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- Back with another in-depth guide (this time on a popular weapon type)! Can we actually somehow outperform Moonveil or Rivers of Blood?!? As per usual, if you have any suggestions, questions, or something important to add, feel free to comment down below.
P.S. The Wakizashi will be mentioned in the dagger video. I didn't really want to put it in the katana one as it would be pretty confusing when I repeat it in the dagger vid.
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0:00 Intro
1:05 Moveset differences (and weapon length)
2:40 Serpentbone Blade
3:35 Hand of Malenia
4:20 Dragonscale Blade
7:09 Meteoric Ore Blade & Moonveil
8:56 Rivers of Blood
9:48 Heavy/Fire
10:35 Keen/Lightning
11:15 Quality and Max level
11:45 Flame/Sacred
12:22 Magic/Cold
13:21 Poison/Blood/Occult
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The Wakizashi will be mentioned in the dagger video. I didn't really want to put it in the katana one as it would be pretty confusing when I repeat it in the dagger vid.
As for how it fares in the powerstance, it makes your powerstance move set slightly faster while using a bit less stamin. However, your range turns very short. My personal preference is to use another katana over the Wakizashi because it feels very awkward when your main hand is hitting but your off-hand is not. If you are a parry fan though, you can use the Wakizashi for the sake of parrying (but remember it overwrites your main hand katana ash of war).
Oooo are daggers next? Sounds fun
Parrying with Wakizashi is super cool but sadly dagger parries really suck. Use it for style points not practicality.
Thanks again for the time spent on this series I cant explain how much I'm enjoying it
Serpent bone does deadly poison not basic poison. It does a lot more damage.
I run a 40str/18dex/45int lvl125 build. Main hand Meteoric Ore Blade with Cold Wakizashi(Parry) in off-hand. Fun for PvE and PvP.😁
Nets me about 100frost, 90bleed(total), slightly faster dual combo AND a parry. Not bad
It's funny how the least toxic katana is the one that deals poison instead of bleed xD
Least toxic = worst, right?
@@xTiamat Katana moveset is amazing as is. Bleed is absolutely broken in PvP and PvE
The Serpent Blade has no bleed, deals poison, and has a nice skill to boot. I find it the most fun to play with, and against, for those reasons.
Also, why would you want to play with the best weapons? Isn't it kinda badass to dunk on your enemies by using weapons that aren't meta?
Bleed in Elden Ring and DS1 is horrible design. Idk what it was like in DS3 and don’t remember it being a problem in DS2, but the “I hit you so many times then I get to do a significant % of your health for free” is really awful and encourages lazy play and lazy design.
It does teach aggression, which is useful, but it’s so badly programmed that the aggression it teaches is 100% moronic.
It also lets designers be lazy. “How do we make this boss tougher? MORE HP. They’ve got bleed.”
It’s ALWAYS been a bad idea badly implemented. Nothing is good about it from a design perspective.
@@BloodyInitiate How can it teach aggression AND encourage lazy play? You're contradicting yourself. If you think the designers of this game are lazy you're out of your mind. The bleed and frost in this game do significant damage in comparison to other titles because they have a major lore significance. People seem to not recognize this.
@@VegGeorgie aggression isn’t inherently NOT lazy, that’s how it’s not a contradiction. Pressing forward and spamming R1 or L2 doesn’t make you “not lazy.” Having your build be “I buff up and then the game prohibits you from withstanding my attacks because the numbers are badly designed” is lazy. And the fact - yes fact - that the numbers are badly designed is also evidence of laziness. Players should almost never be one-shorting other players in a game this laggy.
EVERYONE is lazy about something. There isn’t enough time in your life to do everything as well as you possibly can. Just because you work hard at one thing doesn’t mean you work hard at everything and are excused from criticism forever.
From soft is seriously lazy about PVP balance, netcode, and a lot of other things. They’re great at level design, clearly possess prolific imaginations for enemy design, and have more ways for you to take an encounter apart than any other developer I can think of. Their lore is lazy, despite being lauded, because it’s the same in every game.
