Is Daniel Jones actually a good quarterback?
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Giants fans are a tough crowd to please but I always appreciate the brutal honesty, rather than the blind optimist. Thought everything you said was fair, good video
Biggest asset of Daniel Jones: He doesn’t feel pressure.
Biggest flaw of Daniel Jones: He doesn’t feel pressure.
And both aspects improve with time and experience and a good online
@@MVPBallingD.Rose96 oline*
Catrad - Brawl Stars *tips hat*
I think PFF once dubbed this phenomenon the “Mccown Effect” where a QB plays at an elite level because they are so bad at feeling pressure that it becomes almost an advantage.
Other good examples of this are Nick Foles in the playoffs and Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Live by the sword, die by the sword
Def Coordinator: Zone Blitz.
Daniel Jones: Welcome to Jackass.
Bruh😂😂😂😂😂
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🤣🤣🤣 that's my guy though
Solid comment lol.
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Quick Synopsis:
Strengths: Toughness, work ethic, athleticism, short and intermediate ball placement, at times really good ability to move through progressions.
Weaknesses: Can't feel pressure, doesn't know when and where to go when pressure arrives, leading to a ton of turnovers and potential turnovers, struggles mightily to place balls correctly on deep throws, especially against zone coverage.
Conclusion: Maybe a good QB.
out of 10 he is a 6-7
@@ghostofury9755 How would you rate the other 2019 QBs?
@@thomascusack687 let me pour some time onto that
Thomas Cusack
Kyler Murray - 9/10
Daniel Jones - 7/10
Dwayne Haskins - 6/10
Drew Lock - 8/10
Using this same concept wouldn't a rookie Peyton Manning being a 2-3/10
Short answer: maybe
Long answer: ehh idk
This is just the Giants in general for the next few years lol
@@airbornecheeseburger3121 and last 20
short answer: no
long answer: lol no
@@osbert were not talking about your chances of getting laid
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Short answer: maybe
Long answer: maybe
Not no ya hater
First line: “is he good? No clue” BRETT COME ONNN
At least he's not one of those jackasses that has an interesting thumbnail, but hides the answer behind ten minutes of rambling nothing.
Pretty sure the first line was "This week's episode is sponsored by misen"
@@SonicMegaKing *cough* *cough* TPS *cough* *cough*
@Jack Arnsick Daniel Jones is hard to figure out. One game he would completely dominate and the next game he would commit 3 turnovers. He's the definition of a work in progress.
To be fair, I watched him in college for years (Duke fan) and I still don’t know.
one of the most entertaining part of being subscribed here is the anticipation of a video being late
My motto is basically "Hurry up and wait" at this point lol
Tis part of the mystique
@@BrettKollmann take your time but hurry up
@@BrettKollmann Everytime you announce a new video on Twitter, I make sure to set my alarm a few days after the said release date
Brett this was an absolutely fantastic video! And that is coming from a New York Giants TH-camr very well done! You are truly a gift to the Sports TH-cam communnity. I would love to have you on to talk about Jones if you would want to come on and talk anytime.
Ayyyye
That would be awesome!
Yesssss!
An Entertainah and Brett Collab... pleaaass
Chris you’re the goat my man. Keep it up.
As a Giants fan, I agree with a lot of this assessment. He was a rookie last season, and sometimes I feel like he tried to make too many plays when they weren’t there.
Also had a terrible coaching staff. I feel like you’ll see a vast improvement this season.
He’s got a lot of talent, just has too work on his weaknesses.
And he will.
I’m eagles fan Danny dimes (yes I’m calling him dime ) is the most underrated qb in the nfl
2 years later Dog do you still agree with most of his assessment?
"Tougher than a $2 steak"
Now thats one tough boi
toughness won us 2 superbowls so ill take it
Can we get one of these for minshew I think the man deserves much more respect
He’s a Texans fan either we get nothing or he shits on him
Wayne Flohr nah I’m a Texans fan and you gotta respect him, reminds me of a budget joe burrow
Wayne Flohr to be fair, he did do 3 videos on the colts
What did minshew do so well? He didn't win, didn't put up impressive stats. What is it you guys see in him?
Well he got more wins than Kyler Murray Daniel Jones Dwayne Haskins and drew lock. He threw more touchdowns than Kyler even though he had a lot less snaps. And he threw half the interceptions than Kyler.
NGL the reason that Darnolds time to sack was so low was that his oline was literally the worst pass blocking line in the NFL, and the reason Dak time to sack was so high is that their oline is god-tier.
Derek E meh he can move but he’s not super Mobile
Darnold has a pretty high time for the quality of his line
Derek E ok thanks for your important contribution. It really shows how little you know about the sport and the Jets in particular, but good for you for putting your opinion out on the internet.
