Jim Cornette on Bret Hart's Opinion Of Goldberg
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- From Episode 223 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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For context: Bret Hart had that career-ending injury at 42. AJ Styles is 44 right now.
Isn’t ron killings like 47
And AJ Styles is looking at when he wants to end. If the pandemic didn't happen, he could have possibly retired when his contract expired.
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 Ron Killings is 50.
HBK and Undertaker had the classic match at WM24 when they were both 44 years old.
@@ricosalvaje5802 HBK and Taker wrestled at WrestleMania 25 and WrestleMania 26, not 24. Michaels wrestled Ric Flair and Taker wrestled Edge for the World Title at WrestleMania 24.
Dam Batista catching strays lol
He set himself up by saying he learned nothing at OVW. Considering that everyone else around him basically carried the business into a new high... either he's right and they didn't teach him or he just sucks and doesn't know how to learn. The answer is obvious.
If everyone in the class of 20 students got A's and you have a F. You suck and your teacher is great. Learn to learn.
Deservedly so. He's in my top 10 list of terrible workers who had success
@@soulofanerd9364 It's infuriating to have to put up with him being pushed in Hollywood the same way he was in WWE.
@vanyadolly I actually like his work in film so far. It's nothing special but he's been solid in the Marvel movies and Glass Onion...I still gotta check out the movie where he's in a religious cult family but he was just alright in Dune. So in a way his movie career is mirroring his wrestling career as far as how "good" he actually is 🤷🏽♂️
@soulofanerd9364 that cult movie was his best work so far. He surprised me for sure
It's easy. As I understood, Bret rates wrestlers in three categories. In-ring ability, look and promo. If you hurt your opponents you basically fail at your job as a wrestler or at the very least at the in-ring part.
Rule one: Protect your partner. Even if it means standing around like an idiot while they balance themselves on the top rope to catch them.
Yup seems the one who asked the question either did not really read the book and got it from a bad article or he misunderstood the book.
Exactly. Imagine having to protect a prick like Shawn Michaels every night even if you hated him!
He will change his stance though if force him to answer to, "so...owen broke Austin's neck..."
@@Amzingred No, he won't. That was clearly an accident. Big Bill has a history of doing things like that.
This guy answered his own question by opening with Goldberg literally beat people up.
That's like when commentators try to sell Brock Lesnar as "dangerous" :)
Brock was a legit fighter he won the heavyweight UFC title. @@aodhablackheart
@@aodhablackheart Brock is a legit fighter are you dumb?
@@aodhablackheartBrock is dangerous though?… inside or out of the ring that dude is a super human. Are you just saying that because other wrestlers say he’s a pro? Or are you tryin to insinuate he’s soft or something?
@@SavageHanmaI meant dangerous in a way that's not good. Clumsy and injures people. Dangerous in a "bad for the business" kind of way.
Bret hart is mostly correct about wrestling
I'm reminded of the boys on OSW when they said "the worst thing you can be as a wrestler is unsafe"
@@judyhopps9380 Like Owen Hart.
No he’s not because he’s really bitter
ya i have to agree, hes way to real about wrestling in general, its life to him
@@johnnyboy7611 he's a pro. Fair play to him!
In WCW, I never saw anyone get over faster than Goldberg and I never saw anyone get a bigger push. I guess WWE had the Warrior. WCW was famous for killing the golden goose.
That goose wasn’t killed fast enough imo…and I can only hope he keeps coming back to get his karma at the hands or feet of some green overly pushed pos lol
2002 rookie Brock Lesnar got the biggest push ever beating Hogan, Rock, Flair (Austin would've lost but he quit the company) , RVD, and Undertaker that year.
@@tobiasfarragut292 you mean like The Undertaker? He's the only guy I can think that's hurt Goldberg in a match
@@fmthebaron Thats true, but Flair and RVD were mid card guys at the time
@@persistentlypathetic6820 no b/c we still see his sorry ass whether in Saudi Arabia or the mainland…I mean to brets level where u dont see him work anymore
I love Bret Hart's brutal honesty.
