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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มี.ค. 2023
- Is OLED the king of monitor panels or does it still make sense to buy an IPS or VA monitor? Let's see how these monitors compare for gaming, content consumption and productivity.
Monitors shown in this video:
OLED (LG 27GR95QE-B):
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IPS (Alienware AW2723DF):
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🎥 • Alienware AW2723DF Rev...
VA (Philips 27M2C5500W):
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QD-OLED (Philips 34M2C8600):
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Basically ,we need to have at least 2 monitors. An IPS for daytime use and productivity , and an OLED for dark room gaming /movies.
Problem solved! :V
if u have money for oled monitor you probably already have something before
@@helloitsme327 I still have my plasma for movies, and the black frame insertion feature on my ips is much better than OLED , at the same brightness. I'm only missing out on HDR, and im fine without it.
That’s what I have, but honestly when it comes to gaming, I rarely appreciate the color/contrast that Oled offers. I’m sure it depends on the game and content you have on, but IPS is still very good in terms of picture quality.
@@sogetsu60
What's your ips monitor?
An OLED display with a glossy screen, 4k resolution and enough PPI makes games look like the images of those games on CD cases and magazines. IT'S SHARP AND COLORFUL. Can't wait to see this tech mature.
on 10:22 its awful with ambient light on qd oled with glossy finish....way better is semi mate coating like 27GR95QE
@@iDexy88 unlucky for those who use lights. I don't.
Lg 27gr95qe is 1440p 240hz and 2160p 120hz monitor.
Fine taste
I have the lg and it already does this. Especially if you run it in 4k mode.
The reason why i chose IPS even for gaming is the fact thag i have a 10 year old full HD IPS tv that is still going strong. The tech have matured and proven itself to be reliable.
I support! Similar story!
I need to buy an IPS glossy display for my photo/video editing. Any suggestions?
Yeah , it’s clear you don’t have an oled.
Once you try oled , there’s no going back.
I had a very high end IPS panel (Samsung odyssey neo g7) before getting my LG c3 42 ad a pc monitor.
I planed to use the G7 as a second monitor.
I sold it , I can’t even look at it now
I just see blooming and poor contrast now.
@lawyerlawyer1215 i do not need an old TV to know how good pled is in terms of visual esthetics. I could just stream my PC games to my oled android tablet is enough to show how gorgeous it looked. However, I would rather have my living room TV to have better longevity and a better idiot proofnes.
@@lawyerlawyer1215My solution is to never use an OLED screen 😂. Once I saw a 144Hz screen I could go back to 60Hz. Once I tried IPS I couldn't go back to TN. Once I tried 4K I couldn't go back to 1080p. So yeah, my solution is to never lay my eyes upon a 4K oled monitor 😂😂😂😂. I can't desire what I haven't seen.
This was a great watch - structuring, pacing, and B-roll were just incredibly well executed. Well done!
You have some of the best comparison shots I've seen in a video like this. Great work!
Nice video, I appreciate the out of focus simulations showcasing the color fringing, that was helpful. Hopefully the 4K monitor sized panels come out sooner than later, so the non standard pixel layouts are less of an issue.
IPS has the same black level of VA you can see it in the second 0:01 IPS is far superior to the VA, IPS has accurate color and vibrant
Yes...we know you're using an IPS monitor chill chill uwu
thank you for the thorough explanation. i’m researching what monitor to go for next, and this helps quite a bit 👍🏻
This is one of the best videos i have seen that explains EXACTLY what i was looking for. thank you!
Great video. Really nicely explained differences with great examples to show what the differences really look like. :)
The most complete, concise, well written and presenting videos! I have watched too many to care and just wanted to make sure I got the best monitor for me. Now I know, thank you!
What did u get at the end?
Great videos, best explaining the real advantages and disadvantages of those panel technologies. Thx for the job done.
Very cool, straight forward comparison test, thank you for making it👍
I came here to know if I should get a VA or IPS panel, and left wanting to spend my lifesavings to get the best OLED one. Oh shit.
A lot of people have made videos on this topic but I could never see the difference in videos, but your side by side comparison captures the difference really well.
The difference in black levels shown is a bit misleading though. While it may reflect the objective difference, the black levels one perceives subjectively from an IPS panel are just fine. Turn on a small, faint background light in your room and this will do wonders for perceived black levels and contrast.
very nice, i love that you tested the monitors side by side whilst gaming!
Thank you for your videos! They are well-made and informative
I just had a QD-OLED for a few days. The color fringing on text is a serious issue in my opinion, I genuinely gave me a headache. Also if you play games with a lot of text it is also pretty bad.
The annoying thing is that this issue is actually fixable in principal. MacType on Windows which uses the Freetype rendering which is the default for Linux, can actually ‚adjust‘ the cleartype rendering tech for different subpixel layouts.
The problem is though that you can only change the system rendering for system application. Things like browsers, games, MS office and so on can and do render text without system calls, ie they do it in a ‚backed in‘ manner. So you loose this subpixel fine control.
Why applications even decide to render text themself is extremely strange to me, its even worse that they can‘t grab these system settings because they are not yet considered standard, its just extremely stupid and weird.
