $7.99 at Advanced Auto Parts on sale most times
Never heard of advanced auto lmao.
@@coop4274 It's like AutoZone Maybe you have heard of that.
Greg Wallace lol. I meant there’s no such place called advanced auto lmao.
here in Europe we pay about 20 euro's for the same bottle :( .
I love meguiars products but hate they are so expensive here :(
I am fairly certain that at 16:24 Gyeon sent someone from their headquarters in Singapore to mess with Jimbo's audio so we could not hear him say that the Megs worked similarly and that the Megs gives you more for less $. That and I think I saw a black helicopter do a fly-by in the video.
Hahha. Truth!
Yeah, it's not looking good for Gyeon. Super expensive and similar to Megs.
I never knew about using iron removers before clay ! Great thing to know !
Surprisingly, this worked really well. Without even scrubbing - I'm impressed! I'm going to do it again before winter storage and actually scrub next time.
I use this product and its awesome. Cheaper alternative for irom remover. I find it at my walmart for 5 dollars!
In EU the price is the same. Both are expensive :D 15€ for 500ml for Gyeon, or 18€ for 750ml for Meguiars.
Is this a good step to take before claying? And would you do this before a wash or after? If that makes sense
Yes. Pre clay
@@autodetailingpodcast thanks!
I'm not trying to be a smart-ass he should have done one front rim and tire and then the other front rim and tire. with that being said Meguiars products are awesome ! ! and thank you 4 letting us know about Meguiars wheel cleaner. would not have known this would be an iron free product
I understand. The reason I didn’t do that is because the other side was in the sun and I thought it would be unfair. To me both the back and from rims looked equally dirty.
Auto Detailing Podcast I understand that it's just the front brakes work a lot harder and disperse more material than rear disc brakes.
If your iron remover is drying on the paintwork a great tip i got given was to stand at a distance and use the pressure washer to mist the paintwork, this will gently add some moisture back into the product.
Stickymicky25 that’s a great tip. Thank you
Which spray gun handle are you using?
I never wash or spray off the wheel before using Gyeon Iron. It holds on better with the dirt on there and has been more effective that way for me.
Thanks Jim for more great info😊. Hope I say your name right Jimbo. Because it's not Geon it's Gyeon haha fun ball busting no disrespect.😂👍😊
Brakes work 70 front and 30 rears. So yes you will always have more iron deposits on front brakes.
Agreed! Jim-bo, lol
i like that the Meguire's stays on longer [hood], stuff doesnt run off and might be cleaning deaper ! if less expensive does the job in similar time frame..Go for it!! :-)
Facts!
Thanks for the video! One suggestion and this is for everyone, can we just stop calling wheels “rims”? Lol thanks for everyone helping and doing their part to make this world a better place for our kids! ITS ABOUT THE KIDS!
Meguiars for me. Seems to dwell better on the wheel with it being a foam constancy
Great video! Might have been interesting on the hood to rinse and dry the hood... then apply it once again to see if both had COMPLETELY removed the iron.
Good point
I choose to believe I am brilliant :-)
I buy that stuff at least 4 or 5 bottles at a time when it's on sale at local Walmart. It works great in my opinion
Changing bottles is easy to do too.
How much when on sale?
Voltis_5 its $8 cheap
Based on your video I picked some of this up. I spray lightly on the wheels and use a chip brush to agitate. Very pleased with the product and the results. Thank you
Take this for what it's worth but Meg's doesn't recommend this for use on paint.
"We do not recommend using our Ultimate All Wheel Cleaner or any of our other wheel cleaners for applications other than wheels. We know and understand other products use similar color changing/iron reacting chemistry for applications other than wheels, but Ultimate All Wheel Cleaner is designed just for wheels. Keep in mind with any product which uses this color changing ingredient, that color changing ingredient could be one of many other ingredients in the formulation, and even though the color changing ingredient is widely known for it's effective yet safe cleaning ability, the other ingredients included in the formulation may be geared towards a more specific application like wheels, to help with all sorts of variables in performance, and those ingredients geared towards a more specific application may or may not work well or be safe for certain surfaces."
