I'm DUMPING Canon... for Nikon or Sony?

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    FINALLY! I've tested the R5, A1, and Z9 in landscapes, travel, portraits, and wildlife and I'm finally ready to make my choice.
    Tony and I review the results of each test, the pros and cons of each camera, answer the questions you've had in the comments, and I announce my final choice.
    PART 1 "DUMPING MY CANON R5": • Dumping my Canon R5? (...
    PART 2 "TRAVEL & LANDSCAPE": • Nikon Z9 vs Sony a1 / ...
    PART 3 "Portraits" • BEST Portrait Camera: ...
    PART 4 "wildlife" • Ultimate WILDLIFE came...
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  • @Sooch900
    @Sooch900 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    I used to be a Nikon D850 diehard, but then I sold all my gear and switched to Sony. On your recommendations. I bought all their lenses. I opened up a credit card so I could afford it all. Then I saw you switched to Canon, so I sold all my Sony gear and went with Canon good thing I had more credit cards to buy all that gear. I used that and liked it but then I saw you got the Nikon Z9. I got nostalgic about Nikon again and switched back to Nikon. My wife and kids left me at this point but I didn’t care because now I have more money to fund my camera gear needs. I realized that I got 99% good shots on the Z9 but missing that 1% upset me so I switched back to Sony. Thanks to you guys I not only have 6 square space websites I also now know exactly which camera system is best for me. Thanks again.

    • @lifebysenses
      @lifebysenses ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I can't really tell if this is a satyrical comment, or not 😄 (hopefully it is)

    • @WoutervanTiel
      @WoutervanTiel ปีที่แล้ว +8

      spot on, I like your sense of humor.

    • @sayantansanyal2315
      @sayantansanyal2315 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I just cannot stop laughing 😃

    • @markcavaletti8432
      @markcavaletti8432 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      LOL! 6 Square space websites!!! Classic!!

    • @lewisjones4158
      @lewisjones4158 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂😢😢

  • @nicodimus2222
    @nicodimus2222 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I think I will be using the D850 until I die. There's nothing wrong with keeping the same gear if you're happy with the results.

    • @nategubbins8871
      @nategubbins8871 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Me too. If I had the disposable funds I would probably buy a second body to ensure longevity.

    • @WhittyPics
      @WhittyPics ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I plan on keeping my D850. I am just not ready to jump on the mirrorless band wagon. If I done video I may choose a mirrorless camera, but DSLRs are great for stills

    • @ArcanePath360
      @ArcanePath360 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel you. I have two Canon 6D bodies and a 1DXii. Might get a R7 some day but that low battery life.... arghhh. The camera world always takes 2 steps forward and 1 step back.

    • @DavidDowns61
      @DavidDowns61 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I loved my D850’s….incredible images….but I can get same quality images with better focusing options in the Z9. Oh, and the 20FPS is SICK…I’ve gotten images I NEVER would have gotten with the D850.

    • @nicodimus2222
      @nicodimus2222 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DavidDowns61 That only matters for fast action photography, though. Most genres of photography don't need 20fps, or even 5 fps.

  • @kenmaier6870
    @kenmaier6870 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great Video!! You obviously invested significant time. The test results encouraged me that my R5 is holding up well from a performance and cost perspective. Thanks again.

  • @billsherman6129
    @billsherman6129 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thoroughly appreciate all of the time and effort that went into the research for this video. Kudos to both of you! I lived in Westerly RI for a while and worked in New London so it's nice to see familiar locations during your various testing excursions.

  • @marcrjacobs
    @marcrjacobs ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice review guys, thanks! But, as a new owner of an A7R IV with 60 meg images, a vertical battery grip I could shoot amazing landscape and portrait in the Dominican Republic all day and night. Only carried one lenses, the 70-200 f4, as I don't need night or astro. This is the best camera I have ever owned. I love it, although I know it wasn't a favorite of yours.

  • @lightscameranettie
    @lightscameranettie ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Alright. I was prepared to be mad about this switch, because I'm a die hard Canon girl, but I do understand your reasons, and I think clearly you made the best choice for your specific needs. But as a non-professional, "enthusiast" level photographer, I just bought an R6 and am over the moon, so to each her own! :)

    • @Frontdesk99
      @Frontdesk99 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I am a professional photographer (with actual WORK as a photographer instead of sitting in front of a camera making YT videos pretending to be a photographer) and I can tell you the R5 and R6 are phenomenal cameras to do professional photography with. Just like many Sony models, Fuji models, hell even Pentax. It's not the gear. It's the person holding it. And these two are just holding it, selling it, buying something new again and nobody ever sees any actual work that they do, except some holiday snaps of birds and their daughter playing some sports. Mom&Pop photography. Don't take them too serious.

    • @andy70d35
      @andy70d35 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm like you die hard Canon, used Canon from film days then changed to 350D, 600D, then 6D then 70D. They just work, no need to change them, yes I would like to try the new R5 or R6, but the older cameras still get me the shots I want. The 6D main camera and the 70D for the wildlife extra reach.

    • @MrEcliptor
      @MrEcliptor ปีที่แล้ว

      I got the RP and the R6 and that’s all I plan to have for the foreseeable future. The R6 is such an amazing camera. N

  • @nubscrub
    @nubscrub ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally fine and valid to switch up according to your needs...whether because they've changed, or the equipment has (improved). Good comparison points

  • @nielmorley7405
    @nielmorley7405 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Went through the same exercise. Not easy because there are overlaps between the various choices in performance terms. So appreciate your frustration due to so many excellent options available. We are so fortunate today to have so many excellent imaging options. In the end I arrived at the same conclusion based on the A1 with current firmware and the range of excellent lenses. It simply gets the job done.

  • @tekguyphoto
    @tekguyphoto ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Still have my R6 since it was available instores. Almost 2 years love it for every day photography but for wildlife i switched to Sony A7IV and 200-600 zoom mostly for the reach and pixel count. Just bought the Sigma 24-70 Art for some grad and prom photos for the Sony. Nice combo but I still find the Canon much easier to use. I dont use my cameras every day sometimes weeks go by and with the Sony i struggle on settings on the fly where the Canon is easier. But thats just my case. Lets see what lenses Canon brings out in the next 6 months. Would love an R5 but thats also almost 2 years old and prices have not dropped.

    • @lewcehjitl3282
      @lewcehjitl3282 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hey I have the same combo on for my a7iv. Try the Rolan Pro Camo Sleeve for the 200-600 ads an extra layer of weather sealing. Also change your AF from Wide to center and Small it will improve the AF more since it always focuses on wires or straight lines over the birds unless you are close to them

  • @gregoryfricker9971
    @gregoryfricker9971 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The lens does interfere with subject tracking as the limits of focusing could be how small the steps of focus are as well as how fast it makes those steps which can affect the focus. Check out the R5 on the 200 1.8.

    • @daran0815
      @daran0815 ปีที่แล้ว

      In principle, yes. But. When you look closely at the video snippets where it looses tracking, the tracking is lost before the focus moves off. Were this due to the lens being too slow, one would expect it to keep tracking till it drifts too far out of focus. Also this apparently happens even when the bird is flying side-wise, so lens motor speed should not matter all that much.

  • @DaveMuller
    @DaveMuller ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep them coming. I'm running a 6D and 5DsR and even though I plan to use them until I can no longer buy parts and lenses, I still enjoy keeping up to date on the new cameras.

  • @tonyfallon9059
    @tonyfallon9059 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I gave the Z9 a good try out for 6 months. Its very very good and probably the best all-round FF mirrorless right now but I've gone with the A1 in the end simply because I major on BIFs. It has the edge in those conditions that challenge AF the most. Small margins but makes a big difference when you shoot day in day out in the most challenging conditions for BIFs.

