Amped Outdoors 60Ah Lithium Battery Test. How long a charge lasts on my kayak? I went too far...🥵
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In this video I put Amped Outdoors 60Ah lithium deep cycle battery to the test. I ran Minn Kota Endura C2 30lb trust trolling motor at top speed to see how long battery will last on a full charge on my kayak. I over estimated the charge longevity and ended up paddling all the way back for 8 miles....🥵 Lesson learned. Watch and see how long the battery lasts.
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According to videos here on youtube. Speed 5 uses just over 29 amps. Speed 4 drops all the way down to around 16.4 amps. So needless to say you can almost double your time by using speed 4.
speed 3...13.7A
speed 2...10.1A
speed 1...8.1 A
That is correct. I use ammeter now to keep an eye on the power draw. Has been fishing the whole season. Never run out of battery.
I enjoyed your video. That thing really moves on speed 5. Do you find speed 4 is about half as fast? Or better?
@@chind6930 lb thrust it’s a lot less speed on #4 than #5
First, thank you Fishy Angler for sharing. Data don't lie - they just don't tell you everything. LOL. Three years after I bought ($270) and set up my inexpensive inflatable "2-person" dinghy (for fishing), I finally broke it in (OK, you are allowed to laugh.) Endura C2 30 lbs. ($90, rated 30 amps) on a deep cycle marine 35Ah battery ($65, weight 23.15 lbs.) with a NOCO battery Box ($12), (all 2019 prices) in Lake Natoma (dammed river lake) which had current but no tide. It ran for about 2 hours, mostly at #3 speed, travelled for about 1.5 miles one way (Drag! Excuse: too lazy to pull up the wheels). Next idea: get another 35Ah battery (today's price $75) to double the amps (parallel).
Leaded batteries are way too heavy. But I see your desire to get more juice on the boat. The speed of the motor increases power draw significantly. When I’m fishing I mostly use 1-3 speed settings. Fishing all day and have not been stranded even once. Always have enough juice and some left when I’m done for the day.
One of the pitfalls in calculating how long a particular battery/motor combination will last is not de-rating for efficiency losses and power factor. A rule of thumb is to expect to get 80% of the ideal calculations. And if you have juice left over it's better than having to paddle when you're hot and tired.
By now I know exactly how long battery lasts. The draw level plays a big role too. I can fish all day on that battery. Thank you for watching.
Im using a 50amp battery. It will last all day fishing on lower speeds. Running wide open drains the battery fast. If your going long distance opt for a bigger battery. I recently bought a second 50amp battery for the longer trips.
That was just a test. I’ve been using this battery while fishing since then without any power shortage.
How far of a round trip can you make on the two batteries I assume you can get about 50amp hours from the two now if your battery is traditional acid one or agm I guess if you had lithium ion battery with 100amp hours you could pretty much drain that battery up to the 20% charge range?
Im running a 100amp lithium battery and can go on full throttle all day with no issues and still have 90% left got it from Amazon for $309 bucks
If you have a 30-lb thrust motor, and with a 60-AH battery, at top setting of #5, you have, generally, only 2 hours of cruising, as I understand it, because your motor at top speed is using up 30 Amps every hour. In my case, I have a 50-lb thrust motor with a 100AH battery, and at top speed # 5, I only have 2 hours of cruising, as my 50-lb-thrust motor uses up 50 amps every hour. At # 1 setting, my motor uses up only 10 amps per hour, giving 10 hours cruising time. Many factors affect variations in individual cases, such weight, wind, and waves.
Theoretically that is correct. That was my first test. Now, I know exactly how long it lasts when I use different speeds.
Hello Gentlemen
Im also learning ,so I have Minn Kota whit one battery 100 AH lithium,did you mean I need another battery for better results ??
Just an FYI it’s not the tide chart that’s wrong it’s there’s a difference between tide and current. Even thought the current was still moving in the “out” direction the water was coming in. There places I fish were the current doesn’t change for 2 1/2- 3 hours after tidal change.
