jasona9 the hack never respected the game, never memorized a play book, never “really” passed a college class. He was lazy and unfocused with no behavioral boundaries. Football chews people up and spits them out if they fail to respect
Kevin Prima you do know JJ used to be scrawny too right? He said so himself but he put in the work to change that. And besides they’re different positions. QBs don’t need to be near the weight or height of a DE
Kevin Prima imagine trying to say a QB’s muscle size has affect on their ability. Go look at Tom Brady’s, the absolute greatest quarterback of all time, combine. He was slow, out of shape, and even more scrawny than Manziel. He simply put in more work with things like Film, reading defenses, mastering playbooks, and even building solid working relationships with his receivers. Football has a lot to do with raw physical talent but, that raw physical talent HAS TO be backed up by a passionate, hard working person. There’s plenty of people with the raw physical traits to be pro-athletes, most of them just simply don’t have the necessary drive.
Well said Bill Kinda like every other work for pay position anyone does. - landscaper - accountant - salesman - nfl quarterback No matter the job, you have to work at it.
It's funny. They said that Lamar Jackson's similar talent wouldn't translate to the NFL either but look at him now. It shows that if you put in the work, you can make professionals look like amateurs. Having a humble attitude is icing on the cake.
@@razorburns8651 It wasn't just the Niner's, the weather had lot to do with his containment. I would love to see that game played again in ideal weather. That would remove all doubt.
@@BayAreaClownShow He really is. As a Louisville fan, I watched him his entire college career and some of the stuff he did was feakin' amazing. His coming out party had to be his first bowl game as a freshman against Texas A&M. If you want to see that party, click here: th-cam.com/video/uV5-A9sd6DU/w-d-xo.html. Keep in mind that he didn't even know the playbook during that game because his coach never used one in high school! He later would say in a interview that he didn't really know what most of his guys were doing on the field so he just winged it! Lol! By watching that game, you can easily see how raw he was and how much he's improved. You will also see why he went so late in the draft and why NFL coaches wanted him to change positions. But his mom made sure that he would be a QB at Louisville and the rest is history. But the game that won him the Heisman had to be the Gameday thumping against Florida State. By that game, the entire nation was watching and teams knew what he could do. Even still, Louisville with Lamar Jackson hung more points on Florida State than any team has ever done in Florida State school history. THAT WAS A FUN GAME! I was lucky enough to be at both games and this Florida State game was as crazy as a college atmosphere as there ever was. If you want to be entertained, check it out here: th-cam.com/video/lhSZeBRaV3s/w-d-xo.html Have a fun Saturday!
Once Manziel did that money gesture when he was drafted, I knew he was going to be a bust. Life lesson: If the money is your focus, you will hate the job. If the job is your focus, you will enjoy the money.
Skip loves SEC football he’s loved every big sec qb though the two best known ones is his love for Johnny and for Tebow. Imagine if Tebow had Johnny’s ability? He failed cause he didn’t care enough about on field gaming, if he had Tim’s lifestyle maybe he could had survived cause why Tim failed is he wasn’t talented enough to play really but you couldn’t question Tim’s character
Skip gets paid to say stupid shit sometimes, the NFL loves when they can over hype a marketable athlete and pull profits for a hot minute even though their talent level is really not there. I bet Kaep has been a freaking goldmine for only having low QB2 talent.
I was partying in LA at the clubs around the same time he had just been drafted. Saw him a few times in the clubs living it up, getting drunk with the bottle service. Figured he would be a bust. Just way too into living the fast life vs. being a good QB in the NFL.
@Josean Thompson Unfortunately partying & being a successful long term NFL QB don't mix. Being a great NFL QB involves putting in the time to train, eat right, study film, etc. It's a 24 hr job for the years you are playing. Unfortunately too many players want to live it & love the partying more than the professional side of the NFL.
Narrator: "Of all the fascinating downfall stories in the NFL, Manziel's is the most recent and most covered by the media." Antonio Brown: "Hold my beer."
There's certainly a hell of a lot of traffic in front of him. Thank God that the Browns eventually got it right with Baker Mayfield, as much as I love Derek Carr both Mayfield and Rogers are prototypical franchise stars in my book.
Johnny and I had the same problem. Went from a full ride engineering scholarship to living on couches because I thought my natural abilities could get me through and instead spent my time getting drunk and high. I hope he can make his comeback in the XFL and can conquer his demons. He could be one helluva talent.
Manzel's biggest curse was being over hyped yet under developed extremely early his career. He was allowed to get away with too many mistakes on the field in collage that didn't transfer well in the pros, all in all he was wildly undisciplined and under developed.
It could be said that his college coaches failed him. instead of trying to instill some discipline and forcing hom to earn his spot they saw he could win in a spread offense with just his athleticism. And when he got to the Browns that wasn’t enough. Especially because he had 0 support on that sorry ass team.
2012, I was 16yo kid from indonesia, almost nobody here that watch american football. I was reading eyeshield 21 manga, then started to search and watch a some real games out of curiosity. That was how i stumbled upon the greatness of johnny manziel and instantly fell in love. Been watching nfl ever since, thank you johnny❤️
I think your story is great!-you had an open mind and now you have a new sport to love-bravo!-my late mother cooked the greatest rice table btw😎nasi bami saute...
@@WildanNoegraha meatheads man who have nothing in their minds out hearts worth shite. Check out college football its awesome, NFL is well oiled and smooth like a day of formula 1. College ball is dirt track racing, more chaotic and fun at times. I recommend becoming a Nebraska Cornhusker fan for the reason they are bringing a blend of new speed with old Hisker power. Have a good one Wildan.
I called him being a bust from the very beginning. Not just because of the immaturity, but for two other reasons: first, I felt he was undersized for a quarterback, and second....well, it's Cleveland.
