Jim Cornette Reviews A&E's Goldberg Biography
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2022
- From Episode 253 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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This kind of podcast is what Jim haters don't seem to be able to grasp. He doesn't just hate the new stuff because its new. He hates it because it doesn't work. He explains why it doesn't work. His knowledge is just that profound.
People who hate Jim are gay.
It really is. And this is coming from a fan who's favorite wrestler was the Ultimate Warrior (who we all kno Jim can't stand).
This man's knowledge is top notch. And not just in WWF/E but in MULTIPLE promotions. You can help but listen and soak up knowledge and facts!!!!!
I love when Jim gives us an historical deep dive on stuff like the WCW Powerplant. Absolute fountain of knowledge
The funny thing with the Powerplant is it's a good idea to drive off the looki-loos who can't take the tough lifestyle, but once you've done that after a week or two, it's time to transition to teaching folks how to work and draw money....not make sure they can complete the marine obstacle course in 45 seconds.
He’s more like a library.
This was a masterclass in compelling podcast content. Jim Cornette is outstanding.
Gospel Truth Bro
sure he is lol
Hell yeah
“It’s like going to school to be a doctor, and you’re spending time washing dishes” Cornette is hilarious 😂
Goldberg vs DDP was probably one of the best World Title matches of 1998.
Probably one of? No need for all the qualifiers, it was with certainty.
Must admit, Goldberg hoisting Paul Wight up for the Jackhammer was amazing too
Probably one of
@@seanbonella The Giant*
@@stacyhamilton2619same person
It's pretty crazy Brett hated Shawn Michaels but they could still be professional without hurting each other later on forgive him. Then goes to WCW & meets someone that looked up to him but hurts him unintentionally & can't. You can't blame him because wrestling was his life but it's just a crazy contrast in experiences.
I always roll my eyes whenever people rant about the Goldust blonde wig thing - it was something they did for literally 10 seconds of a throwaway backstage segment once. It had zero positive or negative impact on his career, but it's something smarks always bring up like his entire WWE creative was centered around constantly wearing a blonde wig, lol.
It was ridiculous but awesome because it gave us this Immense Thumbnail ……. 👀. 💀
What's most important is that Goldberg didn't act out of character. Goldust briefly put his wig on Goldberg's head. That was it.
It was definitely pointless. It’s Crazy that thats what so many ppl remember from his run in the wwe
It’s ironic, that you’re resorting to insults and being a pretentious smart ass, when it’s actually quite simple.
The frustration comes from the fact that Goldberg didn’t destroy golddust after he put the wig on him, like he would’ve done in WCW. It undermined his fucking character.
I don't care what anyone says Hogan vs. Goldberg on Nitro was GREAT! I watched it as a kid and freaked out after Goldberg won lol What a time.
No-one thinks it was a bad match, just not particularly smart to give it away for free on TV with only a one week build-up.
@@haroldhall1517 Agreed. It's honestly a bit much how fans think they can do every aspect of wrestling better than people paid to do so. I'm sure TV execs in a ratings war with WWF were doing what they had to for viewers. Also Hogan and Dennis Rodman vs DDP and Karl Malone was on PPV *edit the very next month* so maybe was schedule conflicts.
@@anbu2 the younger fans wanted a build for it, but they didn't really need a build for that match to be honest, fans who were 25 and up at the time Goldberg debuted wanted to see Goldberg versus Hogan from the very beginning, the older fans knew that as soon as Goldberg beat the barbarian as easily as he did, he was going to be a big star, we knew it would only be a matter of time before he squared off with Hogan
@@anbu2 Why not? It worked. People act like TV was was costing WCW money to make. That's the business model from the 1970s, were TV was a commercial for live events.
WCW's revenue was hand over fist from TV. Sponsors galore, fans paying for tickets to be on the show in the crowd, etc. It permanently changed the business model to this day, were TV generates the most money now
I've mentioned the figure 4 turnbuckke spot whenever the Goldberg vs Hart match comes up here, but it's also important to note that was not his last match he continued to wrestle matches the following week, Funk, Nash ect until he had to stop.I gained a little more sympathy for Bill after this dude got put in a spot he was not in the slightest bit prepared for. The entire world basically didn't deal with concussions properly back then.
The real madness is the companies not bothering to train the people they hire to beat each other up. They're a danger both to themselves and to others.
The 'wrestling ability isn't sexually transmitted' line came from AJ Lee I think. Pretty sure that was the same promo where she said 'you can walk around in your $4000 ridiculous heels but you will never be able to lace up my Chuck Taylors' as a sneaker lover myself I loved that.
I'd lace up her Chuck Taylor's. 😁
She said talent isn't sexually transmitted but Goldberg isnt the bella twins
@@alaooooy7 i know im saying people critize Goldberg but hes not as bad as the bellas aj said that in 2 different promos they sucked up to the right guy that talent isn't sexually transmitted because she was tired of it she was right because they sucked.
The moment Brian mentioned OVW and the Bella Twins, Jim was THIS close to losing it 🤣🤣🤣
Would be great to have Jim Cornette actually review the Bella Twins Biography …
He's already had to deal with another set of twins (the Shane Twins) stinking up the ring and they had been wrestling for 10 years prior to coming to OVW. Imagine how he would've dealt with the Bellas if they showed up there after getting signed.
