Yeah, it's on my top shelf. I paid $199 and do it again in a heart beat. Caught all those notes you were describing. K of K have not tried but hopefully will in bar someday. Cheers!
Good review. I had to pay $250 for mine too. But Jack Daniels is my favorite whiskey. Extremely rare in my area to find anything really sought after for MSRP.
Jack Daniel's is definitely doing interesting things and they are pushing the edges and boundaries of whiskey in really interesting ways. They are working hard to break the image they have of "They're just old no. 7" and it's working.
Great review of the JD 12 , Cam!🥃🥃I lucked out on getting one but I’d love to get another! The King isn’t even on Cali shelves to my knowledge :(( Cheers!
Nice review. I agree on a cap of $150. It doesn’t show very well in blinds with other bottles that are 120 or above in my opinion but that’s not necessarily a fair thing to do to this bottle. It’s fantastic on its own.
People that have an issue with the secondary market need to grow up. If you really want something and you’ll never find it on the shelf go for it if you feel ok with the price. I feel like the only ones who really act like its awful are the connected people that get everything they could ever want from store owners/managers.
I think there are some similarities in notes, but the biggest difference has to be the drinking experience and how the age affects them both. Coy Hill is bombastic, intense, very full-flavored, but lacks refinement. I love it for its fudge brownie and dark fruit notes, but it's not necessarily the most polished whiskey. On the other hand, King of Kentucky has that rich molasses note and the creamy vanilla quality that lets me know it's a highly aged whiskey. I'd call it more sophisticated overall, but still not a shy pour. They're both good for different moods, but overall I'd choose KoK 9 out of 10 times.
I am 100% down with this. That molasses note is so profound and piercing, it almost smells like tar... like creosote or something. The difference between King of Kentucky and JD 12 is that in King, that note punches you in the face. In JD12, the note is shifted more into the background a bit. I wonder what it is that creates that note. I have sensed it on two other bourbons: the Orphan Barrel Rhetoric 25, and surprisingly enough, Parker's Heritage Promise of Hope (which is weird). I don't know where the Rhetoric was sourced from, but the Parker's Heritage is 10 year old Heaven Hill.
There are elements of Coy Hill present in here, as are qualities of JD10, KoK, and even some aged Barton. I would say that this is no substitute for Coy Hill, but there's something about the flavor concentration, molasses, and even a little fudge brownie in here that remind me of it.
I traded a Stagg Jr Batch 14 for the JD12. Cracked mine last night and throughly enjoyed it! Sweet and fruity on the nose, and delicious oak on the palate. I get the typical Jack sulfur / charcoal on the finish. The proof is just right!
Great trade for JD12, and great call on the sulfur/charcoal finish. Couldn't put my finger on it in the video, but I think those notes nail down what I was getting on the finish. The proof is great, just maybe not in side-by-sides with proofier bottles, haha. Cheers!
I was able to pick up the JD 10 Year, but have not even seen a JD 12 Year, even on secondary. Would love to find one at a reasonable price or be able to trade for. 🥃
I see the 12s floating around in some various groups, but the prices are a little scattered right now. I think I may have found one on the cheaper side unless they're truly that volatile, as I'm seeing them around $300 now.
Lost me with the coffee espresso note. PC has it and the old forester 117 whiskey row fire has it and I can't stand it. You saved me from wasting this bottle thank you.
Really like your reviews. You are articulate but never stuffy; casual, informative and sincere. Thank you for your hard work. Best, Tab
I sincerely appreciate you saying that! Cheers Tab!
Great vid! Love your take and it looks great! Cheers!
Thanks dude!
Awesome review Cam. Hopefully I can find a whole bottle at one point or another. Cheers!
Thanks Travis! Cheers man
Just scored this for 150!!! Great review!!! Looking forward to the pour!
Yeah, it's on my top shelf. I paid $199 and do it again in a heart beat. Caught all those notes you were describing. K of K have not tried but hopefully will in bar someday. Cheers!
Good review. I had to pay $250 for mine too. But Jack Daniels is my favorite whiskey. Extremely rare in my area to find anything really sought after for MSRP.
Jack Daniel's is definitely doing interesting things and they are pushing the edges and boundaries of whiskey in really interesting ways. They are working hard to break the image they have of "They're just old no. 7" and it's working.
It really is working! If I had to pick a "distillery to watch" or something like that, I'd probably have to say JD.