You probably right. It’s a river after all where current is present at all times. It’s when tide overcomes the current, water flow is changing. Thanks for pointing that out.
I sometimes carry a spare battery in case I run out. Good video. Thanks.
Thank you. I pushed it too far that first time out. Now I know what it’s capable of. On lower speeds it lasts all day of fishing.
When testing its always best to check the voltage a lot and when its around 70% turn around cause youll need the rest of the power to get back. The bms will shut down before the battery is actually dead and if you pull a lot of amps as the battery is low the mbs goes into protection mode...if you would've been able to plug the battery into a chager (just for a second) and ran the motor at a low speed you would've been able to continue using your motor
I had a voltmeter on it. The voltage doesn’t drop below 12v and has about 1.5-2.0v to work with when fully charged. But, now I know how long it will last while I’m using it.
Lithium batteries never drop voltage. It’s gonna run strong until it goes down to about 5% and the microchip will shut it off to protect the battery from a complete drain off. I have the same battery on my Old Town Minn Kota and i have never run out of juice
When I fully charge battery it’s showing 14.4V. As I use it on a fishing trip, it goes down. But, usually when I’m out at the end of the day trip it still shows 13+ volts. Never run out of juice while fishing either.
about to get the same battery, which charger are you using, thanks
@@dannypena5649 I purchased my battery charger from Amped Outdoors also. It’s a 10AH charger for lithium batteries
Exactly….. lithium’s go till they quit suddenly
same thing happened to me ...it sucked paddling back. I was in a kayak that does not paddle well. Not that big a deal but I sure was tired
Yep, it was a good exercise..😁
100AH lifepo
Minn kota c2 30lb
40w solar trickle charger..
With this set up I have made the battery last multiple days. I never go above 3rd speed. And I use the paddle to go with the current.. and save the motor to go against current. Solar does its job and tosses some juice back on the battery when I stop for lunch or when I'm camping and stop for the day..
This was a torture test. This battery serves me well. Lasts all day. Lower speeds save the energy for sure. I see how solar power can be useful for long trips.
Circling a small lake is a better plan to test how far you can go. I don't think I'd make 10 miles paddling in the heat.
That would be a better idea…😆 But I wanted to explore the river. It was a good exercise…😅
your sacrifices never be in vain man , appreciate that
Ha ha. Thanks.
I wanna add one thing. I did the same test and my buddy did the same test and he covered more distance with the same numbers. But why.? When everything was the same, even water conditions. We both pick flat days with no wind to get a base number. The difference was in the hull shape. I have a Hobbie, and he's got an ocean kayak ultra. My Hobbie is like pushing a truck thru the water whole his hull design is narrower and tapers off nicely in the front to slice the water like butter. Granted I have more stability but I'm jealous of his kayaks speed lol
Well, you have to compromise something. I’ll take stability over speed with my complexion. 😂
I also changed to lithium batteries 100 ah only weighs 24 lbs and you don't have to worry about how much voltage is left for a long time .. How's your battery holding up these days still good ?
Still going strong. Lasts all day fishing in our ponds.
Good video. Seems like the battery is good considering running the TM on high. Not bad. I use a 50ah deep cycle VRLA battery. Weighs 18 kg. Can run my watersnake on high (20 amps) for about 3 hours on my Pelican Catch 110 Hydryve. I also have an aluminum frame sunshade which catches wind as opposed to kayaks without sunshade. Thanks for the video
Thank you for watching. This battery has been good for a year now. Lasts all day in ponds I fish.
@@FishyAngler I'm looking at lithium batteries. I'm retired living in the Philippines. The challenge here is there are alot of fake batteries. Will find one though and buy it. Lot less weight
@@dalegrible5556 9
I immediately saw the need for a second battery not hooked up just as back up so I have an extra 30Ah lithium strapped to my 65Ah main battery ready to transfer connections anytime
That was a torture test. In ponds I fish in Delaware it lasts all day with some charge to spare.
