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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2022
- The 30th anniversary of Kirby just doesn't stop. Starting of the year with Forgotten land and in the middle with Dream Buffet, another Kirby game has been announced from the most recent Nintendo Direct. Kirby Return to Dream Land Deluxe is a remaster? remake? of the original back on Wii and by all accounts Hal laboratory looks like they're giving it their all in making this game the best version of Return to Dream Land, however I have some minor problems with the execution.
Music used:
Planet Popstar - Kirby 64
Running through a New World - Kirby and the Forgotten Land
Cookie Country - Kirby Return to Dream Land
City Trial - Kirby Airide
City Trial: Huge Pillar - Kirby Airide
Kirby's Adventure: Forest Stage - Kirby Airide
Hope Ster - Digimon Cyber Sleuth - เกม
Updated thoughts here: th-cam.com/video/CpaZe9NWxuc/w-d-xo.html
Kirby Return to Dreamland was the game that got me pulled into the Kirby franchise and will forever have a special place in my heart.
So seeing the game I hold dear to my heart get a remastered for the Nintendo Switch, really pulls my heart strings.
Also, in my opinion, the outlines make the Kirby game have a almost comic style which I like and the models are obviously referencing to Kirby Forgotten Land.
*I also wonder, since they added some new stuff, will Morpho Knight make an appearance? Not like part of the story but like, as a challenge boss or something?*
Same
I don't hope for him to be in this version...
Don't get me wrong, morpho knight is an awesome boss, however he felt more like a replacement of Galacta Knight, wich does appear in the original Kirby return to Dreamland, as a secret boss in true Arena.
And I really wish to galacta to come back, not only his theme sound more epic (it may not sound tense as morpho, but it make you feel like you're being overwhelmed by galacta), but he is also a classic to many.
And sadly, I don't think it's possible for both to be in the same game due to how similar they are (and maybe in term of lore, but Kirby's lore is already weird when you know morpho, one big nightmare to the community, is a butterfly)...
@@milectarx6561 there are already too much modern gk battles, having him appear in rtdl again would be lame
@@leedlelel2373 So you want Morpho to reappear over and over to the point he become "lame" in the same way as Galacta Knight ?
@@milectarx6561 sure, one last appearance would be nice
Aren’t Kirby fans always eating?? It’s like they’re only thing
yeah, you're right.
Nom nom nom.
We don't just eat. We also suck.
@@bonkmaykr suck? We also supernova suck
@@bonkmaykr succ*
The way they should handle the outlines (in my opinion) is have the outlines as an optional accessibility feature, where it can be toggled to player preference, kinda like how you can enable or disable outlines in Smash Bros 3DS
You’re thinking of smash on the 3DS thats the one with outlines
@@FrankEShaw05 ah yeah, I knew it was either Ultimate or that, cus I have only played those 2
YES!!!
Without outlines, it would look like kirby fighters 2. Kirby fighters 2 was the system's only good quality Kirby game until this definitive remake showed up during the latest direct.
@@MetaGamingDojo what's your problem with forgotten land
Other than Dedede's design here, I think everything about this remaster looks neat. :)
Why Dededes design?
@@EkilGamer I dunno. Feels a little squinted.
Dedede design is awful
@@JadeiteMcSwag he is cursed
dedede looks awful
I don’t know, I honestly really like the outlines. The art style it seems they’re going for is really appealing in my opinion and while yeah it’s a bit pixelated, I don’t think people would notice it. I mean I didn’t until you pointed it out
Honestly, same. I, really enjoy how the outlines look. Although, I hope they get less pixely.
Yeah, it looks like wind waker
Same. It gives this game a indentity
He didn't notice that in general all the light and shadows are a lot better
I dont think they would pop that much on the switch lil screen.
I think the game looks fine. To be honest I really enjoy the character outlines, it really makes it stick out!
Yeah
i miss the old font
agreed 😊
It makes it look like a cartoon!
