As an older goalie, I can appreciate this talk & points you’ve nailed. I’ve never been coached as a goalie & although I do like the technical side, I understand that when the time comes.. Gotta get to the nitty gritty & grind @ game time! 👍
We are surrounded by “Blame Gamers” these days, not just in sports, but in everyday life. Accountability is key. “Understand how to deliver those skills”, great point. That’s what we love about your coaching style. You don’t just run drills over and over. You explain the correct positioning and consequences of bad positioning in a drill so that even a laymen such as myself understands! 😆
Your content is VERY helpful as well. Question for you? why are there minimal choices on lie angle for goalie sticks, or do i need to look into a shorter paddle which would in turn alter the wrist, hand position and thus the lie angle.
@@joedauginas84 I’m not sure why they went away from lie angle but I used a 13 and they had 14 and 15 as well back in the day.. you CAN get what every lie you want if you go custom but huge $$$
I just had this conversation with our director unlike Steve I do not have the gift of gab, so I sent him this video. I have seen way too many goalies on the girls side who have hundreds of hours at skills unable to make routine saves at game time. It's still a big belief that they don't need to practice because that is what skills are for or parents only want them coached by professionals in fear of creating bad habits. My daughter and I watch your videos every week and your talks about try outs and effort have helped her through all her sports and even school work. Thanks for the videos
Bronco talk was spot on… my goalie coaching was watch Don Edwards. So lucky to live in Buffalo and study his play every game on Tv. I read the play as the other team is starting to come out of their zone. Staying fully engulfed in the game is key.. IMHO . Again great video Keeks! Cheers! 🥃🍺
I'm a beer league keeper. One thing I learned from your videos is to cut the passes "Dans le demi cercle" (the crease in French...and the name of my TH-cam). And the pokecheck... as soon as a player approaches my half circle to outsmart me and lowers his head...pokecheck😉
Love your points, Coach! When I'm helping a Goalie and running them through a drill, we run the drill once and then I ask them to describe the play, what is happening and why are we doing what we're doing. I do my best to try and keep their minds focused on everything being related back to a game. I try and get them to use their imagination and have invisible people on the ice as we're going through the drill. I have found that the younger goalies don't have that active mindset like the older ones do. Too many video games and less need to have imaginary friends, I suppose.
Totally agree with your assessments of young goalies of the last decade, they all have the basics down, but once you get one past them there confidence level drops. I am a beer league goalie and my moto is it's not over until the puck crosses the line, often it's not pretty and frankly I don't care!. The other thing I see is guys don't wonder out to the crease to play the puck, do I make mistakes? yup but 9 times out of 10 I make a good play.
He "likes a clean shaft, the knob not too big". You can see him hesitate for a split second when he says it too, lol. That is getting clipped for sure.
To build on the what is missing from the modern game idea, I know the topic of being another cookie cutter, technical, blocking mindset, goalie vs reactive mindset is not new, but I still think there is a lot to gain by digging deeper into if that is one of the keys to make a given student better average. Case in point, I have been playing beer league all this time coaching my kid coming up and I have been retraining myself to catch pucks out in front of my body and eyes. It works great. Recently I played in a 4 vs 4 tournament that had what I would consider, elite shooters (for old guys like me) and the old goalies in this tournament were making as nice and as difficult, glove saves as you will see in a rec. game. And they were doing it the old way, with the glove at your side and probably not in vision. I made a few that were the best in the while and they were made in "lizard brain mode" with my glove dipping to my side as the shooter closed the distance and shot a heater to 16" off the ice inside the post. Too close to react much I would think but somehow I snagged it. If I was in "glove in front in my vision, see it into the pocket mode" I was going to be a dead duck on that one. Some goalies like Fluery seem to have the ability to switch into that mode, and if nothing else it's exciting. Now to balance the argument, I am teaching my goalies a lot of glove projection on in close like your recent vidoes teach, and that works amazing too. So I'm not screaming at the cloud either, but what do you think of this rambling?
Glove position in your stance and palm square as the puck approaches varies to mimic the aerial angle. 😎 so there is no set static stance position that is always the same.
I greatly appreciate your advice on the coaching side of things, and want to thank you for that! As a (u16 AAA) goalie coach, what do you think are the best tools to actually help your goalies develope those game skills? Analyzing their own game films together, having them do homework studying other goalies, game situation based drills, open/game like drills? Something else?