  • @richardpittman1078
    @richardpittman1078 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You made a good choice ! I made The switch a month ago from Canon to Sony because I’m doing more wildlife Photos. I live in western North Carolina so I have full access of the great Smoky Mountains national Park.
    It’s been over 30 years when I pickup my first camera a Pentax k1000 how times change.

    • @cruzinthru8285
      @cruzinthru8285 ปีที่แล้ว

      Youngster... lol When I was Teaching Photography at a nearby Community College in early 1980's, I pointed my Students toward the Pentax K1000.
      At the Time, it was the most Bang for the Buck "Manual" 35mm Film Camera out there. I also Filed the Negative Holders for our Enlargers,
      so that All of the Photos Printed in the Lab, Showed the Sprocket Holes in the Film... So that Everything was Printed Full Frame, and Not a Cropped Image.
      Crop in the Camera, and NOT in the Darkroom I would tell them... I'm sure they still remember that today.
      After lots of "Trial and Error"... I also Settled on Sony for Mirrorless Digital. ... Can't Afford an A-1 yet, maybe soon a Used one. :>)

  • @rmclark339
    @rmclark339 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I bought the A1 too. I already had Sony glass so the decision was easy but even if I thought about changing I don't know if I could have found a Z9. They are still not in stock at BH. When I was able to hold one a couple of weeks ago (from a friend that owns a camera store) I realized it would not have worked for me any way, it's just too big. I'm a senior (late 60's) wildlife photographer and the A1 is a perfect size and if I want to add a grip, I can do that. With the Z9 it's forced on you. I get it, but it's not for me.

    • @xr3217
      @xr3217 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sony a1 is number 1.
      Don't forget the people who use a gimbal for videos. They are already cumbersome enough you don't need a z9 brick on top of that. Plus you'd pay for a larger gimbal then a cage for the screen and mike. Goodluck.
      But that may not be your case tho.

    • @GoneToHelenBach
      @GoneToHelenBach ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xr3217 "A Z9 brick" They're actually quite small and lightweight for a proper pro camera. One of the things that puts me off mirrorless cameras is the uncomfortably small size, which also results in the controls being fiddly to access, not to mention the lack of exterior controls, once again due to them being too small to accommodate all the controls that a nice DSLR has.
      The Z9 is the only mirrorless I could possibly be interested in owning and it's sad that I would have to spend a huge amount of money just to have a mirrorless Nikon that is comfortable and ergonomic to use.

  • @stuartschaffner9744
    @stuartschaffner9744 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked this review. It's clear that we have at least three valid contenders here, which is a milestone after the white-knuckle ride through the mirrorless transition. I would argue that one key personal question is whether you want to hold a camera away from your eye and look at an unshielded screen, put the camera on a tripod, or hold it up to your eye. That seems to be the most important differentiator. I am very much an EVF user, so the A1 fits my style of use the best.
    Another differentiator is how much practice you want to commit to when switching to a new camera. EVF use right now means usually that you have to program a lot of buttons and dials and then learn to use them all by feel. This takes time, just like it would take time to learn how to play, say, a guitar without having to look at the frets. For me, I would expect that anyway. For others, it might be a deal breaker.
    Hopefully, we are getting back to the days when you chose a camera system for the lenses, rather than the camera bodies. I can't say enough about the newer Sony GM primes. I hope (and expect) that other brands are also adopting whatever manufacturing special sauce Sony has been using on these new lenses. For me, it has been a game changer, especially with the 135mm f/1.8 GM. There was a particular very high contrast forest scene that I have been trying to photograph for over 50 years, only to fail time after time. Older lenses always filled the darkest areas with flare that destroyed the colors and textures. With the 135mm on an A1, there it was, finally recorded.

  • @andrewozete2286
    @andrewozete2286 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Memory card cost?
    As usual, you guys did a great job. I appreciate Tony’s calling out the smaller size of the CFexpress type a card. I don’t think he mentioned, though how much more they cost. If you’re going to switch to an A1, they would be also a significant additional investment in the Memory cards. It looks like it would be well more than double the costs for type B.

    • @LoriGraceAz
      @LoriGraceAz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I disagree with the mention of the CFExpress A cards because, even though I own two CF-A cards for my a1 and a7SIII, I rarely need them. In fact, the codec is so good for 8K video on the a1 that I just need to use the fastest SD cards there are (I forget the rating), so I really don't even need CF A

    • @serena-yu
      @serena-yu ปีที่แล้ว

      And always smaller in capacity, sometimes slower. Type A cards above 160G are just not available.

  • @RobDeHaven
    @RobDeHaven ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I watched this series hoping to get some resolution to my next camera purchase. I sold all my previous gear, all Canon glass and a D60 &80 bodies about a year ago. I've been using my iPhone exclusively but it lacks depth of focus and reach for a lot of shots. That being said, always having my camera in my pocket makes it a lot more likely I at least get a picture just not one I'm always proud of in the end. When I started my photography journey nearly 10 years ago, I was excited about the gear, but so far the changeover to mirrorless from the Canon and Sony just have me feeling meh. Chelsea (and Tony) thanks for putting in the work to create these reviews, I know it is a labor of love sometimes.

    • @TonyAndChelsea
      @TonyAndChelsea  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thank you, Rob. If you want something that's easy to carry you might like a Sony A7c or a little Fuji X100v (or f) like I use.

    • @tvm2209
      @tvm2209 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TonyAndChelsea Have been waiting patiently for months to find a new silver x100v in stock somewhere at MSRP :( May just pull the trigger on a silver X-Pro3 instead.

    • @onlysublime
      @onlysublime ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, the camera with you is the best camera. And yes, I'm one of those guys that takes a camera everywhere. My R5, that is. I have it on the passenger seat when I'm driving. I take it to restaurants. It's the best camera that you can hand to a waiter who has that bewildered look at how to use it. And you just say, "tap the screen just like a smartphone" and the waiter comes away amazed at how easy it was. Any camera that gets you out there shooting is the best camera. I've always wanted to take a good camera to a sports arena, but most places don't let professional cameras in or have very strict restrictions. Well, Dodgers Stadium finally loosened up and said you could bring in a 6" lens. Well, 6 inches usually only gets you up to an 85 mm. But because of how compact the Canon RF 70-200 2.8 is (it's 5.75 inches), you can get it by security! And then once you're in there, you can extend it to 200 mm bliss! Or if 2.8 is too rich for your blood and you're happy with the 70-200 4.0, that's only 4.7 inches long! Heck, Canon has a bunch of short lenses now. Heck, the 100-400 is only 6.5 inches long! If the security guy doesn't measure it, you might be able to bring it into Dodgers Stadium. 400mm at a baseball game!

    • @derbagger22
      @derbagger22 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@onlysublime and put it on an R7 or R10!

  • @MrCplgumby
    @MrCplgumby ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Entertaining review, thank you for that! Just as an FYI, although you may already know, the Fujifilm X-T4 has the "Pre-shot" feature which is similar to the Nikon Z9 mentioned feature. I think it will become a standard feature on all brands future cameras.

  • @armandot9137
    @armandot9137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you guys see much of a difference between the Z9 120 fps vs just shooting 4K 120 in terms of images quality, besides the HD aspect ratio crop? I see the 12MP jpg as a niche application and for such does the difference between the two options really make it a feature worth talking about? To me the Pre-capture is the most relevant feature the Z9 is offering although jpg is limiting. I would have preferred just a few frames in Raw over 1 second in jpg or choosing between the two.

  • @ForrestWest
    @ForrestWest ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For birds and wildlife I'll take the R7 with 30 frames per second electronic shutter, pre-capture feature with raw files, in camera focus stacking and 32.5mp for cropping. All at about 1/3 the cost or less of the flagship cameras. I can add an EF 500mm F4 and still be at about the cost of the A1 or Z9 with all of the best features from them that I need the most and not the extra expense of cf cards and larger files.