Derek E The patriots made mahomes see ghosts as well. Most qbs see ghosts in their career, Sam darnold just got caught saying it
Derek E Zero blitz is how the patriots beat the jets. Nearly every play the patriots blitzed, and the jets never adjusted. The coaches needed to adjust by either having more check downs or by finding a way to buy darnold a little more time so a post downfield could develop. The jets did neither
Would love to hear your take on Gardner minshew
Me too.
I need it
Def agree
This
Not saying he will be havent seen enough yet but to me minshew reminds me of tony Romo some Romo like magic in pocket not a true great arm but more than good enough really good arm strength an velocity mobile enough a solid / good athlete know what I mean nice touch all of those things will do somethings that make you say what was that but B type + type talent in a way got a lot of Romo vibes lol makes magic happen an when it don’t work you like what the ??? Lol
-Passer rating on 3+ separation yds is 127.3, 4th in the league.
-Passer rating on play action is 110.9, 10th in the league.
-Only QB with 4 completions of 60+ yds
-3rd in catchable deep passes.
-2nd in vertical deep passing TD’s.
-Vertical deep passer rating is 137.5
-Total deep passer rating is 94.9.
-Top 10 most accurate intermediate thrower.
-Completed 68.9% of his passes when thrown less then 2.5 seconds.
-Had a higher QBR then Aaron Rodgers.
-4th in the league in TD’s per start.
-5th in the league in money throws per start. (Throws that are Athletic & Skilled)
-10th best QB under pressure (rare for a rookie), while being the most pressured QB.
-14-19, 243 yds, 1 TD in a game under pressure, (no QB has more yds in a game under pressure).
-6/10, 68 yards, 3 TD in a game under pressure, (no QB has more then 3+TD’s in a game under pressure).
-Only rookie in history with 300/4/0 in a game with 4 games. The teams he did that against, DET held Mahomes 0 TD’s. TB held Watson 0 TD’s. NYJ held Dak 0 TD’s. Jones was 12/16, 90 yds, 3 TD’s to 3rd string players vs WAS.
-4th all time in TD’s for a rookie, with 4 less starts then the other top 4 all time.
-Out of the top 5 rookie TD leaders in NFL history, Jones & Wilson are the only ones with atleast 2.0 TD/INT ratio.
-Jones & Watson are the only rookie QB’s in NFL History to average atleast 2 passing TD’s per start.
-Most aggressive QB over 300 attempts
-His WR’s were bottom of the league in seperation.
-His WR’s dropped the 9th highest rate of passes.
-His tackles allowed the most pressures in the league.
-Most hit QB in just 12 games.
-Injures to his RB, WR, & TE on IR.
-17-46 HC.
-In 9 starts with Saquon in the lineup, Jones has a 95.5 Passer rating, 21 TD’s, 6 INT, 63%.
Jones rushing in 12 starts :
-Ran a 4.67 on his pro day
-Got up to 19.51 mph (3rd among QB’s)
-Ranked 3rd among QB’s last year in yards per scramble (8.4 yards).
-Rushed for a 1st down on 46.7% of his rushing attempts which was 2nd among QB’s.
-Finished 6th among QBs in rushing EPA.
-2nd in the NFL in yards per carry at 6.2, behind Lamar at 6.9.
-1st in the NFL in yards before contact at 5.2
-Averaged 10.6 yards per attempt on RPO plays last season. 3rd best among quarterbacks (minimum 20 attempts).
-1 of 6 rookie QB’s in NFL history to have 20 TD’s, 3000 passing yds, 200 rushing yds.
Rookie QB’s last 5 starts :
Jones last 5 : 93.2 RTG. 61.1 QBR.
13 TD. 7 TO (1.8 TD/TO Ratio)
Lock last 5 : 89.7 RTG. 48.3 QBR.
7 TD. 4 TO (1.7 TD/TO Ratio)
Haskins last 5 : 91.3 RTG. 41.4 QBR.
5 TD. 4 TO (1.2 TD/TO Ratio)
Minschew last 5 : 87.1 RTG. 35.1 QBR.
8 TD. 2 TO (4.0 TD/TO Ratio)
Murray last 5 : 80.5 RTG. 40.2 QBR.
6 TD. 9 TO (0.6 TD/TO Ratio)
Jones last 3/5 teams he faced were ranked 5th, 8th, & 12th in worst RTG allowed. While having the 2nd highest TD/TO ratio.
Also Jones has the highest QBR & only QBR above league average last 5 games.
I'm taking this guy over anyone drafted last year. Wentz fumbles 16 times last year and no one says shit. Fumbles are the easiest thing to fix. Not saying he's gonna be peyton manning, but peyton threw almost 30 INTs his rookie year, and his career was alright lol. Lamar jackson had all those fumbles his rookie year, and yet he played amazing last year. Dude had the worst Oline in the league, and most of his weapons hurt all year, no one says shit. People gloss over his play to focus on the fumbles.
