Had a Russell DL on my '99 Valkyrie Interstate and loved it. Completed a few 6-8k rides xcountry and realized that I didn't even think about the seat. It was a perfect fit and so comfortable it didn't register in my thoughts. Great Customer Service!
What a great testimonial- And you’re right- one shouldn’t have to think about it all… Apparently the designers of the Gen 6 do not subscribe to this philosophy? Sounds like you’ve seen a lot of this country… Stay safe out there and thanks for taking time to share your POV on the RDL-
None of those. Here's what I did. 2021 GW Tour. Remove seat, remove staples, peel back cover, peel back heating element, I took a 1/2 hole saw and cut out perfectly round pieces of foam. All the way down to seat pan, I spaced them 1.5 inches apart. I did this across the entire span of the seat. This allows the foam to compress much easier, next j bought a 1/2 inch gel pad from Amazon. $60. I then cut out the exact pattern into the foam, I used spray adhesive and placed the gel pad directly into the cutout. Perfect fit. I replaced heating element and cover. Re stapled the cover, done. I put ten thousand miles on this seat. It's absolutely perfect. All in cost me $65.
You WIN the grand prize for ingenuity and problem-solving- I just read this to my husband and you should’ve seen his face light up. Then you should’ve seen his face sink, when he realized he didn’t want to be responsible for this level of risk. And by risk, I mean laziness. Perhaps I can convince him to do a little aftermarket customization in our garage like you did sounds like a wonderful way to attack the problem, and in the most and the most affordable way yet. Thanks for this information and thanks for watching the video- really grateful-
I don’t know anyone who would do this so while you are clearly talented and good with money I know a lot of people who wouldn’t touch a stock seat. But well done 👍🏻
We can trust this information coming from someone with a handle like but_but629! Thanks for stopping by and letting us and the community know what works for you- We appreciate it.
All are good seats, I've had them all, I've had Road Kings, Softails, Electra Glides, Honda CB's, Honda Goldwings all with different seats. I like to do long rides mostly 400-500 mile days with 10-20 days out per trip. I currently have the Russel Day Long seat on my 2020 Goldwing Tour, and it's been the best seat I've ever sat on for long rides. Zero to very very minimum discomfort on long days on the bike, and at the end of the day or trip I'm absolutely feeling more energetic and comfortable. I'm 75, been doing this since I was 15, I really like and highly recommend the Russel Day Long seat for longer rides.
Thanks for noticing the video and letting us know your experience with an RDL… Did you go in person for a seat fitment session? We agree w u- we feel the RDL. Is the most comfortable we showroom tested, for sure. We hope to take a long ride on one soon. We value strong opinions from experienced riders such as yourself. We’re grateful for your feedback.
@@MiddleAgeRoadRage Yes, I went in for a fitting, rode the bike in got there about 8:30, they gave me my first fitting and took measurements and ask what I specifically wanted in the seat fit, they gave me a loaner seat for my bike and I took off for a local ride. The called me to come in for my first test fit, they made a few adjustments, and I left for lunch, later they called me back for the final fitting, Everything was good, so they put the seat together and called me about 2 hours later to put the new seat on my bike. The whole fitting to finished seat took about 6 1/2 hours. I rode the bike home that day which was about 260 miles and just loved the feel and comfort of the seat!
@@CharlesCarpenter-jh6bs your testimonial is certainly the type of service and timing that resonates with us… Thanks for sharing these more specific details…
I've been riding with a Corbin seat on 4 goldwings since 1996. It is very firm and your butt breaks in before the seat, had a 2002 goldwing with a Corbin, drove 105,000 miles on it, did (6) 1,000+ mile IBA and (2) 1,500+ mile IBA runs. My 2021 GW Tour DCT has a Corbin. Bottom (pun intended) line, it's what fits your bottom that makes the seat work 😃
What an amazing testimony from a long distance touring- we agree on how firm it seems- Can we ask if you chose the ride in service? Or did you ship your seat in ? Thanks for your response- we appreciate you taking time to watch and write in-
I live in the northeast and they shipped it from California at a special rate of $150 (based on the size box it would normally cost $300). I had an issue and had to send it back at no cost either way for me. I carry an Airhawk seat cushion with me for long highway rides. I rode the stock seat 20 miles home from the shop when I bought it and replaced the seat that day 😅
@@robertlorentz3670 well- apparently you know the diff btw a saddle and a brick! you are preaching to the choir- glad your choice worked out for you, with good shipping support- thx for weighing on this- we appreciate the help-
We've heard a lot of great things about all three seats. We wish we could sell RDL on WingStuff but they understandably only sell direct. As you mentioned in your vid it really comes down to rider preference. One rider might absolutely love a stiffer Corbin seat while the next guy or gal might hate it! Our owner, Rick, has a Corbin on his Wing and he's very happy with it. He feels that it compliments his Helibars perfectly!