One of the hardest things I had to learn as a parent was to step back and let my kid fail. Understand the definition of success is failing until you don’t fail anymore. Love the talking points about coaches. Are you going to do a deeper dive into mental conditioning and how to study games? I play in several different leagues right now, and the most challenging one is our D league for beginners. Why? Because plays do not develop rationally and reading plays becomes impossible. Almost every goal is scored within 10 feet of the goal, and typically from a mad scramble in front of the net with 10 sticks all whacking away at once. I say that to illustrate that intimately understanding the “whys” at the NHL level may not directly correlate to the game situations that some people face. Watching your own game footage will get you much further. But as your skills improve and so do the players around you, having that higher level understanding will better prepare you for the future.
Yes. Watching NHL clips will help you be a detective on what is predictable with great players. As you mention, trying to predict lower level players is often the biggest challenge. I call those chaos training because half the time, even those players don’t know what they are doing. Studying personal video of your own games is an even better way to learn to critically analyze scoring chances. There will be some overlap but generally speaking zeroing in on your “typical goal against”will be a great way to fix issues, hopefully when you see the same situation again you will have an auto recall on the correction. (Almost always tactical, not technical mistakes)
Thanks Irv. Mike has sponsored me for over 20 years. This is a display pad for marketing purposes and is made exactly like a real pad just scaled up. It is about 5.5’ tall.
This is an amazing teaching video on the things that are lacking today. The stick work is well done, I used to spend hours on my paddle and stick shoulders; obsessed over this. Having the puck hit your pads does not help to develop the deflecting pucks into the corners or keeping pucks from coming across the blue paint, that's a butterfly thing. I believe Fluery is still one of the best at using his stick. He does use a poke check a la Johnny Bower now and then, great to watch. Yes! The negative stuff: take it, learn from it, be motivated and show them you can do better.
Tons of great stuff here! 60 sticks a year Keeks? You must have been harder on twigs than that Gorilla Trav4. I think the other added factor about your point on stick shyness was these guys don't understand the value of the stick as a deterrent. If I cut a couple passes early in the game, I'm in their head and they won't attempt those passes and will switch to their plan B. If I nail a poke check early, they will think twice before doing some dipsy doodle stuff on the doorstep. As goalies we don't often get to initiate the interaction and are always reacting to the oppositions choices of where the game goes. That big, expensive stick you have in your hand is not just for looks, it gives you a lot more reach so you can try dictate the interaction.
I tell the kids at camp 6 dozen sticks a year at $80 each…..how much did I spend on stick that year? They all start their brains trying to do the math…. With various answers. Correct answer? Zero….. NHL goalies don’t pay for sticks.
You mentioned RVH as a technique that has really benefited goalies. I agree but I wonder about it being overused or maybe used incorrectly, when I see these snipes over the shoulder or off the side of the mask. Do you have an RVH video in the pipeline to talk about the current uses?
I created #RVfail and have been pointing out its incorrect deployment for 5 years. Some massively egregious examples. It has benefitted goalies in very rare situations. And I have covered the RVH and it’s proper technique and use in RVH 101 and RVH 201. You can find those links in the complete index in each videos description.
Great video as always. I like the black screen transition between scenes. The look at the camera after "I like a clean knob" is comedy gold. Thanks for all the tips and knowledge Steve. The "studying" of the game is a great suggestion.
@@FutureProGoaltending Almost there. We still have masks but everything else is normal. However there is a big wave right now so lots of people dealing with it but at least symptoms are mild. I have a 3 on 3 on Friday morning. Will put your dynamic warmup to use! Thanks again.
i tend to look at it as "the D should have been all over this guy and he never should have gotten to me in the first place, but i dropped the ball and didnt do my part to pick up their slack either"
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As an older goalie, I can appreciate this talk & points you’ve nailed. I’ve never been coached as a goalie & although I do like the technical side, I understand that when the time comes.. Gotta get to the nitty gritty & grind @ game time! 👍
I have seen some very very average technical goalies win championships, because they just know how to play the game
We are surrounded by “Blame Gamers” these days, not just in sports, but in everyday life. Accountability is key.
“Understand how to deliver those skills”, great point. That’s what we love about your coaching style. You don’t just run drills over and over. You explain the correct positioning and consequences of bad positioning in a drill so that even a laymen such as myself understands! 😆
Lay-woman
Best addition to this goalie's arsenal has been TH-cam NHL condensed games.
