An excellent layout with realistic ops sessions. Interesting how there’s a similarity of railroad terminology. I grew up and also worked on the Canadian National ..... long before the days of Hunter Harrison.... I have experienced situations similar to your Monument Meltdown .. post more videos please.
Please post more videos to keep us "up to date"? This is a wonderful "N"scale layout and very inspirational for those of us who are not quite up to "Ops sessions" yet? I assume that you can just run trains over the layout, just for the sheer enjoyment of watching them travel through the scenery.. But To be able to operate like a "real" railroad is great? I often watch the videos ( and then run my "N" scale layout for a while)... our layout was built to run trains at shows or displays, so that something was always moving?.. I wish after watching the videos, that our layout had been better designed for the realistic operations like yours? Thank you for the very entertaining videos...
Hmm so some dispatchers and a yard master came up with a dispatching scheme and they like it? What a surprise haha. In all seriousness though dispatching has gotta be hard Idk how many times as a conductor I was told, "Don't worry too much the dispatchers won't let anything bad happen as long as you stay in your limits." so man being the guy responsible for that must be heavy.
to echo everyone else already.. always enjoyable. I personally really like the O&NE logging/wood part of your layout the best. Thank you for sharing yet another very well done video. Tom
Thank you so very much for ALL those train "meets" ! I know you cut the trains as they are passing for time,but i could watch this all day! 🤣 🤔 weird, I know! Lol! Just great stuff! Thank you again!
This probably the most realistic N scale layout ever. I began modelling in the mid 1970’s and quickly became disappointed in the awful performance of the current N scale equipment both European and American. Kudos to your work. My son lobes in Ft Worth and I would love to come see your layout next i me I am in the area. Thanks for these great videos.
Now if only extraboard thru-freight in the northwest could be this efficient... But hey, I like our track warrant system and mostly enjoy CTC. Awesome video as always! -Matt
Glad to see another fine production. I am sure it is tedious and time consuming. For myself, and I am sure, many others would like to Thank you and your team for your work.
Thanks for the question. The era I'm modeling (1969) was a time when railroads were starting to "run-through" equipment from one to another where trains were originating on one railroad and terminating on another to reduce delays at the interchange point.
Hello, will you give me a permission for me to make some of those yards (Monument, Dayville, Scanlon, 7th Ave. Industrial, Industrial parks, etc) from your layout on a model railroading game? Not so detailed but I would like to made it on a game called Rolling Line. I really apreciate it if you give me a permission. Thank you :)
I really like this video as I have a scenario that I would want to play out when it comes to this situation: GN train QRWG #442 (With Rio Grande, CB&Q and Western Pacific power) is running from Salt lake but has to terminate his train in Monument yard due to an Accident in Dayville which has caused traffic to get shifted to Monument. The train pulls in with 21 cars plus caboose. The train will be dismantled and handed out to the various industries along the line and there is an outbound train the power needs to continue the power on to Seattle. Some notable cars in this train include a flat bed carrying two trucks and two SP&S boxcars colored in green with yellow lettering that are loaded with Plywood. The train itself will be about 26 cars long with 6 cars from Big Monument Industrial park, 6 cars from the ON&E, 6 cars from both north and south 7th Avenue industrial area, the 3 hot cars I mentioned before and the rest of the train consists of GN related cargo bound for Seattle. Here's so Challenges that will be consisting of this operation: Get train QRWG now renumbered to #256 out of monument yard at 15:00 hours. (Do not delay) Big Monument Industrial park wants to add 2 50 foot Pacific Fruit Express Reefers (Lettering in black) to the train since the out bound SP train wouldn't be running through today so bring the cars to them. Malheur feeds would call up midway asking for a delivery of 2 NP 40 foot boxcars of Barley to them as part of a hot delivery. Keeping the three hot cars together along with the rest of the train to get them out. All trains bound for California would be showing up earlier than normal (Except for the SP trains) If this isn't much of a challenge then I don't know what is, seems plausible right. I hope you have the good rest of your day Dean.
wow, interesting - the problem with that scenario is that while railroads typically have detour agreements set up with each other, I've never heard of one of those agreements extending to yard operations (not to mention that there's zero chance the NP would drop everything they normally do in their yard to prioritize GN work). Typically yard derailments happen at the turnouts (just like our models!) which block access to one end of the yard. This causes all classification activities and train arrivals and departures to be done through the non-derailment end. I lived this scenario many times on the prototype and it is intense - now that could make for an interesting video!