Hey Wingstuff! Love hearing from our fave retailer of stuff for Wings! It’s so true- anatomy really makes the difference when it comes to preference- I’m sure most of us can agree stock sux, but a consensus on the aftermarket is really a split decision! Thx as always for stopping by and taking time to reach out and weigh in!
I JUST closed the Wingstuff browser tab before I read this comment! No wonder I've never seen RDL on the Wingstuff website.The stock seat does alright for me, especially since my bike is second hand and the previous owner has already done the breaking in for me. I'm contemplating the Utopia driver back rest at this time.
Congratulations on finding a solution you’re happy with!! Thanks for sharing another option with us and our viewers- Thank you for watching and taking the time to write in.
We hate to “butt” in with our opinions, long rides maketh one suffer sometimes😂😅 It ain’t bliss after 3+ hours on that stock seat… The SaddleMen seems the most affordable- Thank you for checking it out, and checking in with a comment
I’ve had, Ultimate, Hartco Diamond and one other I can’t remember, and every seat did not get me to two hours without butt pain. I now have a 2023 GL1800 Tour and the stock seat can’t get me to one hour without butt pain. I had the Wingsoft modification incorporated, but still can’t get to two hours. This week I got my production date for my first RDL seat and can’t wait to get it installed and hopefully get some serious hours in the seat.
Looks like you may finally get the comfort you desire and deserve. Be sure to let us know how it works out for you? Thank you so much for taking time to both watch and write in- we appreciate it so much
I received my RDL seat and used it for around 1000 miles. It was an improvement over the OEM seat, but I started feeling uncomfortable after 90-105 minutes. I spoke to RDL and they requested I send the seat back for adjustment. The builder of my seat actually called me and we discussed about discomfort areas. My seat was turned in less than a week and the result is night and day. So far seat is working well for me and my wife and have not found a ride limit due to discomfort. Without a doubt this is the most comfortable motorcycle seat I’ve had the pleasure to ride on. Highly recommend Russell products and their team.
@@jameshales6958 thank you for the response. Im currently using a Corbin on my r 18b. Way better than stock. After 90 minutes my but is starting to hurt. I have a build date in august with Russell. Can't wait.
I have tried them all I believe in my 40 yrs or riding and I almost always comeback to RDL. I cant tell you how much money I have spent on seats and almost give them away to try another type. I am not waiting on my build date to come for my 4th RDL and I will never go back to anything else.
Hey there ! Thank you for your RDL vote- It looks like it truly offers the most level of support and comfort- What a testimonial- Thanks again for taking time to comment! We appreciate you-
I have owned a half dozen or so HD touring bikes and invested in HD, Russell, Mustang and Corbin seats for long distance riding. I am an above average built guy and ride 10-20,000 miles per year and have had many day end pains. I heard about the Russel Day Long seats from a Gold Wing blog and decided to give them a try. The Mustang and Corbin seats were most painful to me on long rides. The Russel seat is by far the best touring seat I have ridden long distances on. For me, I will always have a Russell Day Long seat on any touring bike I own. The customer service, quality and comfort is best in class of the seats I have owned.
We really appreciate your honest testimonial- We agree - when comes to comfort, can anyone beat the RDL- Our butts like Russell- Our eyes like Corbin And Our wallets love SaddleMen- Hence our unique problem. Thank you for watching our video- and thank you even more for sharing your opinions by commenting- we really appreciate it.
I have been using the Road Sofa since June of 2022 and it is night and day compared to the the stock seat. I can go 3 hours straight without any of the pain that I would have with the stock seat. I would love to try the Russell day long but there is no way to do that without buying it ;-)
So glad to hear you can ride longer! The road sofa sounds like a good choice economically and ergonomically. Thanks for your testimonial on that. The Russell has a lot of fans and evangelists, but the lines of the bike work don’t seem to flow with the RDL seat in our eyes 👀 It’s good there is choice … And we think it’s a matter of anatomy vs aesthetic vs budget. Thank you so much for weighing in on this matter- And for taking time to watch as well. You get the one with heat?
@@MiddleAgeRoadRage I did not get the one with heat. I have heated gear so I didn't see the need for the heated seat. The Saddlemen seat does complement the bikes lines very well. The way I look at it is if you sit on anything long enough you are going to need to stand up and stretch out after a while. By the stock seat left me in pain so that had to go. 🙂 My friend still has the stock seat on his and he will tell me when he needs to stop as I can keep going with the Saddlemen.