The game is so bad do not play it I regret spending 60 dollars on this cash grab
I'm Canadian guys, that's why I say $80. Also I was wrong, you CAN still add funds to your account, just not on Nintendo Eshop itself on the wiiu and 3ds. Then it closes on March 2023.
C A N A D A
Yeah No,
Americans will not pay $80
As a fellow Canadian, I just default to 60 when talking to others, saves a lot of trouble.
@@castform7 I guess I should too.
Let's just change CAD to "Maple Bucks" and USD to "Freedom Dollars"
I feel like the outlines are meant to make the characters look more like they fit in a storybook, which the cutscenes give me the vibe of.
I would like to see a new version of Metanightmare but with Magolor as the main character and they could make a story for this like: after kirby saved magolor from the master crowns control he got teleported into a strange dimension and now he has to find a way back to dreamland
Maybe with a redemption arc or something, because of Magolor, I have developped trust issues with Kirby's partners :D
But, yeah, Magolor is a memorable boss for betraying/manipulating you, and having two distinct boss appearance.
Edit After five month:
Well, would you look at that.
A magolor's redemption arc where he get teleported into another dimension.
plus they already have a moveset created from star allies to either copy or build off of
There is a leak in which it says there will be a mode called magolor epilogue. I maybe predicted the mode just three months ago.
Damn you literally predicted the whole thing
Ah, so they were holding out on us!
The outlines are going to be extremely helpful when playing with 4 players. This will probably be one of the best couch coop 2d platformers on the console, with a lot of thanks to that design choice. I believe it is made to enhance gameplay!
That's fair, but I thought the game worked well beforehand without the outlines, but like I said it's just a personally preference for me. Also this reminds me how good Kirby multiplayer is, really is the best of any nintendo game.
@@HonchoV1 hope my comment doesn't sound angry. At very first (after the excitement wore off) I wasn't a fan of the art style. But after completing many 2d multi-player platformers, I find myself appreciating changes like these.
@@DRjaffy Not at all! It's definitely important that changes like these that enhance gameplay do happen, I just had some minor issues with the implementation.
True. But they are far too thick for me. And the colour of them is too jarring.
...Couch coop.
I honestly kinda like the outlines (I’m a sucker for stylish 3D stuff lol) but I do agree that in some scenarios (like the sunset example you gave) the version without the outlines and the different shading looks cooler than the other one
Either way, I like how both versions of the game looks. They’re both awesome
3:08 kirby did use outlines on the 3ds, but only on kirby battle royale
Also, the outlines do change with each character
Hello, egg!
Hopefully the outlines are toggleable
Maybe they are, but I'm not expecting it
@@HonchoV1 Smash Bros for 3DS?
@@HonchoV1 Considering how we’re still several months away from release, we may get a random video drop or something like that explain more about what this games offers compared to the original, and there’s always a chance the outlines will be mentioned
Finagle's Law. They won't be.
@@HonchoV1 Me neither. Finagle's Law.
What I really want to see is a playable mode for Magolor, similar to his playable self in Star Allies. This along with him being playable in the sub games would be nice
your wish is granted
Yeah when I saw it in the direct I had mixed feeling about the visuals. It reminded me of Smash Bros. on the 3DS with those weird outlines. Hopefully they'll at least give us an option to turn them off or make them less intense. But this is Nintendo we're talking about so who knows.
Finagle's Law. They won't.
Kirby is made by Hal Labs, Nintendo just publishes the games. So Nintendo isn't the one making the Kirby games.
@Why Can't I Have A Proper Username What makes you say that?
You can turn off the outlines in smash 3ds
@@RyansChannel0203 It's how I avoid severe disappointment.
my roomate owns forgotten land, hasn't played it, and then when dream buffet comes out he says "I wanted a more main line real kirby game"
I say "did you open forgotten land yet?"
he didn't answer lmao.