Original CM Punk
Its more bitterness than honesty most of the time
bill talked abth-cam.com/video/BfEj_6O69wUo/w-d-xo.htmlut he injured scott. this shows how dangerous bill is. but it also show he cool guy
@@ccreds8545 th-cam.com/video/aHS9Bn_viq4/w-d-xo.html
@@ccreds8545 no...straight honesty.
I’m still heartbroken that he ended Bret’s career. Bret was always my favorite wrestler, even WCW Bret.
Ruined his life, really. Losing his contract led to the mid life crisis that caused Brett to buy the motorcycle, which caused his stroke during/after the crash.
Didn't he fall off a bicycle?
Wcw Bret was dreadful. You could tell he lost his passion for wresting. If Bret had stayed in the wwf past 1997 we would have got a kurt angle vs Bret Hart match,which would have Been off the wall!!😊😊
@@amg4150 if only he stayed in WWF. Imagine though if he was there Owen Hart wouldn't have done the blue blazer gimmick , we could've have Guerrero vs Bret , Benoit vs Bret , Kurt vs Bret. Or an extended rivalry between stone cold vs Bret.
@@maosama3695 exactly or rock.austin,Bret.Hhh ,and .angle and Benoit for the title at mania!
To me, Goldberg is the definition of "an act" in wrestling. He was given a gimmick, could work that gimmick and have the standard, but limited, Goldberg match which when combined with a super push and the fact that he came along at exactly the right time got him super over for a short period of time.
Also sounds like the Ultimate Warrior.
@@EFunkRock ultimate warrior with a better attitude
@@EFunkRock He could wrestle better, but I've always made that comparison
Also sounds like Johnny B. Badd.
He's been over a lot longer than a short period of time - he's still over today because of his early booking & ability to work in that role.
I mean he's still getting booked in PPV matches today & its because (for at least some fan's) he's still getting pops & putting butts on seats.
His wrestling ability is still poor but he's still a draw for WWE because of how he was originally booked.
His full entrance with the security / police escort to the ring is still fire.
The thought of Corny talking to Sir Mix-a-Lot is hilarious
“Goldberg literally beat up people”. That’s not how it’s supposed to actually go. Hence, why Bret would give him a 0. He didn’t know how to do anything else. Even Hogan knew how to sell to set up the comeback, cut a promo, build a story-line, understood timing. Goldberg couldn’t do any of that.
goldberg was over that’s all that matters. nobody cares abt in ring ability when it’s a fake sport. if ur not over with the crowd ur nothing
@@ucey-mi2wr That's True!!
Bill Goldberg didn't wanna learn more to get better.. He was white hot during that time! I was there to witness it.. He was hot as Stone Cold Steve Austin..
@@ucey-mi2wr By the time Nash ended the streak, Goldberg was stale, getting booed and there were Goldberg sucks chants.
You don’t think Goldberg was good at selling? When given the opportunity he seemed to be really talented at it. Remember the program vs HHH at Survivor Series he sold his leg for like 3 shows, the match and the post match.
He's definitely right about Warrior in
1989. That's all my 9 year old self cared about. Demolition was over as f*ck, too.
As a kid I owned 1989 Summerslam VHS and I watched it almost everyday just for the Warrior vs Rude IC championship match. The Warrior was all I cared about back then too. lol
What about powers of pain
@@JokerThaToker Same here. My 9 year old self had many classic matches with the Warrior’s wrestling buddy 😂
@@l4dengun186 So many matches with my Warrior wrestling buddy.
The main event sold me on Summerslam 89. But the Warrior/Rude, and Brain busters, Hart Foundation matches were also excellent reasons to get the PPV.
Now, that Hulkamaniacs/million dollar team match at Survivor Series 89...what was that all about?
The more time goes on the more people realize how right Bret was and has been for the last 25 years
He's a bitter POS
@@newking70 Take out the word butter and you have accurately describes Billo
Bill
after seeing Goldberg nearly drop Undertaker on his neck is when I realized Bret Hart was right
So Jim and Sir Mix a Lot had phone call conversation at one point in our lives! Who knew?! lol
I certainly wouldn't have guessed that.
