@@Ghost-gm3jr What about pigs, cows, chickens that you eat? Have you ever seen how a pig is killed or a chicken etc.? There life just ends in a matter of seconds.... I am not defending killing dogs or anything else for that matter but don't be biased like you have never eaten meat in your life....
Everybody did from the excons the cops had no valid points aside from get involved with the local and federal dynamics that affect citizens directly related to human rights.
why bring the cop in the suit on? he literally offered nothing to the conversation. there could have been such better discussion but this dude was as productive as a houseplant
Remember these videos are edited, we don’t know, he may have said a lot more than we are shown :) I get what you mean though, if he said something important I would have hoped it would have been included.
They have one person every episode that either A) doesn't add to the conversation or B) is just dead weight for their side. The best example of this is Derrick from the Men's Rights and Feminist video.
They are missing three other groups: the judges, the attorney's, and the citizens. Putting it all on police and felons, is a strange way to focus on how to address the issues. We all play a role.
this video was such a waste, couldve been far more better including every role from the justice system. 10 ppl should be good enugh. and maybe 35 min long
Z H when you say good I assume you mean when they have disagreements and begin to expound on those disagreements? I’m pretty sure they won’t show it because they don’t want to prove anyone wrong and cause more division. Jub is all about uniting and what not. They don’t want anyone to be made out like a fool, especially any liberal view points since they are super far left wing bias
BRO SKI well that’s what I mean, there’s a liberal bias like the rest of the popular media, how is that being about uniting? They don’t want “points” to be debunked even slightly
@@xixie5854 ah yea, laws against murder give big gov money Don’t even get me started on speeding tickets. How dare I not be able to go dangerously fast relative to the cars around me and risk everyone’s life is who is involved!
There is like a 200 question test and polygraph exam that covers pretty much every possible crime as part of the hiring process here in my city for government personnel. This includes police, EMS, Fire, and others.
It was good to see that one cop was actually there to hear from these ex criminals. He even asked for information about one of the guys non-profit organizations because he actually cares about them
@@matthewlong5590 As a black man, I agree with you. I've been around a lot of black people and certain people growing up in a black hood gives them some weird mentalities.
They dont have the ability to talk about all this. As much as this sounds unfair the reason it is not consistent is because you can't dictate how other counties operate.
@@jonathanmarks2069 You can still have a decently level of consistency with taking into consideration what happened with that specific crime. Across the U.S. crimes are punished so different and for people of different wealth/race as well. There is a consistency that needs to be held but it is hard to be able to keep a low level of consistency with a higher level of making sure people's cases are looked at for their specific circumstances
Lawyers do what they do for the money. Even Rob Nigh didn't want to defend Timothy McVeigh at first, but reluctantly did it to the best of his ability anyway because he was a public defender. At some point at my life I considered going through the hoops to become a lawyer until I discovered how batshit crazy that profession is. I'm not cut out for that living Hell.
I keep seeing this comment but as someone with a felony and a few misdemeanors... It's on the cops too. Lol. They decide what happens in the first place.
@@popeyefreeze2541 simplified: you expect them to pick up the slack and face the consequences for someone else’s irresponsibility then hold them accountable if they fail to meet your warped expectations.
Ping did an awesome job representing his issues and he could really make changes with his perspective. Rehabilitation for prisoners being released should be common sense for a better society for everyone.
Brittney Yvette v he needs to be the change he wants to see. Why wait on other people to maybe change things for you. Change ut your self. I hope he does but its on him. Like the cop said, call your representive or whoever can make the changes. Don't just bitch about it and do nothing.
sounds like a whole lotta bullshit to me. The black people have every right to fear for their lives when the police pull them over. Studies evaluating big data consistently show that black and brown people are targeted more frequently by the cops. Cops go into poorer communities, where POC are overrepresented and go after the poor people of color because they know that their lives do not hold the same political sway as, say a white person. There's a lot out there about racialized stereotypes and the effect it can have on groups of people in a minoriy/majority. Especially with the anti-black foundation of this country (slavery, jim crowe, war on drugs, etc.) we see many cultural undertones of racism and injustice. These undertones have detrimental effects on the way we treat and value different groups of people. Law enforcement disproportionately targets black people due to the school of thought they subscribe to, labelling an entire race as criminal. And the interaction between dominant cultures and sub cultures eventually forces black people to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If there is no justice and you are born a "criminal" simply for the color of your skin, then why not commit crime. Also it is not true that black people commit more crime. Looking at usage/criminalization ratios for marijuana across racial lines show that black and white people use the illegal substances at the same rates, however black people are punished doubly. Don't tell me that black people are playing "roles" when there is a genuine reason for them to live with a sense of fear. There is a TARGET on their backs and they have every right to ADVOCATE FOR JUSTICE.
My father works for my state's Department of Correction. There's a _huge_ fucking issue in our justice system with recitivism. Rehabilitation is something are country needs to strive for. A big part of the problem is that prisons have been privatized. They're being run like businesses, and no buisness would strive to put itself out of use.
0:41 No, no friend please do not say that. Bravery is not the opposite of nervousness! The fact that you are willing to openly admit that this is intense, is one of the bravest things I 've heard today. And I respect that wholheartedly.
"So you're telling me there's levels of legality?" Well... yeah, I don't think a person that killed someone should get the same punishment as someone who was drinking in public.
Bruh did u listen to what he said after? His point was that levels of legality is blurred with objectively worse crimes getting comparatively way less time than other crimes he was pretty valid
Drinking is legal. There should never be punishment. Drunks should be driven home. It should be recorded and the second time 12 step should be assigned. If they if they cause an accident it should go by vehicle code.
@@jsmeswagner6104 You missed my point. Drinking in public is "against the law" but not to a point that people go to jail for it. I believe you just get cited for it unless it's a repeat offense. Killing someone, however is absolutely highly punishable! These two offenses are on different levels of legality.
Haha. :P To be honest, there are too many laws- laws that contradict each other. Just living life and doing your taxes or getting insurance can be illegal, so even if they were goody two shoes, they probably broke one law or another just by living.