Bleed as it appears in this game and DS1 is just bad. It’s a bad idea badly executed. It allows players to be lazy by not actually learning to do damage with any other game mechanics. It allows developers to be lazy by just juicing up enemy HP instead of enhancing them with actually engaging mechanics like new attacks or better AI.
I'm unreasonably excited to watch this video. Your stuff is always awesome.
Wow, thanks! It takes me a lot of research and testing, so it's hard for me to output a lot of videos. I'm glad my videos are at least well received :D
@@Chrightt I'm new to Souls games and have felt completely clueless at times. Your hard work and research have really improved my understanding and enjoyment of the game. Thanks so much!
Now do curved swords! 😉
Another thing to note about the Meteoric Ore Blade is that its charged heavy attack is different from its regular heavy attack, in that it moves forward quite a bit. The charged heavy attack seems to be pretty good!
I fucking love it's heavy it's sneaky good
i fell in love with serpentbone blade
with the unique heavy attacks and poison ☠️
really fun alternative for a dex build
the mix up with double slash and heavy attacks catches ppl all the time in pvp!
If only the serpentbone was a regular katana, I'd probably main it if I get to infuse it with something else D:
@@Chrightt Yeah, since the poison claw and antspur can be infused it's completely stupid that the serpent rapier and scorpion dagger can't be infused.
It's a really good rollcatch in PvP. Also it's version of poison (while it's still weaker than bleed) is better than regular poison. The DPS of serpentbone's poison is roughly the same as scarlet rot
@@FelisImpurrator even worse I'd that claymans harpoon can be infused.
I hope they make serpent bone katana infusable in the future
You make some of the most comprehensive comparisons and explanations on this platform concerning Elden Ring. Always a pleasure to get learned and get relaxed by your voice. Much appreciation over here, keep it up!
Thank you kindly!
One thing that could be interesting to look at is differences in the same ash of war across different weapon classes. For instance, I've noticed that double slash is very slow when used on a curved greatsword, but fast when used on something like a straight sword or katana.
Imo the dragonscale blade should have intrinsic bleed or frostbite with a bit more scaling into strength
dragonscale needs a complete overhaul
Ice lightning weapons simply need to have their WA bonus damage scale with dex and int, with innate frost buildup. Easy fix, weapons good.
weaponart needs to be cheaper too, it's way too hard to land the hit, so you're really just using it to charge the blade
Dragonscale blade needs more damage, poise added to the weapon art so you can't ve knocked out of it, the frost lightning needs to last longer, and the lightning needs to travel out some if the enemy isn't close to you.
All these changes would make it decently strong. Right now it's not worth it.
Faith scaling please!
I’ve never used a katana in my life, but I love these breakdowns, seeing under the hood of my favorite game series, and letting someone else do the math.
Your analysis is so helpful, thanks for these videos!! This stuff takes a lot of work and clever thinking to figure out.
Great content. I appreciate the diligence you bring to your videos. It would be great to see a breakdown like this for critical hits.
I am soooo glad I subscribed to your channel. So in depth and amazing! Really helps me make my choices.
Thanks for the videos. It's been hard finding comprehensive knowledge on scaling for this stuff. I am excited for your next ones
Thanks! One more weapon breakdown coming up soon.
The way you organize these videos make my engineering-brain very happy, thank you for all the work you put into them.
Please keep up the excellent work. Big fan of your analysis.
Amazing insight. Very helpful. Im interested to see an int/faith build in the future. Thanks!
This is top tier content, keep it up bro
Thanks, will do!
Thanks for making this video! Really liked it. I pray the almighty algorithm recommends your videos.
This is exactly the video I needed to make my 57th Katana build! But for real, thank you so much for this.
I wish the dragon scale katana was stronger or had the buff last longer as it looks so cool compared to a lot of the other katanas.
Atleast your duration wish came true. Last I checked its a minute now.
as always amazing video and i love the lil puppy animations
I think this video didn’t mention that the Serpentbone Blade has a different version of poison that lasts 30 seconds and does double damage
Still hard to proc that poison. In pvp you will often kill them first.