That Millie Vanille comparison was brilliant from Jim.
Yeah except the music business doesn’t bring them back every couple of years and give them Grammys
Did 1 not commit suicide over it?
The problem with Goldberg he was super green trying to do MMA, martial arts stlye stuff that he couldn't do. Like Dusty said don't do shit you don't know how to do.
Indeed.
True it was sloppy but even attempting it was part of his draw. He was a vicious monster that could also do strange takedowns or submissions. Like his backflip over a leg sweep, its trying to add skilled athleticism to his raw power. Brock Lesnar was a lot better at it having the skillset already
My teenage self was definitely a Goldberg mark for a bit.. until he beat Raven for the US title. After that, I was pretty much off the train. Don’t think I’d give him a 0/10 like Brett, but pretty close, and I can definitely understand why he’s bitter about it 😬
I totally didn't get into him. He was the second coming of the Ultimate Warrior without the face paint and batshit crazy promos.
I'd give him a negative 10-- He TOOK Bret from us.
@TheJoeGreenethe Saudimania match vs the Undertaker did that.
I didn't like that shit of him beating raven for the us title either bro.....the flock was my shit...
One thing I can say, for some reason Goldberg and Brock both left WWE for a while and came back and became the most paid per appearance wrestlers. They didn’t have the longest career but it helped them keep their mystic, enjoy life a while and keep their bodies in amazing shape! So maybe that works leave the business a bit.
It's still real to u, dammit.
Yeah But Jericho said that the Brock lesnar mystic was gone when he left for the NFL and came back it was not the same as when he first came in I remember that when Lesnar first came on the seen it was crazy he was way over after he and Rock in Summer Slam that was a great match. I remember watching that I was cheering for Rock and then Lesnar like the crowd was it was amazig. When he came back from the NFL it was different he lost a lot of mystic Vince has been trying to recapture that ever since. Even today lesnar is not like back in the day lesnar he comes and goes I really don't see anything different.
@@bernardwilliams4071 correct but I’m saying in value wise. Goldberg and Brock have huge pay per appearance deals. But you are correct their mystic isn’t as over like before BUT THEY’RE OVER
very good points
@@soitsanightmare hell yeah 😂
This is how I define Goldberg. He was build as a old western freight train inside WCW. He would show up and in 2 minutes he was off to the next destination. Much like a train he's unable to change where his tracks are going and can only move at one speed once he builds up speed. He bowls through anyone that gets in his way, and is more of a display of raw power, rather than adaptability. He was the Gordon of the trainyard (points to anyone that gets that reference). Anyone that ignores how powerful he was would get injured or worse.
Whereas... someone like.... Samoa Joe for example, since he has a similar undefeated streak in TNA, Joe was built like a Jeep Wrangler. Not the prettiest of vehicles, but is able to adapt to any weather or road condition and make the best of it. Capable of bringing multiple passengers to their destination without too much trouble, and can be used at a multitude of speeds.
Goldberg had his time, he served a purpose, he was bigger than the rest of the yard, but because of changing track conditions, he was unable to sustain his usefulness once newer smaller... faster... models came out, but every now and then his conductor takes him out for a run and people end up getting hurt. Onlookers marvel at his presence, but his usefulness is long gone.
Well my friend, Touché
Fuck trains.
If only Goldberg’s theme was the Thomas Tank Engine theme
That was shit.
That’s a really good analogy.
Goldberg had a look and nothing else. Bret's completely justified.
bret hart boring ,
As a package of course Goldberg isn’t a zero. But as far as in-ring, I can’t disagree with Bret.
Sir Mix A Lot's two hits was "Baby Got Back", and, "Jump On It"..
Jump On It came out around 95 or 96 though
I was into Hogan and Zeus way more.. Zeus was the ultimate heel!!!