You can learn so much by studying and then internalizing what happens
Your content is VERY helpful as well. Question for you? why are there minimal choices on lie angle for goalie sticks, or do i need to look into a shorter paddle which would in turn alter the wrist, hand position and thus the lie angle.
@@joedauginas84 I’m not sure why they went away from lie angle but I used a 13 and they had 14 and 15 as well back in the day.. you CAN get what every lie you want if you go custom but huge $$$
I just had this conversation with our director unlike Steve I do not have the gift of gab, so I sent him this video. I have seen way too many goalies on the girls side who have hundreds of hours at skills unable to make routine saves at game time. It's still a big belief that they don't need to practice because that is what skills are for or parents only want them coached by professionals in fear of creating bad habits. My daughter and I watch your videos every week and your talks about try outs and effort have helped her through all her sports and even school work.
Thanks for the videos
Thanks Michael
Bronco talk was spot on… my goalie coaching was watch Don Edwards. So lucky to live in Buffalo and study his play every game on Tv. I read the play as the other team is starting to come out of their zone. Staying fully engulfed in the game is key.. IMHO . Again great video Keeks! Cheers! 🥃🍺
Thanks Eli
I'm a beer league keeper. One thing I learned from your videos is to cut the passes "Dans le demi cercle" (the crease in French...and the name of my TH-cam). And the pokecheck... as soon as a player approaches my half circle to outsmart me and lowers his head...pokecheck😉
Baton sur la glacé 😎
Love your points, Coach! When I'm helping a Goalie and running them through a drill, we run the drill once and then I ask them to describe the play, what is happening and why are we doing what we're doing. I do my best to try and keep their minds focused on everything being related back to a game. I try and get them to use their imagination and have invisible people on the ice as we're going through the drill. I have found that the younger goalies don't have that active mindset like the older ones do. Too many video games and less need to have imaginary friends, I suppose.
That is an example of great goalie coach. Great approach Ryan!
Great nuggets of advice while in the vehicle. So many knowledge bombs were dropped that the area is now cratered like the moon
Thanks Irfan
Totally agree with your assessments of young goalies of the last decade, they all have the basics down, but once you get one past them there confidence level drops. I am a beer league goalie and my moto is it's not over until the puck crosses the line, often it's not pretty and frankly I don't care!. The other thing I see is guys don't wonder out to the crease to play the puck, do I make mistakes? yup but 9 times out of 10 I make a good play.
If you could have seen me play it definitely wasn’t pretty……
Hahahahaha.....he said, "Clean Shaft."
Underrated….😎
He "likes a clean shaft, the knob not too big". You can see him hesitate for a split second when he says it too, lol.
That is getting clipped for sure.
@@Kvothe3 😎
@@Kvothe3 my mind is never in the gutter.
To build on the what is missing from the modern game idea, I know the topic of being another cookie cutter, technical, blocking mindset, goalie vs reactive mindset is not new, but I still think there is a lot to gain by digging deeper into if that is one of the keys to make a given student better average. Case in point, I have been playing beer league all this time coaching my kid coming up and I have been retraining myself to catch pucks out in front of my body and eyes. It works great. Recently I played in a 4 vs 4 tournament that had what I would consider, elite shooters (for old guys like me) and the old goalies in this tournament were making as nice and as difficult, glove saves as you will see in a rec. game. And they were doing it the old way, with the glove at your side and probably not in vision. I made a few that were the best in the while and they were made in "lizard brain mode" with my glove dipping to my side as the shooter closed the distance and shot a heater to 16" off the ice inside the post. Too close to react much I would think but somehow I snagged it. If I was in "glove in front in my vision, see it into the pocket mode" I was going to be a dead duck on that one. Some goalies like Fluery seem to have the ability to switch into that mode, and if nothing else it's exciting.
Now to balance the argument, I am teaching my goalies a lot of glove projection on in close like your recent vidoes teach, and that works amazing too. So I'm not screaming at the cloud either, but what do you think of this rambling?
Glove position in your stance and palm square as the puck approaches varies to mimic the aerial angle. 😎 so there is no set static stance position that is always the same.
@@FutureProGoaltending ok, great point, but if you don't call this "glove tracking" you are not going to get as many IG hearts...