For my money it's the RDL and I mean it cuz that's what's on my '19 tour. I had one on an ST1300 years ago and it was seriously comfortable, so after I discovered the torture device that they supplied with the new gen wings for a seat, and I started pricing the RDL... took me a minute to get because we bought property and moved in 2020.. and things like tractors had to take priority.. butt now it's on and now I can cruise the Texas Hill Country or head for either coast and not worry about my backside..
Awww we wanna move to the country a get a sweet tractor 🚜 ! Dang financial priorities… Lotsa folks love that cushy, mushy support that an RDL gives - We were really thinking their structure looked 👀 comfortable… Glad it’s working for you and thanks so much for watching and weighing in- Stay comfy!
@@MiddleAgeRoadRage Shape is a big part of it.. on the previous gen 'wing stock seat I could do an Iron Butt ride with out meaning to.. both the RDL on the new wing and stock on the old support your whole butt evenly which means no shifting around trying to get comfortable because one part is supporting all your weight which is the major malfunction with the stock seat ... and it's only mushy compared to Corbin.. just about anything else out there is lots fluffier.. (and thus not that great for real long distance)
The Jeff Ward?- there’s a racing name that likes to go fast… But seriously, chalk another one up for Corbin… they’ve got lotsa votes in our comments section- Seems to be the fan favorite! Thanks for taking time to watch and write in!
Firm is good! Plush is not! Corbin saddle reminds me of the leather seats in an old Mercedes car I had years ago. The Corbin isn't cheap, but I have never regretted the money spent for it.
Kake has a Corbin and loves it. The Corbin is too stiff for my rear end. So I looked into the Russell Day Long and thought I would go with them because of the softer foam, plus the factory is only about 225 mi from our doorstep. Butt (lol) I just never got around to making an appointment. I purchased an Airhawk seat pad, and it was okay. Not great, but better than my stocked seat. I'm sure whatever your final choice is, it will be well worth it. Good luck with your search
It’s such a personal choice and every body’s anatomy is unique- People do have good things to say about that Airhawk- I guess we all can agree that stock is not the best 😂 Thanks for watching the vid and taking time to make a comment- we are grateful
Great video. Sorry. been away for a while. TH-cam does not notify me of your posts. Foe me, I have had Hartco Saddles custom made to my dimensions for my last 3 Touring motorcycles. My experience, after a long day, 300 - 500 miles, I have little to no discomfort. As with any custom saddle, it takes a few thousand miles for the memory foam to learn ones tush. But after that it's truly great. I also like how Hartco, Russel and a few others don;t use the factory frame. Makes for a truly custom saddle and fit. Corventure Dave
Heyyyy welcome back! Good to hear from you. We will have to look up and check out Hartco Saddles- Everything requires a break in, that’s for sure- and every body’s anatomy is different- But it’s good hear everyone’s different experiences with differing seats- We know anything has to be better than stock- we’re hoping to find the best for us… Thx for popping by and writing in-
Omigosh yer right- these are good problems to have- Black- we can’t go back! But maybe mixing different textures? Like maybe smooth and croc 🐊? Thx for watching and writing in! We appreciate it-
Thanks for watching and writing in- That certainly sounds like an affordable option. We Definitely have heard some good things from friends who have tried them- Appreciate you bringing those into the conversation- Enjoy your comfort and ride safe
It’s a tough decision and we don’t want buyers remorse…but budget wise, that Road Sofa is looking pretty good 👍 ! Thank for making time to check it out and check in…
Mustang. Has an RDL on my deuce and it was ok, traded the deuce for a road king, got the mustang deluxe your and have never no looked back Corbins are like sitting on a cement sidewalk
Cement sidewalk? Wow ! 😂 that is the BEST description we have heard about their stiffness! So we are hearing more and more about Mustang…glad you found something comfy that suits you… What year Road King do you have? Ours is 02… Thx for watching and writing in- We appreciate it!
keep the cheep seat and buy an air cushion blow it up to your comfort level and its adjustable 30-50$ or blow the wad on an air hawk you wont be unhappy
Many of our friends we ride with say the same- What an affordable solution that is customizable too. Thank you for you valuable feedback- We appreciate you watching and writing in-
Get for watching and weighing in- There is always lots of talk with the waterproofing issues…How have you handled that ? Do you live somewhere dry? Curious…
@@MiddleAgeRoadRage First, let me say that I have had an Ultimate on my 1500 Goldwing and now my 1800 Goldwing. I LOVE THEM!! I've spoken to the shop personel in Canada and Florida, and they are great. Their return policy is excellent. I even got my brother one for his 1800 and he loves it as well. To be honest, I did try other aftermarket seats, but the Ultimate (for me) was far better than anything I've ridden on. In reference to the waterproofing, I have never had any problem at all. Mind you, I have not been in any major down pours, but for standard water issues, including washing the bike, not one issue. The cover was free and no hassle to put on. I always cover my seat when I get off from the sun, birds, rain, etc, just by habit. I guess it all boils down to how you protect your seat.