He’s trying to work Corny into a shoot stroke
I know ppl shit on Goldberg. But he was the reason I watched wcw and I can’t think of another wrestler who got as over as he did in such a short time
Cuz he’s not a wrestler and he said that many times
Brock Lesnar
@@kennethmckinney6274 Lesnar wasn't anywhere as over in his first year. He was over but not Goldberg level. I'd say he got very over when WrestleMania XIX happened. He was already as star but wasn't Goldberg level until then. Lesnar wasn't the most popular guy in the company until 2003 while Goldberg was the star of the show almost out of the gate.
Goldberg got over way faster but Lesnar has had way more longevity.
@@kennethmckinney6274 lesnar throwing gowen down the stairs made my adopted mother turn the TV off.
@@aerodynamicsalamander lol
One of the things I remember most about Goldberg's push was how excited Heenan sounded. Heenan had started sounding like he couldn't give a shit but in comes Goldberg and boom, the announcing level went up.
Da Man!
Heenan knew damn well what greatness looks like, Goldberg's undefeated streak was fuckin awesome and he said that was what popped WCW's baloon when Nash ended it. Nitro was excellent back then, Goldberg's shit looked violent and realistic, power moves were probably the best ever seen in wrestling, the spear was over majorly and that jackhammer...wow.
I got emotional listening to Heenan call Goldberg beating Hogan. Amazing. He’s screaming ”do it! Do it!’ This is your whole career here! This place will explode when he gets him up!” Heenan was a genius.
DA MAN!!!
@@ArmandoOriz_ All I was looking for.
They need to do a documentary on gilberg 👋😎
You’re a Fool for this one Fella …… 😂💀
Spear->Jackhammer->Pin->Get Over. Being a wrestling fan during that initial Goldberg run was a lot of fun.
Goldberg was lame
@@squirellmaster1 False
@@john_blues I guess it would be for you if you like somebody who does the same three lame ass moves and gives the same lame ass expression in the same lame ass yell every single time he comes out.
I met Bill Goldberg at the old KMart near MSG, I bet Jim Cornette knows exactly where it was, in 1999. I waited on line for 2+ hours to get his autograph and picture
Worth it
@@markl5998 it definitely was. My biggest thought was why was there no WCW Nitro in NYC.
Brian's right. I want to hear Jim's review on the Bella Twins biography. You just know the biography is going to be a fluff piece, because there is NOTHING remarkable about these two as wrestlers and only got into the WWE because of their stepfather. They are probably two of the most undeserving individuals to ever be in the WWE and the fact that they're getting a biography before female wrestlers that actually gave a shite and took wrestling seriously is just disappointing.
The Bella Twins and especially Nikki really turned into serviceable wrestlers and great ambassadors for the pro wrestling in the mainstream media.
Nikki would literally go to indie women’s wrestling promotions and study for hours on end and you could see the improvements when she was pushed as the champion
Man WTF lmao. They were pretty faces who did moves. It's honestly not THAT deep. Everyone that makes it in wrestling doesn't have to grind their ass off in the indies. Sex sells. It's also a TV show about wrestling personalities, not PWI. Believe or not Bellas have bigger following than even Trish. You don't personally know "Johnny Ace" and you nor Brian Last is Corny or one of the boys. Even one of the greatest in ring wrestlers of all time in Danielson married one. Get a grip.
Why do these two even have a biography out to begin with?
@@sgt.sanders4903 Because they’re two of the most popular women’s wrestlers of all time w/ legitimate crossover success?
@@sgt.sanders4903 Because shills like the two guys above us will defend their mediocrity until the end of time even though there are WAY better female wrestlers out there than the Bella Twins.
Jim's idea of Sherri Martel would be a great episode! A coworker and I have been enjoying these A&E shows and both of us agreed that we can't bring ourselves to watch the Bellas' episode haha
i'll watch it and see how long i watch it before i stop! You just know its gonna be so full of bullshit and classic WWE propaganda to fit their agenda (in this case glorifying the bellas for their run)
She was over in all three top companies of that time: AWA, WWF, WCW
@@p.d.l7023 When Booker T dropped the N Bomb in that promo, Sherri is behind them and you can see it in her face being like, "WTF just happened?!" haha
People hate on Goldberg. Goldberg was a football player period. He failed in the NFL and Sting, lex, DDP got him into wrestling. He didn't know the business and wasn't a die hard wrestling fan. But Goldberg looked the part and he pulled it off. He got over with the fans and he got fire and he took off.
And never tried to improve in 25 years, garbage
He said many times he didn’t want to do it
Injury doesn't mean failure.
Jim Cornette watches Ridiculousness on MTV, I am quite shook
In ring, Goldberg reminds me of the Ultimate Warrior. He was very limited so his matches were short and full of energy.
Goldberg and Brock's Mania rematch was great too. Short matches aren't necessarily a bad thing and happen in real sports all the time.
Goldberg was so captivating during the majority of his WCW run. As a teenager, he had me so fired up every week! To the point where I would sometimes be jumping off the couch, filled with excitement, just because I saw Goldberg on WCW TV! What a time to be a wrestling fan! Not too many wrestlers could work fans into such a frenzy and a state of complete and utter hysteria!!! If anyone had ever watched, or if anyone has ever seen on TH-cam, the match he had with Raven in 98' on Monday Night Nitro, that pretty much says it all and puts the icing on the cake! Those fans that evening, OMG! That Pop! Never again will that be replicated!