Being drafted by the Browns did not ruin his career. Sure, the Browns are not a top tiered team by any stretch of the imagination, but the fact is that Manziel did not have what it takes to be an NFL quarterback, plain and simple. The NFL is not college football. Player's are drafted and are obligated and expected to train, study, and develop into their respective positions. Poor Johnny Foosball thought he was already trained, thought he knew the game, and thought he was developed enough to excel in the NFL.
CastleBravo Browns ruined there pocket pass QBs confidence since they had no weapons the rookie weren’t able to develop and adjust to the game Browns WRs were trash Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden and Johnny Manziel all victims
Being undersized maybe did have an affect on his failure but there are undersized QBs who made it despite being undersized like brees, flutie, Russell Wilson to prove that theory wrong...bottom line is it was straight up his style of play...playing every down like it was some playground ball with no sense of structure is what fucked him...he relied solely on his athleticism to try to make plays in the nfl and didn't give 2 shits about offensive schemes and concepts...just played by the seat of his pants and was cocky about it too so we saw how long that lasted
"Johnny was always at his best when the play broke down": That should've told you everything you needed to know, right there. The plays didn't just "broke down". They often "broke down" because he didn't have the quick thinking and Football IQ to go through his reads and play on anticipation. Still hyped him to the Moon, though. Everyone did.
@@xSoulRedemptioNx true but most "football fans" r hype train attendants. They can't see who truly has NFL potential, they only see who r exciting in COLLEGE and think that automatically equates to NFL sucess.
It was kinda sad though. Literally like a week after he got injured, the AAF folded. So he went to Memphis, got overshadowed by Brandon Silvers, then got injured. His entire AAF career. Lol
Yep, as a big Browns fan I got to see all of this. When he got on the field, he actually looked fast. Not NFL cornerback fast, but fast enough to still make big plays on the ground. His velocity on passes was a little better than I thought it would be too. His problem was the not giving a shit about anything but 30 mins of fame. He also got dingged up pretty easy. He made mistakes too. Not a bunch of picks, but he would try to run around the end when there was no chance of him making it to the corner. He really did seem to think that he was going to turn the corner in the NFL like he did in college. He would have needed to work a lot harder to have a chance in the NFL. I never expected much from him when the Browns drafted him, but I wasn't against them taking the chance. I think there was a QB controversy with Bryan Hoyar too if my memory serves. Most Browns fans were very high on Hoyer because he went like 6-2 at one point in his starts and he was from Cleveland area. 6- 2 in QB starts in Cleveland is like Hall of Fame stuff since they came back in the league.
Tony Diego 25 he’s not spot on. He just vomits our all the same shit everyone else says. Repeats everything the pro Analysts say and millennials lap it up like he’s some kind of genius. If he was so spot on he would be working for ESPN. Enough said.
Kevin Webster Not sure who exactly you’re referring to, but I will say that in either case that is certifiably false. They go far more in-depth with why they have certain opinions about certain players. You don’t get the same attention to detail from the mainstream sports media as you do with these guys. There’s a reason they’re growing. And ESPN, for football, lol. I think you mean NFL Network, dude. Go find somewhere else to hate.
His head got too big. He forgot where he came from. He lost Focus. I guess he thought he was a rapper or something and just lost it. That's what happens when your ego gets too big
He shouldn't have failed in the CFL (however averagee he'd become) if he didn't get greedy when he heard of the AAF, threw his CFL team under the bus and made negotiations with the AAF which was a violation of his agreement with the CFL. He clearly is still making bad career decisions.
Zeekee Reen he was pretty awful up here man. He really hurt the NFLs reputation in Canada. Manziel might’ve been the worst QB I’ve seen in this league, probably ever. I can’t believe he was drafted, let alone a first rounder.
It’s sad that this guy wasted his career. He had so much talent and potential and if someone tried to use his athleticism and work with him he could’ve been something great.
I started watching you and strong opinion sports around this same time, the creation of this video and I still listen to zac and obv come back to watch ur videos all the time
this is the biggest reason scramble qbs that are massive stars im college dont transition well to the NFL, note have some legs to move is great but someone who prioritizes the scramble over ones arm and mind/reading abilities will generally fail in the NFL long term ( some can make it work but those are so far and few)
@C R i agree it's the same for all running qb's but Vick was also a decent size for someone with that speed and elusiveness especially after his jail time, but he was older at that point.
@@FatChedda lmao, u know im wondering if Manziel got drafted to another team, would he have had the same career or a different career? Its not like the Browns have a successful track record pf developing 1st round QBs...
You're gonna go far bro. This is quality analysis that points out some important facts that others haven't put together like you. Keep grinding my man💯
All his wild partying, endless lawbreaking, and his violent temper put him on the trajectory of failure in the end. Johnny has no one else to blame but himself.
Treveon Beauregard he didn’t have that much talent. At least not NFL talent. He made too many mistakes. Even his highlights he made major mistakes in throwing in traffic over the middle. He got bailed out by mike evens a lot in college.
@@14938399 I think he means that you should only scramble when necessary. For example, if the pocket collapses, no receivers are open, or there is just room to run.
Many of them r faster lol and NFL coaches do a great job of bring out the full potential of these world class athletes. Those r well coached intellegent lineman compared to novices of college
11:00 I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Japanese-American. I KNEW that Johnny Manziel would pan out!! Not just anybody gets to start at Texas A&M at QB. I have my BROWNS 2 MANZIEL, TEXAS A&M 2 MANZIEL, and MONTREAL ALOUETTES 2 MANZIEL jerseys.
@@alexandergilles8583 Manzeil is merely another bad QB choice that includes Couch, Detmer, Pederson, Wynn, Holcomb, McCown, Garcia, Frye, Dilfer, Anderson, Quinn, Dorsey, Gradkowski, McCoy, Delhomme, Wallace, Weeden, Lewis, Hoyer, and Campbell. The last good QB with the Browns was Brian Sipe and that was before the Browns died, became the Ravens and, was resurrected as the infernal destination for 1st round picks.