@@toanogreen wow- thanks for all this information and positive reply- I am so glad you have had great luck with Ultimate- Being in Southern Cal, wetness is not typically a factor either- except this year has been rainy like crazy...thank you ago for you opinion and help :)
I have a Saddleman Road Sofa on my 2022 Goldwing. (About $900.00 with back rest) I bought it because it was "off the rack" and I could just throw it in a cart and purchase. It's pretty good, and much better than stock, but I'm old and I need soft. My buddy has a Russell Day Long (about $1400.00). The thing about Russell is you have to be put on a waiting list, and preferably make an appointment at the facility for a fitting. This could take a few months, so I opted out. It is a very plush seat and had I had the time I would have chosen the Russell. ( I do coast to coast rides). Another note: If you get the stitching (like I did) and it rains, water will leak through the upholstery and you will have wet foam and you will get swamp ass.
Hey there- thank for watching. Butt (get it?) we thank you even more for your insight and information review comment of the Saddleman vs RDL- The stitching issue sounds serious- and we’ve heard this is a flaw/issue with folks who use the Ultimate Seat- Comfort is King- The RDL seems to be a winner there- It’s not the best looking, but probably does the best job overall for comfort!
Hey- thanks for watching and leaving a comment- We do hear often about Corbin’s break in period. It seems we hear more positive than negative comments overall…
Isn't it a shame that you pay $30 K. for a bike and get a $30 seat? ALL of the Manufacturers put cheap seats on their bikes. I have been using Corbin for the last 20 years on my 'Wings. They are firm. They have support. Soft and plush is not the answer. They won't change after 100K. miles. You will not have a sore butt after a 700 mile day, or a week of long days in the saddle. OR a chapped butt and you men know what goes with that. The leather seating area will absolutely not sweat your butt, crotch, and thighs. The plastic or "Noggy-hide" absolutely will sweat you. Corbin closed their East coast location, so a drive in service is out for East U.S. I don't know about the other aftermarket seats, but I can tell you to save your money as far as beads, airbags, animal skins, etc. Happy Trails!
$30 seat- that’s funny and seemingly correct 🫠even tho maybe $5? We agree that the Corbin is stiff- but the way the mold it to you in the ride service seems top notch- sorry to discover that the east coast is ending the ride in- wow ! Lucky for us, they’re only about a three hour or so ride from here… Thank you soooo much for watching and taking the time to comment. And for sharing your opinion with such an informative comment!
I like the Corbin on my 2014 Wing, (seat as purchased June of 2022,) but I can't recommend one to anyone with a Wing because Corbin is not willing or capable of building a seat heater that works with the electronics of the bike. The Thermistors are out of specifications to get the heater control module to turn on the heating element. I just had my seat returned from Corbin, (12/11/23) and they say it works fine. Customer service, response, updates were non-existent. Their failure to admit they have a problem with the electronics in the seat is unbelievable. The seat heaters appear to have had issues for a very, very long time. I think if I were there, I'd step up their program so the seats actually function with the bike they are designed for. Did I say I am extremely disappointed with Corbin?
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Had a Russell DL on my '99 Valkyrie Interstate and loved it. Completed a few 6-8k rides xcountry and realized that I didn't even think about the seat. It was a perfect fit and so comfortable it didn't register in my thoughts. Great Customer Service!
What a great testimonial-
And you’re right- one shouldn’t have to think about it all…
Apparently the designers of the Gen 6 do not subscribe to this philosophy?
Sounds like you’ve seen a lot of this country…
Stay safe out there and thanks for taking time to share your POV on the RDL-
So tough because everyone is different... But I went with the Saddleman Road Sofa LS for my 2021 Goldwing and I love it. Good video.
Heyyy thank you for taking time to watch and write in.
We like SaddleMen on our Street Bob for sure… and thx for your kind comment too.
None of those. Here's what I did. 2021 GW Tour. Remove seat, remove staples, peel back cover, peel back heating element, I took a 1/2 hole saw and cut out perfectly round pieces of foam. All the way down to seat pan, I spaced them 1.5 inches apart. I did this across the entire span of the seat. This allows the foam to compress much easier, next j bought a 1/2 inch gel pad from Amazon. $60. I then cut out the exact pattern into the foam, I used spray adhesive and placed the gel pad directly into the cutout. Perfect fit. I replaced heating element and cover. Re stapled the cover, done. I put ten thousand miles on this seat. It's absolutely perfect. All in cost me $65.