The Hogan match in Atlanta was his peak sadly, it was all downhill after that
I was watching at home when he beat Raven... and that's when he became the Yankees to me... I stopped liking him, because I knew he was going to beat everyone, including the people I liked, including babyfaces. A wrestler can win too much, too often. Goldberg is the creator of the "bor-ing" chant we hear in wrestling now.
That streak was long overdue to be broken. It should have been broken by DDP
@@SmithCommaBenjamin Yep and there should have been a ferocious feud between DDP/Goldberg/Sting for wcw and Nash/Steiner/Hall for nwo, book em for some "Damn it we have to work together" elements in 6 mans , 4 mans against each other wcw vs nwo, and break it into monstrous feuds top down. There were SOO many angles because WcW had too much talent. Too much talent... Somehow WCW managed to put too many beers in the fridge. lol This would have been a good way I think to get a ridiculously competitive heavyweight division.
I cracked up hearing Hulk Hogan talking about how Goldberg going over was his idea. 😄
Goldberg has also said that. It was originally going to be a dark match.
@@sarahrogerb3282 11
“I laughed cuz I know Hulk Hogan makes things up and I need people to know that I have heard the same stories they have!!!!! I are an insider.”
It was
@@evilsWa fuck knows what youre on about
I’d pay to hear Jim review Steven Regal and Goldberg’s match. Six minutes of cat and mouse, where one guy knows he’s not the cat.
A&E really wanted a positive documentary but, they edited or cut a lot of what happened after Starcade 1998. Like his failed heel turn in 2000, the toxic work environment backstage in WCW, why he was written of tv before the acquisition of WCW, and his failed first run in WWE in 2003. It felt like they put bits and pieces of 1999 as well like Starrcade 1999 and the fans blaming him for what happened to Bret Hart.
I too wish that it showed more of what happened leading up to the end of WCW. It just jumped from the limo punching injury to his arrival in WWE.
Yes! They always leave out a bunch of stuff on these and it's sad I also noticed they left out his match with regal that exposed he couldn't really wrestle
Goldberg did a good job of making himself look bad/careless.
How was his 2003 WWE run "failed"?
@@aliciasimmons8473 Jeez did you guys think they were gonna do a special doc about wrestlers just to bury them? You guys trying to watch "The Self Destruction Of The Ultimate Warrior" for these or what?
But it's easy to forgive Goldberg for kicking Brett in the head when your not the one who took the kick and got hurt.
Grew up wearing a Goldberg shirt and writing his new undefeated streak record on the chalkboard every tuesday morning at school so was loving this inside look...really was dreading Jim tearing Bill apart so glad to see him actually show him some love here...
Awesome story about rocking the merch and keeping your class updated on his undefeated streak
But how much love does the WCW’s Ultimate Warrior really deserve?
Ironic your second name is Austin😂
I thought he would give him the Batista treatment of always calling him fragile & whiny ….
Jim usually goes pretty easy on Goldberg.
I didn’t watch it. I don’t plan to, especially after I heard Bischoff and ‘Berg somehow some fucking way blame Bret for the kick that concussed him because “he should’ve known Goldberg was green and a shitty wrestler so it’s his fault for getting injured” or some shit like that.
I was 7 when I saw Goldberg for the first time. He was the man. I had the VHS tape and everything.
Only one recording of Goldberg exists eh?
Goldberg is the beginning of the end of the golden age
Regal v Goldberg my favorite
@@AAAskeet YEAH who the hell is regal , jesus a jobber a comedy act
@@clintstewart5545 regal is my hero
Last makes no sense talking about Bret forgiving Shawn and Vince . They didn't physically hurt him.
"Where were you when 'x' was assassinated," etc.?
I'll never forget when Goldberg jackhammered Big Show (then _The Giant_ )
From that moment I felt this guys was a monster and I *believed* in him. I fell in love with the business more than I ever had previously.
I know the Brett Hart fanatics are going to shit on him but he said multiple times it was an accident and he has apologized for it multiple times. Not saying Bret should forgive him because he isn’t obligated to but still
Goldberg is careless and didn’t want to wrestle, it just worked out
hart is a bitter man that hasn't yet gotten the slightest idea that, Goldberg made a mistake. how many goddamn times can Goldberg say I'm sorry? it's just like, cmon get over it bret. Austin ; got piledrived by Owen , He was almost paralyzed; then he came back stronger than ever but yet you never heard stone cold complain and bitch and moan about what happened to him with Owen.
Bret has already moved on and doesn't hate Goldberg anymore. That is all that matters.
But still what?
WCW deserved to go under just based on how they handled Goldberg after they lucked into lightning in a bottle. What they could have done is given him kayfabe injuries, like missing a spear and hurting his shoulder on the post. Meanwhile giving him progressively challenging matches like Piper, Nash, Bret. The injuries keep adding up until Hogan sees his chance and beats him in the ring. Goldberg takes 6 weeks off to work on being a brawler who can actually go, comes back and works the ladder to Hogan again. His popularity could have been strung out for years and it just made no sense how they handled him.
I've always said that Goldberg's first WWE run should have been a heel version of the WCW streak.
