I am half jealous half grateful. Half living vicariously, half living it. Half being a hater, half calling people haters. I have JD12 and I picked it up at a steal ($90), but have never seen Russell's 13 in the wild. I am Harvey Dent. Awesome video! I hated it.
Being fortunate enough to have both of these, and having off tomorrow as I go on vacation, I decided to do this alongside your video. I came up with nose to JD, palate to Russels, and then the finish to the JD. The flavor just goes on and on. Cheers Mr Porter, and thanks for all the entertainment.
Starting to feel lucky i grabbed a Michter's 10 2023. Almost passed on it but grabbed it and a 4 roses LE 2022. Haven't opened the Michter's yet. Going to wait til it is autumn. I want the weather to be perfect for this experience. Cheers Matt
Thanks Matt, nice review! For me, pallet is the most important part of the experience, although whiskey does last alot longer if you try to consume it primarily by sniffing / nosing… finish is what you are just left to think about when the glass is, sniff(sad), empty.
I know where a Michters 10 is in Flagstaff AZ, but it's $250. lol I have both the JD12 and RR13. Really looking forward to trying them, but those are weight loss milestone bottles, so it may be awhile. lol
Love the head to head, but gotta respectfully disagree with ya lol I personally found jd 12 to be wonderful for about 15 seconds, then the jack daniels note hits me in the finish and ruins it for me. While the RR is consistent and more classically done. Somehow, JD ryes dont have that strong jack note, and i enjoy those quite a bit, but I cant get past that note in their bourbons...cheers, Matt!
It’s interesting, Mash & Drum did this same blind and he chose the RR. I was lucky to find both so am eager to find out which of you I agree with! Looking forward to the 2023 Advent Calendar tastings! Cheers Matt 🥃🎄🎅
Here where I am in Ny we never seem to get the big releases. I asked my local store to put me down if they got a JD12. To my surprised within a few weeks I got a call. They got some in and had one for me at msrp. I still haven’t cracked it (just waiting on a special day). I felt extremely lucky lok
I thought I might need a bottle of that Jack. I found one for $650. Nope! Not today. I didn't pass in school but I will pass on that. Thanks for the review though.
Had the JD12 but it was a sample between Elmer T Lee and Thomas H Handy. Love store picks of RR and I would love to find a bottle of that for myself. Great face-off!
See, I told ya on the stream and looks like i was 100% right! Glad to know I can read your poker face😜 seriously top top tier whiskey, absolutely wild stuff
I'm still looking for RR13, but between the M10B and JD12.. JD12 winds hands down. I do really enjoy the M10 Bourbon though! The pour I've had of an older batch of RR13 was incredible though but I didn't compare back to back against the JD12.
The Jack 12 kicks Mitcher’s 10 year butt. Mitcher’s 10 is truly exceptional so you know that JD 12 is freaking phenomenal!! Haven’t tried the RR13 but trying (ISO) to get a date with it. Hopefully goes better than my regular dating situation. We all can’t be as sexy as Mr. Porter!!
Well Matt Porteraughey….having done some things I’m not entirely proud of to obtain that trifecta (JD12, RR13 & M10B), I can say that there is no question in my mind that JD12 is the clear cut winner of that skirmish.
Just got a RR13 and need to dive into it. JD12 has one of the best noses but such a dissatisfying finish in my opinion. Ill want to compare these blind myself too so as to avoid bias
Trying not to spoil the vid by reading the comments, but I've got both of these bottles but i just haven't opened the 13 yet to try. Now, i have a reason.
I agree that JD12 is a little better than RR13... 8.0 to 7.8 on my scale... But both fell short of my crazy high expectations.... Life lesson... Don't have crazy high expectations to avoid disappointment. I agree, the nose on the JD12 is one of the best things you'll ever smell... But after that high, high note I found the palette to just be "meh." Good flavors but VERY muted. Then the finish comes back nicely. As is often the case, if you can find these at MSRP they are phenomenal bottles at that price point. But I don't think either are worth what they get on secondary... But... Most things aren't... Except the Coy Hill... That one is probably worth it.
@@Aquasphere513 8.2+ (My top shelf minimum score) that I currently have... George T Stagg 2019; Stagg Jr.; Penelope Barrel Strength Toasted Store Pick; Lucky Seven 14 Year; Elijah Craig Barrel Proof Store Pick; JD Coy Hill; Redwood Empire Haystack 14; Four Gate Kelvin 4; Obtanium ADHD Pick; Doc Swinson Exploratory French Toasted; Bomberger's 2020; Rare Character Straight Rye ADHD Pick; Alberta Premium Cask Strength Rye; Blue Note Uncut store pick (...and yes, the store picks are all the same store... they're good at it... and of course, Sir Matt is amazing with his ADHD picks!)
