Special Ops Handguns Pt. 2 - Shooting Suppressed with HK45C
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In Pt. 2 of our series on Special Ops Handguns Ken and I demonstrate the differences of shooting suppressed vs. unsuppressed with the HK45 Compact and an AAC can.
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For 12 yards, that grouping is pretty bad actually
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It’s Larry Vickers…
@@coljones98still bad
David Bowie does stippling? I guess we really can be heroes...
Bowie always was a trend setter...
Hes a Starman
He used to have a merch stand at all his gigs doing custom stipling jobs
I... I can remember!
I thought the same thing and after 0.5 seconds I saw this comment🤣
When I first saw the SIG P228 over 10 years ago I fell in love with it. I'm eyeballing the FNX-45 Tac though.
Semper FI tactical
Thats also a great choice.
Here’s an idea. How about ...we don’t have the “suspenseful Cinematic drums and musical orchestra music “while we are demonstrating how loud ...or quiet ...a pistol is not!!!???!!!
@John Doe Thank you for adding a bunch of words that contribute NOTHING to the conversation, but we prefer that our suppressor advice to come from a credible source. That begins with the ability to spell "suppressor."
This is the part where you become defensive and try to blame your ignorance on spell check, auto correct, or anyone else. It usually ends with an attempt at making yourself feel better, by calling your detractor the "grammar police" and falsely claiming that spelling is NOT a function of education or experience.
Thank you! It is the only thing dumber than ringing steel plates to kill any perspective on suppressor effectiveness. They actually went out of their way to dub white noise, usually it is just ignorance and apathy that ruined a video.
@John Doe No one, at any time, asked if it was "hearing safe" or not. The op made a statement, he did not ask a question. Thank you for regurgitating internet info in an attempt to answer a question that was never asked, while overstating the obvious. USGI 45 ACP is not trans-sonic out of any barrel length, unless it is fired from a moving jet aircraft, so I'm not sure why you mentioned that. Decibel is db, not DB. A capital d is the obsolete abbreviation for "deca," or 100 times "deci," and a capital B indicates "Beta," not bel. Like I said, we will solicit our information from knowledgeable and credible sources.
@John Doe Curiously, you have the vanity to write a filibuster to justify the answer to a question that was never asked, but not the self-respect or ambition to go back and correct the spelling of "suppressor" that made you look like a pool in the first place.
@John Doe Please don't take it personally, as it is nothing personal; I speak to every undereducated, but overconfident, zealot the same way. Perhaps you can ask an adult to read the OP to you. Most who have graduated 5th grade recognize that a question mark between exclamation points indicates that the writer is incredulous, not asking a question. This is not even junior high literature; it is comic strip level. Your reading comprehension rates as low as your spelling and esteem.
I am quite content with my own property, issued property, and my competence with both. Unlike you, who couldn't spell "suppressor," much less "decibel" by which they are measured. The sad part is that you still haven't corrected your errors.
You are truly the Massad Ayoob of the trailer park. Wait, scratch that; he could read and write. Your pedestrian level commentary and sense of self-importance are better suited to video gamer channels.
Nobody wants to hear proverbs from someone who is struggling to write. The "Doe" in your name is befitting; the emotional response is certainly feminine, and even YOU can't butcher the very basic spelling of "Doe."
HK45CT Masterpiece Handgun
*****
What do You think of HK Handguns or a specific one You like?
+R Rem Are you trying to say there is no MK24?
Buying one of these tomorrow, then probably a P226 Legion in .357Sig and then a P226 MK25 FDE, unless I can find a Walther PPQ .45 (No one seems to have the .45 yet in Canada). I have the PPQ M1 Navy 9mm now and would love to get all 3 calibers. I have my eye on a .300BO upper for my DD MK18 too. The start of Jan I bought a S&W M&P 15-22 for cheaper practice and the Ruger 10-22 Take Down. So many great guns I want, but it's so hard on the wallet. Absolutely love my DD MK18 and the TA02-RM01 4x32LED ACOG I topped it with.
***** I had actually saved watching for two years bouncing between want of a HK USP .45 or the HK45CT, and went with the HK45CT. Love it- yes big bucks, but it is a dam nice Gun and an HK!
