Which of these two hot hatchbacks would you take home? Do you prefer the classic front-wheel-drive Civic Type R or the rally-inspired all-wheel-drive GR Corolla? Let us know in the comments!
I love both for different reasons, but when it comes down to it, the FL5 Type R is just that much better in every facet. Both cars feel special and are very limited...both will be highly sought after and valuable in the future, but the Civic Type R just feels even more special. Gimme one in Championship White, please! (I have a deposit on one for MSRP but no idea when my name will be called)
Absolutely loving this series, Edmunds U-Drags! It's such an innovative way to test out cars, blending the traditional quarter-mile drag with handling and rolling starts. This episode is a real treat, especially for hot hatch enthusiasts. The Civic Type R's horsepower or the GR Corolla's all-wheel-drive! Keep up the great work, always looking forward to the next episode. 👏🚗💨
Results were as expected. The CTR’s biggest disadvantage is it’s launch which somehow wasn’t an issue here. Trap speeds show that the CTR is just a faster car period. Good on Toyota for bringing the GR Corolla to the market though. What’s interesting is that even the GR86/BRZ is trapping at a higher speed than the GR Corolla. That little 3 cylinder just seems to run out of steam it seems. Obviously throw even the slightest bit of water into the equation and the GR Corolla absolutely lays waste to the CTR and GR86. If it were mine money, I’d take a GR Corolla Circuit with a slight tune.
The GR in this video has weight reduction with a brace in the back … was expecting it to be ahead of the CTR especially being lighter , AWD and stiffer bracing
@@sunrisesunset1734 Probably the driver. Throttle house, for example, did not have the CTR beating the GR Corolla in the 1/4 mile. However I don’t think the results would have changed for the total race.
Theres nothing wrong with the GR, or its AWD system “not being enough”. Its just that the Type R is that great of a car and that much better than the GR. Not crapping on GR, its a amazing car, but the Type R is just that much better.
in 1/4 mile the gr wins. I have started mods on my friends GR Corolla. Done cold air intake, exhaust Magna-flow , just sent ECU out to get tune loaded. Next is intercooler and downpipe.
@@kevinhamlett1400why did it lose in the 1/4 here then? Also, this is a Morizo edition, which is even lighter and has 22 more torque than the normal CRC.
The civic type r is amazing for a FWD car with so much power. It comes back so fast, and when it goes it goes. Two great cars indeed . The GRs only real advantage is off the line.
I have started mods on my friends GR Corolla. Done cold air intake, exhaust Magna-flow , just sent ECU out to get tune loaded. Next is intercooler and downpipe.
I understand the difficulty of this ask - however, matching new vs. used performance cars that might be cross-shopped would be very meaningful especially for people shopping for a sporty performance car. Finding a 'representative' used version would be the big challenge given that condition, mileage, etc, make a difference in price and potential performance losses in a vehicle. Still, if a metric for the used examples were to be developed and implemented, then I believe this to be possible, and would be a fantastic addition to U-Drags!
@@Whats-It-To-Ya My little BP Mazda3 awd hatch with 186h[/186tq would smoke an Explorer Interceptor, those Chargers might be a different story if driven by Arkansas State Police. They'll chase you to hell and pit you. Chargers are pretty damn heavy with all the equipment, partition cell, and police gear it's carrying.
@@DroneStrike1776 can confirm about the Explorer interceptors. The police department in my little hometown has two of them and I dragraced one of them down our back road with my '07 focus two-door hatch. It's got a Ford fusion 2.5 swap, 5-speed, LSD, fswerks intake, throttle body, header and full 2.5 inch cat back. The interceptor launched hard because of the AWD but I was 2.5 car lengths ahead when I shifted into 4th and just kept walking away from it. I never tried to find out (yet) but it's imagine my car would top out around 145, not sure about those explorer interceptor though.
Type R is just in a different league. Competing with high performance rwd sports cars. All the other hot hatches, compete with each other, where as the Type R competes with big time vehicles.
Very well done. You can't loose with either one. I am just glad in 2023, cars like this are still being made. Buy them people so they will continue to be made.
@@ppmnox That because if someone says its over priced which youre implying. One has to ask what other 50-60% hand built 200 car a year production vehicle you can buy at this price. If you have one you know itll be gold in a decade.