I think the outlines are good. They just need to make sure the characters are still shaded by the environmental lighting to make it look not too jarring
Edited very well, keep up the good work
I definitely agree with the sticker criticism. I don’t like how the lighting doesn’t really effect the characters at all. It’s also strange since forgotten land didn’t do this at all and it was beautiful
I think they’ll add the option to turn outlines off, making them blend in, like how some smash games had toggled outlines. Definitely gonna be a high class switch remake ☕️🗿
Kirby Returns to Dreamland was the game that got me into the Kirby franchise 🥰. It was the first Kirby game I’ve ever played.
This is a really good video! I don't think that I've seen anyone nitpick about the change in character design for this remaster, but the attention to the agreement (or in this case, disagreement) between character designs and background designs makes a lot of sense!
2:02 was hilarious! I am super excited for this game, really funny and great video, you’ve earned my sub!
Thanks! can't wait for it to come out too!
5:38 me who still owns my physical copy of the game: "I missed the part where that's my problem."
Same with me
never played return to dreamland so im excited as heck for this
I think another reason why there are outlines is for handheld mode. For people playing multiplayer on handheld mode the outlines would help a lot, still tho ye there should at least be an option to turn them off (even if it'd just look like SA and lose it's own identity with the art style)
“Can I call you Hal?”
You smoove bud, real smoove
I love the editing here, subscribed
Gonna be honest I really like the outlines
Same
Kirby's Return to Dream Land is one of my favorite games of all time, so seeing that its gonna get a remake/remaster on the Nintendo Switch, which is something that I've been wanting since the Spyro Reignited Trilogy, makes me VERY excited.
Tho about the graphics, yeah that's something my little brother's concerned on, but who knows? Maybe they might make it better later on before its relisted on February 24th next year.
But besides that, I'm really hyped for Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe.
Finagle"s law.
@@whycantihaveaproperusernam9384 What does that mean?
@@augustbornone Anything that can go wrong, _will_ go wrong. You could've looked it up on a search like google.
@@whycantihaveaproperusernam9384 Well, lets all hope that Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe does not suffer its qualities like Sonic Colors Ultimate did.
I really loved your work, i came here by youtube recommendation and i'm definetly staying in this channel! Keep it up!
Thanks!
Had to sub, like, the quality and editing is amazing!
I look at the outline as a callback to his Handheld roots and given the name Return to dreamland it makes sense for him to have a outline aesthetically. Also its clearly a function over cosmetic decision given you can play this game on a hand held with others they make it easier to discern Kirby and his friends in that situation. As for the theme park its a reference to Kirby's 20th anniversary (And as a Spoiler alert skip this sentence if you dont want to be spoiled.) where as in that game there is a expansion to the challenge rooms incorporated into a theme park Magalor built as an apology to Kirby for trying to rule the world by taking the crown and becoming almighty and powerful in the plot to Return to Dreamland.
As such it makes me think of the possibility that the extra challenge room content in 20th anniversary that is tied to Return to Dreamland Canonically in that department is either going to be added into this release or unlocked by beating the game or fulfilling some condition.
"There is no such thing as a bad Kirby game"
-Sun "Sakurai" Tzu
The Art of Kirb
At first I was confused about it being $80 and not $60 but then I realized you are Canadian.
5:01 Jesus Christ, now I have to debate whether I want to sell my childhood game or not! I didn't know they went for this much (I checked other copies online and they often go for over $100) What do I do ;-;
I agree. What I learned while remaking some Zelda models in anime style is that using outlines doesn't always translate to a better looking result.
I’m really scared about it because of the state of remakes these days I don’t know another thing is the twist, everyone already knows the twist now.
Somehow, there are still people who don't.
@@cjrecio5702 New Kirby fans are gonna be like: “wow what a trustworthy and nice person”
It’s not a remake, it’s using the same code as the Wii game so it should be pretty much 1:1 aside from probably updated movesets and new content.
@@de-meister6437 how did you know that information?
I appreciate that ending song from cyber sleuth so much that I decided to subscribe.