Great content. Hope to see a video on Reapers/ Scythes 🤞🏽
Just found your channel from another youtuber, seems like great content. Thanks.
Awesome, thank you!
Man I love these videos!
Split damage is SIGNIFICANTLY better than it has been in any other From game, just because of the Crystal Tears that buff respective damage types. I feel this is worth mentioning every single type split damage is discussed.
Not only that, but defenses for bosses remain consistent, no boss has stupidly high defenses (unless it's a dragon) and if they do, it's in like 1 stat. Combined with that and how high AR your weapons get in this game, split damage is actually viable in this game
the ash on meteoric ore blade is actually quite strong in pvp. It provides a ton of hyper armor and can force people to make distance. It also can combo out of the running poke which then roll catches into the unique heavy.
I love your channel so much
Keep it up!
Thank you! Will do!
Awesome analysis... thanks
Glad you liked it!
Another great vid.
Great video! Doing a Katana run rn
I started a new playthrough just to use the Meteoric Ore Blade the moment I learned it's strong attack is Ichimonji Double from Sekiro, but god do I loathe that it's stuck with Gravitas as it's weapon art.
Yeah, not my personal favorite for a weapon art too.
Really? I love some gravitas. Catches other players off guard, and if your powerstancing you can usually get good followup damage.
@@pattonknew928 Yeah, Gravitas doesn't work that well vs better opponents. Works decent in invasions but kinda sucks in duels since the animation is long.
Thanks for providing the numbers here. Kept my uchis and nagakiba, and now I at least have a better idea what to do with them.
Very good video. Straight swords next pls!
I'm guessing you intend to cover all weapon classes. When that is done, do you intend to cover poise/hyper armor in depth, or is it too early to ask? Thank you for making the softcaps video btw!
Yes, I plan on covering all the weapon classes. As for hyper armor... I don't have enough information yet so I can't say. I'm also planning on:
1. A talisman vid
2. A dual wield staff guide
3. At least a few builds (optimized my style)
@@Chrightt cheers
Those katanas are good, but as someone who ran into Moonveil by chance and Rivers by choice, I can say that for the first it's because there is no other INT weapon as viable as Moonveil until you beat Radahn, Rennala, and Astel and get the Dark Moon Greatsword. Everything else is just a decent enough ash that usually isn't fast enough. For Rivers of Blood, it's good if you pump ARC and amazing if you pump both ARC and DEX. Same as Moonveil, there's really nothing as fast and hard-hitting in that category, though I would like to give props to Eleonora's Poleblade art for having enough poise damage to stunlock Malenia in her first phase and enough hyperarmor to power through anything shy of a pancake attack.
Personal opinions plus some of my friends:
Friend: Uchigatana is great for when you get it and can be used very quickly. Cannot recommend enough.
Me: Nagakiba requires either Altus Plateau or killing an NPC early, but it's got some impressive range on it for when you eventually get it.
Comments: Serpentbone Blade is really lackluster as its art is plain and cannot be changed, but it at least has some style.
Me: Meteoric Ore Blade is better if you plan on running STR/INT, as it will fall off in a pure INT build under Moonveil. It can work well early on, though.
Me: Dragonscale Blade is mid-game to reach, and the buff does not last long, but it's one of few ways to get freeze in pure physical builds without sacrificing damage.
Videos: Hand of Malenia requires beating the hardest boss in the game and getting at least 48 DEX. If you're using it, you knew from early on this would be the case. Art is cool, at least.
I'd guess that Uchi, Naga, and Hand are all reasonable options should your build work with them. Serpentbone really needs the ability to be ashed, or at least a better weapon art. Seems Dragonscale really just needs some buffs, as its moveset and build is fine; it could be interesting as a mainhand with a cold katana side.
Personally, I'd have put the Wakizashi in here since it powerstances with katanas but not with other daggers. You could just mention it once in the other video with a link to this one, as well, but this is fine.
