Thank you for posting this Sam, both Peter and I had an absolute riot that day. Great to see our cars match up so closely (other than the race where I fell asleep?!) For two buddies that don't see each other nearly enough, I cannot stress how much this meant to both of us! We're thrilled to be a part of your channel and I hope your subscribers get the sense of joy we had racing that day. Oh and man the opening footage....our cars look so so good. Races are secondary to the sheer beauty of these two cars.
Wow really? Interesting I never knew that. People here are hooked on Aussie performance and nowadays guys are even trying their hands at using the mighty Barra in Mustangs and the like
@@blackice7408 Aussies were buying these in droves, especially the V8 models which accounted for most of the sales. Holden died because the cost of manufacturing the Commodore was too high, and the rest of their products were rebaged GM vehicles which were quite frankly, shit.
Expensive to make and no market for it. Also people weren’t buying it. The only car in this class still alive is the dodge charger unfortunately because i love rwd sedans
Got disagree I still have an 04 gto and it is an awesome car. Great quality of parts exterior and interior. Most people think it’s a newer car and have no idea what it is lol. But everyone has their own opinions and that’s ok
As a 2016 SS owner those Q50 red sports are no joke! My car is a manual with cai, 2" long tubes and 3" catted mid-pipes. Tuned it puts down right at 400 to the wheel. Lined up with one of those and we ran from about 10ish to around 70ish and they were right with me the entire way. It didn't surprise me that the Q50 did so well in this vid. Especially against the auto SS. And even though the SS is getting to be slower than a lot of these new TT V6 cars, I really don't care because it sounds AMAZING and there is no V6 made that can compete.
The sound of the LS 3 is worth giving up a few tenths. The top end is where this thing really surprises, well surprises those who don't understand V8's and torque curves and such.
Bone stock tuned only Q puts down roughly 420whp so maybe it was a jb4 or tune only Q that was right with you. It’s a fun car, mine makes a hair over 500 wheel but the sound of the LS is music!
Yeah I was going to say the same thing also I've got an SS ute VF manual. Yeah rearranging my tools is a thing yeah I'm a petrol head I also have a 2017 clubby and that hammers
i used to own an ss, sad that the modes do nothing for power only the tighten up the suspension and steering. so the modes did nothing i this video to help it
The SS is a better drivers car. The Infiniti a better daily driver. AWD spoils you. As a Q50 RS owner, it has been very reliable, runs 12s consistently at 110mph in normal conditions and 28mpg at 80mph with a 20 gallon gas tank is very efficient and convenient.
Loved my RedSport 400. Pop a simple piggy back JB4 on it and it REALLY wakes up around town and down low. Will spank the quarter mile in low to mid 12's at 114-115mph. Transmission is a dog around town under normal driving but that's expected. At WOT however, it performs very well and shifts quickly. Pop on the sport exhaust for $500 and it really sounds great. Combined with the JB4 it will scream up front as it pulls in more air and out back with a very subtle G-like tone. Just be sure to go into the hidden menu and turn off the fake sound generator so there's no drone.
The lack of depreciation on an SS coupled in with ease of maintenance and versatile platform make these car still superior to just about anything on the market even so 5 years later. The new TT platforms by BMW and Nissan are great don’t get me wrong, it’s just very hard to take anything away from something so proven as an LS in a Holden Chassis.
Why so people insist its made by Chevrolet. The SS Commodore body and most components are designed and manufactured in Oz by Holden ( a GM company) using GM engines etc. Converted to LHD and exported to the USA and rebranded an SS. Also exported to the UK rebadged as a Vauxhall VXR in supercharged RHD form.
@@hunterstacy4459 holden has designed multiple of their own 6 and 8 cylinder motors as well as their own designs, chassis and interior. Holden is a massive part of Australian culture.
I was able to rent a Infiniti Q50 through a hertz in Seattle Washington for a road trip to Montana...It turned out to be one of the greatest road trips of my life and I grew a lot of respect for the car and it's combination of effortless speed and great handling. I have a Holdon Monaro at home, A relative of the Chevy SS here and I kept on comparing the two in my head as I drove. I made a personal best driving time from Alberton Montana to Seattle Washington on a early May morning in 5 hours and 7 mins. That includes a 15-20 minute traffic stop with the Washington state patrol. Both cars are great drivers !
I am impressed that an LS based OHV pushrod engine that is supposed to be irrelevant in the day and age of DOHC, quad cammed twin turboed cars is still far more competitive and competent as well as reliable as the newer supposedly superior engines.
Love the VF Commie. Glad it sold here as an SS yet short lived (the unfortunate part) Very Aussie yet distinctly GM. Best of both worlds! Powerful LS offering.
Has a mechanical LSD, but the 2015-2017 SSs also has a rear brembo brake based torque vectoring system where it lightly applies the inside rear brake to assist in aggressive turns in performance and track mode. Fun fact, the rear 14.2 inch rotors are actually a slightly larger diameter then the 14 inch front rotors.
Sam great race. Something you would never normally see. Two really quick cars though. How about an all 80’s drag race? Fiero Vs CRX, Grand National vs Mustang Shelby, IROC vs Lotus Esprit, Eagle Talon vs RX7, Supra MkIII vs Porsche 928, M3 (E30) vs GT-R R32, Corvette (C4) vs Omni GLH
Don’t underestimate the q50 rs. As a proud owner of one I concur that these cars are sleepers in their own right. Really hope mines can hold together long term like a Honda or a Toyota though as reliability is low on Nissans in general.
Such a great match up, I’ve always loved the G8/SS/Commodore platform as well as the G35/37-Q50/60 platform. I was looking for a G8 GT or SS when the car market tanked, so I bought a 12 G37 sedan snd love it, especially for $12k. I have to say I’m not surprised but still impressed by the almost 15 year old drivetrain in the SS, LS3 and 6L80 still get it done. Both beautiful cars I’d love to own, but tilted towards SS for its rarity but also massive modding potential.
