I have m50 I and sigma 56 1.4 and to be honest Ive tried canon RP/R/5D IV and sony a6400 and 6600 and I live my m50. Its not for everything but for portraits and stable video its freaking awesome. ANd the price is so jucy. I wanted the upgrade many times and always came back.
M50 works for me, had a T5i before the M50, with adapter ($35) added 5 lenses to M50! Purchased two manual lenses when used with monitor with focus peaking, works great!
I upgraded to the R10, but I still love my M50. I have the canon 22 and 32mm primes and the sigma 56mm! The R10 is better in all ways, especially video! I use the RF 50mm 1.8 for portraits and the RF-S 18-150 3.5-6.3 as my daily!
Very cool! I loved my M50 until the shutter went out! Only have 40k or so shots on it too :( Like you I also really enjoy the RF series cams! Have shot most of my recent TH-cam videos with the R50
When the M50 first came out, I was looking to change from my 600D + Tamron 18-270. Shop tried to flog me an M50. The particular guy (now gone from the shop) was a product flogger and not a need matching guy. He didn't listen to me and what I wanted and why. Probably because he could not pair it with similar lens. I waited and I'm glad I did. Now have RP + RF24-240 AND R50 + RF100-400. The M50 would have been a waste of time and money. Canon have been a bit slow on RF-S lenses. I overcame that by going RP and then getting RF 100-400 (full frame). I can interchange but have not. That's now changing. Canon and Sigma both coming out with some good RF-S.
I am planning moving to Sony instead... Sony a7iii or probably A6400... But i still love canon profile picture which it has nice color straight out from camera! A great advantage!
I'm highly considering upgrade my m50 to this camera. Essential for the UVC feature of the R50. However, I use a Sigma lens which I think it won't work with the R50 :(
Thanks for the details. I'm beginner and don't want to spend on lenses right now but want to take good travel photos n videos so is R50 kit lens is good enough or should i consider sony zv e10 or mark 2 with kit lens?
I switched back to M50 as the R50 has no pancake lens (22mm). Next camera will be from Fujilfilm as Canon doesn't take APS-C shooters serious and offers just few RF-S lenses.
@@ProstateCancerTRtR yes, I currently use my R50 with 24mm prime and adapter (38mm equivalent). Unfortunately the camera get's bulkier but the quality is better than M50.
I currently have the M50 mkii because it was the only thing a available at the time, and with the viltrox speed booster it has honestly pulled its weight in the stills department (please note that I mainly shoot car and skate photography)
@@pricklypearcamera So far I’ve borrowed a 50 f1.4 from a friend and it’s done wonders for image quality. I’m looking into getting the 50 f1.8 stm for general purposes and then a used 70-200 f2.8 because I usually end up shooting the kit lens all at the far end
Hey! So I hate to be that guy, but there are some pretty big inaccuracies in this video. 1. the canon made EF-RF adapter not only allows auto focus for EF lenses, but in some cases they work better than they did on EF cameras. Use third party adapters at your own risk. the canon made adapter is $100. 2. Sigma made lenses for the EF-m mount
Hey #reachfilms, 1.) Fair point, have not tested the ef-rf Canon adapter, but did have autofocus issues with the canon branded EF-EOS M adapter utilizing canon EF lenses 2.) Good callout- Sigma did make 3 EF-M mount lenses for the EF-M, a 16, 30 and 56mm, they run from $325-400, my bad on the omission.
@@pricklypearcamera yeah the adapter for the eos-m was a COMPLETELY different animal. Right now since there are not many RF-S lenses whatsoever canon actually recommends to use their adapter with EF lenses for now since they perform so well
Still my canon M50 kit lens start ar 15mm and yours at 18mm. For me that wider lens is more useful. It's sad that canon converted several m mount lenses to rfs but not the kit lens with so useful 15-45mm range.
This is a great comparison video I think I’ll be upgrading from my rather old 700d to the R50 I take it I’ll need an adapter for my Sigma 2:8 lens many thanks from the UK 🇬🇧
Congrats on the upgrade! I think a lot of M50 users are unable to upgrade to R50 because they've invested a lot in M mount lenses and they won't be compatible. I'm lucky to have sold it off for an RP before Canon bailed on the M mount.