I so agree with what the felons said. It's SO UNFAIR. Sometimes the system is what drives people commit to the crime. If they're poor, uneduactaed, they know justice isn't on their side, so they seek other ways like the guy who tried to defend his family. That made me really sad
My suggestion was for “sentencing” which a judge decides on. Yes jury’s can decide on the death penalty but a judge decides how long an offender stays in prison. That’s why there’s a separate sentencing hearing after an offender is found guilty or not guilty by the jury. The jury does not decide how many years an offender goes to prison for.
Jade Blue I don’t buy that. Saying something along the line of “yeah there are some things we can do better and your experiences with the system are valid,” would not cost them their jobs. I am mainly concerned by the guy with the buzz cut’s attitude. He was completely dismissive of what the ex-felons were telling him and had a justification for every action the police or justice system took, regardless of how shady it was.
I'm sorry but I've gotten the opportunity to look through some cases and I can say thats also not a fair system. Theres a difference between a man who wants to slash because he was provoked vs a man who wants to slash because he likes to. There are many many factors the justice system needs to consider before they punish someone. Unfortunately people have biases and some cases are just put forward in better ways than others.
Euclase W you are definitely correct here. There are so many other factors that play into the “same crime, different time,” theory. People just grasp at straws.
It makes me so upset that the one cop was like well looking at you I don’t see any of those mental struggles... they have known each other for like ten minutes. That’s exactly what you don’t want to say to someone who is struggling mentally. Also, how is he going to compare military to prison?? Most places won’t hire if you have gone to prison.
Everyone is being granted a defendand. The better ones go for Higher paying jobs. But everyone has the opportunity to get advice when it comes to law. So yeah, its not really a problem, but If it was, it would be a very very small one.
CarnageZone Please elaborate on this idea. So, are you saying that someone who can afford a better attorney deserve more protection? If someone can pay more money to lower a sentence, due to a better attorney, wouldn’t that mean they are indirectly paying to escape a full punishment?
I loved this video! Just makes me sad seeing the sides and knowing that my dad is a veteran and came out with Schizophrenia and PTSD, then the hospital he went to didn't help him and he came out even worse then before and then he went to jail and just made it even worse just sad how they didn't see he needed help just bothers me, but he is better today and is one of the most loyal, kind, and loving person I know.
He should never have gone theough all that I'm sorry he was harmed when he should have been helped, it's incredible that he has come out of it so well I'm very happy for your family
They also grab the right people. They disagree but respect is shown towards each other. I think technology and social media makes it easier to dehumanize the opposing side. Also, when the News/Media start doing it, it create a toxic pool of misinformation and anger.
I love what you guys are doing here. These topics really need to be talked about more in society and it's reassuring to see people with opposing views to come together for civil discussion.
You have to make these videos longer!!! There is so much more here than just a few questions and clips. These are important discussions that need more depth. Keep up the good work but push for more!
The military vs the prison rhetoric of being the same thing coming out of the “system” (military or prison) was greatly articulated by Ping. Being called a hero or a monster, is a major difference. There’s an indoctrination happening to a person. You are conditioned to believe you are something, you are not. And over some years, you end up becoming that. Which cause a person to view themselves in more/lesser of.
@@user-cp9zy1sl6v I'm pretty happy that he didn't answer back. The black dude was way out of line with his statement throughout the video, had an extremely biased perspective which he conditioned himself to not change. Fucked up a quality debate.
Everything Ping had to say was so well thought through. He seems very smart and open minded, a person I'd love to have a conversation with to learn from them
Lol so he hates cops or does he hate the FACT that unarmed kids who magically happen to be of his same racial group are getting shot and killed by the same people who are supposed to be keeping them safe? Your deluded and or very much racist.
I think that it is to avoid conversations getting out of hand, since the topics and questions are usually very sensitive everyone does their best to be respectful at first but it can get out of hand pretty quickly, putting a timer ensures that even if te conversation begins to enflame you just put the tension down again. It is true though that many times conversations could have been longer :/
@@mikebather6688 You can not have controversial topics cut down to 5 minutes, expect anything productive from it and say the point is to find middle ground. Call me whatever names make you feel better, but these are important topics, and they are cut down to Twitter conversations. This is why people are so divided, lengthy conversations are not being had anymore and are shunned because of how sensitive it can get. It needs to if change is to happen.
They still have to rent and pay for the space. They might have payed for 2 hours and to get to the 12 topics, each will be short. Not all of them will be used, but just in case to have footage
Last year, I was told to write an essay on a social issue of my choice. I asked my teacher if I could write about the problems in the prison system, specifically the lack of rehabilitation available. She told me to my face that it wasn't a real problem, even after explaining to her that I'm the child of 2 ex cons. She, a person with no history or experience with the criminal justice system, told me that she knew the system better than both me and my parents.
I actually did a similar research project for senior year. I must say that the prison system is royally fucked. Quotas, non-existant rehabilitation, it's bad man.
Teachers like that are highly concerning. No teacher should ever say something like that. I agree it's a problem. If a student comes up and says to you "I believe this is a problem" then they obviously see it as a problem smh sorry for the tangent. Teachers like that get me very upset.
Wow I’m sorry that happened to you. Don’t be afraid to take those things to your principal/dean (not sure how old you are). I hope that there’s someone at the school you can turn to in those situations.
Rehabilitation should be improved in prisons, just look at the reoffending rates of USA vs say Norway or somewhere like that, these European countries have much better rehabilitation programs for prisoners, minimising the reoffending rate and therefore costing taxpayers less money in the long run, its a win win for society
Imaru Lewis this whole goddamn US economy is built on drug dealing.. America brought the drugs here from Colombia... why? Because believe it or not drug dealers contribute more than u ever will!! So yeah if u grew up with nothing and that was his way out I would hold a grudge too
GD3RD 77 they weren’t joking to see if they should admit they just can’t remember or don’t know. Did you know that connecting to a strangers wifi network even if there’s no password is illegal? Going 5-10mph above the speed limit is illegal. Who knows how many crimes you commit every day
So... you tease us with the first 10 seconds but don’t show that he said that. Once again, the reason I haven’t subscribed is because I would like the UNCUT VERSION OF THE VIDEOS. No filter no edits.
