Winnebago Travato G Design Flaws - Time For a New Camper Van?
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- A little over 16 months ago we purchased a slightly used 2016 Winnebago Travato 59G as an experiment to be our daily driver, get away camper van, and shuttle craft between bus and boat.
It's been awesome, and now after sharing lots about what we love in our van - it's time to share the things we don't like. Yup, sit back - this video is the 'Chris and Cherie Complain About Everything!' episode!
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I had so many of the same issues when I was full timing in my RV. The RV industry designs their RVs for weekend camp outs and not full time use. Thus they use cheaper quality materials that don't last with full time use and have design limitations that you can put up with for a weekend camping trip but not if you are full timing.
I really wish a Full Time RV was designed and built with people who full time in mind with top quality materials that last along with smart uses of space.
In our case.. we are using our van more part-time/vacation style.
As a "G" owner, I concur with you completely . To replace or not; that is the question.
Placement of the air conditioner over the bed seems to be a common thing in the RV industry. We had issue with the rear vent blowing down on us too. I removed the inside cover, and glued in a block of styrofoam to limit the adjuster knob travel. Once reassembled, the mod is invisible.
Our Dometic freezer hinges failed too, with less that two years of only occasional use. It seems the return springs are too strong for the plastic pivot points I was able to make an invisible, and permanent repair by regluing the cracked hinge, and encapsulating it in a steel sleeve, thereby making it impossible for the crack to reopen
We have lower level switches that we keep bumping too. A common solution is to install a C shaped drawer pull or cabinet pull over the switch. If the right pull is selected, it doesn’t look like a homemade solution
Great info and glad you pointed these things out for all of us that are van researching!
Great video, and spot on with your assessment! Seriously, how much would it have cost to use exterior components that wouldn’t rust so quickly, and better quality exterior speakers? At this price point, we would have happily paid a little extra. They have at least addressed the AC upgrade & sumo springs in the newer models. We have a 2019 KL, and we added the sumo and better AC ourselves. And I can’t tell you how much we LOVE the lithium package; never going back to a generator!
Awesome critique Chris and Cherie - honest and balanced all the way, many thanks for sharing! Happy trails.
Excellent review and tips that I wouldn't of known about or looked for...Thank you for the video...Have a blessed day..
They need to hire you guys to help them design these vans!
exactly what i was thinking, especially the techy electronics stuff.
OR those who design and engineer them should live in them for at least a month... so they can feel and see the inconveniences that they put everyone else through.
I like your new video style. Not sure if it’s intentional but seems your style has changed during COVID. Slightly more informal than before and I like hearing your opinions, even the negative ones about the Van!
We have a 16 Travato G since new and I can say that most of the things you mentioned are things that we not interested in. Things like not having shelves in the closet, electric stove top and 3 way fridge aren’t issues with us, the are pluses. I will say the smoke alarm over the stove is a crazy place. Technology is always advancing, ie. quieter AC and generator. These things weren’t available when the 16G was built. Newer models have these advancements and they also have a bigger price tag. I have seen the price on G models go up over 50% since we bought ours. Our Travato has giving us 5+ years of fun with no issues.
Great video. Enjoyed your delivery. Thank you for sharing😊
You guys have such a great way of presenting and informing. !!! Before i knew it , the video was over.. really enjoyed it !!!!! i hope someone sends the link to this video to Winnebago. You guys would make great Ambassadors !! . Take care and all the best from Canada
You two are honest! Other TH-camrs are in cahoots with the manufacturer. For something that expensive, it should be better quality. Most try to get a free rv to use for up to a year. Or some kind of endorsement. The chassis that it is built on is the worse. I wish that the top two high end rv manufacturers would incorporate a total lithium system without loud generator in their vans. A few show flaws in their rigs and expensive repair bills but still say they will buy it again? Why? This is just my opinion. Thanks guys for this honest video.
I hope the folks at Winnebago will watch this great review... at least a couple of times!