Personally I will always remember John Ball fondly for his many Peter Sellers moments. The episode when he absconded naughtily to Vegas wearing a false mustache is legendary to me. There should be a statue in his honor in Cleveland just for that alone. I want a Cohen Brothers movie about this event, I truly do.
darkbrisco Do you have any idea where Steve Young went to high school? Greenwich, Conn the highest income zip code in the US. Money doesn’t matter boundaries matter and Johnny Hack had non
@@bobbypaluga4346 Steve young cared. Point being Mr Football didn't. There's humble rich kids like Deion Sanders kids. But mostly there's Johnny Manziels out there.
The whole JM thing pissed me off because Hoyer was at least providing some stability and even some competent play compared to what we've been getting from most of the other QBs we've had since '99. They benched him because of three losses in a row (despite a 7-6 record at that point in the season) and put in JM who goes on to have a fabulous 2-8 career as a starter. Brilliant.
As a Bengals fan, I’m never confident before games, and I was thrilled when they benched Hoyer in week 15 because I knew we were going to run Manziel off the field. You guys had beaten us down earlier that year in Cincy, and I think if Hoyer had played, that game would’ve been more competitive
Other than not mentioning the years this all goes down for future viewing Id say this is a great video! My opinion add more dates to help flow the narrative. I know this is somewhat recent but someone like me would really like to pinpoint the dates. Appreciate it!
GangPardos No not really. While Baker has a lot of antics, he does it to be a leader and does it out of passion. He works hard and studies the game. He was never given anything as he had to walk on to Tech before going to OU. Baker, despite all of the extra shit he does, is a great an who is a hard worker, the 2 shouldn’t have ever been compared imo
@@drewfreeman8412 Also, I felt like OU had a better culture. It's like Texas A&M always had "little brother" status, so I wonder what would have happened if Manziel had gone to another school.
Baker has a better NFL head on his shoulders. He looks at all his passing options first then runs. Manziel did the opposite. Plus Baker studies other players and teams. He learned that at OU. Baker had great habits entering the NFL.
I'll have to admit that it was pleasing to see him fail. His "grubby little fingers" move showed what he really cared about. Money, partying and fame were more important to him than a bonafide career built on self-sacrifice.
I think he didn’t want to take the game seriously. Everyone that succeeds in the NFL it’s clear they’re focused on being the best they can be and put their game first.
dude i really enjoy your vids and channel! my favorite was the Bobby Petrino video! i love how u evaluate players with different possibilities for their downfall. please don’t be afraid to be bold and point out why an athlete Failed at their job. GREAT WORK!! Go Bills
Golly, I wonder if that has something to do with the Browns owner - the stuffed-shirt truck-stop billionaire who was so clueless and disconnected from his company that the feds declined to prosecute him because **they believed him when he said he didn't know what was going on**!
Good point Jarvis. Their problems include everyone involved with the team.They seem to be improving this year but time will tell if they really are.U think that they will have a meltdown before the end of the year.Baker is reality being helped by the run game but now that Chubb us out well see how things work out obj is quiet for now but it's early yet!Every thing is aok when you're winning but time will tell. I still think baker is over rated!
@@angelajohnson6659 I don't think Baker is overrated at all and I'm not even a Browns fan. He's a well-rounded QB that can run or throw the ball with incredible accuracy even under pressure. He just needs great receivers and O-Line to do it which I don't honestly think he has. Browns still have a lot of building to do offensively, but they at least have a great QB which is the hardest thing to find usually.
The Misunderstood Assassin more than likely would have sucked. You gotta remember, the top football organizations were picking up on Manziel style of play, as you saw when Bama eventually beat A&M by a touchdown.. imagine 2-3 years of that, and Manziel would have been figured out.
"But hey, you signed the top Center of that free agency class! Who then suffers a career ending injury on the first day of training camp. And he also got a staph infection"
Bobby Paluga as a Panthers fan I actually like Taysom Hill. The kid has got real promise and a bright future with the Saints after the old fart retires.
Well there are plenty of wealthy people with ambition, it all comes from how you are raised. Everyone calls him a spoiled brat, well who spoiled him, mommy & daddy perhaps...
Johnny watches the games now on a TV, and when KC plays, he says, "Patrick Mahomes, I could've been that guy! I play exactly the same way!" Except he doesn't.
If you had the chance to grab coffee & sit across the table from this guy, he would probably tell you he's happier now than he's ever been in his entire life.
"Success is not owned, it's leased and the RENT is due every day" - J.J. Watt of the Houston Texans
I don't think 'Johnny Football' understood this.
Thats why JJ is JJ and johnny is out of nfl!
jasona9 the hack never respected the game, never memorized a play book, never “really” passed a college class. He was lazy and unfocused with no behavioral boundaries. Football chews people up and spits them out if they fail to respect
Christ I love that quote thanks for putting me on
Kevin Prima you do know JJ used to be scrawny too right? He said so himself but he put in the work to change that. And besides they’re different positions. QBs don’t need to be near the weight or height of a DE
Kevin Prima imagine trying to say a QB’s muscle size has affect on their ability. Go look at Tom Brady’s, the absolute greatest quarterback of all time, combine. He was slow, out of shape, and even more scrawny than Manziel. He simply put in more work with things like Film, reading defenses, mastering playbooks, and even building solid working relationships with his receivers.
Football has a lot to do with raw physical talent but, that raw physical talent HAS TO be backed up by a passionate, hard working person. There’s plenty of people with the raw physical traits to be pro-athletes, most of them just simply don’t have the necessary drive.
That Alabama game was the Highlight of his career. I can see him 30 years from now, bragging about it drinking a beer.
and nobody giving a damn
unfortunately i doubt he will live that long ..no trying to be a dink and i hope iam wrong
Like Al Bundy he'll be selling shoes in the mall.
Chris614 he’s selling insurance now. Look up the commercial 😂😂😂
Pretty sure it will be the Heisman on top of that
Being a Professional means - working hard and doing a great job, even when you don't want to.