I could imagine that this how the day would go down at the beginning as they encounter problems from the start: Dispatcher this is QWRG #442, we're just outside of Humboldt Junction our GN unit is completely dead and it won't start up, we don't have enough power to get to Snowline summit front or back and is there a spare unit you can lend to us so we can finish the journey there? Yes we got a Western Pacific GP9 that you can use in your consist along side the normal helper crew. I got word that Dayville yard got into a switching action derailing a few cars and damaging a couple and the clean up crew isn't going to be there for another couple of hours so we're leaving the yard empty until it's cleaned up and all traffic would be shifted to Monument yard until the yard is completely cleaned up and the damage has been inspected. Man dispatcher, George W. Thompson the Third wouldn't like the fact that he has to do double duty that he has both railroads to be handled. And I also got word that you will be terminating your train in Monument yard. What! Could be the start of the scenario that would explain a couple of things but this means Monument would have a possibility of melting down with the California trains arriving early at roughly 14:30 hours.
Another well done easy to understand eye candy video. Your layout is at the top of the list for you tube stuff period. I don't care what Brian says. Never using time tables before seems really easy to screw up. My layout is a single track mainline, too. Would you consider doing a session on developing your timetable? Thanks, Bonehead
Great video again as always, Dean. I do have some questions - what type of track and turnouts are you using, and how well do your trains operate on them? Thanks.
Hi Dean, the scheduled trains don't have much work on line other than station stops for passenger trains so their running times are very consistent. They OS their departure out of their initial station and then are not allowed to make up time. So they might report "#8 is out of GN Jct 20 minutes late" and then the dispatcher can relay that info to other trains getting track warrants (#8 is running 20 minutes late). No matter where #8 is on the layout he'll always be running at least 20 minutes late so other trains can adjust accordingly. If he falls significantly farther behind he could OS somewhere along the way, but I don't recall that ever happening.
@@oregonjointlinemodelrailro4125 First off, thanks for the response! I really like your TT/TW dispatching, as a frequent attendee of ops sessions, nothing is worse than getting assigned an extra train and getting stuck in a siding for hours on end. I love how your TT/TW scheme provides operators with the challenge of running via a timetable yet also prohibits the chance of trains sitting in sidings for hours on end. -Dean
@@deandeis5951 thanks. The ratio of scheduled trains (that run on timetable schedules) to extra trains (that run on track warrants) is probably 1 to 3. It really makes a difference in layout fluidity - back when we did straight track warrants we'd get a big backlog of guys waiting their turn to get track warrants. We still get that at times, but it's much better.
@OregonJointLineModelRailroad I have become infatuated with these videos! Your layout is amazing. I would love to learn more about the overall operations of the through trains as well as the scheduled moves. Is there anyway I could contact you through email and start a conversation about said topic? Thanks in advance!
thank you sir. We feel like it's a pretty good balance for now between being dictated to by the dispatcher and having to figure out what to do on your own. The system will no doubt continue to evolve.
I just love the in the background, "I can see it's gonna be another 12 hour day on the UP" nice throwback to earlier episodes.
Great video - thanks for sharing!
-Rick
Great demonstration of Track Warrants. Thanks for this.
Your railroad is a major reason why i chose to model the NP in Montana in the late 1960's, keep us the great work!
nice - before I started construction I actually drew up a track plan for NP's Mullan Pass line. It went from Garrison, MT to Logan, MT.
@@oregonjointlinemodelrailro4125 that sounds amazing! curious question, about how much of your loco fleet is custom painted?
@@seanklinetobe1935 a few but none that I've personally done.
These are great videos! You're 'making me happy now.'
An excellent layout with realistic ops sessions. Interesting how there’s a similarity of railroad terminology. I grew up and also worked on the Canadian National ..... long before the days of Hunter Harrison.... I have experienced situations similar to your Monument Meltdown .. post more videos please.
Please post more videos to keep us "up to date"?
This is a wonderful "N"scale layout and very inspirational for those of us who are not quite up to "Ops sessions" yet?
I assume that you can just run trains over the layout, just for the sheer enjoyment of watching them travel through the scenery.. But To be able to operate like a "real" railroad is great?
I often watch the videos ( and then run my "N" scale layout for a while)...
our layout was built to run trains at shows or displays, so that something was always moving?.. I wish after watching the videos, that our layout had been better designed for the realistic operations like yours?
Thank you for the very entertaining videos...
Hmm so some dispatchers and a yard master came up with a dispatching scheme and they like it? What a surprise haha. In all seriousness though dispatching has gotta be hard Idk how many times as a conductor I was told, "Don't worry too much the dispatchers won't let anything bad happen as long as you stay in your limits." so man being the guy responsible for that must be heavy.
to echo everyone else already.. always enjoyable. I personally really like the O&NE logging/wood part of your layout the best. Thank you for sharing yet another very well done video. Tom
Liked the way you explained everything. Operated like a real railroad. Liked the fact that you run cabooses, even if they are from foreign roads!