TH-cam's algorythm suggested your video and I enjoyed it overall. Hope you make it to the big leagues :)
Thanks! Just played those games this summer and the soundtrack grew on me.
Absolutely top notch video. Phenomenal editing and impeccable comedic timing. Cannot believe how small this channel is for how good the content is
Imagine how the OST will sound like
HOLY SHIT I CAN'T WAIT TO LISTEN TO THEM RIPS
I don't have a switch
I didn't even consider the music getting remade. It's going to sound SO GOOD!
It'll sound the same. And that's OK.
@@whycantihaveaproperusernam9384 dammit GOD F@_$ING DAMMIT
personally i think the borders help a lot in a caotic game like this that has moments when you just don´t know whats happening on screen and youre not gonna make your 3 brothers stop playing around just to see the backround
this is me in smash bros ultimate when there’s like 8 people playing and this big stages where the characters are small, i just stare at the screen and push random buttons because i don’t know what’s happening lol
I don't mind the outline itself, I just wish it didn't look so pixelated...
Other than that, the new visual style looks gorgeous. ^^
I think that as long as your supporting new remakes from a publisher then using dolphin is perfectly harmless
0:43 I see a bug flying by his head lol
I can’t be the only one who likes the concept of outlines on the character, right? It’s a neat idea and I think it could be well executed; but with the artstyle the game has just makes it clash. I think a good compromise if they didn’t want to remove the outlines were to color them. Black is harsh, and it’s the reason why I don’t often draw using a black outline. I choose browns instead, making it much more softer. If they did that for each character (ex giving Kirby a dark pink) then I think it would actually look nice. Or yknow, just letting us toggle it off would be neat too.
Kirby's return to dreamland was one of the first games I played so I'm excited to see it return
I’ll take things I would have never noticed had this guy not pointed them out, Alex.
I love the outlines, that was literally my favorite artistic choice about it.
I think they should make the outlines less prominent so that they dont stick out like that
2:07 That's exactly what I was thinking.
I freaking love your sense of comedy 😂
super excited to play the remake
I would also like to mention that Wispy Woods' textures look really, really flat and just don't look very good. Which is ironic, because Wispy in the original game had some amount of texturing, while this Wispy just looks like a flat color was pasted on him. This makes me potentially worried for how the other bosses may look like in this game. Though, I'm sure HAL Labs will be able to fix up the texture work and maybe add a setting that either tones down or removes the thick outlines... I hope.
Finagle's Law. They won't.
Yeah it looks weird on Whispy because he’s usually a boss that’s supposed to blend in with the environment, plus you can literally see an outline on each individual bush texture where his leaves are which looks bad. I think every other boss will look fine tho. The other ones don’t really share the unique visual idea Whispy usually has.
nice to have found someone that shares my opinion. in the sunsetu the wii ver looks so much better its not just 4 kirby stickers and cannon stickers also the whispy fight the model looks less detailed. its really like they made a lot look better but at the same time make a few things look not good. I wish a kirby 64 remake a lot it could use alot of quality of life changes, its still one of my fav kirby games.
I love how it looks
The pictures released might have been from an earlier build and physical based games need to be finished two to three months ahead. So in theory November is last month of development but a patch might fix the lighting and outlines
i personally really like the outlines but i do think the way that the characters don't seem to reflect the lighting of the environment as much is a pretty solid point- i really hope that gets changed. also damn, i didn't realise it was that expensive, that's really gonna hurt my wallet.
I dont know why but i just LOVE it when in games the character has an outline on like a 3d model it just looks so cool to me
I agree it looks really cute!
1:38 Kirby's Return to Return to Dream Land...
2022 was the year of Kirby shenanigans. Forgotten Land, Beam Attack, Dream Buffet, and the announcement of this
This was really enjoyably edited, and I agree with you
i am 100% with you about the outlines. during the reveal, i was so happy about the game, since it's one of the big games i grew up with, but in the back of my mind i kept thinking about the outlines and how ugly they look. i really hope there is some way to turn it odff like in smash 3ds, but i doubt it
Doubt it? They WILL be forced onto you. I just know because I live by Finagle's Law.
