Whos gettin one? Paired with my mocap helmet oof.. JSFILMZ Mocap Stock: Adjustable USA & CANADA www.ebay.com/itm/285369931112 Not Adjustable USA & Canada www.ebay.com/itm/285353453281 www.amazon.com/dp/B0C9WN7LWD
@@tre_keys hahah yea sony is bout to put rokoko and perception neuron out of business if they keep improving mocopi tbh. Watch this video for accessories th-cam.com/video/iiQZVLarqIE/w-d-xo.html
Although the currently released Mocopi itself is excellent for entertainment purposes, my personal opinion is that if I could add one more Mocopi to make a total of 12 and have them support each limb and shoulders, this little fellow would undoubtedly be a perfect killer title. 😍
Or a mocopi with a Coil Pro-type device would be amazing!! I think the accuracy of Rokoko suits will be insane once the coil pro comes out, but something like that for mocapi (that isn’t $2000 like the coil pro) would be astounding
I was thinking the same thing. I think ThrillSeeker said in one of his videos that this is sort of doable if you used them with MO-Slime. He used the arm sensors as knee sensors, the VR controllers as hand data and the headset for the head data. Also Rokoko Studio already supports mocopi, so you can export to FBX or other skeleton presets if needed.
@@FPChris Sure so long as your budget allows it. A mocopi plus VR headset is still cheaper than a set of rokoko gloves. But yeah, provided you have the gloves, mocopi can give you the rest.
appreciate the honest review, always good to hear a non-biased perspective. debating spending to upgrade mocap just because of how long the process is w free rokoko video im using rn. Videos like this really help me made an informed decision ty man
I can imagine using this to draft or sketch different animation style quickly, or to communicate what desires or changes you want to an existing one. This could be used as a tool to communicate with other animators, even if you are not one yourself, what you want the animators to do or want to give several "low quality / uncleaned" captures as reference. I will definitely buy one of these to explore its usage.
Hy Jae ! You've made some exercises this day😊 ! The MOCOPI test is perfect (except Blender), thank you very much for this product presentation ! With articles like your Mocap Helmet, the mocopi, an iphone and some beginners artist, we can finally create cinematic for an affordable cost ! Merci beaucoup ! 🙏
Damn the finger thing sounds a bit naff... Hope theres a workaround? I watched a tutorial on this, if you click on the menu (3 dots), theres a lock hip option, that keeps the motion tight when sitting down. Was impressed with the blender raw mocap, movements looked very good...
yea thats standard xsens also has that i use it when i dont have to sit up and back down but for this demo i wanted to go up and down to see if the mocap will moce origin which it looks like it did
@@Jsfilmzif kinect based mocap and mocopi almost the same price, which one is better? I have used brekel body, but whenever I turn around it just won't work anymore
I guess fingerless motion can also be retargeted to finger included bone system. Then I can animated hands separately..It's fine since I had no motion capture suit or anything XD
plz help me after mocopi date save BVH import blender then can not copy to another character use sir whats problem blender link animation date not work to another character this animation
9:39 tha hell was that? haha🤣. Aye man, good to see you putting yourself out there to show us how these things work 👍. I think its a good starter kit, sure the absence of fingers does sorta reduced some of the awesomeness, perhaps some sorta added glove tracker could be a solution, or cameras located on the wrist trackers themselves to capture the finger movement like they do with the cameras on the VR headsets? then again such things might have shot the price into outer space. Nevertheless it seems good enough for such an easy setup.
Honestly I’m super jealous of you being normal size - I’m wayyy too tall for most mocap stuff, and my head is too big. Lol. Even the Rokoko largest suit is a squeeze and most helmets are made for normal sized human heads not big Europeans lol. (I’m over 6’4) also I travel a lot and id love to be shorter just to fit in planes 😂
Yo JS, Have you tested how far you can traverse a space and capture the movement? Did you always leave your phone on the table or did you try with it in the pocket to extend the range you can get? I imagine the limit is the network strength? Curious from a creativity standpoint to understand how much animation translation can be done with these. i.e. Move Ai is amazing and has finger tracking but does this enable more movement without being bound to a "volume" area?
I seriously am considering this and the helmet. With ARkit and blendshapes (not MH animator) and this I can do real time right in UE? Everything but fingers? And they are going to add fingers? Dude, I think I am so in.
I think ill get on for using with previz at least. I wonder how it works with iclone? be good to see a test of that. Also which do you think is better move AI or this? great video thank you!
@@Jsfilmz The price is almost 10 times lower. So this is expected. I used one of the first Xsens mocap suit many years ago. Back then it had a lot of drift. You needed to callibrate the T-pose after a few takes. And a lot of work to fix the data.
Ive placed it iclone and messed about with. Top looks great. Bottom half is not good. Knees & feet in horrible positions. Damn, i thought walking would be ok, but its shakey & real awkward looking.
@@HarryClipz go either thru rokoko, or ue5. Youll get hands. If u go mocopi bvh to iclone then im not sure how u set up skeleton (3d xchange???) Plus it'll come in with no hands. Im hoping ue5 can export with hands. Be a cheaper method than rokoko studio.