Do the match with The Rock the same as they did it except that Goldberg does the unthinkable and squashed Rock. Do the show of respect at the end of the match between the two. Goldberg starts to leave the ring then stops and flattens Rock again. Goldberg comes out the next night on Raw with Eric Bishoff. Bishoff explains that after seeing Vince McMahon and the WWE bury WCW, he wasn't going to sit by let them do the same to Goldberg.
Then over the course of the year Goldberg run roughshod over everyone. He doesn't care about brands and shows up on both shows. He wins both the WWE and World championships. He's unstoppable. Goldberg's longest match to date will be against Brock Lesnar at the Royal Rumble. Goldberg squeaks out a win in a 10 minute match with a little help from Bishoff.
The following night on Raw Bishoff announces that Goldberg has decided to to take a nice long vacation... For the remainder of his contract which ends on the same day as Wrestlemania. Goldberg has already beaten everyone in the WWE and there isn't a man alive in the WWE who can beat Goldberg. Bishoff end by telling the fans to enjoy the first Wrestlemania without the champion on the card and leaves.
Vince McMahon address the situation the following week. He states that Goldberg WILL scheduled to defend his titles at Wrestlemania. Goldberg can choose not to show up but if he does it will go down as a forfeit loss ending his undefeated streak in the worst possible way. Bishoff confronts Vince and reminds Vince that Goldberg has a "no rematch clause" in his contract so that mean that the winner of the Rumble is out because Goldberg already beat him months ago. Vince promises to have a suitable Wrestlemania opponent lined up for Goldberg by the following week and orders Bishoff to make sure Goldberg is there so Vince can tell him face to face and if Goldberg doesn't show up he'll strip Goldberg of both titles.
The following week Vince calls Goldberg and Bishoff a pain in his ass. It cost Vince a lot of money to get the winner of the Royal Rumble to step aside and give up their main event spot at Wrestlemania. But he also needs to thanks Bishoff for giving him the perfect opponent for Goldberg. If there isn't a man alive who can beat Goldberg then maybe a Deadman can. At Wrestlemania it will be Goldberg defending both the WWE and World Heavyweight titles against the Undertaker! Goldberg's undefeated streak vs Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak! Taker hasn't been seen on TV for a few months. He went out with an "injury". Bur really it was to grow out his hair to revert back to the original Undertaker. Goldberg goes berserk and beats up Vince. The build the rest of the way would be Taker playing mind games with Goldberg without actually being seen on TV.
At Wrestlemania Taker wins after some botched interfere from Bishoff. Taker celebrates then leaves. Goldberg recovers. Bishoff berates Goldberg, blaming the loss on him when it was Bishoff's fault. Bishoff slaps Goldberg across the face. Goldberg destroys Bishoff and leaves a babyface.
Call me crazy but I think if Goldberg had had a run like that he would have probably been back in a WWE ring a lot sooner than 12 years.
It wasn't possible to book him that way bc the moment he entered wwe he just didn't care about wrestling and wanted to be a part timer. He got paid to do what he did and wanted to win matches but didn't care about long term booking
Nobody was ever going to buy Goldberg as a convincing heel after that failed attempt during the New Blood angle in WCW. Goldberg was more profitable and over as a face. It is what it is.
@@decepticonxhunter4850 You are overlooking the Bishoff factor. Bishoff was the guy who tried to put WWE out of business during the Monday night war. His heat with a WWE audience would be nuclear and don't forget, in this scenario the hug with Vince never occurs so his heat is completely intact. Bishoff would have been all the heel heat Goldberg needed.
The only thing I didn't like about that, was how pointless it made the royal rumble. Why not just have the undertaker come in at 30 and then win it?
@@phabiorules Lets start with some background to this Goldberg run idea. We're going to go all the way back to the ill-fated WCW invasion.
Bishoff is sitting at home and he's watching the Invasion unfold. He see that they brought in almost none of the main event WCW roster. The WCW guys are getting buried at every turn. They then water everything down by adding ECW into the mix and calling it the alliance and they add a bunch of WWE guys to fill out the alliance roster. Bishoff see the invasion as nothing more than Vince McMahon stroking his own ego, which it was.
Sometime after the invasion fiasco, Bishoff gets a call from Goldberg. WWE is recruiting Goldberg hard and he's not sure what to do. Goldberg is a complete novice when it comes to the business side of wrestling. He too saw what WWE did to WCW and doesn't want to end up the same way.
Bishoff becomes Goldberg's business manager and negotiates Goldberg's WWE contract. The contract is a package deal for Goldberg and Bishoff complete with full creative control and a "no rematch" clause. Bishoff wasn't going to give Vince any opportunity to screw over Goldberg. This would all be explained by Bishoff the night after Goldberg's first WWE match with the Rock. The clause would rear its ugly head from time to time throughout Goldberg's run.
As for Undertaker, the reason he didn't just come out and win the Rumble is to keeping what version of the Undertaker we were going to see a mystery. At that time Taker was doing the biker gimmick and had his hair cut off. He goes off tv for months with an "injury" so he can grow his hair back out because he's going to the dead man Undertaker for Wrestlemania but they don't want to give that away. They want to keep the fans guessing what Undertaker they will get a Wrestlemania. There's no way they would give it away at the Rumble. Besides that, having someone Goldberg had already beaten win the Rumble would create a whole lot more speculation about what the Wrestlemania main event would be. I would have probably had Lesnar come out and win the Rumble after he got screwed earlier in his match with Goldberg.