Issue is not only that those lenses are incompatible but new kit RF is worse them EFM and those big RF lenses are so expensive it cost like 3 or 4 times more than 1 EFM lens that's not normal for hobby entry level people ... not to mention there is more EFM lenses to choose from than from those cheaper RFs they made and on top of it cannon blocking 3rd party companies like sigma from making affordable lenses for RF mount well that's reason why not to upgrade ... those few upgrades what R50 offers are nice but everything else is wrong and against consumer who is taking video/photo on a hobby level
Your comparing used, old technology prices to brand new tech new price. The M system is dead. Spend $300 more, get new and better results and lenses. Also, you didn’t mention how they changed the hot shoe and how it now requires a flash adapter to work with flashes.
I bought m50 mark2 a few weeks ago with kit 15 mm f3,5. It's be 24 mm on xcrop 1.6. So l took 50 mm f1,8 (80 mm on crop) an 24 mm f 2.8(38 mm.on crop) I think you can take these focus with RF or Rf--s.
I know the ZV-1M2 isn't an interchangeable lense camera, but the product showcase and auto focus are fantastic. It also has a built in ND filter. I'd love to see a comparison against the R50.
To be honest is pretty much the same camera with the digit x processor vs the 8 and a new mount. So you are only getting a few more frames and actual 4k. I would of personally upgraded at least to the R10 but ideally to the R7.
Does the R50 mic input jack have true stereo input for stereo mics? The m50 was supposed to have this, but I guess it was a firmware issue and never got fixed, but it's clearly advertised as stereo on the specifcations, but only does Mono input.
Tbh the m50 Is a great camera and with adapters it doesn’t really lack anything I think if people feel they need more video features then I get it . Or maybe better low light features. But I think you can get really wide lenses on with adapters and I have the 18-150 kit Lense as one of my lenses and the that lense has always been super sharp. Although I know people like the camera for vlogging. I wonder why people don’t buy camcorders for vlogging. I wonder what a decent used camcorder goes for
That's great, have a good time using it! I would recommend K&F's 49mm ND filter for a budget filter, I believe it's around $25-30 on Amazon, and if you're looking for premium, I've used breakthrough ND's on other lenses, and they're awesome, but also rather spendy, around $125 I think for a 49mm.
I use a G85 occasionally as a third camera with a panny 35-100mm lens, great camera, does seem to have more heat issues from my personal experience than the R50. I do rather enjoy it though.
I wish the Sigma prime lens I bought for the M50 had an adapter for the R50 - if you know of one please let us know - great presentation I subscribed 😎
I haven't seen an adapter for it yet! But definitely will if I see one- BTW Billy-really great channel! I am listening to your podcast with Donika Gunther right now- inspiring story, and having to learn the language/culture from the ground up would be so hard!
I have M50ii and I am thinking more about the R8 than the R50 but I don't know if the extra $700 will be worth it. I only have the 22mm pancake lens and a manual 17mm AArtisan lens. I really need a better faster auto focus switching. Does the R50 have 30mins video recording limit?
60 min recording limit on the R50, and I have really liked the auto focus switching so far... I am not too familiar with the R8 so couldn't really say on that front.
@@pricklypearcamera thanks for the reply. Does R50 have clean HDMI out? Does USB C charging work while recording video? If yes, does it quickly over heat? I am thinking of upgrading my M50ii instead of buying sigma 16mm f1.4 but the lack of RF lens especially from 3rd party and cheaper options from Canon. I may go for R50 and start building up RF/full-frame lenses from there
Yeah, it has "Time lapse" you can enable in the settings, not sure what max recording length is, and I have not tried, but looks interesting! There are a number of time lapse videos on youtube taken with the R50.
I haven't noticed any noise personally. I also haven't seen any Canon branded or aftermarket battery grips for the R50, just some handstraps, maybe someone out there can enlighten us?
That is incorrect. The lenses are so good that only using the centre of the lenses is absolutely fine, even on the demanding R7. One weird experience I had was my EF version of the Samyang 85mm 1.4 AF is noticeably softer than the Canon EF 85mm 1.8 USM lens on my FF RP. However, on my R7, they switched and the Samyang is sharper (even at 1.4) than my Canon at 1.8.
Get the sigma RFS 1.4 trio! Oh that’s why I switched to sony from the M50. Hope Canon opens its system before its to lake and get left further behind! Get video
Nice-thanks for the tips, I had been mainly looking at Canon, but just checked out the Sigma's and they look great. I have heard some rumor about canon potentially opening up so hopefully?
A lot of people still can’t load 4K on TH-cam I almost never watch 4K because it’s compressed and shitty on TH-cam anyway The interesting thing about the r50 is size but I think I’m going Sony once I get tired of the m line the r50 is too big
Still using my mighty Eos M legacy for my vlogs, simply outstanding
5:51 thats exactlhy why I got the R10 :) no "tripod" issues.