That’s just how we grow up as black people. I have a distrust in cops, however I do believe they are put in place to protect. I also believe black people need to take extra precaution to stay out of trouble due to cops being afraid of black people and what other black people have done. Is it fair? No. But that’s life.
"You sound like a law enforcement pamphlet" - This is exactly what I thought. That cop sounded nice but he's way too naive and thinks the justice system is fairer than it is.
Sometimes people break the law without knowing, sometimes circumstances force them to do so, and sometimes it's just because those laws are just stupid. Also, most of them said they accept that they broke the law, but they still dislike that the system is so imbalanced and unfair. People like you that support the law blindly are part of the problem.
I believe drugs should be decriminalised, so unlike you I don't view a drug dealer as an evil person. And yes, you are part of the problem because you think that anyone who is a felon is at fault, even though the system is unfairly sending a lot of people to jail.
Nate O. So lemme ask you this, if a drug dealer sells to children it's not evil? Sells potentially life ending, for sure life altering, drugs to others? That's cool with you? Just to see where you stand.
honestly ping is so very well spoken and composed. along with the cop, but I agree the cop sounds like a law enforcement pamphlet. if would benefit if they could walk in each others shoes and sees what it really is like
"The larger issue is that the system is broken. I don't have a problem with taking ownership of my actions , it's society not taking ownership over it's own creations." so. fucking. true.
In a way that's true, but each of us as individuals have much more power over our own lives than we do over "society." Generally, what separates successful from unsuccessful people is taking responsibility for one's own actions.
@Lucy Towey Wtf are you talking about? The younger cop clearly was very respectful to all the inmates but did defend his point of view, and that's one of the reasons he is there!
No it’s just the cops don’t understand the fucked up situation they been through like someone said 13 years of ur life u will never get back for not using a gun but having it as self defense ,than someone who does time for 1 year for shooting someone for fun and having a gun for fun to stunt
@@peter-paulkutschlojenga7336 he is talking about their pose, facial expressions, tones and subtle things like that that say "i disagree" even when their mouths speak they agree.
60 days in, they send in a cop in one season. Great show, the guy from the military looking after a fellow Marine he met in there who had PTSD and was starting fights with everyone was good too.
@@auttysifuentez2841 ok, he came across so well balanced and smart in that video I feel like, despite his fears of being rejected by society, he could land a decent job. He's clearly a very intelligent and adaptable individual.
The cop seemed like a good dude and I think they needed to give him a tad more credit for his non judgement and willingness to just listen and trying to understand even, when people kept shooting his thoughts down.
I think he was getting the exact right amount of credit. He was certainly considerate, respectful and thoughtful, but they treated him the same. His good attitude doesn't mean they have to water down their disagreements, and the whole thing was very polite, so I have to wonder what form this 'credit' you feel he's owed should have taken.
I would like to hear from good cops - middle to top brass guys in places like Philippines, Brazil, Venezuela, and Indonesia. They've seen things most American cops hadn't. The dirt that pass by their offices.
@@missesguh ok so if he used the gun would of be a diffirent story? It's the same for people who carry around a knife and complain they get charged. You wouldn't carry it of you don't have any intention of using it.
The cop in suit seems like he was there to collect evidence. lol
akx 😀😀😀😀😀
for real bruh hahaha
I feel he was put on the back foot instantly by the guy in dreads.
Bruh the cop in that suit was FBI😂😢
😂😂😂
That cop was so well spoken but when he hit him with that pamphlet I died 😂
Yes, his little speech couldn't have sounded any cornier.
@@geerenmo the funny thing is he does believe it and mean it. This too is a reality and it's there. He will do the things others hope will happen.
Leah Sutton 😂😂frrrr
Time ?
It's true
6:12 "It shouldn't be a game with people's lives". I agree 100% with the ex convict.
Same. On 2 years probation now. It is a game to them.
He has a name
He forgot it
Lowkey I actually wanted to see that scene with “you look like someone I have arrested before” part of the session.
They cut 90% of what the black guy had to say.
@@Unrulykvngdom so sad
@@Unrulykvngdom why??
@@moneybxndz161 could possibly be because he was getting too political. The idea that cops are out to gun down black people just simply isn't true
@@FHSBlackSwarm “just simply isn’t true” how?
That asian guy that wanted to protect his family had good points.
I feel bad for him fam
Hitman 101 racist
@@Ghost-gm3jr What about pigs, cows, chickens that you eat? Have you ever seen how a pig is killed or a chicken etc.? There life just ends in a matter of seconds.... I am not defending killing dogs or anything else for that matter but don't be biased like you have never eaten meat in your life....
@Hitman 101 Not all Asians eat dogs dumbass
Everybody did from the excons the cops had no valid points aside from get involved with the local and federal dynamics that affect citizens directly related to human rights.
“You sound like a law enforcement pamphlet”😂
Right haha I died
To be fair he did though
I agree with yall but he was like that from the beginning of his career. U cant blame him though.
Never thought pamphlet would be so insulting and savage
I was reading this comment right when the video said it 😂
Guy with dreds: "How can you stand idly by and watch unarmed people getting..."
Director: "CUT!!! Sorry bro"
Caught that too
I did too 😬
Lmao exactly, he was the only one crying about that
Time stamp?
@@06dabiggestdon 1:44
why bring the cop in the suit on? he literally offered nothing to the conversation. there could have been such better discussion but this dude was as productive as a houseplant
Remember these videos are edited, we don’t know, he may have said a lot more than we are shown :) I get what you mean though, if he said something important I would have hoped it would have been included.
They have one person every episode that either A) doesn't add to the conversation or B) is just dead weight for their side. The best example of this is Derrick from the Men's Rights and Feminist video.
I did like how he mentioned the problems with the budget cuts and training. I do think that was important.