Anyway, the only other solutions are either conventional RGB subpixel layouts which I do not know if thats even possible, much higher pixel densities so you can‘t perceive subpixels anymore, or the monitors get some kind of on-the-fly processing for sharp edges (like text). I am honestly kinda surprised this isn‘t already a thing. One would think designing a signal processor for this should not be too dificult and these monitors are really expensive, so its definitely in the budget.
We've already reached peak IPS/VA design when it took over CRT around 20 years ago. In the beginning it was a blur fiesta but here we're today 360hz blur free. The next gen OLED/MicroLED is not quite there yet. But none of us are getting any younger!
indeed, back in the early days I just treat it s enbeded motion blur.
Also, your videos rock. Well organized, well researched, clear, concise yet informative, chock full of visuals, and presented well. Subbed! I foresee a great future for your channel!
Went into this not knowing anything about displays and the most basic understanding of pixels. Now I can confidently decide the best monitor for how I use my setup. Thank you
I would love to switch to an oled, but I think the problem right now for us is price. We put that money into my new build a year and a half ago, so we have a more low-mid range budget on the monitor. Half the cost of my build went to a Asus 3080 strix during the shortage crisis.
I was an art major in college. I get super ocd on color accuracy too. And I need more contrast on my next monitor. Games like lotro, eso, and skyrim are hard to see at night or in caves and dungeons. So I keep the room completly dark all day to compensate.
for me it's burn in. I just don't see how an oled panel is appropriate for a computer panel
Nice video, it's still up for debate which monitor tech is best - probably still in that annoying situation where you'd really want 2 or 3 different screens for doing everything - although that obviously isn't really a possibility. I think I'm going to stick it out with my IPS for a while, and maybe assess the situation with OLED (or micro LED by then) in a couple of years
smart considering burn in
yeah im very happy with my Samsung G7 in general, allthough I do admit that im very intrigued by OLED, that being said, Ive heard that they are workin on improving OLED and the functions in the new gaming OLED monitors (LG, Asus etc) that wont be available until maybe 2025, so I will aim to get one by then!
no debate, IPS for daytime use and productivity , and an OLED for dark room gaming /movies.
@@armorgiraffemy last samsung monitor finally went out and im stuck between the g7 or a VA omen monitor. I dont see enough on the wider omens (32-34 inch curved) but my issue with the g7 is the space it takes up on my desk whereas the omens offer great specs and dont take up as much space.
@@LamaKING21OLED? How long did you have it for before it died?
This is by far the best review ever. Amazing explanation!! Awesome content!
Very detailed and interesting video. Thanks for your work!
Any chance we can get our hands on a collection of these super pretty wallpapers you always manage to find?
Not that I didn’t know what you showed but an excellent video nevertheless. A comparison of OLED and IPS/VA miniLED would be most welcome. Very solid work!
Finally. The clearest definition of the difference between them. Much thanks❤
Wow I learned so much!! thank you for this video
I'm watching this video on a TN monitor but I can still tell how contrasty and rich the colors are on the OLED
best ips is nowhere near oled
I got an LG C1 OLED TV as a PC monitor. It offers free sync and g-sync and game modes for fast response times. Love it. Also I wanted a glossy monitor which you re mostly unable to find as a regular PC monitor anymore. 🙂
Thank you, insanely helpful!
I hope they create the ultimate monitor type one day that will have all the best sides of OLED and IPS and VA monitors in it
I think they have to improve the mini-led technology
Unlike my tv or my cellphone, I actually think burn in would be a bigger issue with a monitor at least in my case. I spend way too much time on Football Manager
So far the best video i have seen on this topic.
Very well explained. Awesome video 🎉🎉
This is great information as I was curious about your take. I have been using 1440p IPS & VA monitors for years and was very happy with those. I did just buy an Alienware AW3821DW (IPS 38" 3840x1600) as I wanted vertical space along with horizontal space. it was a great deal on sale for $899.99 IMO and won't impact performance of my system as much as full 4K would. The Alienware AW3423DWF QD-OLED is supposed to be the greatest thing currently, but there is no additional vertical height and I cannot handle the screen prompt for a "pixel refresh every 4hrs" to prevent burn-in (ridiculous and kills usability). I might have waited for the ASUS PG38UQ (IPS 4K 38" but oh well) this probably is the REAL sweet spot for usability IMO (productivity and gaming). What I am really waiting for is a uLED 38" monitor which should fix all of the monitor shortcomings!
I also just picked up the AW3423DWF on the $899 deal. You can change the pixel refresh to happen when the system goes into standby mode
I have alienwares QDOLED with thousands of hours and I rarely see that prompt. When I turn off the monitor the power button flashes green and refreshes automatically. Once in a blue moon I’ll see the prompt you’re talking about and I just ignore it then activate it when I’m done using it and it’ll flash red for an hour. Doesn’t kill usability at all like you say. You can also disable the prompt from appearing
This video settled it for me, Im sticking with upgrading my 1080p to 2K VA panel from AOC same brand, I work mostly as systems administrator and programming in daily use, gaming is absolutely minimal, although I am upgrading my system to a beast so I can have some fun here and there i.e Doom Eternal type single player fun but it can't justify the OLED over my daily use, good review, got a subscriber in me.
