Had he not been injured during the 1999 and 2001 seasons, he would have had three consecutive sub-2.00 ERA seasons. The second best ERAs after him were 3.44 in '99, 3.70 in '00, and 3.05 in '01. There has never been a pitcher as dominant as he was form 1997 to 2003. Justin Verlander is having a Pedro-esque season this year but it's unlikely he'll have six more through 2024.
I would consider that Stu Miller's changeup was Pedro's equal, only because Mr. Martinez had grade A heat to set up his, and Miller's fastball probably topped out at 78-80 mph. Miller had WAY less to work with than Pedro, who, as you rightly say, might just be the best pitcher who ever threw.
over a 4 year span, yes. I agree with you but there are guys that have better overall career numbers, so it's a debate. Best stuff is not up for debate. He had 3 A+ pitches all with the same arm action.
@@lefthooklansing if you have to choose the best pitcher pick ever I think it's pedor by a mile, or at least Pedro is in the combo vs any other pitchers pick
T Nicholas exactly what always baffled me. Even watching on t.v. its incredible how little he'd tell on the mound. Guy at the plate must've been just as confused.
i sat behind home plate and watched him k 15 batters in a game around 2005. It was the most unbelievable thing in sports I had ever seen...guy was amazing and in his own league.
@@tnicholas6620 Don't know about the Detroit writers but the one that pissed me off was George King of the New York Post, left Pedro off the ballot because he said pitchers have their own award, the Cy Young. He voted for David Wells of the Yankees the year before.
@@LivinhItUp well, technically speaking, when he was with the Mets his fastball was topping off around 87mph. But when he pitched for the Phillies, he was getting back up to 91-93.
When he first got to Boston he had several years of absolute domination, it was pure joy watching him pitch, his change up had ridiculous movement and his fastball was electric
Pedro may have been the best pitcher of the last 20 years, all of his pitches being deadly regardless of the batter's count, especially his powerful four-seam straight.
Hard to choose between Maddox and Pedro. Pedro's fastball was more explosive than Greg's, But, Greg had a better command of all those pitches. Both were fun to watch.
I love this channel so much.....Pedro was the filthiest pitcher I've seem in my lifetime and his change has to be the best ever. Sometimes it was no different than a screwball, and nasty one at that.
In his prime pedro was the best. No one could hit that incredible circle change and his curveball was the nastiest ever .With his control he is the GOAT. Fuck kofax.
My only gripe with your videos is that they're not long enough...I could watch 10 minutes each of Pedro, Maddux, Clemens or the other greats just pitching away
Yankee fan here. I hated going against Pedro. Given he did what he did in the steroid era, I say he's the best ever. Only knock is he couldn't go long into games.
Best Pitcher Ever, I'm still shaking my head as to why he did not win the MVP in '99 and wondering how did Hideki Matsui hit a homer off his curve in the 2009 WS
Let's be frank. Pedro's Curveball was only so effective because 1, he could throw it for accuracy and, 2, his fastball was so good. I'll admit, his Sinker was good. It was a big reason he was hard to hit. But his Cutter was probably his worst pitch. It was only good because he could throw it for accuracy. In the end, Pedro was just a really good control pitcher with a great Fastball and an UNBELIEVABLE Changeup.
@@raymonddersch4195 - It's subjective because the uploader is grading them based on what they feel is an A+ vs an F. There's no universal grading system in place with some checked boxes as to whatever criteria is being fulfilled. If there were, then the grading system would be objective.
Pedro and Maddux are my two favorite pitchers of all time. I have to give the nod to Pedro though. Pitched in the American league with the DH so he didn't get the 3-4 "free outs" a game Maddux did. Plus, he was simply unhittable at times. Love 'em both though.
Lol, there is Google for you, go ahead and do your research. This guy was the best by faaaaaaar in his era, if we talking about careers yea he has a short prime or Peale, but between 97 and 03 he was a God among us
that was a terribly un-objective assessment. 97 mph. that might give you a grade A, just for talent. but, in terms of where its thrown, C. Average. Location for a four seam fastball is always up. Not middle, and not down - that is the territory of the two seam. Because the four seam is designed to stay level or even climb - its purpose is to induce pop flies...or strike outs, where the batter swings under the ball. The curveball thrown by Pedro, based on this video, is definitely A. If he's throwing it with the express purpose of freezing the hitter, he's got to take off velocity on purpose, to generate more spin - some throw it harder, like Pedro, this gives it the ability to mimic the fastball, until its too late for the hitter. The two seam is supposed to be thrown low...so, here, its a C, as well. What is a A+, is the changeup. He's clearly throwing it with a four-seam type plus okay grip - and, throwing it from 2 to 9, causing maximum drop, movement, along with velocity drop. Location is excellent in the video. A person who really knows his stuff is Greg Maddux; the Professor - he threw 85 mph, and is hall of fame stuff. You'll notice when Pedro's velocity drops to Maddux's territory, 85 mph, his ERA climbs to just under 5 a game. Proving what I'm telling you.
