Mr. Heater 30K BTU Propane Heater Final Installation!
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- Finally got around to doing the follow up video to the original video I did on the Mr. Heater 30k btu Propane heater. I go over the hardware I needed and how i went about doing the installation. Hope this helps everyone!
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I've install well over 100 of this type of units. You did a perfect job explaining each step of the install. Cosmetics of the job was impressive.
Thank you! I really appreciate the compliment! Have a fantastic day!
Nice workmanship
Nice work!
Thanks for sharing !
Thanks for the information 👍
Your absolutely right. This video helped me out. Guess I'm going to Northern Tool to get that hose/regulator kit...
Thanks for making this video brother
@@brandondenton494 depending on the situation, talk to your fuel provider. They installed the outside line and proper regulator per my requirements. They told me what size line to run through the wall and pressure checked my part of the install. Thanks again man!
I heard you mention something about the 11 inch water column when you were talking about the regulator kit. When you went outside you said you had to get the regulator up a little higher is that also due to the water column? I mentioned the water column stuff to someone and they thought it was only if you were to bury your tank. I'm going to read up on it more.
Water column is a method of measurement of pressure 11" is equivalent to about .50 pounds of pressure. Every appliance is going to require this amount to operate correctly. This has nothing to do with tank placement. The regular he showed is a second stage regular and has a vent that needs to be above local snow fall height. That why he had to raise it "up"
Thanks @@donshirkey7491!
I’m wanting to add this to inside my home as I have a heat pump system. It doesn’t do too well in temps like we had last year. We saw -1 and I never experienced negative temps until last winter. On top of that we had those scheduled blackouts during those temps and it was just an awful experience. That being said I need something to supplement my heat pump system. Would it be too costly to operate? Considering 100lb tank or maybe 2 in conjunction. Local propane company won’t work with me on filling or renting a 420lb tank as “ I won’t be using enough” since I’m only using it for a gas fire place. Just curious to know your thoughts about using it inside the house and about what to expect to see on gas usage.
Just be careful, while it is considered ventless, it still needs a window or door cracked from time to time to keep some fresh air circulating. As for fuel usage, I would use a 20 lb tank in 3 to 5 days depending on usage.
Do these have a thermostat option? Will the blower kick back on if there’s a power outage?
It has a thermostat, but not a traditional degrees style unit...it has 5 settings..... so like low, low medium, medium, medium high, and high... as per the blower kicking back on, I would imagine it wouldn't be an issue kicking back on after the power came back on.
Curious about the plug above the sediment trap. What is this for? I have a similar heater that requires the same setup however my instructions list a reducing t from 1/2 to 1/8 where the plug goes. Having a hard time finding a reducing t this size. Considering doing the same as you did
They label it a test gauge connection. I believe the intended purpose is the propane supplier will pressure test the set up at this point to check for no leaks.
You don't need it, the propane supplier can test at the 2nd stage regular.
Great video. I have a lot of questions.
Thank you! Hopefully I have some answers....what are the questions?
So did you say that this a wood shop? I am looking at the same heater for my 16x32 wood shop. Trying to decide .. Open flame or ceramic in a wood shop?
Hello JEB! Yes it is a woodshop. Everything i found it sounded like the ceramic was better for my purposes. I just keep certain things in mind when the unit is running. I don't sand or do anything producing a fine dust while the unit is burning or heating. If I need to sand, I turn the unit off.
You are actually not supposed to put tape on flared fittings which are the brass ones where the flex hose is connected. When you tighten it the tape can cause it not to seal.
- 7 year experienced propane technician
A little oil on the flare face connection will give it a good seal. HVAC Mech/ tech
How is the heater? Is it doing it’s job? Thinking about getting two for the house cause the price of oil is killing me
In the workshop it has been a solid performer. For the price point I feel like the value is there. I seem to remember multiple people in the comments having told me of their use in homes and or trailers. In the workshop I had no complaints.
How about an update December 2023? Thanks for your video.
