Professional Violinist Rates Musicians in Movies [Part 1]
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Hey ya'll! Had fun making this video. Here we rate movie scenes which have musicians and analyze why some do it better than others.
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How about the 4mil concert by TwoSet? Would love to hear your opinion. Especially about the part where you gave Brett the tips for improving his fingerings. And maybe also the cadenza! 😊 And any other part you'd like to comment on, honestly.
Funny thing is the guy in the gray suit in the first movie, Richard Southgate, is actually a trained violinist!
Chinese drama Love scenery when the student plays Tschaikowsky violin concierto in D (I know it's fake, but I like the drama and the soundtrack). I will look for the episode and time if you want to review it. Also The Piano because I love the soundtrack.
Nodame Cantabile please, either the live action or the anime! 😊
Amadeus movie where he corrects Saleri!
Ray isn’t quite as ruthless as Brett and Eddy when he rated violin scenes.
I agree! Brett and Eddy will always crank the roasting knob when talking about violin in movies!
It's because he doesn't have Ling Ling Insurance yet!
@@zazazebee petition to get ray lingling insurance
actually Ray gave a much lower score to the violinist in Le Concert than Brett & Eddy
@@jimmywu6471 I agree!!!
Ray is picking up where Brett and Eddy left off with their roasts
picking off
True!!!
@@brookev2371 picking up*
…and im ALL HERE FOR IT
Brett and Eddy did a rotisserie of these movie musicians! That’s how bad they roasted them.
"Le concert" is actually a really good movie, I'd recommend it.
This violin soloist gets asked to play Tchaikovsky with an orchestra that was disbanded years ago because they stood up to the political regime in Russia. They've all gone their own way, and haven't practised in years. But the conductor gets them all back together, however they dont rehearse begore the big opening and thats why it's absolutely horrific at the beginning, but once the soloist starts to play, they all slowly come together.
The movie is about the magic of coming together through music, putting aside any differences, and reaching for perfection.
Absolutely recommend it, well worth the watch, and the main actress (Mélanie Laurent) is amazing. Granted, violin skills aren't great but the acting is top notch otherwise :)
Wow this is super insightful! Ok but what about the super annoying guy? What’s his role?
@@RayChenViolinist so basically he used to be in the orchestra that was disbanded, but then he kind of went back to his family and didn't play professionally anymore. Many of these musicians are quite poor and end up playing on the street or with groups of Gypsies.
This guy in question is definitely annoying, and the context is that the orchestra members have been basically partying in Paris instead of rehearsing (because they get a chance to travel there for the first time in their life). The soloist (the woman) is annoyed that they think they don't need to rehearse and questions their competence.
The guy starts to show off to prove they can still play.
Obviously at the end, on he day of the concert, it starts off awful because they haven't played in 30 years lol. But they all come together and deliver an incredible performance in the end.
I don't know who scored it but it was awesome! Except they had to cut part of the concerto to make it a bit shorter. But they still left a long 15-20min scene of the actual concert at the end.
@@Lindraella Thank you for your well explained summary! I also love this movie and in fact, I LOVE the "super annoying guy" hahahaha! He is a very respected gypsy violinist, Anghel Gheorghe. Menuhin only allowed gypsy musicians when he was eating out in restaurants, and I am sure he would approve Mr Gheorghe!
@@kw3560 awesome, I didn't know that! I'm going to look him up now :)
@@RayChenViolinist by the way, I just realized this movie is available for free on TH-cam (in the US), in case you ever want to check it out or have time to kill!
I remember when TwoSet made a recording of 'what it would have actually sounded like on set' for the first movie. I almost died
What’s the video called?
David Garrett played Paganini in the Devil's Violinist and he made the musical arrengements too. In Le concert, the guy playing the Paganini No. 24 is an actual violinist. His name is Gheorghe „Caliu“ Anghel , comes from Romania , he belongs to the Romani people and is the director of the band "Taraf de Caliu" which was founded as replacement of "Taraf de Haïdouks" (fun fact: Menuhin was fan of them) .
The historic Paganini mostly toured with a guitarist not an orchestra
David Garrett is a horrible violinist! I would never hire him to play anything, LOL!