"Early game" when regarding Dragonscale Blade doesn't really exist. It's in the Sea of Rot, which means clearing Nokstella, which means clearing either Nokron or Deeproot, which means either killing Radahn or reaching Lyndell. You're likely pushing level 100 by the time you even reach the boss that drops it.
I've been messing around with a poison mist nagakiba in main and poison moth flight wakazashi in offhand. Not by any means optimized but still fun trying to make poison more viable
Dragon Scale Blade should have innate frost and/or scale with faith to some extent. The looks of the AoW is TOP but maybe a bit of range will add more options
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I’d rather use uchis honestly, they make using them with other builds easy and can really be mixed with any katana
I have a question, you bring up bonus damage to dragons from the dragonscale blade, does anyone know of all the weapons that do this?
Your videos are so good, you need way more subs. They are way better than the other ER vids with people lying in the title and promoting crappy websites for ER weapons. ALSO this video rules because I am about to run Moonviel along side Rivers. I dont have rivers yet but im prepping for it. I also use the wakizashi in my left hand with cold infused on it with Glint Phalanx Ash.
If the dragonblade is the same as the dragon halberd with its buff it goes into crossbows if in the off hand for the damage and frost build up
Shame on me because I love the way the dragon scale blade looks, and I want to use it. I hope they give it a reasonable buff.
If only they let it scale to faith too and let the lightning buff scale to faith. That, and make the buff last like 30s minimum, and I'll be convinced.
@@Chrightt It doesn't need fth scaling. Int would make sense as it's ice lightning and Nox are always associated with big brain int sorcery. IntDex scale on ice lightning and at least double buff duration = already a great weapon, ideal offhand for dual Int katanas.
@@FelisImpurrator there doesn't need to be another int weapon, let alone another int katana. Let it have faith, since ice lighting is a faith incantation anyways.
If the lightning bolt the Ash of War brings down lands on the opponent instead of just on the blade and was simply faster, that would make it much more viable.
@@Chrightt I think you are way too focused some times on "What would be good in the game as is", without considering that maybe... DEX/STR are undertuned.
Enjoying the content maybe when you get to the category of weapons that have more in them like great swords split them up between the more int/faith required ones and more physical ones instead of one long video
I'm not sure how I'll split the video up because some of them might have few unique faith/int options so it'll be kinda weird. Also, sometimes a bit more options won't lead to that much longer if few are irrelevant. Don't worry, I promise I'll split them in a way that makes the most sense if it goes past 20 minutes!
New sub - you kow whats up. Great videos
It really says something about Katanas that even the worst one isn't even that bad in comparison to weapons like Varre's Bouquet, Loretta's War Sickle, and the Forked Hatchet.
I run a 40str/18dex/45int lvl125 build. Main hand Meteoric Ore Blade with Cold Wakizashi(Parry) in off-hand. Fun for PvE and PvP.😁
Nets me about 100frost, 90bleed(total), slightly faster dual combo AND a parry. Not bad
Crightt Breaks it Down RIGHT!!
I really appreciate these in-depth looks; I am very interested in seeing your opinion on whips and what the most effective way to use them is.
Will definitely be covering whips! Have seen more than one request already.
On my final Build, I am using a Moonveil and a Nagakiba. NOT Dual Wielding, just as single Weapons, switching back and forth (Dual Wield is cool, but I prefer fighting with only one weapon at once). The Nagakiba is Quality infused, and I use Incantation- / Grease Weapon Buffs, usually Bloodflame Blade, but depending on the PVE Situation (or if I want to throw off my enemy in PVP) I use something else. For Weapon Art, I actually use Double Slash! It has great Reach, and the Bloodflame makes it very powerful! Maybe not as potent as Rivers of Blood, but at least I am more versatile with different buffs, and the Double Slash Weapon Arts uses very, very little FP! It is also great to beat most enemys! using a Bloodflame Buffed Nagakiba is what I used to defeat Malenia =)
Excellent video on Katanas and probably the most in-depth one on the internet. However, the camera work at times was pretty horrendous. It made my head hurt with the jittery movements.
Can you do a video on whether the soreseals are worth the damage you can take from them?!?!