Yes, Hulk Hogan, give him his due, didn't recklessly injure people like Goldberg did
As kid I even knew them matches and fueds were a waste
Zeus worked Summerslam, survivor series and a tag team cage match in December
Zeus did a lot for African Americans in the 90s. Was very rare to see someone like us in a main event spot in WWF…let alone with a megastar like Hogan. He might not be great at wrestling, but the image was worth a million.
Yeah brain is bugging, that Hogan - Savage/Zeus program was red hot in 89, it did great business.
@@bdot187umdidn’t move the needle where I am from when it was on….
@@patrickkirkham go back and check the numbers brah, you don't have to like it to acknowledge the business it did.
When Zues no sold the chair shot from hogan, young me lost my shit
Forget about Hogan and Zeus. What was Rick Martel and Rick Rude like in real life.
Brian is wrong about Zeus. I was 10 years old. And was pumped up as hell for that main event. The way they built Zeus up . I wanted to see what they could do to him to beat him. Brian doesn't know what he's talking about.
Facts
I keep asking Simon Miller to do an ups & downs on that and still hope he does it someday
Indeed.
I love that Cornette just compared Goldberg to Milli Vanilli
My fondest memory of no-holds-barred is Stan Hansen talking about that guy's teeny wanker
Corny. Is an encyclopedia. Of wrestling. Pure entertainment
Goldberg is the vin diesel of wrestling. He fits 1 role and only 1 role. He was hot fire when he 1st came out and over time was exposed. Now he gets by on nostalgia from the good days. Yes i mean the fnf series.
beautifully put
Vin "family" diesel
saying this is disrespectful to vin diesel tbh.
You could say the same about lots of wrestlers and actors though.
Also Vin didn't think the fnf was going to turn into a franchise. He went with xxx, thinking he was going to be a "new" James bond character.
People who aren't old enough to remember have no idea how huge Goldberg was at one point, only Austin and Hogan were on par with him at his peak.
Goldberg was huge but he was never on the level of Hogan Austin or even Rock or Flair at his peak. I’m 40 and have watch wrestling ever since I was a kid.
@@TeamDreg I don’t know. For that short period of time, he was on par with those guys. He was ridiculously over. Jealousy and ego from other wrestlers ended his push.
@@TeamDreg he carried wcw in 98 he was par
@@TeamDreg I’m close to 40 and remember those guys. Goldberg was definitely on par with those guy. Obviously the Rock went on to trump all of them.
That match against Hogan might arguably be the peak of wcw in the nitro era.
It was same with push Warrior got leading up to his match with Hogan.
Hogan & Nash killed Goldberg Streak but the follow up was crap.
Kevin Nash stated that he would spent all those days dodging Goldberg as the person who screwed him over making suspenseful to finally have match with and lose to Goldberg. However I feel more likely reason was so Kevin claim undefeated streak like Goldberg and get himself over more.
Hogan wanted to end streak so not to be outdone maneuvering himself champion stopping Kevin push in the process.
I agree they eventually had to kill the streak at some point but it was backstage politics stopped dead in tracks from ever begin properly followed up in the first place.
Scott hall ruined the streak
DDP should have ended the streak at Halloween Havoc. He was the most over guy in WCW and would have been believable to beat him clean with a diamond cutter.
Goldberg's greatest contribution/legacy is inspiring Gillberg! I can hear the chants now "Giiillllbeeeerg Giiiiillllbeeerrg" with the sparklers 😂
thank you for being a part of my childhood and for sharing these conversations with us
12:09 That transition is a work of art!
I think the person who sent this question forgot that wrestling is supposed to be a work.
I could never imagine a phone convo between Corny and Sir Mix A Lot haha
Number one rule in the ring they don't hurt anyone. Don't forget 20 years later he learned.... he still almost put Undertaker in a wheelchair and the match wasn't embarrassment.
7:00 Again Last doesn't get it and he still lives in that wrestling echo chamber. No Holds Barred was a technical success 8 mil budget made 20 mil. The main stream audience liked it, that is what WWE has always been about. Movie storyline come to life, the kids loved it.