    • @cruzinthru8285
      @cruzinthru8285 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whatever Floats your Boat... If making Fake Photos with "Spay and Pray" 30fps shooting, I wonder why not shoot Video, and just take the Frame you like?
      Then you shoot RAW, so you can Adjust the Crap out of the Crap you shot... If That makes you "Feel Good Inside", its Great that you are having Fun.
      I do not like to Lie to people who View my Photos... so I do Nothing to them at all. WYSIWYG ... What you see is what you get, right out of the Camera.
      If I have to go Back to the Same Place, and shoot the Same Birds 100 times to get what I am looking for. At least it is a "Rare Moment" caught in a Photo,
      and Not a Photo, that is made to look like a "Rare Moment". ... But that is "ME" ... as I do not Lie to people in my Daily Life, and for sure won't in my Photos.
      If what you do makes You Happy... that IS all that matters.
      I have been working with Digital Images, in the way of Scanned Film, 4800 DPI since 1988, so I know what can be done to Any Digital Image,
      and Know when something is being Faked. Especially with Today's Software, there is No Limit as to what can be done to ANY Digital Image.
      I prefer "Reality" over "Imaginary Fantasy" ... At some point, people have to decide if they are a "Photographer" or a "Graphic Artist".
      Either Field is Fine with me, but don't tell me a Work of "Graphic Art" is a "Photograph"... Nobody likes being Lied to.

    • @nikoolix
      @nikoolix ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cruzinthru8285 What an elitist mindset. I'm surprised you haven't gone back to painting already.

    • @alansach8437
      @alansach8437 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cruzinthru8285 There are definitely a lot of "spray and pray" people out there! I have watched them continually blast away when an animal was clearly walking away from them! But it is equally true that a fast frame rate is absolutely necessary to catch that special, unique action shot. A very good professional photographer I know once told me, "If you saw it happen (in an action sequence) you probably missed it!" The same is true in sports photography. No one, NO ONE, is fast enough to hit the button at the exact, perfect fraction of a second. It's impossible. The only way to get that perfectly timed shot is a fast shutter rate. When the action starts you hold down the button. Even with a fast shutter you will often see images right before and right after what would have been the perfect shot! Without it, forget it! Shooting action is all about that perfect moment. Without fast fps, you aren't going to get it.
      As for the rest, unless you are a photojournalist, or possibly an ad photographer, real estate, shooting for a science journal etc...something like that, photography has ALWAYS been more than documentation. It is an art. Who are you to tell fellow artists what is or isn't "acceptable "? Ansil Adams, one of the greatest landscape photographers of all time, carefully selected films, used filters, spent hours in the darkroom using every tool at his disposal, to create the piece of art that he was after. So much so that he wouldn't allow others to print his work. It wasn't "done" until he said it was! I am absolutely certain that he would embrace modern technology and use all of its tools. As long as you aren't deceiving anyone, like adding things into your photography that weren't there, without copping to it, it's your art. No one tells a painter that they can't make a sunset more vibrant than it was!! Why do people like you want to make photography so boring? "Once you click the shutter, you are done!" Malarkey! It has never been that way!

    • @cruzinthru8285
      @cruzinthru8285 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alansach8437 - In my Own Work as a Pro for over 30 years, a Always did ALL of my own Dark Room Work, because I couldn't Trust a Lab to not Lose or Damage my Film, and end up costing me $50,000.00 for the tab for a Location Fashion Shoot, on the Beaches of Bali...
      Instead, I was one of he Few Photographers on the Planet who Traveled with a Portable Darkroom, and Provided the Client 11x14" Color Prints, made in my Hotel Room, so they can See "yesterdays shoot" at 9:00 AM with Coffee on the Veranda.
      THIS way, if Something needed to be Changed, like a Different Model for an Outfit, this isn't something they Discovered Two Weeks After we Returned form Bali.
      BUT... Unlike Ansel Adams, I Print WYSIWYG... No Burning, Dodging, Filters or other "Trickery" done in the Dark Room.
      My Work is SO Consistent, that I can Depend on not having to Change Enlarger Color Settings, ans I shot Only Slide Film, printed in Ilford Cibachrome...
      If you are NOT a Good Enough Photographer to do the Same, then HOW can you call yourself a Pro?
      The "Spay and Pray" biz, having to do with Sports and Wildlife is For Sure a Big Improvement. Yet Another thing making life So Easy any 15 year old Kid can do it, so I have to wonder why People Marvel over a Shot that caught that "Last Second", when there were 30 shots before it, and another 30 after it... May as well take a Frame from a Video.
      Yet Somehow, back before people who had a Camera that could shoot 30 FPS, some "Real Photographer" were able to catch those Amazing Last Second Shots, in both Sports and Wildlife... just go to a Library and look at an Old Copy of "National Geographic", and you will see what I mean.
      I am not even talking about "Sports" or "Wildlife" when it comes to "Spray and Pray"... I am talking about people doing Portraits or even Fashion Photography.
      Have a look at many of the Northrup videos here and you will see it, as well as many others doing the same.... as well as Stacking in Photoshop to Improve Sharpness etc.
      I watched a Video with One Famous NYC Photographer, who charges $3000.00 to "Common People" who pay their own eay to NYC, so they can follow this guy around all night, while he is doing a Fashion Shoot under a Bridge... There were like 11 people there, at $3000.00 a head = $33,000.00,
      for them to listen to this jerk Brag about himself all night.
      Then the True Amazing Part...
      He gets back to his "Studio" and tosses half a dozen SD Cards on the desk where Two 16 yo kids are playing Video Games, and says... "Make Me Look Good Boys!" ...
      In other words, after Ripping Off 11 people from Nebraska or wherever, this guy does "Spay and Pray" with his "High End, High Paid Models", and then some 16 yo Kids
      spend the next two days in Lightroom, "Making Him Look Good"...
      Sorry Pal... You will Never Convince Me that "Real Photography" is not Dead... all that is left are Fakers and Frauds...
      Nothing makes ANY Difference Anymore, because ANYONE can do it.
      Even if you are a 15 yo kid.
      So Why Bother, when Anything is Possible, and Anyone can do it?
      What made REAL Photography "Special", what that Very Few People had the SKILL and actual combination of Education and Experience as the basis to Develop that Skill, and Be an Actual Professional.
      Now, if Anyone with a Cell Phone and Lightroom, can "Call Themselves a Pro",
      what is the Sense?
      Advertising Agencies used to Pay Me insane amounts of Money, because they KNEW that Very Few People could do what I did, and Always Delivered Quality.
      Now that Anyone and Everyone can do Anything with a Cell Phone, and Deliver Quality... Nobody gets Paid well, and the Office Staff can take most of the photos they need.
      So tell me again how the Improvement in Tech is a Good Thing, when it pretty much wiped out an entire industry, and also Discredited Anyone who actually DID some Fine Work prior to the Digital Age, because People These Days see a "Nice Photo" and think it has Always been as Easy as it is Today...
      .

  • @terrylstarks
    @terrylstarks ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree with Mr. Smukler, I absolutely love the inter reaction between y’all and the info y’all provide. It helps with just the knowledge I learn!!!!! Confusing me sometimes. But I haven’t ever had an other camera in my hands except a Canon!!!! Oh except for a Polaroid my parents got me for my 14th birthday, 50 years ago. I think an artist can be just that artist using whatever they have in their hands. Your videos really excite me as to the good old days!!!! Thanks!!!!!

  • @raulcardona.
    @raulcardona. ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Which camera is this video filmed with? Looks great!

  • @stevenwaldstein2249
    @stevenwaldstein2249 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good comparison, thank you. You might think about adding a criteria of which top of the pyramid camera has a less expensive brother/sister camera to use with it. Then you could factor in to your evaluation a Z7II, or A7IV, or R6 or for Canon the R3 + R5. Also due a whole trinity lens set eval as a video to pair with this and maybe add in a macro.