You WIN the grand prize for ingenuity and problem-solving- I just read this to my husband and you should’ve seen his face light up. Then you should’ve seen his face sink, when he realized he didn’t want to be responsible for this level of risk. And by risk, I mean laziness. Perhaps I can convince him to do a little aftermarket customization in our garage like you did sounds like a wonderful way to attack the problem, and in the most and the most affordable way yet.
Thanks for this information and thanks for watching the video- really grateful-
@@MiddleAgeRoadRage it's really not that complicated. As long as he takes his time, he really can't screw it up.
I don’t know anyone who would do this so while you are clearly talented and good with money I know a lot of people who wouldn’t touch a stock seat. But well done 👍🏻
Russell day-long is worth it. I love mine.
Heyyyy thanks for weighing in- Lotsa Corbin Army in this feed… nice to see ya 👋 how long have u had it?
Stock seat with a sheepskin pad. Works for me.
We can trust this information coming from someone with a handle like but_but629!
Thanks for stopping by and letting us and the community know what works for you-
We appreciate it.
All are good seats, I've had them all, I've had Road Kings, Softails, Electra Glides, Honda CB's, Honda Goldwings all with different seats. I like to do long rides mostly 400-500 mile days with 10-20 days out per trip. I currently have the Russel Day Long seat on my 2020 Goldwing Tour, and it's been the best seat I've ever sat on for long rides. Zero to very very minimum discomfort on long days on the bike, and at the end of the day or trip I'm absolutely feeling more energetic and comfortable. I'm 75, been doing this since I was 15, I really like and highly recommend the Russel Day Long seat for longer rides.
Thanks for noticing the video and letting us know your experience with an RDL…
Did you go in person for a seat fitment session?
We agree w u- we feel the RDL. Is the most comfortable we showroom tested, for sure.
We hope to take a long ride on one soon.
We value strong opinions from experienced riders such as yourself. We’re grateful for your feedback.
@@MiddleAgeRoadRage Yes, I went in for a fitting, rode the bike in got there about 8:30, they gave me my first fitting and took measurements and ask what I specifically wanted in the seat fit, they gave me a loaner seat for my bike and I took off for a local ride. The called me to come in for my first test fit, they made a few adjustments, and I left for lunch, later they called me back for the final fitting, Everything was good, so they put the seat together and called me about 2 hours later to put the new seat on my bike. The whole fitting to finished seat took about 6 1/2 hours. I rode the bike home that day which was about 260 miles and just loved the feel and comfort of the seat!
@@CharlesCarpenter-jh6bs your testimonial is certainly the type of service and timing that resonates with us…
Thanks for sharing these more specific details…
I've been riding with a Corbin seat on 4 goldwings since 1996. It is very firm and your butt breaks in before the seat, had a 2002 goldwing with a Corbin, drove 105,000 miles on it, did (6) 1,000+ mile IBA and (2) 1,500+ mile IBA runs. My 2021 GW Tour DCT has a Corbin. Bottom (pun intended) line, it's what fits your bottom that makes the seat work 😃
What an amazing testimony from a long distance touring- we agree on how firm it seems-
Can we ask if you chose the ride in service? Or did you ship your seat in ?
Thanks for your response- we appreciate you taking time to watch and write in-
I live in the northeast and they shipped it from California at a special rate of $150 (based on the size box it would normally cost $300). I had an issue and had to send it back at no cost either way for me. I carry an Airhawk seat cushion with me for long highway rides. I rode the stock seat 20 miles home from the shop when I bought it and replaced the seat that day 😅
@@robertlorentz3670 well- apparently you know the diff btw a saddle and a brick! you are preaching to the choir- glad your choice worked out for you, with good shipping support- thx for weighing on this- we appreciate the help-
We've heard a lot of great things about all three seats. We wish we could sell RDL on WingStuff but they understandably only sell direct. As you mentioned in your vid it really comes down to rider preference. One rider might absolutely love a stiffer Corbin seat while the next guy or gal might hate it! Our owner, Rick, has a Corbin on his Wing and he's very happy with it. He feels that it compliments his Helibars perfectly!
Hey Wingstuff! Love hearing from our fave retailer of stuff for Wings!
It’s so true- anatomy really makes the difference when it comes to preference- I’m sure most of us can agree stock sux, but a consensus on the aftermarket is really a split decision!
Thx as always for stopping by and taking time to reach out and weigh in!
I JUST closed the Wingstuff browser tab before I read this comment! No wonder I've never seen RDL on the Wingstuff website.The stock seat does alright for me, especially since my bike is second hand and the previous owner has already done the breaking in for me. I'm contemplating the Utopia driver back rest at this time.
i've been riding since the 70's and i now have the best seat in my life. hartco diamond on a 2022 gw tour with an ultimate passenger backrest
Congratulations on finding a solution you’re happy with!!
Thanks for sharing another option with us and our viewers-
Thank you for watching and taking the time to write in.