Before I would use this on my paint I would like to know what the chemical differences are between products designed for wheels and those designed for paint.
Fair enough.
Perfect timing on your vid as I just ran out [Was using Nanoskin Iron Free]. Now I'll try the Meguiars.
Suggestion: You should make a playlist on your channel for Cheap vs Expensive.
Will do. Thanks
I'd guess the wheels are due to the car not having soft pads. Try it on a Euro and watch it bleed
My favourite Meguiars wheel cleaner is the Wheel Brightener - amazing product
Meguiar's ultimate all cleaner, the product is safe? it does not damage the clear coat when it is used on the bodywork etc? Thank you
ultimate focus RS MK2 NL yes it’s safe. It’s ph neutral
@@autodetailingpodcast ok thanks 👌
I watched this because I thought it was "rust" remover! My bad. Enjoy your cheap vs expensive videos. I recently bought a water cannon for my Chevy van. I am a 75 year old great grandma but I like to detail my truck as long as I can.🤑
Keep up the good work! That’s awesome!
I can confirm the Meguiar's turns extremely purple when there's a lot of iron. Next time you have a 2018+ STi, try this. I cannot go more than three weeks without washing my wheels, and even after one week, it turns purple like crazy. I usually use Spray Nine or Super Clean for the tires and Meguiar's All Wheel Cleaner fort he job. It's economical and efficient. For those who want only one product, I guess the best I know which is reasonable priced is the Adam's (the purple one) Wheel & Tire Cleaner. It's phenomenal, but still more expensive than the Spray Nine+Meguiar's AWC. Also another trick that make the wheel cleaning way more efficient is to use a very soft conical drill brush. That cuts the working time at least by half.
Great video; I have the Meguiar’s in order. Just petrified spraying all over on my Red Tundra!!
Half the Gyeon was on the ground within 10 seconds. Give me the foam every time
Ok so this may freak some out, but here goes... wheel acid like savage acid or others work as good or better... obviously you must use carefully, wear protective clothing, ahem like shoes.... but at 20.00 ish a gallon you can thank me later. If using on paint or in direct sun be sure to rinse first to cool and do not let bake/dry on...
Tony Harris I’m a huge fan of using acid for wheels and paint. Your right a lot of people freak. But if used properly it’s extremely cost effective.
I love these comparisons! Super interesting seeing the side by side.
Thanks!
Hi ,can you recommend which wheel protector to use on powder coated alloys? Also, wheel cleaner?
I tried the Meguiars and my wheels look amazing. Thanks for the video Jimbo
Awesome!
Meguires has really earned my trust at striking the perfect balance between effective and affordable on most products.
Is the meguires safe to use on paint all over the car as an iron remover ? This product is alot cheaper then iron remover specific products ?
Can this be used on ceramic coating just before applying top up maintainance like P&S beadmaker?
Foam will contain the product therefore lack of "purple" and more dwell on surface. Meg does it again, cant beat it!
I just used the wheel cleaner and to my surprise it worked very well thanks for the tips
I did a comparo of Megs Ultimate wheel cleaner to Griots Heavy Duty and Sonax Wheel Cleaner Plus. The Megs is a great value and worked as well as Griots at 1/2 price. The Sonax was a little better performer but not for 2X the price. Hard to beat the Megs for an iron reactive wheel cleaner.
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I do love the CvsE series. Been using that Meg’s since I saw it on Scott’s videos. Love that stuff. Buy it by the case from Walmart home delivery.
Hey Buddy, what type of high pressure washer is that in the video?
Specific iron removers aren't wheel cleaners. It can be part of the process but you should use an actual wheel cleaner to clean wheels. There's more than just iron/brake dust on the wheels.
Hi Jim !
Ed Here From São Paulo, SP, Brasil !
Nice & Important Video !