The whole point is that Bishoff wanted to ruin WWE and Wrestlemania. Goldberg had taken the both belts hostage and gone on vacation for the remainder of his contract leaving Wrestlemania to not have the champion on the card for the first time ever. Bishoff thought that there was nobody left in the company worth talking about that Goldberg hadn't already beaten. He had forgotten about the Undertaker because he hadn't been seen in months. He also thought that he had Goldberg fully under his control and wasn't happy when Goldberg's own ego got the best of him. Goldberg couldn't allow his streak to end with a forfeit loss. This is why Bishoff was pissed at Goldberg when he lost at Wrestlemania to Taker. Goldberg had ruined his grand plan.
Finally, the winner of the Rumble would still be important. As I said, it would have created controversy over the Wrestlemania main event. Lesnar wasn't going to lose his title shot, it just likely wouldn't have happened at Wrestlemania. Vince paid Lesnar to step aside at Wrestlemania, he didn't pay him to give up his title shot. There were three outcomes for Wrestlemania..
1. Goldberg no shows and forfeits the titles to Taker in which case Lesnar comes out for an impromptu Wrestlemania main event match for the title against Taker.
2. Goldberg shows up and loses to Taker. Then at the next ppv Lesnar challenges Taker for the title.
3. Goldberg shows up and beats Taker and walks out of the company as the champion. The build to the next ppv is a tournament where the winner faces Lesnar for the vacant titles. Lesnar wins with some controversy. Raw recognizes Lesnar as the champion but Smackdown doesn't and instead strip him of their title and awards it to the other guy and each brand has a champion once again.
I know this is a bit long winded but I hope it clarifies everything for you.
44:28 "He would've known how to refund Turner Broadcasting plane tickets" LMFAO iykyk
I was hoping Goldberg would give a shoutout to Bobby Eaton
I'd love to know if Jim Cornette ever saw Louis Theroux's Weird Weekends on Wrestling, which featured the Power Plant and 'Sarge' in the 90's. Great fun to watch.
Damn Louie gonna have another tik tok moment now haha
Did anyone catch that in the beginning jim said AEW rather than A&E
Re-enforced all of my thoughts about goldberg, wcw, etc. Wasn't as much his fault for the fuckups as much as the companies, they put him out there not ready, and he got the blame when he was just being put out there...by the company.
The funniest thing, how they praised Bill then buried him in an interval of no less than ten minutes.
DAMN.
Their slacking usually it takes cornette less then 2
I thought there would be a mention of that time William Regal was told to have a wrestling match with Goldberg . I'm guessing it's not in the documentary either
It's not 😂
@@only1icon1801 they also didn't show his match with ddp probably his best so there you go
Coincidentally this morning I watched the Goldberg vs Nash match for Scott Hall's contract and I remarked how bad of a actual wrestler Goldberg was.
Corny got one thing wrong here. When Goldberg and Hogan met at the Georgia Dome, Goldberg wasn't the world champion, Hogan was
AJ Lee, CM punks wife, is the one who said that talent is not sexually transmitted. So I doubt that they will feature that in line because they’re unlikely to want to give any kind of acknowledgment to punk people. But then again WWE has been a while in good standing with AJ Lee so we’ll see.
That didn't stop lethal from trying to transmit dome to her
They won't because it was a terrible line and even AJ would admit she went too far in saying that. Has ZERO to do with CM Punk. The only ones who think that line was great was people with the maturity level of a small child. Hell, they won't even feature Ronda Rousey's lines about John Cena's bedroom either. People need to get over themselves on that.
I really hope they can talk jim into watching the Bellas documentary. It would be comedy gold.
Aren’t they just sisters not actual twins ?
You and me both Fella 🙏🏿
@@ryanmussell739 They literally looked identical until one of them got a boobjob. So I do think they are actually twins.
I was a kid during the 80s superhero wrestling of the WWF and kept up with it all during the Monday night wars. I loved watching the technicians and others, but damn, the first couple times seeing Goldberg and wondering what the hell that was was a captivating event. Simple, raw power. Also, he had the perfect intro music, like the champion gladiator was coming out, standing in the sparks and fire and breathing out the smoke. He had no reason to speak, to make loud obnoxious promos. He simply was. Who's next. I met him some years ago at a meet and greet and you could tell he was happy to be there and so appreciative of his fans. I have had other meet and greets with other wrestlers and you could tell they couldn't wait to leave and have their brunch and could care less, but not Goldberg. Just an outstanding dude. Cheers.
I can't believe they're making one on the Bellas. That just...blows my mind.
First one I’m gonna skip
Now that one is just...... The Bellas haven't even done enough to deserve a Documentary.. and they wasn't that over..
Their even doing a rivalry one between Steph and brie, ffs man come on
Why? The have a large fanbase and will deliver a demo for A&E that the other ones will not. This isn't hard to figure out when you actually look at it from A&E's POV and what they are in the business of.
@@kenrickeason They have a fan base in the millions. They were plenty over.
One of the key things that got Goldberg SO over was that he was arguably the strongest, quick power move guy ever. You never thought he was going to botch something because he “wasn’t strong enough” he literally could standing jackhammer big show. He was like Brock in that way. You never think for a second Brock won’t be able to lift something.
