I own a 2G DSM, and have owned 2 turbo cars and one NA car and will tell anyone who may be on the fence about it, these cars CAN BE RELIABLE even the turbo cars, you just HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT! If you neglect it, it’ll neglect you, take your time and love the car and it will return the same energy.
So I bought a race project in the july of 2010 finally got it rebuilt and running in 2022 it had 18 different wiring problems me and my buddy fixed all problems within 3 months but my 86 ford on the other hand 3 years and 4 shops still has an alternator charging problem. The dsm community is the most knowledgeable forums amd support of any car on the planet.
I don't know about that. Mine was a 97 stick. I threw it through a lot. My dad rebuilt the engine even. Yet later i learned vehicle electronics. Because i got sound gear robbed all the time. Yes its super casual when the peddle mushes to nothing in 90 mph Dallas rush hour traffic. Im a great driver, that should have caused a crash.
"it will not love you until it feels you have earned it". Correct lol After spending years fixing, building, then fixing my 2G again, I can say that once you make it to the point where you can drive the car every day without issues, you'll realize how much fun these cars are. Great vid!
@@streavel7 oh you misunderstood, I already have one I just want a vid on it 😂😂. You're definitely right, handles like a gokart and adding bolt ons aren't too complicated, and I've worked on subies and bmws. Fun ass car, just needs mods to get it dialed in!
@@streavel7putting an aftermarket rear motor mount pretty much eliminates all wheel hop. Stock still wheel hops every so often but definitely less than most fwd cars I’ve driven. I’m also only pushing like 360 torque on my st stock turbo tuned on e30, hp hovering around 270-275. Waiting for funds to big turbo 😂
Um at least the SVT versions were track champions, they hit 160mph easy. My cousin had one as a work rental car. He wore a bicicyle helmet and acted stupid to mess with people. All 3 cylinders on blast. haha
I purchased my 2g Eclipse spyder in summer 2000 for 1600. I was in a bad motorcycle accident summer 2022, and my car sat in limbo from summer 2001 til last week when I finally was healed up enough to try and drive again. Before the wreck, I had just had the timing belt, oil and spark plugs changed, new tires alignment and tie rods, clutch, whole ac compressor changed, and I was shocked to see all I need was a new battery to get my girl restarted. And she did on the first crank! Been driving her around looking for any problems, and for being sat for over 3 years, I’m amazed!
I will never give up on my 2g eclipse. But bro was sooooo right, " there are only two ways to build these cars, 300whp street car or 900whpo drag monster" so true
"It will not love you until you have earned it" could not be more true. I own a 1g eagle talon tsi awd, and it is the best and worst decision I've made😂😂
This is about right. I own a 2g dsm since 2018 and i feel like i aged 12 years. Rust, blown headgasket 3 times, rodnock 2 times, no parts anywhere (eu) , pain in the ass, you should buy one too, will be great trust me
Yeah, parts here in eu is hard to find :/ luckily I managed to get a 95% rust free gst back in 2020. Tho as stated in the video. Electric is the main problem sadly. And annoying to deal with.
I’ve owned a 99 RS for like 15 years my bro bought it new back in 98 at the dealer. I’ve only tinted it, sound system, bought higher trim 5 spoke oem rims, and sitting low on Tein coilovers. I recently also bought a 97 Eclipse GST Spyder all oem with 54k miles. Maybe one day I’ll get the elusive all wheel drive GSX. Eclipse 2g is personally my favorite car. I don’t care that it’s not the best or fastest.
My dads pickup when i was little. He had to trade in his chevelle bc of me. How the Datsun pickup was safer? It probably wasn't. I grew up to have lead foot disease. We got to get to 2nd grade in 3 minutes. Get your helmet. Edit it was a motorcycle. I hate them to this day.