I do prefer Handguns with a Hammer. I'm looking at a Grand Power Handgun from Slovakia now, their P-45. I want to keep my ammo all in .45 caliber, because I lack big bucks and it will just make it just easier all in the .45 picture. Plus with the .45 it don't matter the ammo still a bigger hole in the enemy subject (and a bit of a psychological Pro too). Anyways, what drew me to the Grand Power is the rotating barrel and I like that it is set for Left Handed too (yes me left handed). I do want to try one and see what I think, while I grow the funds. What I've read so far I haven't seen anything turning me away from it.
I won't knock Glock, yes they do cover and have been there in the world of pistols. The Glock you mentioned is pretty nice and up from the Glock23 vs Glock19. Someday I would like to have a Glock.
I do like HK Handguns though quite a bit, just lack the funds! Ha- my contradiction scerario.
+R Rem The HK45CT is the Mark 24, the Mark 23 is the huge long .45 from HK. The 25 is a Sig P226 9mm.
I’m trying to hear what the gun sounds like but they keep playing crappy music over it.
Who’s the genius idea to crank the music up while demonstrating a suppressor?
There’s a relatively simple solution to the point of impact shift. (I’m sure this isn’t an original idea.) An optic with two or more dots (like the E.O. Tech’s) in a Trijicon RMR size would account for both point of aim/point of impact shifts suppressed or non suppressed.
EOTech, not E.O Tech's.
Watching anything about guns makes the video 100% enjoyable
I wanted 2 here how quite the suppressor was DAMN music 👍
Larry, great series. I look forward to seeing more on Tier 1 pistols.
These two guys make a good team!
Cool video. I thought there would a a slight shift of POI with the suppressor. However, at the closer distance I was rather surprised it was not much difference.
S&S Precision's "Silent Killer Holster" fixes that issue with re-holstering sidearms with suppressors. However, I have not heard from that since Shot Show 2014 of last year so...
My Mark 23 doesn't have any noticeable shift in impact at 20 yards when suppressed or unsuppressed.
That was a deliberate design choice in the production of that pistol. They really put a boatload of R&D into it as it was supposed to be an "offensive" handgun.
You also have more barrel length , I think that might clear 4 inches on the 45CT barrel haha
If it hasn't already been mentioned, poi can be adjusted with the aac tirant to match with unsuppressed poi
Why play the heavy drums everytime a suppressor is used?
If I didn't know who Larry was, I would think these videos were just a bunch of random fat old guys standing around shooting guns lol
I'm looking to get the hk 45 myself the full size. My question is what is the rubber gasket on the barrel for and how long to they last
i haven't noticed much of a shift on my 1911 suppress and not. most of it seems to be getting used to the changed sight picture
He also doesn't have suppressor sights. How knows how much more accurate he would have been with proper sights.
Great series
Thinking out loud here ...as for the can being placed on and off for real situations ...what about a can with a quick release? Is there such a thing? I can see where an adapter could be made to go with a threaded barrel.
+tony escobar There are quicker ways to attach a suppressor to a firearm besides direct thread. Military Arms Channel has a video where he goes in depth on suppressors. It's a good watch.
Cool to see this set up. I live in CA as well and sadly john1002mm is wrong the hk45c is not on our "safe handgun roster" and our "single shot exemption" is gone so we cannot own this handgun. We also cannot have threaded barrels on ANY handgun, and its impossible to get a can in CA :( awesome vid!
Sacreppin916 Cali is running dry in more ways than one, Nevada is very pro freedom so is Idaho either one is a short jaunt for the better.
U-Haul time, good buddy.
By pulling the can away from the host and quarter turning it u can adjust point of impact so u don't have to move sites
Sights, not sites.
Love the vids larry!! keep em coming
Think it has more to do with tilt locking and the extra mass at the very end of the barrel
Love the HK45c!!! I shoot it all the time at local range. Love it even more in 40.
You love the HK45 in .40 cal? 😂
@@basedWisco715 late!! And yes i do!!
@@basedWisco715 love me some .40!!
@@basedWisco715 great round!!
@@TerryBollea1 it is a great round! I have a USPc in .40
There’s only one problem, the HK45(c) never came in .40. Hence why it’s called the HK45 lol
Why are you shooting at a 6:00 hold unstead of center of mass Larry
If I got a free HK Mark 23 every time someone called it a Mark 24 🤣 My Galil Ace pistol has major point of impact change suppressed, up and to the left about 4 inches each way at 25 yards.