Have you upgraded yet brother? 😃
@@Juno006 i will admit I ended with 2k AOC and 2k Dell Alienware in my final setup after multiple reviews regarding the OLED for my main screen. It works for me.. the 1080p remains a atatic portrait screen :)
@@67steinip ooh not bad not bad, I'm still stuck on what to get as my main, the OLED reviews I've seen plus the fact that I couldn't find a single 32 inch 4k OLED 144 hz monitor
@@Juno006 yeah i thought I cudnt get use to the 34 how irs not same height but i managed to sort of get use to it by raising it up to a certain height to the left monitor. Honestly though, id prefer center 2k 144-160hz 32 inch OLED or VA but Ive gotten use to this so Im good.. it pained be a bit the loss of symmetry.. its 1800R while left is 1500R and same goes for portrait one. But Its not as much issue as I thought it might be.. I more or less made sure they fit for their respective needs gap or not.. then use a software that has made sure most movements are smooth and alignment.. pop off screen here pop in here more accurate than basic windows software.. overall happy.. there is always gonna be something u wish was slightly better.. nothing is perfect u just gottah go for it because otherwise ull be in monitor hell through 2024.. good luck :)
@@67steinip monitor hell 😂 yes I can relate to that 😂😂, thanks and you have a great rest of your life man
You are a lifesaver man, thank you for creating such thorough and informational content!
This is a brilliant and helpful video 👏🏼
i bought the ASUS VG27AQ after watching one of your videos. Its a 27 inc 1440p IPS monitor. I have to say, i love watching movies or playing games at night. There is definitely back light and i understand if that bothers high end users. But for a regular 5-10 hour gamer per day who games as a hobby, i dont mind this at all. I was going to buy a VA minitor since they look very good but afterall decided for an IPS since i watch games in awkward positions.
IPS is garbage the contrast is straight out junk and the bleeding is disgusting too. Its the shittest of the 3
I have a uled va panel with 600ish local dimming zones and quantum pixels and its about as good as any oled I've seen lately. A tiny bit of bloom around very bright text on a black background like movie credits but for everything else its top notch. Certainly cost about half the price of a similarly sized oled.
What model are you using if you don't mind sharing?
@@steveteow5720 Hisense U8K. With a bit of calibration it will get near oled black levels with almost no black crush on dimly lit areas. The U8H(last years) is a bit cheaper for nearly the same visual quality but doesn't sport the Pentonic DolbyVision HDR 120hz chipset which up to now was an LG exclusive. 55" is VA and the larger sizes are IPS. The 55" VA panel is a bit better on response time and colors so is more suited as a console/pc gaming display. The larger sizes are going to be for those wishing to watch high quality streaming or video player content. A warning. These tv do not do well with low quality content and you will be disappointed if you are trying to mostly watch cable channels or other sub 1080p content. Pick a cheaper tv that caters to those inputs. But for high end video and console/pc use this tv is a no brainer purchase.
Yeh Samsung qn90a here 50 inch as a main monitor here and I really like it, however sometimes I miss black levels of oled I think. It is amazing in bright HDR scenes ofc.
Thank you so much for explaining. Helps me really to make a purchase decision.
Incredibly helpful video!
An advantage that you didn't mention about IPS is that it has a wider viewing angle vs. VA. So if you have a wide seating arrangement, and on a budget, you may end up purchasing an IPS based TV.
Depends on a VA, some of them look nearly identical from any angle. I can see some colour inaccuracy when changing vertical angle on mine, but horizontally picture does not change except for some very small backlight bleed maybe.
IPS is trash
@@xerxeslv
Agreed.
I bought a sony TV which I thought was an IPS because it has a wide viewing angle as I look at it from different angles while in the store.
When I mounted it at home, the wide viewing angle is still there but I noticed that its black level is more beautiful than my other IPS monitors.
After further research Ive learned that it was actually a VA panel that has a wide viewing angle.
@@guldanhamtaro Yep, that's why I have VA, like I dunno why for so many people colour accuracy is so important when they don't do photo/movie related work using the panel. For me deep blacks do much more than some accuracy that I will not notice anyways, my VA is wide gamut also so I can shoose from presets for different games or other media. And with brightness on max in wide gamut mode with saturated colours and deep blacks my panel looks kinda similar to oled display of the smartphone.
It's not the same obviously, but as a cheap alternative to oled and without burnin problems... i dunno, can't get why people are buying ips with typical low contrast.
I guess some VA panels could have more innacuracy from angle, but I am always looking straight at 90⁰ and the panel is curved so good colours from sides. I guess older VA panels would usually have more problems may be, low response time, smearing and stuff? Like after trying VA I would only go after oled, not ips...
As a casual FPS/Racing gamer and pretty big media consumer I recently switched from my 32” LG IPS gaming monitor for a 42” LG C2 OLED TV and I have no regrets, the little bit of effort to stop burn-in is worth having the AMAZING movie experience.