I have m50 I and sigma 56 1.4 and to be honest Ive tried canon RP/R/5D IV and sony a6400 and 6600 and I live my m50. Its not for everything but for portraits and stable video its freaking awesome. ANd the price is so jucy. I wanted the upgrade many times and always came back.
M50 works for me, had a T5i before the M50, with adapter ($35) added 5 lenses to M50! Purchased two manual lenses when used with monitor with focus peaking, works great!
Nice! I still use my EOS M50 II with the 55-200mm lens as well for certain shots!
Useful comparison. What camera did you film this vid on?
Hi, I shot this video on a Sony A6300. Thanks for watchin' !
What camera would you recommend for plane spotting videos
I'm also thinking of upgrading from my M50 II to the R50,, the M50 served me great for my use case, but I think I'm ready for an upgrade.. ❤
The bad thing is the lack of hot shoe… canon make you buy their OG flashes than third party ones.
I upgraded to the R10, but I still love my M50. I have the canon 22 and 32mm primes and the sigma 56mm! The R10 is better in all ways, especially video! I use the RF 50mm 1.8 for portraits and the RF-S 18-150 3.5-6.3 as my daily!
Very cool! I loved my M50 until the shutter went out! Only have 40k or so shots on it too :(
Like you I also really enjoy the RF series cams! Have shot most of my recent TH-cam videos with the R50
When the M50 first came out, I was looking to change from my 600D + Tamron 18-270. Shop tried to flog me an M50. The particular guy (now gone from the shop) was a product flogger and not a need matching guy. He didn't listen to me and what I wanted and why. Probably because he could not pair it with similar lens. I waited and I'm glad I did. Now have RP + RF24-240 AND R50 + RF100-400. The M50 would have been a waste of time and money.
Canon have been a bit slow on RF-S lenses. I overcame that by going RP and then getting RF 100-400 (full frame). I can interchange but have not. That's now changing. Canon and Sigma both coming out with some good RF-S.
I'm still using the light EOS M legacy (I don't care much about 4k) for all my vlogs and it's so amzing (got it barely used for less than 120 USD)
Very cool! I don't even shoot my youtube videos in 4k, 1080p is more than satisfactory for me.
If you get a smaller tripod mount you can remove the sd card without removing the camera
I am planning moving to Sony instead... Sony a7iii or probably A6400... But i still love canon profile picture which it has nice color straight out from camera! A great advantage!
Nice, I really enjoy the E-Mount Sony line too. I shot with a sony A7r and A6500 for a few years with a Sony 35mm prime and SEL18135, good stuff!
@@pricklypearcamera
Brother,I'm planning to buy a new mirrorless camera.
Should I go for sony a6400 or canon r50?
Note:I'm an absolute beginner.
I'm highly considering upgrade my m50 to this camera. Essential for the UVC feature of the R50.
However, I use a Sigma lens which I think it won't work with the R50 :(
Thanks for the details. I'm beginner and don't want to spend on lenses right now but want to take good travel photos n videos so is R50 kit lens is good enough or should i consider sony zv e10 or mark 2 with kit lens?
I switched back to M50 as the R50 has no pancake lens (22mm). Next camera will be from Fujilfilm as Canon doesn't take APS-C shooters serious and offers just few RF-S lenses.
Have you looked at the 24mm? That's the one I'm looking at for my R50 to replace my M50/22mm setup.
@@ProstateCancerTRtR yes, I currently use my R50 with 24mm prime and adapter (38mm equivalent). Unfortunately the camera get's bulkier but the quality is better than M50.
I currently have the M50 mkii because it was the only thing a available at the time, and with the viltrox speed booster it has honestly pulled its weight in the stills department (please note that I mainly shoot car and skate photography)
I still think the M50 II is a great camera, what lenses did you pair with the Speed booster?
@@pricklypearcamera So far I’ve borrowed a 50 f1.4 from a friend and it’s done wonders for image quality. I’m looking into getting the 50 f1.8 stm for general purposes and then a used 70-200 f2.8 because I usually end up shooting the kit lens all at the far end
Hey! So I hate to be that guy, but there are some pretty big inaccuracies in this video. 1. the canon made EF-RF adapter not only allows auto focus for EF lenses, but in some cases they work better than they did on EF cameras. Use third party adapters at your own risk. the canon made adapter is $100. 2. Sigma made lenses for the EF-m mount
Hey #reachfilms, 1.) Fair point, have not tested the ef-rf Canon adapter, but did have autofocus issues with the canon branded EF-EOS M adapter utilizing canon EF lenses 2.) Good callout- Sigma did make 3 EF-M mount lenses for the EF-M, a 16, 30 and 56mm, they run from $325-400, my bad on the omission.