Mk23 and Mk24 are two different designations for two different handguns.
honest man, what were you shooting at?
Amir Frost shut the fuck up
😂 I don’t think he needs a gun in his hands
The playing the music every time he shoots thing is annoying
I shoot the same HK, I call it the butter knife- so smooth to shoot.
AWESOME VIDEO
Good shooting
LAV's voice reminds me of Tom Hanks's voice. ;)
Hey Larry, how often are suppressors used in real world situations? Obviously the noise reduction is important but it's still decently loud.
+Roddy I'm no expert, but there is video of U.S. SOF units using suppressors even in large firefights. Even without subsonic loads, suppressors still help mask muzzle flash, sound signature, and the sound doesn't carry as far.
that superocean heritage is damn fine
Follow watch enthusiast, I rock an Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean (suppressed or not).
I like your videos. Wish you made them longer than 5-6 min though...
So it's a stripped version of the original ?
1) You need to bin those sights. Original H&K had sights that allowed you to see over the can.
2) I seem to recall that the original was manufactured so as to not have a point of aim shift. That was it's whole rasom de entre.
Dude I fucking love ur Chanel
the music everytime he shoot a gun was so freaking awesomr, i dont give a fish for those who dont like my opinian, but that music was awesome, thats why i sub to this channel
awesome, i live in california, but I can still get this, minus the suppressor of course
noticed your left handed but shoot pistols right. i do the same and just move the pistol over to my left eye. wondering if you larry or anyone else that shoots this way do yall slightly cant the pistol to the left or is it strait up and down.
I kinda do
Houdinii1212 I'm a lefty, I shoot pistols lefty but I'm right eye dominant so I have to shift over a little. I'm likely right eye dominant because I shoot rifles righty. I can shoot handguns lefty or righty pretty well but shooting a rifle left handed for me is quite the task. Yeah I'm all messed up haha.
+nateo200
Well nateo200- looks like there's two of us messed up, Ha! I was reading your comment here and I was like what- as if someone was describing me. As I'm exactly the same as you mentioned here. I'm left handed, shoot pistols lefty, but I'm right eye dominant. And I shoot Rifles right handed, which makes shooting a pistol left or right pretty well for me too. This is the first time I've come upon someone with the same Left and Right cranial circuitry for the body, Ha! Though I imagine there's a few more being a number of billions walking around.
I subscribed you also on this one.
To Guns! Carry On.
Houdinii1212 opposite of you actually, righty who only shoots left
Is a straight up iron sights and peq 15 set up still being used.
Error meter música en cada prueba, no es película de acción.
Por lo demás buen video
Hi folks, correct me if I'm wrong. At 12 yrds you were aimed at the bullseye, you stated that you held 6oclock. You grouped 5 shots below that... At 12yrds? Why so low? Not used to the gun or ammo? Just asking.
He partnered with hk to develop this handgun so I would hope he was familiar with it.
How do you use the sights with a can? Silencer-co Osprey! :-)
That music
I don't understand the full sized usp tactical has high sight provisions for a can already in place, ie you can actually use the sight and not kind of aim
I doubt something like a mk23 with a kac would have this problem
Sweet
Enjoyed the video with you and Ken. If you could clear something up for me. When you have these spec ops and high end 1911's you always have your point of impact very low on the target you never seem to be shooting for the bullseyes, and just my opinion but you call your hits on the target pretty good or a good for a 5 shot group and you end up with a least a 2 to 3 moa at 12 yards. That is not very accurate at all. I have seen you shot many different weapons very well but when it comes to shoots like this one and other vids you or someone will call pretty good or good!
bro needs to take some recoil control classes, that 45 makin his wrists snap
Is 8-10 round really enough for combat?
For a .45cal and the right shooter, that's already deadly numbers.
A Handgun is a 'primarily' a 'secondary' weapon in combat! 😅
I don’t see anything about Seals using HK. They use either Sig or Glock.
This vid was done before the Navy Seals switched to the Glock 19.
the seals dont use the glock19 supressed. thats what glock marketing whants you to believe. but suppressed = 45. and HK>glock. always was, always will be. glock is cheaper, but thats about it.
shoulder holster, with and without suppressor....