I have C2, but it's just too big for office use. I put it now in my living room only for TV use.
the LG woleds dont have burn in issues (yet)
@@bjorn1583 I never said they did, but being proactive about it will further reduce the likelihood of burn-in on my TV.
@@ShawnStrickland the LG does it every time you turn them off so no need to do it yourself unless you dont turn it off
@@bjorn1583 pixel shift, logo brightness dimming is run when the monitor is off?? Pixel cleaning is only 1 burn-in protection
Excellent video covering pros and cons of all 3 panel tech.
Thanks for the video, really helped me decide what to buy, I'm going with ips for my use case as a software developer that reads code.
if OLED can ever really address the burn in issues, and mitigate or prevent them, I'd totally get one. That's the ONE THING that I'm worried about. Everything else I could work with.
yeah, don't like the idea of having a monitor which is slowly dying regardless of how well you babysit it, sticking with IPS
LG C2 make good monitors big but they don't burn in
Younger person that never used CRT? Guessing so. CRT burned in BADLY, OLED can burn in if you're stupid. But if you use monitor hibernation and a screen saver, it's just not going to happen outside of some edge cases of someone running a high-contrast application. Like, literally black and white for MANY hours. Spreadsheets come to mind.
Edit: Tube TV's burned in badly, too. And Plasma. 'Magine Dat!
@@MrAcuta73 I used to use crt for like 8 years xD, that's why I'm scared I guess lol
@@Harctwo I have a 65" WOLED TV. Not even the slightest worry about burn in. My girlfriend will fall asleep and leave it in menus all night. Thankfully not too often. Pixel repair in LG panels works wonders, I have to assume Samsung QD-OLED and other panels are similar.
I just wish CRT had the same functions, and it's safe to say those functions will continue to improve over time.
I’ll adopt oled in a few years. I’m enjoying my dual monitor set up. Got the acer predator 240 hertz 27 inch monitors with my 13900k and 4090.
Same with me. OLED is a new a tech, so it still has issues and costs a lot. In a few years price will drop by half and most of the issues will be fixed
@@Noname-iq1gz I just ordered an OLED monitor lol a lot changes in one year
@@STKReacts hahaha that’s great. OLED screens are very beautiful but they are too expensive for me. Your rig is my dream, must be awesome to be able to play every game you want on highest graphics and resolution
@@Noname-iq1gz The sad thing is I find myself playing League Of Legends 99% of the time LMFAOOOOOOO
@@STKReacts that’s a shit game no offense
This video distilled the differences betweek techs in a very well-presented and digestible manner!
What a great explanation! Thanks!
Waiting for Mini LED vs OLED video as I don't think OLED is perfect specially in video processing
I was considering buying a OLED screen in the future, but I have to say that my IPS Monitor looks like 10 times better than yours in the video. At first I had a bit backlight bleeding, but after some weeks it was completely gone. I have an LG Ultragear 27GL850-B, changed some colour settings, reduced the brightness a bit and this panel just looks so amazing.
I recently bought the MSI G274QPF at Costco for 220 bucks which is an insane steal for a gaming monitor! 1440p resolution, 170hz refresh rate, Wide Color Gamete, Rapid IPS panel, 27 inch which is the sweet spot screen size for my desk setup and has more connection ports ! And was very satisfied as my early Christmas present!
Hey would you mind telling us which settings helped your monitor to look better, mine arrives on Thursday and i don't want it to look bad. Thanks in advance
@@kevan4259 depends on your setup. If you're primarily playing in a dimly lit room like I am, you want to turn up the contrast. In a completely dark room maybe turn down the brightness as well, and further increase the contrast just a bit. This will reduce the IPS problem of having poor contrast and displaying very grey blacks. I'm still running an ancient LG 34UC79G-B which I got around 5 years ago, and I left my settings at 50 brightness and 60 contrast. I have quite a bad case of blacklight bleed out of the box but to be perfectly honest I barely notice it in real use-cases e.g. when I watch a dark scene (note I am autistic and cannot ignore even the smallest distracting detail and dislike bright artificial light).
I got the lg ultra gear 32GP83B it has hdr 10 and with some adjusting my black levels look fine. It’s sitting next to my Razer blade 14 which has another amazing screen in it already.
Nice paced video. I wished I saw this before I went monitor shopping.
Just the video I needed, thank you! Guess it'll be IPS for my home office/gaming monitor for now.
I've bought a monitor with VA panel. I do everything, from playing games, watching mvoies to studying and graphical design. It's pretty decent technology, but the ghosting is visible and I have hard time choosing the right contrast for dark colours, because people who have IPS sees it differently. But that's just all, I think it's a good idea to go for a VA panel after all.
I much prefer VA than IPS, i love deep blacks that make the colors pop and that grey glow in IPS ruins it for me. OLED is the best but having to pay near x3 the price only to get a permanent burn in after a few months is just not worth it
@@amokana same, can't stand the ips bleeding, va is cheaper and modern VA doesn't have that annoying ghosting, at least in the monitors i have tried
@@Mafw7777
Yeah I think it highly depends on which VA panel you get. If you’re buying a cheaper monitor then I’m sure VA has lots of ghosting, but if you’re buying a pretty nice monitor they’re fine, not much difference between IPS and VA.