They don't need to. Owners have forums and the guy that runs that product line attends rally's with these folks and takes seriously their input and many of the changes that have occured are from actual owners inputs. They make inprovement not just each years model but during the year s they feed those changes into the manufacturing line.
Love your "GL" opening freudian slip. I feel your pain. I have a 2104 Winnebago Trend, the B+/C- version of the Travato G. After a year of having it, I added 400Ah lithium, 540W solar, and a 2500W inverter in 2019.
You do not sound whiny at all you sound like someone who knows what they want and I know work full timers need! I am a full-time or myself
Thank you for the video. Great to see you both look great. Yeah crazy how everyone now wants a rv. I sold my B+ right before the crazy boom. Big mistake. I want a run around rv again. You can’t find everything you want in one rv I know. Solar living in Fl. Will work. Be well.
Glad to see you posting video ............
So helpful. Thank you!
Well done and valid points, I could point out a few others as well. We started shopping for Travatos but we discovered many of the problems you highlighted but also not thrilled with outdated Ram PM and how it drives. Have not ruled a KL out but much more impressed with Coachmen Beyond especially with new builds now on 2020 Transit chassis, great safety features, better fit/finish with Coachmen. I recommend that you check out, they don't have a G config but their C plan may work for you. Their lithium system is not as robust as Volta but in some ways it is better, only one with UL approval and it can be expanded at reasonable cost.
We did consider the Coachman - but it's longer than the Travato, which was already pushing our max length requirements. And the layout just wasn't as suitable.
@@Technomadia Yes about a foot longer, non-issue for us for all the safety features gained especially with 2020 and AWD too. Really like the quality they're putting in vs W. Good luck.
Great review. You two are looking good. Hope you find a GL soon.
Great!
Very helpful
Great work. You should try to send a link to this video to a "decision maker" at Winnebago. This is the most concise and comprehensive list of obvious design/quality issues I've seen on the "G". Most of the issues have still not been addressed in newer models.
Waste of time as many of their complaints have been addressed over the model years between 2016 and the new 2022 models.
@@oldhickory2064 I would be curious what your basis is for the post. While Winnebago has made several common after-market upgrades standard, I haven't heard anything about the "new build" materials, techniques, and quality issues being resolved at Winnebago on the Travato. If anything, I suspect they're pushing them out the factory door even faster given the current demand. I would love to know what Winnebago's profit margin is per Travato. I'm guessing it is upwards of 30%.
Thank you and you’re right...I hope Winnebago is listening!
Thanks for making this video! It’s unfortunate that your interior peeled up when those stickers were removed.
Great points!!
Totally accurate on the items you’ve pointed out. So many little items they could do better. (We are 2018 K owners). We replaced the AC with the Houghton (Ho-ton) from Adv RV. Best. Move. Ever. Even with the generator running, it’s 100% better. Worth the $3000 we spent on it.
On the front seat....the forward backward adjuster doesn’t allow you to turn it all the way around? Even with the back of the seat up straight?
Have you checked out the people who are selling on the TOWB FB group? Several people selling almost brand new vehicles.
You were in no way whining. Totally valid points!
The seat can’t move back far enough to spin past the water tank on the G. A slight redesign would allow a full spin.
Technomadia wow, big flaw there! In the K the passenger seat turns fully, but not the drivers seat because the galley is right behind it. Good luck getting your new G!
Just happened to catch this 2-year-old video. Recently purchased a 2023 Travato 59G and they fixed all the problems you outlined. I purposely picked the G over the GL model as we don't use the AC much (or microwave) here in northern CA. It's got two AGM batteries that can be replaced with lithium and a 1000 watt inverter than runs most of my electronics. The few times I need a lot of power the new quiet inverter gas generator does the trick at 60 decibels. Sometime new is better.
We did end up purchasing a 2020 GL after this video.. and it's much improved, for sure!