You have to use a pwm because a trolling motor always uses 100%no matter what speed pwm it doesn't do that
I measured current on my Minn Kota at different speeds and its wary.
you could have just done circles, never further than your comfortable paddling range from home. 6 hrs sitting in a kayak, do you have a bathroom on board? and... you have added some components to your battery box since your assembly video.
I liked to explore the river. Circles wouldn’t be fun… and yes I do have bathroom on board, at least for #1 🤣. I often fish for 6 hours. I did add volt meter and USB ports after the assembly video.
Great test and very helpful information! 👌
Thank you.
Looks like you expelled your reserve capacity of 144min @ 25 amps. Pulling that hard for that long is a risky play, one speed setting lower than full throttle you could make it to your 10v shutdown. Pulling full load however is causing the early shutdown to prevent overdraw recovery from damaging the battery. You can run slower and still cover the same distance over a longer period of time- your distance traveled does not directly affect your AH as you will be drawing less amps over a longer period of time versus more amps over a shorter period of time- distance traveled will remain nearly constant.
Well, that was the torture test for the battery. I wanted to push it. I fish with that battery all day with some juice left at the end with normal use.
Did you have just the trolling motor on the 60ah battery? Or did you have your fish finder on it as well? Thank you, I'm looking at adding the same trolling motor to a RS117 and trying to figure out how long/far I can go on a charge
Just trolling motor. Fish finder was connected to a separate smaller battery.
Here is the math i use, 30amp draw motor÷ 100ah battery=3.3 hours of run time lithium battery. If you use a 100ah lithium batt. divide the amp draw number with the amp hour of your battery.
Thanks for the advise. Now I have ammeter and know the draw of the motor. It’s all good now and battery lasts all day of fishing. 😀
Then how did he get 3 hours out of a 60ah battery?
Man great video that trolling motor lasted longer than I thought in the heat. Either way it's a hell of a lot better than paddling, we gotta do some snake head hunting via kayak when I get up there.
Now I know how long it lasts… 😁 Sure we can.
@@FishyAngler hey look, just don't have me paddling back from anywhere 9 miles 🤣😂
@@Delmarvafishing well, you probably be paddling to destination as well…😂
@@FishyAngler 🥵🥵🥵 hahaha
Good job 👍🏻 👍🏻 👍🏻 I like it 😍 😍 😍
so I bought a 50ah lifepo4 and I'm excited. I will be doing my test with a backup battery. lol
Wise choice….😁
Is the 50ah enough for a good days fishing
@@catchnrelease2815 depends how much your motor gets used. My 60ah lasts all day move from place to place while fishing and has some juice left at the end of the day. If you run motor all day because of the water current or high wind, it may be out before you are done.
I think you should of done the test on an overcast cooler day, LOL. That is exhausting to paddle that much on a hot and humid day. I also have a Minn Kota but run a 12V marine battery made by Duracell. My only issue is that is weighs so much and it’s heavy. Just curious how much that battery you have weighs and how much does it cost. I paid $140 can which is about $100 US for that deep cycle battery. It weighs 45 pounds, looking to get one closer to 25 pounds.
To paddle in that heat wasn’t pleasant, but that was true test for battery in the heat as well. The battery weighs only 14lb and cost 3.5 times of the one you have. I have a video me building the battery box if you missed it.
@@FishyAngler Ya, the price was what I worried about. I heard they are expensive.
Lifepo4 batteries have come way down. I just bought a 50ah eco worthy for my kayak for $135 but they go all the time for $170.
Thanks for the information 🙏🤝
I’m glad the information was helpful.
Excellent video. Looks like im getting 100amp hours
Her you go gokwh.com/gokwh-12v-100ah-lifepo4-battery-built-in-smart-bluetooth-lcd-display/?ref=aZXDLP0CIfJbrN
Is 60 amp enough or would you go 80, 100 amp battery of you had to purchase the battery again?
I’ve been fishing few last times and after half day fishing, I still had half capacity. 80 or 100 Ah definitely more capacity, but the price of those batteries is premium. Just for trolling I would probably go with 100Ah, but to move from one fishing spot to another I’m fine with this battery. It lasts the whole day.