-Kelvin Benjamin
Well said Bill
Kinda like every other work for pay position anyone does.
- landscaper
- accountant
- salesman
- nfl quarterback
No matter the job, you have to work at it.
I'll extend that, work hard and do a great job, no matter what happens.
-Andrew Luck
STH uuî
"Don't get cocky kid" - Han Solo
He did
..............or you gonna find yourself floating home!!!"
@@dirt1736 The guy's maturity level rivaled Ryan Leaf's
“Don’t get penisy”
Peter Solo
He said " Great, kid. Dont get cocky."
It's funny. They said that Lamar Jackson's similar talent wouldn't translate to the NFL either but look at him now. It shows that if you put in the work, you can make professionals look like amateurs. Having a humble attitude is icing on the cake.
And Patrick Mahomes was considered too much of a gunslinger coming into the draft but clearly improved as he sat behind Alex Smith for his first year
niners did a very effective job against him,eventually he will have to rely on his arm and not his running.i hate the ravens but hes a humble dude
@@razorburns8651
It wasn't just the Niner's, the weather had lot to do with his containment. I would love to see that game played again in ideal weather. That would remove all doubt.
I'm a niners fan who just watched the highlights of ravens vs niners, that man is a generational talent!
@@BayAreaClownShow
He really is. As a Louisville fan, I watched him his entire college career and some of the stuff he did was feakin' amazing. His coming out party had to be his first bowl game as a freshman against Texas A&M. If you want to see that party, click here: th-cam.com/video/uV5-A9sd6DU/w-d-xo.html.
Keep in mind that he didn't even know the playbook during that game because his coach never used one in high school! He later would say in a interview that he didn't really know what most of his guys were doing on the field so he just winged it! Lol! By watching that game, you can easily see how raw he was and how much he's improved. You will also see why he went so late in the draft and why NFL coaches wanted him to change positions. But his mom made sure that he would be a QB at Louisville and the rest is history.
But the game that won him the Heisman had to be the Gameday thumping against Florida State. By that game, the entire nation was watching and teams knew what he could do. Even still, Louisville with Lamar Jackson hung more points on Florida State than any team has ever done in Florida State school history. THAT WAS A FUN GAME! I was lucky enough to be at both games and this Florida State game was as crazy as a college atmosphere as there ever was. If you want to be entertained, check it out here: th-cam.com/video/lhSZeBRaV3s/w-d-xo.html
Have a fun Saturday!
Once Manziel did that money gesture when he was drafted, I knew he was going to be a bust.
Life lesson: If the money is your focus, you will hate the job. If the job is your focus, you will enjoy the money.
Michael G the gesture was cringe AF.
Michael G I think he was referring to people calling him Money Manziel
That’s a dumb thing to say, money is what half these people are in it for
Michael G stfu. You didn’t know Jack shit
Michael G you do realize that the dude comes from a wealthy family right?
You know when Skip Bayless starts giving you praise your career is already over.
Skip loves SEC football he’s loved every big sec qb though the two best known ones is his love for Johnny and for Tebow. Imagine if Tebow had Johnny’s ability? He failed cause he didn’t care enough about on field gaming, if he had Tim’s lifestyle maybe he could had survived cause why Tim failed is he wasn’t talented enough to play really but you couldn’t question Tim’s character
Skip Bayless predicted Steph curry would b the best player from his draft
Oof, bad news for Kyler then
@@De_La_Soto welp this week hasn't really helped Kyler to prove he's good lol
Skip gets paid to say stupid shit sometimes, the NFL loves when they can over hype a marketable athlete and pull profits for a hot minute even though their talent level is really not there. I bet Kaep has been a freaking goldmine for only having low QB2 talent.
What Johnny Manziel did in college, Patrick Mahomes is doing it in the nfl.
facts
Yeah, much better.
Or Lamar Jackson
James Phillips mainly Lamar
Yeah and Aaron Rodgers or at least when Aaron was younger
I was partying in LA at the clubs around the same time he had just been drafted. Saw him a few times in the clubs living it up, getting drunk with the bottle service. Figured he would be a bust. Just way too into living the fast life vs. being a good QB in the NFL.
@Josean Thompson Unfortunately partying & being a successful long term NFL QB don't mix. Being a great NFL QB involves putting in the time to train, eat right, study film, etc. It's a 24 hr job for the years you are playing. Unfortunately too many players want to live it & love the partying more than the professional side of the NFL.
@@fanman71 you can if your a freak of nature like Gronk lolll
@@robjose5669Gronk partied a lot but he also put in the work and had the right attitude to get better and become an all time great
"He's like Brett Favre, on a motorcycle". Yeah, with no brakes and a wall in front of him.
David Perrier driving on an oily road after taking a few bumps
Best comment
More like Ben Rothelsburger on a motorcycle 🏍 - Crash and burn.
Legitimately laughed out loud.
You didn't have to do him like that but the man deserves it lol
Narrator: "Of all the fascinating downfall stories in the NFL, Manziel's is the most recent and most covered by the media."
Antonio Brown: "Hold my beer."
At least AB worked hard enough to become All Pro
And yet they're both equally unemployed. Maybe they can get together with Kaep and Terell Owens some day and play catch.
Ohh another hold my beer joke...ehhhh
😂😅😂😅😂😅
Webbit2019 would have been better if.....
AB: Watch me tweet!
From the Bible: "He who humbles himself will be exalted and he who exalts himself will be humbled." That sums up the Johnny Manziel story.
Truth.
Bible is fake, why would u ever take that shit to heart?
LMFAO🤣😅😭
Constable Dodo it’s fake but the teachings are truth cause that quote is definitely true
Ultra CNC make it make sense
@Ultra CNC It makes sense. It's a made up book but the lessons you can learn from the stories are real.
He'll never play in the NFL ever again. You only get one shot due to the amount of prospects entering the NFL year in year out.