Thanks; I lean toward a K floorplan, which may solve some of those issues although introduce one or two more. Of course favor a K"L" version and the latest release, like maybe a 2021.5 if you have to wait for it anyway.
We have absolutely zero interest in the K / KL layout - it wouldn't meet our needs.
I hope they watch this! maybe take some hints from the boating industry!!
thanks for sharing your views on the travato G model! Im looking at the other company.
I’ve been enthralled with the Wonder. I wonder how it would compare 🤔
Was expecting a bunch of little nits, but you guys covered all really good relevant stuff. Hoping that Winnebago has a huge corporate meeting wherein all involved are taken to task to do much better.
You’re not complaining - you’re pushing the industry to stop producing schlock.
(Seeing all the cabinets in the ceiling cove would seem to make the vehicle top heavy and contribute to its wallowing down the road.)
With the proper suspension upgrades, the ProMaster actually drives pretty great - for a big van, at least.
Haaa , Love you guys!
I have a Dometic Fridge in my new travel trailer and I have the same problems. My door shelf for condiments broke off the first trip. It also is terrible when it is hot out. I installed a couple of extra fans on it to help it out. I never could get any help from Dometic so I’m thinking of replacing it with a new Furion 12 volt model. I usually camp with hook ups but solar will run the 12 volt model.
A good deal of the things you mentioned are or have been corrected. Winnebago continues to mane improvements and changes during the year on this model. I own a 2017.5 Travato and in that one they made a bunch of improvements and one of the best was bringing the waterlines inside the coach. I read the newest models have a quieter AC and a quieter generator. They added dual pane windows as an option that fold out a couple years ago . They added a three point seat belt to the rear seats in the G model...as you can see they have made adjustments each year and many are based upon Customer inputs. The newest models are improving the insulation in the coach. As far as the Promaster thats all on RAM not Winnebago and every manufacturer that uses that unit has the same exact issues. Personally I think for a gas engine van with the weight it carries it gets extremely good mileage. We typically average between 18-21 MPG on our trips and they are not weekenders.
Yes.. we know.. which is why we ended this video saying we're shopping for a newer model ;)
Thanks for the heads-up. I would never buy a winnebago. I'm new to your channel and will be a subscriber. Thanks for your honesty 🙂.
When I looked at the Travato with twin beds there was an option for lithium batteries & the fringe was a 12v compressor fridge. I liked the bathroom in the rear of that model, but that may be an issue for someone making a double bed instead of twins.
That's the K model of the Travato - which doesn't meet our needs. We love the G layout.
I agree...I want the double pane windows. And none of the few new ones out there that aren’t spoken for have them. I’m also wanting the new 59GL!!!
I am surprised by how many dealers ordered Travatos with every option possible, other than the awesome windows.
I am not sure they engineered RV's for people who understand consumer engineering
Thanks for all the good info. We plan to do something similar and plan to hopscotch our vehicle along with us on our Great Loop trip. Do you have to find a storage place when you move your boat from one area to another or have you found the marinas willing to let you keep your van there for awhile until you come get it? Just trying to work out the logistics of that.
It's been a mix so far.
It seems 5th wheels are made for full-time rv living but most others are not. Repair and carry on but some great feedback.
Have u guys checked into the new 12v compressor fridges? Those new GL’s might come with them but the new style 12v compressor fridges get colder faster and are a lot better for off grid camping which u guys like to do!
We've had a 12v compressor fridge in our bus for many years.. love it.
Thanks for video
It maybe mid level but for price could be better
Especially air
And what under refrigerator
Bathroom door would drive me crazy
I had a travato G and it is a great van RV for one person or two folks willing to be in such close quarters, the bed is 6 inches too narrow. Drives and parks like a car. The A.C. noise was my major complaint, second for me was the shower drain filter failed design. I still loved the van.
In Europe the Pro Master is a Fiat Ducato and the one we have in the USA is an Old model if you look up in Europe you’ll c how different it is ..