@@ondinehd6889 OK, who are you?
@@Visitkarte You want me to tell you who I am, on the internet??? LOL! I hope you know well that we are not supposed to do that for the safety of all of us. But I'll just say this: both my parents have had long, and successful international performing careers , my father is a concert-violinist, and my mother is a concert-pianist. They also taught respectively at two of the most prestigious music conservatories in the the world, and my step-father was principal cellist of one of the most important orchestras in the world for many years. So, I do know what I am talking about.
@@ondinehd6889 the question was who are YOU, not who are your relatives.
To illuminate the spotlight in the 18 hundreds. That was actually possible at the time, not in that modern color tone but it could be done. You would reflect a strong lamp through a lens and mirror contraption. Loui the 14 used this in some of his stage plays even earlier when depicting the sun god. Though it was a heavy, cumbersome and expensive apparatus. Unlikely to be in a place like the one in the movie and it’s light would have been less focused and very jellow.
Again - learning from you history buffs
I think that's supposed to be limelight. It was discovered in 1820s, was used at Covent Garden Theatre from 1837 and became widespread in 1860s at theatres. So it couldn't have been used at that concert but it's not that far off either.
Funny thing is the guy in the gray suit in the first movie, Richard Southgate, is actually a trained violinist!
How this man can do so many entertaining things yet with so much quality. First soloist, not bad, then Tonic and now (along with others) getting active again on a youtube channel. Giving free masterclasses on Tonic and still being so classy, brilliant, kind, polite, funny. Is this man for real?
I’ll definitely watch a movie where Ray plays a violinist 🎉
I've already added to my list in Netflix 😄😄
Me too
We saw you yesterday in concert in Wiesbaden. It was amazing! Our 11 years old son was so sad when you sad you need to save energy for A Dur later. He wanted to see more of you. But we had to leave during the break. Too late for our son Yunis. Thank you for a wonderful performance ❤
Ah! Next time!! 🫠
@@RayChenViolinist Going to Singapore anytime soon? I know it's not going to happen for Malaysia. 🥲
@@Y3llow_Submarin3 Ray Chen came to Malaysia in 2018, I was there, it was Symphonie Espagnole, truly beautiful piece played by him. I don't know when will Ray come to Malaysia or Singapore anytime soon tho, he also went to Singapore for prokofiev violin concerto no 2 in 2019, I was also there lol.
i love the editors for Ray's and Twoset's videos. they're so...
A M AAAAAAAAAAAA Z I N G
for the devil's violinist scene, paganini was supposed to be on stage and the piece they were supposed to be playing was concerto 1. that's why the orchestra is there and they looked befuddled. paganini walks in late and decides to do caprice 24 instead. that's why it looks odd unless you watch the previous couple of scenes.
Is no one going to talk about Ray composing the music for the movie.. you are amazing!
I like that Ray seemed to rate the actors on how well they could make him suspend disbelief and enjoy the show.
I love his humble titles "professional violinist" instead of the more accurate "world class soloist." That's why he's the kind of guy we all want to be friends with. Haha.
Thanks Ray Chen. You are one of the great violin stars of this world. Full movie list:
High Strung (2016) 0:58
The Violin Teacher (2012) 5:40
The Song Of Names (2019) 7:19
The Concert (2009) 9:10
The Devils Violinist (2019) 13:31
From the movie "Le Concert", the violinist playing in a circle and than switching to paganini is Caliu, a very talented violinist from Romania and I would love if you would react to his music and band called "Taraf de Caliu" because he trully is a master!
And if you search the internet you find Johnny Depp talking about their music, they got to know each other during the filming of the movie "The man who cried"
Also search for "Taraf de Haidouks"
I'm happy to see "Hank" again. He's so easygoing despite the fact that you got all the music talent in the family. Maybe Hank is a math whizz?!
I wish Hollywood would make a movie starring Ray Chen! It would be amazing to watch him rock out on his violin on the big screen.
We need ray to have ling ling insurance so he can be more ruthless with the roasts! 😈😈😈
Any video you create with Brett and Eddy is sure to be a winner! But I know they are busy getting ready for their tour.