Nice Test! It rewarded with a 3hour workout! I'm building a solar pontoon boat cruising machine. I will convert the roof to hold 8 200-watt solar panels, with 600 amp hours worth of batteries. The end state is to bring in at least 50 amps per hour from the panels, allowing me to cruise on the Chesapeake for 5 hours at 4-mph without using the gas engine. The boat will not be used for fishing, just a relaxation station to read a book, cook, take photos, do yoga, etc.
That’s nice. Sailing will be similar to that. Won’t be cheaper?
Yes,the draw from the motor thru the water will decrease life of battery
But it’s plenty enough for all day fishing in our ponds.
Live and learn 😊 It's happened to all of us at some point.
Indeed… my math was faulty…😂
Nice test 👌 👍
Get a 100 ah battery use that to fish and keep the 60ah battery in boat so that when a 100ah battery is used up you can get back...
That was my first time out to test over a year ago. I’ve been fishing with this battery all day without any problems. That was a torture test.
@@FishyAngler Haha the paddle back was torturous I bet :)
@@GoldChump the good thing I was paddling with the tide…. One has to do it at least once…😂
@@FishyAngler I appreciate the video as I was wondering how well a 60ah would do. I'll use one for back up now. Funny rowing story. Our lake level ( Applegate Lake in Oregon) varies based on weather/heat of summer and previous years snowfall. I did an all out test going around the entire lake when less than 1/2 full ( the lake 1/2 full) and i had plenty of battery left - hardly phased the battery. Brought my wife out and figured I could do it again with her. Well lake was full this time and surface area around lake almost twice the distance. about 2/3 rds around battery dies so I have 3 miles left about row row row. Luckily the wind was behind us so was an easy row. Typically the wind changes direction in evening which would of made me paddling into the wind, but it stayed behind us at about 10 mph fortunately. I'd still be paddling back had it changed :) Thanks for video!
You are welcome. I was hoping this video will help someone.
Are you from the area. ... I'm always going fishing and look for a fishing friend.... I live right by blue rocks stadium .... I just got Colorado pontoon boat picking up tomorrow at Christiana Mall bass pro.. trying to find best battery for me also I might get lithium
I live in Bear. You definitely want lithium battery in a small boat. The weight difference is incredible.
Great video my friend 👍
I've been using a 35Ah for a 30 lb. Minn Kota....It's a Duracell dry cell used in mobility scooters and fits in a small battery box and has worked great getting me around when fishing from my tunnel boat in freshwater. I also have a smaller dry cell that powers my nav and courtesy lights under the forward deck.
I use a separate battery for my fish finder too. Now I know how far I can go on it before I start paddling. 😁
So roughly how long this combination can last? Thank you.
Why would you not test your battery closer to your home ramp?!
😁 it wouldn’t be fun… Besides I wanted to explore the river.
@@FishyAngler We'll just say you wanted adventure!
Were you using top speed? The top speed draws too much compared to the 3rd speed. I saw a graph on a video where 4th and 5th speed almost look like not worth using unless its just to teavel a short distance
Yes, I was using top speed for this torture test. And yes, comparing power draw on different speeds, it doubles between 3rd and 5th speed.
@@FishyAngler cool accent btw
@@5wisher5weet thanks.
Great test
Thank you for watching…
What a test...
The voltage for lifep04 is not a good way to see the capacity... (it has a very liniar discarge curve, the voltage is the same for long period)
Use a watt meter to see much of the capaticity is used...
When i charge a battery, i use a charger which can show many watt you have charged on the battery.
When discarging at watt-meter tell you how musúch is used...
That test was my first attempt to play with lithium battery a year ago. Since then I use ammeter and now I know exactly the battery lasts. With normal fishing it lasts all day in our ponds. Thank you for watching.
Are you using a PWM speed control in your set up?
I’m using built in Minn Kota speed control.
😂😂😂 the test is so good it outlast a iphone 😂😂😂😂
The timer killed it. 😁
Haha yea it did. Did it overheat or just ran flat i would try invest in a usb socket or powerbank if it just wan flat theres lots of portable ways out there
The stop watch drained the battery. Now I know I need more juice for that app usage.