He did all of this during the steroid era and was considered a little guy by baseball standards. Impressive human
Best changeup of all time, and in my eyes, the best pitcher of all time
Had he not been injured during the 1999 and 2001 seasons, he would have had three consecutive sub-2.00 ERA seasons. The second best ERAs after him were 3.44 in '99, 3.70 in '00, and 3.05 in '01. There has never been a pitcher as dominant as he was form 1997 to 2003. Justin Verlander is having a Pedro-esque season this year but it's unlikely he'll have six more through 2024.
I would consider that Stu Miller's changeup was Pedro's equal, only because Mr. Martinez had grade A heat to set up his, and Miller's fastball probably topped out at 78-80 mph. Miller had WAY less to work with than Pedro, who, as you rightly say, might just be the best pitcher who ever threw.
over a 4 year span, yes. I agree with you but there are guys that have better overall career numbers, so it's a debate. Best stuff is not up for debate. He had 3 A+ pitches all with the same arm action.
@@lefthooklansing if you have to choose the best pitcher pick ever I think it's pedor by a mile, or at least Pedro is in the combo vs any other pitchers pick
@@erickgabriel3603 it’s between him, randy Johnson, or clemens for me
Pedro threw the most incredible change up I have ever seen
Pedro would show you a 96mph heater with a tail, then come back with a 78mph change that looked identical coming out of his hand...just wasn't fair...
T Nicholas exactly what always baffled me. Even watching on t.v. its incredible how little he'd tell on the mound. Guy at the plate must've been just as confused.
he was 93-98mph running fastball, great curveball, godly circle-change, and his control was insane
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When Pedro pitched, it wasn't just another game...it was an event. You didn't want to miss it.
Greatest pitcher I've ever seen.
IMHO he threw 3 different fastballs (4 seamer, cutter and 2 seamer), an awesome 12-6 curve and an outstanding circle change up.
That changeup is just... Wow.
My favorite pitcher of all time
i sat behind home plate and watched him k 15 batters in a game around 2005. It was the most unbelievable thing in sports I had ever seen...guy was amazing and in his own league.
99' Pedro was nasty. Should have won the MVP.
john owens everyone says that. And I agree. I was flabbergasted when I heard it was Ivan.
Pudge won the MVP that year because the two baseball writers from Detroit completely left Pedro off their ballots...
@@tnicholas6620 Don't know about the Detroit writers but the one that pissed me off was George King of the New York Post, left Pedro off the ballot because he said pitchers have their own award, the Cy Young. He voted for David Wells of the Yankees the year before.
@@tnicholas6620 Why did Detroit have beef with Pedro that season? Pudge wasnt on the Tigers back then
And he was even better in 2000. 2000 Pedro is the GOAT pitcher. 291 ERA+ lmao absurd
The fact that Pedro could still hit 92 at 40 years old as late as 2009 was pretty incredible. After all those innings….
Everything was about 5-8mph slower on all of his pitches, but they didn't lose any movement. I'll take his pitch repertoire over anyone elses.
@@LivinhItUp well, technically speaking, when he was with the Mets his fastball was topping off around 87mph. But when he pitched for the Phillies, he was getting back up to 91-93.
These pitching repertoire vids have been awesome! Thanks as always for the great content, MVPFLF!
thanks! & you're welcome!
I got to see his 1999 All Star Game performance live in person. It was the greatest thing I’ve ever seen
That Bugs Bunny change up was his best pitch and it's the best change up I've ever seen.
When he first got to Boston he had several years of absolute domination, it was pure joy watching him pitch, his change up had ridiculous movement and his fastball was electric
The world may never see a nastier change-up
Johan santana was nasty
@@osmanysvaldesg.3014 nah, he didn't last too long, johan change up movement was down while pedro's was down and to the right
His attitude on the mound reflects his command full pitching
Pedro may have been the best pitcher of the last 20 years, all of his pitches being deadly regardless of the batter's count, especially his powerful four-seam straight.
Praying for prime you can literally put him up there with any pitcher. No one was better and few were his equal
Pedro was the Greatest ever. Pitched from a lower mound in the steroid era. 5 years incredible numbers, 3 years unhittable. Pedro is the Greatest.
Hard to choose between Maddox and Pedro. Pedro's fastball was more explosive than Greg's, But, Greg had a better command of all those pitches. Both were fun to watch.
For 2 years, he was the best that ever played the game.
For 7 years. 97-03
Agreed
I love this channel so much.....Pedro was the filthiest pitcher I've seem in my lifetime and his change has to be the best ever. Sometimes it was no different than a screwball, and nasty one at that.
Reason why they call him "Pedro el grande".
Top 3 changup of all time
In his prime pedro was the best. No one could hit that incredible circle change and his curveball was the nastiest ever .With his control he is the GOAT. Fuck kofax.
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Dro!!!! My favorite! 99 00 etc 🙏
El mejor 🙌🏻
He got the scholarship with all A+
The BEST
Every batter looking back at the mound in frustration on the way back to the dugout muttering the Don Zimmer “Pedrroooooo...!!” “It was Pedddrrrooooo”
My only gripe with your videos is that they're not long enough...I could watch 10 minutes each of Pedro, Maddux, Clemens or the other greats just pitching away
I'd like to see Johan!