- Truth
Truth, brother. Truth.
There's certainly a hell of a lot of traffic in front of him. Thank God that the Browns eventually got it right with Baker Mayfield, as much as I love Derek Carr both Mayfield and Rogers are prototypical franchise stars in my book.
He did had a glimmer of hope of getting back in the big show via the CFL, but even he fucked that up too. What an irresponsible punk.
Say "every year" not "year in year out" please
Exactly. I wouldn't even take that clown if he was FREE.
I love that you're shouting out StrongOpinion. two of my favorite channels
mikevismyelement they are brothers
Sandiegochargers85 lol really?
"Hard work beats talent, when talent does not work hard" - the real story of Johnny Football.
Jim did you miss the point? There are plenty of NFL Quarterbacks who are far more successful than him with less talent.
@Jim lmao bro imma work on a time machine to bring u back to the present
It all comes down to MINDSET.
Johnny and I had the same problem. Went from a full ride engineering scholarship to living on couches because I thought my natural abilities could get me through and instead spent my time getting drunk and high.
I hope he can make his comeback in the XFL and can conquer his demons. He could be one helluva talent.
I love seeing two of the most underrated, underseen football youtubers in the same video
Johnny Manziel "I don't know the X's and O's of football"
Every Cleveland Browns coach for the last 10 years "are you challenging me?"
He partied more than worked, didn't even work out for him in the CFL either.
Manzel's biggest curse was being over hyped yet under developed extremely early his career. He was allowed to get away with too many mistakes on the field in collage that didn't transfer well in the pros, all in all he was wildly undisciplined and under developed.
kindley fernand and being drafted to to the browns
It could be said that his college coaches failed him. instead of trying to instill some discipline and forcing hom to earn his spot they saw he could win in a spread offense with just his athleticism. And when he got to the Browns that wasn’t enough. Especially because he had 0 support on that sorry ass team.
kindley fernand That couldn’t have had less impact to his downfall. His downfall was based solely on his immaturity and his irresponsibility
@@70mjc People can still have a bad attitude and be good at what they do, he just wasn't ready
@@kindleyfernand4389 few seasons as a backup with a hard ass coach may have made the difference...take down his ego a few notches.
"Heavily relied on Mike Evans."
Pretty much that.
And his left tackle was also a top-2 draft pick too iirc?
2012, I was 16yo kid from indonesia, almost nobody here that watch american football. I was reading eyeshield 21 manga, then started to search and watch a some real games out of curiosity. That was how i stumbled upon the greatness of johnny manziel and instantly fell in love. Been watching nfl ever since, thank you johnny❤️
You can't read quit perping
Wow some people really that negative lmao🤦♂️
I think your story is great!-you had an open mind and now you have a new sport to love-bravo!-my late mother cooked the greatest rice table btw😎nasi bami saute...
@@WildanNoegraha meatheads man who have nothing in their minds out hearts worth shite. Check out college football its awesome, NFL is well oiled and smooth like a day of formula 1. College ball is dirt track racing, more chaotic and fun at times. I recommend becoming a Nebraska Cornhusker fan for the reason they are bringing a blend of new speed with old Hisker power. Have a good one Wildan.
I called him being a bust from the very beginning. Not just because of the immaturity, but for two other reasons: first, I felt he was undersized for a quarterback, and second....well, it's Cleveland.
Being drafted by the Browns did not ruin his career. Sure, the Browns are not a top tiered team by any stretch of the imagination, but the fact is that Manziel did not have what it takes to be an NFL quarterback, plain and simple. The NFL is not college football. Player's are drafted and are obligated and expected to train, study, and develop into their respective positions. Poor Johnny Foosball thought he was already trained, thought he knew the game, and thought he was developed enough to excel in the NFL.
CastleBravo Browns ruined there pocket pass QBs confidence since they had no weapons the rookie weren’t able to develop and adjust to the game Browns WRs were trash Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden and Johnny Manziel all victims
@@flashh6919 Quinn maybe, but Weeden and Manziel would've flopped anywhere they went. They just weren't any good.
@@Skopin Weeden was especially bad! He looked like a frightened moose about to get run over by a mack truck.
Being undersized maybe did have an affect on his failure but there are undersized QBs who made it despite being undersized like brees, flutie, Russell Wilson to prove that theory wrong...bottom line is it was straight up his style of play...playing every down like it was some playground ball with no sense of structure is what fucked him...he relied solely on his athleticism to try to make plays in the nfl and didn't give 2 shits about offensive schemes and concepts...just played by the seat of his pants and was cocky about it too so we saw how long that lasted
I remember this guy when he was Ryan Leaf.
"Johnny was always at his best when the play broke down":
That should've told you everything you needed to know, right there. The plays didn't just "broke down". They often "broke down" because he didn't have the quick thinking and Football IQ to go through his reads and play on anticipation.
Still hyped him to the Moon, though. Everyone did.
No not everyone hyped him up. Only idiots did.
@@xSoulRedemptioNx true but most "football fans" r hype train attendants. They can't see who truly has NFL potential, they only see who r exciting in COLLEGE and think that automatically equates to NFL sucess.
See Patrick Mahone (sp). Another one trick pony who's specialty is the ad lib
No I'm from ohio and a browns fan. Before this dudes first game I was already wanting him gone
@@kendallevans4079 Four years later and now look at Mahomes. Dominant. Stay quiet clown.
I have literally spent the past 2 months searching for a quality video on Johnny Football and well - here it is. Great work, as always!
The Jake Paul of Football
???? Manziel was real player in college, jake paul is a fuckin disneyboy wannabe bóxer.....
It was kinda cool seeing him play in the aaf for a second
Julian Shipp J.R. That was a literal second
RIP AAF
It was kinda sad though. Literally like a week after he got injured, the AAF folded. So he went to Memphis, got overshadowed by Brandon Silvers, then got injured. His entire AAF career. Lol
Nah, it wasn't.
I guess? Just more train wreckage.