I got a 1440p ultrawide 144hz VA panel with 1ms response time and it doesn’t have much ghosting at all. I can’t imagine an IPS panel would be much different.
My next upgrade will hopefully be OLED in the future though.
@@amokanaBlack in the VA panel is a big lie, Nowdays a IPS or ADS panel it has the seme dark of VA panel only need few adjustments, look at this IPS without local dimming in dark scenes th-cam.com/video/mWKtd2mrod8/w-d-xo.html Now look at this a VA qled panel with local dimming at full vs Oled panel in the Real Life you can see the big difference difference th-cam.com/video/UaIwB6tkFE0/w-d-xo.html
@@-Burb Is any ghosting noticeable while watching movies on a VA panel? Or only for gaming?
This video convinced me to buy oled. Went for alienware's ultrawide DWF and it is absolutely stunning. I would like to say for anyone still on the fence that the difference is much much bigger in person than what you see on the video. The video will only give you a small taste of how big the difference is because the camera just doesn't capture the full difference in brightness, contrast and detail. When you have OLED and LCD next to each other in your room, the difference is huge. Absolutely amazing tech. In short words, it looks like you are looking straight through a window and it feels like you can touch what's on the other side. Watched Interstellar last night, wonderful experience especially in the black hole scene.
I only saw an OLED tv once in a store next to others and I almost shat myself with how amazing it looked. As you said, everything looked real, like you can touch it. Can't wait to get a monitor some day for my gaming.
@@GatsuKS Yep, I was in a hardware store and saw some big OLED tv and that's where I saw for the first time how good it looks. Absolutely worth saving up for. I recommend getting QD OLED.
Thanks, very quality video that's very easy to understand. You're awesome
Great explanation and examples!
By far the best tech youtuber i swear. Not fast paced af and takes time to actually dive into what shit means and provide real side by sides comparisons that are visible. Like you can actually see what to look for and notice it nicely. Felt like i was at micro center running tests on all of em
@LamaKING21 This guy is good as well th-cam.com/video/UJeSWbR6W04/w-d-xo.html
I have the 27inch LG OLED and love it but would recommend that most people go IPS. IPS monitors are the most cost effective choice right now and for around 20-30% of the cost of an OLED monitor you can get a really nice IPS monitor with a high refresh rate and greater brightness. Unless you're like me and eat, sleep, and breath horror games and also primarily play games after dark I would wait till there is more competition between manufacturers that will hopefully drive the price of OLED monitors down.
Yeah, and struggling with awful black level without proper contrast, wich come in handy basically everywhere, not only horror games, viewing angle and terrible hdr experience (basically none)
Yep currently enjoying my LG32 gq950-b😁
I wish more people would have really hammered down the disadvantages of an IPS monitor when I was doing my research. I eventually landed on an IPS monitor and now regret it mightily. My only options now is to live with it, or sell the the IPS at loss.
Wtf happened to monitors in the last 5 years? If my old lcd monitor from 2015 didn't die, I'd still be using it. It had great black levels, decent colors, and minimal ghosting/smearing. And at a budget friendly price as well. All these monitors today have glaring downsides.
I just bought an LG gn600 24 ips 144hz and the contrast is awful. I was thinking about getting a VA panel because I prefer good colors and contrast. I would even try a 75hz because the IPS black is basically grey.
Do you know any good VA monitor 24”?
@@NegociosSemEstresse no but oddysey g7 is legit and has the best VA panel available for years. Great contrast incredible motion and cheap if you get it used.
@@guywithalltheanswers6942 Incredible motion and VA do not belong in the same sentence. To this day VA panels smear colors, especially darker ones. Combine that with the ugly hotspot contrast and tight viewing angles it's not worth it.
@@RicochetForce That's true for every VA except the new Samsung ones. Take a look at the RTINGs reviews or the hardware unboxed.
I got a LG 32GQ950 instead of an OLED monitor and don't regret it at all. But I choosed it because I use it for work and web browsing 80% of the time and maybe 20% for gaming. Meaning it would mostly have static images on it most of the day. But with that said, it's an amazing panel with good blacks for being an IPS, basicly no light bleed and very color accurate. But I still can't recommend it due to its price :(
Careful about updating your firmware to latest version on 27GR95QE - since it can cause pixel burn-in (just google: Firmware update 27GR95QE caused image burn in). Normally, to avoid burn in - latest OLED monitors come with a feature - which swaps/moves pixels every couple of seconds or so. Yet, apparently - firmware updates temporarily disable this feature - and thus - on a slow update a burn-in actually happened.
Excellent and exceptional review!
It is almost like the perfect monitor is kept away from us. There is always a compromise. If we had a perfect one, we would never buy another. Hmm.
suspicious right ? :)
Wait for microLED. It's not like miniLED. It's more like OLED, but without the downsides, like burn in or image retention. Once prices and sizes come down, it'll be as cost to perfect as any monitor has ever been, I think.