I love my Travato G 2017 and didn't want to watch your video, but I ended up agreeing with most of your design flaws. The A/C noise is my biggest complaint along with the generator. I recently had my generator fixed and I can not start it already. I have to cover the smoke detector when I cook any think even if I have the sliding door open and the vent blowing out on full speed. One think you did not cover is the heating pad on the holding tanks. Mine have started to peal off.
Our tanks did not have the heating option. Bummer that yours are failing!
The biggest issue on the unit for us is the hitch. That was poorly designed and doesn't do what it's rated at based upon the way it's mounted to the chassis, folks with tire carriers, bike carriers, stow aways usually have to find a method to reinforce it for it to even come close to working without damaging the chassis.
Bob Ledford's Adventure Motorhomes in Greer, SC has 2 2021 GL's.
Yup, but none to the specs we want if we're going brand new.
Thanks for this information. Great jon. FYI Be sure to put non ethanol fuel in those generators. Ethanol is not a generators friend.
The generator runs off the same fuel tank as the engine. Our generator came to us already gummed up because the prior owner never ran it.
@@Technomadia bummer. Hope you get that new rig soon with some of the kinks addressed.
I can't explain why I enjoy videos about RV design flaws so much - but they're so "validating" somehow.
We have a 2020 NPE GL. I believe the NPE is when they started putting in all the things that you want, except the awning (dual pane) windows (which we ordered). We did not get the built-in shade as it blocked my vision when driving. If you order, we went to Lichtsinn RV in Iowa to order (Nicole Blaser) so it had no miles & we could break in the engine. Good Luck in your search!
The NPE does have some nice upgrades, but the 2020.5 and 2021 have a lot of them as well. We really don't like the exterior look of the NPEs however..
I'm talking to both my local dealer and to Lichtsinn about ordering a Travato GL.. There are no more new NPFE coming -- so getting one of those now -- would likely be a used sale.... the NPFE had the fourth Volta lithium battery module -- like the upscale Boldt model.. The normal GL only has 3 battery modules.. it would be nice to be able to get one with the 4 modules -- but that currently does not seem possible
as noted the 2020.5 and 2021 models have all the NPFE things but the 4th battery module - the extra mobile solar panel and the floor mat.. only the fourth battery is a major thing for me.. even if it is not strictly a need - but a want..
There are no Travato Lithiums at dealers within a 1000 miles of me... Lichtsinn is about 1200 miles away.. talking with and emailing with Lichtsinn does show they are a top rate - honest dealer and I think our local dealer is consider a decent Winnebago dealer and service center.. I can not get a complete clear final order price with options from either dealer at the moment as they seem to be waiting for new price/option/option order sheets... This is likely related to the fact that orders - delivery times are out to 5-6 months or more and would be in the mid year model updates 2021.5. These likely would include making the Travato's on the new 2021 Promaster that does have several safety/driver assist features -- but still will not have adaptive cruise control -- look the changes to the 2021 Promasters to see the details
so I'm in a limbo waiting to order -- likely will be getting a 2021.5 -- likely will be waiting for some months for delivery after ordering -- likely will not get a really great deal in the current RV inventory shortage and climate -- but I have my mind set on getting a Travato GL as it fits my needs better than anything I have found so far..
as with most RV's there are a ton of channels on youtube with folks doing great mods to their Travato's - including those by Technomadia -- replacing the TV with a monitor and getting a cellular router and replacing the head unit are upfront mods for the queue
@ technomadia I got that impression, but thought I would throw out the extras NPE has. It appears the design color is not paint.