These people are idiots. Of course we know his negatives, but imo his positives outshine his negatives. All his issues are fixable. Guy only played 1 year and y'all calling him Winston, get outta here.
PREACH
He'll be a backup in a year.
Good for u
U looked up stats
But are ignoring the win/lose ratio
@@saquadsbarkley4643 Yes because DJ is the one blocking, catching, coaching, playing D. GTFO I HATE fans like you who put everything on one player. As a rookie this guy was a monster. If he played in all 16 games he would have probably had the rookie TD, and yards record.
Jones over any QB from last years draft. in 12 starts :
-Passer rating on 3+ separation yds is 127.3, 4th in the league.
-Passer rating on play action is 110.9, 10th in the league.
-Only QB with 4 completions of 60+ yds
-3rd in catchable deep passes.
-2nd in vertical deep passing TD’s.
-Vertical deep passer rating is 137.5
-Total deep passer rating is 94.9.
-Top 10 most accurate intermediate thrower.
-Completed 68.9% of his passes when thrown less then 2.5 seconds.
-Had a higher QBR then Aaron Rodgers.
-4th in the league in TD’s per start.
-5th in the league in money throws per start. (Throws that are Athletic & Skilled)
-10th best QB under pressure (rare for a rookie), while being the most pressured QB.
-14-19, 243 yds, 1 TD in a game under pressure, (no QB has more yds in a game under pressure).
-6/10, 68 yards, 3 TD in a game under pressure, (no QB has more then 3+TD’s in a game under pressure).
-Only rookie in history with 300/4/0 in a game with 4 games. The teams he did that against, DET held Mahomes 0 TD’s. TB held Watson 0 TD’s. NYJ held Dak 0 TD’s. Jones was 12/16, 90 yds, 3 TD’s to 3rd string players vs WAS.
-4th all time in TD’s for a rookie, with 4 less starts then the other top 4 all time.
-Out of the top 5 rookie TD leaders in NFL history, Jones & Wilson are the only ones with atleast 2.0 TD/INT ratio.
-Jones & Watson are the only rookie QB’s in NFL History to average atleast 2 passing TD’s per start.
-Most aggressive QB over 300 attempts
-His WR’s were bottom of the league in seperation.
-His WR’s dropped the 9th highest rate of passes.
-His tackles allowed the most pressures in the league.
-Most hit QB in just 12 games.
-Injures to his RB, WR, & TE on IR.
-17-46 HC.
-In 9 starts with Saquon in the lineup, Jones has a 95.5 Passer rating, 21 TD’s, 6 INT, 63%.
-Had 26 TD's and 12 INTs in only 12 games and if you prorate that he would have 35 TD's and 16 INT's, which is 2nd in the league in total TD's behind only Lamar Jackson
Jones rushing in 12 starts :
-Ran a 4.67 on his pro day
-Got up to 19.51 mph (3rd among QB’s)
-Ranked 3rd among QB’s last year in yards per scramble (8.4 yards).
-Rushed for a 1st down on 46.7% of his rushing attempts which was 2nd among QB’s.
-Finished 6th among QBs in rushing EPA.
-2nd in the NFL in yards per carry at 6.2, behind Lamar at 6.9.
-1st in the NFL in yards before contact at 5.2
-Averaged 10.6 yards per attempt on RPO plays last season. 3rd best among quarterbacks (minimum 20 attempts).
-1 of 6 rookie QB’s in NFL history to have 20 TD’s, 3000 passing yds, 200 rushing yds.
@@ottoohno1431 Numbers a hell of a lot easier to take out of context than film. Also some of the numbers he posted weren't even accurate. PFF had his deep passer rating at 29th in the league at 74.2, so I'm not sure where he got 94 from.
@@BrettKollmann sportsinfosolutionsblog.com/2020/01/07/who-were-the-best-quarterbacks-throwing-long-passes-in-2019/
If you go off deep ball accuracy and not completion percentage since all his WRs/TEs/RBs were hurt all year than yes, he easily had one of the best deep balls in the NFL last year. Pretty hard to be the 29th worst deep ball thrower when your accuracy was 3rd in the league my dude. Especially when you take into account his shit offensive line who was forcing him to get hit on most of those deep ball throws.
@@stopidvideos The last third of the video addresses that exact point. Catchable pass percentage doesn't really matter when your completion percentage is so low because you can't throw with your receiver's leverage. Those are two different, but heavily connected stats (and not in a good way).