I’m really loving these races. I LOVE the course you all developed. It’s about as perfect as you can get for a total test in a short period. Now for a wish/challenge race. Before their time is totally up. The Korean Showdown. Kia Stinger GT2 RWD vs Genesis G70 V6 RWD with a proper upper package level. Sport vs. Luxury with virtually identical drive trains. Let’s do this.
Great setup for drags. Toyotas good for me. Honda driving only for 4 years now, LOVE IT. Honda type R amazing. But... for that toyota 3 cylinder... it is AMAZING to keep up.
the thing is that the way they launched the corolla in this video it''s not even close to the best they can do. If you maintain 6k revs you basicly are not doing any boost, so when you launch the car it just start building up boost from zero. On a "big turbo" and very boost dependent 3 cilinder it just bogs down. The best way for launching it it is just plant your foot down and while the revs are climbing and it's making boost, at around 6/6,5k rpm dunp the clutch. that way they run consisten high 13's 1/4 miles, around 13,8/13,9, that would make this test mostly a tie.
@@SilverScarletSpiderI think it's a great idea. The field they run this test on is an abandoned NASA airfield. There are two runways one roughly 7000ft and one roughly 8000ft long. They def have the room.
I believe that the Elantra N DCT will win this one. If is launched properly it will jump ahead and pull ahead. The CTR will close the gap a bit during the cornering part but the EN will pull away once they go to the final straight run. **Assuming that the EN was octane learned 🤣
Oh look another video of this two on perfect weather. The only difference is that somehow is the 1st in wish the GR losses in the 1/4 mile. Look the CTR is a little faster on a roll, same on a track. Gr might do better on a shorter/turn track. But the GR is not only built for dry track. How about doing rain,snow and mountains dirt back roads. Let’s see how those test turn out!
On another channel they said that the corolla feels like it limits power during launch. Seeing these two head to head it certainly looks to reinforce that statement...
@@deyeatdapoopoo7582the thing is that the way they launched the corolla in this video it''s not even close to the best they can do. If you maintain 6k revs you basicly are not doing any boost, so when you launch the car it just start building up boost from zero. On a "big turbo" and very boost dependent 3 cilinder it just bogs down. The best way for launching it it is just plant your foot down and while the revs are climbing and it's making boost, at around 6/6,5k rpm dunp the clutch. that way they run consisten high 13's 1/4 miles, around 13,8/13,9, that would make this test mostly a tie.
Yeah. The thing is supposedly the "special edition" and it still lost. the japanese version of the type R is 330 HP and would further leave the corolla in the dust.
Udrage suggestion: supra mk5 vs audi ttrs or rs5, porsche 718,is500 -Rs7 vs m8 grand coupe, gt 63. -Vw gti vs elantra N,lexus is 350 -bmw m340i vs audi s4,c43,mustang gt,kia sting, 400z
Please U-Drags do a FL5 vs an Elantra N DCT. No other channel will compare the manual Type R to an automatic Elantra N. Instead it’s always the manual vs manual, which in the Elantra N’s case is the slower of the two options.
@chuckclark4964 Camaro only has 275 HP, and on top of that, you factor in the drive train loss which is around 15% to the rear wheels, it's CONSIDERABLY less than the Type R, and cpl hundred lbs more
To be honest, for a 3 cylinder, awd, that Toyota is impressive, only .50 sec difference. That's definitely race inspired. Now, do the same race but in the dirt.
@@ii_dynasty my point is that the GR is more then just a track car on a sunny day. And that’s all this reviewers do. Yes the CTR is a little faster on a dry track but what about everything els!
@@JG-mg3if It depends on tires if you're referring to wet track situations. Since the civic is pull during the straights, I would say that the gr is ahead at the line but the civic pulls ahead after the u-turn.
Thanks for the real honest review. I wonder how much faster and rigid the Morizo edition is compared to the Circuit Edition. Also worth mentioning the GR Corolla with or without LSD's shares the exact same interior as a 2019 Corolla Ascent Sport, that fetches for AU$20,000.