I got a Chevy caprice which is a cop car made on the g8 platform and is a commodore series 1, I got mine for $10,000 with on 66k miles and it’s a total sleeper once you fix all crap the cops broke. Can’t wait to Holden the car out but it’s basically a cheaper ss with a ls2 6.0 instead of a ls3 but it’s got a ton of performance mods for the cops so you don’t have to worry when ripping it
@@aidan8860 that’s sweet, I looked for Caprice cop cars too back when I was looking but couldn’t find the right one but that’s something I still look at sometimes, if I found one for a deal and turn it into a SS or G8 GXP or Commodore a piece at a time, I love the looks of a SS with Holden badges and trim, but they’re all $35K +
@@Daddyops I hope it works out for you, I think you’ll be happy, had mine about a year now and all I’ve done is change the oil and drive the crap out of her, 40 mile one way commute to work and I average 26-28 mpg, depends how many random street (interstate) races I get into and 140-150 mph blasts I do at 2:30 in the morning when I get off work.
So there's quite some things to mention that go unnoticed about the Q50... it was easily noticed by a Q50 enthussiast, but the average owner who just pumps gas and gets oil changes would not know. The base Q50 and Silver S Q50 is the 300hp model. The Red S 3.0t is the 400hp model. But there is more to this other than just power output. The redsport has more cooling mods in stock form than the regular 3.0. BUT it is inadequate for the racing performed in this video. Why? Well all of the Q50's are water cooled intercoolers. The front heat exchanger is literally good for about 1 quarter mile hit. Then, it will require about 3 to 5 miles of 55mph driving to bring Charge Air Temps back down to acceptable levels where the car will not pull timing. This is where having an upgraded heat exchanger helps. But still they are inadequate for back to back pulls. With a upgraded heat exchanger the temps take just a little bit longer to heat soak. Also, please keep in mind the Chevy SS is modified. Memory serves me right, the owner had it modified prior to coming back from where he was stationed while in the armed forces (much respect to that). If the Q50 was even slight modified (heat exchanger, lower downpipe, tune and a flexfuel kit on e30) (less than $2,800) It would easily trap mid to high 11's from 118mph up to 120mph. Was nice to see this video and I hope my comment helps yield some more knowledge.
The Infiniti also has twin turbos and a more modern transmission. It did good but its pushing the limit for its capacity compared to the ls3 which even with the mods you mentioned, still has a lot more to give even without boost.
Still kicking myself for walking out of a dealer offering me a new SS for way under MSRP. A lot of people got incredible deals on those once they started dumping them.
@@geerstyresoil3136 I can't ever remember another car like that. You see some hold the value or even a rare edition that goes up in value some but never something they were dumping for way under MSRP that has done what the SS has done. Easy to see why when you look at all the boxes it checks but still hard to contemplate how it has played out.
@@TheSpink02 part of the problem was there was virtually no marketing for the SS. People still to this day do not know what this car is. Also Holden was closing down so they were near the end and only produced a minimum amount to satisfy the agreement with GM NA. The enthusiasts are realizing now what a gem this car is and the last of an era.
From a documented performance perspective, the Infinity would easily win the 0-60 and quarter. The G70 3.3T currently is the only Genesis that can compete with the Q50S.
I gotta base q50 only straight piped and eat genesis for breakfast. My homies got some and we raced before and I smoke them by a car length even from a dig.
Plz tell me the Q50 at least has a heat exchanger, you said in previous vids that you give them some warmup runs, well the Q gets heat soak so fast and are dog poop after a couple of runs.
@@craigstokes5161 they do not, they come with 2 water pumps and turbo sensors but the heat exchanger is the same. Heat Exchanger is the first mod you should buy alongside new tires, tires are dog poop too.
@@craigstokes5161 Nice!!!! Yeah, I have a q60 Red Sport. Those two are definitely the best first mods. Next you need to go full bolt on then a tune my man! I was going to go full e-85 with a hpfp, lpfp and a flex fuel kit, but not a lot of e-85 in my area, figured it wasn't worth.
Thankyou for sharing, very interesting indeed. In both New Zealand and Australia we have both the LS1, LS2, LS3, LS7, L98, & the very last of the LSA engines in both manuels and automatics in the Holden Commodore SS and the HSV's. (RIP).
@@nighthawk0077 The LT1 also has cylinder deactivation and direct injection, both of which can cause problems but otherwise they are great engines as well.
The Infiniti was more impressive, less HP, almost as heavy and won 2 races and one in the roll and started behind him in that as well. If he wasnt sleeping, he'd probably have every race.
The mighty nissan, the skyline, infinity what ever you want to call it. They are a great bang for ya buck. I got an 07 skyline 350 gt apart from high flow airfilters and a tune the thing is bone stock.. It goes like crazy never fails to amaze me when I plant my foot. Cheers 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🇳🇿🏴😁
This video really makes me miss my SS. The sleeper aspect of it is next to none. Probably my favorite aspect of owning it was being able to fly under the radar until I step on the go pedal. The LS3 really takes to modification well.
Sorry but even if its slower, id rather hear a V8 over a V6. Great videos as always tho. Also those last 2 kinda canceled each other out. The dig race, the infinity driver did thumbs up, then looked away and missed the start, and the SS driver hit late on the roll race.
Them vqs in the Infiniti sound crazy tho. Very beefy unique sound. American V8s sound the same. Those v6s sounds of the vqs are for real car people. Just my opinion
2nd driver of the Q50 didn't even brake boost off the line and I don't think the first driver was building max boost, which is 2500 rpm. Still interesting to watch though.