I don't understand either why they put outlines on the characters I also hope that we can deactivate them but I also doubt it , but well we'll see.. Kirby star allies didn't do that and neither did kirby forgotten Island and it was very good.. and then Deedee is really weird.. on Forgotten Island it worked but there..
They will probably touch up on the outlines when it released, because if they put this much in, they might as well finish it
Well, I’m just glad I will finally get to play this game! (Since I never had a Wii)
Kirby’s return to dreamland was my first Kirby game, and seeing the artstyle change and the unnecessary new power up was weird to me.
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"Both" "Both"
"Both is good!"
the 'can i call you hal' bit got me
I love the outlines
I played the Demo last night and it looks far better. That being said I still have the Wii version and that holds up very well to this day.
Nice video man, hope your channel grows up
Litterly forgot this game was coming to switch and im a huge Kirby Birdy day
Maybe with the sunset stage, they could have made it so that the highlights made the outline less defined/ thinner?
to be honest I see the outlines as a plus I love outlines
but yeah there should be an option to turn them off for other people like you who want a more blended experience
You can’t argue about there squish in the image where the four amigo kirbys are on the rails
Love the vid bro keep up the good work 👍🏼
I love fighting king DeeDee, he was always my favorite
Return to Dreamland is my most favourite Kirby games, but I would love to see more levels as the ones the games had were amazing
I'm also really excited but I agree, the outlines weird me out and I don't know why they're there
idk who you are but i agree with your takes and love your editing so take my subscription you funny man
I think what there going for with the outlines is like a picture book or like you said stickers.
How do you not have more subscribers bro! your editing is amazing!
I still have my return to dreamland disc and case still sitting on my brothers shelf and if I had the wii again I would play it.
The outlines don't work, because there isn't a consistent enough style. it worked in Mass Attack and in the GBA/DS games because *everything* used outlines; including the backgrounds and general aesthetics. But it's just characters and enemies, while everything else is even more detailed. It's a stylistic clash. A minor, but still one nonetheless.
Finally someone else who wants an Air Ride sequel! I have so much nostalgia toward that game and it'd be so fun to play it with my friends on Switch. Hell, I'd even take a port. I just want some Air Ride, man.
4:52 same I wanna get splatoon 3, Kirby returns to dreamland deluxe, and breath of the wild 2 I also have many child memories with Kirby returns to dreamland can’t wait to relive them and I hope they don’t tune the difficulty down
as someone with poor vision and tritanopia - when you showed the comparisons between the two versions, I could actually SEE kirby with the outlines. Pink for me tends to blend into any orange/yellow/reddish backgrounds. Dirt, Desert, Sand, Sunset...
There are ways to make Kirby more visible without outlines (most other kirby games manage it fine)... but long short story is me happy :)
thing is, some people like outlines and some people dont.
5:59 lol I bought my copy of return to dream like a year ago and I found it for $19.99 USD at a vintage stock/movie trading Company
I'm hoping the low resolution of the outlines is just due to the compression from youtube. There's been SO many games that look weirdly low res on the TH-cam trailers but perfectly fine in person
The outlines are actually coloured in-game. I know that's a minor nitpick, but it was fairly easy to spot in a lot of the footage. I think they could be brighter, like the Box Art, but they are variably coloured.
So excited for return to dreamland deluxe! :D
Finally someone make a vídeo about that
1:56
Way mow dedail and bedder cowur.
Finally! A Canadian TH-cam! You’ve earned yourself a subscriber, good job! 🙌🙌🙌🙌
just 3 seconds and I already laughed, here you have my like and comment man
0:37 Kirby is just so adorable here
It was my favorite childhood game
Great video! Love the editing :)
Glad you liked it!!
My heart stopped when he said it was $80, but that must be Canadian dollars or something cause on the US store the game is only $60.
Haha NZD would be "$100"
same happened to me 😭