Sorry, but I just saw it now. I also bought now a K1200S of 2007 with only 8000 kms but has the noise, only at the moment of the start... Congratulations and success for your company
Hello. First i had the 2 sec. noise after start. My dealer than put on a tensioner for K1300 at around 50000 km. and it worked ok. Now i have 80000 km. and have a lot of noise but only at warm engine. My qestion is. When i use your tensioner i must follow the instruction for the k1300 engine ? Thank you for the video. My name is Bjarte from Bergen. West of Norway
@@FryChicken Thank you fore answer. I had too change the worn out plastic rails at 90,000 km so i still use the BMW tensioner. Now i wonder if the 1300 tensioner pressure too hard on the chain ? Should i put on the manual one like i the video ? (i have bought it)
@@bjarteengen588 I have the fixed tensioner but I don’t like it. I’d prefer one that’s spring loaded. I will furnish the K1300S tensioner and install that in due time.
Hello CJ..i noticed a very low grinding-like noise, quite rough, when decelerating from about 4000rpm to 3000rpm along with some light vibration. If i install this chain tensioner on my bike (2010 K1300S), can i solve the problem?? Thank you!
One question unrelated to the topic of this video. And I apologize for that. How is it possible to get a cover for the passenger seat like on the motorcycle that is the subject of the video. I have a 2006 K 1200 S. Thanks in advance for your reply.
Hello to you folks at SCMW. I have a 2006 K1200r. 27500 km. Just did the 30,000 km service.I just mounted the "update" CCT from BMW. The hydraulic one that was supposed to solve the annoying 2 second rattle at upstart. The longest 2 seconds I've ever experienced. ... The new CCT didn't help much. Rattles just like before for a second before the little cylinder in the CCT fills up with oil.. The motor runs a little rough at idle and causes a vibration transplant down into the clutch... (as I notice that the rattle goes away when I pull in the clutch lever) This is normal says the BMW shop. hmmm ... They said they could replace the clutch ... but it probably wouldn't fix the rattle they said. ...(have read on Kbikes.com that the clutch change has fixed the rattle sound also) Some managed to fix it and some didn't. There is a variety of several different problems that cause the problem(s) My question to SCMW is, Will this CCT make my bike run smoother at an idle than the CCT from BMW? What's the price of yours? May be worth a try anyway. Thanks !
danielhehir1 Hello my friend. Ok yes there are a few issues that you have. The rattle at startup will be solved 100% with our tensioner. It does create a more stable idle as well. That is because the cam timing is consistent with consistent chain tension. Now the rattle in the clutch. That is mostly caused by the springs in the clutch basket have compressed and lost their tension. There is a spring loaded gear on the back of the clutch basket with tends to lose spring tension. You may also want to check the tension on the oil pump drive chain just behind the clutch basket as well. That should be tight. Those are known to create noise if they are loose. And finally the clutch itself if it is worn or the basket has excessive wear from the clutch tabs then that makes a lot of rattle as well. So the tensioner will fix the rattle from the engines cam chain, but you may also need to look at those other items as well. Check out our website www.southerncaliforniamotowerks.com for purchase information. You can email me with any questions as well. Thanks for checking us out. cj@socalmotowerks.com
Thanks a lot for the quick response SCMW. That was really great! I am going to order a CCT right now !! I have a feeling that the clutch rattle will go away too by putting on your CCT. Because the little "blurp" is what initiates the clutch to make the rattle. The rattle is not there before the motor falls down from "choke" in rpm's when it has run for a few minutes. When warm the CCT functions fine on start up. You don't hear that "really nasty Rattle" of the cam chain. But the comes the clutch rattle. When the idle falls, that's when the clutch noise begins. The bike has so little km on it that I can't imagine any wear in the clutch already. It's been babied it's whole life. You know there are literally hundreds, maybe thousands of k1200's that have this problem. You guys should work for BMW. The worst part of it is, the guys in the BMW shop here (I live in Norway) they say that it's "normal ....or ... characteristic" for this bike. ..... right ... hmmm (...)
danielhehir1 Yea most shops definition of normal means all of them do it. Which really means they all have a problem and this is just the way they dance around it. BMW makes great machines but just like all other brands there is always something that has a problem.
Is this tensioner suitable for every day/street use?? I just bought an used 2006 K1200R and it has the original tensioner which makes the chain rattle a lot...
I thought one time I read that BMW discouraged installing a new chain tensioner on high mileage bikes. My bike has nearly 50k miles, is this safe to install? Oh, and nice video.
Matthew Tillman this is not a factory tensioner. This tensioner is a manually set tensioner. This is a remedy for all of their tensioner problems. Once you install this all the rattling will go away and you will be safe from a cam chain skip. (www.socalmotowerks.com)
Ola , eu recem adquiri uma k 1200 s e ela faZ um barulho ,na marcha lenta, quando aciona a embreagem ela para de fazer o barulho, o sr . Enviaria essa oeça oara o Brasil,? Qual valor ?