Nothing Like the Real Test.
Very Important All Your Comparative Videos.
No Doubt, VERY HELPFUL !
Thank You Very Much !
Best Regards !
Thank you
Excellent series
thanks
can you use this mcguire's wheel cleaner 'iron remover' on the whole car, as a chemical decontamination, pre clay bar and paint correction?? thanks in advance !!
Yes
DAMN , THOSE WHEELS LOOK PRETTY CLEAN TO ME..
Hi Jimbo.
What do u think of using acidic wheel cleaner such as Meg wheel brightener as decon product?
Will it ruin clearcoat in longterm?
Acid is one of my favorite wheel cleaners for so many reasons. I wouldn’t use it as a maintenance item as it may have long term negative effects. But on super nasty rims that have been neglected- there’s nothing that will get them cleaner faster then wheel acid.
@@autodetailingpodcast
Jimbo.
What i meant was using acidic wheel cleaner to deep clean/decon car paint, not wheels.
Will it be okay for my car paint in long term?
Assuming that i did the decon with caution and use common sense.
Have you tried Brake Dust Pro? That’s the only one I have used and it smells terrible but seems to work well.
I haven’t tried it.
Will maguire work for water spots on windows and the paint . And should I dilute it ? My car is dark blue by the way
No this product doesn’t really work on water spots
@@autodetailingpodcast any recommendations where I can pick up something that can be found at auto parts store that works ?
I think griots garage had a “heavy duty wheel cleaner” it’s clear in color and that may work
When u applied it to the hood, did u apply it straight up or did u get the hood first wet and then u applied it?
Straight
Reasonable test and conclusion. the one thing I would suggest is to use the Gyon after using Meguiars and vice versa to see if either doesn't quite get as much as the other...
I’ve tried Meguires, Adams wheel cleaner and Adams eco wheel cleaner. Like Meguires the best and I don’t have to order it or go out of my way to find it.
Timothy Wolleck 100% agree.
i think that your rims were to clean to do a good comparison, in the meaning that on a quite clean rim also low level product could do a good job, only when dirty s a lots you could see the difference.
So maybe i would suggest as conclusion:if you will use the wheel cleaner regularly, a cheap products could be as good as an expensive one.
But we cannot really say they are the same.
I love this series and you just saved me large dollars. Meguiars is quality and always has been. Thanks.
I Remember gong thru many cleaner brands for my chrome rims and tried meguiars and it was awesome! I been a loyal fan to all their products since!
Iron remover on paint before or after wash?
Either. Usually after a wash
@@autodetailingpodcast thank you
Looks like these products do the same thing as the BMW “wheel gel” which turns “purple” . Do you think it’s the same thing ? If so, and they won’t etch the wheels, I may give them a try.
Thank you. 😎🇩🇪🚙
I haven’t tried that. But if it turns purple it’s an iron remover so basically the same thing.
Meg's wheel brightner, hands down best wheel cleaner peroid. Just don't breath it in...
Gyeon products are NOT worth the money. All true Iron removers have a terrible odor.
I’ve found that if the car has been neglected iron remover make claying easier. Nice vid and idea I will try this out.
And some kind of tar remover too. I find tar kills a clay bar quicker than anything. I use Autosmart Tardis. I do a decon with Iron X and Tardis before claying and it saves me at least 50% of my time.
Is the meg all purpose wheel cleaner as a iron remover safe for car paint?
Can you use this for water spots
As a detailer I've switched over to almost all of Gyeon's line last year. However I still use Sonax full effects/ PLUS wheel cleaner as my go to. Why? Simply because i haven't found a better one yet. Now that being said I rarley use a iron remover wheel cleaner on wheels once they've been decontaminated from iron, claying, and polishing. Followed by Ceramic coating and AMMONYC gellee. I go to AMOONYC Brute for my maintenance washes. But to say meguiars has a better wheel cleaner I disagree, I feel you'd be using more of the product sense it's foaming coming out of the nozzle instead of direct liquid and running down the wheel/panel. Might be as good but I feel you'd be using a lot more of their product for the same resaults as gyeon or better yet Sonax.