@@rockefelleragent1357 wrong I had a Toyota Mark X jdm import 300g premium that used to keep right on the bumper of a vf2 SS Holden commodore and that mark x had 250 HP lol
I have a genesis g70 3.3Twin turbo awd stock. My cousin has the q50rs awd. It keeps up and I only get him by about 2 cars on a dig to the quarter. Love the infinity though. I had an m37x and it was the best car I ever owned. Not as fast as my genesis but still was quick as hell and never had a better riding car! Always wanted the m56x awd with the 5.6 v8 but not many out there especially in great shape. Engines are bullet proof!
I see my guy in the SS is from CT. Big ups. My Q50 sliver sport will be tuned soon and won’t be able to be beatin. No Shuh. Lol. But when I’m manual mode the transmission shifts faster on the Q.
@@jimwallace4164 I meant to say the SS is a badge engineered version of the Holden Commodore. The SS was built in Australia by Holden based on the Commodore with minor changes for the US market
@@lexman8678 I would say something was wrong with "those Holdens", unless they didn't know they were racing, as they should be around half a second faster to 60 than a 350, now a Isf 500 should have a slight edge.
Geez who would have guessed that when that old Chevys traction control was off and not cutting the engine's horsepower, it easily smoked the brand new hot nissan. The best part is it's about three times more reliable than that Nissan's ever going to be too.
Sam now that’s a race!!! The red sport does impress you as it’s nothing special 3.0t worked. Tuned they are quite the sleepers. But on top, the Infinity struggles from 80-150 compared to the SS. Good stuff! Did you ever do the scat pack vs Red sport? LL 🦁 🇦🇺
The SS is an amazing car ,love the sound and interior it's exterior looks like a Malibu or something which makes it a good sleeper though , the used prices are about as much as when they were new
You are totally 100% correct! The average person thinks it's a full size Malibu! The exterior was too bland for me. Pontiac did a way better job with the exterior and interior, with the G8 and at least they advertised the car!
@@reyperez3424 na he's totally correct. At first glance, people see Malibu! When you hear the engine and see it take off then you say hey, that's not a Malibu? Chevy designers made the SS too bland for my taste. The car needed to look more aggressive, like the Pontiac G8! The same people that designed the Malibu, designed the SS. The SS looks like a bigger version of the Malibu.
I had a 2015 with the manual. On multiple occasions I had people asked me if it was a Malibu ss. I got sick of the comments and sold it for more than what I paid new.
Love my 2017 SS w/ 6 spd Manual transmission. It really has surprised more than a few BMW's and MB's.... The Mid range torque is sweet....and looking to drop in a BTR Stage II cam and long tube headers, to *really* make the LS3 sing !
I have the VE commodore variant in the G8 gxp with the same LS3 and 6M , what a fun and capable chassis, my mother in law has a ‘16 SS with magride, they are a nice upgrade interior wise from a G8 but I personally like the looks of the G8 better.
The court at the startpoint was jammed that day. 2 Challengers, Civic SI, K5, GV70, Audi SQ5 ( iirc), Merc c43 coupe, tuned Q60 3.0t, Pete's SS, my Q50, Ram TRX and Roush F150. Might be missing some actually lol
That is true especially in a v8 muscle car I remember my 1999 ford mustang gt 35th anniversary with engine mods and straight pipe cats delete and some other mods it beat and full bolt ons tune header B20v vtec Acura Integra and I gave him the go but I won by like 5 cars but with control of muscle cars are fast
If this hasn't been stated: The SS has a DRAG RACE "launch mode" You toggle the center know from; Tour, Sport, Performance...and past that, you can access the DRAG RACE mode. It's essentially a Line Loc and you can floor the gas pedal, and leave the line @ 4,000 rpm As the owner of a 2017 SS 6spd Manual Trans car...it leaves HARD at 4,000
The stock Infiniti turbos seem to die off on the top end, and they need a lot of cooling upgrades to keep the numbers up. Great cars nonetheless. They really wake up with a tune.
Haters be like but the Infiniti interior is so ugly and outdated. Meanwhile they praise other car manufacturers who just stick tablets on the dash and call it a day 🤣
Those people don’t have minds of their own. They just parrot the car journalists. The seats are amazing. Carbon fiber and stitched leather all around. It’s very Japanese. The auto journalist have a bias for European type interiors… as if Audi and BMW don’t look the same every year with slight variations
Ya I get it. I used to own a 2014 Q50 3.7 and they havent changed that much inside or out so I understand why people complain about that point. Yes Audi's are similar that way but they have made more changes especially on the infotainment aspect.
@@vroomgc ha, imo “ infotainment “ is for your wife, gf or whoever the passenger is. I ride solo most of the time and put on my playlist of music. I don’t need anymore distractions.
If you are getting into this world of rare cars, find you a CTS V-Sport and do some races. That is what I have and there is some tuning potential there with the 3.6 TT. We just had the first one in the 10's a couple weeks ago, and a 93 octane tune can get you in the high 11's with no real mods needed. I have always considered the SS and the V-Sport to be rare unappreciated cousins. Both fantastic cars that GM failed to sell (surprise surpise)
These Infiniti RS were steals before the chip shortage etc. You could go get a 2016 and it looked exactly like the 2022, minus the steering wheel and lights.
Yes, I looked at my dash when the flag man dropped his arms. That lack of attention cost me big. I wanted to be in a lower gear during the roll to stay in the powerband, had I accelerated to catch up - the transmission would have upshifted and game over. Hope this context helps mate!