Great review of the JD 12 , Cam!🥃🥃I lucked out on getting one but I’d love to get another! The King isn’t even on Cali shelves to my knowledge :(( Cheers!
That's awesome that you found a JD12 dude!! Yeah I think KoK distribution is super limited. But gimme a case of JD12 and I'd be a happy camper :)
@@DrumsAndDrams A case would be fantastic!😁
Nice review. I agree on a cap of $150. It doesn’t show very well in blinds with other bottles that are 120 or above in my opinion but that’s not necessarily a fair thing to do to this bottle. It’s fantastic on its own.
I haven't blinded it, but even in side-by-sides it struggles because of proof. I agree that on its own, it shines!
I got hosed in California. 300
More than $250 now.
$90 retail in Ohio. And I agree, this is great whiskey!
I was close then! $90 is a great price for this bottle, if not underselling it to be honest! Fantastic stuff. Cheers!
People that have an issue with the secondary market need to grow up. If you really want something and you’ll never find it on the shelf go for it if you feel ok with the price. I feel like the only ones who really act like its awful are the connected people that get everything they could ever want from store owners/managers.
How does the JDCH compare?
How would you say KOK and Coy Hill compare?
I think there are some similarities in notes, but the biggest difference has to be the drinking experience and how the age affects them both. Coy Hill is bombastic, intense, very full-flavored, but lacks refinement. I love it for its fudge brownie and dark fruit notes, but it's not necessarily the most polished whiskey. On the other hand, King of Kentucky has that rich molasses note and the creamy vanilla quality that lets me know it's a highly aged whiskey. I'd call it more sophisticated overall, but still not a shy pour. They're both good for different moods, but overall I'd choose KoK 9 out of 10 times.
I am 100% down with this. That molasses note is so profound and piercing, it almost smells like tar... like creosote or something. The difference between King of Kentucky and JD 12 is that in King, that note punches you in the face. In JD12, the note is shifted more into the background a bit.
I wonder what it is that creates that note. I have sensed it on two other bourbons: the Orphan Barrel Rhetoric 25, and surprisingly enough, Parker's Heritage Promise of Hope (which is weird). I don't know where the Rhetoric was sourced from, but the Parker's Heritage is 10 year old Heaven Hill.
I believe the rhetorics were from the old bernheim distillery
How do you think Jack 12 compares to Coy Hill?
Personally id rather have the 12
There are elements of Coy Hill present in here, as are qualities of JD10, KoK, and even some aged Barton. I would say that this is no substitute for Coy Hill, but there's something about the flavor concentration, molasses, and even a little fudge brownie in here that remind me of it.
Always looking…. But super difficult in a controlled state.
I'm with you!
Two fifty is a deal forzJD 12
JD 10 > JD 12 in my opinion
That's great for you as it's relatively accessible
@@MrJbolding23 I find JD 12 to be over-oaked but that is just me
but Roy the oak is so goooooooood :)
@DrumsAndDrams Yes I get what you mean=)....I guess for 150 or less then I would buy again!...Do you think michters 10 2023 can compete with KOK?
KOK is in my opinion the GOAT. And JD12 was way too banana/acetone forward for me to enjoy
KoK is definitely a modern GOAT, especially some of the better barrels. We have to agree to disagree on JD 12 though :)
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I traded a Stagg Jr Batch 14 for the JD12. Cracked mine last night and throughly enjoyed it! Sweet and fruity on the nose, and delicious oak on the palate. I get the typical Jack sulfur / charcoal on the finish. The proof is just right!
Great trade for JD12, and great call on the sulfur/charcoal finish. Couldn't put my finger on it in the video, but I think those notes nail down what I was getting on the finish. The proof is great, just maybe not in side-by-sides with proofier bottles, haha. Cheers!
@@DrumsAndDrams Cheers man! Love the channel
I was able to pick up the JD 10 Year, but have not even seen a JD 12 Year, even on secondary. Would love to find one at a reasonable price or be able to trade for. 🥃
I see the 12s floating around in some various groups, but the prices are a little scattered right now. I think I may have found one on the cheaper side unless they're truly that volatile, as I'm seeing them around $300 now.
Lost me with the coffee espresso note. PC has it and the old forester 117 whiskey row fire has it and I can't stand it. You saved me from wasting this bottle thank you.
Its so good. Just so good.
I could’ve saved 11 mins just by saying this lol
@@DrumsAndDrams yeah but still worth giving your notes and full opinion