Neither of these I will never see or own. So it’s great you’re able to do this but it has zero impact on what I’m drinking. Just saying. It’s the same with Stagg Bookers any BTAC bottle. I’ll never see one let alone own one. And I’m okay with that. Enjoy!!
Same but I cracked the 10. While the 10 is good, wasn’t blown away. The nose is better than the palate IMO. But also need to fresh crack the 12 and let that thing air out
I'm sure I'll never get a shot at tasting these. Which is a shame, especially since birds nests filled with candy orange slices is one of my favorite tasting notes.
To my untrained palate, both of these are phenomenal bottles. They each offer completely different amazing experiences. Choosing one over the other would be a difficult decision, so why not choose both? Fortunately, both were obtained at MSRP. I feel the JD12 is the better value, and RR13 is a bit overpriced at $149.
@tscherer7542 Oregon, everything is sold at MSRP. The challenge is getting a store to sell it to you. Gotta be a good customer, tip the employees and develop relationships. Bar and restaurant accounts always get first dibs otherwise.
Yeah, a lot of liquor "stores" are putting them behind the counter for like $400 even though MSRP is something like 70 or 80. Spoiler, it's not worth $400.
Somehow, American Whiskey surpassed Scotch Whisky as the most pretentious and overpriced Whisk(e)y spirit in the world. I think it’s even worse than Japanese Whisky. Just as proof of this, Jack Daniels 10 and 12 years and Russell’s 13 year go for over $200 a bottle. In comparison, I can head to any liquor store and buy a 10-14 year Arran, Bruichladdich, Bunnahabhain…etc, for $50-$90. These Whiskies are just about better in every way possible. It’s time to let these American Distilleries know we want the age statements without the ridiculous prices. This is why Elijah Craig and Knob Creek are killing it for value in age stated bourbon. That’s my take.
I am half jealous half grateful. Half living vicariously, half living it. Half being a hater, half calling people haters. I have JD12 and I picked it up at a steal ($90), but have never seen Russell's 13 in the wild. I am Harvey Dent. Awesome video! I hated it.
$90 is a steal for sure.
I have the opposite problem. I got the RR13. Never even seen a JD12 in stores at museum prices.
I have both. I am black max, and I approve this message.
I haven’t seen the Jack 12 for under $500, I did see Russels 13 at $450. Crazy prices that a poor working manlike can’t afford
@@Rickhouse.You forgot the "Mu wah ha ha."
Being fortunate enough to have both of these, and having off tomorrow as I go on vacation, I decided to do this alongside your video. I came up with nose to JD, palate to Russels, and then the finish to the JD. The flavor just goes on and on. Cheers Mr Porter, and thanks for all the entertainment.
that is such a good description of the smells with the exhaust and catalytic converter!!
Starting to feel lucky i grabbed a Michter's 10 2023. Almost passed on it but grabbed it and a 4 roses LE 2022. Haven't opened the Michter's yet. Going to wait til it is autumn. I want the weather to be perfect for this experience. Cheers Matt
I did this same thing the other night. 13 is one of my very favorite things in the world. It was closer than I thought it would be.
Thanks Matt, nice review! For me, pallet is the most important part of the experience, although whiskey does last alot longer if you try to consume it primarily by sniffing / nosing… finish is what you are just left to think about when the glass is, sniff(sad), empty.
I know where a Michters 10 is in Flagstaff AZ, but it's $250. lol I have both the JD12 and RR13. Really looking forward to trying them, but those are weight loss milestone bottles, so it may be awhile. lol
Either way… you Matt are the clear winner here! I do agree with your assessment 🥃
Love the head to head, but gotta respectfully disagree with ya lol I personally found jd 12 to be wonderful for about 15 seconds, then the jack daniels note hits me in the finish and ruins it for me. While the RR is consistent and more classically done. Somehow, JD ryes dont have that strong jack note, and i enjoy those quite a bit, but I cant get past that note in their bourbons...cheers, Matt!