4 years no problem. Had rear brakes done (premature wear due to the radar cruise and automatic braking) and two popped tires (runflats are a problem) otherwise oil and regular maintenance. Been a good car for me
Thank you for posting this Sam, both Peter and I had an absolute riot that day. Great to see our cars match up so closely (other than the race where I fell asleep?!) For two buddies that don't see each other nearly enough, I cannot stress how much this meant to both of us! We're thrilled to be a part of your channel and I hope your subscribers get the sense of joy we had racing that day. Oh and man the opening footage....our cars look so so good. Races are secondary to the sheer beauty of these two cars.
Thank you Jim :)
2 fine cars, which can both haul ass. Well done.
Lots of people like to be “different”.
Pretty common here for owners to swap their Holden badges for Chevrolet badges, funny to see the opposite is true in the Americas.
Wow really? Interesting I never knew that. People here are hooked on Aussie performance and nowadays guys are even trying their hands at using the mighty Barra in Mustangs and the like
You absolutely right it is Holden , rebadged to Chevy
What can I say I appreciate a good Holden.
Says Holden on the door jambs, so putting the correct badge back on makes sense to me!
WTF is a Holden????
It’s hard to tell which is really faster because of the reaction time of the drivers
Exactly
That part.
Facts
So true. Smdh
They didn’t really horse them cars....
It's a damn shame Chevy no longer makes that phenomenal car.
Chevy? It was made by Holden.
It's a damn shame Holden doesn't exist anymore.
And ppl weren't buying it to keep it in production. Then again, chevy sucks at advertising their cars
@@blackice7408 Aussies were buying these in droves, especially the V8 models which accounted for most of the sales.
Holden died because the cost of manufacturing the Commodore was too high, and the rest of their products were rebaged GM vehicles which were quite frankly, shit.
Expensive to make and no market for it. Also people weren’t buying it. The only car in this class still alive is the dodge charger unfortunately because i love rwd sedans
Got disagree I still have an 04 gto and it is an awesome car. Great quality of parts exterior and interior. Most people think it’s a newer car and have no idea what it is lol. But everyone has their own opinions and that’s ok
As a 2016 SS owner those Q50 red sports are no joke!
My car is a manual with cai, 2" long tubes and 3" catted mid-pipes. Tuned it puts down right at 400 to the wheel.
Lined up with one of those and we ran from about 10ish to around 70ish and they were right with me the entire way.
It didn't surprise me that the Q50 did so well in this vid. Especially against the auto SS.
And even though the SS is getting to be slower than a lot of these new TT V6 cars, I really don't care because it sounds AMAZING and there is no V6 made that can compete.
The sound of the LS 3 is worth giving up a few tenths. The top end is where this thing really surprises, well surprises those who don't understand V8's and torque curves and such.
The Q50 is AWD it should win every time from a dig that’s nothing new and the roll races was terrible 🤦🏽♂️
I love my manual SS best car ever.
@@bmshaven can confirm my 6 speed manual LS6 loves the top end.
Bone stock tuned only Q puts down roughly 420whp so maybe it was a jb4 or tune only Q that was right with you. It’s a fun car, mine makes a hair over 500 wheel but the sound of the LS is music!
The SS has a secret competition mode that you guys missed. You have to tap on the traction control button twice to access it
Yeah I was going to say the same thing also I've got an SS ute VF manual. Yeah rearranging my tools is a thing yeah I'm a petrol head I also have a 2017 clubby and that hammers
Thank you sir, please, like my comment so i'll remember it
i used to own an ss, sad that the modes do nothing for power only the tighten up the suspension and steering. so the modes did nothing i this video to help it
Love seeing Chevy SS out in the wild it’s such a rare car and sleeper as well.
Same I love both cars
Wouldn’t say sleeper for the Ones that know what engine it has
@@krosskid7657 Most people aren't "Car Guys" like us so yeah it's a sleeper
i have been seeing a lot of Chevy SS and monaros in my area Dallas Texas
It’s not rare down hear in New Orleans everybody got one somehow😭
The SS is a better drivers car. The Infiniti a better daily driver. AWD spoils you.
As a Q50 RS owner, it has been very reliable, runs 12s consistently at 110mph in normal conditions and 28mpg at 80mph with a 20 gallon gas tank is very efficient and convenient.
Loved my RedSport 400. Pop a simple piggy back JB4 on it and it REALLY wakes up around town and down low. Will spank the quarter mile in low to mid 12's at 114-115mph. Transmission is a dog around town under normal driving but that's expected. At WOT however, it performs very well and shifts quickly. Pop on the sport exhaust for $500 and it really sounds great. Combined with the JB4 it will scream up front as it pulls in more air and out back with a very subtle G-like tone. Just be sure to go into the hidden menu and turn off the fake sound generator so there's no drone.
The lack of depreciation on an SS coupled in with ease of maintenance and versatile platform make these car still superior to just about anything on the market even so 5 years later. The new TT platforms by BMW and Nissan are great don’t get me wrong, it’s just very hard to take anything away from something so proven as an LS in a Holden Chassis.
ISF nuff said.
That is true
It’s a vf commodore and they have gone up in price over in Australia
Why so people insist its made by Chevrolet. The SS Commodore body and most components are designed and manufactured in Oz by Holden ( a GM company) using GM engines etc. Converted to LHD and exported to the USA and rebranded an SS. Also exported to the UK rebadged as a Vauxhall VXR in supercharged RHD form.
So all Holden brings to the table is looks?“Using gm engines ect”
@@hunterstacy4459 holden has designed multiple of their own 6 and 8 cylinder motors as well as their own designs, chassis and interior. Holden is a massive part of Australian culture.