@@pricklypearcamera yeah the adapter for the eos-m was a COMPLETELY different animal. Right now since there are not many RF-S lenses whatsoever canon actually recommends to use their adapter with EF lenses for now since they perform so well
Still my canon M50 kit lens start ar 15mm and yours at 18mm. For me that wider lens is more useful. It's sad that canon converted several m mount lenses to rfs but not the kit lens with so useful 15-45mm range.
The M50 kit lens is way wider and much more light into the image.
Got the original M50 and I'm very happy with it. Great stills pictures and don't use the video much. Not worth the upgrade, for me.
The M50 have better image quality than R50.. funny.
@@giancarloarrobarodriguez5291
Really?
Good video sharing!!!
Thank you! Cheers!
Great video❤ How is the battery backup? How many shots in a single charge
Yep, how long can record 4k and hd video with a single charge?
This is a great comparison video I think I’ll be upgrading from my rather old 700d to the R50 I take it I’ll need an adapter for my Sigma 2:8 lens many thanks from the UK 🇬🇧
Congrats on the upgrade! I think a lot of M50 users are unable to upgrade to R50 because they've invested a lot in M mount lenses and they won't be compatible. I'm lucky to have sold it off for an RP before Canon bailed on the M mount.
Definitely true...
Issue is not only that those lenses are incompatible but new kit RF is worse them EFM and those big RF lenses are so expensive it cost like 3 or 4 times more than 1 EFM lens that's not normal for hobby entry level people ... not to mention there is more EFM lenses to choose from than from those cheaper RFs they made and on top of it cannon blocking 3rd party companies like sigma from making affordable lenses for RF mount well that's reason why not to upgrade ... those few upgrades what R50 offers are nice but everything else is wrong and against consumer who is taking video/photo on a hobby level
Your comparing used, old technology prices to brand new tech new price.
The M system is dead.
Spend $300 more, get new and better results and lenses.
Also, you didn’t mention how they changed the hot shoe and how it now requires a flash adapter to work with flashes.
You mentioned that the R50 does not use the M lens mount but did not say what mount the R50 does use. Please clarify. Thanks. 🤔🤔
It uses the canon RF mount.
@@pricklypearcamera Thnaks.
Which lenses are you going to get next? I'd suggest a prime lens.
@johndao5870 Yeah definitely am! I was looking at the RF 50mm STM, do you have any thoughts?
I bought m50 mark2 a few weeks ago with kit 15 mm f3,5. It's be 24 mm on xcrop 1.6. So l took 50 mm f1,8 (80 mm on crop) an 24 mm f 2.8(38 mm.on crop) I think you can take these focus with RF or Rf--s.
Intersting. The RFs kit glass appears to be the M glass with new mount?
Nope, much worse.
@@watchbreaker1706that’s not true I have the 18-45 and the 18-150 for my R10 and they both take amazingly sharp pictures!
@@thedirtygot9570 They may be sharp but they are also much slower than M kit lenses.
@@watchbreaker1706 I don’t take pictures in the dark, so that doesn’t affect me!
Why does the r50 look cheaply made? I have an m50 and I put a ef-efm adapter on there and now unlocked a whole host of lenses from the ef line
Hey mate do you have a recommendation for the R50 wide angle lens for a small studio TH-cam filming?
Can i use an EF lens on this Canon R50? Is there an adaptor to use EF lens on RF lens camera?
I know the ZV-1M2 isn't an interchangeable lense camera, but the product showcase and auto focus are fantastic. It also has a built in ND filter. I'd love to see a comparison against the R50.
Really loved the eBay auction videos. Do you have plans for more of those?
Yep, more coming soon!
To be honest is pretty much the same camera with the digit x processor vs the 8 and a new mount. So you are only getting a few more frames and actual 4k. I would of personally upgraded at least to the R10 but ideally to the R7.
I saw a YT video review about the R50 where it was mentioned that autofocus only works with original Canon lens. Is this true?
Does the R50 mic input jack have true stereo input for stereo mics? The m50 was supposed to have this, but I guess it was a firmware issue and never got fixed, but it's clearly advertised as stereo on the specifcations, but only does Mono input.
It has the new multi-function hotshoe which supports stereo mics.
@@cooloox yes, i'm aware. but need to know if that analog jack is actuall stereo.
i think it is ok to use a ef-m to ef adapter. it works well.
Hi, i want to take photos with an incredible quality And my budget is 870$ What i should buy?