  • @DuckMisty
    @DuckMisty ปีที่แล้ว +10

    For those of us with shallower pockets, the price/performance ratio is very important. The depreciation of the latest top-of-the-range cameras is crippling.

    • @unbroken1010
      @unbroken1010 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      All these people have deep pockets and don't support art

  • @1992tlp
    @1992tlp ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good choice, one I might have made with fewer economic limitations and access to a closet full of multi-vendor gear. Agree that the K9 with built in grip is a pro/con, but the R3 is closer than the Nikon to a good compromise on size/weight/function. Personally I am waiting for the R5 MkII, if Canon doesn’t screw it up by chasing megapixels. A 45MP stacked sensor and R3 AF would give Canon an A1 killer at

    • @wingcreator
      @wingcreator ปีที่แล้ว

      Canon is too greedy. Bought out the R1, and would have a better chance than R3 to level with Z9 / A1!

    • @daran0815
      @daran0815 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why on earth would Canon sell that at sub $4K?

  • @jochenschrey2909
    @jochenschrey2909 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. I'm not into wildlife and still have a 5D IV to master, so I 'll stay planning to get an R5 (II?) when I'll get serious.

  • @robertmorgan2219
    @robertmorgan2219 ปีที่แล้ว

    what camera / lens and lighting was used for this video (studio scenes) ? colors and skin tones are wonderful!

  • @Gmon750
    @Gmon750 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    R5 owner here. Absolutely happy with it. My hands will never touch a Sony.
    That being said, must be nice to be in a position to switch cameras/lenses/etc. as easy as Chelsea does. At these levels of performance, any of the brands she's contemplating will be more than adequate.

    • @lacayoj
      @lacayoj ปีที่แล้ว +5

      whole heartedly agree.... I must mention that in my YEARS watching these channel I have never seen a professional looking photo from Chelsea, only amateurish ones. So a Sony A1 is completely overkill IMHO. A canon R7 would've been enough for her.

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lacayoj I thought it was ridiculous when she claimed that she could handhold a Canon 600/4.0 and get sharp pictures.

    • @v8gtr
      @v8gtr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bngr_bngr I have the R5 and RF600mm f11. Tack sharp at 1/40th, ISO3200 handheld (obviously a lot lighter) and no noise in low light. Image stabilisation is superb. Perfect for me together with a lot of other EF glass and I have no intention of changing.

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@v8gtr yeah that’s not a Canon EF 600/4.0.

  • @robbycastillo7862
    @robbycastillo7862 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I recently bought the Sony A1. Love it. Coming from a Sony A7RIII. I switched from Canon back in 2014 to Sony and have never looked back.

    • @novakadventures
      @novakadventures ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I also upgraded from A7RIII to A1, and it's amazing!

    • @bfree1954
      @bfree1954 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As much as I love my A9 it’s definitely second fiddle to the A1. The difference is really pretty profound.

  • @serena-yu
    @serena-yu ปีที่แล้ว

    I chose A1 too. Just put my order yesterday. I am not a professional and not dedicated to a specific type of photographing, but I did take a decent amount of wild life and need reliable eye tracking. For a long time I have been in a headache trying to focus on birds and animals instead of branches, leaves or grass.

  • @leonzeta78
    @leonzeta78 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    some questione for canon r5. 1 rolling shutter problem is a big problem for tennis foto? 2 the new firmware fixed the problem of temperature? you cane make 4k video for 30 min without problem?

  • @barryscully1820
    @barryscully1820 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I would likely make the same choice if I had the money to pick up the A1. I currently use the R5 and A7RIV for mostly nature photography and love the fact that I can do 10 fps with tracking which I couldn't do with a high resolution camera a few years ago. The A1 would just bring it up to the next level with the stacked sensor as I never use electronic shutter on either of these cameras due to the slower readout speeds. The question for me is how much do I want that in terms of how much I would have to spend....who am I fooling, I will likely get it someday soon.

    • @tvm2209
      @tvm2209 ปีที่แล้ว

      Barry f_c_s.

    • @youuuuuuuuuuutube
      @youuuuuuuuuuutube ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait for the A1ii to be announced and you will be able to find used A1s at a great price.

  • @tommalito8863
    @tommalito8863 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which camera do you use? And do you switch manufacturers all the time? I can't keep up!
    I'm a D850 user, but I would love to get my hands on a Z9

  • @markusbolliger1527
    @markusbolliger1527 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If wildlife is your favorite topic the A1 is the best choice. For me as a landscape photographer it's the Nikon Z7II with great dynamic range at ISO 64.

    • @John-hl6er
      @John-hl6er ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes that base ISO does not emget enough credit. Superb

  • @Neopulse00
    @Neopulse00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your honesty Tony on the videography part of the Z9.

  • @rlast123
    @rlast123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tony and Chelsey, how about the AF (speed) of the lenses. Any noticeable difference between the brands?
    For 30FPS and tracking they should be fast!

  • @almath2115
    @almath2115 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you guys for all your reviews. It's so hard to switch when you've already invested in glass for a particular brand.
    I'm not a pro by any means but have been a Canon shooter for years and just feel at home with them. I do think that if I were to switch, I'd probably go with Sony as well. Thank you both for all that you do. PS: Can I buy your R5 from you Chelsea?😄

    • @jukeboxjohnnie
      @jukeboxjohnnie ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The sony dense brick shape and handling would probably drive you mad. GM primes are stunning though

    • @v8gtr
      @v8gtr ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jukeboxjohnnie The "brick" is the biggest turnoff for me as well. I have the R5 and see no reason to switch at all. Combined with the RF600mm f11 I've been astonished at what I can get in low light at 1/40th second and ISO 3200 handheld. I've also never liked Nikon and Sony colours, sure you can mess around in post but I like to see what I captured and not something that looks pretty. Just saying ...

  • @sn4rl277
    @sn4rl277 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am at 5:24 on the video and I already know she is going to pick the Sony. When you talk about the Z9 and not liking the build in vertical grip, and how you don't like it and it's to heavy. That is the exact reason why the Z9 is a Pro camera, it already has all that stuff build into the body. One thing I do not like about mirrorless is the small body, and having to add a vertical grip to the camera after the fact.
    Then at 11:05 Chelsea talks about shooting wildlife "all the time" that just gave it away, she is going... watch the video. lol
    Bayou Josh made a video on the eye detection on Sony A1 for birding and how it is better than the Z9 in that feature. I like that Josh shoots with both the A1 and Z9. Shows that you can do both and use what works best for each situation.
    Chelsea, you made the right choice for you. Thanks for letting us see the process and your reasoning behind your decision.

  • @larrypatterson2096
    @larrypatterson2096 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for always providing great content. I really enjoy your channel.

  • @jerrybarton4528
    @jerrybarton4528 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm currently shooting the A7R3, and the A74. I'm contemplating buying the A1 but I'm somewhat apprehensive because of the file size. Right off the bat I'll have to throw out a couple of hundred extra for bigger cards, I'm only using 128gb's. Then I have to worry if my laptop is going to be able to do the editing on the road, So what would you suggest for card size?

  • @michaelchan1081
    @michaelchan1081 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    bought the A1 when if was released because i already had glass for the A9 and A7r4. this is where most people find themselves making the choice. shoot mainly wildlife and need to reinforce your comment about the A1's EVF. mostly shoot now without leaving the eyepiece. this is crazy good in a lot of wildlife situations.

    • @CockpitScenes
      @CockpitScenes ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know. I don't find the EVF good at all. As soon as you hit the focus button everything goes blurry. Just quickly moving the camera makes everything pixilate. I have tried every combination of EVF settings, and nothing really looks good to me. I just don't get why everyone says it's so good...