I've heard of Si/Aspec guys launching in second gear since first is so short anyways, I wonder if that would have worked here (mechanical sympathy be damned) on the Type R? Either way, nothing beats a White ITR!!!
alright credit were it is due, this was a very entertaining video. great work edmunds team. please do more affordable cars. Audi RS3 vs Lexus IS500 u drag?
Love the format of these videos. I think my tuned M140i would destroy both of these by 2 seconds to the U turn, then wobble around it so badly both cars would overtake me lol 🙂
I think the reason the Toyota, and most other cars in the segment, have launch RPMs so low is that they don't want a ton of warranty transmission and clutch claims in the first year of ownership. Aftermarket tunes can rectify your problem for a small cost.
Wheel spin gives the engine a momentum boost that ends up making you faster. That's why 0 to 60 times are typically faster than 5 to 60 times for the same car.
You should put in a tesla model 3 LR in this mix because of the price being right in there., Or if you want, the SR version that has little under 300hp
Best way to launch the GR is off the rev limiter, in 60:40, with expert mode on. I have a Circuit Edition and if you're looking for absolute best results no matter how harsh on the car, that's the way to do it.
AWD is overrated. I understand people living in areas of rain and snow needing AWD but for the rest of us the Civic is overall a better package. Toyota interior is terrible
A circuit race would be more ideal for these cars since they are designed exactly for that. Great video nonetheless. The gearing here was not ideal for drag racing in defense of the GR Corolla Morizo. A Circuit Edition shines in a straight line against the Type R. The Type R, however, was not designed for going in a straight line.
Now have them race it against a 2005 WRX STI or Lance Evo. Kinda sad that a 2005 Subaru or Mitsubishi is still faster. And don't bring up reliability because these new Honda's are not reliable like the ones from the past.
@@carlospacheco8640 hondas can go 300k miles without breaking a sweat, subarus break in the first 10 miles, no offense to subaru, i wont say that for the older ones, some newer ones werent that good
@@chrism869 Again. Old Hondas!!!! I had many 90s ones. Yes 300k all day. Not these new ones. Why don't you actually go look at the last 10yrs of Honda's reliability. Once they went Turbo their reliability went down the drain even more. I would never buy a Subaru either because I know all about the head gasket issues. We are talking SPEED here.
I’m 61 and just bought a CTR. I have no regrets and I’m having a blast. I spent my whole driving life in “family” cars like SUVs & sedans and once the kids were all out doing their own thing I went out and bought me a little race car.
Toyota needs help creating a true performance vehicle. They can't seem to get at least one right . The Lfa was a flop . The supra is a collab . LC500 was ok but not wowing its fans . They just have a good reputation for not breaking.
@@jamesbarbato2192 It costed Toyota over $700 to build each LFA and they sold them at a $300-350K loss each. How is that not a loss to Toyota??? They don't make any profit from private sales lol.
This is the morizo too with the extra torque and better tires, I figured the core base model would loose to a type r but not the morizo! Honda always takes it to Toyota since the beginning!
swapping drivers was such a great thing , both drivers did a great job and it was all about the car . mind you the Toyota has 4wd no rear seats and is the top spec while the civic is just a plain jane in my books , Honda could do so much more to optimize the performance but wont do it and the fans know it .
So I used to race a CRX SiR, I enjoyed this but would like to see how the gearbox is myself as the shifts were a little slow imo…. Also you can break later making sure to set the cars up for the turns. But still entertaining.
Which of these two hot hatchbacks would you take home? Do you prefer the classic front-wheel-drive Civic Type R or the rally-inspired all-wheel-drive GR Corolla? Let us know in the comments!
Any chance you could also run a GR Yaris in the future for comparison to the Corolla variant?
Honda Type R 👌
I love both for different reasons, but when it comes down to it, the FL5 Type R is just that much better in every facet. Both cars feel special and are very limited...both will be highly sought after and valuable in the future, but the Civic Type R just feels even more special. Gimme one in Championship White, please! (I have a deposit on one for MSRP but no idea when my name will be called)
@@Blas4ublasphemy Where would they get one? It's not sold in the US.
Type R all day
Absolutely loving this series, Edmunds U-Drags! It's such an innovative way to test out cars, blending the traditional quarter-mile drag with handling and rolling starts. This episode is a real treat, especially for hot hatch enthusiasts. The Civic Type R's horsepower or the GR Corolla's all-wheel-drive! Keep up the great work, always looking forward to the next episode. 👏🚗💨
Glad to hear you're enjoying!