Please make video about hybrid build stat, like how many point should i put in int for cold infuse. The same for faith, and maybe suggest level that should not infuse fire/lightning (pure streng/dex) and use flame/sacred/cold (hybrid) instead
Ok so I’m bouta try something, so I’m using the talismans lord of bloods exultation and the kindred of rots exultation so my attack power goes up when I inflict bleed and poison/rot, so I’m using the rivers of blood and the serpentbone blade which inflict poison in power stance, could be kinda nutty for pve
Next video please compare and tell which sellen is best.
Would you do a video on how status buildup actually works, and how resistance affects it? I'm really enjoying these in depth technical explanations
Will do! Going to line it up on my list of ever growing vid requests. 😂So much stuff to do.
Enemy has 300 res. You have 100 buildup. You trigger status after 3 hits. (not counting status decay).
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I believe that the Serpentbone Blade's poison is actually nastier than most other sources in terms of damage dealt per tick.
Is there a chance you could mention more about PvE in your videos? Like in your seals video where you talk about something that would be better for PVE vs PVP. Or maybe just a video that explains what you should focus on if you're not doing PVP. I just want to beat Malenia without using a cheese meme build.
No problem!
Waiting for Axes, specifically for quality/cold infusions
Nagakiba is legit, I love running it.
Me too. I prefer naga over uchi purely because of the length.
@@Chrightt It's a fantastic alternative if all you want is a physical damage katana. The bit of bleed is a bonus and I tend to run it with Unsheath. I am trying it out with some Cold affinity now though and Double-Slash.
I just got Nagakiba and loving it. Just can't figure if 2H is better or power stancing with Uchi
@@hopzbagelz2896 I actually swap between those options as needed. I put Nagakiba on Cold and Uchi on Blood. My lvl 100 build is made to change up my weapon loadout whenever I want by just swapping talismans and headgear.
Love the nagakiba, helps lock in that sephiroth cosplay~
Always looking to find a good off hand option for my INT/DEX build, while I main Moonveil through the game.
Unfortunate to see Dragonscale/Serpentblade just as bad stat-wise, as I feel from the game. Guess I'll just stick with my Uchi after watching the analysis. Lol
I run a 40str/18dex/45int lvl125 build. Main hand Meteoric Ore Blade with Cold Wakizashi(Parry) in off-hand. Fun for PvE and PvP.😁
Nets me about 100frost, 90bleed(total), slightly faster dual combo AND a parry. Not bad
Wait, what about the Meteoric Ore Blades R2? Did that make it worth using?
The next build I want to try is a flame art uchigatana with a good ash of war and just level faith as my damage stat, even without all the powerfull ranged incantations you now have acess to, your melee can be boosted by stuff like golden vow and flame grant me strenght buffs. It might be pretty good
Agreed. Was thinking about the potential of a Flame Art/Sacred or Lightning/Dex Samurai build.
I ran powerstanced Beastman Curved Swords with flame art scaling on a strength faith build. Its strong asf
Dang, I was hoping for a definitive winner between Nagakiba and Uchigatana. Too bad both lose to RoB…
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Very informative video! I was wondering if you can do a breakdown of the scaling of weapons sometime :)
Would love to see some sort of guide that explains to me why for example the Sword of Milos despite having a C/C scaling reaches an higher AR when focused on DEX.
Yet, a blood Claymore which has C/C scaling reaches an higher AR when focused on STR.
Good luck and keep on the great work your doing!!
The S/A/B/C/D rating is not absolute. Think of it like letter grades in school. Getting an A can range from 93-100 points on a test. It works the same here. What you can be sure is if a weapon has a B rating in strength and a C rating in dexterity, strength will definitely scale better than dexterity. But if I told you Bob and Mary both got a C on their test, you're not sure who got 73 points and who got 76 points. I will make more videos on mechanics too!
you can actually powerstance a mh katana with an oh wakizashi. not sure if this is useful info as it's just a shorter version but I found it kind of interesting.
Yeah, someone else was wondering about the Wakizashi too, but I said I'll put it in the dagger video and mention its unique traits there. I didn't want to put a dagger in the katana vid as it would be confusing if I repeated it again for the dagger vid.