Yeah oled is good but will never be mainstream untill the monitors hit sub 500$. Waiting for micro led seems like a good option.
Check microled prices. Astronomical figures. I think one would have to wait for a couple decades to buy microled TV
@@user-cj4di6rs9d I mean remember when 4k curved tvs hit the market over a decade ago?. They were over $20000 for the cheapest model but now we can get a good non curved 4k tv for less than a thousand dollars (Talking about AUD not USD as I live in Australia so can only go off of those prices). Even Oled is super expensive still but it has come down a little the cx was like $3000 now I think it's under $2000 for the same tv only what a couple years or so later. I expect that micro led will be expensive for the first 2-5 years because it will be the best and latest technology but it too will come down eventually in price.
Thanks for the informative video.
watching stock footage on my current monitor made me realize how much I appreciate it...
I used to play with strix 165hz 27" IPS but bought LG C1 48" OLED to try it out. The IPS is now my secondary discord monitor. The difference is like going from DVD to Bluray.
Same, I use a gigabyte 32 inch IPS 170hz as my secondary 1440p and a Gigabyte aorus 48 inch 120hz 4k OLED panel as my main. and Oled is just better in my experience. the TRUE blacks and the depth, contrast, dynamic range just outweigh any negatives. I wish I had two oleds now because when the screens are both dark from the scene i can see the backlight of the ips is glaring compared to the pitch black of oled
@@kutluarcturus12 ok stay in dark with those oled eventually i like natural light in my room ips all day and will get oled when they work more on it and get way cheap.I have oled tv and its good but not perfect in some cases
“Is LCD Still Relevant?” As long as OLED tech remains stuck in kilobuck land, yeah, I’d say LCD panels are still plenty relevant lol
Das "Bis zum nächsten Video" am Ende hat mich echt geflasht.
Great video!
Looking forward to your FALD vs OLED comparison!
My Asus OLED PG27AQDM is pretty bright, even at just 70/100 brightness(in FPS mode). In HDR mode it goes to a 100. When I first got it the HDR was pretty washed out but after a firmware update, the colors do pop when viewing HDR content. I'd say overall it was a good purchase, and hoping for more development into this technology to make it more affordable and a standard in the future.
Can you use it in 4k as well ?
Have you had any burn in?
@@Outshind I do not have any signs of burn-in taking place, monitor is doing stellar.
@@ajdbob2831 well that’s good
@@ajdbob2831 is text clarity as bad as they say compared to the IPS? Not suitable as an allrounder monitor?
If you're a gamer and don't do productivity work on your personal PC, then OLED is definitely worth it, imo. I have the Alienware AW3423DW and it is THE best upgrade (went from VA) I've made in a long time. It is amazing for gaming, truly jaw-dropping in action. I don't know how many times I've been blown away by the visuals this thing gives to games. It's an experience for sure. Definitely worth every penny for a PC gamer.
What about fps games like valorant which it doesn't support 21:9 res
I heard the black bars is bad for OLED displays do u recommend Alienware ? I play valorant and single player games and watch anime and movies
@@noone-zv3bz lol Blackbars aren’t bad for OLED the opposite actually. The 21:9 OLEDs are QD Oleds which are a bit superior to this 27 inch WOLED. If you don’t like Black Bars then id pick the 27inch one if you don’t mind and play games that support 21:9 then pick one. Monitore Unboxed has great videos on them. 42inch OLED TVs are always an option as well
@@KopfdesRiesen i play valorant a lot in the same time i cant buy the 27 lg or asus OLED cause of matte finish and HDR looks so bad so the Alienware best choice casue I also watch movies and the glossy looks siiick do u think the games will looks normal with black bars i mean fov and the stretch res
@@noone-zv3bz Hard agreed lol fuck matt screens. Dough makes one with the same panel thats glossy but they are shipping in the end of Sommer. Previous monitors are still not delivered as far as i know! I hope the monitor industry starts offering more Glossy/matte options to chose.
Monitor or Hardware unboxed reviewed the Alienware, MSI and now Samsung one with that QD OLED panel id recommend checking that out. Even tho they’ll probably all be a great choice
@@KopfdesRiesen thx bro for replying maybe ill stick with AW and later buy trash 1080p 240hz for fps lol
Came across your video researching monitors for gaming and I'm glad I did, very well done and you have a new subscriber. On that note, I am quite OCD when it comes to display tech and there's no single monitor type that I'm 100% happy with. With IPS, the glow in the corners and lack of high contrast is annoying. Even more annoying is with VA monitors with the streaking and ghosting which in fast paced games gets pretty bad even on higher end models. But with OLED, the lack of sharp text, fringing and risk of burn-in and having to take extra steps to mitigate it just don't seem to be worth the high cost they demand. So I'm kind of stuck in purgatory as far as which monitor I'm going to get currently.
I‘ve got a VA Panel, Freesync 75hz AOC. Never had an issue with ghosting, and the colours are amazing.