Yep, as a big Browns fan I got to see all of this. When he got on the field, he actually looked fast. Not NFL cornerback fast, but fast enough to still make big plays on the ground. His velocity on passes was a little better than I thought it would be too. His problem was the not giving a shit about anything but 30 mins of fame. He also got dingged up pretty easy. He made mistakes too. Not a bunch of picks, but he would try to run around the end when there was no chance of him making it to the corner. He really did seem to think that he was going to turn the corner in the NFL like he did in college. He would have needed to work a lot harder to have a chance in the NFL. I never expected much from him when the Browns drafted him, but I wasn't against them taking the chance.
I think there was a QB controversy with Bryan Hoyar too if my memory serves. Most Browns fans were very high on Hoyer because he went like 6-2 at one point in his starts and he was from Cleveland area. 6- 2 in QB starts in Cleveland is like Hall of Fame stuff since they came back in the league.
It's crazy how different careers have had Manziel and Mike Evans.
Way to recognize S.O.S! I’ve been watching Shomler for some time now and he is truly spot on, as you are! You guys should do a colab one day!
Tony Diego 25 i was going to say the same exact thing. Colabs between the two best sports channels on TH-cam would be amazing!
Tony Diego 25 he’s not spot on. He just vomits our all the same shit everyone else says. Repeats everything the pro Analysts say and millennials lap it up like he’s some kind of genius. If he was so spot on he would be working for ESPN. Enough said.
Kevin Webster Not sure who exactly you’re referring to, but I will say that in either case that is certifiably false. They go far more in-depth with why they have certain opinions about certain players. You don’t get the same attention to detail from the mainstream sports media as you do with these guys. There’s a reason they’re growing. And ESPN, for football, lol. I think you mean NFL Network, dude. Go find somewhere else to hate.
Hard Work Beats Talent, When Talent doesn't work hard! True!!
His head got too big. He forgot where he came from. He lost Focus. I guess he thought he was a rapper or something and just lost it. That's what happens when your ego gets too big
He seems like an egotistical asshole who got what he deserved...what a waste!
T K we’d all become egotistical assholes if we won the heisman freshmen year and told by everyone that we were the greatest player in the game
Sho Tohara there are no other freshmen heisman winners
He thought the CFL was gonna be a pushover, turned out he couldn't play there either.
A lot of NFL players think playing in the CFL is a walk in the park. Many even get cut at training camp.
Manziel failed in the CFL (even with a wider & longer field) for the same reasons in Pro ball. He wasn't good at X's & O's.
He shouldn't have failed in the CFL (however averagee he'd become) if he didn't get greedy when he heard of the AAF, threw his CFL team under the bus and made negotiations with the AAF which was a violation of his agreement with the CFL. He clearly is still making bad career decisions.
How is the CFLs following in Canada?
Zeekee Reen he was pretty awful up here man. He really hurt the NFLs reputation in Canada. Manziel might’ve been the worst QB I’ve seen in this league, probably ever. I can’t believe he was drafted, let alone a first rounder.
Failed in the NFL, Failed in the CFL, Failed with AAF.......... Johnny Failed Football
maybe he can play pee wee football lmao
Johnny Football got picked off AND kicked in the head by ONE guy on the same play. He was seeing stars THAT day.
Johnny Flunked Football because he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
But, he won the Heisman as a FRESHMAN!!
The aaf wasn’t his fault
It’s sad that this guy wasted his career.
He had so much talent and potential and if someone tried to use his athleticism and work with him he could’ve been something great.
When the cfl bands you from the league completely you know your done for
Were you trying to say “bans” ?
LuckyDT yes yes I was. It also appears I used the wrong “you’re” as well. I must of been in rough shape when watching this video haha
snc237 Fair enough 👍
Don't worry. Chakhra Khan will fix your sign for you.
@Neil Fitzsimons you sir are correct... I am the worst
hard work and tenacity something Johnny didn't want any part of because it cut into his partying life...
I started watching you and strong opinion sports around this same time, the creation of this video and I still listen to zac and obv come back to watch ur videos all the time
Yeah he did all that in college until he got to the NFL where linebackers are as fast as rb's and wr's in college.
this is the biggest reason scramble qbs that are massive stars im college dont transition well to the NFL, note have some legs to move is great but someone who prioritizes the scramble over ones arm and mind/reading abilities will generally fail in the NFL long term ( some can make it work but those are so far and few)
@C R i agree it's the same for all running qb's but Vick was also a decent size for someone with that speed and elusiveness especially after his jail time, but he was older at that point.
College you can be better than anyone. NFL everyone is better than you
His behavior off the field would have been acceptable if he delivered wins and playoff appearances....
Facts....
Nah, if you aren’t a team player, doesn’t matter how good you are, you’re shit.
He was on the pre Stefanski Browns. Brady couldn't have taken the 2014 or 2015 Browns to the playoffs.
@@FatChedda lmao, u know im wondering if Manziel got drafted to another team, would he have had the same career or a different career? Its not like the Browns have a successful track record pf developing 1st round QBs...
He didn't have time!
He was too used to having things handed to him. HS and college would bow to daddy's money, but not the NFL.
His problem was being a spoiled brat with zero character.
I know. He was, and never will be, hungry!
Do browns fans even know he exists anymore cause of Mayfield
@Fatty Matty this didnt age well
@Fatty Matty I am a browns fan. Let's just hop they step it up
@Fatty Matty Still not aged well.
You're gonna go far bro. This is quality analysis that points out some important facts that others haven't put together like you. Keep grinding my man💯
In terms of focus, dedication, and hard work ... "Johnny Football" is the *exact opposite* of Tom Brady.
All of that talent...
Straight down the Drain
He's a talent as flag football player
All his wild partying, endless lawbreaking, and his violent temper put him on the trajectory of failure in the end. Johnny has no one else to blame but himself.