Just being a spy
I dont think they knew his answers before casting him dude
They are missing three other groups: the judges, the attorney's, and the citizens. Putting it all on police and felons, is a strange way to focus on how to address the issues. We all play a role.
I would only suggest that all those groups are citizens that separatism is in part the problem
just my opinion
Middle ground without middle men
this video was such a waste, couldve been far more better including every role from the justice system. 10 ppl should be good enugh. and maybe 35 min long
Facts. Deflecting the issue even
Imagine complaining about only focusing on police and then NOT mention the most important actor: Politicians!
I want to watch this WITHOUT IT CUTTING WHEN THE CONVERSATIONS GETTING GOOD
Seriously, it's one of my pet peeves with this series
Lol I find it satisfying 🤣🤔
Belacroix what how??? omg it pisses me off soooo much
Z H when you say good I assume you mean when they have disagreements and begin to expound on those disagreements? I’m pretty sure they won’t show it because they don’t want to prove anyone wrong and cause more division. Jub is all about uniting and what not. They don’t want anyone to be made out like a fool, especially any liberal view points since they are super far left wing bias
BRO SKI well that’s what I mean, there’s a liberal bias like the rest of the popular media, how is that being about uniting? They don’t want “points” to be debunked even slightly
Justice isn't blind, she just has dollar bills for eyes.
lmfao best comment ive seen yet
Tell that to officers risking their ass to save people but for a garbage wage.
@@seanwren2152 Soldiers get paid 10x less, ask anyone whose served.
@@seanwren2152 ok. Its still true. Those cops are enforcing laws that were created to make money.
@@xixie5854 ah yea, laws against murder give big gov money
Don’t even get me started on speeding tickets. How dare I not be able to go dangerously fast relative to the cars around me and risk everyone’s life is who is involved!
“I sold drugs, I sold a sh¡t ton of drugs” idk why they part was so perfect to me just the way he said it aswell
@Ye no bro
Nothing to be proud of...
That dude actin like he’s on drugs
i was looking for this comment lmfao
Lame
cop: you seem smart to me
felon: i agree with you
That's not what he meant, he said I agree with you to the things like meeting people and trying to change things, which the cop mentioned
@@robinsinghchauhan1834 it’s a joke
ex-felon, you mean
“I have done something illegal in my life” *2 cops hesitate walking forward* cop: idk I probably did....
It's scary thing to do, cops get charged a lot 4 it.
There is like a 200 question test and polygraph exam that covers pretty much every possible crime as part of the hiring process here in my city for government personnel. This includes police, EMS, Fire, and others.
Speeding, accidentally littering, everyone's done something illegal
Jeffrey Chou yeah
The one dude explained why. His first reaction was like I havent commit a felony rather than anything illegal
Why is no one talking about how they could not get a third cop 😂
Yeah noone gonna talk about useless shits
Lol
They pick the number of people…
@@coolguy3848 this conversation is not useless 😀
I saw that too. But I love the guys they got
It was good to see that one cop was actually there to hear from these ex criminals. He even asked for information about one of the guys non-profit organizations because he actually cares about them
Most of the questions are adressed at judges, not the cops in the street.
Haifischneik brillenträger sind die besseren peoples
Thats what I was thinking. The cops are not Judges or prosecutors.
Right? Cops aren't lawmakers, they're law enforcers.
@@twenterie6438 🤣dachte bin der einzige deutsche
@@gamerskills8370 ich auch
I like how the guy who served the least time in jail is the most radical
Ok and so if he is black not all black ppl are like that,ppl like you are gonna pay in the after life juss watch
Matthew Long really? That’s fucked up
Matthew Long Ayo boys we got a wigga that’s salty because his mom and dad got divorced because his mom took bbc. Gtfo
Abe G triggered?😂😂😂
@@matthewlong5590 As a black man, I agree with you. I've been around a lot of black people and certain people growing up in a black hood gives them some weird mentalities.
“I don’t know I probably did” he knows he has 😭
Thats probably something small. Not like he choked a black guy by stepping on his neck.
@@ashutoshguglani7611 or shooting someone because he thought they might’ve proposed as a “threat”
@@erinyesofficial650 the chances of a police officer getting any type of action is incredibly low. Do some research before you blurt stuff fam
The Asian gentleman with long hair is extremely enlightening. Very well spoken and courageous 💕
Dude hit the nail on the head. “I think the justice system needs to be more consistent”.
They dont have the ability to talk about all this. As much as this sounds unfair the reason it is not consistent is because you can't dictate how other counties operate.
McCashDollars Cashmoney there’s something called talking about your opinion
@@jonathanmarks2069 You can still have a decently level of consistency with taking into consideration what happened with that specific crime. Across the U.S. crimes are punished so different and for people of different wealth/race as well. There is a consistency that needs to be held but it is hard to be able to keep a low level of consistency with a higher level of making sure people's cases are looked at for their specific circumstances
Prisons shouldn't be making a profit because it
incentivises prison owners to get more people in prison. The aim should be rehabilitation
I agree; but also realize the charges themselves can’t be that specific
Would’ve been interesting with a black cop there too.
I agree but I don't want to fuck up the amount of likes 😏 lmaooo
@@tallmidget1395 lol i wasn't expecting so many likes
Thanks for all the likes guys
@@michael567jober if you dont ruin your comment by edit:thanks for all like
@@6OV420 huh?
I have the utmost respect for reformed convicts. It takes a lot of strength to erase violence from the heart
Lmfao not all of them are even violent but go off
Sounds like the felons should be talking to judges and lawyers. Not cops
Lawyers do what they do for the money. Even Rob Nigh didn't want to defend Timothy McVeigh at first, but reluctantly did it to the best of his ability anyway because he was a public defender.
At some point at my life I considered going through the hoops to become a lawyer until I discovered how batshit crazy that profession is. I'm not cut out for that living Hell.
I keep seeing this comment but as someone with a felony and a few misdemeanors... It's on the cops too. Lol. They decide what happens in the first place.
"Just doing my job" sorry the nuremberg defense doest work anymore
@@popeyefreeze2541 simplified: you expect them to pick up the slack and face the consequences for someone else’s irresponsibility then hold them accountable if they fail to meet your warped expectations.