It’s interesting, Mash & Drum did this same blind and he chose the RR. I was lucky to find both so am eager to find out which of you I agree with! Looking forward to the 2023 Advent Calendar tastings! Cheers Matt 🥃🎄🎅
Here where I am in Ny we never seem to get the big releases. I asked my local store to put me down if they got a JD12. To my surprised within a few weeks I got a call. They got some in and had one for me at msrp. I still haven’t cracked it (just waiting on a special day). I felt extremely lucky lok
So it’s been a while but are you svelt and more hammered now than before. Big fan and glad you are toning down to drink up
I tried both JD12 and M10 2023 side by side, and believe JD12 is better
Won't be able to find or afford either of these but love hearing your take
I thought I might need a bottle of that Jack. I found one for $650. Nope! Not today. I didn't pass in school but I will pass on that. Thanks for the review though.
There’s one for 180 where I am. I got the 10 for $100 instead. Not upset
Once the JD12 has time to open up (aka not the neck pour) I agree it is much better than RR13, which says a lot since RR13 is amazing
Simutarigolist….seems like a great career path. Great review! Need more Porter!
I’m definitely steering my sons down the path of being an Alphabetologist…without a 😂😂😂
You and me both buddy. I need the M10 Bourbon to go along with my bottle of the M10 Rye that is phenomenal.
Similartologist? Learned something new today, thanks WTWT!
Had the JD12 but it was a sample between Elmer T Lee and Thomas H Handy. Love store picks of RR and I would love to find a bottle of that for myself. Great face-off!
See, I told ya on the stream and looks like i was 100% right! Glad to know I can read your poker face😜 seriously top top tier whiskey, absolutely wild stuff
Si, great content as always!
Congrats, I haven't been able to score either bottle yet😢
That Jack 12 is some of the best stuff I've ever had. It definitely has many Coy Hill characteristics, just at a lower proof.
I'm still looking for RR13, but between the M10B and JD12.. JD12 winds hands down. I do really enjoy the M10 Bourbon though! The pour I've had of an older batch of RR13 was incredible though but I didn't compare back to back against the JD12.
The Jack 12 kicks Mitcher’s 10 year butt. Mitcher’s 10 is truly exceptional so you know that JD 12 is freaking phenomenal!! Haven’t tried the RR13 but trying (ISO) to get a date with it. Hopefully goes better than my regular dating situation. We all can’t be as sexy as Mr. Porter!!
Hi Matt. Thanks for the great content. Quick question: which glasses are you using and where can I buy those? Thanks
12 yr is very tough to beat. Hard to find. I will drink russels 13 as a sipper any day because it is available right now. JD 12 yr is superior
Citrusy bird's nest as a tasting note is keeping it 💯
Good review
Ha ha ha! Absolutely love your straight pipe vs. emission packed exhaust & so true!! JD 12 is all over the RR 13 period IMO 🥃👊🏻
Simulatoligists! Spit coffee on the keyes...Bourbon extract, I need that...
Russell’s 13 batch 3 has 20,18, 15 and 14 year old bourbon in it
Oh, thanks for the info!
Estoy barracho de Mexico. JD FTW.
RUSSELL'S still mi favorito
Olvidaste ZBiotics, por esto emborrachaste 😂
Look picking between the JD12 and M10B is like being forced to pick your two children. Which is super easy its M10B lol.😊
I have a Michters 10 from this year that is unopened. Hit me up! Great content as always!
Well Matt Porteraughey….having done some things I’m not entirely proud of to obtain that trifecta (JD12, RR13 & M10B), I can say that there is no question in my mind that JD12 is the clear cut winner of that skirmish.
JD12 is not great IMO , not even remotely close to RR13
I thought it was one of the best whiskies ive ever had, what did you not like about it?
Yep, it’s not close for me either.
Michters 10 year Bourbon is better than JD10 by a mile. haven't had the JD12 though
Just got a RR13 and need to dive into it. JD12 has one of the best noses but such a dissatisfying finish in my opinion. Ill want to compare these blind myself too so as to avoid bias
Trying not to spoil the vid by reading the comments, but I've got both of these bottles but i just haven't opened the 13 yet to try. Now, i have a reason.
Fondling glass one
I have jack 12 and michters 10 both at msrp havent seen the R13
If you get them, at MSRP, cool, but more, prbly gonna be sad
I agree that JD12 is a little better than RR13... 8.0 to 7.8 on my scale... But both fell short of my crazy high expectations.... Life lesson... Don't have crazy high expectations to avoid disappointment.
I agree, the nose on the JD12 is one of the best things you'll ever smell... But after that high, high note I found the palette to just be "meh." Good flavors but VERY muted. Then the finish comes back nicely.