In my opinion I would have to go with the Saddleman seat.
We def like their step up seat on the ol’ Dyna Street Bob…
It’s an interesting problem to have-
Curious 👀 to see who has what?
Thx for stopping by…
Ignorance is bliss.... Ive never had the opportunity to experience an aftermarket seat so I have no idea what Im missing 😂
We hate to “butt” in with our opinions, long rides maketh one suffer sometimes😂😅
It ain’t bliss after 3+ hours on that stock seat…
The SaddleMen seems the most affordable-
Thank you for checking it out, and checking in with a comment
I’ve had, Ultimate, Hartco Diamond and one other I can’t remember, and every seat did not get me to two hours without butt pain. I now have a 2023 GL1800 Tour and the stock seat can’t get me to one hour without butt pain. I had the Wingsoft modification incorporated, but still can’t get to two hours. This week I got my production date for my first RDL seat and can’t wait to get it installed and hopefully get some serious hours in the seat.
Looks like you may finally get the comfort you desire and deserve.
Be sure to let us know how it works out for you?
Thank you so much for taking time to both watch and write in- we appreciate it so much
I have the same issue. Ive tried ultimate, Corbin and all the different seat pads. How are you liking the Russell so far.
I received my RDL seat and used it for around 1000 miles. It was an improvement over the OEM seat, but I started feeling uncomfortable after 90-105 minutes. I spoke to RDL and they requested I send the seat back for adjustment. The builder of my seat actually called me and we discussed about discomfort areas. My seat was turned in less than a week and the result is night and day. So far seat is working well for me and my wife and have not found a ride limit due to discomfort. Without a doubt this is the most comfortable motorcycle seat I’ve had the pleasure to ride on. Highly recommend Russell products and their team.
Please see my response to John Smith. All the Best, James.
@@jameshales6958 thank you for the response. Im currently using a Corbin on my r 18b. Way better than stock. After 90 minutes my but is starting to hurt. I have a build date in august with Russell. Can't wait.
I have tried them all I believe in my 40 yrs or riding and I almost always comeback to RDL. I cant tell you how much money I have spent on seats and almost give them away to try another type. I am not waiting on my build date to come for my 4th RDL and I will never go back to anything else.
Hey there !
Thank you for your RDL vote-
It looks like it truly offers the most level of support and comfort-
What a testimonial-
Thanks again for taking time to comment!
We appreciate you-
I have owned a half dozen or so HD touring bikes and invested in HD, Russell, Mustang and Corbin seats for long distance riding. I am an above average built guy and ride 10-20,000 miles per year and have had many day end pains. I heard about the Russel Day Long seats from a Gold Wing blog and decided to give them a try. The Mustang and Corbin seats were most painful to me on long
rides. The Russel seat is by far the best touring seat I have ridden long distances on. For me, I will always have a Russell Day Long seat on any touring bike I own. The customer service, quality and comfort is best in class of the seats I have owned.
We really appreciate your honest testimonial-
We agree - when comes to comfort, can anyone beat the RDL-
Our butts like Russell-
Our eyes like Corbin
And
Our wallets love SaddleMen-
Hence our unique problem.
Thank you for watching our video- and thank you even more for sharing your opinions by commenting- we really appreciate it.
I have been using the Road Sofa since June of 2022 and it is night and day compared to the the stock seat. I can go 3 hours straight without any of the pain that I would have with the stock seat.
I would love to try the Russell day long but there is no way to do that without buying it ;-)
So glad to hear you can ride longer! The road sofa sounds like a good choice economically and ergonomically. Thanks for your testimonial on that.
The Russell has a lot of fans and evangelists, but the lines of the bike work don’t seem to flow with the RDL seat in our eyes 👀
It’s good there is choice …
And we think it’s a matter of anatomy vs aesthetic vs budget.
Thank you so much for weighing in on this matter-
And for taking time to watch as well.
You get the one with heat?
@@MiddleAgeRoadRage I did not get the one with heat. I have heated gear so I didn't see the need for the heated seat. The Saddlemen seat does complement the bikes lines very well.
The way I look at it is if you sit on anything long enough you are going to need to stand up and stretch out after a while. By the stock seat left me in pain so that had to go. 🙂
My friend still has the stock seat on his and he will tell me when he needs to stop as I can keep going with the Saddlemen.
I’m looking at a Road Sofa now and saw a heat element with wiring , made by Saddleman. So I’ll buy without , knowing I can add later.
For my money it's the RDL and I mean it cuz that's what's on my '19 tour. I had one on an ST1300 years ago and it was seriously comfortable, so after I discovered the torture device that they supplied with the new gen wings for a seat, and I started pricing the RDL... took me a minute to get because we bought property and moved in 2020.. and things like tractors had to take priority.. butt now it's on and now I can cruise the Texas Hill Country or head for either coast and not worry about my backside..