Both cars are a waste of money when you can purchase a Golf R.
I’d rather stab myself in the eye than drive a golf r
U-DRAGs are the coolest, most clever and meaningful races on TH-cam!!
100%!!
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Results were as expected. The CTR’s biggest disadvantage is it’s launch which somehow wasn’t an issue here. Trap speeds show that the CTR is just a faster car period. Good on Toyota for bringing the GR Corolla to the market though. What’s interesting is that even the GR86/BRZ is trapping at a higher speed than the GR Corolla. That little 3 cylinder just seems to run out of steam it seems. Obviously throw even the slightest bit of water into the equation and the GR Corolla absolutely lays waste to the CTR and GR86.
If it were mine money, I’d take a GR Corolla Circuit with a slight tune.
The GR in this video has weight reduction with a brace in the back … was expecting it to be ahead of the CTR especially being lighter , AWD and stiffer bracing
Back to square one if the civic gets a tune or water
@@groundhabit6408 It could be faster. Others have launched the GR Corolla faster. But I think the results would still be the same.
the launch SOMEHOW wasn't an issue here... LOL
wonder what went wrong..
@@sunrisesunset1734 Probably the driver. Throttle house, for example, did not have the CTR beating the GR Corolla in the 1/4 mile. However I don’t think the results would have changed for the total race.
Ahh love these races
Love both cars! I drive a Type R. I wouldn’t mind a Toyota either.
Ahh, the famous Honda 3rd gear!!
This is very true
You guys are killing me with the launches. You don't just drop the clutch You slip it. Keep it at peak torque until your going at maximum friction.
AGREED. Gee... I wonder why it bogged lol. Mid 14s from that Corolla is WOEFUL driving.
It's a great "liddle" thing 😢😢
I smell burning
Theres nothing wrong with the GR, or its AWD system “not being enough”. Its just that the Type R is that great of a car and that much better than the GR. Not crapping on GR, its a amazing car, but the Type R is just that much better.
Another banger. Love these Udrags. Type R is gonna win though I know it.
in 1/4 mile the gr wins. I have started mods on my friends GR Corolla. Done cold air intake, exhaust Magna-flow , just sent ECU out to get tune loaded. Next is intercooler and downpipe.
@kevinhamlett1400 where do you get your aftermarket parts, if you don't mind me asking? I'll be buying a 2024 GR Corolla in a few months :)
@@kevinhamlett1400why did it lose in the 1/4 here then? Also, this is a Morizo edition, which is even lighter and has 22 more torque than the normal CRC.
@@kevinhamlett1400you much think they are really cool 😂
@@kevinhamlett1400 Stop with the bullshit bro. I'm not buying it.
The civic type r is amazing for a FWD car with so much power. It comes back so fast, and when it goes it goes. Two great cars indeed . The GRs only real advantage is off the line.
Corolla vs Civic rivals never disappoint you so excited 🔥
That's impressive for a 3⃣ cylinder
also crazy price for a 3 cylinder
@@povboy009ahh yes the only think you get is the 3 cylinder
@@povboy009Kaizen 🤡👑
@@tyhyhh explain why the car lost against a cheaper fwd car
A 3 cylinder with a turbo won't last that many miles if you plan on keeping it for a while.
I have started mods on my friends GR Corolla. Done cold air intake, exhaust Magna-flow , just sent ECU out to get tune loaded. Next is intercooler and downpipe.
Then you can redo the internals after it explodes...
@@davids1816These are good for 500whp on bottom end stock internals.
@@davids1816they have been shown on gr yaris to make around 500whp on stock internals with no problems. They're quite tough little engines
@@Garcheezy but for realistically how long?
$54k for a Corolla! Never thought I’d see the day 😮
Never thought I would see the day that Challengers go for over $100K!
Never thought I’d see the day that Toyota would make an AWD turbo corolla.
🤡 that's cheap
@@AngelValdovinos no you've just been trained to be good little consumer puppet by corporate America LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
And it's worth about 35k. Overpriced by 20k, sad really...