I’m 19, sold my first one after throwing rod, that friend has now fixed it and drives it like a maniac. Looking into buying a cleaner one as we speak. (Found one with 50k miles from dealer)
These are definitely gearhead cars, not just mechanically but you need to be able to do the electronics side too. Getting datalogging set up right away is important Thermal R&D exhaust is the goat if you can get one, most catbacks are 2.5" flanged to bolt up to the stock cat so need to be modified for a full 3" OEM crank pulleys separate at ~100k and a Fluidampr upgrade gives you a smooth clutch feel and easy to install
You do realize that 4g64 and 4g63t parts are interchangeable so alot of people use the 4g64 block for higher displacement with 4g63t for everything else and its works
I have a 2.5L Ford Fusion and everytime I see parts it’s for the 2.0 or 1.6 I need help so whenever if you get the chance to do a video on ford fusions I and the fusion family would appreciate it because for performance I have no clue
Man, the gsx is my absolute dream car. I've got a 4g eclipse and it's my first actual "project car." I absolutely love, and I've learned a lot about doing things to it. I really don't know much about the engine mechanics or any of that tho, soooo I'm terrified of buying a 2g and not being able to do anything with it haha.
I've recently bought myself a 97 gsx fully stock and it'd amazing but with almost 8 dsm. I recommend to never go over 400hp and never buy cheap parts that is how problems start but other then that I just wouldn't get someone else's project car
@robertobadillo8575 yeah that's the hard part. I don't want someone else's project car. It's hard to find a decent gsx that someone hasn't already fucked up.
Bruv made me feel unique wit tht line if you still modifying one in 23 you’re automatically better then everyone lol I’ve a got a 420A the only thing you don’t want natty
I was lucky enough to get a COMPLETELY stock gs for $650, it has a transmission issue, and im going to do all the basic maintenance before any mods. I know the 420shit isnt the best engine, but i herd theres somewhat of a decent community for it
Besides regular maintenance advice, too much torque will break the transmission. Go for quality parts. If you’re skeptical about the state of the motor, just pull it and rebuild it all. Do everything
They even have decent builds for an 420a. The neon engine isn't bad (you can add a turbo) but if you want to build a fresh engine you can get a 2.4l from a stratus/cirrus and combine it with the stock crank and pistons from an srt4.... It's a lot simpler to just buy an srt4 neon at that point though.
2:36 I have a 3g eclipse with a 7 bolt (later model) 4g64 and they are decent it’s just the cylinder head and sometimes lack of piston oil squirters from factory that suck. They are kind of a “big block” 4g63. You can make a “stroker” 4g63 with a 4g64 crankshaft for more torque, you can put a 4g63 crankshaft in a 4g64 “de-stroking” it and with a modified dohc head it will out rev most 4g63s all day
I just bought my 97 Eclipse GS Spyder and I was looking at the coilovers and was wondering if the BR Series Coilover - 95-99 Eclipse FWD/AWD would also work for the Spyder convertible. I assume it would but I’d like to be sure so I don’t spend over $1,000 on the wrong one
If yall buy one running, make sure they have the receipts with the car. Also make sure you know or have someone that knows how to perform basic maintenance. If the tailpipe id smoking burning oil something needs to be rebuilt. Do NOT bite off more than you can chew. Too much torque and your transmission is toast. Good luck. My gsx is about to come out of hibernation and I’m excited.
I can agree cause I bought a eclipse gsx for 2300 6 years ago and im still building it but since im a mechanic it has been alot easier it fix for me but the previous owner did touch alot of electrical wires and did do a lot of sketchy things but luckily i have the knowledge to fix all of these problems all it take is time 😂😂😂
im new to cars always loved them but mechanically speaking i cant do other than tires and oil, got a 1999 gsx and trying slowly to learn but feels like i jumoed from a kids pool to the bermuda triangle
I came to watch because I owned 1 talon, 1 TSI, and 1 GSX back in the day. But all I can think about is when Alex went around asking people if they knew what DSM stoof for. 😢
Picked up a 99’ GS with the OZ rally package that came out that year. Been working on it for a solid year just fixing it up and still it’s barely roadworthy
I’m surprised no mention of the lack of transmission options if you’re making over 500wtq. You’re either getting an extremely basic rebuild for 5k that won’t last long, or forced to dish out 12k for a dog box.