Tw1 well he wasn’t nfl ready but if he really tried he could’ve. he had the talent to
@Tw1 You didn't see him in preseason for the Browns before cement head Pettine ruined him.
Treveon Beauregard he didn’t have that much talent. At least not NFL talent. He made too many mistakes. Even his highlights he made major mistakes in throwing in traffic over the middle. He got bailed out by mike evens a lot in college.
Johnny Manziel FAILED because he's a complete PUNK! He also found out that there are NFL Lineman were just as fast as he was, if not faster.
Unless you're a Michael Vick, stay in the pocket and keep your scrambling to a minimum.
Robert Dore Aaron Rodgers? Cam Newton? Russel Wilson? There are plenty of other examples bro ain’t just Vick
@@14938399 I think he means that you should only scramble when necessary. For example, if the pocket collapses, no receivers are open, or there is just room to run.
His family is worth about 50 million. He doesn't need money. He could careless
Many of them r faster lol and NFL coaches do a great job of bring out the full potential of these world class athletes. Those r well coached intellegent lineman compared to novices of college
11:00 I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Japanese-American. I KNEW that Johnny Manziel would pan out!! Not just anybody gets to start at Texas A&M at QB. I have my BROWNS 2 MANZIEL, TEXAS A&M 2 MANZIEL, and MONTREAL ALOUETTES 2 MANZIEL jerseys.
How have you not blown up by now? This stuff is SO good and entertaining.
Srivatsav Yaddanapudi agreed! Very consistent high quality content!
"He was drafted by the dumpster fire of the League" lmao
Carson is better than Dak Well not with his dislocated knee
Your username is dumb asf lol
The Cleveland Curse: any QB drafted high by the Browns will be completely ruined. Getting drafted there isn't an honor. It is career death.
James Savik Manziel was never going to succeed in the NFL
@@alexandergilles8583 Manzeil is merely another bad QB choice that includes Couch, Detmer, Pederson, Wynn, Holcomb, McCown, Garcia, Frye, Dilfer, Anderson, Quinn, Dorsey, Gradkowski, McCoy, Delhomme, Wallace, Weeden, Lewis, Hoyer, and Campbell. The last good QB with the Browns was Brian Sipe and that was before the Browns died, became the Ravens and, was resurrected as the infernal destination for 1st round picks.
Personally I will always remember John Ball fondly for his many Peter Sellers moments. The episode when he absconded naughtily to Vegas wearing a false mustache is legendary to me. There should be a statue in his honor in Cleveland just for that alone. I want a Cohen Brothers movie about this event, I truly do.
He was drafted by the appropriate team
In all fairness, his family was very wealthy before he even got to college. Football was a hobby for him. Not passion.
makes sense. rich kids give no fucks.
Rich parents doesn't necessarily mean "rich kid".
@@senecanicholson1090 is there anything in his character that implies he wasn't a "rich kid"?
darkbrisco Do you have any idea where Steve Young went to high school? Greenwich, Conn the highest income zip code in the US. Money doesn’t matter boundaries matter and Johnny Hack had non
@@bobbypaluga4346 Steve young cared. Point being Mr Football didn't. There's humble rich kids like Deion Sanders kids. But mostly there's Johnny Manziels out there.
When someone shows you who they are...believe them.
He has the the Emotional Intelligence of a 13 year old girl on Ritalin needing constant attention..
Lol
Keep up ur amazing content, STE 🔥👌🏼
Quite simple actually: he was a privileged drunk...
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His game wasn't going to translate to the nfl
This is one of the most well put together mini-doctumentarys I have seen in recent memory. 👌👌
The whole JM thing pissed me off because Hoyer was at least providing some stability and even some competent play compared to what we've been getting from most of the other QBs we've had since '99. They benched him because of three losses in a row (despite a 7-6 record at that point in the season) and put in JM who goes on to have a fabulous 2-8 career as a starter. Brilliant.
As a Bengals fan, I’m never confident before games, and I was thrilled when they benched Hoyer in week 15 because I knew we were going to run Manziel off the field. You guys had beaten us down earlier that year in Cincy, and I think if Hoyer had played, that game would’ve been more competitive
Everything was peaceful in the Browns locker room
And it all changed when the weed nation attacked
😂
You mean the WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDUH
Other than not mentioning the years this all goes down for future viewing Id say this is a great video! My opinion add more dates to help flow the narrative. I know this is somewhat recent but someone like me would really like to pinpoint the dates. Appreciate it!
Can we just stop and admire the perfectly executed block by the RB at 8:03
So in other words Baker Mayfield is what Johnhy Manziel could have become
They're not similar at all really
GangPardos No not really. While Baker has a lot of antics, he does it to be a leader and does it out of passion. He works hard and studies the game. He was never given anything as he had to walk on to Tech before going to OU. Baker, despite all of the extra shit he does, is a great an who is a hard worker, the 2 shouldn’t have ever been compared imo
Baker has a way better arm.
@@drewfreeman8412 Also, I felt like OU had a better culture. It's like Texas A&M always had "little brother" status, so I wonder what would have happened if Manziel had gone to another school.
Baker has a better NFL head on his shoulders. He looks at all his passing options first then runs. Manziel did the opposite. Plus Baker studies other players and teams. He learned that at OU. Baker had great habits entering the NFL.
“Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard” As simple as that phrase
Johnny Manziel: I'm not going to change for anybody.
NFL: You're fired.
Johnny Manziel: :(
Johnny Manziel: *complains to his dad*
NFL=not for long ✌🏻
I'll have to admit that it was pleasing to see him fail. His "grubby little fingers" move showed what he really cared about. Money, partying and fame were more important to him than a bonafide career built on self-sacrifice.
the media had more doubts about lamar jackson than this goofy showman qb
I think he didn’t want to take the game seriously. Everyone that succeeds in the NFL it’s clear they’re focused on being the best they can be and put their game first.
dude i really enjoy your vids and channel! my favorite was the Bobby Petrino video! i love how u evaluate players with different possibilities for their downfall. please don’t be afraid to be bold and point out why an athlete Failed at their job. GREAT WORK!! Go Bills
The browns have a history of selecting busts and players with character problems.