I was able to rent a Infiniti Q50 through a hertz in Seattle Washington for a road trip to Montana...It turned out to be one of the greatest road trips of my life and I grew a lot of respect for the car and it's combination of effortless speed and great handling. I have a Holdon Monaro at home, A relative of the Chevy SS here and I kept on comparing the two in my head as I drove. I made a personal best driving time from Alberton Montana to Seattle Washington on a early May morning in 5 hours and 7 mins. That includes a 15-20 minute traffic stop with the Washington state patrol. Both cars are great drivers !
The intro song with all the spec layouts makes it seems like you’re about to face the best final boss battle of a game.
thank you Sam for bringing that chevy SS, it's an amazing car with an amazing sound.
It's a holden commodore in Australia & New Zealand. In the UK I think it called a vauxhal. Cheers 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🇳🇿🏴😁
Gf commodore*
Vf
Imagine that Infiniti motor will be in the new Z minus like 800lbs
🤣 and still outdated vs the competition
@@kyoakland 9 speed*
auto 8 speed ROFL.
SLOW GARBAGE
NINE SPEED......
@@elonmust7470 9 speed dct or a 6 speed manual
I am impressed that an LS based OHV pushrod engine that is supposed to be irrelevant in the day and age of DOHC, quad cammed twin turboed cars is still far more competitive and competent as well as reliable as the newer supposedly superior engines.
All from the mind of Ed Cole. Chevy. Small. Block. Baby.
Love the VF Commie. Glad it sold here as an SS yet short lived (the unfortunate part)
Very Aussie yet distinctly GM. Best of both worlds! Powerful LS offering.
As soon as I seen the SS in the thumbnail. I was like ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh . Good shit Sam the man.
The SS is a fantastic car. I brought 3 of them new.
The SS has the LS3 and the ELSD, really helps it get off the line.
Have 2 SS and I’m almost positive that it doesn’t have ELSD
LSD yes but no ELSD , I don’t see any wires going into diff
@@reyperez3424 interesting, I thought it did. I know mine does and all corvettes do.
An Ediff is more advantageous for turning, not launch.
Has a mechanical LSD, but the 2015-2017 SSs also has a rear brembo brake based torque vectoring system where it lightly applies the inside rear brake to assist in aggressive turns in performance and track mode. Fun fact, the rear 14.2 inch rotors are actually a slightly larger diameter then the 14 inch front rotors.
AWD played a very big part just imagine the SS with AWD also a good quick shifting transmission as well but a good race I like both vehicles 👍👍
Sam great race. Something you would never normally see. Two really quick cars though. How about an all 80’s drag race? Fiero Vs CRX, Grand National vs Mustang Shelby, IROC vs Lotus Esprit, Eagle Talon vs RX7, Supra MkIII vs Porsche 928, M3 (E30) vs GT-R R32, Corvette (C4) vs Omni GLH
Good thinking Chris :)
Some good old 80’s and 90’s! That’s what I’m talking about! Just reading the cars makes me smile at those adolescent years!!!
These are some amazing suggestions
I'd watch
You can't do a 80's drag race without the TRANS-AM!!!!
Don’t underestimate the q50 rs. As a proud owner of one I concur that these cars are sleepers in their own right. Really hope mines can hold together long term like a Honda or a Toyota though as reliability is low on Nissans in general.
I've had 5 Nissan V6's and never had any reliability issues.
Later renault nissans yes
It's a Holden Commodore SS Mate.
100% built, made in Australia.
Holden🇦🇺2013/17 VF Commodore🔥SS-V🏁Redline - Sedan, Sportwagon & Ute!!!
You got that wrong mate. Its not a rebadged ss. It was born in Australia by Holden exported and rebadged as Chevy ss.
I'll take the Holden all day everyday.
Such a great match up, I’ve always loved the G8/SS/Commodore platform as well as the G35/37-Q50/60 platform. I was looking for a G8 GT or SS when the car market tanked, so I bought a 12 G37 sedan snd love it, especially for $12k. I have to say I’m not surprised but still impressed by the almost 15 year old drivetrain in the SS, LS3 and 6L80 still get it done. Both beautiful cars I’d love to own, but tilted towards SS for its rarity but also massive modding potential.
I got a Chevy caprice which is a cop car made on the g8 platform and is a commodore series 1, I got mine for $10,000 with on 66k miles and it’s a total sleeper once you fix all crap the cops broke. Can’t wait to Holden the car out but it’s basically a cheaper ss with a ls2 6.0 instead of a ls3 but it’s got a ton of performance mods for the cops so you don’t have to worry when ripping it
@@aidan8860 that’s sweet, I looked for Caprice cop cars too back when I was looking but couldn’t find the right one but that’s something I still look at sometimes, if I found one for a deal and turn it into a SS or G8 GXP or Commodore a piece at a time, I love the looks of a SS with Holden badges and trim, but they’re all $35K +
I have a 2009 Pontiac G8 GT and an Infiniti G35 ….both cars are so fun to drive
I'm looking to get a g37 sedan this year hopefully
@@Daddyops I hope it works out for you, I think you’ll be happy, had mine about a year now and all I’ve done is change the oil and drive the crap out of her, 40 mile one way commute to work and I average 26-28 mpg, depends how many random street (interstate) races I get into and 140-150 mph blasts I do at 2:30 in the morning when I get off work.
Would love to see Honda Accord sport VS Buick Regal Turbo match-up
(Great video)$
Yes
Yes!!
Regal turbo won't stand a chance.
Even the 2018 regal tje v6 one with awd vs rdx new
@@Blue-moon12 shit it'll eat that accord up
So there's quite some things to mention that go unnoticed about the Q50... it was easily noticed by a Q50 enthussiast, but the average owner who just pumps gas and gets oil changes would not know.
The base Q50 and Silver S Q50 is the 300hp model.
The Red S 3.0t is the 400hp model.
But there is more to this other than just power output.
The redsport has more cooling mods in stock form than the regular 3.0. BUT it is inadequate for the racing performed in this video.