Hi, meteoric ore blade simp here. I run it with a charge attack focus build, and while I can attest the gravitas isn't the best weapon art (at least, it's no corpse piler) but between the hyperarmor & damage output of those snappy heavies, the way I've played grav is either - you get hit/staggered out of whatever you're doing, drawn in for what is either a guaranteed light (I think?) or a second mixup if I decide to throw a heavy. If you see it coming, then that means you owe me one roll. It might set you both back at neutral, but you basically ensure they react or get hit. It's a very fun game to play.
The problem with gravitas is recovery out of roll is faster than recovery out of gravitas animation, so if I do 1 roll and you are within my weapon range, I will always land a free hit (in PVP). If gravitas wasn't so damn slow, it'll definitely be a better weapon art.
@@Chrightt I suppose trading with disadvantage isn't like, the most conducive to doing well. Honestly wish it got something like waves of darkness, cuz while I enjoy grav it just feels so lacking, especially due to the long recovery.
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Hey champ! Great data videos. Do you have a discord or something? You should 100% make one!
Not yet! I'll definitely try to get one started. Some of my videos managed to blow up. I definitely didn't expect many people to watch me do math.😂
Does the dragon scale katana WA stack with any enchantments though? Because if so it might have some combos in which it'd shine.
As far as I can tell, you can't buff it with anything at all. Literally... nothing.
@@Chrightt besides it’s own weapon art 😫
Can Occult weapons get buffed by items/spells?
one thing to mention with serpentsbone blade it's poison is actually deadly poison and the same applies to venomous fang. and it does twice the standard poison damage over 30 seconds
This is right! I will be posting a video on how debuff works while also mentioning the 2 weapons that do deadly poison. I actually chose these 2 weapon types first because of deadly poison :P
@@Chrightt Poison spraymist also has it's own poison damage formula as well, so 3 different poisons falling under one category
@@robbe3334 ah, I only know the weapon ones. I know there are different poison types for PVE enemies too, but I don't know the exact numbers for the spraymist/PVE enemies.
Can you please look at claymans harpoon? Im trying to theorycraft a faith/int build around it but im bad at it
Clayman's Harpoon is good either being magic or cold to scale the int portion better. Sacred/Flame are not good options because you split AR 3 ways, which means it goes through defense thrice. I suggest using magic/cold with a magic-damage type ash of war and then using a seal for your faith needs. Sadly, if you want a int/faith melee weapon, the best bet is really sword of night and flame.
Could you please help me out? What is the best attribute distribution for an all rounder nagakiba double handed build?
What do you mean by "all rounder?" If you need help you can hop onto my discord. Link is usually in the description of my videos.
The thing about moonveil is that it falls off at higher levels. Moonveil’s weapon art does magic and slash damage that adds up to about the same damage as unsheathe. As per chrightt’s damage calculation video, this makes its damage reduced TWICE through magic negation AND slash negation.
The thing is, it is still more than twice as long as a naginata + unsheathe and also does more stagger damage if you hit both the aura + the blade while allowing you to run sorcery effectively. Most people hate it because of PVP, but in PVE other builds definitely grow stronger to match moonveil more effectively.
@@Chrightt the range definitely makes it annoying for pvp, but I’m pretty moonveil does the same stagger damage as unsheath now even if you hit both the aura and slash
What is the range on moonveils transient moonlight vs nagakiba unsheathe?
The light attack transient moonlight is a bit over 3x as long. The heavy attack transient moonlight is over 4x as long.
Craightt,
I need to disagree on the Meteoric Ore Blade with you.
The Weapon Art is useful in certain circumstances. I created a new Astrologer and rushed the Blade and the Meteor staff to build a low level gravity mage.
I was able to poise break the Troll / Giant near the Gatefront Grace with 2 heavy attacks and was able to dismount those Kaidan riders with a single Weapon Art.
It instantly knocks any flying enemy out of the air as well.