I feel spoiled with 7 2g turbo dsms, and 2 1g turbo dsms......Ironically tho even living in canada I have more completely rust free stock examples in mint shape then beat to death ones. I dont know where you go the prices from tho, I haven't paid more then 2k for a dsm ever. Everything else is spot on tho.
Yeah pretty spot on , “It’ll love you once it sees you’ve earned it “😂 yeah just beware because a lot of very low iq people Touch on these and mess up the wiring to literally everything . Always check all the wiring when buying one , but most importantly check the timing belt . Only two bolts I believe, because those valves will get smacked if that belt rips . Always check for leaks and if everything checks out you’re good for now 🤣
96 GSX 6BOLT SWAP. Stopped driving it. Cali smog laws. Too much headache having these cars in Cali. Always getting pulled over. Car is now in hibernation in garage
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I own a 2G DSM, and have owned 2 turbo cars and one NA car and will tell anyone who may be on the fence about it, these cars CAN BE RELIABLE even the turbo cars, you just HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT! If you neglect it, it’ll neglect you, take your time and love the car and it will return the same energy.
So I bought a race project in the july of 2010 finally got it rebuilt and running in 2022 it had 18 different wiring problems me and my buddy fixed all problems within 3 months but my 86 ford on the other hand 3 years and 4 shops still has an alternator charging problem. The dsm community is the most knowledgeable forums amd support of any car on the planet.
I don't know about that. Mine was a 97 stick. I threw it through a lot. My dad rebuilt the engine even. Yet later i learned vehicle electronics. Because i got sound gear robbed all the time. Yes its super casual when the peddle mushes to nothing in 90 mph Dallas rush hour traffic. Im a great driver, that should have caused a crash.
No mention of strut tower rust?! That’s the true killer of the 2nd gen.
where i live, people mod and fix up strut towers
"it will not love you until it feels you have earned it". Correct lol After spending years fixing, building, then fixing my 2G again, I can say that once you make it to the point where you can drive the car every day without issues, you'll realize how much fun these cars are. Great vid!
I will forever ask for a episode of this on the Focus ST. No witty comments since I'm sleep deprived, I just want one lol
I think he hates that car lol 😂 I’ve ask for it too
Get one. Handles great, can get a solid 400whp on stock block, and not much wheel hop. Also sounds unique with a catless exhaust, intake, and bov.
@@streavel7 oh you misunderstood, I already have one I just want a vid on it 😂😂.
You're definitely right, handles like a gokart and adding bolt ons aren't too complicated, and I've worked on subies and bmws. Fun ass car, just needs mods to get it dialed in!
@@streavel7putting an aftermarket rear motor mount pretty much eliminates all wheel hop. Stock still wheel hops every so often but definitely less than most fwd cars I’ve driven. I’m also only pushing like 360 torque on my st stock turbo tuned on e30, hp hovering around 270-275. Waiting for funds to big turbo 😂
Um at least the SVT versions were track champions, they hit 160mph easy. My cousin had one as a work rental car. He wore a bicicyle helmet and acted stupid to mess with people. All 3 cylinders on blast. haha
I love seeing a second gen in the wild, most of them aren’t super clean anymore though
Don't worry, I got one that isn't riced out 😂
Same 😂
Hopefully I don't rice mine out😢
Not many cars if any, built these days are AWD, Manual, and turbo...this trifecta is the definition of happiness.
I purchased my 2g Eclipse spyder in summer 2000 for 1600. I was in a bad motorcycle accident summer 2022, and my car sat in limbo from summer 2001 til last week when I finally was healed up enough to try and drive again. Before the wreck, I had just had the timing belt, oil and spark plugs changed, new tires alignment and tie rods, clutch, whole ac compressor changed, and I was shocked to see all I need was a new battery to get my girl restarted. And she did on the first crank! Been driving her around looking for any problems, and for being sat for over 3 years, I’m amazed!