  • @TonyAndChelsea
    @TonyAndChelsea  ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Go to squarespace.com/Chelsea & save 10% off your first website or domain with code “Chelsea"
    *IMPORTANT* we aren't doing a giveaway, we aren't on telegram, and we will NEVER ask you for money. Please don't get scammed.

  • @kaminobatto
    @kaminobatto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From the thumbnail you could see that the final choice was the A1. No one has the right to tell anyone else what to buy, enjoy, or switch to; it's a personal preference. If I personally had the need for a top professional body, I would probably get both the Z9 and the A1 as between them they have a great set of features and strengths.

  • @beskimo2
    @beskimo2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for doing this. I have been trying to decide on what mirrorless to go to. I have owned all three brands at different points in time. I still like the UI of my 5D mk 3 when it first came out and I really like how the photos came out. I saw it on KEH and tempted to relive my time with it since it might be the one I enjoyed the most. I like the lens choices of Sony and it feels like they are more modern. Id be worried about getting a r5 now and Canon coming out with an updated version.

  • @swistedfilms
    @swistedfilms ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The truth is that there's really not "one camera to rule them all." Even if you have an amazing camera like the Nikon D850 it's going to be too big for travel for some people. And if you use the R6 for travel then it's not going to have enough megapixels for wildlife. There's always going to be a compromise somewhere.

    • @capturemedia3092
      @capturemedia3092 ปีที่แล้ว

      Z8 gone rule the camera world for next 2 r 3 yrs mark my wrds once it gets announced everyone will be going fr z8 like ppl going fr z9 now

    • @07wrxtr1
      @07wrxtr1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@capturemedia3092 I had to re-read that 3x... If you're too LAZY to spell entire WORDS, people probably won't take you seriously. Furthermore - there will never be "one" single anything to "rule them all." There's always compromises and nuances, personal preferences, and product differentiation. Your statement applies to you, not everyone. Maybe the "z9" will "rule" for you. Is there ONE car to "rule" them all? One anything in anything?

    • @zfreek98
      @zfreek98 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      “To each their own” is the adage that applies here. :)

    • @amateurphotographer1096
      @amateurphotographer1096 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "not enough megapixels for wildlife".. I wonder how the pros in the 90's/early 2000 shot all those amazing wildlife images!? And how they print all those billboard size images. 😁. There is always a compromise you are right but having used those 8mp or even 6mp cameras back then, i feel like there is too much unnecesary time spent over analysing cameras these days. Not enough mp, not fast enough fps, rolling shutter, articulating screen is better then tilt, bad colours yada yada yada...not a lot of shooters these days but we have hordes of pixel peepers.

    • @swistedfilms
      @swistedfilms ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amateurphotographer1096 you know, I really want someone to take the Pepsi Challenge on this issue. I want to see a 20MP image blown up to 48 x 72 and compare it to the same image from a 5DSR blown up to the same size. I know it's an expensive experiment but somebody needs to put an end to the debate once and for all.
      Tony did this experiment, sort of. But it wasn't real world. It wasn't being viewed at a distance like we would normally view larger prints.
      Jared Polin has a 48 x 72 in his house but he never said what camera was used to take the shot. Maybe we can ask him.

  • @notwrk
    @notwrk ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you both for all your hard work. As always I learn so much from your videos. It is good that you switch systems to help educate the rest of us 📸📸📸😁😁😁

  • @ryannelson2079
    @ryannelson2079 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Chelsea - I’m interested in Sony 100-400mm G Lense 4.5-5.6. Do you use this(?)
    I do wildlife and landscape only + occasional video and I’m not sure what body to match it with. Recommendations(?)
    I’m not an avid bird photographer, rather, general wildlife while hiking, or driving through national parks. Budget is open / flexible but I’m not a business pro so I’m not looking to spend the major $ for 100-400 2.8. + I value lightweight component. Which is why I figure 100-400 instead of 200-600..
    Would love your thoughts!

  • @robertopagan9734
    @robertopagan9734 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the info I agree with you the weight makes it better for hiking

  • @vkmccable
    @vkmccable ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Olympus has had pro capture for quite awhile now. It is a champ!

  • @Skipsul
    @Skipsul ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OK, I'm just going to say this before even letting the video play out: Sony, Nikon, and Canon all have great systems. Match the tool to the job and to how you use that tool. If you can get job 1 done most easily with Canon, but Job 2 with Nikon, then use both if you can afford it. Heck, I've got Sony mirrorless cameras, but still whip out my old Minolta or a Barnack Leica for 35mm. All depends on what I'm trying to do, and where. I'd love a Z9, I'd love an R3, I'd love an A1.

    • @Bladeclaw00100
      @Bladeclaw00100 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you let the video play out. She explains why she picked the A1.

    • @Skipsul
      @Skipsul ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Bladeclaw00100 I did watch it all - my point was that any choice of hers was going to be the correct choice... for her. Which is fine. I mean, it's fun to see pros put these things through their paces, and the comparisons are genuinely informative, but the hype is kinda silly when the issue is really low stakes - Nobody is ever brand-locked except by their budgets, and can jump to another system as funds and needs dictate.

  • @jamieteestudio
    @jamieteestudio ปีที่แล้ว

    Are Canon 5Div still good in this comparison? As I wanted to switch from my Canon80D to full sensor, since I have few L lens with me for Potrait, Street and Landscape photographs, may be some video. Tracking on 5Div good enough for some animal shooting?

  • @ThreeCeeProductions
    @ThreeCeeProductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video. Canon R5 is 2 steps down from flagship but best overall camera from them IMHHO. My choice for Wedding/Event and Bird Photography where 45MP sensor is a beast when cropping.

  • @bsmukler
    @bsmukler ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Camera comparisons aside, I love this video simply for your interaction. It put a positive spin on my day!

    • @chelseanorthrup8787
      @chelseanorthrup8787 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks Ben! I’m glad our positivity made your day better ❤️

    • @bsmukler
      @bsmukler ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It always does. Thanks Chelsea.

    • @supercatsimon
      @supercatsimon ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes I want what they have :(

  • @adiapte9575
    @adiapte9575 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am waiting for the APS C version of A1.. which has exactly same AF and performance as A1 but an APSC 33 MP stacked sensor with 30 FPS. That would be a killer camera body
    Don’t know when they will release it. Also if they also release A9III with 33-36 MP stacked sensor, I would go for that one

    • @karlbratby4349
      @karlbratby4349 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuji XH2S seems a Sony A1 but aps-c … looks great from the initial review and hands on at a Fuji touch and try day

    • @karlbratby4349
      @karlbratby4349 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Shariq Ahmed🌎💙 you said you wanted an APS-C ??

  • @2_Crafty_Seniors_2
    @2_Crafty_Seniors_2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do enjoy watching your camera comparisons, you do a great evaluation, though at the moment I am not ready to buy I defensively will be turning to you for an honest evaluation. Thank you again.

  • @luistravieso1248
    @luistravieso1248 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review you definably gave me a good explanation on the main features.

  • @RayDeLuca
    @RayDeLuca ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Although I love you guys the Statement that the F series glass on the Z9 wouldn't affect focus tracking is completely wrong. Let me start off by saying it's not going to change your outcome I am simple saying the slower the lens focus motor can move the slower the tracking autofocus will be because the info coming back into the lens and being calculated by the camera is delayed. Tony you should know this :)

  • @richardbradley2641
    @richardbradley2641 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just use what you are happy with and can afford, the art of photography is in the way you use the camera, not the camera itself after all.

    • @TonyAndChelsea
      @TonyAndChelsea  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely! As I say in the beginning, I don't expect everyone to switch but trying new cameras is my job.