The joys of discovery.
Had to work for it…😂
It appears to be a over heating issue
Battery was drained completely for sure . But overheating might help too.
Overheating causes to drain and shut down faster
Sir why didn’t bring extra batteries fyi , ? 😅
I didn’t have an extra $350 battery laying around. 😁
Great review! Amaizing
Thank you.
@@FishyAngler you made me decide to order a 50ah lithium battery. I am tired carrying the 100ah AGM that weights 60 lbs
@@voookal 50 amp is good for short trips, when you don’t use motor heavily. My 60Ah last me all day on low speeds?
From Churchmans to Brandywine that's a long haul.
It is. Now I know what my battery is capable of.
@@FishyAngler I kayak fish the Christiana a lot especially up the white clay.
@@earlybird7402 I fished there a few times. Planning to go there again later in the season.
Thank you for your sacrifice lol
Ha ha..
I always keep a spare 15ah in the hull for emergencies.
I pushed it to far that time. But, for normal day of fishing it’s more than plenty. I never run out of charge since then. It was the ultimate test. 😁
@@FishyAngler looks like it was your ultimate test lol, that's a long paddle.
@@Orticai it was a good workout. I don’t regret it…😂
@@FishyAngler do you have any videos or opinions on solar trickle charges for tm batt?
@@Orticai No. I don't have solar charger. But, I have seen other people do it. My issue is a real state on a kayak. But, I guess one can install portable solar panel on the bow.
At least you got to work out
It was a good exercise. 😆
Why run these tests. Just calculate amp draw battery ah to get your run time. People that claim to last a.week without charge have no idea what they're doing.
Wanted to see the actual usage for the battery, faults, etc… Theoretical data sometimes doesn’t match the actual data.
not good to drain battery down completely could ruin battery. should have brought a second battery to get home, idk, lol.
Haha. Didn’t have another battery. But, had a workout. That was one time thing. Battery is fine and works well after more than a year.
Lithium batteries are fine to drain complete.
You forgot to show the battery.
I have a video building the battery box. You can see it here. th-cam.com/video/fkYurALVc9k/w-d-xo.html
You need solar😂install
Nah… it was torture test. Where I fish it lasts all day with some charge left. 😁
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no ... deffantly not ...
a watersnake 18 pounds draw 15 amps by full, ... a 24 pounds 20 amps ... and that minecota looks like 40 pounds minimum, so expect about 30 amps minimum!
the batterie is o.k...
you must check the real ampdraw of the engin ...
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Thanks. That was a year ago. I know what my motor draw now and how long it lasts .
👍👍👏👏
even if you go low or high you are still using the same amount of amps from the trolling motor switch , change it o a pmw that you can dial the power so no loss of power by heat...you can get more time from your battery if you make some modifications to the standard trolling motor, plenty of yt videos to explain it here ...I knew you went too far one way on that small battery even before it died !...lol
I have ammeter now. And the amp draw between 3rd speed and 5th speed doubles.
You should drop that phone overboard and get a real one, the heat issue kills drone pilots all the time, at least once!
And by real phone you mean Android? 🤣
Small bms hit overload and it shut down to protect it. Maybe Idunno
The battery was discharged. Once it dropped under 12v, it’s game over. 😁
@@FishyAngler Bummer. Just seemed like it would have run a little longer. 100ah next time lol!!! I just got a 100ah amperetime so far it has been very nice. Blows my lead acid batteries out of the water. Merry Christmas to ya!
@@larryperry2094 I abused it in that test. I wanted to see how long it lasts. I’m using this battery for normal fishing in local ponds and it lasts all day with some charge left over. Of course on larger lakes it won’t last long if you need to move distances. Merry Christmas to you too.
@@FishyAngler ahhh some time at the pond for research and development lolololololololol!!!
how long will 1/2 speed last?
Speed 2 draws 8-9 amps. Speed 3 - around 15 amps. So, speed 3 should last 3-3.5 hours. Speed 2 - 4-5 hours.