I will never give up on my 2g eclipse. But bro was sooooo right, " there are only two ways to build these cars, 300whp street car or 900whpo drag monster" so true
"It will not love you until you have earned it" could not be more true. I own a 1g eagle talon tsi awd, and it is the best and worst decision I've made😂😂
This is about right. I own a 2g dsm since 2018 and i feel like i aged 12 years. Rust, blown headgasket 3 times, rodnock 2 times, no parts anywhere (eu) , pain in the ass, you should buy one too, will be great trust me
Yeah, parts here in eu is hard to find :/ luckily I managed to get a 95% rust free gst back in 2020. Tho as stated in the video. Electric is the main problem sadly. And annoying to deal with.
Sounds like a b5s4 story minus the rust
I’ve owned a 99 RS for like 15 years my bro bought it new back in 98 at the dealer. I’ve only tinted it, sound system, bought higher trim 5 spoke oem rims, and sitting low on Tein coilovers. I recently also bought a 97 Eclipse GST Spyder all oem with 54k miles. Maybe one day I’ll get the elusive all wheel drive GSX. Eclipse 2g is personally my favorite car. I don’t care that it’s not the best or fastest.
Loving my 97 GSX for almost 20 years now.
Datsun tailgate goes hard af.
Truly does. Makes me smile everytime I see it. 😅
My dads pickup when i was little. He had to trade in his chevelle bc of me. How the Datsun pickup was safer? It probably wasn't. I grew up to have lead foot disease. We got to get to 2nd grade in 3 minutes. Get your helmet. Edit it was a motorcycle. I hate them to this day.
I’m 19, sold my first one after throwing rod, that friend has now fixed it and drives it like a maniac. Looking into buying a cleaner one as we speak. (Found one with 50k miles from dealer)
3S owner and the 6g72tt makes me want to bite a bullet but when it was running, I had nothing but smiles on my face.
I’ve waited so long for this video thank you much!!
These are definitely gearhead cars, not just mechanically but you need to be able to do the electronics side too. Getting datalogging set up right away is important
Thermal R&D exhaust is the goat if you can get one, most catbacks are 2.5" flanged to bolt up to the stock cat so need to be modified for a full 3"
OEM crank pulleys separate at ~100k and a Fluidampr upgrade gives you a smooth clutch feel and easy to install
I can't believe my review made it in a video, my fiancee and I both went that was me! Love you guys!
You do realize that 4g64 and 4g63t parts are interchangeable so alot of people use the 4g64 block for higher displacement with 4g63t for everything else and its works
1G never gets any love and it’s arguably a better car
First DSM to win consistently at Flatlands bklyn in 97 was driven by my man Bert. Turbo mag cover car.1st DSM into the 10s. RIP. Bert
Back in my day
I have a 2g gsx and also a non turbo one, both stock, and this video was pretty spot on
Getting a 97 eclipse gs in about a week im so excited
1g talon awd and evo x here. mitsubishi is king.
Thank you for this lol my 97 GST is coming out the shop in a couple of months. I will not be opening up pandoras box until this thing is CLEAN
I have a 2.5L Ford Fusion and everytime I see parts it’s for the 2.0 or 1.6 I need help so whenever if you get the chance to do a video on ford fusions I and the fusion family would appreciate it because for performance I have no clue
I really want to get another 2g gsx. I used to have one and it was a fun car.
Man, the gsx is my absolute dream car. I've got a 4g eclipse and it's my first actual "project car." I absolutely love, and I've learned a lot about doing things to it. I really don't know much about the engine mechanics or any of that tho, soooo I'm terrified of buying a 2g and not being able to do anything with it haha.
I've recently bought myself a 97 gsx fully stock and it'd amazing but with almost 8 dsm. I recommend to never go over 400hp and never buy cheap parts that is how problems start but other then that I just wouldn't get someone else's project car
@robertobadillo8575 yeah that's the hard part. I don't want someone else's project car. It's hard to find a decent gsx that someone hasn't already fucked up.