I understand the difficulty of this ask - however, matching new vs. used performance cars that might be cross-shopped would be very meaningful especially for people shopping for a sporty performance car. Finding a 'representative' used version would be the big challenge given that condition, mileage, etc, make a difference in price and potential performance losses in a vehicle. Still, if a metric for the used examples were to be developed and implemented, then I believe this to be possible, and would be a fantastic addition to U-Drags!
Pointless in comparing new vs old...
Nice race! Like another hot lap on track video that I saw, the Honda is definitely faster!
Waiting for a C8 Z06 vs Porsche GT3 RS U-Drag race, guys!
It would be interesting to see what modern performance cars would do versus police package vehicles in this kind of test?
It would be a swift ass kicking
I agree would be interesting
Police packages are heavy and slow. Any v6 Mustang or Camaro will dust a police car
@@Whats-It-To-Ya My little BP Mazda3 awd hatch with 186h[/186tq would smoke an Explorer Interceptor, those Chargers might be a different story if driven by Arkansas State Police. They'll chase you to hell and pit you. Chargers are pretty damn heavy with all the equipment, partition cell, and police gear it's carrying.
@@DroneStrike1776 can confirm about the Explorer interceptors. The police department in my little hometown has two of them and I dragraced one of them down our back road with my '07 focus two-door hatch. It's got a Ford fusion 2.5 swap, 5-speed, LSD, fswerks intake, throttle body, header and full 2.5 inch cat back. The interceptor launched hard because of the AWD but I was 2.5 car lengths ahead when I shifted into 4th and just kept walking away from it. I never tried to find out (yet) but it's imagine my car would top out around 145, not sure about those explorer interceptor though.
That CTR puts down some serious power to those front two wheels!
Love these "real car" races!
Type R is just in a different league. Competing with high performance rwd sports cars. All the other hot hatches, compete with each other, where as the Type R competes with big time vehicles.
The Corolla is rated at like 30 MPG! I'm a Honda Boy and love the Type R but commuting in a GR would be easier on the bank account with that MPG.
Very well done. You can't loose with either one. I am just glad in 2023, cars like this are still being made. Buy them people so they will continue to be made.
The demand for these cars far exceeds the supply.
@@scrambie I hope that sends a message throughout the car industry that these are the kind of cars we want and people will buy them.
I drove my friend's Type-R, I'm telling you that engine is something else. Now, I wanna see a similar race between the Integra Type S vs Civic Type R
$50k for that gr is absolutely ridiculous.
here in Canada Morizo Edition for sale for like $80k
@@povboy009
What other options do you have a golf r or a wrx?
@@tyhyhhwhy must there be another option? my comment is strictly about the price, which is ridiculous.
@@ppmnox That because if someone says its over priced which youre implying. One has to ask what other 50-60% hand built 200 car a year production vehicle you can buy at this price. If you have one you know itll be gold in a decade.
This is the best drag Ive seen in TH-cam period
I got into an argument with some bloke over CTR vs Model Y. Yes, I know, two completely different cars, but I still think you guys should do it.
I love these U-Drags races! Let’s go📢
they never dissapoint
I’m really loving these races. I LOVE the course you all developed. It’s about as perfect as you can get for a total test in a short period.
Now for a wish/challenge race. Before their time is totally up. The Korean Showdown. Kia Stinger GT2 RWD vs Genesis G70 V6 RWD with a proper upper package level. Sport vs. Luxury with virtually identical drive trains.
Let’s do this.
Some hot hatch love 🔥🔥🔥
Great setup for drags. Toyotas good for me. Honda driving only for 4 years now, LOVE IT. Honda type R amazing.
But... for that toyota 3 cylinder... it is AMAZING to keep up.
the thing is that the way they launched the corolla in this video it''s not even close to the best they can do. If you maintain 6k revs you basicly are not doing any boost, so when you launch the car it just start building up boost from zero. On a "big turbo" and very boost dependent 3 cilinder it just bogs down. The best way for launching it it is just plant your foot down and while the revs are climbing and it's making boost, at around 6/6,5k rpm dunp the clutch. that way they run consisten high 13's 1/4 miles, around 13,8/13,9, that would make this test mostly a tie.