The cop in suit just _looks_ straight up cold blooded
I think the fact he was in the military plays a big role
Really? He just looks bored to me.
@@shavontecollins2649 yea definetly
That's a great trait for a cop. Being cold blooded means you can do rational choices easier and get less affected by emotions.
Mr. Loowiz I’m military and I have the exact same mindset it helps a lot trust me
Ping did an awesome job representing his issues and he could really make changes with his perspective. Rehabilitation for prisoners being released should be common sense for a better society for everyone.
Brittney Yvette v he needs to be the change he wants to see. Why wait on other people to maybe change things for you. Change ut your self. I hope he does but its on him. Like the cop said, call your representive or whoever can make the changes. Don't just bitch about it and do nothing.
sounds like a whole lotta bullshit to me. The black people have every right to fear for their lives when the police pull them over. Studies evaluating big data consistently show that black and brown people are targeted more frequently by the cops. Cops go into poorer communities, where POC are overrepresented and go after the poor people of color because they know that their lives do not hold the same political sway as, say a white person. There's a lot out there about racialized stereotypes and the effect it can have on groups of people in a minoriy/majority. Especially with the anti-black foundation of this country (slavery, jim crowe, war on drugs, etc.) we see many cultural undertones of racism and injustice. These undertones have detrimental effects on the way we treat and value different groups of people. Law enforcement disproportionately targets black people due to the school of thought they subscribe to, labelling an entire race as criminal. And the interaction between dominant cultures and sub cultures eventually forces black people to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. If there is no justice and you are born a "criminal" simply for the color of your skin, then why not commit crime. Also it is not true that black people commit more crime. Looking at usage/criminalization ratios for marijuana across racial lines show that black and white people use the illegal substances at the same rates, however black people are punished doubly. Don't tell me that black people are playing "roles" when there is a genuine reason for them to live with a sense of fear. There is a TARGET on their backs and they have every right to ADVOCATE FOR JUSTICE.
Dylan --You know what's up!
Hate takes many forms. Just tryna stop it one instance at a time
My father works for my state's Department of Correction. There's a _huge_ fucking issue in our justice system with recitivism. Rehabilitation is something are country needs to strive for.
A big part of the problem is that prisons have been privatized. They're being run like businesses, and no buisness would strive to put itself out of use.
Well looks like this should have been between judges/attorneys vs ex-felons
0:41 No, no friend please do not say that. Bravery is not the opposite of nervousness! The fact that you are willing to openly admit that this is intense, is one of the bravest things I 've heard today. And I respect that wholheartedly.
"So you're telling me there's levels of legality?" Well... yeah, I don't think a person that killed someone should get the same punishment as someone who was drinking in public.
Drinking in public shouldn't be a crime at all; it isn't in several law-abiding countries. And it isn't in some counties either.
Bruh did u listen to what he said after? His point was that levels of legality is blurred with objectively worse crimes getting comparatively way less time than other crimes he was pretty valid
Ye and self-defense is assault while assault is self-defense? :)
Drinking is legal. There should never be punishment. Drunks should be driven home. It should be recorded and the second time 12 step should be assigned. If they if they cause an accident it should go by vehicle code.
@@jsmeswagner6104 You missed my point. Drinking in public is "against the law" but not to a point that people go to jail for it. I believe you just get cited for it unless it's a repeat offense. Killing someone, however is absolutely highly punishable! These two offenses are on different levels of legality.
-I have done something illegal in my life-
"have you?"
"I dunno"
"probably did"
Haha. :P To be honest, there are too many laws- laws that contradict each other. Just living life and doing your taxes or getting insurance can be illegal, so even if they were goody two shoes, they probably broke one law or another just by living.
임마kochanie I like ur profile pic ^^
😂😂
임마kochanie just leave u Asian idiot
William K wow, not the place for this.
I so agree with what the felons said. It's SO UNFAIR. Sometimes the system is what drives people commit to the crime. If they're poor, uneduactaed, they know justice isn't on their side, so they seek other ways like the guy who tried to defend his family. That made me really sad
Theres always a choice.
6:03 "a little hole in the system" those words really hit me. That asian dude with the ponytail had very good arguments
Can you do one on Judges and Felons? Judges are the ones who decide on sentencing.
Trz they could pick nearly anyone. Jury members don’t go out seeking to be on a jury
Trz Jury only determines guilty or not guilty
My suggestion was for “sentencing” which a judge decides on. Yes jury’s can decide on the death penalty but a judge decides how long an offender stays in prison. That’s why there’s a separate sentencing hearing after an offender is found guilty or not guilty by the jury. The jury does not decide how many years an offender goes to prison for.
SpicyFruit yes yes yes
SpicyFruit a judge is a powerful person and well off, they wouldn’t be on screen for free or anything like this.
A cop that refuses to criticize the system scares me.
They brainwashed
ThisIsYourLastWarning〉:3 they're just afraid of losing their jobs
Jade Blue I don’t buy that. Saying something along the line of “yeah there are some things we can do better and your experiences with the system are valid,” would not cost them their jobs. I am mainly concerned by the guy with the buzz cut’s attitude. He was completely dismissive of what the ex-felons were telling him and had a justification for every action the police or justice system took, regardless of how shady it was.
Estee Parede you all are brainwashed
ThisIsYourLastWarning〉:3 but if that was the case and they were going to lose their job, that's also a scary and big problem lol
I’d love to see ex felons with a judges, alot of the concerns seemed based on the judicial system more than law enforcement
Why tf didn’t they show what happened in the beginning
Watch time
Because it wasn’t filmed. He said this to me after I checked in and we were in the waiting area
@@timothymccray3169 more people need to see this comment
They were trying to show a black mean get aggressive. So people can say something bad about him. That cop looks bored, omg 🤬
@@Jerseysfinest12 you fr?
"The same crime should get the same time"
sometimes people get entirely different sentences for the same statute and the same criminal history, something is wrong there.