I have a 98 GST!
Bruv made me feel unique wit tht line if you still modifying one in 23 you’re automatically better then everyone lol I’ve a got a 420A the only thing you don’t want natty
😂 15yrs with my 2g... I absolutely love this car. Dude that intro had me dying!
Yes, please remove your bov dump tube for more airflow. Greatest mod for increasing airflow, 10/10👌
😮💨 3rd gen never ever ever gets love. It’s all good; I’ll do it myself.
Coming by one of these beautiful vehicles is like coming by a unicorn in the forest.. slim to zero probability.
Owned 4 of them
I'm happy to see my dsms getting some love on videos people don't even know lol
1998 eagle talon tsi awd owner. Love the car.
Rarest of the birds other then the concept cars, take care of her! From another 98 talon awd owner.
that's amazing. one rare car, i believe production numbers were only in the thousands... i got a 95 tsi awd
@@ashtonb3948 I believe 4308 were made.
I was lucky enough to get a COMPLETELY stock gs for $650, it has a transmission issue, and im going to do all the basic maintenance before any mods.
I know the 420shit isnt the best engine, but i herd theres somewhat of a decent community for it
Hell yea thanks for the video! Keep up the great work alex. From wcec to martiniworks, you keep the motivation flowing!
This has always been my dream tuner car and I to hope to learn everything I need to know before I find a 97-99 GSX
Watch out for strut tower rust and you’ll be good haha.
Besides regular maintenance advice, too much torque will break the transmission. Go for quality parts. If you’re skeptical about the state of the motor, just pull it and rebuild it all. Do everything
Bad decisions make good stories, let’s go!
8:40 that’s me rn at 23 🤣
Do a how to modify a pontiac g8 video! Love the videos you guys are doing
They even have decent builds for an 420a. The neon engine isn't bad (you can add a turbo) but if you want to build a fresh engine you can get a 2.4l from a stratus/cirrus and combine it with the stock crank and pistons from an srt4.... It's a lot simpler to just buy an srt4 neon at that point though.
Long love and long live the 2 G !!! Fun video👍 super fun cars!
I’m not gonna lie.. I was like wait.. is he gonna share footage from my channel😂
2:36 I have a 3g eclipse with a 7 bolt (later model) 4g64 and they are decent it’s just the cylinder head and sometimes lack of piston oil squirters from factory that suck. They are kind of a “big block” 4g63. You can make a “stroker” 4g63 with a 4g64 crankshaft for more torque, you can put a 4g63 crankshaft in a 4g64 “de-stroking” it and with a modified dohc head it will out rev most 4g63s all day
Boost that thang
Bro I'm only 40 and I'm married with a full beard 😂😂😂
Only 40? Bro you middle age, go ahead and drop the only.
@@kidistight 🤣🤣🤣
This was my first car, I'm still debating if I should pick up this or a 3000gt
I just bought my 97 Eclipse GS Spyder and I was looking at the coilovers and was wondering if the BR Series Coilover - 95-99 Eclipse FWD/AWD would also work for the Spyder convertible. I assume it would but I’d like to be sure so I don’t spend over $1,000 on the wrong one
I love this generation of eclipse
It's an old car and builds correctly. It will treats u right. Old man here
If yall buy one running, make sure they have the receipts with the car. Also make sure you know or have someone that knows how to perform basic maintenance. If the tailpipe id smoking burning oil something needs to be rebuilt.
Do NOT bite off more than you can chew. Too much torque and your transmission is toast.
Good luck. My gsx is about to come out of hibernation and I’m excited.
I can agree cause I bought a eclipse gsx for 2300 6 years ago and im still building it but since im a mechanic it has been alot easier it fix for me but the previous owner did touch alot of electrical wires and did do a lot of sketchy things but luckily i have the knowledge to fix all of these problems all it take is time 😂😂😂
Man if we don’t get the full 3G Acura TL video soon ima lose it.