Hi Dean - Another excellent video covering operations on your beautiful layout! Well done and thank you for sharing with us. Mike
Your track authority form is missing boxes 7 to 13, and a few other things
The music gives me transport tycoon vibes! I love it!
The intro truly became an earworm!!!😁
Hey man, I would love to see what the operation is with the UP.
very nice operation. thank you for sharing
Thank you so very much for ALL those train "meets" ! I know you cut the trains as they are passing for time,but i could watch this all day! 🤣
🤔 weird, I know! Lol!
Just great stuff!
Thank you again!
This probably the most realistic N scale layout ever. I began modelling in the mid 1970’s and quickly became disappointed in the awful performance of the current N scale equipment both European and American. Kudos to your work.
My son lobes in Ft Worth and I would love to come see your layout next i me I am in the area.
Thanks for these great videos.
hey Keith, would be happy to host you for a layout visit. I sent you a friend request on FB (at least hopefully it was the right Keith Stamper!).
Now if only extraboard thru-freight in the northwest could be this efficient... But hey, I like our track warrant system and mostly enjoy CTC. Awesome video as always! -Matt
An entertaining and well-edited video...! That helper crew seemed just a bit too happy--perhaps they got an extra day's pay for your shove?
You know how it is Chris - there's about 1 in 25 railroaders that absolutely loves his job and hanging out with the guys.
Dean,
Once again a excellent cinematic experience!! The videos never get boring!
Keep up the great work!
thanks Wyatt!
Glad to see another fine production. I am sure it is tedious and time consuming. For myself, and I am sure, many others would like to Thank you and your team for your work.
Great video! One question. How does a NP freight train operate with a ATSF caboose? Don't the workers on a train need to be from the same company?
Thanks for the question. The era I'm modeling (1969) was a time when railroads were starting to "run-through" equipment from one to another where trains were originating on one railroad and terminating on another to reduce delays at the interchange point.
I love your vids. Looking at the schedule, I have to ask how train #7 travels 137 miles in one hour. I would like to see your track plan. Take care!
Haha, whoops!
Great lay-out but I miss signals.
How about a cab ride?
Great vid as always
One of the top operations channels on TH-cam!
Hello, will you give me a permission for me to make some of those yards (Monument, Dayville, Scanlon, 7th Ave. Industrial, Industrial parks, etc) from your layout on a model railroading game? Not so detailed but I would like to made it on a game called Rolling Line. I really apreciate it if you give me a permission. Thank you :)
Fun
thx!
Love the music
So any news? Hope to see more in the future!
I really like this video as I have a scenario that I would want to play out when it comes to this situation:
GN train QRWG #442 (With Rio Grande, CB&Q and Western Pacific power) is running from Salt lake but has to terminate his train in Monument yard due to an Accident in Dayville which has caused traffic to get shifted to Monument. The train pulls in with 21 cars plus caboose. The train will be dismantled and handed out to the various industries along the line and there is an outbound train the power needs to continue the power on to Seattle. Some notable cars in this train include a flat bed carrying two trucks and two SP&S boxcars colored in green with yellow lettering that are loaded with Plywood. The train itself will be about 26 cars long with 6 cars from Big Monument Industrial park, 6 cars from the ON&E, 6 cars from both north and south 7th Avenue industrial area, the 3 hot cars I mentioned before and the rest of the train consists of GN related cargo bound for Seattle.
Here's so Challenges that will be consisting of this operation:
Get train QRWG now renumbered to #256 out of monument yard at 15:00 hours. (Do not delay)
Big Monument Industrial park wants to add 2 50 foot Pacific Fruit Express Reefers (Lettering in black) to the train since the out bound SP train wouldn't be running through today so bring the cars to them.
Malheur feeds would call up midway asking for a delivery of 2 NP 40 foot boxcars of Barley to them as part of a hot delivery.
Keeping the three hot cars together along with the rest of the train to get them out.
All trains bound for California would be showing up earlier than normal (Except for the SP trains)
If this isn't much of a challenge then I don't know what is, seems plausible right. I hope you have the good rest of your day Dean.
wow, interesting - the problem with that scenario is that while railroads typically have detour agreements set up with each other, I've never heard of one of those agreements extending to yard operations (not to mention that there's zero chance the NP would drop everything they normally do in their yard to prioritize GN work). Typically yard derailments happen at the turnouts (just like our models!) which block access to one end of the yard. This causes all classification activities and train arrivals and departures to be done through the non-derailment end. I lived this scenario many times on the prototype and it is intense - now that could make for an interesting video!