I have TF panels on one of my computers and IPS panels on the other. Neither showed any of the lag on the Gaia star maps like the VA screen you showed. Also if I want uber dark blacks, I can turn down the brightness a little and bump up the contrast and it looks similar to the OLED screens I've seen, especially on the IPS screens and I can see them in a brighter room. Dot pitch, refresh rates and response times are way more important than slightly deeper blacks. If you're immersed into a game or watching a fast paced movie, the black areas of the screen have little to no consequence since there is nothing going on in those areas.
You did a bang up job oled is not worth the downgrade in latency for slightly better blacks i agree so hard i go out of my way to ensure every device i use is IPS whenever possible 😊
lmfao, "turn down brightness and bump up contrast and it looks similar to OLED screens" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I actually can't believe I've read that and the writer wasn't intending it to be satire. Look, it's ok for monitors to be better at different things, you don't have to lose IQ to cope with that fact.
Funfact: you need an OLED-Monitor to view this video 😂
I watched it on the miniLED screen of my Macbook Pro.😂
My Samsung C27FG73 is a VA panel, but doesn't have the white text on a black background disappearing issue at all. Stars in space games represented by single pixels are don't lose any contrast at all during fast movements either.
very pleased with my Dell g3223q 4k 144hz IPS purchase last week. I need business productivity along with game playing. This replaces a Dell u2711 that is 12 years old and still looks awesome. I just wanted to upgrade from 60hz fixed and insure that the old monitor wouldn't suddenly die.
The downside from oled is that it ages quick. VA and IPS doesn’t age that quick. I prefer VA because of the good contrasts and colors and the good price.
VA is a junk. How you can get used it's awful black ghosting?
I'd love more black level detail than IPS, but for now just can't accept losing anything when it comes to text sharpness or SRGB range color accuracy. In the near future I hope to maybe find some flat VA monitor using a Samsung panel(for the speed). Otherwise I'll be stuck in 27" 1440p IPS "mediocrity". ☺️
samsung panels are among some of the worst in lcd and oled, if you have a samsung that is good you will probably find that it uses a lg screen because lg used to make all the screens for samsung (you only have to go to your nearest electronics store that has all the tvs together to see this).
ps samsung oled are also the worst when it comes to burn in
The Accer Nitro XV322QK VBMIIPHZX seems like a good option.
That's because people always compare cheap VA panels against more expensive IPS panels. I'm using cheap VA panel and just switched to a cheap HP IPS panel. And the IPS is so much worse than VA. If you want to buy VA, look at the one with 100% sRGB.
@@bjorn1583no man the latest Samsung VA panels are the bomb. They have permanently defeated the notorius ghosting effect. Right now it's only present on their high-end va panels, hopefully in the future it will reach the lower budget as well
@@adrianpaul3749 when this vid was posted samsung were the worst at ghosting so get with the times.
until the testers have shown the updated results anything you say is hearsay until proven
Another banger! keep it up!
Fantastic video. Thanks!
Thank you for this. I have an ASUS PG279Q and was feeling the FOMO. I have OLED TV's in my living room and my GF loves them for movies and TV shows. I bit the bullet and bought the LG 27GR95QE-B. For 1K USD, I expected to be WOW'ed. For reference when I bought the PG279Q in 2017 (for around 900 USD) It was a revelation - IPS with its speed, Gsync, it was amazing for my games at the time (CSGO, OW, WoW, LoL, other FPS)
I really enjoyed the LG OLED monitor, I thought it was a definite upgrade, but not enough for the cost. Im playing more WoW , Lost Ark, Diablo4 now and its great for the D4, but I felt it was lacking (esp in brightness) in WoW and Lost Ark. I returned it after a week. I know I couldve kept it, but with side to side comparisons against my PG279Q, (which is older now and with more screen hours than I can count), I preferred my old reliable.
When LG releases a brighter OLED monitor, I will definitely buy it. My other accessory screens are all LG, and am looking forward to having a full LG setup.
I'm happy with my IPS. I tried switching to a VA, but switched back because I didn't like the motion blur. I'm not using OLED on a desktop system until they fix the burn-in issue.
lg panels dont have that issue (yet) samsung panels are the ones with all the burn in (samsung, sony and phillips use the samsung panels that l know of)
Awesome, solid video as always
Looking forward to a mini LED OLED comparison :D
I have all 3 panel types and I agree with your assessment. While oled is the best/my favorite for image quality. I found out real quick that what i thought wasn't a particularly bright room was still overpowering the screen during the day, va is basically an all a rounder/jack of all trades but master of none type. It is really close to oled for sdr with good contrast and gets plenty bright for daytime viewing (why I use it for my main content display during the day), but the backlight bleed/haloing is very noticable in the dark, and ips is better for off angle with great pixel response(better than va for games) while also having the brightness of lcd.
What would you think about a mini-LED VA?
@@stanislavkimov2779 I'm not really the one to ask as I don't have mini led. There are tons of reviewers who know better than me as they have used them and do it for a living. Though I'd imagine the same would hold true to what's been said, just to a different degree (backlighting of any kind will have some haloing just due to it still being backlit and oled with it's individual pixel lighting will always win out there, as for brightness it's probably going to be best)
Would you pick the oled over an ips panel for gaming? The Asus oled 240hz looks like a good product and even better (ms).