This is just something that i still need to test but, I saw a video where someone pitted the full-grown Star beast (whatever) vs Radahn and it cancelled his 2nd phase jump with the gravity attack. Maybe this works with this katana as well.
Anyways, the Weapon deals HUGE poise damage for easy stance breaks and the WA beats those annoying bats out of the air instantly.
Buddy, may you create the same videos for one-handed swords for dual wielding?
I am going through the weapons one by one. I'm trying to do ones where I've already tried/tested so I don't have as much things piled up (while I get time to test some other stuff). Will definitely do one-handed swords, but got a few other vids lined up first.
@@Chrightt thanks a lot buddy, i really appreciate your work and efforts
I'm super bummed that only the Meteoric Ore Blade has that special heavy attack. Not only for the fact it is reminiscent of the Ichimonji double from Sekiro, but also because the katana it is exclusive to is unique and can't be infused with a different AoW or affinity.
Yeah, I actually quite like the kendo slashes, but I don't want use the meteoric.
The one i use the most is ichimonjo katana
To Chrightt & Fellow Community Members, I have a very interesting question about the Meteoric Ore Blade's R2 Attack. PLEASE READ:
Would the Meteoric Ore Blade's Kendo-styled heavy attack apply a headshot damage multiplier to an enemy if the strike successfully lands headfirst- and if so, would that make its R2 & Charged R2 more powerful than that of its counterparts in comparison?
( Note: I'm referring to the same ability that bosses with downward, vertical melee/weapon attacks have, where if their attack strikes you directly from above, more damage is afflicted to your tarnished simply because their attack also landed as a headshot. )
Thank you to anyone who ends up responding with a potential answer or looks into the game code to find out directly. 🙏🏽
What about power stancing? I am using Rivers of Blood and am doing a Faith Dragon build, but when I'm not using incantations I think it'd be badass to use 2 katanas.
I'm thinking of Uchi in my off hand with bleed Sepuku on it. But you've made me think putting occult on it might be better
Occult would be better if you have higher arcane investment which I think you probably do because faith+arcane so your str/dex would be lower. Occult will give you better stats.
@@Chrightt Thank You! I just want to say I really appreciate your channel, it is my first resource for all things Elden Ring. you are an math wizard!
ahm.....As always awesome video. However...
The Wakizashi actually pairs with katanas when dual wielding and not with knives.... I am sure you considered that but probably excluded it for the purpose of simplicity. However I would like to request that when inevitably you make the knives video, you investigate if there is a point to use Wakizashi over another Katana and if using 2 Wakizashi actually makes any sence. Thanks and keep the good work.
regular katanas dont stab at all for 2 handed heavy attacks. the nagakiba and metorite heavies are the same though
I wish you mentioned power stance options and the Wakizashi in the video.
Ah, for powerstancing for most people it literally is just naga/uchi with seppuku (which is very effective). The wakizashi will be in the dagger video. I was wondering if I should include it in the katana video, but I figured I was really explaining katanas as a main option. The Wakizashi's reach/weight is still more suited for the dagger. I will be mentioning it and talking about its powerstance with katanas instead (otherwise I would be including something like the sacrificial axe in a mage video instead of an axe video).
Also, I will most likely be doing a video on powerstancing in general or dual wielding weapons of different types. Sorry, I didn't want the video to be too confusing by including a dagger into a katana video instead of the dagger video. Although, if you want some quick thoughts on Wakizashi, I think it is an ok option if you like the faster powerstance, but the damage isn't higher because the Wakizashi just deals less damage. Personally think it is good for roleplaying as a samurai, but not an extraordinarily effective combination to replace just off-handing another katana because of the short range.
@@Chrightt Looking forward to the power stance video then. Thank you for the reply.
Do enemies in PVE have flat damage reduction or is it just a PVP thing?
All PVE enemies have at least 100 def of all type, which means yes. It is a PVE thing too.