As is often the case, if you can find these at MSRP they are phenomenal bottles at that price point. But I don't think either are worth what they get on secondary... But... Most things aren't... Except the Coy Hill... That one is probably worth it.
If you have one, I'd be happy to take the JD12 off your hands 😉
@@baker217 😁 I no longer have it in my possession unfortunately.
Are there bourbons you'd consider a 8+ and if so what are they?
@@Aquasphere513 8.2+ (My top shelf minimum score) that I currently have... George T Stagg 2019; Stagg Jr.; Penelope Barrel Strength Toasted Store Pick; Lucky Seven 14 Year; Elijah Craig Barrel Proof Store Pick; JD Coy Hill; Redwood Empire Haystack 14; Four Gate Kelvin 4; Obtanium ADHD Pick; Doc Swinson Exploratory French Toasted; Bomberger's 2020; Rare Character Straight Rye ADHD Pick; Alberta Premium Cask Strength Rye; Blue Note Uncut store pick (...and yes, the store picks are all the same store... they're good at it... and of course, Sir Matt is amazing with his ADHD picks!)
@@brettbuffum nice
Neither of these I will never see or own. So it’s great you’re able to do this but it has zero impact on what I’m drinking. Just saying. It’s the same with Stagg Bookers any BTAC bottle. I’ll never see one let alone own one. And I’m okay with that. Enjoy!!
I have a JD10 & JD12 sitting unopened, needs to happen sooner or later.
Same but I cracked the 10. While the 10 is good, wasn’t blown away. The nose is better than the palate IMO. But also need to fresh crack the 12 and let that thing air out
I'm sure I'll never get a shot at tasting these. Which is a shame, especially since birds nests filled with candy orange slices is one of my favorite tasting notes.
I got a michters 10. It's amazing
What a heavyweight match!
So what tier does one need to be on Patreon ,
To get to access to your barrel picks etc ?
To my untrained palate, both of these are phenomenal bottles. They each offer completely different amazing experiences. Choosing one over the other would be a difficult decision, so why not choose both? Fortunately, both were obtained at MSRP. I feel the JD12 is the better value, and RR13 is a bit overpriced at $149.
Both found at MRSP?! What state you live in and when can i move there?
@tscherer7542 Oregon, everything is sold at MSRP. The challenge is getting a store to sell it to you. Gotta be a good customer, tip the employees and develop relationships. Bar and restaurant accounts always get first dibs otherwise.
Giving the people what they want 🙌
Julie Likes wheel of confusion is no match the wtwt's nose & palate.
I love me a good battle.... a skirmishly liquid style battle.
An absolute heavyweight of a skirmish......but I forget now, was it a K.O.?
Post the link to your glens bro. Please 😅
M10B is special and is better than both the JD12 and the RR13. I have bunkered 3 M10B’s, 2 RR13’s and 2 JD12 so I guess they are all special.😃
You don't get a vote 🙄
I saw a bottle of JD 12 yr this past weekend and had sticker shock.
Yeah, a lot of liquor "stores" are putting them behind the counter for like $400 even though MSRP is something like 70 or 80. Spoiler, it's not worth $400.
@@red5standingby419 ...yep, 399 in Maryland. The 10 year was 299.
I’ll tell Zach at Bourbon Kingdom to hook you up w the M10. I think he’s 30 of em by now.
Matt's Matthew McConaughey impression is as equally as good a his Trump impression.😅
Alright
JD12 is awesome. Don’t pass on out!
Otherwise known as can one bourbon be better than another bourbon?
The Wonderful Whirling Ouija Wheel of Whiskey. #LikeJulie
Somehow, American Whiskey surpassed Scotch Whisky as the most pretentious and overpriced Whisk(e)y spirit in the world. I think it’s even worse than Japanese Whisky. Just as proof of this, Jack Daniels 10 and 12 years and Russell’s 13 year go for over $200 a bottle. In comparison, I can head to any liquor store and buy a 10-14 year Arran, Bruichladdich, Bunnahabhain…etc, for $50-$90. These Whiskies are just about better in every way possible. It’s time to let these American Distilleries know we want the age statements without the ridiculous prices. This is why Elijah Craig and Knob Creek are killing it for value in age stated bourbon. That’s my take.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Tennessee better than Kentucky 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Your killin me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Big dogs there
Jack 12 is unreal
It is very real. It is a legit real thing. Which makes it impossible for it to be unreal.
@@Kam-Bogey thanks drax from guardians of the galaxy
Is Jimmy looking for any new friends?
Looking for someone to adopt me!
Bro, you losing weight?
Good for you man!