@@TheOnlyleroy yes
Excited for more mini-led displays coming out. I love OLED but have no desire to babysit my monitor when i do work on it multiple hours a day.
A good mini-LED monitor with a good alrorithm/dimming zones would just be more versatile for someone like me who games a ton but also has static documents on my screen all the time.
what is better for the eye care though? I've heard miniLED have flicker
@@batmanonholiday4477never heard flickers before, maybe that panel are problematic but all mini LED suffering glow effect where in dark background with Light object it Will be glow on that object
The brightness point is kinda funny, cause if you're one of those people that keep there IPS brightness at 33-50% (like I used to be), then you won't really feel the difference going to OLED.
I have been considering though putting my 4k IPS with mini-LED backlight on a monitor arm next to my ultrawide QD-OLED, specifically for web browsing, whatsapp and discord, because it displays text SO crisp, and then keep my games and media on the OLED.
bought an LG C2 to use as my primary PC monitor a while back, best decision ive ever made. :)
I'm using a 1080p 75Hz IPS at the moment and since I'm just a casual gamer it gets the job done just fine and it wasn't that expensive either. I'll probably upgrade once OLED 1080p panels become available and they aren't that expensive anymore. I know that won't be soon but I feel like only that kind of upgrade would make sense for me. Getting a 144Hz 1080p feels kinda pointless, 1440p is too expensive for me especially when it comes to a PC that would output that resolution. So yeah ideally I'd stick with 1080p but OLED would definitely be a big upgrade.
By the time OLED becomes affordable I don't think people will be using 1080p anymore. Kind of like how nobody uses SD.
There are good 144hz monitors out there... e-sports grade..good price as well!!
I feel you, brother, but we can only dream of that. There's no way manufacturers are going to produce displays with premium technology and budget low-tier parameters such as 1080p resolution. They'll continue to go after the premium market segment with 4K and ridiculous refresh rates.
1440p is a goo compromise, i play on 4k and everxtime stryggel and need to get the newerst Graphik card 💳 for maximum experience. But i cant go back to FHD. The image is mor clear and collerfull and have more details. Sometimes i think about to get in the middle for better fps and lower updating rate.
I went from a 75hz to 144hz 1080p and I don't regret it one bit.
I heard some people say that OLED in FPS games with dark areas could make enemies a little bit harder to identify in the environment (Known as black crush), have you experienced anything similar to this?
Another thing, have you noticed that bright scenes with no dark backgrounds can look better in the IPS? Do the colors pop up more for one screen or another? Thank you for sharing your detailed experience.
因为IPS屏幕亮度比oled屏幕更高，所以明亮的场景IPS显示效果更好，只是IPS没有很高的对比度。
Iin 2012 I bought the Galaxy S3 with "Super AMOLED" and was stunned. A decade later, my new LG C2 is bringing back old and new found love! Nothing compares to the capabilities so far and it's only getting better. (this is not an employee for big oled)
Great review. Subscribed.
The va g7 240hz panel is goated.
This was a great Pros and Cons list. I do game, but not FPS and my primary job is Programming in a brightly lit room so I think I'll go for a VA panel and save my wallet this time around.
Are you happy with the VA panel? and do you get any smearing when scrolling a dark mode browser like he showed in this video?
@@colinpierre3441 I have a VA panel and the smearing I rly bad when I have blue light filter and dark mode on, if I just have dark mode on is all good
@@marza2026 Oh, well I think there are some VA panels that smear more than others. I'm still at a stage of deciding what panel to buy, but I've heard that reducing the refresh rate can minimize smearing as well. So you can try it at different levels and see if that helps.
Great comparison. Will there be a standalone review of the Philips 27M2C5500W?
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By FAR the BEST review ever , Very True !!!
It's worth mentioning that in Europe, you can get a 48" 138Hz 4K QLED monitor for cheaper than the middle OLED monitor (~€900, so roughly €100 cheaper). And outside of professional e-gaming in FPS games or Rocket League, 138 Hz is more than plenty (not to mention that the vast majority of computers wouldn't be able to run the more demanding modern AAA titles at higher frame rates in 4K anyways). Of course, the size can be an issue in this case, but if you have the ability to put some distance between yourself and the monitor it's quite great since it allows you to have plenty of additional desk space.
What's the name of that monitor?
@@arthena2130 LG Ultragear 48GQ900-B. It's often listed as 120Hz, but it depending on whether you use Display Port or HDMI it can handle up to 138Hz IIRC. Another similar alternative is the 42" LG Evo C2 which is a 1O0Hz 4K OLED TV (being a TV, it has some features that the Ultragear lacks). There are some pros and cons to each, so compare them on RTINGS. Regardless, they're both very solid (as long as the bulky size isn't an issue) and are often available in the €800~999 range in Europe (at least in Spain, Italy, and Germany; probably elsewhere too. If not, shipping shouldn't be too expensive).