I wanna like the serpent bone blade but doesnt even seem like high arcane effects it
Wait, how does having two different damage types make to lose more dps from defense compared to one damage type? I mean, If a enemy had 10% damage reduction to any type of damage, and you did 100 damage, you would end up with 90 damage, but if your weapon did 50 physical damage and 50 cold, you would and up with 45 and 45 damage, so 90 again? Or is there a flat damage reduction, like -10 damage, in which case you would get 80 damage instead of 90 in the second scenario?
having split damage reducing damage is assuming both damage types have the same negation and defense. Reduction is split into negation (a % reduction) and defense (more of a flat damage reduction). So yes, there is a flat damage reduction. All PVE enemies have at least 100 defense (and all players have some level of defense too - very dependent on player level). If your weapon has 400 AR of physical damage vs 200 physical + 200 fire the only way the split-scaling weapon will do more damage is if the % reduction (negation) of the fire is significantly lower than the physical reduction.
For more details you can watch: th-cam.com/video/WTxOJdn3uhk/w-d-xo.html
Does Naga swing slower than Uchi? If so, then a slower attack speed + lower AR = much lower DPS than what AR alone would imply.
They share the same animation.
Fantastic work on these videos man, much appreciated. It's probably just a personal opinion but I feel like your voice could use a bit more intonation variation. On the other hand it is kinda soothing. Either way don't take this as a negative, your work is amazing either way!
The Meteoric Ore Blade is actually quite good for PvE:
1. Gravitas is actually REALLY GOOD in PvE, it can stagger Claymen enemies (interrupt their attacks) and it INSTANTLY grounds flying enemies, remember that this includes the Warhawks and Bats.
2. Meteoric Ore Blade deals extra damage to gravity enemies, this includes Astel, Onyx Lord, Alabaster Lords and the Fallingstar Beasts.
2 handed Nagakiba and Seppuko is my main weapon.. Extremely powerful and super long range..
RIP 😞
serpentbone should at least allow ash of war selection and do deadly poison buildup
It didn’t seem clear that fire would out perform quality, keen or heavy. Being able to buff your weapon should factor in as well.
Bit confused too since split damage seemed to be worse than single damage as it checks against two defenders
:S
Refer to my damage calculation and split scaling video. Whether or not fire outperforms pure phys depends highly on defense (so your level and your enemy's matters a lot). th-cam.com/video/WTxOJdn3uhk/w-d-xo.html
Don't forget that you can buff flame as well, with Fire Grant Me Strength. Sure, you could say the same of fire applied with grease, but that's two buffs that only last a minute.
Can you cover swing speeds and include the wakizashi, making a dual wakizashi build and am testing speeds
Wakizashi: powerstanced light attack startup frames 15, 23 for first swing.
Daggers: 10, 17, 25 light attack start up frames for first 3 swings.
As you see here, by the 25th frame Wakizashi swung twice while Daggers swing 3 times. Daggers are a lot faster (they have the fastest moveset).
@@Chrightt thanks for the reply, I'm just gonna have to do my best to make the build work for my new land of reeds rp character, I really appreciate it and enjoy your content :)
not sure about this but i think occult affects the percentage of damage done when you bleed opponents
Hello, I'm pretty sure bleed damage is static (15% enemy's max HP + 100 damage or 200 damage if I recall correctly). You can check this with someone else using a 100% block weapon. Occult increases bleed build up (how many hits it takes to bleed the enemy - as you can see from the increased bleed number on your weapon) and not the bleed damage itself. I will do a double check on this when I check for frostbite too.
We’re on the same page with serpentbone blade. Also, the r2 not stepping forward like double slash is a detriment to usability.
It's so sad cuz this blade is gorgeous
Nah the r2 not stepping forward allows you to mixup, the mixup potential comes from the second R2 looking almost identical to the start up of double slash, so you can set up little 50/50's where they have to guess which attack you're doing. You can chain r2>double slash>r2>r2>double slash etc for as long as you have stam and it's very hard to tell which move is coming next.
Also if you r2 into double slash you can proc the poison in one combo sometimes, and they only avoid the buildup by rolling out of range. Serpentbone's deadly poison proc is way better than regular poison btw, it's basically scarlet rot in terms of dps. It's a very good weapon.
here as a serpentbone blade lover