Awww we wanna move to the country a get a sweet tractor 🚜 !
Dang financial priorities…
Lotsa folks love that cushy, mushy support that an RDL gives -
We were really thinking their structure looked 👀 comfortable…
Glad it’s working for you and thanks so much for watching and weighing in-
Stay comfy!
@@MiddleAgeRoadRage Shape is a big part of it.. on the previous gen 'wing stock seat I could do an Iron Butt ride with out meaning to.. both the RDL on the new wing and stock on the old support your whole butt evenly which means no shifting around trying to get comfortable because one part is supporting all your weight which is the major malfunction with the stock seat ... and it's only mushy compared to Corbin.. just about anything else out there is lots fluffier.. (and thus not that great for real long distance)
@@mnewstadt1 we agree that the old Goldwing saddle is leaps and bounds better-
Nuthin’ like “old gold”
I went with the Corbin saddle. The Ergonomics are great. Seat is firm but no issue for me.
The Jeff Ward?- there’s a racing name that likes to go fast…
But seriously, chalk another one up for Corbin… they’ve got lotsa votes in our comments section-
Seems to be the fan favorite!
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Firm is good! Plush is not! Corbin saddle reminds me of the leather seats in an old Mercedes car I had years ago. The Corbin isn't cheap, but I have never regretted the money spent for it.
Kake has a Corbin and loves it. The Corbin is too stiff for my rear end. So I looked into the Russell Day Long and thought I would go with them because of the softer foam, plus the factory is only about 225 mi from our doorstep. Butt (lol) I just never got around to making an appointment.
I purchased an Airhawk seat pad, and it was okay. Not great, but better than my stocked seat. I'm sure whatever your final choice is, it will be well worth it. Good luck with your search
It’s such a personal choice and every body’s anatomy is unique-
People do have good things to say about that Airhawk-
I guess we all can agree that stock is not the best 😂
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Great video.
Sorry. been away for a while. TH-cam does not notify me of your posts.
Foe me, I have had Hartco Saddles custom made to my dimensions for my last 3 Touring
motorcycles. My experience, after a long day, 300 - 500 miles, I have little to no discomfort.
As with any custom saddle, it takes a few thousand miles for the memory foam to learn ones
tush. But after that it's truly great.
I also like how Hartco, Russel and a few others don;t use the factory frame. Makes for a truly custom saddle and fit.
Corventure Dave
Heyyyy welcome back!
Good to hear from you.
We will have to look up and check out Hartco Saddles-
Everything requires a break in, that’s for sure- and every body’s anatomy is different-
But it’s good hear everyone’s different experiences with differing seats-
We know anything has to be better than stock- we’re hoping to find the best for us…
Thx for popping by and writing in-
Choice is a luxury! My guess is you guys are sticking with black on black?
Omigosh yer right- these are good problems to have-
Black- we can’t go back! But maybe mixing different textures? Like maybe smooth and croc 🐊?
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We appreciate it-
Great video 👍👍👍
Hello 👋 thank you for watching and writing!!! We appreciate you!!
I purchased 2 AirHawk Air Pads for my 2022 Goldwing...for Me and my wife....They work quite well...$100 each..??
Thanks for watching and writing in-
That certainly sounds like an affordable option.
We
Definitely have heard some good things from friends who have tried them-
Appreciate you bringing those into the conversation-
Enjoy your comfort and ride safe
Currently running a Honda soft on my 18 wing. Love it.
Nice!! Thanks for watching and commenting- well have to check into it-
So what did you
End up
With??
It’s a tough decision and we don’t want buyers remorse…but budget wise, that Road Sofa is looking pretty good 👍 !
Thank for making time to check it out and check in…
Mustang. Has an RDL on my deuce and it was ok, traded the deuce for a road king, got the mustang deluxe your and have never no looked back Corbins are like sitting on a cement sidewalk
Cement sidewalk?
Wow ! 😂 that is the BEST description we have heard about their stiffness!
So we are hearing more and more about Mustang…glad you found something comfy that suits you…
What year Road King do you have?
Ours is 02…
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We appreciate it!
keep the cheep seat and buy an air cushion blow it up to your comfort level and its adjustable 30-50$ or blow the wad on an air hawk you wont be unhappy
Many of our friends we ride with say the same-
What an affordable solution that is customizable too.
Thank you for you valuable feedback-
We appreciate you watching and writing in-
Ultimate brand is well.....the ultimate.
Get for watching and weighing in-
There is always lots of talk with the waterproofing issues…How have you handled that ? Do you live somewhere dry?
Curious…
Wait! Did you say but cuddling?