I`d love to see the return run be a 1/2 mile section to the finish. 1/4 mile start, handling section & 1/2 return!
better yet make it a 1 mile drag race at the end
@@SilverScarletSpiderI think it's a great idea. The field they run this test on is an abandoned NASA airfield. There are two runways one roughly 7000ft and one roughly 8000ft long. They def have the room.
...upvote...great suggestion...you can still track the 1/4 return time...just stay on the gas for another 1/4-3/4...
Motor trend
Gr corolla 1/4 mile 13.7
Civic type r 1/4 mile 13.9
Was there ever a doubt though... the fwd king is the king for a reason
Gotta retest the Elantra N DCT now
I believe that the Elantra N DCT will win this one.
If is launched properly it will jump ahead and pull ahead. The CTR will close the gap a bit during the cornering part but the EN will pull away once they go to the final straight run.
**Assuming that the EN was octane learned 🤣
Lol nobody even knows that trash
@@bpvineethkrishna9553bro what? Almost everyone knows what an Elantra N is. You’re dumb and just trying to troll.
Love the U Drags!!!! It's a much better metric than drag racing.
I'm surprised the handbrake was not used in the Corolla for the turn
Oh look another video of this two on perfect weather. The only difference is that somehow is the 1st in wish the GR losses in the 1/4 mile. Look the CTR is a little faster on a roll, same on a track. Gr might do better on a shorter/turn track. But the GR is not only built for dry track. How about doing rain,snow and mountains dirt back roads. Let’s see how those test turn out!
On another channel they said that the corolla feels like it limits power during launch. Seeing these two head to head it certainly looks to reinforce that statement...
That and 1st gear is too long which coupled with turbo lag means it doesn't really get to take advantage of the additional traction off the line.
@@deyeatdapoopoo7582the thing is that the way they launched the corolla in this video it''s not even close to the best they can do. If you maintain 6k revs you basicly are not doing any boost, so when you launch the car it just start building up boost from zero. On a "big turbo" and very boost dependent 3 cilinder it just bogs down. The best way for launching it it is just plant your foot down and while the revs are climbing and it's making boost, at around 6/6,5k rpm dunp the clutch. that way they run consisten high 13's 1/4 miles, around 13,8/13,9, that would make this test mostly a tie.
Love the U Drag but I can't imagine too many are spending $50k for the Morizo, I mean I paid that for my turbo 6 Supra two years ago.
Yeah. The thing is supposedly the "special edition" and it still lost. the japanese version of the type R is 330 HP and would further leave the corolla in the dust.
I knew the civic was good. Was honestly very surprised with it besting the Corolla with its awd. Great cars both of these 🫡
base gr corolla beats the civic-r off the line and in the quarter.. something happened here to make this differ from all the othe reviews... lol
Can you do this with the Golf R
Udrage suggestion: supra mk5 vs audi ttrs or rs5, porsche 718,is500
-Rs7 vs m8 grand coupe, gt 63.
-Vw gti vs elantra N,lexus is 350
-bmw m340i vs audi s4,c43,mustang gt,kia sting, 400z
Please U-Drags do a FL5 vs an Elantra N DCT. No other channel will compare the manual Type R to an automatic Elantra N. Instead it’s always the manual vs manual, which in the Elantra N’s case is the slower of the two options.
These are the videos we need, no silly mismatches that makes no sense to compare
That Honda really is amazing.
Great video. I would love to see the Elantra N vs the type R. I've heard that the GR Corolla's Dyno does not reflect the power.
Throttle House did a video Type R ve Elantra N and it wasn't even close. Type R ate it for breakfast. It's in an entirely different league
That's like a you vs the guy she told you not to worry about situation
I wonder about the type R vs a 2.0 Camaro. They are quick and handle like crazy
@chuckclark4964 Camaro only has 275 HP, and on top of that, you factor in the drive train loss which is around 15% to the rear wheels, it's CONSIDERABLY less than the Type R, and cpl hundred lbs more
@jordanchitwood7278 If so, then why do they run similar quarter mile times? Torque would be the correct answer 😆
To be honest, for a 3 cylinder, awd, that Toyota is impressive, only .50 sec difference. That's definitely race inspired. Now, do the same race but in the dirt.
but the engine there works really helps cover up the weaknesses of fwd, the engine with a very relaxed boost.
They won’t, all reviews are on perfect weather. Advantage CTR..