@@user-sw1wq8lh2w women get off 60% more than men do for the same cases, people worry about black and white too much when there's so many other issues
I'm sorry but I've gotten the opportunity to look through some cases and I can say thats also not a fair system. Theres a difference between a man who wants to slash because he was provoked vs a man who wants to slash because he likes to. There are many many factors the justice system needs to consider before they punish someone. Unfortunately people have biases and some cases are just put forward in better ways than others.
Euclase W you are definitely correct here. There are so many other factors that play into the “same crime, different time,” theory. People just grasp at straws.
Kinda contradicts the other statement of there being some consideration for the crime being done
I'm sure we all would love to see the unedited version
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Lol fr tho
I wanna see what the cop would have said after the one dude asked why they were going around shooting black people. I think that was a strategic edit
I like Jubilee, it seems like it is one of the few channels where you can actually hear the viewpoint of everyone without being shouted down.
It makes me so upset that the one cop was like well looking at you I don’t see any of those mental struggles... they have known each other for like ten minutes. That’s exactly what you don’t want to say to someone who is struggling mentally. Also, how is he going to compare military to prison?? Most places won’t hire if you have gone to prison.
Thats not what he said. He was referring to how the guy saw himself; he saw otherwise, as in he saw potential.
The prison system needs to stop acting like a business and more like rehabilitation center
Private prisons shouldnt exist. Period.
The US prison system is not rehabilitative, it's punitive. Hopefully soon they'll change.
Bruhhhhhhhh preach
they are where I live....
If you see a problem with something in this world and don’t do anything to fix it you’re just as much apart of the problem
"Public attorneys aren't as good. That could be a little hole in the system."
A little hole? A little 9 year hole?
Everyone is being granted a defendand. The better ones go for Higher paying jobs. But everyone has the opportunity to get advice when it comes to law. So yeah, its not really a problem, but If it was, it would be a very very small one.
@@carnagezone4268 you're not very smart are you?
CarnageZone Please elaborate on this idea.
So, are you saying that someone who can afford a better attorney deserve more protection?
If someone can pay more money to lower a sentence, due to a better attorney, wouldn’t that mean they are indirectly paying to escape a full punishment?
@@TheGeekyChef1190 you obviously dont know how law works.
@James The sentence does not directly correlate with the attorneys skill
I just love gamers couldn’t like as it was at 69
I loved this video! Just makes me sad seeing the sides and knowing that my dad is a veteran and came out with Schizophrenia and PTSD, then the hospital he went to didn't help him and he came out even worse then before and then he went to jail and just made it even worse just sad how they didn't see he needed help just bothers me, but he is better today and is one of the most loyal, kind, and loving person I know.
He should never have gone theough all that I'm sorry he was harmed when he should have been helped, it's incredible that he has come out of it so well I'm very happy for your family
I can’t believe he tried to compare being in the military to prison 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ bro nooooooo
“how come police aren’t policing police”
that is a fire statement.
Internal Affairs?
@Kekela the question was why aren't cops policing cops. I answered it. Question answered. Done. There was no "quality" of the policing asked.
It’s not tho
Showtime123 ok. butthurt for what
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Things like this series are exactly what the world needs right now.
Gabriel Varney yes
*the USA
Gabriel Varney they should make it longer
They also grab the right people. They disagree but respect is shown towards each other.
I think technology and social media makes it easier to dehumanize the opposing side. Also, when the News/Media start doing it, it create a toxic pool of misinformation and anger.
Agree
I love what you guys are doing here.
These topics really need to be talked about more in society and it's reassuring to see people with opposing views to come together for civil discussion.
5:25 damn bruh that other person snitched 🤣how else he get 1 year lmao tuff
The black dude looks like he was about to take another five years for swinging on an officer😂😂
Annnnnd cops are the bad guys?
Eamon Worthen Literally nobody said that, shut the *fuck* up
@@999heavenly4 I think it's only fair you share your extra chromosome with the rest of us.
@@thatmf5228 literally everyone says that tf
@@xr337I think Ryan has some extra y'all could even out if you know how to count
*8 seconds in*
*me: "yikess"😬💀*
You have to make these videos longer!!! There is so much more here than just a few questions and clips. These are important discussions that need more depth. Keep up the good work but push for more!
The military vs the prison rhetoric of being the same thing coming out of the “system” (military or prison) was greatly articulated by Ping.
Being called a hero or a monster, is a major difference. There’s an indoctrination happening to a person. You are conditioned to believe you are something, you are not. And over some years, you end up becoming that. Which cause a person to view themselves in more/lesser of.
“Why are you going around shooting unarmed black people?”
Doesn’t let the cop respond
kiss - lil peep
@@MegaSlenderMinecraft what
They cut the video
Cop would have responded “why are black people going around shooting unarmed black people” that would have been a conversation between the two
@@user-cp9zy1sl6v I'm pretty happy that he didn't answer back. The black dude was way out of line with his statement throughout the video, had an extremely biased perspective which he conditioned himself to not change. Fucked up a quality debate.
Everything Ping had to say was so well thought through. He seems very smart and open minded, a person I'd love to have a conversation with to learn from them
deadlyNightshade789 Pong was pretty good too.
Lmao. You guys are dicks.
PING!!! Ugh perfect Mulan joke 😂
deadlyNightshade789 what about pong
Criminals always try and make excuses. If you don't do stupid shit then stupid shit won't happen to you.
The guy with the locs snapped like a twig!!!!I hope he heals and succeeds in life because hes been through some hurt that's really different❗
I’m on the path thanks
They found common ground. That was so interesting to watch, and I’m glad they were able to talk in a civilised manner. Great video
This was basically two guys having a great discussion, one hating cops and three keeping quiet.
That’s 6 people
Lol so he hates cops or does he hate the FACT that unarmed kids who magically happen to be of his same racial group are getting shot and killed by the same people who are supposed to be keeping them safe?
Your deluded and or very much racist.
Karabo raleting Seems like he hates cops tbh
Your maths doesn't add up my guy
@@DowzerWTP72 he is not doing math he is doing meth
That timer ruined so many potentially good conversations/explanations. Why even have a timer?