His breaking ball/curveball was so dirty
I reamber 04 all the screaming in Fenway every time he struck a guy out
His curveball & cutter weren't A. His 4 seam & change up made everything better
Cutter B+. His curveball was an A. His command was off the charts
He had a cutter and slider too
Goddamn, what a pitcher. I don't know how anyone was able to hit off of him at all
Nick Smith cause he's not that good
291 ERA+ in 2000. Yeah, I think he is that good.
Yankee fan here. I hated going against Pedro. Given he did what he did in the steroid era, I say he's the best ever. Only knock is he couldn't go long into games.
Could u possibly do Tim lincecum plz?
The freak!
He was nasty, I felt sorry for the hitters!! Top 5 GOAT along with Maddux, Randy Johnson and a select few other guys.
Nolan Ryan!
Bruh on the first font that says 4seam when it spins it looks like the star of david
I want to see Dave Stieb
Best Pitcher Ever, I'm still shaking my head as to why he did not win the MVP in '99 and wondering how did Hideki Matsui hit a homer off his curve in the 2009 WS
The Pedro of 2009 was not the Pedro of 1999...
NOLAN RYAN!!!
He didn't throw a 2-seamer his 4-seamer broke inside to righties he used to say sometimes it broke too much.
Stuff!
Rodger clemons please!!!!
Mvpflf which other pitcheing repertoire are u going to do in the near future?
Thor keeps coming to mind. RN I'm open to others. You guys tell me who you want to see for this series
MVPFLF How about Alex Wood?
MVPFLF randy johnson would be awesome
Orel Hershiser and Mike Mussina would be awesome if you want to keep doing the legend series guys. Both of my idols as a kid.
MVPFLF idk if it's wrong to say this but maybe Jose Fernandez?
Has un video sobre el repertorio de Randy johnson y rogers clemens
Nolan Ryan
That last pitch was not a slider was def a 2 seem fastball
Boston fans comments of course.
Ehh it was a different game back then. He was basically playing against accountants. Doubt he'd even make a team in 2022
What! He played deep in the steroid era and dominated
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that changeup is filthy...should be illegal
Did pedro ever hit at 100 mph?
Yea, I think his first season in the majors he hit 100 with the Dodgers
@@yorkeni and first game to boot. something about him being angry being a reliever and not starter
Let's be frank. Pedro's Curveball was only so effective because 1, he could throw it for accuracy and, 2, his fastball was so good. I'll admit, his Sinker was good. It was a big reason he was hard to hit. But his Cutter was probably his worst pitch. It was only good because he could throw it for accuracy. In the end, Pedro was just a really good control pitcher with a great Fastball and an UNBELIEVABLE Changeup.
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So dirty
When he was on…..not even close to hittable
Good video but no need for the subjective grading system on each pitch.
lol whatever
What no that’s awesome
I don't see anything subjective about any of Pedros pitches or the success he had over his career with them.
@@raymonddersch4195 - It's subjective because the uploader is grading them based on what they feel is an A+ vs an F. There's no universal grading system in place with some checked boxes as to whatever criteria is being fulfilled. If there were, then the grading system would be objective.
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Not better than Greg Maddux
Pedro and Maddux are my two favorite pitchers of all time. I have to give the nod to Pedro though. Pitched in the American league with the DH so he didn't get the 3-4 "free outs" a game Maddux did. Plus, he was simply unhittable at times. Love 'em both though.
@@raymonddersch4195 I can't be more agree with you
I shouldn't even qualify this with a comment. But please...The hate is real. Greatest to go....#45
the most overrated guy on baseball.
his era was so short.
i think Justin verlander & clayton kershaw are much better than this guy
Lol, there is Google for you, go ahead and do your research. This guy was the best by faaaaaaar in his era, if we talking about careers yea he has a short prime or Peale, but between 97 and 03 he was a God among us
that was a terribly un-objective assessment. 97 mph. that might give you a grade A, just for talent. but, in terms of where its thrown, C. Average. Location for a four seam fastball is always up. Not middle, and not down - that is the territory of the two seam. Because the four seam is designed to stay level or even climb - its purpose is to induce pop flies...or strike outs, where the batter swings under the ball.
The curveball thrown by Pedro, based on this video, is definitely A. If he's throwing it with the express purpose of freezing the hitter, he's got to take off velocity on purpose, to generate more spin - some throw it harder, like Pedro, this gives it the ability to mimic the fastball, until its too late for the hitter. The two seam is supposed to be thrown low...so, here, its a C, as well. What is a A+, is the changeup. He's clearly throwing it with a four-seam type plus okay grip - and, throwing it from 2 to 9, causing maximum drop, movement, along with velocity drop. Location is excellent in the video.
A person who really knows his stuff is Greg Maddux; the Professor - he threw 85 mph, and is hall of fame stuff. You'll notice when Pedro's velocity drops to Maddux's territory, 85 mph, his ERA climbs to just under 5 a game. Proving what I'm telling you.