@JG-mg3if the GR is awd? It has the advantage and there isn't even much of a weight difference either.
@@ii_dynasty my point is that the GR is more then just a track car on a sunny day. And that’s all this reviewers do. Yes the CTR is a little faster on a dry track but what about everything els!
@@JG-mg3if It depends on tires if you're referring to wet track situations. Since the civic is pull during the straights, I would say that the gr is ahead at the line but the civic pulls ahead after the u-turn.
Type R is the best
the Launch on that Corolla is not where it needs to be but good stuff
That Honda is such a weapon , Honda power undeniable.
Thanks for the real honest review. I wonder how much faster and rigid the Morizo edition is compared to the Circuit Edition. Also worth mentioning the GR Corolla with or without LSD's shares the exact same interior as a 2019 Corolla Ascent Sport, that fetches for AU$20,000.
I've heard of Si/Aspec guys launching in second gear since first is so short anyways, I wonder if that would have worked here (mechanical sympathy be damned) on the Type R? Either way, nothing beats a White ITR!!!
Love both cars. Can’t go
Wrong with either
So true, if I were forced to choose, it would have to be the civic only because of its better looks. I guess. 🤷
Love both cars I’d get both if I could.. but if I could only choose one it would be The Type R in red
alright credit were it is due, this was a very entertaining video. great work edmunds team. please do more affordable cars. Audi RS3 vs Lexus IS500 u drag?
The RS3 and the IS500 cost quite a lot more than the cars in this video
@@LafemmebearMusic not really that much more.
Rs3 base is 61k, so about 16k more than a civic type r.
Awesome! Now bring out the FK8 and do it again please!
FK8 is ugly AF nobody cares about that!
Had the FK8 and now FL5, it's just a better car...it's denial to think it's not
@@van_der_lindeDA really a matter of opinion. Styling is subjective. Performance figures are not.
@vasekvi no the FL5 is better in every aspect....I was owning the fk8 and lying to myself until I got thr FL5....
@@van_der_lindeDA every aspect except an opinion on styling and performance which has already been proven
Why wasnt the traction control turned off on the morizo?
Another great one keep them coming
I expected the Civic to win, but I think the GR Corolla would've done better than it did in this video if it was at 50/50 power delivery
No 50/50 is to much understeer
@@alexandredufour7358incorrect
@@Wdedeadpoolwlsn if you say so
KONA N would kill that Corolla Chorizo. Would still lose to the CTR, tho.
Please do Civic Type R vs Integra Type S
These drags are WAY better than just straight lines lol
You should do not only a driver switch but also a lane switch. So a total of 4 races for the most amount of data and fairness.
*_Vtec kicked in 🥹_*
Love the format of these videos.
I think my tuned M140i would destroy both of these by 2 seconds to the U turn, then wobble around it so badly both cars would overtake me lol 🙂
Probably. 😅
I think the reason the Toyota, and most other cars in the segment, have launch RPMs so low is that they don't want a ton of warranty transmission and clutch claims in the first year of ownership. Aftermarket tunes can rectify your problem for a small cost.
I don’t understand why they’re both saying they want to generate “wheel spin” on the takeoff. That’s the opposite of what u wanna do…
Wheel spin gives the engine a momentum boost that ends up making you faster. That's why 0 to 60 times are typically faster than 5 to 60 times for the same car.
The Corolla did win off the line and that's were the advantage stops for AWD. The Honda Civic will be the next James bond car!
Thats limited run edition GR Corolla to when thats the standard Type R you can find at any dealer.
You should put in a tesla model 3 LR in this mix because of the price being right in there.,
Or if you want, the SR version that has little under 300hp
Best way to launch the GR is off the rev limiter, in 60:40, with expert mode on. I have a Circuit Edition and if you're looking for absolute best results no matter how harsh on the car, that's the way to do it.
How does it take the 7 seconds to hit 60 in the corolla? that's super slow.
AWD is overrated. I understand people living in areas of rain and snow needing AWD but for the rest of us the Civic is overall a better package. Toyota interior is terrible
These are the BEST!!
A circuit race would be more ideal for these cars since they are designed exactly for that. Great video nonetheless. The gearing here was not ideal for drag racing in defense of the GR Corolla Morizo. A Circuit Edition shines in a straight line against the Type R. The Type R, however, was not designed for going in a straight line.