Do you know if this would work with the Mr Heater Big Buddy also??
I'm not very familiar with the big buddy unit. Is it considered a ventless unit?
I have the same heater with the yellow metal hose and want to hook it up to a 20 and or 30lbs tank. Do I need a regulator and can I use the yellow flex hose to hook up to my tank with or without the propane tank.
I have another video with my original installation which was temporary and I used a rubber hose kit that mr. Heater sells and it comes with a required regulator. It controls the flow rate to the necessary units.
@@HermanWoodworks I have same heater. I've watched several videos can't find out how to adjust pilot light.
@@joeharris5851 I haven't had to adjust the pilot at all.
Question. How would you rate this to something like a Hot Dawg propane heater? Can you put this on a thermostat? How do you like it over all?
I have personally never owned a Hot dawg heater. I believe they are forced air units and would probably move alot more heat and air around. Over all the mr heater unit worked very well for me. I recently sold that house but im looking at units for my next workshop.
This unit is thermostatic controlled. The main control has a number system ( 1,2,3,4,5) between 1 and 2 will keep the room about 70'
What size pipe goes from the 8" pipe through the wall to the outside where the propane company hooked into?
Everything outside the gas company installed....I ran a 1/2" line through the wall.
@@HermanWoodworks Thank you.
@@dh1703 no problem! If you can, contact your fuel provider and check with them first. They may require something different or local code may be different also.
How much propane does it use (how king to burn through a 100gal tank, for example). I know it depends on the outdoor temp and how hot you keep the area, but I'm curious about a ballpark.
I renovated a garage into a hangout area, and I'm on the fence between this and a mini split.
Well a 20 lb tank which I use to run on this setup would last a week of intermittent use... depending on your situation, I would ask how your area feels during the summer. That mini split will cool during the summer. My shop is in a shaded area and heat hasn't been a issue with the amount of insulation i have.
A 100 lb. tank... as a source to a blue flame, mid-size vent free heater will last about 11 days if it is on a LOW setting and runs CONTINUOUSLY... In other words, about 275 hours total run, burn time.... I am using this info from my own experience of 5 years using a PRO COM brand heater which does not have a THERMOSTAT on the unit, only three settings of heat burn rate... (low, med., high).. A 40lb tank will last almost 5 days, etc...
To me, for best economy, I prefer a blue flame over an infra-red heater.... For localized heat, an infra-red type may be preferred... However, HEAT will move toward cold as a general rule... Small fans may be used to direct the heat out or down as desired...
Now, to me, much of the hook-up and set-up stuff is related to the degree of REGULATION/INSPECTION in your area... (Having used these heaters and LP for more than 5 years, I am not afraid of keeping my tanks INDOORS or in a garage while I use them to burn... I actually feel in many ways that this is SAFER)... and, if you go this way, you don't need all the extra crap this guy uses on this video and set-up...
Here is what you need: a 3/8 BRASS... NPT thread fitting which is a 90 degree elbow to a male flare end... This goes into the base of the heater...(be sure the heater is set up or made to use LP GAS--) From there, most any (grill-type) hose ( say from Lowes or Home Depot is safe enough to use indoors... everything from here is usually 3/8th FLARE fittings.) Most times you can easily find a hose with a regulator on the end and also now ends in a "normal" plastic grille type fitting which will go on any 20, 30, or 40 lb. tank... which is simple, fast, and tight... At this point, I also put in a GUAGE device so I can see how much is left in the tank... these are also set to go into a grille type set-up...
If you are hooking up to a 100 lb. LP tank, you will need to start with a 5/8th inch REVERSE thread fitting which screws into the tank and ends with a brass grille type receiver...( these can be found on Amazon, no problem)....
Now, very important.... YOU SHOULD NEVER SMELL ANY GAS SMELL.... NEVER...
(if you do, something is WRONG.. you have a leak somewhere... TURN EVERYTHING OFF IMMEDIATELY) And, DO NOT TRY TO INSTALL BY YOURSELF IF YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING... (It is not that hard... if you use caution and go slow and know what your are doing..)