Fair enough.
To get it totally clean you Have to scrub with any type you use so honestly i go with more of the cheaper side of things on wheel cleaners.
Do you have to use wheel cleaners or you can just use heavy duty degreaser?
Sonal Prasad degreaser will work just as good in most cases
The man. Have you used meguiars hot shine and endurance? Which one you recommend?
So that meguiars all wheel cleaner is also safe on matte black wheels??? I now its an all wheel cleaner but sometimes you just never now with matte black wheels being so sensitive
can I use wheel cleaner for the body paint? is that ok?
I found the Meguiars about three months ago. Great to use right before you wash the rims. I was wondering if you could use it on paint. Thanks for doing this comparison now have another use for this great product.
James Pritchett your welcome. Glad I could help out
Do you usually use the iron remover before or after a wash?
Either or both
I’m a little confused. When would you use this on paint? I’ve been trying to clarify that. For something more aggressive than apc? I’m looking for a “decontamination” step to use whether in conjunction with or in lieu of clay. Also what would you recommend for mold/mildew removal on a car that’s been sitting 10 years with summers of caked on pollen
Edit. Nm you kind of answered as the video went on
How do you keep your rotors from staining? I stopped using wheel cleaner because they stain my rotors and won’t rinse off. Then it turns to a rusty look
I love these series of videos from you!
Paint Correction Officer thanks man!
is this safe for ceramic coated cars? specially the Meguiars?
UP HERE IN WISCONSIN? WE HAVE ALOT OF IRON IN OUR WATER.. SO RIGHT FROM THE TAP..BUT OUR HOMES USE A DEIRONIZER TANK, HOOKED UP TO OUR WATER SOFTNERS AND BINGO! IRON IS GONE... CAN ADD SOME IRON OUT CRYSTALS TO A PINT OF QATER AND USE THAT FOR A SPRAY..
Are wheel cleaners advisable to be sprayed on painted surfaces?
What type of high pressure washer is used in the video ? ... washer and rinse ?
Just a guess but, I'll bet the Meguiars advises not to clean because the iron dust and contaminants on the rim that would normally just rinse off will cause a more conspicuous reaction.
Why not try the gyeon on the same wheel after using megs first to see if it pulls off anymore contamination!
Please compare F11 topcoat to any cheaper comparable product manetts mega shine? please... that f11 stuff is pretty expensive and a lot of "enthusiasts" rave about it.... thanks jimbo
I like the foam vs running down product. I would highly suggest rinsing bottom to top to avoid diluting the product and streaks/stains on the finish. You have mentioned applying it dry, but what are your thoughts about rinsing it down to cool down the paint and to knock dirt off the paint before applying the product?
Overall I like your comparisons, it makes easier for amateurs and professionals to see other products in the market. Thanks again.
I do it before because it clings to the paint better IMO. It’s dry and the only product on vs a wet slick surface
Best wheel cleaner, Dawn soap (platinum). Cleans better and $13 for 3 (24 oz) bottles.
what pressure handle is that? im looking for a short one like that
Same would like to know!
Megs for $9 I would be more apt to use it and not feel like its burning a hole in my pocket..... I have IronX and yes it works,, but that stuff gets pricey and Feel guilty using it...Once I'm out of it. I'll go Megs for the win. Gr8t Video !!! Keep up the good work.
Thank you!
I don't know if you can solely base the price of the product off of just the performance. I don't have experience with the Gyeon Iron product, but you need to watch what you use on certain wheel finishes. Perhaps with many standard factory wheel paints and clears, you're fine. But as soon as you get into aftermarket powdercoats, anodizing, and clears, you might want to rethink using anything too acidic.
Definitely agree. These iron removers say they are pH neutral. But it’s usually always good to test it first.
so is the meguiars better? cause I can get that one here in Canada but not the iron?