It was Kevin Nash that booked himself to beat Goldberg and kill the the streak. Nash wash the booker man at the time.
@TheJoeGreene you sure cause Nash always talks about how he booked himself to beat Goldberg and kill the streak. There is a shoot where he laughs about it.
No, Nash wasn't booker at that time. Nash wasn't booked until later. The shoot interview you talk about it Nash being sarcastic, saying "oh yeah, I'll book myself to best Goldberg and then do the finger poke of doom!"
Nash goes over Goldberg then loses to the finger poke of doom, which killed WCW
@@jasonkraatz9574 it didn't kill wcw, thats what the wwe propaganda machine told you.
The lead in to the Stephen P New ad is 😂😂😂😂😂
Goldberg is the wrestling embodiment of a top fuel dragster, great in short straight bursts, but he isn’t like Bret Hart, which Bret is more like a race car in the Le Mans 24 hours, fast and technical but can go a long distance.
He's obviously not a technical genius but I can appreciate him for what he was. It's undeniably impressive that he could pull off doing the Jackhammer on The Giant.
Yes, physically great, the look, and the muscles. But, was there even a good match that lead to that jackhammer? I remember; not so much! Just giving him a jackhammer out of no where. Impressive yet not.
@@gotrek44 his match with ddp was pretty good.
because of ddp@@danday9697
Corny has been dogging Giant Gonzalez/El Gigante a bunch, lately. 🤣
Bret is 100% correct to hate Goldberg. He ruined his wrestling career when it didn’t have to end. However when you look at it good or bad I’ve never seen a wrestler as big of a mark for himself like Bret Hart 😂
Pretty sure Goldberg is a bigger mark for himself than Bret is. At least Bret has the skill and portfolio to back it up. You look at a collection of Bret matches and argue he's the best in the world. You look at a collection of Goldberg matches and wonder how you can never get better after "100+" matches.
Hulk Hogan would love a word with you
I was a kid in 89 we were waiting for Hulk and Zeus we didn't care if people could wrestle we didn't know any better.
I remember catching the Goldberg vs. Hugh Morris match at someone's house. I didn't watch much WCW back then as I don't believe my family had the channel (TBS?) it was on. That and I was content with watching WWF every week.
Yet this squash match caught my attention. Maybe it resonated with me as it reminded me a lot of the Ultimate Warrior and how he was built up in his first few matches. Goldberg looked like a killer. The internet wasn't what it was today so I didn't get to follow the hype and things went as they did but for those rare times I watched WCW somewhere for the next year or so, Goldberg was who I remember and who I wanted to see. Got me hooked with that ont match.
Nitro was on TNT at the time I was at that event and was surprised in his debut he kicked out of the no laughing matter. Rewatching it recently I didnt remember it being like 5 moves. He definitely showed promise and was smart not to talk. Added some intrigue.
Someone ask corny a question on Lord Steven Regal as one of the greatest in 93-98 WCW, demons be damned.
I saw a shoot interview with Raven and he called Regal a cunt. It was for RF Video and Feinstein didn't even ask him why he feels like that.
He's a Modernaire, Regal stole Ravens drugs.
@Greg Bailey Yeah, I'm sure he'd admit it. I just wanna know exactly what he did to make Raven feel that way.
As low as Jim Cornette's opinion of the Ultimate Warrior is, the Ultimate Warrior never hurt anybody in-ring, and was not in any physical altercations outside of the ring.
This sketch of Goldberg looks like the sketch of Sullivan on the couch lol love the cartoon thumbnails!😁
The thumbnails are one of the main reasons why I subscribed to this channel.
3:56 Austin refused to make that mistake with Brock
I believe austin saw the writing on the wall in 2002, and was looking for an excuse to take his ball and go home, which he did twice in that year.
Jim should’ve asked Sir Mix A Lot to come to SMW & rap The Gangsta to the ring
Great idea, shame he didn't!