I think that it is to avoid conversations getting out of hand, since the topics and questions are usually very sensitive everyone does their best to be respectful at first but it can get out of hand pretty quickly, putting a timer ensures that even if te conversation begins to enflame you just put the tension down again. It is true though that many times conversations could have been longer :/
Which means nothing gets done. You barely scrape the tip of a good discussion and it's time to move on, so what is the point of these?
Shatto to find middle ground noob
@@mikebather6688 You can not have controversial topics cut down to 5 minutes, expect anything productive from it and say the point is to find middle ground. Call me whatever names make you feel better, but these are important topics, and they are cut down to Twitter conversations. This is why people are so divided, lengthy conversations are not being had anymore and are shunned because of how sensitive it can get. It needs to if change is to happen.
They still have to rent and pay for the space. They might have payed for 2 hours and to get to the 12 topics, each will be short. Not all of them will be used, but just in case to have footage
The Asian guy with the bun: Smartest one there.
It is touching to see them trying to understand each other's. As expected, we can sympathize only when we listen to each other's position.
glad the cop and asian guy became friends
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Asian guys name is ping
Asain police man just sat there trying to get comfortable in his chair the whole time didnt even say one word
"Friends" lmao
The asian guy has a story on Snapchat lmao
Last year, I was told to write an essay on a social issue of my choice. I asked my teacher if I could write about the problems in the prison system, specifically the lack of rehabilitation available. She told me to my face that it wasn't a real problem, even after explaining to her that I'm the child of 2 ex cons. She, a person with no history or experience with the criminal justice system, told me that she knew the system better than both me and my parents.
I actually did a similar research project for senior year. I must say that the prison system is royally fucked. Quotas, non-existant rehabilitation, it's bad man.
What you should have said in response: “the fact you don’t think it’s an issue shows why I want to choose that topic”
Teachers like that are highly concerning. No teacher should ever say something like that. I agree it's a problem. If a student comes up and says to you "I believe this is a problem" then they obviously see it as a problem smh sorry for the tangent. Teachers like that get me very upset.
Wow I’m sorry that happened to you. Don’t be afraid to take those things to your principal/dean (not sure how old you are). I hope that there’s someone at the school you can turn to in those situations.
Rehabilitation should be improved in prisons, just look at the reoffending rates of USA vs say Norway or somewhere like that, these European countries have much better rehabilitation programs for prisoners, minimising the reoffending rate and therefore costing taxpayers less money in the long run, its a win win for society
I've been binging these for hours omg
I literally love this channel and the videos you guys make. Such an intriguing concept, all of the videos
The black dude has so much grudge against cops lol
YRN xcvi yeah, it’s like he is mad for getting locked up for choosing to commit a felon
Imaru Lewis this whole goddamn US economy is built on drug dealing.. America brought the drugs here from Colombia... why? Because believe it or not drug dealers contribute more than u ever will!! So yeah if u grew up with nothing and that was his way out I would hold a grudge too
@@hardyprado4380 ill make sure to thank drug dealers next time i get a bottle of water at the store
Hardy Prado lmao
@D B he's wright you fucktard
“You’re telling me there’s levels of legality?” Yes, they’re called misdemeanors and felonies.
did you notice that even the cops sat when they asked "i've done something illegal"
@GD3RD 77 true... happens in argentina too.. I know a police Capt. And yes... ugh...
GD3RD 77 they weren’t joking to see if they should admit they just can’t remember or don’t know. Did you know that connecting to a strangers wifi network even if there’s no password is illegal? Going 5-10mph above the speed limit is illegal. Who knows how many crimes you commit every day
@@hydraz1443 I knew the wifi law. Its international. But it's like. No one cares about public wifi
Les Sneaky that’s not what he meant
“Levels of legality”
Yah dude. Some people go for life, cause they are serial killers, other for a couple years, cause they sell *drugs*🤣
it is very interesting to see them all in a place. and i wish there were more episodes about this.
So... you tease us with the first 10 seconds but don’t show that he said that. Once again, the reason I haven’t subscribed is because I would like the UNCUT VERSION OF THE VIDEOS. No filter no edits.
I was seriously wondering where that part even came in. I watched the whole video waiting to see that part how it played out and it never showed up.
agree
Yes!
^^^
Fax
"You strike me a a very smart individual."
"I agree with you."
This was honestly the best part.
Oh man :D
You left out the rest of the sentence. Smh.
This is the most tense discussion I've seen on here.
Agreed. All it takes is another cop organization to watch this and in criminalize them for crimes they committed in the past and sidnt serve
This was the most chill middle ground ive ever seen. They were so respectful and hopeful for each other
Black dude is going off the most but served the least amount of time lmao
Yeah! He talks the talk, but hasn't walked the walk.
@mac 187 Citation Needed.
That’s just how we grow up as black people. I have a distrust in cops, however I do believe they are put in place to protect. I also believe black people need to take extra precaution to stay out of trouble due to cops being afraid of black people and what other black people have done. Is it fair? No. But that’s life.
PresidentialWinner he served 3 years, that’s walking the walk lol
PresidentialWinner 3 years in prison isn’t walking the walk?
"You sound like a law enforcement pamphlet" - This is exactly what I thought. That cop sounded nice but he's way too naive and thinks the justice system is fairer than it is.
Cool. Maybe. So you're just going to throw your hands in the air, give up, and not try to fix it?
Sometimes people break the law without knowing, sometimes circumstances force them to do so, and sometimes it's just because those laws are just stupid. Also, most of them said they accept that they broke the law, but they still dislike that the system is so imbalanced and unfair. People like you that support the law blindly are part of the problem.
I believe drugs should be decriminalised, so unlike you I don't view a drug dealer as an evil person. And yes, you are part of the problem because you think that anyone who is a felon is at fault, even though the system is unfairly sending a lot of people to jail.
Charles Smolen lmao you're killing me man😂👐👍
Nate O. So lemme ask you this, if a drug dealer sells to children it's not evil? Sells potentially life ending, for sure life altering, drugs to others? That's cool with you? Just to see where you stand.