@@steventoney4018 Hey cuz, Lichstinn was not very responsive for us when we were shopping so we bought local. It turns out that was a wise decision. We've had multiple problems with our lithium system on our 2019 Travato KL. In fact, it still does not charge while we are driving it. This is after months of the dealer tinkering with it. The dealer will rely heavily on Winnebago for repair advice. Have a dealer close by saved us the thousand mile drive to Lichstinn for each iteration of attempted repairs. They even shipped the control unit from my KL to Volta systems for them to work on. It worked for a day. We still like our KL and the Pure 3 system when it works. I asked Winnebago if they would just take our Travato back and give us one that works. No deal they said.
@@douglastoney2843 -- Thanks for the feedback.... I hope you get the system fixed.. I have been able to meet with several owners of the GL and KL that love their Volta systems. Do you think it would be worth a drive to Volta in MI to have them take a look.. They did several changes to these Winnebago based Volta systems to improve them over the first generation.. we will see where I buy a GL from -- it is looking like it will be a 2022 model year as I will wait until WGO is using the 2021 Promaster chassis.. the person have have been talking with a Lichtsinn as been very responsive -- but they are 1200 miles from me here in Spokane.. the local dealer is very large -- gets decent reviews -- but so far is saying they can't even discuss an order as they are waiting updated price and options sheets from WGO.. I see the benefit of a local purchase....but it does not appear the WGO folks are really there yet at many dealers on fixing the Volta systems. anyway - I have been seeing folks have KLs about 4 to 1 to GLs and hope your problem gets solved soon
Agree on your nit picks about the Travato. We just got our 2021 GL NPE in mid-August and thankfully some of the issues you mentioned have been “fixed” so to speak. However a few like the TV mount remain, which brings me to my question . Can you share a link to the articulating mount you guys bought please? Also did you just use wood screws to mount or where there any anchors involved? Thanks and good luck in your GL search. May want to also check on Travato Owners and Wannabees on Facebook if your not already on as people advertise their vans for sale.
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I don't recall anything special about the install.
picked up a kl right before the covid craziness, and one of my petpeeves is those outdoor speakers , dont use them,dont want them and more importantly with the radio they are attached to ,i am always worried about making sure they are not blasting my neighbors when watching tv in surround mode,!!!
We have also worried about unknowingly blasting our neighbors with those useless outdoor speakers. It is also an unwanted point of entry for moisture.
We indeed once accidentally blasted our neighbors with movie audio. In the morning they were laughing about it, and said “at least you weren’t watching porn!”
This a mid level coach is way too flattering. Amazing insight from True Anglers, the rest of us mortals are just talking heads, some of us mindset " it is what it is". I see that u have a Trawler Yatch....Wow what a video and the insentive to DiY conversion entrepreneurs, this video is a must watch. Actually, u should be given RVs pro-bono by manufactures to do this type of reviews. Come on guys lets us share this valuable info.
I stuffed a t shirt in the back vent so the wind blast would go forward. The low setting was a joke on the 2019, It realfly was one setting, jet blast.
Do you find the bed a little small? 46” wide seems cozy.
It is cozy.. but no issue for us. We snuggle all night anyway.
OMG you guys sound like me! You're my peoples!
GL you and me too
Does the bed size fit for two people? it seems cut off because of the bathroom.
It fits the two of us (plus) cat just fine.
I was touring a G last year, stepped into the bathroom, closed the door, and almost couldn't get out because those slats were very argumentative. I was going to get a K and just use a curtain. It will only be me in the van, so I don't really need much more privacy.
We have almost gotten trapped in the bathroom as well, and when it happens you have to very delicately extract yourself or risk causing even more damage to the flimsy door.
I have to wonder if the sliding door problems are actually a faulty installation or defective/damaged at an RV Show issue. I went to a LaMesa RV Show where most of the "new" RVs were really beat up inside. I would be embarrassed to still be trying to sell them as a new RV. Most "G" owners have not reported any issues as long as the track is frequently lubed.
with all the changes you would like them to do , how much more would they have to charge ?