I could imagine that this how the day would go down at the beginning as they encounter problems from the start:
Dispatcher this is QWRG #442, we're just outside of Humboldt Junction our GN unit is completely dead and it won't start up, we don't have enough power to get to Snowline summit front or back and is there a spare unit you can lend to us so we can finish the journey there?
Yes we got a Western Pacific GP9 that you can use in your consist along side the normal helper crew. I got word that Dayville yard got into a switching action derailing a few cars and damaging a couple and the clean up crew isn't going to be there for another couple of hours so we're leaving the yard empty until it's cleaned up and all traffic would be shifted to Monument yard until the yard is completely cleaned up and the damage has been inspected.
Man dispatcher, George W. Thompson the Third wouldn't like the fact that he has to do double duty that he has both railroads to be handled.
And I also got word that you will be terminating your train in Monument yard.
What!
Could be the start of the scenario that would explain a couple of things but this means Monument would have a possibility of melting down with the California trains arriving early at roughly 14:30 hours.
Looking forward to more videos!
This is amazing.
Another well done easy to understand eye candy video. Your layout is at the top of the list for you tube stuff period. I don't care what Brian says. Never using time tables before
seems really easy to screw up. My layout is a single track mainline, too. Would you consider doing a session on developing your timetable?
Thanks, Bonehead
Do you ever model a historic steam excursion train just to toss things up with the crews?
Not yet, but I did get a steam Loco for Christmas...
How do you get Rio Grand trains in Washington?
same way you had Rio Grande coal trains in California for export - runthrough over a partner railroad
people like there long trains
Another great video! I really enjoy your format... you always keep it interesting. You've "made me happy now!"
Great video again as always, Dean. I do have some questions - what type of track and turnouts are you using, and how well do your trains operate on them? Thanks.
Yup! Yeh made meh happi again. Great stuff as always🛤👍Hi from the U.K. 🇬🇧
Love watching your videos! How many on line customers do you switch with?
Great work guys, very smooth operations, wish i could join the fun.
Thanks for having us along. Great layout and video.
Love watching your video's!! Great looking layout!!
Great job! I like your Track Warrants. Brief but they do the job.
?So with your TT/TW Dispatching do trains still OS at Stations across the railroad?
Hi Dean, the scheduled trains don't have much work on line other than station stops for passenger trains so their running times are very consistent. They OS their departure out of their initial station and then are not allowed to make up time. So they might report "#8 is out of GN Jct 20 minutes late" and then the dispatcher can relay that info to other trains getting track warrants (#8 is running 20 minutes late). No matter where #8 is on the layout he'll always be running at least 20 minutes late so other trains can adjust accordingly. If he falls significantly farther behind he could OS somewhere along the way, but I don't recall that ever happening.
@@oregonjointlinemodelrailro4125 First off, thanks for the response! I really like your TT/TW dispatching, as a frequent attendee of ops sessions, nothing is worse than getting assigned an extra train and getting stuck in a siding for hours on end. I love how your TT/TW scheme provides operators with the challenge of running via a timetable yet also prohibits the chance of trains sitting in sidings for hours on end.
-Dean
@@deandeis5951 thanks. The ratio of scheduled trains (that run on timetable schedules) to extra trains (that run on track warrants) is probably 1 to 3. It really makes a difference in layout fluidity - back when we did straight track warrants we'd get a big backlog of guys waiting their turn to get track warrants. We still get that at times, but it's much better.
You should really do a video about running one of the locals
Great video.
@OregonJointLineModelRailroad I have become infatuated with these videos! Your layout is amazing. I would love to learn more about the overall operations of the through trains as well as the scheduled moves. Is there anyway I could contact you through email and start a conversation about said topic? Thanks in advance!
thanks Travis - I saw you asked to join the OJL facebook page but then you disappeared. That's the best way to contact me.
always a pleasure
I like the hybrid TW&TT you are running with. Cuts down on paperwork and for sure helps with an understanding of train movement.
thank you sir. We feel like it's a pretty good balance for now between being dictated to by the dispatcher and having to figure out what to do on your own. The system will no doubt continue to evolve.
Thanks for another superb video, awesome layout. Greetings from Denmark🌞👍🚂
thanks Dieter from Denmark!
Please keep making these videos. I love the bits of drama thrown in here and there!!
thanks DG - will hopefully have a new one out in the next few weeks
I have NEVER seen model railroad videos as good as these! Thank you.
thanks Andrew, it takes quite a while to make these so I really appreciate it!
That was great!
Awesome video!!!
FANTASTIC!!!