@@BrettKollmann How is having that a bad stat to have? I just think the media at large has gotten his deep ball accuracy wrong ever since the draft and while he didn't throw a lot of his WR's open, it's kinda hard when you're throwing to Cody Lattimore, Russell Shepard, Kaden Smith, Wayne Gallman, and Corey Coleman majority of the year (who aren't starters and who made the Giants WR core the dead last WR core in terms of separation ability, which is likely why he was so high in accuracy but not completion percentage, because you can't throw someone open when they can't create separation so the CB can't make a play). Plus, he ranked 9th in drops, and while a lot of the passes he threw weren't considered drops, he was #1 in tight window passes per game which is likely due to his WRs being shit in terms of separation ability and is likely why his deep ball ACCURACY was better than Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, or Patrick Mahomes but not better completion percentage wise (meaning he threw the ball within a yard of the WR more often then they did). I just don't see how the correlation is negative when his WR's were dead last in separation, can you explain? If he had healthy/great skill position/OLine play who were consistently giving him separation, sure, I would agree, but when you are talking about a rookie who is playing with 2nd/3rd string guys, you gotta give him some slack and realize this dude is a better deep ball thrower than majority of the league until he proves otherwise imo. Especially since his Oline gives him no time and is making him get hit every time he tries to give the play some time to grow to allow him to go deep.
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He’s decent because he has an all-time (in the record books already) RB behind him.
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Breezy That all time running back wasnt even healthy half the season. Lmmfao
Andrew Thomas should definitely help the fumbling issues, not to mention Danny has been working on that as well.
Exactly. The O line didnt help Jones at all... a young QB cant improve his play if hes getting hit a half second after the snap.. he cant even set his feet half the time
A run first team will help that as well. That means Jones won’t average 38 attempts a start, he’ll average around 27-28, similar to Ryan Tannehill last year. That means less fumbles & more efficiency due to the strong run game setting up good field position to score.
NY Land sounds good
Most guys with fumbling issues in college keep them in the NFL. Jones had huge ball security issues at Duke and he continues to have them now. He'll probably continue to have them in the future. That doesn't mean he can't be a good QB, but it will be a problem for a long time I think.
tim4pele All QB’s fumble. Wilson has 8+ fumbles his last 4 seasons, lead the league with 14 in 2017. Wentz has 9+ fumbles his last 4 seasons. The last 3 MVP’s fumbled atleast 7 times a piece. It’s about reducing the fumbles which can easily be by better pocket movement & less passing attempts per game due to the strong run game.
Literally such a high quality channel bro
My favorite time of the week. Sitting down on the couch/toilet and watching a Brett Kollmann video.
Anybody else re watch that Everson Griffin spin move
Yeah he is definitely on his way up in the league
Better than spinning out of the ambulance naked like a year ago...
Jones passing in 12 starts :
-Passer rating on 3+ separation yds is 127.3, 4th in the league.
-Passer rating on play action is 110.9, 10th in the league.
-Only QB with 4 completions of 60+ yds
-3rd in catchable deep passes.
-2nd in vertical deep passing TD’s.
-Vertical deep passer rating is 137.5
-Total deep passer rating is 94.9.
-Top 10 most accurate intermediate thrower.
-Completed 68.9% of his passes when thrown less then 2.5 seconds.
-Had a higher QBR then Aaron Rodgers.
-4th in the league in TD’s per start.
-5th in the league in money throws per start. (Throws that are Athletic & Skilled)
-10th best QB under pressure (rare for a rookie), while being the most pressured QB.
-14-19, 243 yds, 1 TD in a game under pressure, (no QB has more yds in a game under pressure).
-6/10, 68 yards, 3 TD in a game under pressure, (no QB has more then 3+TD’s in a game under pressure).
-Only rookie in history with 300/4/0 in a game with 4 games. The teams he did that against, DET held Mahomes 0 TD’s. TB held Watson 0 TD’s. NYJ held Dak 0 TD’s. Jones was 12/16, 90 yds, 3 TD’s to 3rd string players vs WAS.
-4th all time in TD’s for a rookie, with 4 less starts then the other top 4 all time.
-Out of the top 5 rookie TD leaders in NFL history, Jones & Wilson are the only ones with atleast 2.0 TD/INT ratio.
-Jones & Watson are the only rookie QB’s in NFL History to average atleast 2 passing TD’s per start.
-Most aggressive QB over 300 attempts
-His WR’s were bottom of the league in seperation.
-His WR’s dropped the 9th highest rate of passes.
-His tackles allowed the most pressures in the league.
-Most hit QB in just 12 games.
-Injures to his RB, WR, & TE on IR.
-17-46 HC.
-In 9 starts with Saquon in the lineup, Jones has a 95.5 Passer rating, 21 TD’s, 6 INT, 63%.