A lot of the changes would actually cost very little, actually. And many others would pay for themselves over time by increasing resale value.
air stream
Not much use to you now, but my guess is that in about 10-12 months, the market is going to be flooded with RVs from people that have found out that the RV thing is not their thing. I had just watched an owner have to replace the cylinder head on his travado/promaster/Ducato with 48k on it, so towards the end, I found it very hard to watch your video thinking not very good thoughts of winnebago/Fiat quality. I was somewhat abated by your decision to buy it again. Appreciate your review.
WOW, I hope that no one that watches your channel, sees this,that would be a potential buyer when you go to sell it. I hope the next one is a much better design for your needs.After all these years on the road, you guys should now have it down pat. Maybe you guys could get a gig with the MFGs and help design the product to how real people use the coaches, especially with your experience and expertise being on the road for all these years.
There are no significant issues with our specific van shown here that aren't general issues with the all models made that year.
Great - Thanks. :-)))) :-))))
I am late to your channel, great review. I am about a year from RVing, I want a class B. However, none seems to meet most needs. I just adopted 2 kitties, they will be traveling with me. I’m curious, do you have a video about traveling with your cat❓
go small live large - another youtuber travels works fulltime from his Travato GL with his cat Luke.. check out his channel.. he did a video on specifically travelling with his cat...
Yes.. we did a 'RVing with Cats' video a couple years back.
The two biggest issues you never mentioned. They are the hitch which is a joke and hasn't been fixed since they released this van and the awning which they should just remove all together and make it an option for those that love the frustration of trying to make it work correctly. Both are highway hazards every time anyone hits the road
We've had no issues with either.
I rewatched and saw Kiki 2 more times. 1 was sneaky and one in the intro. I don’t count the intro.
I mean good thing you guys aren't stuck on that van full time..omg..luckily you can retreat to your boat 🚢..i couldn't imagine that thing more than a commuter vehicle ..if they don't fix you at least have your bus 🚌
There's no luck involved here... all conscious choice & intention.
@@Technomadiaeasy... lol...i was actually just busting your chops..we actually have a very similar set up..and we get that all the time..that we must be rich..rv/ boat minus some of the cool things you guys setups have...plus a home..no van though..watch all your videos and I'm sure nothing is by chance or luck..cheers 🚢 🚌 🚙👍
🖖 I Love Florida State Parks...👍. I called the flaws in my RV personality. LOL ✌❤
Thank you for your honesty… Also been boat people… I would say you should consider critiquing lanyards as the boat. Please make another video… As I’m not gonna spend 80,000+ dollarsPoor poor workmanship
Excellent review. I cant bring myself to buy anything on the promaster chassis. Antiquated suspension, grossly underpowered for the load they carry and it's a dodge. I'm mean really it has a jeep wrangler engine hauling 8k lbs.
Funny...it handles well, drives well and gets great gas mileage for a gas RV. I have driven my Travato across country both Southern and Northern route...and it ran fine...of course if you like driving at 95MPH with that weight I suppose it might be underpowered...but we drove across Texas averaging around 75mph and still got over 18MPG...try that in another RV that can sleep four with a gas engine. Had a Ford E450 abd was lucky to get over 8MPG averaging 57 MPH in my old class C....
“No complaints about the bathroom...” and then rips it apart. I have to say, though, that I still really, really want a Travato G.
No complaints about the bathroom LAYOUT :). And even with all the complaints, we still want a GL.
I don’t think y’all are too picky at all. Wish we allowed foreign competition in the class b segment.
This is why people buy a van and have it custom made to their needs and it still cost less than the manufacturers cost.
There is a lot to be said for DIY conversions - we have a 1961 vintage bus and are very familiar with the trade offs.
And sometimes it is really nice to be able to take advantage of things bigger manufacturers do well.
VOYAGER X G.T.👍👍👍
Why in the world did you buy something so wrong for you? Did you not research or look at the van prior to purchase?
We did tons of research.. and as we ended in the video, we LOVE the van and feel it's a great fit for us. In fact, we're shopping for a new one of the same model.