But he botched every one of his 5 moves on a very regular basis
Agreed Bro
He damn near killed the undertaker with that move. Dropped him on his damn head. I never much cared for Goldberg. He couldn't wrestle.
Not back during his prime, yes the return hasn’t been great at all, has ruined a lot of his legacy.
@@shawnamyotte893 lol dude, he was botching and hurting guys left and right during his prime too. Some of us watched that shit every week and couldn't stand the character.
I remember seeing Louis Theroux at the Power Plant in one of his weird weekend documentaries and it just made wrestling look weird af frankly. Which it is, but still...
That trainer absolutely blew him up with those workouts lol
Shock horror a show called “weird weekends” had things that look weird
I saw that lol
Jim should watch the episode of Louis Theoruxs Weird Weekends from 1999 where he looks at why Wrestling is popular at the time and visits WCW during a live Nitro and also visits the power plant where he goes through training with Sarge
His money don't jiggle jiggle, it folds!
@@Captain_Insano_nomercy I've got a knack to relax. In my mind, I'm feeling fine
And I'm sipping some red, red wine
Riding in my fiat
After starcade 97 with the whole Hogan and Sting thing... Goldberg kept WCW on life support after that, that was only reason why I was still watching.
"THIS REMINDS PEOPLE THAT MODERN WRESTLING IS THE SHITS" AND "THE POWER PLANT WAS A SHITTY TRAINING SCHOOL" ARE HANDS DOWN THE BEST TRUTH OUT THERE.
Goldberg looks like Super Sayian Nappa.
Mae Young would be an awesome episode. From winning shoots against the girls in Mildred Burkes troupe as a teenager to getting destroyed by Dudleyz. Scamming men into going home w her then beating the shit out of them and taking their money. She is so fascinating.
If Austin was healthy enough for one more match, why waste it on Kevin Slowens?Austin Vs Goldberg would print money, even now.
who was gonna sell in that match lol
@@dwestazDrew, Fiend, Braun. I think you can Austin to that list and Bill will survive just fine. Ha.
Austin's moment was meant to be fun and turn us into kids again. Not be an actual who would win scenario. It's part of why the Goldberg vs Undertaker match was bad. You werent even getting the 2003 versions of them. Then again I'm sure you just made this comment to say Kevin Slowens tho lol.
@dwestaz I totally, absolutely, did not factor that in. Point to you.
Austin wanted owens. It wouldn’t have made money either. Wrestle mania is always sold out and apparently it’s on peacock in the USA. So there isn’t any money to be made. Tickets already sold, and it’s not ppv, and do you really wanna see 2 old men struggle to pretend they’re 30 not 60? I don’t. I wouldn’t have brought Austin back.
28:50 Jim has gotta have a watch-a-long of Russo vs Flair in the cage.
Goldberg did have some great matches, he could do a lot of good things as a heavyweight. I really liked this documentary.
His win over Hogan on Nitro is arguably one of the best championship wins in pro wrestling history. Easily the best one in WCW.
My personal fave was DDP winning the four corners match Spring Stampede ‘99, but Goldberg’s superb summer to winter with that awesome win and the defense against DDP had a lot to do with building up my anticipation.
Who's arguing?
Best win and best match ARE NOT the same.
Well said Fella 💯
Yesss! Goldberg’s return at SS 2016 is an underrated match
You must not know what that word means. It's not even an overlooked match. Hell, it's barely a match and more just a spectacle.
Cornett's knowledge and intelligence created an amazing podcast. Thanks for all the entertainment Jim and Bryan.
For me, Goldberg was intense, powerful, and strong, everything about him worked perfectly.
Yep to be that big, strong, and muscular while moving like a cat. True athlete and you could tell. It set him apart.
I'm surprised jim isn't more pissed off cuz the main thing you get from this is that he didn't have a passion for the business. He made that quote several times I think 🤔.
That’s what pisses me off
The crowd for Hogan v. Goldberg was legendary.
Can't believe it was on free TV. Horrific management by WCW.
Eric Bischoff has said repeatedly that for their contract, for their sponsors, for their TV contract with TNT, and for their ownership by Time Warner (pre-AOL merger). Putting the show at the Georgia Dome and the match on Nitro was more important to the network to make money than it would have been to put it on PPV. It may have made sense to a wrestling company to think about PPVs, but to a television company it was not a primary concern to them.
@@hartfoundationhq A media conglomerate running a wrestling company makes as much sense as Amazon running a hipster grocery chain.
WCW was always putting PPV Main Events on free TV on Nitro during The Monday Night Wars....Hogan vs Luger....Goldberg vs Sting...I'm pretty sure Goldberg hoisting up The Giant for the Jackhammer for the first time was given away for free also. ..but to your point giving away Hogan vs Goldberg for free was the biggest mistake
Remember, this is the same geniuses that allowed beach goers and bikers to come and watch Bash at the Beach 95 and the Road Wild PPVs for free.
Eventhough I am a advocate for forgiveness; from Brett's pov Shawn or Vince didn't end his career. Brett LOVES wrestling and LOVED being a wrestler so he views Goldberg as the man that took that away from him so its very hard for him to get past that.
All love, peace and forgiveness.