Jones rushing in 12 starts :
-Ran a 4.67 on his pro day
-Got up to 19.51 mph (3rd among QB’s)
-Ranked 3rd among QB’s last year in yards per scramble (8.4 yards).
-Rushed for a 1st down on 46.7% of his rushing attempts which was 2nd among QB’s.
-Finished 6th among QBs in rushing EPA.
-2nd in the NFL in yards per carry at 6.2, behind Lamar at 6.9.
-1st in the NFL in yards before contact at 5.2
-Averaged 10.6 yards per attempt on RPO plays last season. 3rd best among quarterbacks (minimum 20 attempts).
-1 of 6 rookie QB’s in NFL history to have 20 TD’s, 3000 passing yds, 200 rushing yds.
Statistically, not looking bad at all.
Jones is only going to get better. Hopefully Joe Judge can build around him
@@AG-SYS He's actually quite bad statistically. It's just what you want to look at. This guy choose good stats (note: some of these stats are flat out made up)
In any case, stats mean nothing. The good or the bad. It's all about how he gets there and he was quite bad at that.
Zap Rowsdower your an idiot it’s all narratives if Haskins had the same season as Jones ESPN Madden PFF and all these other assholes that control the narrative would be putting him in the hall of fame near future MVP. dude looks like the worst quarterback everrrr yet he gets a pass because before the draft people wanted him including giant fans. until he wins the Super Bowl he’s always going to be bad it’s just the narrative of it Jones was the worst quarterback ever drafted in the history of the NFL apparently😂😂😂😂
Zap Rowsdower no other rookie quarterback has ever put up 300yards+ 4TDs 0 INTs Jones did that 4 times your an idiot dude and go back and look at the video half of the passes he said had bad placement there was literally three or four example And all of the receiver could’ve fought thru and caught especially the one with shepherd in the Endzone against the Vikings dude straight up dropped the ball I don’t know what the fuck this guy is looking at
Yes he is Don't forget every quarterback need A-line to block for them
But not Kyler
A quarterback also needs to leverage the STRENGTH of their line. Did you not watch the parts of the video where Jone's being oblivious of pressure at times had him stepping up where his protection can't get to him? Russell Wilson arguably had a worse O-Line than Daniel Jones and he knows how to move in the pocket but he's not putting himself in constant bad spots to get pummeled by defensive line men.
Who else waiting for Brett to call him “The next Jameis Winston”
Chill out he ain't that his turnovers are being stripped and sacked not throwing the ball a mile
@@matthewgutierrez9588 So his interceptions totals do not matter? So if #8 gets double digit interceptions and fumbles for a 2nd straight year then...... will you SEE?
Damn Daniel you got it perfect
Matthew Gutierrez But only because he CAN’T throw the ball a mile 🤣
Matthew Gutierrez he’s not physically capable of throwing the ball a mile THats why lmao.
Brett what are you doing uploading in the actual day and not 1 am, are you going insane?
Probably still awake from last night
If Josh rosen had the rookie year Daniel jones had these so called draft experts would tell you he was the next peyton manning people are afraid to admit they were wrong about dj it's so sad
if minshew was a 1st round pick and went to a relevant team he would of won the roty. my man daniel jones has all the spotlights on him in ny
Funny enough, these two qbs have largely the same problems so ... you might want to avoid comparisons.
@Simon Z You didn't understand what I said. New York is a big market team, meaning people pay much more attention to them. In comparison, Jacksonville gets nearly no attention from everyone. Also, according to the ranking I'm looking at right now, Jaguars have the 30th best defense while the Giants defense is 28th. The Jaguars also have the 26th best offensive line while the Giants have the 20th best.
Voiy is Gay facts, Gardner is definitely a better QB considering where he is
@Simon Z Lol you still wanna say Daniel Jones is better?
Jones is exactly like me playing QB in madden: Don't see the pressure, don't feel the pressure. Hold the ball, ignore the checkdowns and always try to throw for the biggest route of the play
I play NCAA 14 so not Madden but same thing. I see the blitz coming before the play but my brain says screw it, I got thi...sacked!!!
Would love to see a film analysis of Peyton Manning's rookie season
FINALLY MY PAIN AND SUFFERING HAS ARRIVED
This has been in the works literally all offseason😂
Easily one of your best videos, very insightful. Great use of visuals to underline what you were saying.
As a die-hard Broncos fan, I am really excited to see that Drew Lock in on you list of upcoming episodes. But, I do wonder, is there NFL game film on him to fill out a full 20+ minute video? If your analysis on Daniel Jones reached the determination of, well... maybe, I suspect the Drew Lock examination will be even less conclusive.
This is the only channel I know that never once fails to release a very high quality video, and this one is no different! Keep it up Brett.
Great video, however I feel like the facts of having a sub par O Line and being a ROOKIE aren’t stressed enough.