BMW suggests not to install it on bikes with a mileage above 12K. If so you need to change sprockets, chain and guides at the same time. Whats's your opinion about that? Mine has 60k, rattles and has still the original tensioner. Source: www.k-bikes.com/threads/2006-k1200s-cam-chain-tensioner-upgrade-over-12k.23652/
With 60k on it, it is likely to have a lot of slack in the chain as it has been running that way for awhile. I see an excessive amount of wear on the K bike with anything over 50k on it. So I would tend to agree with them on that. I have had people say they put it in with that many miles and it has worked just fine. I would recommend the replacement of the chain, sprockets, and guide rails for best results
Hello I have a bmw k1300r 2012 with vibrations between 3000 and 4000 rpm where the brand says to be normal without any problem, will your tensioner solve this problem without damaging the engine? greetings
I have another Problem... my Rpm and kph ist changed.. the kph meter makes rpms and the Rpm Meter goes with the speed... whats the Problem Now? The Batterie was 3 Months mit installed... After install i haved thus Problem...
Dieter Müller aftermarket spark plugs? Check those condition. This is a strange condition to have. However not related to the tensioner. I think you have some sort of electrical interference or poor isolation in the harness
Philippe Abalain I do ship internationally. Can you email me cj@socalmotowerks.com with your address so I can put a shipping quote together for you. Thanks
That, my boy, is what a super high compression engine with radical valve timing sounds like. You don't get 163 horsepower from 71 cubic engines and then have it idle like a sewing machine.
Sorry, but I just saw it now.
I also bought now a K1200S of 2007 with only 8000 kms but has the noise, only at the moment of the start...
Congratulations and success for your company
Nice job... thanks...🚀🚀🚀💥💥💥👏👏👏
Hello,
Thank you for your video.
With this new tensor, does the "traditional" noise disappear?
Thanks
Hello. First i had the 2 sec. noise after start. My dealer than put on a tensioner for K1300 at around 50000 km. and it worked ok. Now i have 80000 km. and have a lot of noise but only at warm engine. My qestion is. When i use your tensioner i must follow the instruction for the k1300 engine ? Thank you for the video. My name is Bjarte from Bergen. West of Norway
Your dealer installed the upgraded BMW tensioner. You probably have to replace the O-Rings for that
@@FryChicken Thank you fore answer. I had too change the worn out plastic rails at 90,000 km so i still use the BMW tensioner. Now i wonder if the 1300 tensioner pressure too hard on the chain ? Should i put on the manual one like i the video ? (i have bought it)
@@bjarteengen588 I have the fixed tensioner but I don’t like it. I’d prefer one that’s spring loaded. I will furnish the K1300S tensioner and install that in due time.
Hello CJ..i noticed a very low grinding-like noise, quite rough, when decelerating from about 4000rpm to 3000rpm along with some light vibration. If i install this chain tensioner on my bike (2010 K1300S), can i solve the problem?? Thank you!
Nice video. Where are you guys located? I live in Los Angeles
We are located in Escondido Ca
One question unrelated to the topic of this video. And I apologize for that. How is it possible to get a cover for the passenger seat like on the motorcycle that is the subject of the video. I have a 2006 K 1200 S. Thanks in advance for your reply.
I always hate how I need to modify tools to “make” them work. So now I need to purchase a tool box for all modified tools.
Hello to you folks at SCMW. I have a 2006 K1200r. 27500 km. Just did the 30,000 km service.I just mounted the "update" CCT from BMW. The hydraulic one that was supposed to solve the annoying 2 second rattle at upstart. The longest 2 seconds I've ever experienced. ... The new CCT didn't help much. Rattles just like before for a second before the little cylinder in the CCT fills up with oil.. The motor runs a little rough at idle and causes a vibration transplant down into the clutch... (as I notice that the rattle goes away when I pull in the clutch lever) This is normal says the BMW shop. hmmm ... They said they could replace the clutch ... but it probably wouldn't fix the rattle they said. ...(have read on Kbikes.com that the clutch change has fixed the rattle sound also) Some managed to fix it and some didn't. There is a variety of several different problems that cause the problem(s) My question to SCMW is, Will this CCT make my bike run smoother at an idle than the CCT from BMW? What's the price of yours? May be worth a try anyway.
Thanks !
danielhehir1 Hello my friend. Ok yes there are a few issues that you have. The rattle at startup will be solved 100% with our tensioner. It does create a more stable idle as well. That is because the cam timing is consistent with consistent chain tension.
Now the rattle in the clutch. That is mostly caused by the springs in the clutch basket have compressed and lost their tension. There is a spring loaded gear on the back of the clutch basket with tends to lose spring tension. You may also want to check the tension on the oil pump drive chain just behind the clutch basket as well. That should be tight. Those are known to create noise if they are loose. And finally the clutch itself if it is worn or the basket has excessive wear from the clutch tabs then that makes a lot of rattle as well. So the tensioner will fix the rattle from the engines cam chain, but you may also need to look at those other items as well. Check out our website www.southerncaliforniamotowerks.com for purchase information. You can email me with any questions as well. Thanks for checking us out.