Want to sale my 2020.5 travato GL are you still locking?
We are open to considering purchasing used.. write us at contact@technomadia.com with the details.
What a nightmare! For all these reasons I’m building my own.
Gas fridge is a deal breaker
The mistake is that you bought a Travato at all. For the price of a Travato or used Travato you could have got something custom and premium with lithium batteries and all electrical appliances. Professional van builds are not that expensive in the grand scheme of things. Especially when you consider RV pricing.
Having done custom before.. we knew we weren't up for the effort for a van that would not be a full time home for us. We consciously chose the trade-offs of going with mass produced.
Why don’t you look at a pleasure way or airstream? Much better build quality
We looked at both.. they layouts didn't work for our needs.
Where did you get the swing arm for the tv?
Amazon
@@Technomadia question again. I just went on Amazon and copy/pasted the word technomadia, but there is a bunch of swing arm type stuff. Can you give me which one it is. Thanks.
If you do this type of video one should do it with the latest model Travato that address many of the complaints you brought up. The new generator is also available now.
When we have a new Travato to share about, we will.
Thank you for taking the time to make the video, however the majority of the criticism on your 5 y/o Travato G have already been addressed in later models.
Which we mentioned in the video and the post - and which is why the video concludes with our plan to get a newer GL.
But a lot of the issues actually do remain, even in the 2020 models.
A couple of things could be easily modified even by this old lady with no fixing experience. Several others have been updated in the 2020.5.
We did make many mods and improvements to our G - but that doesn’t mean that the factory shouldn’t be pushed to do better. 😎
I do not like the tacky Outside Speakers.. It looks like a $100k Boom Box. Coachmen’s Beyond is the best B imho..
The Beyond is nice. I wish other manufacturers would copy the Travato G floor plan though. It is the perfect layout for our needs, and there are no other vans like it in the USA. It is a common style in Europe!
Hi again, Coachmen’s Crosstrek 21xg is the same floor as your Travato and a very good deal. May be worth a look .
We enjoy your technology on the road videos, but not sure what audience this video was designed for-maybe people in the market for a 2016 model? This review of a 2016 rig when 2021s are out, and most of your issues updated over the past 5 model years, could leave some potential buyers thinking that Winnebago hasn’t updated or listened to owners. You might want to connect with the WGO Voices Project where owners have been providing constructive feedback that have resulted in 2021 models with updated refrigerators, new quiet generators, quiet AC with adjustable vents, and Sumos standards. 2021s also have a new Pioneer head Unit. Glad you pointed out that WGO has no control over what Ram offers for safety features. Hopefully potential buyers will do their homework about what is available on new Travatos to see how far these vans have come in 5 years. We are happily fulltiming in our 2016 K and are also looking forward to purchasing our second Travato.
We actually pointed out the things that have already been addressed - and as we concluded the video with - we are actually looking to upgrade to a 2021 model exactly because Winnebago has made so many improvements. But many issues do still remain too.
Have you thought to buy one on Amazon? :)
Great idea! They can probably Prime us one overnight, right??
Did you not research or go through the T before buying?
Of course we did - very thoroughly. We have some videos on our Van hunt here on TH-cam you can go check out.
Sounds like you should just get a whole different van. Way to much complaints
We did get a different van - we now have a 2020.5 GL that fixes many (but not all) of the issues. 😎
Homer Activ so much better than the Travato .
Rich people...but i agree you should still be able to complain about anything you paid for..loved the video
Not sure why the assumption of 'rich'? Our two homes (bus/boat) and vehicle (van) combined cost less than the average household in most locations across the country.
Hey , I'm Rich !
Not sure you guys would ever be happy!!
We are always happy - and always looking for better. :-)
Who cares about noise in a parking lot? Lol
We care about noise absolutely everywhere. Generator noise in particular is unpleasant to be around.
@@Technomadia lol. Find lots of people lounging in parking lots do ya? 😎