Dammit Cornette watch the Bella’s bio, as much as we love listening to the wholesome way you spoke about Goldberg and Taker we want to hear you RAGE!!! 😂 😂 😂
Who's seriously going to watch this? Even as a teenager, it was very apparent that Goldberg's first run was a push from the office because they did the exact same thing with The Ultimate Warrior. He has the personality of cardboard and his later runs suffered from diminishing returns.
Hate to break it to ya, but every push ever came from an office. Whether they work or not depends on the talent. For every Goldberg there are a 1000 Nightstalker's or Crush's or Warlord's or Nathan Jones' or....
@@maceomaceo11 Goldberg‘s gimmick was a steaming pile of 💩
Who's going to watch something featuring one of the most popular wrestlers in arguably most popular era in all of wrestling? Not a single soul. I'm sure the old folks who watch A&E are going to immediately change the channel when a big jacked ex football player is on their screen /s
@@squirellmaster1And it was over and drew a ton of cash and that’s literally all what matters
@@bradleyminoski2020 yeah, I guess there are plenty of people out there who like a steaming pile of 💩 and are willing to pay good money for it.
I remember the Goldberg fears Hitler signs from the 90's😂
Cornette is incredible. And the creative ways they insert their ads is hilarious. I basically hear half their ad before I realize it's an ad lol
Seems like the only guy that came over from the WCW buyout that has successfully remained in WWE to this day has been Rey Mysterio. And who saw that coming? Because at the time, he was kinda buried in the WCW talent roster, not someone anyone expected likely to succeed 20 years later, out of anyone else
Goldberg had 2 big moments in his wrestling career...honestly..The title win at the Georgia Dome!...THE HOME OF THE DOME!(yeah I'm from Atlanta)..and the debut on raw with Hollywood Rock..
I'd say his return match against Brock 20yrs later at his age was another good moment
I was there WM19 weekend. At WM and at Raw, whenever they showed anything with Goldberg people were booing. HHH gave the finger at the Titantron during a commercial break at Raw when they showed the graphic for Goldberg coming and it popped the crowd big time.
But holy shit, when he actually came out when no one was expecting it with the Rock out there, the place exploded.
Also as stated before, his complete squash of Brock when he came back was a holy shit moment.
He had a few more. When he lifted the big show straight up was so impressive. The crowd was going ape ah!t. Same with when he won the US title from raven. Destroying the flock single handedly. Then picking that 7 footer up.
All you goldberg haters sitting in your boxers in mom's basement waiting on your welfare check just shut it
A&E &/or WWE misspelled the title of Goldberg's movie. "Santa's Slay" is correct. Legends had it Santa's Sleigh.
I don't know if I heard it in this Goldberg documentary or in a shoot interview Bret Hart said Goldberg made Vader look like Shawn Michaels
Bret lost 4 prime years left when Goldberg gave him a concussion
Goldberg was literally his walk from the dressing room right until the pryo hit. That was it.
and it made piles of money.
And it was more over than 98% of the roster so hey whatever draws the money
How's your guys' obvious "Remember When Goldberg Was Over" YT Comment Section Affiliate Marketing startup going?
Ain’t no way am I watching 2 hours of Bellas. No way…Sherri Martel is more Dark side of the Ring material. How about Missy Hyatt?
Cornette is no Eric Cartman🤣
Corny never ceases, Goldberg was awesome back then and infinitely more watchable than a lot of what was on nitro back then. Who gave a shit if he was green and "couldn't work"? not millions of people anyway.
these are so great. always good for laughs
No one should apologize for getting an opportunity, especially if they make the most of it. But don't be so dismissive of folks that weren't as lucky.
Goldberg was the man from 96-98. After that, he and wcw were trash. Wwe Goldberg was a pure waste.
Um, Bill Goldberg didn't debut in WCW until fall 1997 against Hugh Morris. I remember watching that match.
@@indieauthorjasonblayne7511 i had it on tape. He got no entrance. Kicked out of No Laughing Matter, and said nothing to Okerlund
@@Smokey1419 I was just thinking about how he kicked out of that and walked away from Gene.
9/22/97. Same day as Austin stunning Vince at MSG. My 17th birthday.
I was at the Georgia Dome the night he one the title. I also seen the Road Warriors vs The Samoan Swat Team in the Omni. Same Pop
Who actually pulled the best match outta Goldberg?
Mine would be vs DDP at Halloween Havoc
Regal
I honestly thought the documentary would be much shorter... Spear Jack hammer done
I noticed how they didnt mention his match with regal and I hated how they tried to hold bret accountable for his career being ended yes you take a risk but dam come on and that kick dam should not of been done and with the figure 4 on the ring post he let bret fall backwards too
My favorite Goldberg match was the one where he speared him and hit him with a jackhammer! I’ll never forget that one.
I agree with Brian. It's strange that Bret Hart can't forgive Goldberg and still BURY him. But he'll forgive Shawn Michaels and Vince McMahon and be great with them.
Brett was friends with Michael's in the early/mid 90s. Shawn has become Christian in the since years and while I see Bret has never mentioned having faith, perhaps Bret sees that Shawn has turned his life around. Vince, idk.
I feel that Bret is more upset about the whole WCW experience and puts that above the Screwjob as injustices towards him. Shawn was objectively a better in-ring performer than Goldberg and wasn't dangerous to be in the ring, too.
But then again Goldberg is still going, and perhaps Brett is still bitter than that.