It's a downward spiral of getting worse then only being able to get worse things. Then you get Sashi Brown/Hue Jackson and 1-31.
Golly, I wonder if that has something to do with the Browns owner - the stuffed-shirt truck-stop billionaire who was so clueless and disconnected from his company that the feds declined to prosecute him because **they believed him when he said he didn't know what was going on**!
Good point Jarvis. Their problems include everyone involved with the team.They seem to be improving this year but time will tell if they really are.U think that they will have a meltdown before the end of the year.Baker is reality being helped by the run game but now that Chubb us out well see how things work out obj is quiet for now but it's early yet!Every thing is aok when you're winning but time will tell. I still think baker is over rated!
@@angelajohnson6659 I don't think Baker is overrated at all and I'm not even a Browns fan. He's a well-rounded QB that can run or throw the ball with incredible accuracy even under pressure. He just needs great receivers and O-Line to do it which I don't honestly think he has. Browns still have a lot of building to do offensively, but they at least have a great QB which is the hardest thing to find usually.
@@YouOnlyIiveTwice I agree he isn’t a all pro level but he is still serviceable and decent
Oh, a Johnny Manziel video. Bear with me a sec as I get the airhorns.
You just cannot feel sorry for this dude. He did give us great moments failing so hard while being so arrogant.
Love ur vids, look forward to them every week
You put up excellent content. Thank you so much for your work.
I think you blew up cause you're another great sports historian like KTO, Brett Kollmann, FlemLo Raps. Quality content.
I've always wondered how Johnny Manziel's career would've turned out if he had stayed at A&M for 3-4 years.
Without mike evans? Bad
The Misunderstood Assassin more than likely would have sucked. You gotta remember, the top football organizations were picking up on Manziel style of play, as you saw when Bama eventually beat A&M by a touchdown.. imagine 2-3 years of that, and Manziel would have been figured out.
He can try truck driving. He can weave in and out of traffic and make some money.😈
Reminds me of Brian Bosworth. Great in college but not able to flourish in the grown up world of the NFL where everyone was a star somewhere
The reason Johnny Manziel failed in the NFL is he wasn't good enough for the pros and had no discipline to get any better.
also failed in the CFL lol then pretty much got banned when he failed a steriod drug test lol
Not True! Could have been HOF'er......
These vids are incredible well done and insightful. Loving them. New sub from Denmark.
LOVE your videos dude. Been watching all of them this late Sunday evening, just awesome work. Keep it up.
I love how you mentioned "Strong Opinion Sports", Zach really makes good content, y'all should check him out!
Strong Opinion Sports is awesome! Highly recommend
It's really a sad story of what Johnny could have been. But he didn't want it bad enough to work for it.
From college hero to professional zero.
Good call out to Zac Shomler’s excellent analysis.
He showed up drunk for the game he was supposed to start.
Latrisha Bell wait really
well said, love!
❤️🇦🇺🐛🐨🏉🐢🦘🇦🇺💙
Jackson Cude yes. (Sorry for bad English)
Source?
I read it in tbe Cleveland plain dealer. You can also google it
I love how there is this detailed introspective, as if the inner workings of a bro are so nuanced. He’s a bro. Mystery solved lol.
“The dumpster fire of the league”comment instantly made me think of Norm Macdonald! Good stuff
" The staph infection known as 'Johnny Football' *AIRHORN* "
-Urinating Tree 2016
A fellow fan of the Tree?
It kinda works because he infected the Browns staff, but it’s a staph infection fwiw
"But hey, you signed the top Center of that free agency class! Who then suffers a career ending injury on the first day of training camp. And he also got a staph infection"
Low Tier Trash “AIRHORN NOISE”
He will always be known as Johnny Saturday.
Man, you narrate excellently.
Your channel’s quality is close to SB Nation’s and I appreciate that.
Also: imagine the millions of people who have useless Manziel jerseys.
Justin Last Hahahaha, the nba draft definitely sells more useless clothes than Kanye west
Door mats to wipe your feet on.
You know your life is going great when you're a joke by 22. WTG, kid!
Hahaha. Sorry Skip.
@Dez Skip Bayless
skiiiiuuuuuuupppp
I love the story of Johnny Football, couldn't happen to a better person.
In short, he was the polar opposite of Tom Brady.
Yeah, played and drafted by the wrong team.
Listening to a Brady interview is better than 20 sleeping pills...BORING!
kesayo or Taysom Hall, the ultimate, I’ll do what the team needs coach, guy. Faster at 4.4 and bigger at 6-2, 235 lbs, than Manziel
what - johnny didn't cheat?
Bobby Paluga as a Panthers fan I actually like Taysom Hill. The kid has got real promise and a bright future with the Saints after the old fart retires.
Great vid. This really breaks it down as to what went wrong with his career. Interesting story.
Nice shout out to Zach. He definitely has great content as well.
Manziel didnt have that fire in him. He came from a wealthy family.
@Nick Mougros: Has this been confirmed ?
al dixon his parents have a net worth of over $50 million, you can google it
Well there are plenty of wealthy people with ambition, it all comes from how you are raised. Everyone calls him a spoiled brat, well who spoiled him, mommy & daddy perhaps...
Mahomes also comes from a wealthy family, stop being attacking people for being successful you pleb.
LMFAO 💯😂🤣😅😭🥳🤯😭😅
Constable Dodo cringe
Johnny watches the games now on a TV, and when KC plays, he says, "Patrick Mahomes, I could've been that guy! I play exactly the same way!" Except he doesn't.
If you had the chance to grab coffee & sit across the table from this guy, he would probably tell you he's happier now than he's ever been in his entire life.
When he came to the CFL I had high hopes--but despite what he said--he did not respect the league or the players and he pissed off a lot of people