@The Untalented Gamer
The WRs were fine....they were just hurt/Suspended all year
He. Needs. To. WIN
Its been almost 10 years
We havent gone more than ten years without being in the big game since 86'.
Alot of people just soaked up all the national media's hate for Jones at the draft without A- Probably ever seeing him play and B- actually giving him a chance to play and develop. I studied all the rookie QBs this off-season and Jones was the most impressive in my opinion. He doesn't have the highest upside and NEEDS to stop fumbling but he's got legit starting QB skills. Love his poise. Y'all have to stop watching first take type shows and just regurgitating their opinions
He is young and I feel he has the mind set and work ethic to be a great QB in a few years.
17:16 I hate to see Jones on Jones violence.
I cannot emphasize enough how cool the music you put right before and right after the video is
So basically he’s a rookie with upside? Sounds about right
I think Jones will have a similar season to last year’s Ryan Tannehill. Last year Jones averaged 38 attempts a start, Tannheill averaged attempted 27 attempts a start. We’re going back to a run first team with Saquon back at full strength, improved O’line, also Engram & Shepard back at full strength. With more play action unlike Shurmurs offense, Jones passer rating on play action was 110.9, 10th in the league. Also Jones averaging around 10 less attempts a game means less fumbles, and more efficiency due to the strong run game setting up good field position to score, in which he didn’t have in 2019, besides 1 game in which he threw 5 TD’s.
NY Land nice
@@nickc5871 this aged beautifully lmao why did giants fans have any hope
@@nickc5871 I know this is late and the Giants' season is essentially over without Barkley, but even people who were optimistic about Jones' season should not have expected 2019 Tannehill. He literally had Joe Montana type numbers yet everyone just said Henry was the reason the Titans were good
Can you do Haskins next?
If they focus more on the running game and RPOs and shorter routes then that would get the ball out quicker meaning he wouldn’t take so many sacks and Saquon will just do his thing
it would not only take less sacks of him, but preassure and time to improve with his WR core
Play action as well, which is what Garrett’s system is about. Jones passer rating on play action was 110.9, 10th in the league. A strong run game will only help that even more.
This is the best Channel on TH-cam. I love your analysis.
Finally I was waiting for this forever 🤩
Basically Jones has the traits to be a great qb but has some major issues that will keep him average at best if he doesn't fix. Good review and even though I don't agree with everything you said, I think this is one of the most in depth and unbiased breakdowns I have seen on Jones.
It took Eli 3 years to develop into a franchise quarterback... It took Phil Simms 5 years to develop into a franchise quarterback. Not every QB's gonna mature the same rate as others. Be patient, dude has mad potential.
Overall pretty good video here. I think there are some places I question like the criticism on pocket awareness deep ball placement and reading. Aren’t those normal rookie problems? 1. He didn’t get to throw deep much at duke 2. His wrs struggled to really get separation 3. His OL was god awful and made it hard to throw deep 4. He had little to no run game often 5. He’s a rookie getting used to the game and it’s schemes is expected 6. Take away two truly horrendous games vs the pats on a short week and the packers and he has 6 ints in 10 games. 7. The do you think the placement could just be a learning thing? Learning where to put it? Learning where the wr wants it? Gaining chemistry? 8. He was given so many opportunities and he was forced to carry such a unfair and heavy load on a terrible team with lackluster help so can’t you kinda anticipate more mistakes? 9. He was great against man. Like top of the league. I think brushing over that in favor of his bad areas is a disservice to his true evaluation. 10. Remember he’s a rookie. I’m not sure it’s entirely fair to dub him Winston 2.0 when I don’t think they are at all that similar 11. Some of those throws are being made extremely off platform or in a bad situation don’t forget to say that 12. I think yes his decision making was bad and yes he tried to do too much but think about it. He was on a terrible team. No OL. Below average separation. He was drafted 6 overall to NY where he has to be great or he’ll get killed and he was forced to try and carry a completely unfair load and do everything to win games. Can’t you attribute some of that to those things? Like if he didn’t take as many risks as he did the giants would have been in a lot worse of a spot. Like I said I actually liked it a lot overall but in my opinion you glossed over the great things and didn’t truly do them justice and you were extremely critical. If you are going to do that for everyone that’s ok but I think to a extent you were kinda unfair to jones in that you made it seem like it was all him. I think overall coming off last year you have to say he can be a great QB and he can be the franchise guy but it’s too early to tell. When you say stuff like maybe or he’s not good it makes it seem like he must be bad and he’s really not. But like I said that was a great video and analysis. I’d like to see it be less pessimistic and id like to see you give more context and not jump to crazy comparisons like winston. You are obviously very smart though and that was a great breakdown. I’m just happy you didn’t just throw him away already and you explained how he’s also shown awesome ability and how the path to greatness is there.