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Whos gettin one? Paired with my mocap helmet oof..
JSFILMZ Mocap Stock:
Adjustable USA & CANADA
www.ebay.com/itm/285369931112
Not Adjustable USA & Canada
www.ebay.com/itm/285353453281
www.amazon.com/dp/B0C9WN7LWD
We getting your headset!
What LED do you use with your helmet? Also I believe Rokoko is advertising there software for clean up for the data from mocopi
@@tre_keys hahah yea sony is bout to put rokoko and perception neuron out of business if they keep improving mocopi tbh. Watch this video for accessories th-cam.com/video/iiQZVLarqIE/w-d-xo.html
@@Cloganart thx!
yep lining up those with ya helmet! also the look has a solid 80s vibe! 🔥
Although the currently released Mocopi itself is excellent for entertainment purposes, my personal opinion is that if I could add one more Mocopi to make a total of 12 and have them support each limb and shoulders, this little fellow would undoubtedly be a perfect killer title. 😍
$1200 mocopi pro 2024
Or a mocopi with a Coil Pro-type device would be amazing!! I think the accuracy of Rokoko suits will be insane once the coil pro comes out, but something like that for mocapi (that isn’t $2000 like the coil pro) would be astounding
I was thinking the same thing. I think ThrillSeeker said in one of his videos that this is sort of doable if you used them with MO-Slime. He used the arm sensors as knee sensors, the VR controllers as hand data and the headset for the head data.
Also Rokoko Studio already supports mocopi, so you can export to FBX or other skeleton presets if needed.
@@npatchyou can also use Rokoko gloves.
@@FPChris Sure so long as your budget allows it. A mocopi plus VR headset is still cheaper than a set of rokoko gloves. But yeah, provided you have the gloves, mocopi can give you the rest.
3:46 spilled my coffee ☕
appreciate the honest review, always good to hear a non-biased perspective. debating spending to upgrade mocap just because of how long the process is w free rokoko video im using rn. Videos like this really help me made an informed decision ty man
Definitely As you said we need a pro version of these sensors with a complete rigging system. #JSFILMZ ❤
Excellent review!!! This is definitely a great companion to your MOCAP helmet. Looking forward to purchasing this.
this is what Microsoft advertised what the Kinect would be, back whenever the hell it came out
It looks very interesting. I can't wait to see a version that includes fingers movement. 👌
agreed id buy a mocopi pro
My man's wearing mighty tighties!!!!! "I don't know what I been told, Mighty Tighties are mighty bold!!"
😂😂😂
I can imagine using this to draft or sketch different animation style quickly, or to communicate what desires or changes you want to an existing one.
This could be used as a tool to communicate with other animators, even if you are not one yourself, what you want the animators to do or want to give several "low quality / uncleaned" captures as reference.
I will definitely buy one of these to explore its usage.
This is how we make kids geniuses, this is a great video to create attention.
Wow, This is worth buying it. Thank you for the review.
yea it struggles with sitting and laying but for standing yea i think its manageable
Hy Jae ! You've made some exercises this day😊 ! The MOCOPI test is perfect (except Blender), thank you very much for this product presentation ! With articles like your Mocap Helmet, the mocopi, an iphone and some beginners artist, we can finally create cinematic for an affordable cost ! Merci beaucoup ! 🙏
Thanks, now we need a tutorial on all the process to use these in unreal hehe. Thanks as always.
tommorow
Thanks!
Ty for the review
Thank you for this!
Perfect and thanks for sharing.
Foot tracking looks solid 😲
Looks nice fore the price.
I would suggest gauntlets for the forearms, so you get elbow direction, and either a thigh, or knee-pad for knee direction.
So awesome to see them in action!
Update they got finger gloves you can use with mocopi
use this, with live link face app with your helmet, and see if it's possible to record everything together in unreal engine ...
you can easily
What if you sync it with a mocap glove set? For say animations in blender or source filmmaker?
Damn the finger thing sounds a bit naff... Hope theres a workaround?
I watched a tutorial on this, if you click on the menu (3 dots), theres a lock hip option, that keeps the motion tight when sitting down.
Was impressed with the blender raw mocap, movements looked very good...
yea thats standard xsens also has that i use it when i dont have to sit up and back down but for this demo i wanted to go up and down to see if the mocap will moce origin which it looks like it did
I saw the Rokoko studio supports this and you can also add gloves.
yea i dont like monthly payments though
Thanks for the presentation. The quality of the capture is better than that of Perception Neuron V2?
its hard to say but v32 not avail anymore so 😂 i am impressed with the foot contact for easy walkin around
It seems you've tested several motion capture systems. Which one would you recommend for actually making a short film?
best one u can afford mang
@@Jsfilmzif kinect based mocap and mocopi almost the same price, which one is better? I have used brekel body, but whenever I turn around it just won't work anymore
I guess fingerless motion can also be retargeted to finger included bone system. Then I can animated hands separately..It's fine since I had no motion capture suit or anything XD
yea ofc but honestly i would like to preview the fingers also if possible
This would be great. Keep us posted on any work arounds, ive never come across fingerless bone system, so im trying to work this out?