Fox body Mustang next I know you focus on tuners but I think the fox would be cool
im new to cars always loved them but mechanically speaking i cant do other than tires and oil, got a 1999 gsx and trying slowly to learn but feels like i jumoed from a kids pool to the bermuda triangle
Has anyone ever tried swapping a 4B11 into a 2nd gen? Either swapping out the 420a or 4G63
That intro was sick!
Love the need for speed reference
Can you do a video on 3G mods? I recently picked up an 04 I’m building in my apartment parking lot😂😂
I came to watch because I owned 1 talon, 1 TSI, and 1 GSX back in the day. But all I can think about is when Alex went around asking people if they knew what DSM stoof for. 😢
3 years with my eclipse gst 300 hp never let me down still roast its tires to 80 in the rain
Picked up a 99’ GS with the OZ rally package that came out that year. Been working on it for a solid year just fixing it up and still it’s barely roadworthy
I might post mine and it's transformation lol, the one with an insane amount of owners, posted in the guess the car vid a few years ago, i think
I feel like the GSX is the LanEVO coupe the world deserved
i have a 2g gs that was a rats nest. actually. she was up and running but rn im redoing the fuel system
No mention of the 1g or the eagle talon though huh
Well I have spyder 2.4 L I'm look to spend some money on this one no rust red Need to repaint and I will flay whit it
Til this day I dream of owning a gsx
Great vid!
Can you do SW20 MR2?
I’m surprised no mention of the lack of transmission options if you’re making over 500wtq. You’re either getting an extremely basic rebuild for 5k that won’t last long, or forced to dish out 12k for a dog box.
Does this also apply to the crossover suv
Ive got a 2009 eclipse that I am doing an awd build
could you do the mirage like the 90s one
I got a gs turbo an love it gst is next then gsx
Which motor u recoment for me turbo 2.0 L
i miss my eclipse
I feel spoiled with 7 2g turbo dsms, and 2 1g turbo dsms......Ironically tho even living in canada I have more completely rust free stock examples in mint shape then beat to death ones. I dont know where you go the prices from tho, I haven't paid more then 2k for a dsm ever. Everything else is spot on tho.
Just curious, isn’t these eclipse fwd? I can’t really find any rwd of them!!
Up until 2000 they had the option for AWD or FWD only
@2:07 I think the dodge Avenger as well.
Can you do a ISF next
As a 42 year old who’s owned 2 of these, I feel attacked lol
Hilarious when you say if you want to modify this car and say just wheels and tires 😂
Yeah pretty spot on , “It’ll love you once it sees you’ve earned it “😂 yeah just beware because a lot of very low iq people Touch on these and mess up the wiring to literally everything . Always check all the wiring when buying one , but most importantly check the timing belt . Only two bolts I believe, because those valves will get smacked if that belt rips . Always check for leaks and if everything checks out you’re good for now 🤣
Now do one on the 3g 1g and 4g
96 GSX 6BOLT SWAP. Stopped driving it. Cali smog laws. Too much headache having these cars in Cali. Always getting pulled over. Car is now in hibernation in garage
Day 1 - Focus RS 🎉
1998 Eagle Talon TSi was the best
Is it good for a first car??
To learn how to do anything performance or maintenance on yes, but as a turn key DD stay the hell away from it
My first car was a95 talon and my dads was a 95 eclipse but then I bought a 3000gt 😂
How bout the normal 96?
95' turbo charged 420a here.
Can you do a Kia Stinger?🙏🏿😭
Day 6
How to Modify a Kei Truck
Used to want this car so bad sadly prob one of the car I think I’ll never get
brother I am sooooo lost all this is like someone speaking another language 😂this how I KNOW I'm not a car guy
I wanna echo the request(s) for an episode on the focus st
I need a build on a wrx VB :")
2:20 "eclipse got to cheat off the evo's homework", eclipse, talon, and laser came first so that's wrong
BMW E36 Next? 👀