  • @MODESTYXO205
    @MODESTYXO205 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would you prefer the canon r6 or Sony a7siii for video what lens would you recommend

  • @daycreek
    @daycreek ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sometimes it's not just the camera body that can sway your buying decision. I do primarily nature/wildlife/birds and Sony's 200-600mm lens is glued to my A1. It's such a great pair and so far I have not seen a similar system from Canon nor Nikon.
    Canon has the 100-500 but the lens is more expensive, doesn't have the same reach and extends externally when zoomed. Add a teleconverter to it and it doesn't retract all the way. Canon should have built a similar lens to the Sony 200-600 IMO.
    A downside to the A1 is that animal eye detect does not work in video mode and enabling tracking in video mode requires you to touch the back display. Other than those two things, I have no other complaints with the A1. I've had mine for over a year now.

  • @anulearntech
    @anulearntech ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In future Canon and Nikon may as well overcome all their caveats over autofocus, but what they wont get is the range of 3rd party lenses that Sony system has access to. 10 85mm lenses to choose from with each having its own selling point, 35-150 f2-f2.8, pocketable 17-28 f2.8. That's the biggest MSP of Sony for me.

    • @aceflibble
      @aceflibble ปีที่แล้ว

      There's absolutely no reason to believe Canon and Nikon won't get that same third-party support; int he case of Canon they'll likely get _more_ third-party support than Sony eventually, since they have wider distribution in regions where third-party products tend to sell better.
      It is utterly bizarre to think that, after decades upon decades of third-parties making lenses for all systems, that somehow this time around Sony will maintain some kind of exclusivity.

    • @wellwhatthen10101
      @wellwhatthen10101 ปีที่แล้ว

      What planet or what are you sniffing it has been proven that the Canon has the best auto focus out . The only thing that you can complain about is the third party lens selection PLus you can use nearly all of the EF l lens to boot on the R5

    • @anulearntech
      @anulearntech ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aceflibble there is ample reason to believe that canikon won't get 3rd party support because they explicitly deny they from making lenses. Clearest example is the recent legal threat by Canon to Samyang for reverse engineering their rf mount, after which Samyang removed all their rf glass.
      On other hand sony has an open mount. Any company can sign an agreement and can make e mount lenses with full knowledge of e-mount system and communication protocols. No reverse engineering. And they perform just like native sony glass barring a 15 fps barrier and no Teleconverter support.

    • @wingcreator
      @wingcreator ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aceflibble The problem is that Nikon and Canon are stopping/holding 3rd parties companies like Samyang (which makes probably the cheapest but very good primes for Sony FE) from making their mirrorless version. So there will be a longer wait (remember Sony started mirrorless over 7 years ago which has a head start + Sony openly welcome other making lenses for them. Also, Sony has a stake in Tamron - one of the best lightweight mirrorless options for Sony FE).

    • @wingcreator
      @wingcreator ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anulearntech Yes, that's why someone mention Tamron 70-180 is the cheapest with very good quality 70-200 and I said no as it cannot connect to 1.4 / 2.0x (one of the few 3rd-parties limitations for FE mount). That's why Sony released the really great update of 70-200GM2!

  • @tc6912
    @tc6912 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I guess now you need to remove the big "N" for Nikon from your set.
    I am a Nikon shooter and hope to stay that way. However, in your shoes, I would make the same choice. I would be surprised if Sony doesn't always stay on the cutting edge. They have the largest budget for R&D. The A1 is outside of my budget and I can't get past the inferior screen and evf resolution used in the A7iv. Also the Sony's just feel inferior in my hand. The big body on the Nikon turned me off as well.
    I know you feel like you are defending your Nikon opinions, but when you say you didn't want to include the new Nikon 800mm pf because it's unfair to the others, but use the more complete lense selection as a plus for Sony, you are not being totally fair. Nikon is giving sports and wildlife enthusiast a great lense lineup.

  • @lewcehjitl3282
    @lewcehjitl3282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really wished they fixed the AF on the Sony Alpha 7 IV. Can’t track birds behind cages also it seems to pick up wires and straight lines over the object in front of you. The canon Eos r5 is the best camera to be honest let’s just be thankful with what we have :)

  • @DRONIXAR
    @DRONIXAR ปีที่แล้ว

    Gracias Chicos

  • @MrTmiket0007
    @MrTmiket0007 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love all your videos, thanks for sharing another wonderful video like always, looking forward to see the new Canon R7 review🙏😊

  • @lukes5533
    @lukes5533 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Funny how no one else is having focus issues with the Z9 like you both do!

    • @ghostx7076
      @ghostx7076 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They have some personal problem with Nikon and it sits in their brain.

    • @kennygo8300
      @kennygo8300 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nikon will no longer send them cameras to test. Notice the lack of Z30 review. These two bashing Nikon is fun to watch. Childishness at its best.

    • @jophoto934
      @jophoto934 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      All these jealous, envious haters on here talking like they know best. Hilarious

    • @lukes5533
      @lukes5533 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jophoto934 Jo blow knows best

    • @ghoshdebashisa
      @ghoshdebashisa ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@jophoto934 No....its not about being jealous. I used to follow Tony when he posted genuinely good reviews but somehow Chelsea though initially was a good sidekick but over time she diluted the content mak8ng Tony's content frivolous like how Ken Rockwel is. Tony used to know stuff but now I don't like his content anymore. Most of the time I see these too and I see Square Space. Jared Polin used to be irritating until I realised he is good with reviews and presents in a manner that is unique to him. Tony and Chelsea are wrong about the Z9 and the A1. I have seen both these cameras at work and never once have I heard that A1 and Z9 users have af issues.....amongst the users that I shoot with.

  • @brucegraner5901
    @brucegraner5901 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed the video and it's always interesting to me to listen to why different photographers pick the gear they shoot. No judgement. Cameras are like shoes, every photographer has to pick the what fits best for them.

  • @christopherclarke6184
    @christopherclarke6184 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started with a Nikon D3000,3300,7200,D3,D810 and now had the original Z6 and am happy with it . Having used a D3 , they are very heavy , the only reason I got rid of it . Eye tracking is a nice feature . But I use manual focus .

  • @yarbgreat1
    @yarbgreat1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want to buy Canon because I already have lenses for it, but. . . the only 2 canon's to have I.S are the R5 and 6 😪. Id get the R6 if it wasnt so low M.P. I'd get the R5 if it wasnt so much money.

    • @SteveP_2426
      @SteveP_2426 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bought my R5 as a grey import through a UK based company who have a good reputation and I'd used before. It came with a 3 year warranty through the company for £1300 saving! No brainer.

  • @jonbidmead94
    @jonbidmead94 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A1 for me. Has it all. 2nd hand prices make it a real contender. But all the big 3 companies are producing incredible stuff rite now. Great for consumers

    • @wingcreator
      @wingcreator ปีที่แล้ว

      But Sony is producing smaller, lighter, and better lenses now (even though people joke at the fact that the smaller FE mount cannot make f1.2 lenses but Sony has proved that the king of current AF 50 1.2 with 50GM)! Also, lots of people bitching no 3rd parties lenses for Canon RF - it stopped Samyang from making RF lenses legally / Nikon Z).

  • @1990geddes
    @1990geddes ปีที่แล้ว

    I know it’s off topic not being a full frame but will you test the OM-1 I have a heap of m4/3 lenses and I’m interested in how it goes for wildlife and sports

  • @jimgsewell
    @jimgsewell ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool, enjoy your new camera. I'm in the R5 camp

    • @mike309saa
      @mike309saa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you still use an R5? I've only got a 77D atm as my first DSLR but I'm really wanting more from a camera now that I've improved as a photographer. I also want to do some videography. Ik there's a record limit on the R5 and there's the overheating issues which I think have mostly been resolved but just wondering if the Sony A1 will be better?