I greatly appreciate your advice on the coaching side of things, and want to thank you for that! As a (u16 AAA) goalie coach, what do you think are the best tools to actually help your goalies develope those game skills? Analyzing their own game films together, having them do homework studying other goalies, game situation based drills, open/game like drills? Something else?
Exactly everything you mentioned. Awesome stuff…
@@FutureProGoaltending Right on. Always good to get confirmation someone bit wiser, that you're on the right track!
Great as always! Thanks Coach!
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One of the hardest things I had to learn as a parent was to step back and let my kid fail. Understand the definition of success is failing until you don’t fail anymore. Love the talking points about coaches. Are you going to do a deeper dive into mental conditioning and how to study games? I play in several different leagues right now, and the most challenging one is our D league for beginners. Why? Because plays do not develop rationally and reading plays becomes impossible. Almost every goal is scored within 10 feet of the goal, and typically from a mad scramble in front of the net with 10 sticks all whacking away at once. I say that to illustrate that intimately understanding the “whys” at the NHL level may not directly correlate to the game situations that some people face. Watching your own game footage will get you much further. But as your skills improve and so do the players around you, having that higher level understanding will better prepare you for the future.
Yes. Watching NHL clips will help you be a detective on what is predictable with great players. As you mention, trying to predict lower level players is often the biggest challenge. I call those chaos training because half the time, even those players don’t know what they are doing. Studying personal video of your own games is an even better way to learn to critically analyze scoring chances. There will be some overlap but generally speaking zeroing in on your “typical goal against”will be a great way to fix issues, hopefully when you see the same situation again you will have an auto recall on the correction. (Almost always tactical, not technical mistakes)
Awesome! New videos. Can you please tell me about the story of the oversized Vaughn pad in your garage? Weight? Display model? Thanks.
Thanks Irv. Mike has sponsored me for over 20 years. This is a display pad for marketing purposes and is made exactly like a real pad just scaled up. It is about 5.5’ tall.
This is an amazing teaching video on the things that are lacking today. The stick work is well done, I used to spend hours on my paddle and stick shoulders; obsessed over this. Having the puck hit your pads does not help to develop the deflecting pucks into the corners or keeping pucks from coming across the blue paint, that's a butterfly thing. I believe Fluery is still one of the best at using his stick. He does use a poke check a la Johnny Bower now and then, great to watch.
Yes! The negative stuff: take it, learn from it, be motivated and show them you can do better.
Thanks Tio
Tons of great stuff here! 60 sticks a year Keeks? You must have been harder on twigs than that Gorilla Trav4. I think the other added factor about your point on stick shyness was these guys don't understand the value of the stick as a deterrent. If I cut a couple passes early in the game, I'm in their head and they won't attempt those passes and will switch to their plan B. If I nail a poke check early, they will think twice before doing some dipsy doodle stuff on the doorstep. As goalies we don't often get to initiate the interaction and are always reacting to the oppositions choices of where the game goes. That big, expensive stick you have in your hand is not just for looks, it gives you a lot more reach so you can try dictate the interaction.
100%
I tell the kids at camp 6 dozen sticks a year at $80 each…..how much did I spend on stick that year? They all start their brains trying to do the math…. With various answers.
Correct answer?
Zero….. NHL goalies don’t pay for sticks.
You mentioned RVH as a technique that has really benefited goalies. I agree but I wonder about it being overused or maybe used incorrectly, when I see these snipes over the shoulder or off the side of the mask.
Do you have an RVH video in the pipeline to talk about the current uses?
I created #RVfail and have been pointing out its incorrect deployment for 5 years. Some massively egregious examples. It has benefitted goalies in very rare situations. And I have covered the RVH and it’s proper technique and use in RVH 101 and RVH 201. You can find those links in the complete index in each videos description.
Great video as always. I like the black screen transition between scenes. The look at the camera after "I like a clean knob" is comedy gold. Thanks for all the tips and knowledge Steve. The "studying" of the game is a great suggestion.
Thanks Steve. Hope things are back to normal out your way..
@@FutureProGoaltending Almost there. We still have masks but everything else is normal. However there is a big wave right now so lots of people dealing with it but at least symptoms are mild. I have a 3 on 3 on Friday morning. Will put your dynamic warmup to use! Thanks again.
Very good content ,really enjoyed today's episode
Y’all a regular! Thanks N
i tend to look at it as "the D should have been all over this guy and he never should have gotten to me in the first place, but i dropped the ball and didnt do my part to pick up their slack either"
Definitely a group effort