Did anyone ever mentioned that u are the exact Image of Dante basco??
I noticed you have the ankles to the outside. Would on top forward facing make any difference?
i bought sony mocopi,but i don't know blender live how connect mocopi?
plz help me after mocopi date save BVH import blender then can not copy to another character use sir whats problem blender link animation date not work to another character this animation
thanks
wish it had finger capture too
9:39 tha hell was that? haha🤣. Aye man, good to see you putting yourself out there to show us how these things work 👍. I think its a good starter kit, sure the absence of fingers does sorta reduced some of the awesomeness, perhaps some sorta added glove tracker could be a solution, or cameras located on the wrist trackers themselves to capture the finger movement like they do with the cameras on the VR headsets? then again such things might have shot the price into outer space. Nevertheless it seems good enough for such an easy setup.
Honestly I’m super jealous of you being normal size - I’m wayyy too tall for most mocap stuff, and my head is too big. Lol. Even the Rokoko largest suit is a squeeze and most helmets are made for normal sized human heads not big Europeans lol. (I’m over 6’4) also I travel a lot and id love to be shorter just to fit in planes 😂
Yo JS, Have you tested how far you can traverse a space and capture the movement? Did you always leave your phone on the table or did you try with it in the pocket to extend the range you can get? I imagine the limit is the network strength? Curious from a creativity standpoint to understand how much animation translation can be done with these. i.e. Move Ai is amazing and has finger tracking but does this enable more movement without being bound to a "volume" area?
yea did one this morning u can put your phone in your pocket and walk stay tune for video
very nice
If they made gloves with fingers tracking, I am SOLD..even though I have Perception Neuron Studio with the gloves...
yea dude gonna be nuts
can you use those motions with metahuman face animation. I'm excited to see the tutorial.
yes
My question is can you use it with blender
I seriously am considering this and the helmet. With ARkit and blendshapes (not MH animator) and this I can do real time right in UE? Everything but fingers? And they are going to add fingers? Dude, I think I am so in.
I think ill get on for using with previz at least. I wonder how it works with iclone? be good to see a test of that. Also which do you think is better move AI or this? great video thank you!
I think it will be a great solution for me... the problem is they ship only in USA.
How this will be available in Europe?!?!??
absolutely Great,👍👍👍👍
Please do a somersault
LOL!! ill eat donut
Great video, what is your thought on mocopi vs kinect based mocap?
Should I sell or burnt the Xsens suit? It's so horrible
how would this work with actor core you think want to see more of this
Hey man, love your stuff! Regarding your mocap helmet, do you think you will offer shipping to germany in the near future?
considering shipping to germany is $80, ebay fee is $30 plus fees for transferring yea probably not
Price?
I wonder how it works without optical tracking 😊
How does it compare to the Xsens mocap.
its not there yet unfortunately but its a good start for sony
@@Jsfilmz The price is almost 10 times lower. So this is expected. I used one of the first Xsens mocap suit many years ago. Back then it had a lot of drift. You needed to callibrate the T-pose after a few takes. And a lot of work to fix the data.
@@chipcode5538oh man lets just say i dont clean up my xsens data at all been usin it 2 years
Dope breakdown fam! I was thinking about getting this. Can you buy this now?
yea sony website
@@Jsfilmz TY Jedi master!
wait, they are motion trackers that rely on gyros and are hard mapped to the body part right? so that means they can be under clothes?
yea i think so my hip is under my shorts its on my whitey tighties
why you don't sent the cheap mocap healmet to Brazil dude ?
not shipping overseas its gettin held at customs im losin money
They need to add iclone 8 also. Price range is fair and i can do a lot of dialogue scenes with this.
Ive placed it iclone and messed about with. Top looks great. Bottom half is not good. Knees & feet in horrible positions.
Damn, i thought walking would be ok, but its shakey & real awkward looking.
Theres a reallusion webinar 25th. All about AI mocap clean up. Hope to pick up some great tips n hints on walking cycle...
@@armondtanz It's nothing like shown here in the video.
@@HarryClipz go either thru rokoko, or ue5. Youll get hands. If u go mocopi bvh to iclone then im not sure how u set up skeleton (3d xchange???) Plus it'll come in with no hands.
Im hoping ue5 can export with hands. Be a cheaper method than rokoko studio.
Good 👍 How Can I ship it to saudia arabia?
I heard it’s only available in Japan (or Asia region) not in EU, is that true?
I bought from japan. It came within a week. £70 duty tax though. $400 = £315 + £70-80 duty tax.
For the price Move Ai is still way better. By the way it is US$ 449 not cheap at all.
is it better than the vive trackers ?
i havent used vive trackers but this is def less hassle lol
@@Jsfilmz lol :)
👍
Can the BVH be brought into iClone 8
Yea. But no hands.
I went thruu rokoko and thats got a dedicated ic8 export and comes in with hands...
Im hoping ue5 can export with hands...
now..... can i--hear me out---can i... i attach these to a DOG????
i dont see why not if u can tell ur dog to step one step forward for the calibration
😂😂😅
I tried using with LiveLink and Rokoko Studio but it didn’t appear as an input device for either program.