You were hyping this up on Twitter and sounded like he was bottom 5. Kinda mild compared to other things people have said
Bro, you explain concepts better than most channels on here. Keep up the great work.
You better be nice to my quarterback 😭😭😭😭 he does have promise
The whole city of Denver must have started cheering after seeing Drew Locks name on the list of upcoming episodes lol. Another great video Brett!!
How a 14-7 TD/int ratio is “ok. I guess”? He is a rookie a 2.0 ratio is great actually.
Small sample size, it is good just need to see more.
Theres so much more to football than meets the eye and these videos do an amazing job of explaining it
Did anyone else think of a more athletic Peyton Manning while watching this? Seems like that’s what DJ could be
What??? Peyton Manning has great problems placing balls and feeling pressure?
@@wanlitan7406 Manning's rookie year he threw 28 picks, so yeah, at first.
@@GriffGalore he threw picks by forcing throws not bad ball placement. Also is turnovers problem was interceptions and not fumbling. Daniel Jones is jamies winston with less upside. Because he has a weaker arm
@@potato9722 you will eat crow with the rest.
@@potato9722 hater
Coming off the playoff win against the Vikings, gotta get an updated DJ vid am I right??
Giants fan here. I'll say his assessment was right on. Reading zone D tough for rookie QBs. Pocket awareness is what he needs to work on the most. Think Garrett will do a lot to develop him there. Also think Jones forced to many passes trying to keep Giants in games when D let them down early. Hopefully a healthy Saquon and improved Oline will help him take next step
Thank you for your hard work. I've yet to find another channel where a football topic is truly ANALYSED not just "talk about" in loose terms.
You show a genuine willingness to walk your audience through your reasoning up to the conclusion you reached.
You don't hesitate to say " I don't know" "no way to tell" if that what your analysis yields.
In a cacophony of "hot takes", bombast , sweeping judgements, I find watching your videos actually soothing and stimulaying like a quiet and serious conversation with an intelligent and knowledgeable interlocutor.
Again thank you for your work :-)
He is a good QB, and he is going to become a damn good QB.
Hes a trash qb, who could become good
12 games, 12 interceptions and 18 fumbles, open your eyes
@@TMeek94 3 of those interceptions came against the greatest coach of all time on the road. Also his first 5 games (6 TDs 7 Int)... his last 7 games (18 TDs 5 ints). Its very clear there was a huge improvement in Jones's second half the of the season, if you can't see that idk what to tell you.
@@Goats0826 whyd you leave out the fumbles?
And you cant make an excuse for him throwing 3 picks against a good team then leave out the fact all his good stats came against some of the worst teams in the league
Typical giants fan
I think his potential is high, but he needs to prove that by going and at least attempting to fix the issues in the film room and at practice
@@givem_t-bird6984 you can say that about literally every quarterback ever
Rly liked you on Strong Opinion Sports! That was an awesome interview
You know who he is still better than Dwayne Haskins "the smirking man"
You're going to eat your own Shit.
They both have their own unique upsides. Haskins is lucky to be playing for Ron Rivera. His defense will take a lot of weight off his shoulders during his growth process.
4DhumanInstrumentality true
Haskins strengths are the things that you really can't teach like pocket presence and throwing with anticipation. His weaknesses are teachable like his mechanics, especially in his footwork.
Haskins pocket presence on display. What Jones struggles with.
mobile.twitter.com/skinstoday/status/1285375885441458179
magmax76 Haskins definitely has skills that I didn’t really notice until now
Finally, my favorite channel has done it again!
Danny Dimes is already my lord and savior
One thing i know, you cant teach toughness. He is one tough SOB and I BELIEVE in him soo much.. he has all the fundamentals and if he grows just a little bit in the next few seasons i know he’s gonna be a winner, coming from a tom brady fan who hates the giants to its core
Imagine DJ was throwing to Godwin and Evans in his 4th year instead of throwing to Latimer and Slayton on a rookie learning curve. The Jameis comparison is absurd
The best part of this account is that he doesnt just look at stats. He is looking for good throws just like how he is watching for bad throws. Doesnt matter who the reciever is if the qb isnt feeling the pressure and getting strip sacked by Jamal Adam's. I think it's a great comparison because of their riskiness but high potential. If it's a good throw, brett doesnt care if it's a catch or a drop. That's talent
the giants have good wrs, they're not bad. its mostly just that he needs more time to throw.
Not many rookie QBs have pocket presence. Takes time to get a feel for the NFL pocket to become a legend at it like Brady, Wilson, Rodgers or even Eli Manning.