    • @jimgsewell
      @jimgsewell 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mike309saa Yes, the R5 has a 30 minute record limit. I don’t have overheat issues. I have never used the A1. I can’t say which one is best for you, but I love my R5. It is far and away the best camera I have ever used. I upgraded from a 5DM4. Best thing I have ever done. My pictures took a huge step forward. I don’t have any RF glass, I’m using good EF glass, and I don’t see any reason to go for the RF. Well, I would like the new 800mm RF. The new focus system is otherworldly. I can shoot with EF glass @ f/1.2 in dim light, and every, or nearly every, picture nails focus. Because my pictures are so much better, I find that I use it far more than I have any other camera. I hear that the A1 is good too. I’m sure you’ll enjoy either camera. Good luck.

  • @CDIPERRI67
    @CDIPERRI67 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just love you guys! This is unbelievable that Chelsea is switching again, I love her honesty as well as her great evaluation and very honest and sincere evaluations of her present camera choice. I am always committed to Canon I still have my Canon QL Film Camera that I purchased when I was in the Military. Presently I have chosen the R6 mainly because I am a novice photographer. As I started this comment I really enjoy you guys, i learned so much from both of you and Tony you did a great job on the latest Lightroom upgrades. I did take a big dive and embraced Leica Q2 which I truly love and I know that a lot of people would say I must be out of my mind to spend that much on a camera, however, the results that I get out of the Leica with the 28MM 1.7 lens is really something to believe. Thank you so much Chelsea for your honesty, you make this TH-cam sessions so entertaining.

  • @timothylinn
    @timothylinn ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Isn’t Nikon’s pre-capture JPG-only? That would be a dealbreaker for me.

  • @LoriGraceAz
    @LoriGraceAz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My first professional camera was the Canon 5DMarkIII, and I'd waited far too long for Canon to catch up with Sony in both the mirrorless and dynamic range departments. So I finally switched to Sony getting the a7RIII which I absolutely loved. Eventually added the a7III, a7SIII, and finally the a1 which is by far the best camera I've ever used. Most importantly, it's become the camera I LOVE to shoot with. I want the a1 with me before any other camera, and I'll take it nearly everywhere I go. Whatever choice people make, the best camera is the one you carry, so make sure whatever brand or camera you use, that you just have fun with it. I'm ready for another a1 at this point to replace the other three.

    • @wingcreator
      @wingcreator ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I gave up on Canon after 32 years (the first was Canon A-1 / T90 and the last was 5Ds and everything high and mid-end in between). Started with A7 with adapted MF and EF lenses. Have used A7II / III / C / IV + A7RII / III / IV. Would love to have an A1 II (A1 is almost perfect but need a flip mon) soon. Canon was being too greedy, has it came out with the R1 (45mp R3+R5 hybrid), it would at least level with A1 and Z9.

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doesn't the Z9 only have prefocus when shooting JPEG? I understand the R7 has precapture in full RAW. I agree with the R5 rolling shutter issue so I use mechanical on mine. The R7 has 15 FPS mechanical, faster than all of these. When the R1 comes out, I expect Chelsea to switch all over again.

    • @KevinNordstrom
      @KevinNordstrom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i agree with you. I pre ordered the r7 which will be my back up camera to the R1 whenever that sucker ever releases if ever haha. But the r7 for its price and its similar specs of the r3 with autofocus will be great for wildlife. More noise being crop senor but to be honest it will clear right up in post and i enjoy editing anyways. I currently use the RP and Going from 5 fps to 15 will be insane. And i agree they will switch when the R1 is released lmao

  • @matthewmallett4718
    @matthewmallett4718 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You absolutely made the right choice. I was a Nikon digital shooter for over 20 years and whilst they are excellent in so many ways they are so far behind when it comes to autofocus and I would be the first to defend them as a manufacturer.....however.....the difference between Sonys Af systems on cameras such as the A7iv and A1 which I now have are a long long way ahead of what Nikon offer. The Z9 is where Nikon should have been at the start but they are playing catch up all the time. The Z6 and Z7 as good as they were are autofocus failures compared to the Sonys and the Z6ii and z7ii were brought out with promises that they would address issues such as autofocus. They were marginal improvements at best. Its great to be brand centric because photography is not cheap but I for one was blinkered when it came to camera makes thinking there was no one doing things better than Nikon and I was wrong. For now I have made the leap to Sony and 100% think it was the right decision. In the future I may very well change again should Nikon catch up but they need to be careful. Time moves on and so do people.

    • @ChristopherFreedom
      @ChristopherFreedom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldn't agree with you more.. well said 🙏📷👍☮️🐬

  • @SlyOcelot
    @SlyOcelot ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The switching videos will never end and I'm here for it.

  • @jroar123
    @jroar123 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a hobby, I am considering shooting an old medium format camera in black and white. I also want to develop my own negatives and scan them to my old MacPro that I turned into a 48 gig dual 3.33 I7 CPU and tons of storage. In the end as a novice it's about enjoying the trip outside or photographing something of interest inside using my lighting system. On a budget, which film camera would you suggest?

  • @armandot9137
    @armandot9137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    R5 is not really designed to be operated primarily in e-shutter, so if you use the camera mostly in e-shutter it trails the A1 and Z9 considerably in terms of rolling shutter, DR and low light performance, banding in artificial light. Also, the EFV does a great job in keeping up but it is not a true blackout free experience.

  • @Rayiaea1
    @Rayiaea1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Glad you have chosen the A1.

    • @mrmrb04
      @mrmrb04 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh no it didn’t watch it all the way through yet🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @russfairburn7528
    @russfairburn7528 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The last time you did this process you sold me on the R5 which I am super grateful for. I absolutely love my R5 and thank you for giving me a lot of great info which helped me make the jump. Enjoy the A1 Chelsea! I will be looking forward to your switch to the R1 :) All the best, Russ

    • @SteveP_2426
      @SteveP_2426 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's gonna happen...sure as eggs are eggs!

    • @Frontdesk99
      @Frontdesk99 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SteveP_2426 Of course it is. Whatever brand is paying them most that week.

  • @richard2139
    @richard2139 ปีที่แล้ว

    So what would be best 400 2.8 plus 1.4 converter or 600 4 Sony A1 keep in mind the newer sharper software

  • @robertbohnaker9898
    @robertbohnaker9898 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I understand the Canon R7 has precapture too. I think 1/2 second. Not bad for the money. Am I right On this ?Thanks.😊

    • @TonyAndChelsea
      @TonyAndChelsea  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah but electronic shutter only, which has serious rolling shutter problems.

    • @robertbohnaker9898
      @robertbohnaker9898 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aha ! Thanks. Can’t afford those other bodies .Hoping to get the R7 and a serious piece of glass Finally listening to what you’ve all been saying for years ! 🤣

  • @petercofrancesco9812
    @petercofrancesco9812 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I appreciate all you guys do. I'm glad you did a video like this because there is a lot of deception in camera review videos. Most channels will only get gear if they have a positive spin and you need to get views to earn a living. I see on forums there is strong brand loyalty. Say something bad about Sony, Canon, Nikon, etc they will come after you to defend "their" brand. I think this is because when people invest a lot a money in a brand they want reviewers to confirm they made the right decision.
    In addition the industry is very frustrating because they don't disclose limitation. Cameras often don't perform as advertised. Each manufacture does it best to make sure it has niche features making it difficult to find something that is a good all around camera. The manufactures don't want to build a camera with the same features as the others and have to directly compete against one another on price. I wouldn't want to have to come up with test and review gear. It sound like it's a thankless job.

    • @JePeVePe
      @JePeVePe ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't forget that Chelsea can do this, because she gets money from this kind of 'reviews'...
      For normal people, just pick a brand... if you have Sony, keep shooting with Sony, if you have Canon, keep shooting with Canon.
      It's nonsense to switch like she does, really. The differences are marginal, and for businesses, it doesn't 'gain' you anything to switch, it only cost you money which you don't 'gain' back that easy... Clients don't care which brand you shoot.
      What Chelsea does, switching camera's that oft, is silly... nice for youtube, but silly in real world.