You get about 90,000 BTUs in a gal of propane, (30,000 btu unit ) 3 hours per gallon with the unit on highest setting
Great videos, shut off valve, drip lag... Don't need the clean out tee. Shouldn't have tee fitting in wall.
Yellow or Blue Teflon tape works.
I swear to God, you sound EXACTLY like Louis C.K.
Can u please tell me how the Thermostat works im think of putting it in a off grid cabin and want it to stay 60F degrees all the time in the cabin but unsure the 1-5 thing
So its kind of a trial and error process, depending on your building size, insulation level....I keep mine on 2 when I'm in the building in the winter and it seems to stay around that 60 degree mark....
@@HermanWoodworks how big is the area ur heating???
28x28 with a 12 ft ceiling....inhave r30 insulation in the ceiling with r19 in the walls. And everything is drywalled over finally...
@@HermanWoodworks mine is 16x24 with 6.4ft not insulated yet
It will heat it up well for sure!
Can you show the numbers on the first stage regulator on the 500 gallon tank? Thanks!
Let me see if I can get a picture in a little bit...
With the weather here in Ohio I didn't get a chance to grab that picture....ill try to remember tonight.
Def a wood worker lol but awesome install for DYI. 💪
OMG id hate to know how much it cost to fill that tank up!!!
My brand new blue flame heater works but the burner cycles on and off when it barely reaches 60 degrees. I have the thermostat set on 5. I would think it would stay on until at least 70 degrees. What could be the problem?
Hmmmm sounds like the thermostat is not functioning correctly....
@@HermanWoodworks I thought it might be oxygen sensor so tried raising window but didn’t help much. The pilot light stays on so not sure if oxygen sensor but that’s what company tells me.
@@dblaylock22 yeah it is definitely not getting hot enough, I set mine at 2 and it gets to 60ish degrees in a 28x28 building with 12 ft ceilings.... I wonder if the regulator is allowing enough fuel....
@@HermanWoodworks I’m not sure but I’ve had it going for a couple hours on 5 and it hasn’t made it above 65. It’s hard to believe it’s an oxygen problem since the window is raised a good 6 inches.
@@dblaylock22 Does it have a high limit?
I want this for my shed but as you go through explaining, and I appreciate it all, but it's as I see it. But the burner at a fair price, then try and find the hoses and connections. Have you been into these big box stores lately. You can't find one soul that knows what connection fits anything. You even show, I have this connection- sausage it fits this or that? Yep, I am too stupid to hunt here and there for many maybe fitting pieces. And if I did get something it wouldn't be meant for that unit. Oh well- enjoyed the video, just proves my thoughts are correct in- I can't start this project and certainly wouldn't trust anyone I just picked from a call.
Hello Ed! I also did the first part video where I used a "temporary" line that included the regulator. I used that setup for a few months until I di this final install. That may be worth a watch also to completely make up your mind! Hope it helps!
@Herman Woodworks
It just seems it would be simple enough, a few parts from the place I'd buy the burner, screw them together and I'd have heat. For a temporary time is perfect, I don't want to be doing stuff outside in damp cold weather. But to not even have the feet available - hunt them down and wait another week. And regulator from somewhere else. I want to know- I bought the burner here, where's the other stuff and when it doesn't work I'm not hunting more. I'll look for your other post in a bit, thanks.
Can that be split for a stove?
Like an outdoor grill or a indoor hot plate?
Cant get elbow not to point at leg.cant get hose on.back to store it goes
I would suggest galvenized pipes on the exterior to prevent rusting. Its code in my state to use galvanized pipes outdoors
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Technically the drip leg you made is setup wrong…
Technically he does not need a drip leg, by code drip legs are only required if a unit is not manually operated. Water heaters, furnaces, generator's pool heaters, propane is a isolated system. The code was made with the thought of natural gas, whereas multiple homes and appliances are hooked to the same system. ( repair or addition upstream keeps particle's damaging appliances.