Jared Simon - they are about the same IMO. so if you can get the meguiars one I would do that.
I do agree the gyeon or iron x is over priced BUT the active ingredient that makes the purple is a lot less in the Meguiars than in the gyeon or iron x.
Now... maybe you don't need a high concentration of the active ingredient to be effective?
I think your right. They seemed to work pretty much the same.
Auto Detailing Podcast, it would be interesting to know what is the main active ingredient that turns purple. I personally think it is hydrogen peroxyde. If so we could probably come up with an extremely cheap home made version of the fallout remover.
Stephen Remillard google thioglycolic acid
So TGA is a ferric reducing agent. It can produce red in the presence of iron at very low ratios. It is also used in the cosmetic industry for perms and hair waving. Do not get on your skin or in your eyes as it can cause corneal damage.
www.arkema.com/en/products/product-finder/product-viewer/TGA
Interesting, I guess this is not something that can be purchased at the local hardware store?
Gyeon Iron Remover is far much better vs the Meguiar All Wheel Cleaner..Sonax Wheel Cleaner Plus..Give that a try..Best one Ive tried
I've been using the full effect wheel cleaner, that stuff is amazing and way better than anything else I've ever used on wheels. I wonder if these are the same?
would have liked to have seen you spray the Meguiars side with Gyeon and vice versa to see if either pulls more contaminate off that the other spray didn't quite get. Just wondering if the Gyeon does a better job at pulling all that stuff out vs the Meguiars is all.
It’s difficult to do that because usually on the first application it won’t remove everything.
Try bilt hamber auto wheels and you'll be blown away. Also their similar ironfallout for paint. Valetpro dragons breath is an other one with very high percentage of the chemicals that dissolves the fallout.
Also its recommended to wash the car or wheels AND dry it then apply a falloutremover. Otherwise all the other dirt and contamination will weaken the effect and absorb the product.
What pressure washer gun do you use? I’ve been looking for a short gun, seems easier to use
Look up MTM Hydro M407 or SG28
Hey Jimbo, Can the Meguiars be use on Paint & Tint Glass?
Can be used on paint. No need to use on glass
Hmmmm never thought of using wheel cleaner on the paint. I always thought it'd be bad for the paint. Well give this a try next time. Would this also be a good way to remove old wax/sealant?
I wouldn't use any Wheel Cleaner on paint. He used it on paint because it has Iron Removers in it. That Meguiar's Product is a wheel cleaner with some Iron Remover. Gyeon Iron is a straight Iron Remover product. Not really comparing apples to apples. That's why Gyeon Iron is pricier.
MikeEM1 I see. Thanks for the info.
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Why cant we use wheel cleaner on paint?
I did that couple of times and my paint looks pretty darn good until now.
Sorry I'll clarify, OP said he didn't know he could use wheel cleaner on paint. What I meant was, don't just grab ANY wheel cleaner and use it on your paint. If it has iron removers in it, that's fine such as this Meguiar's product, Griot's Heavy Duty Wheel Cleaner, etc.
There are dedicated Iron Removers that I rather use though for paint, such as this Gyeon Iron or Adams Iron Remover.
I've used Meguiar's Ultimate Wheel Cleaner, and I have to say that I was impressed by it. I've also used Chemical Guy's Iron Decon spray, and I was extremely disappointed. I'm going to give P&S Brake Buster a try too, but so far, Meguiar's has a heck of a good iron remover.
I just pickup the chemical guys over the meguiars and was extremely disappointed. It didn't do anything. Gonna go back I guess
It isn’t really cheap Megs Ultimate Wheel Cleaner, costs around €20 in Europe. While SONX Wheel Cleaner Full Effect coat €7,50, although I don’t find SONAX very good. Is Meguiar’s better?
You should try bowdens own wheel cleaner it’s made in Australia and it doesn’t smell like arse
Thanks for the video brother. Would like to see nanoskin iron free vs iron X.