  • @clark7894
    @clark7894 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would like to try the A1 (maybe I'll rent one), but for now I really love my Nikon Z7ii with Z glass. The Nikon AF is better than I could have ever imagined a few years ago.

    • @capturemedia3092
      @capturemedia3092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree many people goes gaga over nikon autofocus i seriously doubt how they managed the autofocus in dslr era

    • @wingcreator
      @wingcreator ปีที่แล้ว

      Sony GM lenses are getting lighter, better, faster, and cheaper than both Canon RF / Nikon Z high-end lenses.

    • @daran0815
      @daran0815 ปีที่แล้ว

      While the Z7ii does tracking and has wide senor AF coverage, as far as I know the high end DSLRs were focusing faster.

  • @KW86.
    @KW86. ปีที่แล้ว

    What camera are you filming with?

  • @brianmiller921
    @brianmiller921 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I returned the OMD E-M1X because of the built in grip and the bird tracking didn’t work for beans. I was thinking about going back to full frame with the Canon R5.

    • @JoeMaranophotography
      @JoeMaranophotography ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Om-1?

    • @stevemurnan1702
      @stevemurnan1702 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just sold my R5 & EF600 F4 and bought the OM1 with the Olympus 300 f4 Pro, 100-400 f5 - f6.3 and 150-400 f4.5 1.25 TC lenses and had change. I couldn't be happier.

    • @brianmiller921
      @brianmiller921 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JoeMaranophotography I have that one now. The bird tracking still sucks compared to Nikon/Canon.

    • @brianmiller921
      @brianmiller921 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevemurnan1702 I have the 300mm and the 40-150 with the teleconverters. I rented the 100-400mm and didn't think the quality was any better than the 40-150/2x combo and the 200mm difference was negligible.

    • @JoeMaranophotography
      @JoeMaranophotography ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianmiller921 I have heard and seen nothing but good things so far?

  • @robbrennen4728
    @robbrennen4728 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think you discounted the R3 prematurely. I have both R5 and R3 and wildlife images are at least as good and usually better with the R3. 14bit Raw images at full speed (30 fps) on a stacked sensor so very limited to no rolling shutter. I've too many reviews that dwell on the 24 MP spec but I've tested extensively in a test environment and real world testing and R3 often has better images, even cropped, mostly due to much lower noise. Appreciate the video.

    • @TonyAndChelsea
      @TonyAndChelsea  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We did test it for wildlife. The difference in detail is massive.

  • @gregorygour
    @gregorygour ปีที่แล้ว +3

    you guys, just keep getting better and better...

    • @TonyAndChelsea
      @TonyAndChelsea  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ohhh that's an interesting idea! First, I want to do some videos about budget gear for a bit to balance out all of this expensive stuff.

  • @scotts685
    @scotts685 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t think the switching videos are over, because if the rumored Z8 is as solid as the D850, Chelsea will be making a switching video on why she’s ditching the A1 for the Z8. 😉

  • @arvidjohansson3120
    @arvidjohansson3120 ปีที่แล้ว

    You definitely made the right choice, for you!
    You tried all the cameras and picked the one you liked best, I could not think of a better way. I would say that you have put more testing into your pick than 99% of photographers.
    It will be fun to see how the upcoming 40Mp fuji X-H2s compare to the lineup. Nothing is confirmed yet but 2500$, 40 Mp, 15 FPS mechanical and 20 FPS electronic, vastly improved AF. To me, it sounds like a baby R5 but 1.2 stops darker. If they have nailed the AF it will be one competitive camera. I am really looking forward to the sensor ending up in the xPro4.

  • @theory8sf
    @theory8sf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I played with most of the brands and they're all great but I end up sticking with Nikon because of the raw files and photo image quality. But when it comes to video, I like Canon/Lumix!

  • @johnhoey4605
    @johnhoey4605 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Only way I’d give up my R5 is when it’s pried from my cold and very dead fingertips….

  • @raymondbelliveau6166
    @raymondbelliveau6166 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just bought the R5, have a Z50, ill be busy for a while. Love your videos .

  • @duncanwallace7760
    @duncanwallace7760 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for trying to be fair as possible. QUESTION: I noticed in some of the bird tracking videos where you were saying the Z9 was losing focus, the birds were super-small in the frame and wouldn't have made good photos anyway. Did you have issues when the birds were bigger in the frame, i.e. big enough that if you had taken a shot, they could have been keeper images? I ask because I have a Z9 on order, having found the original Z7 ok, not that great for birds in flight.

    • @TonyAndChelsea
      @TonyAndChelsea  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Usually you start tracking a bird when it's far away and then it flies close and you can get a better shot. It's exponentially harder to get a bird in focus and in the frame when it's closer to you, and the Nikon struggled even harder in that scenario.
      Also keep in mind we took 35,000 photos with the Z9 over the course of 5 months and didn't record the screen because it interferes. What you saw in the video was meant to illustrate the frustrations we had; it wasn't every scenario we tested.

    • @duncanwallace7760
      @duncanwallace7760 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@TonyAndChelsea Thanks and I agree, it would be better to start tracking when they are far away. Would you say the Z9 is better than the D850 for moving birds? I have an old D4 and I found that was very good. I also have some Panasonics, but they seem significantly worse than the Z7.

  • @zfreek98
    @zfreek98 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I make sure to capture your videos because you guys are real. You admit mistakes if you make them, you are not afraid to show humility, and you are knowledgable of the subject matter because you live it, not just because you want the likes. As someone who's trying to make a splash in this industry myself, I commend and appreciate you guys.
    A friend of mine is a Canon R6 shooter. He loves to bash my Sony equipment and smack-talk the color. I admit, Canon's colors look incredible. But when we were out shooting an airshow, he had to take a break to take his battery out and cool it off. He also had to switch batteries halfway through because he drained one.
    I shot over 3000 photos on my A1 with the 200-600, and barely tagged 50% of battery ONE in my grip. And that was outside in 95 degree weather in the sun. The camera just performs. And since I took the time to build a preset that updates my A1's colors to be more Nikonian, I'm perfectly happy with this system and do not have plans of switching. Just hoping Sony starts throwing some more interesting lens options out there. An f/2 standard zoom and some diffractive lenses would be a hell of a start.

    • @cruzinthru8285
      @cruzinthru8285 ปีที่แล้ว

      Must be Nice to have That Kind of Money, in This Economy...

  • @tbgtom
    @tbgtom ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I figured the Northrups would abandon Canon eventually... I'm actually surprised it wasn't sooner. Personally, I love Canon and am thrilled with their equipment.

    • @arunphillips6977
      @arunphillips6977 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't worry, they'll be back, once they've done the rounds with Nikon, Sony etc...!

  • @mrmrb04
    @mrmrb04 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    have you tried the canon R3? If you liked the canon system, the r3 has more than the r5 and it might be more comparable to the z9 or the a1.

    • @TonyAndChelsea
      @TonyAndChelsea  ปีที่แล้ว

      THe answer to your question is here: th-cam.com/video/kUt1OvOw5GY/w-d-xo.html

  • @ajlbeer
    @ajlbeer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys sold me on the R5 :D But I love this. Thanks for walking us through all the considerations and process you were confronting.

    • @phototester
      @phototester ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope that in reality, you don't trust youtubers to make purchases of that caliber. Their interests are not yours. They are diametrically opposite. They do not care which camera is the best in relation to quality price. Only the brand that treats them best.

    • @ajlbeer
      @ajlbeer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@phototester hmmm... it seems like you either didn't watch the video, or didn't quite catch the context of their title & my reply? But also, if you are so opposed to youtubers, what are you doing in here?

    • @phototester
      @phototester ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ajlbeer annoy questioners and go first.