Why?
Well all of the Q50's are water cooled intercoolers.
The front heat exchanger is literally good for about 1 quarter mile hit. Then, it will require about 3 to 5 miles of 55mph driving to bring Charge Air Temps back down to acceptable levels where the car will not pull timing.
This is where having an upgraded heat exchanger helps. But still they are inadequate for back to back pulls.
With a upgraded heat exchanger the temps take just a little bit longer to heat soak.
Also, please keep in mind the Chevy SS is modified. Memory serves me right, the owner had it modified prior to coming back from where he was stationed while in the armed forces (much respect to that).
If the Q50 was even slight modified (heat exchanger, lower downpipe, tune and a flexfuel kit on e30) (less than $2,800)
It would easily trap mid to high 11's from 118mph up to 120mph.
Was nice to see this video and I hope my comment helps yield some more knowledge.
The Infiniti also has twin turbos and a more modern transmission. It did good but its pushing the limit for its capacity compared to the ls3 which even with the mods you mentioned, still has a lot more to give even without boost.
That's a Holden Commodore!!! That Infiniti is something else!
YESSIR, A USDM V37 SKYLINE
Still kicking myself for walking out of a dealer offering me a new SS for way under MSRP. A lot of people got incredible deals on those once they started dumping them.
Yep, can sell a manual used for almost MSRP now, it's crazy
@@geerstyresoil3136 I can't ever remember another car like that. You see some hold the value or even a rare edition that goes up in value some but never something they were dumping for way under MSRP that has done what the SS has done. Easy to see why when you look at all the boxes it checks but still hard to contemplate how it has played out.
@@TheSpink02 part of the problem was there was virtually no marketing for the SS. People still to this day do not know what this car is. Also Holden was closing down so they were near the end and only produced a minimum amount to satisfy the agreement with GM NA. The enthusiasts are realizing now what a gem this car is and the last of an era.
Would love to see a Genesis g80 5.0 vs Infinity Q50rs👍🏽
From a documented performance perspective, the Infinity would easily win the 0-60 and quarter. The G70 3.3T currently is the only Genesis that can compete with the Q50S.
@@ryankuypers1819 For sure, 3.3t G70 went up against my Q earlier this year with Sam, another close series of races.
Their is a genesis 5.0 vs g70 video on TH-cam. The 5.0 gets gapped
I gotta base q50 only straight piped and eat genesis for breakfast. My homies got some and we raced before and I smoke them by a car length even from a dig.
Did they ever sell real Holden commodores in Canada??
And they say traction control doesn't improve speed with it on or off. That's BS! Nice runs!😎👍🏿
Your really growing you you're channel keep it up!
Thank you ;)
Chevy ss / pontiac g8gt all day that should be the next match up same chassis different take.
Technically the G8 is VE (Zeta) Commodore and the SS is a VF (Zeta 2) Commodore. They are similar, but the Zeta 2 chassis is superior.
@@caseybrannon4975 really now you think that's prolly why I said what I said jesus christ
@@caseybrannon4975 thank you. I was of impression that they were the exact same platform. Got to go do my homework on the 2 different platforms
@@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049 He probably corrected the fact you said they were on the the same chassis ...
@@DaMotoristX probably
Plz tell me the Q50 at least has a heat exchanger, you said in previous vids that you give them some warmup runs, well the Q gets heat soak so fast and are dog poop after a couple of runs.
I believe the Red Sports come with bigger heat exchanger than the base and silver sport models.
@@craigstokes5161 they do not, they come with 2 water pumps and turbo sensors but the heat exchanger is the same. Heat Exchanger is the first mod you should buy alongside new tires, tires are dog poop too.
@@AddictusSaevire I stand corrected. Thanks man! I just recently got a Q50 Silver Sport myself, and have both of those items as top priority changes.
@@craigstokes5161 Nice!!!! Yeah, I have a q60 Red Sport. Those two are definitely the best first mods. Next you need to go full bolt on then a tune my man! I was going to go full e-85 with a hpfp, lpfp and a flex fuel kit, but not a lot of e-85 in my area, figured it wasn't worth.
Would love to see an atsv vs 392 charger or redsport infinity
Ats v would destroy. I had one
Thankyou for sharing, very interesting indeed. In both New Zealand and Australia we have both the LS1, LS2, LS3, LS7, L98, & the very last of the LSA engines in both manuels and automatics in the Holden Commodore SS and the HSV's. (RIP).
😅that’s a left hand drive Holden Commodore SS, sold in America as the Chevrolet SS. Trust me.
6:10 - Love this bit. Thanks for putting it in there editors. Gorgeous. The SS is pretty sweet too. Just sayin.
Fun comparison. That SS has the venerable LS3 which I would take any day over these new turbocharged engines.
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I get that from a longer life perspective and maybe sound but from a tune ability and gas mileage the V6tt has the edge.
I would agree if it was the LT1 from the Corvette. But not this detuned version..
@@nighthawk0077 The LT1 also has cylinder deactivation and direct injection, both of which can cause problems but otherwise they are great engines as well.
The SS is stock aside from a CAI. A proper tune and LT headers alone would do wonders.
Finally I've been waiting for this video for more than two months already lol 😂
Chevy SS FTW!!!☝️🤙🤙🌬️
Not really out of 4 races SS only won 2 races and Q50 in sport plus mode the driver messed up badly
Nah q50 red sport 400 all day 🔥🔥🔥 #VQGang
The Infiniti was more impressive, less HP, almost as heavy and won 2 races and one in the roll and started behind him in that as well. If he wasnt sleeping, he'd probably have every race.
@@jesseyanvari8873 yep that snooze cost me.