He totally pulled off center mass with the HK. 45 and tried to roll with it haha no issues with that, probably just needs to get more acquainted with the trigger on it
You do know he partnered with hk to develop this pistol right? I mean why would a former special forces guy who is shooting a pistol he helped to design know anything about the trigger break on this handgun.
HK will not warranty a suppressor other than a Knight's Armament on any of their pistols! I lost a $1000 pistol over a "Non Warranty repair on a week old pistol with 100 rounds through it. My Suppressor was a Osprey45.
What kind of malfunction did you have that permanently disabled the pistol?
The slide was allowed to slide forward over the hood of the barrel, slide , barrel and frame were broken
What happened did a bullet strike a baffle ?
SilencerCo should have replaced your pistol for you. They have great customer service, you should check with them if you haven't already.
Osprey is one of the best suppressors out, the issue wasn't the suppressor, most likely the barrel he was using
Sooo... I'm better than a fmr. Delta Operator? I used a USP @ 15 yd with a max spread of 5", heyholed more than half my rounds, 37 in the bullseye / 13 in the #9... and I hadn't practiced for some months either. I would think that the HK45c should be a better build given the o-ring lockup and its formal SEAL pedigree.
What ear pro is that?
He usually wears 3M Peltor TacticalPro Communications headset. They are good. I like mine. I'm not sure if these are them though, they look a little different, unless he has a rechargeable pack on them.
LAV what exact hearing protection are you using?
Mk.23 pretty please.
MightySavagE here’s a review; it’s unwieldy, overbuilt tank that NSWF universally hates and are collecting dust in arms rooms.
i have a question,how hard is to pull a slide of a pistol?Its heavy?
Depends on the weight of the recoil spring (and how tight the barrel/slide lock-up is). Pistols chambered in larger cartridges will generally require more force to rack.
ParabolicBox ok thx
It's not so heavy that it takes a strong guy to rack one.
No pistol slide is very hard to pull if you know the technique. I've seen a lot of women struggle to pull the slide on various pistols, but with some coaching on technique once they get it they can handle the slide on just about anything. You need to grip the pistol grip with your dominant hand, then when you go to pull the slide with your nondominate hand you need to pull and push at the same time, utilizing both arms in unison makes it a cake walk. Do it enough times and it becomes second nature. If you have trouble with a slide, you need to practice this technique. To some it's natural, to others it has to be taught.
nothing to it long as your not being ignorant or a want to be thug pulling with the sling shot technique
Ik goa veur de Hakkel&Kuch !
So what were they thinking when they designed the rail on the 45c? Seriously the only light I know of that fits on it is the Streamlight TLR-3. A 125 lumen light is not worthy to be mounted on an HK.
jkurubicon95 I think all the viridians fit
It's amazing how people who can't shoot for shit act like they know so much about everything. They act so cocky and you can't tell them anything. That's why they can't shoot for shit because they're not willing to listen and to learn. It's their downfall.
Are you implying that he sucks at shooting. He probably is amazing at shooting, because thats what you need to be able to do if you are in a Tier 1 unit like Delta Force
@@omercinar6693 His grouping wasn't exactly great. His trigger discipline is horrible. He had to readjust his grip after just about every shot...
@@omercinar6693 A title means nothing. His grouping showed it all.
Well he ain't amazing anymore. He and "Super" Dave are sub par by far in every video they do. Hackathorn on the other hand still shoots well as he gets into his 70s and never tries to act like he's more than he is.
He's not a competition shooter hes a fucking Spartan
If you stop the music when you shooting will be much better
Daniel defense
Mark 23 FOREVER !!!
What watch are is LAV wearing? Looks like it could be sexy
That's a HK45CT.
Did you slap the trigger with the supressor at 20 yards?
This accuracy is not good and If you were shooting well it's a gun-supressor problem.
I mean, I saw you shoot a pistol at 130 meters, on a prone human target, you know how to shoot, that must be the pistol.
I wish you well, but I sure do hate the way you edited the footage when you were actually squeezing off rounds.
You barely ever let the camera sit still on the target you're shooting at.
It's like you don't want to let us see where the slugs are landing.
Please don't do that anymore.
Thanks.
Dan Lewis Oh ok yea let's listen to some jackass on TH-cam who has 32 subs, 32 too many in my opinion with your Atheist bullshit OR we could let the guy who has 350,000 subs + continue to make his fine videos. What a chump faggot get the fuck out of here
Grow up, mouthy little boy.