cj@socalmotowerks.com
Thanks a lot for the quick response SCMW. That was really great! I am going to order a CCT right now !! I have a feeling that the clutch rattle will go away too by putting on your CCT. Because the little "blurp" is what initiates the clutch to make the rattle. The rattle is not there before the motor falls down from "choke" in rpm's when it has run for a few minutes. When warm the CCT functions fine on start up. You don't hear that "really nasty Rattle" of the cam chain. But the comes the clutch rattle. When the idle falls, that's when the clutch noise begins. The bike has so little km on it that I can't imagine any wear in the clutch already. It's been babied it's whole life. You know there are literally hundreds, maybe thousands of k1200's that have this problem. You guys should work for BMW. The worst part of it is, the guys in the BMW shop here (I live in Norway) they say that it's "normal ....or ... characteristic" for this bike. ..... right ... hmmm (...)
danielhehir1 Yea most shops definition of normal means all of them do it. Which really means they all have a problem and this is just the way they dance around it. BMW makes great machines but just like all other brands there is always something that has a problem.
Non bisognerebbe bloccare gli alberi a camme prima di togliere il tendicatena? Se si spostano mentre lo togli ? Quando la accendi rompi il motore !!!!
After it has been installed, how often does it need to be adjusted?
Is this tensioner suitable for every day/street use?? I just bought an used 2006 K1200R and it has the original tensioner which makes the chain rattle a lot...
Martin Taha yes it is for everyday street use. Congrats on the new purchase by the way.
Hi there, just picked a 07 K1200S with 16k mint. If I install your MCCT, do I still need the jump guard? thanks for your help
Double x I think it would still be wise to put the jump Guard in as it covers the small sprocket off the crankshaft.
@@socalmotowerks8526 I was afraid you where gonna say that, lol
Where a can buy that plunser
I thought one time I read that BMW discouraged installing a new chain tensioner on high mileage bikes. My bike has nearly 50k miles, is this safe to install?
Oh, and nice video.
Matthew Tillman this is not a factory tensioner. This tensioner is a manually set tensioner. This is a remedy for all of their tensioner problems. Once you install this all the rattling will go away and you will be safe from a cam chain skip. (www.socalmotowerks.com)
nice..
Ola , eu recem adquiri uma k 1200 s e ela faZ um barulho ,na marcha lenta, quando aciona a embreagem ela para de fazer o barulho, o sr . Enviaria essa oeça oara o Brasil,? Qual valor ?
BMW suggests not to install it on bikes with a mileage above 12K. If so you need to change sprockets, chain and guides at the same time. Whats's your opinion about that? Mine has 60k, rattles and has still the original tensioner.
Source: www.k-bikes.com/threads/2006-k1200s-cam-chain-tensioner-upgrade-over-12k.23652/
With 60k on it, it is likely to have a lot of slack in the chain as it has been running that way for awhile. I see an excessive amount of wear on the K bike with anything over 50k on it. So I would tend to agree with them on that. I have had people say they put it in with that many miles and it has worked just fine. I would recommend the replacement of the chain, sprockets, and guide rails for best results
Hello I have a bmw k1300r 2012 with vibrations between 3000 and 4000 rpm where the brand says to be normal without any problem, will your tensioner solve this problem without damaging the engine? greetings
Hi..i have the same issue!..did you solve the problem? Some people really said that's normal, but i don't think so...
動画ありがとうございます。k1200sに乗っております。
日本で購入したいのですが、どのように手続きすれば、良いでしょうか?よろしくおねがいします!
los kilogramos que aplica el tensor lo sabes ??
o es por el sonido solamente
Why is the stock tensioner a problem?
I have another Problem... my Rpm and kph ist changed.. the kph meter makes rpms and the Rpm Meter goes with the speed... whats the Problem Now? The Batterie was 3 Months mit installed... After install i haved thus Problem...
Dieter Müller aftermarket spark plugs? Check those condition. This is a strange condition to have. However not related to the tensioner. I think you have some sort of electrical interference or poor isolation in the harness
Does the engine need to be at TDC when you remove the old tensioner on the 1200? Thank you!
No it does not.
@@socalmotowerks8526 Thanks!
Thank you.
Thank you for this invention. Is it possible to buy France?
Philippe Abalain I do ship internationally. Can you email me cj@socalmotowerks.com with your address so I can put a shipping quote together for you. Thanks
bonjour philippe. si j'ai bien compris cette piece servirait à eviter le bruit de chaine qu'elle fait quand on la demarre???
eddy a C'est correct, il éliminera le hochet au démarrage et sauvera la chaîne du moteur de saut d'une dent sur le pignon
ok et c'est une piece que vous vendez socal motowerks et disponible en france ??
eddy a Oui, si vous l'achetez sur le site www.southerncaliforniamotowerks.com, il vous enverra en france
il sonaglio è causato dalle molle della frizione !!!!
If the tensioner I got from you is loose more than it should, would the bike hesitate when cranking the throttle?
why the rough idle sounds like a miss
That, my boy, is what a super high compression engine with radical valve timing sounds like. You don't get 163 horsepower from 71 cubic engines and then have it idle like a sewing machine.
Is this also used on the 2007 K1200GT ?
Yep it is still available for the 2007 k1200gt