The mighty nissan, the skyline, infinity what ever you want to call it. They are a great bang for ya buck. I got an 07 skyline 350 gt apart from high flow airfilters and a tune the thing is bone stock.. It goes like crazy never fails to amaze me when I plant my foot. Cheers 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🇳🇿🏴😁
This video really makes me miss my SS. The sleeper aspect of it is next to none. Probably my favorite aspect of owning it was being able to fly under the radar until I step on the go pedal. The LS3 really takes to modification well.
Can u pit the chevy ss with the 392 charger
I would like to see this as well. Kinda similar cars,even the 392 is heavier.
Lexus Gs F vs Infiniti q50 red sport
I got the poor man's version of the SS. A Caprice. Lol.
I had a cammed SS and its amazing even with it not being modified in stock form is a blast to drive too.
We just need some Q50 with the famous VQ37... I swapped a 3.7 in my 240sx it's impressive
great races, what year was the Q50?
2017
The ss would of won the roll 2 but the driver held off the starts because he was almost a whole car ahead
dude why you dont get the rwd q50 redsport is much faster than awd?
IM SAYING
Sorry but even if its slower, id rather hear a V8 over a V6. Great videos as always tho.
Also those last 2 kinda canceled each other out. The dig race, the infinity driver did thumbs up, then looked away and missed the start, and the SS driver hit late on the roll race.
Them vqs in the Infiniti sound crazy tho. Very beefy unique sound. American V8s sound the same. Those v6s sounds of the vqs are for real car people. Just my opinion
@@HannonBeatz gay
2nd driver of the Q50 didn't even brake boost off the line and I don't think the first driver was building max boost, which is 2500 rpm. Still interesting to watch though.
Ss vs stinger/g70 please
You will need G70 RWD to stay about even with the Chevy SS in the roll race. G70 AWD is gonna lose.
@@rockefelleragent1357 wrong I had a Toyota Mark X jdm import 300g premium that used to keep right on the bumper of a vf2 SS Holden commodore and that mark x had 250 HP lol
Both cars are my favorites wish I had them in my driveway!!!
I have a genesis g70 3.3Twin turbo awd stock. My cousin has the q50rs awd. It keeps up and I only get him by about 2 cars on a dig to the quarter. Love the infinity though. I had an m37x and it was the best car I ever owned. Not as fast as my genesis but still was quick as hell and never had a better riding car! Always wanted the m56x awd with the 5.6 v8 but not many out there especially in great shape. Engines are bullet proof!
Great race!!! (minus the guy sleeping on the line for the one)
Yes - cost me that race. Makes for good TH-cam commenter talking points though!
@@jimwallace4164 😂😂
I see my guy in the SS is from CT. Big ups. My Q50 sliver sport will be tuned soon and won’t be able to be beatin. No Shuh. Lol. But when I’m manual mode the transmission shifts faster on the Q.
Did the us get the vf hsv gts or clubsport or only the ss model ??
Great race... that's a holden, right??
Holden Commodore i believe
@@temur72 Chevy SS with a Holden conversion.
@@jimwallace4164
I meant to say the SS is a badge engineered version of the Holden Commodore. The SS was built in Australia by Holden based on the Commodore with minor changes for the US market
Those Holden's used to get smoked all the time by my old is350 2006 Lexus was funny seeing them lose something is wrong with that redsport lol
@@lexman8678 I would say something was wrong with "those Holdens", unless they didn't know they were racing, as they should be around half a second faster to 60 than a 350, now a Isf 500 should have a slight edge.
I have definetly seen that black beauty in central Illinois!? Cannot wait to own one.
Can you do a infinity m56 vs scat pack charger?
Geez who would have guessed that when that old Chevys traction control was off and not cutting the engine's horsepower, it easily smoked the brand new hot nissan. The best part is it's about three times more reliable than that Nissan's ever going to be too.
The junk lost to the Q in every run. Plus the q will outlast it by a long shot.
Love the SS since I found out about going to work hard to get one
Excellent, a chase is a race awesome usual
Can you do a drag with a first gen jeep grand cherokee srt8?
The Q50 VR30 heat soaks pretty easily with the stock HX. Wonder if they let it cool before each pull.
Nice! What year are those cars?
I would have liked to see RWD vs RWD though that would mean better p/w ratio for the Q50. Great race!
Very true but the RWD is not available in the Canadian market from Infiniti unfortunately. I see the rwd do some pretty amazing stuff on YT
Just gota wait for a 23 z
Sam now that’s a race!!! The red sport does impress you as it’s nothing special 3.0t worked. Tuned they are quite the sleepers. But on top, the Infinity struggles from 80-150 compared to the SS. Good stuff! Did you ever do the scat pack vs Red sport? LL 🦁 🇦🇺
Yes! The 392 has more HP and gobs more torque. So the results are predictable. Check out the other video with my RS on Sam's channel here.
Cannot wait to see what the new Z does with this motor, but a bit lighter, and obviously a downpipe, tune n so on....
@@jimwallace4164 but heavier
The SS is an amazing car ,love the sound and interior it's exterior looks like a Malibu or something which makes it a good sleeper though , the used prices are about as much as when they were new
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Malibu , you need new glasses
Totally different in every way with a few similarities
You are totally 100% correct! The average person thinks it's a full size Malibu! The exterior was too bland for me. Pontiac did a way better job with the exterior and interior, with the G8 and at least they advertised the car!
@@reyperez3424 na he's totally correct. At first glance, people see Malibu! When you hear the engine and see it take off then you say hey, that's not a Malibu? Chevy designers made the SS too bland for my taste. The car needed to look more aggressive, like the Pontiac G8! The same people that designed the Malibu, designed the SS. The SS looks like a bigger version of the Malibu.