I think you should really watch "Le Concert" the scene makes absolute sense if you know the story line. And in addition, it is hilarious. Of course, the actor of the conductor was not really conducting, but the musicians got trainers to be able to act realistically.
🤣haha Ray let Hank out. He must be practicing on Tonic🎻
The guy from the "The concert" film is a Romanian violonist he's from my country and he is very popular aroud here 😁
Glad to see Hank again.
Thanks you for introducing The Song of Names to us @7:19, and a short clip, Violin Teacher scene, from Parental Guidance (2012) @5:45. In addition, the full Violin Teacher scene clip can be found on TH-cam 20th Century Studios UK.
Ray is hilarious and the movie review was fun and insightful! Looking forward to more vids from Ray
Ray, you' re doing great.😊
Eagerly waiting for the regular uploads! 😊
Did Ray just play flight of the bumblebee in less than a MINUTE? Holy macaroni
😂 More please! Always happy to get notifications from your channel Ray! 🎉
Fun video! Glad to see you're back regularly. :D
So good to see a musician of your level with this happy sense of humor. Greetings from Brazil
I love your violin even over TH-cam, the beautiful sound comes through.
Absolutely incredible scenes... Very enjoying this fresh approach to spread classical music knowledge through entertainment
Ray replicating the music is too wonderful
I'd love to see you react to "Tár", the Todd Field film with Cate Blanchett.
How did I miss the notification for this? Thanks for the fun video!
Wunderbar! More more more!
Super! Loved the video!
I've seen you on the Queen Elisabeth Compétition! I've been a fan ever since. Greetings from Belgium!
Liked and subscribed. I love your analysis. I haven't seen these films either.
Very good ratings overall! It was enjoyable to watch.
What about Arcane? That guy seemed to know what he was doing. And the syncing was flawless.
"Violin's Ray Chen" He belongs to the the violin now 😂
Honestly, not trying tease, it just struck my funny bone! ("How do I introduce myself again?")
Really brilliant , cheers
LMAO Can imagine the whole video just by the cover
Feeling super excited as a Twoset&Ray's fan😻
Same! TwoSet/Ray Boi fan here!
Hey Ray, you performed the score for that movie, NICE!🔥😁 Also, I am with you regarding that bow hitting scene. Whether a hobbyist or professional, people sacrificially spend (what is for them) a lot of money for their violin and bow so you don’t play around with either.
When you showed the pic from the movie of the violinist and the dancer, I knew that I was already done. I would not hold my violin like that around anyone, including my husband!😂
I love these videos and need MORE PLEASE AND THANK YOU!
I have listened to your music but never seen a video. You're great, certainly am going to watch more of them. This is a lot of fun!
Kudos for editor-chaaan❤
He was too generous in giving the scores.
This is a great episode. If you haven't done another review. For the red violin, I would love to see it.
Very interesting, thanks :)
Ray's reviews are so cute and polite 🌞
This was pretty entertaining! You should do more- Lestat scene form Queen of the Damned is a grate place to start!
Would recommend Chinese film 和你在一起 which has very very realistic violining and a joy to watch as a musician (:
I like such videos a lot. You should definatly do more of those.😊
That perfect pitch
I really like ray’s cute response 😊😊😊😊 and you really answer my questions when I am watching those movie. I always wonder r they really playing 😂
In the last clip, from Legends of Tomorrow, it seems like the actress, Tala Ashe really played the violin, as she has practiced since young age.
Ray great video, by the way was your T-shirt specially made for you or is it available as I would love one.🙂
I want to see you play the violin in a movie soon.
You’re great 😊
You need to watch The Concert in full. That ending scene is spectacular, the rest of the concerto sounds completely diffrent just after the opening. The guy playing Paganini is actually a famous Romani Gypsy music player, part of a famous band called Taraf de Haidouks
Ray 你真的太帥太可愛了 每次看你的視頻我都感覺我好愛你 怎麼有人可以這麼完美
I would love to see Ray review the Chinese movie “Together” 😊
9:52 Is the supposed editor of that video, who is sliding in from the left, actually Taran Van Hemert @TaranVH from LMG?