Oh yeah - 🤣the RDL ! Hahahaha
What about Ultimate Seats???
Hello there- thx for watching and writing in- do u have one?
Our concern was all the talk about the waterproofing issues and having to carry a cover?
@@MiddleAgeRoadRage First, let me say that I have had an Ultimate on my 1500 Goldwing and now my 1800 Goldwing. I LOVE THEM!! I've spoken to the shop personel in Canada and Florida, and they are great. Their return policy is excellent. I even got my brother one for his 1800 and he loves it as well. To be honest, I did try other aftermarket seats, but the Ultimate (for me) was far better than anything I've ridden on.
In reference to the waterproofing, I have never had any problem at all. Mind you, I have not been in any major down pours, but for standard water issues, including washing the bike, not one issue. The cover was free and no hassle to put on. I always cover my seat when I get off from the sun, birds, rain, etc, just by habit. I guess it all boils down to how you protect your seat.
@@toanogreen wow- thanks for all this information and positive reply- I am so glad you have had great luck with Ultimate- Being in Southern Cal, wetness is not typically a factor either- except this year has been rainy like crazy...thank you ago for you opinion and help :)
There all great choices why not just flip a coin.
Ya got a three year sided coin? 😂 it’s tough to decide…
Thx and grateful that you watched the video and took time to write ✍🏻
I have a Saddleman Road Sofa on my 2022 Goldwing. (About $900.00 with back rest) I bought it because it was "off the rack" and I could just throw it in a cart and purchase. It's pretty good, and much better than stock, but I'm old and I need soft. My buddy has a Russell Day Long (about $1400.00). The thing about Russell is you have to be put on a waiting list, and preferably make an appointment at the facility for a fitting. This could take a few months, so I opted out. It is a very plush seat and had I had the time I would have chosen the Russell. ( I do coast to coast rides). Another note: If you get the stitching (like I did) and it rains, water will leak through the upholstery and you will have wet foam and you will get swamp ass.
Hey there- thank for watching.
Butt (get it?) we thank you even more for your insight and information review comment of the Saddleman vs RDL-
The stitching issue sounds serious- and we’ve heard this is a flaw/issue with folks who use the Ultimate Seat-
Comfort is King-
The RDL seems to be a winner there-
It’s not the best looking, but probably does the best job overall for comfort!
I knew several people that have Corbin and they say the stiffness was only noticeable at first. They have a great reputation.
Hey- thanks for watching and leaving a comment-
We do hear often about Corbin’s break in period. It seems we hear more positive than negative comments overall…
Ultimate Seats
There are a lotta of u fans out there-
How long have u had yours?
Whatcha riding?
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Isn't it a shame that you pay $30 K. for a bike and get a $30 seat? ALL of the Manufacturers put cheap seats on their bikes. I have been using Corbin for the last 20 years on my 'Wings. They are firm. They have support. Soft and plush is not the answer. They won't change after 100K. miles. You will not have a sore butt after a 700 mile day, or a week of long days in the saddle. OR a chapped butt and you men know what goes with that. The leather seating area will absolutely not sweat your butt, crotch, and thighs. The plastic or "Noggy-hide" absolutely will sweat you. Corbin closed their East coast location, so a drive in service is out for East U.S. I don't know about the other aftermarket seats, but I can tell you to save your money as far as beads, airbags, animal skins, etc. Happy Trails!
$30 seat- that’s funny and seemingly correct 🫠even tho maybe $5? We agree that the Corbin is stiff- but the way the mold it to you in the ride service seems top notch- sorry to discover that the east coast is ending the ride in- wow !
Lucky for us, they’re only about a three hour or so ride from here…
Thank you soooo much for watching and taking the time to comment.
And for sharing your opinion with such an informative comment!
AIRHAWK SEAT CUSHIONS ARE WELL WORTH ONES INVESTMENT.
@@treadhead maybe for a few hours. A friend went out west with me in'18. Stock seat and a airhawk. He frisbeed it off an overlook in WY.
I like the Corbin on my 2014 Wing, (seat as purchased June of 2022,) but I can't recommend one to anyone with a Wing because Corbin is not willing or capable of building a seat heater that works with the electronics of the bike. The Thermistors are out of specifications to get the heater control module to turn on the heating element. I just had my seat returned from Corbin, (12/11/23) and they say it works fine. Customer service, response, updates were non-existent. Their failure to admit they have a problem with the electronics in the seat is unbelievable. The seat heaters appear to have had issues for a very, very long time. I think if I were there, I'd step up their program so the seats actually function with the bike they are designed for. Did I say I am extremely disappointed with Corbin?
@@johnniegroot9166 I agree. I ordered a Corbin for my bmw r18. Same thing. the seat barely heats up.