I had a 2015 with the manual. On multiple occasions I had people asked me if it was a Malibu ss. I got sick of the comments and sold it for more than what I paid new.
Love my 2017 SS w/ 6 spd Manual transmission.
It really has surprised more than a few BMW's and MB's....
The Mid range torque is sweet....and looking to drop in a BTR Stage II cam and long tube headers, to *really* make the LS3 sing !
Can you please do a race between the current Honda Accord 2.0 turbo version vs the older V6 3.5 (2017 model)?
Thank you for these great videos,👍👍👍
I have the VE commodore variant in the G8 gxp with the same LS3 and 6M , what a fun and capable chassis, my mother in law has a ‘16 SS with magride, they are a nice upgrade interior wise from a G8 but I personally like the looks of the G8 better.
Nice vid look at all the cars in the back most of been a fun day! 🎉🎉🎉
The court at the startpoint was jammed that day. 2 Challengers, Civic SI, K5, GV70, Audi SQ5 ( iirc), Merc c43 coupe, tuned Q60 3.0t, Pete's SS, my Q50, Ram TRX and Roush F150. Might be missing some actually lol
@@jimwallace4164 holy shit
Thanks for the great matchup!
Great review! Can you do a review on the Cadillac CTS V-Sport. 2014-19 3.6t. I would love to see what’s your impression.
That is true especially in a v8 muscle car I remember my 1999 ford mustang gt 35th anniversary with engine mods and straight pipe cats delete and some other mods it beat and full bolt ons tune header B20v vtec Acura Integra and I gave him the go but I won by like 5 cars but with control of muscle cars are fast
If this hasn't been stated:
The SS has a DRAG RACE "launch mode"
You toggle the center know from;
Tour, Sport, Performance...and past that, you can access the DRAG RACE mode.
It's essentially a Line Loc and you can floor the gas pedal, and leave the line @ 4,000 rpm
As the owner of a 2017 SS 6spd Manual Trans car...it leaves HARD at 4,000
The stock Infiniti turbos seem to die off on the top end, and they need a lot of cooling upgrades to keep the numbers up. Great cars nonetheless. They really wake up with a tune.
Nah, its the transmission.
what turbo or mods do you recommended to keep things from messing up hahaha
@@VictorHernandez-ji9mu what turbo or mods do you recommended to keep things from messing up hahaha
What state are you in same i would like you to race my full bolt on lexus gsf on here
What about SRT 392/Scatpack Charger vs this Chevy SS? How would that go based on experience?
The scatpack typically takes it every time
@@enzocaine5369 By how many car lengths?
I’d love to see the Ghibli SQ4 vs Q50S Red Sport AWD they are both 400hp sedans
You should do the Chevy Ss vs 2012-14 Chrysler 300 srt8
Awesome videos. I wish you guys make one video of with the hyundai veloster 1.6t vs civic si 1.5t
I’m sure the 10 speed or 8 speed can be put on the ss right?
The SS is a monster. 👍🏻🇺🇸
Could u do a video on 4th gen Mitsubishi eclipse gt vs other current N/A v6 cars?.....
Where do you live? I would love to come race my tuned Audi A6 vs whatever you think is comparable
We haven’t seen it up against a charger.. Can y’all do the SS sedan vs the charger rt or scat pack?!
Haters be like but the Infiniti interior is so ugly and outdated. Meanwhile they praise other car manufacturers who just stick tablets on the dash and call it a day 🤣
Those people don’t have minds of their own. They just parrot the car journalists. The seats are amazing. Carbon fiber and stitched leather all around. It’s very Japanese. The auto journalist have a bias for European type interiors… as if Audi and BMW don’t look the same every year with slight variations
I hate those tablet style infotainment systems. So distracting. My 2018 G80 Sport is said to have old style interior but I love it.
For the price , genuine leather and no leatherette would be nice but besides that, they’re sharp cars, and very quick.
Ya I get it. I used to own a 2014 Q50 3.7 and they havent changed that much inside or out so I understand why people complain about that point. Yes Audi's are similar that way but they have made more changes especially on the infotainment aspect.
@@vroomgc ha, imo “ infotainment “ is for your wife, gf or whoever the passenger is. I ride solo most of the time and put on my playlist of music. I don’t need anymore distractions.
Love THe Chevy great cars
I would love to see the wrx sti vs mazda 3 turbo.
If you are getting into this world of rare cars, find you a CTS V-Sport and do some races. That is what I have and there is some tuning potential there with the 3.6 TT. We just had the first one in the 10's a couple weeks ago, and a 93 octane tune can get you in the high 11's with no real mods needed. I have always considered the SS and the V-Sport to be rare unappreciated cousins. Both fantastic cars that GM failed to sell (surprise surpise)
cts vsport is a hidden gem and stock, is extraordinarily potent.
These Infiniti RS were steals before the chip shortage etc. You could go get a 2016 and it looked exactly like the 2022, minus the steering wheel and lights.
Poor driving reaction times today I must say. Late reaction on the last drag and rolling race the SS was ahead of the RS before the line to go
Yes, I looked at my dash when the flag man dropped his arms. That lack of attention cost me big. I wanted to be in a lower gear during the roll to stay in the powerband, had I accelerated to catch up - the transmission would have upshifted and game over. Hope this context helps mate!
@@jimwallace4164 Thanks for responding and explaining. Appreciated greatly. Next time.
Chevy SS😙 a great car!!!
is the Q50 reliable or hella maintenace ? i really wanna get one tbh
4 years no problem. Had rear brakes done (premature wear due to the radar cruise and automatic braking) and two popped tires (runflats are a problem) otherwise oil and regular maintenance. Been a good car for me
@@jimwallace4164 awesome i preciate it !
I really want an SS but they hold value so well that it's still going to be about 45k or more. WTF 😒