How about a Golf R with DSG (or an Audi S3) vs Honda Type R?
Type R wouldn't be able to beat a DSG Golf R. I think a DCT Elantra N might even be faster.
Honda/Acura are hard to beat…proud owner of the Acura MDX
Just came across you guys...would love a U drive between Honda FIT RS vs Suzuki Swift Sport. Whole race would take a minute 😅
It's all about the power to weight ratio.
Both 14 second quarter milers. Thats embarrassing 😂
I'd love to see those stacked up against my NA Acura TL SHAWD.
TL is too heavy lol. A 50 k roll maybe.
@AcuraPerformance that's what I'm saying. It'd be a really cool mashup.
As a GR Yaris owner, best launch is 70 front 30 rear , putting power more to the rear wil bog the car burn the clutch
Did a little elmer fud there there at 4:02 lol 😂😂😂😂
i would take the Corolla all the way for the winter in canada :) the honda is amazing too
Honda has proved that they are the best all around manufacturer.
civic wins as expected
Now have them race it against a 2005 WRX STI or Lance Evo. Kinda sad that a 2005 Subaru or Mitsubishi is still faster. And don't bring up reliability because these new Honda's are not reliable like the ones from the past.
@@carlospacheco8640 go away
@@carlospacheco8640 hondas can go 300k miles without breaking a sweat, subarus break in the first 10 miles, no offense to subaru, i wont say that for the older ones, some newer ones werent that good
@@chrism869 Again. Old Hondas!!!! I had many 90s ones. Yes 300k all day. Not these new ones. Why don't you actually go look at the last 10yrs of Honda's reliability. Once they went Turbo their reliability went down the drain even more. I would never buy a Subaru either because I know all about the head gasket issues. We are talking SPEED here.
@@AbuBawa-sw1ut We found the "Honda is faster than everything" guy :) I have owned many Honda's bud. Not a hater. I just like facts.
God if I was in my 20s again that type R would be mine. I'm 57 now😊
Never too old
@@PoopLasagna💯
Integra Type S entered the chat
I’m 61 and just bought a CTR. I have no regrets and I’m having a blast. I spent my whole driving life in “family” cars like SUVs & sedans and once the kids were all out doing their own thing I went out and bought me a little race car.
Check out the Acura TLX.
Another great video! Would like to have seen the corolla do a full rev limiter clutch dump.
Toyota needs help creating a true performance vehicle. They can't seem to get at least one right . The Lfa was a flop . The supra is a collab . LC500 was ok but not wowing its fans . They just have a good reputation for not breaking.
The LFA was a flop? They sold all of them and now they’re going for over $1 million.
What the fuck are you talking about? Toyota LED the codeveloped projects of GR86 and GR Supra. LC500 is a luxury car. The LFA was a legend.
And even with the LFA they had help from Yamaha lol
Toyota is the second-largest stakeholder in the Yamaha, holding about 3.8% of the company's shares.@@drivescene6747
@@jamesbarbato2192 It costed Toyota over $700 to build each LFA and they sold them at a $300-350K loss each. How is that not a loss to Toyota??? They don't make any profit from private sales lol.
This is the morizo too with the extra torque and better tires, I figured the core base model would loose to a type r but not the morizo! Honda always takes it to Toyota since the beginning!
swapping drivers was such a great thing , both drivers did a great job and it was all about the car . mind you the Toyota has 4wd no rear seats and is the top spec while the civic is just a plain jane in my books , Honda could do so much more to optimize the performance but wont do it and the fans know it .
Love u drag’s ! More!
So I used to race a CRX SiR, I enjoyed this but would like to see how the gearbox is myself as the shifts were a little slow imo…. Also you can break later making sure to set the cars up for the turns. But still entertaining.
The Type R vs the Integra Type S is the one I want to see for ultimate fwd performance bragging rights. More U-Drags please.
Precision Honda Engineering!
Much better than a standard drag race. These cars take off like they are towing 3000lbs. They look so slow on a big strip like that.
The Greatest race type in the world and Honda is simply the best
Se manifestaron los 15 hp extras con esos 5 metros de diferencia en la meta...