This was an amazing breakdown! I totally agree that Daniel Jones is a difficult QB to evaluate. His talent is undeniable - with his elite accuracy, and great arm strength. But it's also obvious that he has a lot of trouble having awareness in the pocket, and because of that has had issues with fumbling. I saw this Giants Outlook here, prosportsoutlook.com/outlooks/?league=nfl&team=2474, and it's clear that they don't have a roster ready to compete for the playoffs this year. Can't wait to see Jones play this season!
Elite accuracy? It's fine, but not anything far removed from league average (in either direction)
Shane Wilson he has elite accuracy until the ball is past 20 yards
Keith Brock it’s a joke chiiil I’m a giants fan I love Danny dimes
Daniel Jones seems like a good QB to me when I'm judging him as a rookie... at least I really like him in fantasy as a QB2 or a good dynasty QB
Im more sold on him then darnold bro
Probably a good person to compare him to in that neither of them have any protection.
@@AG-SYS exactly..but jones produced more td passes being more or less the same situation a bad oline, gd running backs and mid tier receivers. So was it darnold missing a few games deciding the difference in production? Or is jones more dialed in?
I like darnold, more than Daniel and I'm a Texans fan...
@@sauljimmytakavic4286 I didnt say i don't like darnold I love the kid but hes gotta show more to get the nod over jones
@@jetlife4585 I meant I steal believe darnold has a chance too... But his coach?? Idk... Just like mines...a disaster of a coach and GM...
Reminds me of when you made that Trubisky video last year except with a slightly more accurate deep ball
Only problem with your analysis is Daniel Jones is a statistical league leader in accurate deep passes of 60 yds +. Thx for the video.
Brett the chef at the end that was a nice surprise
This hasn’t aged well 😂😂😂
You should do a quick follow up on this video after the season. Especially since it’s not revealed how well he can run
in hindsight, no he is not
How does this channel not have more subs
Jones is gonna be great. The offensive line for him last year was absolutely ATROCIOUS! Solder is an absolute joke who gave Jones no time whatsoever most of the time. His weapons were CONSTANTLY injured last year, too.
Jones is going to be amazing. These're plenty of evidence there to suggest that.
I will say that Jones came in to learn under an established starter. Some QB's out of college need that. Some have the skills to start right away. He had that, just not an established or decent coaching staff. I think he was thrown in too soon with the way Manning was handled. Manning had Kurt Warner for about the same time now that I think of it. Needless to say, it's over now. We'll see through the next two seasons what he's made of by way of adjustments and growth.
As a Giants fan. It's worth it.
Every single college QB should have that, the problem is that it's unfortunate that it doesn't happen often.
He had a great year for a rookie everyone hated and thought was trash. Played well and very mature throughout all of it. They might have gotten something special in NY when the team gets more playmakers or better coaching watch out.
100% definitively, decisively, maybe.
Thanks Brett.
I aim to please
Die hard NY Giants fan and you nailed it. Great video.
Damn,
Kollman.
Back at it again with some fresh content!
DJ is a stud. He will turn out better then alot of people anticipated.
Yes, this Vid is 4 months old and should be updated . By the way going into next year he is the Best QB in the division and the Giants will be hands down dominating
Lol “dominating” yeah only dominating the NFC least
Great video. Speaking of highest time to sack in the league, will you please do a video on my dude Drew Locks first year in the league?
This is the latest I’ve been to a new Brett video in years
So after watching your analysis of D.Jones I do agree with your assessment. I didn't realize how much he struggled against zone defenses. That is something if he does improve on , along with better pocket awareness. He can be a very good QB in this league. The jury is definitely still out on him. I will be pulling for him since im a Giants fan.
4:00 seeing Vita Vea in a 2 point stance is....... something
Damn Coleman back at it again with the film review
Your analysis is so thorough. Good job man.
excellent video! put all my frustrations as a giants fan into a video 😭
You should make a video on Tyrod Taylor, I'd love to hear what you have to say about him and his situation with Justin Herbert.
You said it correctly Brett Kollmann...
"Smart Throws" & "Oblivious in the pocket"
Would love if you do film on Za’Darius & Preston Smith on their impact on my packers defense and why they work so perfectly together💯💯💯
Lowkey I wanna see Brett do a cooking video, Hellofresh and Misen? Man sounds like he knows how to make a dope meal
Giants Fan here, excellent video brother.
As a Cowboys fan I think it's interesting this video should show up now. Sunday will be a great game.
It’s finally here after what felt like 19 years of teasing on Twitter it has arrived😃
Can you do a video about Clowney and what he's really worth?
*watching this seeing the pass schemes Pat Schurmur used to help Daniel Jones to see how better weapons in Denver could succeed* WE NEED THE DREW LOCK VIDEO
Great video Brett worth the wait
Gosh there’s so many little details to football that I never knew about. It’s crazy how a simple game can become so complex to completely understand.