I'm a professional in video production.
I'm trying to help, idiot.
Wake up. Grow up.
Dan Lewis Mock the weak
kind of skewed logic. just because he has lots of followers doesnt mean hes always right.
hey Larry you have a big fen in Russia exactly South of Russian Caucuses Vladikavkaz Alania if you didn’t hear our neighbors chechens city Grozniy I wish you best luck and best warriors and my ancestors are Alans end Skifs bye-bye and I’m watching you all the time and my name is Valeriy Gokoti Nice to meet you 10 years ago I spent a couple of years in the USA and very glad and I love in my heart and good memories
Compact .45 USP tactical?
NovaScotiaNewfie No the HK45 was developed after the USP and although they share alot of aesthetic similarities, they are quite different handguns.
NovaScotiaNewfie No the HK45 was developed after the USP and although they share alot of aesthetic similarities, they are quite different handguns.
It's sort of a hybrid between the P30 and P2000 but chambered in .45acp. USP is older model.
Wait he said he's gonna shoot at the bullseye, not below it..... the bullseye is the middle white circle.
+Dmitry ”The NoobZMaster” Granicin He said he would aim at it to show the difference the Suppressor does and if you need a sight adjuster when using a suppressor
***** Well in that case he needs to adjust his sights both ways.
+Dmitry “The NoobZMaster” Granicin
I`m fairly sure he meant the bullseye of the whole target?
Not sure though
HK are set from the factory to be cover hold (dot over the target). If you hold 6 o'clock, it will shoot low.
OMG he shoots better WITH the can
he cant show to save his life.
Does anyone else feel Larry's recoil control is, for lack of a better word, TERRIBLE?
Lol ! Your funny !
Hello from Canada where the gun laws are dumb and we can't go suppressed. Very envious.
They keep changing the camera view right at the point of the shot. Irritating.
Why didn't all the shots from a SF operator went straight through the bullseye like in the movies? Instead it seems like a normal person's day-out shooting. Why......???????
Too bad Chuck Norris retired from the detachment. He would shoot all his bullets straight through the bullseye! We need operator like him once again!!!
👍🏻🇺🇸
Not impressed with Larry Vickers.
SF dudes are not the best handgun shooters that would be competitive shooters or someone like a fbi response team
it's not hard just like airsoft gun
DanTDM DANTDM yeah...uh no. I have a M1911 and an airsoft Co2 M1911 they're not "basically" the same
Um, I'm sorry but did I hear you right? Were you dropped on your head when you were young? I've been airsofting for at least six years, been shooting for over ten, let me tell you, they are not the same
Holy trolls
I am very good person and I love weapons very much and very sad Russian Law can put me in jail because my hubby but I still have my AK-47 and my Tokarev
Yikes $1,000+ pistol is minute of barn door accurate.....
When you said MK.24 I went out of my way to look for it....but I think you meant to say MK.23....
HARDASS HERRERA Nope. The HK45 has pretty much replaced the Mk23 (although technically still in service) and is now in service as the Mk24
That's badass I didn't know
MK23, MK24 is the service issue acronym, the successor afterwards is the MK25 which is the Sig P226, etc.
Why would you put that ridiculous "music" when you are shooting a suppressed gun. You cannot tell the differences.
Keep both eyes open.......? We got a squinter on our hands boys!
Your recoil handling is like a child
Am I tripping or was he a really bad shot?? Like... terrible
Boy, this guy is a terrible shot.
Jesus man!!!! What's up with those groups???? Damn you need to scoot up closer, not back up!!! You're shooting way low dude
If you can shoot, you don't need a suppressor !!! 95% of people don't need to be quiet when killing someone in their home !!!! Just a thought !!!
yes they do need to be quiet, I have kids and 160 decibels indoors is deafening. So, stfu
That's stupid ,kids scream and listen to music that loud, get over it !!
Your kids scream and listen to music at levels comparable with gunfire?
Jason Broadhurst you've clearly never discharged a firearm indoors wo hearing protection lol.. it's a deafening sound like you've never heard before in your life..
Trust me I have, I was in the Army and yes its fucking loud !! But if someone breaks in your home and you don't have a silencer then WTF?? I have been to concerts louder that that though !!!
mk24 don't belong amongs sf pistols
Huh?
Why not?
Aim higher