Tbh the m50 Is a great camera and with adapters it doesn’t really lack anything
I think if people feel they need more video features then I get it . Or maybe better low light features. But I think you can get really wide lenses on with adapters and I have the 18-150 kit Lense as one of my lenses and the that lense has always been super sharp.
Although I know people like the camera for vlogging. I wonder why people don’t buy camcorders for vlogging. I wonder what a decent used camcorder goes for
does anybody know if the camera has a clean hdmi output? if yes, how do I find it
Hi, I just received my R50 yesterday. What Nd-filters would you recommend for the kit lens?
That's great, have a good time using it! I would recommend K&F's 49mm ND filter for a budget filter, I believe it's around $25-30 on Amazon, and if you're looking for premium, I've used breakthrough ND's on other lenses, and they're awesome, but also rather spendy, around $125 I think for a 49mm.
@@pricklypearcamera thanks a lot for the recommendation!! Looking forward to more videos from the channel! Good luck and cheers mate
What canon is doing to users of the M mount is just unfair.
Funny enough the M50 gives better photos than R50… the only good thing about the R50 is the 4k recording without that cropped.
Worth considering the Panasonic g85 - superior stabilisation and superior 4K
I use a G85 occasionally as a third camera with a panny 35-100mm lens, great camera, does seem to have more heat issues from my personal experience than the R50. I do rather enjoy it though.
Superior 4K is debatable, especially when it comes to autofocus.
I wish the Sigma prime lens I bought for the M50 had an adapter for the R50 - if you know of one please let us know - great presentation I subscribed 😎
I haven't seen an adapter for it yet! But definitely will if I see one- BTW Billy-really great channel! I am listening to your podcast with Donika Gunther right now- inspiring story, and having to learn the language/culture from the ground up would be so hard!
Is R50 vdo good like sony ❤️
I’ve been pleased with the R50 so far..my most recent video upload is shot with it.
I have M50ii and I am thinking more about the R8 than the R50 but I don't know if the extra $700 will be worth it. I only have the 22mm pancake lens and a manual 17mm AArtisan lens. I really need a better faster auto focus switching. Does the R50 have 30mins video recording limit?
60 min recording limit on the R50, and I have really liked the auto focus switching so far... I am not too familiar with the R8 so couldn't really say on that front.
@@pricklypearcamera thanks for the reply. Does R50 have clean HDMI out?
Does USB C charging work while recording video? If yes, does it quickly over heat?
I am thinking of upgrading my M50ii instead of buying sigma 16mm f1.4 but the lack of RF lens especially from 3rd party and cheaper options from Canon. I may go for R50 and start building up RF/full-frame lenses from there
But there are no RF-S prime lenses (e.g. 22mm)!!
I am on the fence on this ... for $200 more I may just for the R10. Does the R50 have any good time-lapse features ?
Yeah, it has "Time lapse" you can enable in the settings, not sure what max recording length is, and I have not tried, but looks interesting! There are a number of time lapse videos on youtube taken with the R50.
Does the R50 make noise when auto focusing and did they make battery grip for this camera or is it not worth it?
I haven't noticed any noise personally. I also haven't seen any Canon branded or aftermarket battery grips for the R50, just some handstraps, maybe someone out there can enlighten us?
@@pricklypearcamera the R50 desperately needs a grip!
Sadly you won't benefit from rf lenses as you won't be able to use the whole lens
That is incorrect. The lenses are so good that only using the centre of the lenses is absolutely fine, even on the demanding R7.
One weird experience I had was my EF version of the Samyang 85mm 1.4 AF is noticeably softer than the Canon EF 85mm 1.8 USM lens on my FF RP. However, on my R7, they switched and the Samyang is sharper (even at 1.4) than my Canon at 1.8.
Get the sigma RFS 1.4 trio! Oh that’s why I switched to sony from the M50. Hope Canon opens its system before its to lake and get left further behind! Get video
Nice-thanks for the tips, I had been mainly looking at Canon, but just checked out the Sigma's and they look great. I have heard some rumor about canon potentially opening up so hopefully?
He said dslr both are mirrorsless
A lot of people still can’t load 4K on TH-cam I almost never watch 4K because it’s compressed and shitty on TH-cam anyway
The interesting thing about the r50 is size but I think I’m going Sony once I get tired of the m line the r50 is too big
Buy R50.
You won't regret 😊👍
.yoo broo
R50 kit lens is pretty lame comparing to M series.
I like the R50 but the R100 is more in my budget as a hobby photographer.
R10 much better than R50