This is the type of stuff we need all over television. Awesome channel.
honestly ping is so very well spoken and composed. along with the cop, but I agree the cop sounds like a law enforcement pamphlet. if would benefit if they could walk in each others shoes and sees what it really is like
Ping seemed like a chill dude.
you know why? He owns his own fitness place at the prison he went to and he helps all the prisoners reflect and shit, hes cool.
Demon Slayer goat
lightning kachowski he was in a buzzfeed video it was really interesting it was about a fitness program for inmates
"The larger issue is that the system is broken. I don't have a problem with taking ownership of my actions , it's society not taking ownership over it's own creations."
so. fucking. true.
In a way that's true, but each of us as individuals have much more power over our own lives than we do over "society." Generally, what separates successful from unsuccessful people is taking responsibility for one's own actions.
No, people make themselves criminals. Nobody forces people to break the laws.
Its not people are expecting no repercussion, but rather questioning why they are being persecuted in the first place.
Have you done something illegal in life:
Cops looking at each other, should we or should we not
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Everyone talking about how they should’ve got judges and stuff but cops literally act like judge, jury, and executioner
the Asian-American cop looks like he would like to take them all to jail again HAHA
whenever he talked he was more respectful than the other cop?
@@user-np8yf8fj2w there were both respectful.
@Lucy Towey Wtf are you talking about? The younger cop clearly was very respectful to all the inmates but did defend his point of view, and that's one of the reasons he is there!
No it’s just the cops don’t understand the fucked up situation they been through like someone said 13 years of ur life u will never get back for not using a gun but having it as self defense ,than someone who does time for 1 year for shooting someone for fun and having a gun for fun to stunt
@@peter-paulkutschlojenga7336 he is talking about their pose, facial expressions, tones and subtle things like that that say "i disagree" even when their mouths speak they agree.
I love how jubilee screens the people they put on the show. All very intelligent and well spoken, great organization.
Love what y’all are doing here!! Just discovered your channel and I’m hooked. Thanks for the solid content!!🤙🏽💪🏽🔥
Wow ping countered everything respectfully, intelligently and to the point. Love it
Roy Reyes ping was on another show right?
PizzaPlayer Bops not sure haven't seen him on anything else
Yeap, he appeared in the video - 'Men Work Out In Prison For A Week' by Buzzfeed
Jerald S 😂😂😂
This series puts so much shit into perspective, I love it
Speedyy so much.
Speedyy y
Why would anyone want to look at a bunch of shit?
Skyler V lol
ARE YOU KIDDING ME THIS CHANNEL IS AMAZINF. WOW.
"Unity in the community"
Like beautiful music
!🔥!
this asian dude is so smart
What asian isn't?
Mutombo Says duuuude that’s stereotypical (but true)
@@fitchhateclub
NO ONE:
ASIAN DAD: *No tok tu me til yu get da degree*
@@mutombosays780 you should make MEMES :)))
They're 3 Asian dudes
Y’all should make cops go undercover and go into prison as an inmate and see how other cops treat them 😂
In that case, they should have BLM or whoever disrespects law enforcement to act as an undercover officer.
@Brayam Sierra They would also see how dangerous it is.
60 days in, they send in a cop in one season. Great show, the guy from the military looking after a fellow Marine he met in there who had PTSD and was starting fights with everyone was good too.
Cops are not in prison. Prison guards are.
Nila Tix very true, my mother was a correctional officer for many years, not a police officer
Okay, that last question and their answers were amazing.
The plaid shirt guy seems so peaceful and born again.
Man, the Asian guy (Ping) is just on point. Clear, logical, well reasoned and well thought out points which... Are basically irrefutable.
Keith WS watch him on do all ex felons think the same
@@auttysifuentez2841 , ok. I will look that up.
@@auttysifuentez2841 ok, he came across so well balanced and smart in that video I feel like, despite his fears of being rejected by society, he could land a decent job. He's clearly a very intelligent and adaptable individual.
Which one?
@@bratacion5742the asian guy without specs
The cop seemed like a good dude and I think they needed to give him a tad more credit for his non judgement and willingness to just listen and trying to understand even, when people kept shooting his thoughts down.
agreed
Don't bother, people just love bashing on cops because the media tells them to.
Because he learned to be patient and listen... it’s part of his job
I think he was getting the exact right amount of credit. He was certainly considerate, respectful and thoughtful, but they treated him the same. His good attitude doesn't mean they have to water down their disagreements, and the whole thing was very polite, so I have to wonder what form this 'credit' you feel he's owed should have taken.
There were two cops btw
I have never seen like this type of content! It was so interesting.
Just found this program, I’m on a binge now!!!
First time i have seen the "teams" uneven. Hard to find cops who will do this? Lol
same thought
Well you can see the cops on the video actually see, to be decent people unlike a lot of the police force that I know
Kevin Yang Majority of the police officers i know are good people. Just like most of the civilians i know, are good people.
I would like to hear from good cops - middle to top brass guys in places like Philippines, Brazil, Venezuela, and Indonesia. They've seen things most American cops hadn't. The dirt that pass by their offices.
Ayla Soares jesus your political compass is aids
no one is giving back 13 years of life to that asian guy for NOT using a gun.
Lucifero Sinistro your point?
Alaina Velasco the point is that’s fucked up
@@missesguh ok so if he used the gun would of be a diffirent story? It's the same for people who carry around a knife and complain they get charged. You wouldn't carry it of you don't have any intention of using it.
black shrek self defense especially depends on where u live
Bobby Singh R you don’t need a knife for defence, you need a knife for killing. Arguing that people carry knives for defends is so hypocritical
I mean this stuff is captivating. The world needs more of these types of conversations to make some real ground breaking moments.
This video is so interesting. It's kind of unique experience to listen to the stories of cops.
this is my favourite series ever.
tanya g I was your 1000th like, and it was orgasmic to watch the 999 go to 1K
same
tanya g If you like this series you should watch Steven Crowders Change my mind series.
very diverse lol