I was waiting for "Red Violin"
THE RETURN OF HANK CHANG
Ray, i play three instruments and I'm in middle school but I cannot play trumpet on tonic. why are their limited instruments? I'm just curious. love your vids by the way!
As a Ling Ling wannabe/TwoSet fan/Ray Boi fan, one word describes this - iNTreSTing!
that's Gheorghe Anghel from Taraf de Haïdouks
he's great!
“Rank” duo is the best!😂
I was wondering if he was going to bring up Song of Names. Because I already knew he was in it.
The moment when the violin bow became the fencing sword😂😂😂🎉
I think we would love to see that you actually roasted them. You are too nice 🙂.
Ray-ting system 🤣
9:28 this guy is super legit. Anghel Gheorghe, known from Taraf de Haidouks. Excellent musicians from Romania 🙃
Hank❤❤❤
first found Ray through his work on Arcane, and if it's anything to go by, he's the most qualified person EVER for this job
Noooo you stopped right before they started swordfighting with the bows, and after the speech about how expensive they are as well! 😭
2:35 is gold 😂
Even though my bow is really cheap, I cringed!
interesting because the clip from le concert that twoset reviewed seemed fine in terms of syncing... maybe it was your editor?
Ray please review Brett's Mendelssohn! Please!!
Cam you do a video explaining roman kim techniques?
Here is a challenge for Ray: the movie "Un Couer en Hiver", a French movie from 1992. Beautiful soundtrack with music by Ravel!
Hey Ray, huge fan of yours from the UK here. Long story short to save your time: what's your favourite VIOLIN rendition of Bach's Chaconne in D (apart of yours😊)? Thank you so much. R.
Now do “Humoresque” from 1946, and Stewart Granger in “The Magic Bow”; but you must not only critique his violin chops, but also his sword fighting acumen.
I heard "I'm Violin's Ray Chen" and i gotta say it has a nice ring to it 😆
You should do one of these with twoset and get the trio back together
9:25 That’s Gheorghe Anghel Caliu, a Romanian violinist of rromani ethnicity from the lăutari group “Taraf de Haidouks” ;) He did not study music theory _*at all_*(and doesn’t even know how to sight read)and plays all of his pieces by ear. The “definitely not Ravel” music is in fact a traditional rromani piece played at Romanian weddings. Kind of a fun fact, Caliu did not practice the Paganini piece before filming, he hadn’t played it before in his life; instead he listened to it 20 minutes before filming and was then able to play it, so mad respect to this guy. For context, the whole plot of the movie revolves around the life of a conductor for the Bolshoi orchestra in the communist period . He hired Jewish and rromani musicians during ww2 I believe and was fired for this. Now the conductor works as a lowly janitor but is given the opportunity to reunite his orchestra and perform in Paris. The character played by Caliu is a rroma man who did not receive any formal education and experiences hardships and discrimination from the classical musical society, thus mirroring Caliu’s own experiences with racism and elitism in the industry. If you want to find more about traditional Romanian/Rromani music you should check Taraf de Haidouks out, it’s definitely an acquired taste but this type of music truly reflects the dying culture of the lăutari 💞
Chloe Moretz in If I Stay was pretty good in my opinion
14:22 twoset said that ray. 😅
I didn’t know Brett was here 16:22 😂
If I remember correctly in the The Devil's Violinist, the concert master was in awe because that was his violin that Paganini took from him in an earlier scene. Afterwards he told him he doesn't even want it back because he could never make it sound like that. I'd have to watch it again to be sure though.
I wish you had reviewed the new movie about Joseph Boulogne called Chevalier.
The earliest spotlight used is called the limelight in 1879
LMAO waiting for ray's hardcore roasts from the soul
I watched the Devil's Violinist before and it was good in terms of playing, but the acting and the plot was really meh. This scene is about the only exciting one in the whole movie 😂
Anyway loved your reviews! And I'm now very curious about this movie you recorded for. Maybe a movie director should hire you not just for recording but to star in the movie itself one day x)