Goldberg had all the intangibles and almost no tangibles
WCW messed up having him job to Nash the way he did with the cattle prod and then the next night was the finger point of doom!!!
Goldberg was great. He was exactly what he needed to be.
Almost, look, size, presence. He should go in there and be a monster. Tiny problem, he was green, unprepared and so dangerous in the ring. He wasn't ready and that was wcw's fault.
@@retroshane8844 well for fucks sake, if he speared you he would break you in half..
1989 was all about Piper, Heenan and Monsoon on PrimeTime Wrestling building all the Heenan Family matches.
I never believed in Goldberg. And I WAS the target audience when he came out. I was about 13 or 14 years old.
But even at that age, there was this specific way I saw wrestlers. To me, there were guys that I didn’t consider wrestlers. And to me, I always saw Goldberg having a side hustle that happened to be wrestling.
But even at that age, you would think that I would go crazy about the whole “invincible and undefeated” thing. But I found it corny. Goldberg felt like one of those kids on the playground that when you play superheroes with, anytime you try to pull off an offensive move on him, he yells “force field!” And you can’t do anything to him.
I just always found it ironic that a one trick pony like Goldberg was actually the reason that the career of a real time shooter like Bret Hart ended. Life is full of jokes.
Do you remember the match between goldberg and Laparka....Goldberg speared him so hard and caused a ACL injury because Laparka messed up badly on a chair shot...he had a real metal folding chair...not a prop chair
And he smacked goldberg in the head with it...afterwards bill said laparka was lucky he didnt hurt him worse...Goldberg was mad af
Force field 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Colts Neck NJ!!! About 30 minutes north of my house! Old money type of neighborhood. lots of horse farms, hence the name and some very impressive mansions in that area.
Bret Hart might be the creator of the modern smark. He has more credibility and actual reasons to be upset than damn near anyone at least. If he ever got bored he could definitely have a successful podcast. Fans are negative and bitter as hell and Bret is as good at being that as he was being a top 10 all time wrestler.
He was a great technical wrestler but he wasn't even close to the most charismatic.
@@persistentlypathetic6820 Of course not. I didn't mention any about charisma.
A 2 minute match with a kick to the hands did not end his career. The decision to wrestle 9 more matches with people like Terry Funk, Kevin Nash, Chris Benoit, and one more match with Goldberg did it. Those matches destroyed him, and Goldberg's kick to his hands got the blame.
There are, as Jim says, many guys who were pushed as the mega stars due to their size and look... the veterans bounced off them, and you could "steal" a main event.
Goldberg still draws now, regardless of bad runs, you can still put him on a show and still get a reaction, with minimal build up. That puts him well above El Gigante, Zeus, The Angels, and even Ahmed Johnson. Goldberg has kept his heat, because while he only does three things, 8 times out of 10 he does them well (Undertaker was number 9)
He Picks Things up!
And He
SLAMS THEM DOWN!
I’m a little surprised someone hasn’t tried to sue Santa.
Last is such a hipster fan. Hogan and Zeus was a big deal for that ppv. I was 8 then and was super into it.
Agreed.
Demolition was my favorite tag team. After that, it was LOD and the rockers.
And now young bux are your favorite
@@nathantturnert1631 Who?
@@terrypowers7806 Good answer! I also wish I never knew who they were. Just stay not knowing them, you're best off.
Brian is mistaken....kids were still into Hogan in '89 and were interested in the Zeus storyline.
Nah bro…. That Zeus angle had a lot of people interested
What soured me on Goldberg was when he had his show on podcast one. Dude had like 50 something guests and out of all of those 3 wrestlers. Nascar Drivers, Rock Band Members, MMA guys, Sports personalities, etc. He is one of those people like Sable is. Get Famous, F wrestlers except when I can make some money. Already know he isn't legit tough, even back when he had animal strength thanks to Jericho being able to take him down rather easily when they got in their fight.
Brock is what Goldberg was supposed to be.
Wow, he gave Goldberg a zero. I would think he deserved at least a 1.