Because goldberg ended his career completely
Shawn and Vince caused Bret to lose money. Goldberg almost costed Bret his life
@@kraw3026But, it was Vince not keeping him causing him go to the circus and be in the ring with idiots, so it's partly Vince's fault , if Vince would have handled the situation better, Bret would still be on Raw, and he hasn't aged has bad has Shawn , so he would still probably be doing weekly matches and premium live events
Uhhhh…. Because Goldberg was a big buffoon who would injured many wrestlers
Uhh "No one had ever gotten a push like this before."
Uhhh just a few years prior was the almighty Dingo Warrior himself Ultimate Warrior on national television.
I remember The State Patrol. I think that they were in at least one of the Crockett Cup tournaments.
That seemed to be how WCW turned a lot of their jobbers into stars back in the early 90s--put them in a tag team with another jobber and give them a gimmick. Hence, we had the Ding Dongs, the Dynamic Dudes, The Patriots (Firebreaker Chip and Todd Champion), the Destruction Crew (Mike Enos and Wayne Bloom)--even the Steiners--remember, Scott came in as a scrub until they teamed up with his brother, Rick--and pushed him to the moon!
You should have referred to Goldberg like Brett used to: Bill Go-berg. Idk if it was a Canadian accent thing but I always crack up hearing Brett say "Go-Berg" in old promos
Lol the State Patrol!
I watched a video the other day where they actually won a match believe it or not. Their finisher was a vertical suplex / clothesline from from the middle rope combination. (Almost like the Hart Attack).
They beat a couple other ham and eggers lol
Haha, I just saw them for the first time the other day and the one guy's name made me go "WTF?" too. You need a gimmick name and the first place you go is the guy that shot MLK?
"You got some real weird holidays!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
WOW
Thank you Jim. I would've never remembered the State Patrol tag team ever again in my life had you not reminded me🤣🤣
Wow that takes me back to my single digit years lol
Man... This might be the best description cornette has done. This was amazing lol
BTW the Bret Hart thing, look at that kick, Goldberg didn't furiously through that kick. He put his foot up and ran right into his kick. It's one of those "shit happens" situations but to continously talk about it like he's angry at him is simply bitterness. And again, I like Bret but that gets really ridiculous
Bret is bitter about a lot of things for one. But I think his beef with Goldberg historically was not that Goldberg intentionally hurt him but rather that Goldberg was never trained to be safe and he gets upset about that aspect. And when you consider the ramifications that happened to Bret as a result you can kinda understand why he’d be upset over it. It’s just silly to harbor the Ill will for such a long time.
I am sorry, but i have to mention this as often as possible. Grew up a WCW kid and my dad was Goldberg's bodyguard at signings in '97. I was the man at a mall in some town when i was 9. Great guy from all my interactions.
Him ending Bret's career I'm sure is where most of this hate comes from. These same old fuddy duddies used to wanna be cool like the wrestlers. Now they want to be Meltzer or pretend they're a booker and agent telling stories with Cornette.
@@davyjones2032 well, looking back its easy to see goldberg was green. But still very over. After reading bret's book i honestly don't think its fair to point out the one kick as ending his career. He is in a poor physical state coming in to wcw. I don't give a fuck about meltzer but i like some aew more then wwe but that aint sayin much.
@@nickfitzgerald7242 of course. He was terrible in the ring. People still try and shit on people like Goldberg or even Nash based off what they feel now after listening to shoot interviews, etc. It's like I realize NOW the Kid Rock and Limp Bizkit aren't considered rock icons probably but not going to deny their popularity then or pretend I wasn't singing along lol.
“He could do a hell of a jackhammer on a 500 pound man” 🤣
I was a huge Goldberg mark back in the day but as an adult I realize the reason I was a mark was because his moves looked so real and vicious but they looked so real because they freaking were.
I popped every time he folded a guy up like a chair with that spear and the jackhammer looked like it would put guys deep in the Earth's crust because HE DID.
Now I and every other Goldberg mark has to deal with the fact we were cheering for guys getting injured.
Yeah it was irresponsible how they gave Goldberg minimal training and unleashed him on the roster
I remember Goldberg was in a battle royal or World War 3 and the Schivonne kept adding wins to the streak with every wrestler Goldberger eliminated.
Damn, no mention of the feud he had with Sid Vicious? I still remember that as being one of the standout feuds he had during his WCW tenure.
I'm going to push back here on Jim. I think he really over exaggerates how much Goldberg adds to modern WWE programing. The guy shows up a few times this decade and either kills someone in 8 minutes or counts the lights for a champ. WWE shoot themselves in the foot by only booking one guy (Roman) to be able to beat legends and everyone else takes turns beating each other.
I'm no where near a wrestling historian but even I know Andre The Giant had an undefeated streak, Oldberg.
If it wasn't for that one loss at Wrestlemania 5. Ultimate Warrior had close to an undefeated streak also. I don't remember him losing any other matches on his way to the championship .
That wasn't really an undefeated streak as Hogan had beaten Andre several times prior to WWF. WWF was lying when they said Andre had never been defeated, because ANdre had in fact lost multiple times by that point.
Indeed.
And you would be wrong. Andre lost a few matches. He lost to the sheik in the 70s and one in Iraq I believe
@@danday9697 He lost to Hogan multiple times before both went to WWF.
Lol Brian trying to trigger Jim on what they can show in the Bella doc.