Like Montreal, Starrcade '99's aftermath was fault on both sides. Goldberg caused the initial injury, Bret then spent the rest of that night and the next three weeks giving himself as much head trauma as possible. Had he come off the road immediately, his career just might have been salvaged.
No. Like Montreal, starrcade 99 was 100% Bret’s fault. Bret caused the initial injury. Stop being a mark.
People always ignore that though
Bret by his own admission in his book said he felt like shit and was puking up for days afterwards
Hell he wrestled NINE more matches after that INCLUDING Goldberg again and a terry funk hardcore match where he took a load of still head shots
Yes goldberg botched that kick but bret carried on and on when he shouldn’t have
Today bret would be taken out of competition and benched until he’s medically cleared
Goldberg caused the initial injury bret and wcw compounded it and made it worse
I think it’s why bret is soooooo bitter towards Goldberg because he has to be because he knows deep down he himself has a lot of blame but can’t bring himself to admit it
@@peterlee6374 AND bret forgets to mention he slammed his own head into the floor applying the corner post figure 4 a couple minutes before the errant goldberg kick to the head. Bret never accepts any responsibility for anything that happened to him.
I’m glad that after 3 months, this comment only has 14 likes. How did you not know it was idiotic before you pressed the submit button?
@@willdallas53 no union in wrasslin....dont you know the promoters dont give a fuck about the workers? Piper talked about this shit a long time ago. so no, Bret wasn't at fault.
No holds barred was a classic. "What's that smell?...Dookieeee" lmfao. classic. And!!!! Da Hogan Vs Zeus match as a kid was bigger then life. I was so afraid for Hogan but to see him breakthrough ...That had me n my friends Pump up in front of out TV. Ya tripping .
Jim's WaWa reference was amazing for all those who have been to NJ or live In😂
Their club sandwich is to die for.
Well in South Jersey. It's Quick Check up where I'm from.
Colts Neck NJ, was where the NAVY Ammo Base was, where all the ships were kept out of the base and civilians, on a long pier out to the river entrance, that you had to wait back and forth for a shuttle bus for, in case the Ammo exploded. Wonderful memories one of your listeners calling in brought back.
Can we just take a moment and appreciate Jim Cornette in his Sir Mix-A-Lot outfit?
Nice revisionist memory Brian🤦🏿♂️I had no memory of rude warrior as a kid it was all about Hogan vs Zeus
I just watched that 2021 interview with Bret Hart a couple of days ago, where he discusses the Goldberg situation. Wild coincidence.
Probably the most seamless transition to the lawyer ad yet.
I watching old videos from World Class. Now I know where I heard Steven P. New's jingle before!
Bret Hart had a hole in the back of his neck and his doctor said the back of his head felt like "hamburger." You do NOT get those injuries from being kicked in the face. Goldberg gave Bret a concussion, but the sum of Bret's pre-existing injuries led to his doctor telling him his career was over. Bret, and the internet, just want to blame Goldberg. Goldberg was unsafe and was too green for the push he had, but he didn't end Bret's career. It seems like he likes to blame other people for his problems. Who knows how much longer Bret's career would have been if he had taken time off and healed. Hell, after that Goldberg match Bret wrestled NINE more times and had matches involving weapons.
Facts
When Goldberg made his return to WCW and bashed out the car window … that was the end.
Say what you will about Bret being, "bitter", and whatnot, but let's be real, he has has every reasons to feel that way about Goldberg🤷🏿♂️
Yeah he does. Though he said in his book that Goldberg was just a bit green and didn't blame him.
@@jonathancurran5366 Hmm, I see
That whole exchange between these two was so interesting. Jim explained what a casual fan cared about & from the beginning of Jim talking about Zeus you could hear Brian perk up because that was the time period he was super into WWF. His prospective was someone who was deeply entrenched into wrestling & he only cared about what the hardcore fans liked at the time. Warrior was the man to them at the time. Jim's point was casually Zeus was a much bigger draw with the casuals & Hogan was as well. It was so interesting hearing both sides of that viewpoint. Because Brian was clearly disgusted by the idea of Zeus & Hogan being the real draw for that period of time.
I think if Goldberg wasn't such a jerk about the whole thing Bret would be better about but he don't even seem like he cares he took Bret out of the game
Jerk? Where’d you hear that ? Goldberg has apologized numerous times over the now decades . People took one quote out of context , ran up to Bret at an airport and said …” what do you think about this bullshit we made up that Goldberg said.”. It wasn’t just a concussion that took Bret out, it also later was a motorcycle accident that gave him a stroke.
Having grown up with WWE after WCW's demise, I kept reading about how amazing Goldberg was so I went back to watch his matches and I was bored to tears! Wasn't surprised to know we was an unsafe stiff and botch machine. Not hating him, seems like a nice guy, but damn he was rough
Obviously that's not gonna hold up now after all we've seen
I love South Park style animation for this channel & the advertisement for Christmas about eating reindeer shit was absolutely hilarious😆. This is one of my favorite of these videos 😆!
Claiming that Goldberg was anywhere near a 0 is just Bret holding a grudge. Goldberg made everything he did look believable. EVERYONE bought into it. You can't get people to buy in to what you're doing if you can't do it competently. If you're judging Goldberg any lower than an 8 you're judging him on the wrong metrics. Literally no one cared whether or not Goldberg could do a hurricanrana or if he could out chain wrestling Dean Malenko.
well think it all depends on what you're judging him on, I mean there's no doubt that if anyone could make Goldberg work it was Goldberg who made what he did believable and he looked like he could kill you. now that said I can't fully blame Bret hart I mean yes accidents can happen in the wrestling world but when you are injuring people like Goldberg did a lot of the time then maybe you should work on being a little safer in the ring. just saying he's a guy who looked good in that ring but wasn't the safest of workers.
I love the punch line about the lawyer 🤣🤣🤣
Goldberg got a bad rep I think. He was thrown into the deep end of the pool with tons of people in his ear. I think if someone like Harley Race, Dory Funk Jr or Stu Hart got a hold of him in 1997 then we would be talking about him as one of the best ever because he had the tools and the talent
He never had the passion for that kind of training. No universe this happens
I do believe has he been able to connect with someone like a Brett Hart (someone who took the business seriously and wanted to see him develop) early in his career, I think he would turned into a decent wrestler
"if the reindeer shit in the front yard & your kids ate it..." Corny fucking gold !
Fans: Bret should move on. He's so bitter...
Jim Cornette: I'd be pissed as well if someone ended my career and cost me millions of dollars.
and stroke
Listen to the crowd for Hogan/Beefcake vs Savage/Zues and still try and tell me no one gave a fk🤦♂️🤦♂️
This guy saying saying they cared more about Rick rude and the Warrior and Demolition and they did Hogan and Zeus, he definitely didn't grow up where I was. We always cared about Hogan more in 89, everybody else was just a side card. I'm pretty sure that's why Hogan was always on last.
Bret is bitter about the whole thing. The truth of the matter is Bret wrestled 9 more matches after Goldberg(including a hardcore match against Terry Funk and multiple house shows vs Sid). Bret himself said multiple times that he doesn't blame Goldberg, until Goldberg returned to wrestling and Bret started blaming him.
Did Bret Hart know that WWE's ring is 20 by 20, but WCW's was a 16 by 16.
Batista shouldn’t be lumped in with Goldberg. He had a rough start but he worked hard at his craft to get better and by 2010 he was the best heel in the business and maybe the best since Mr McMahon in the Attitude Era. He’s also a brilliant actor by far better than the Rock, who’s just a movie star and plays himself.
Batista is one of if not the best World Heavyweight Champion in history.
@@unlimitedayoproduction2452 but he’s a better actor and his movies are better. From GOTG, Blade Runner, Dune, the guys a chameleon. Rock never takes any risks as an actor and his movies are very formulaic, lowest common denominator types.
Somebody needs to keep this guy on topic - where's Conrad