Jim Cornette on Bret Hart's Influence On Modern Wrestling
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- From Episode 223 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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"When something is different, it gets over, but unfortunately, when something gets over then, everybody tries to copy it and what got over about it is no longer different."
-Jim Cornette, 2021
It's as true in professional wrestling as it is in music and probably movies, too.
Indeed.
Yep
In entertainment
Hell it's true about just about everything. But it's well put as always by Jim. And people wonder why people listen and watch what he says.
Truer words have never been spoken
"I think I had a really hard-working and authentic wrestling style, so people liked the way I was - that I was a 'no-quit' kind of wrestler - and I was very realistic and credible in my style." - Bret Hart
Had to love Bret for it....
It's weird how things wind up....I think Bret has been so maligned for his over-seriousness and tooting his own horn a bit too much(obviously by people that dislike him) that I think he's starting to get underrated for his in ring work. I recently rewatched his championship match against Diesel at Survivor Series 95 and he's one of the only smaller guys that I ever really BELIEVED could take it to a bigger stronger guy and dominate him through tactics and aggression and make it look utterly real.
I agree before I understood n appreciated the technical side of wrestling I loved bret cos he felt kick ass in ring, cool as far as his entrance etc, great move set, he was like Michael's made you feel for him when he was taking a beating
I'm curious tho, anyone know why body guys got over so much in the 80s?
@@JohnTheBaptist87 Bigger guys have always had an easier time getting over because them being big strong tough and able to beat anyone is just more visibly believable but it was also just part of the culture. Think of 80s action movies and how jacked the heroes of the era were, the wrestlers that matched those bodies and to some extent the gravitas of the Stallone's, the Schwarzenegger's and the like were easier to get over. Plus that's who Vince pushed like mad lol
I still to this day can't explain why I was such a huge Bret fan as a kid. He was literally the only wrestler I cared about. Hogan, Taker, Flair. I didn't care about any of those guys. Bret was the man. The only guy that made wearing pink look cool. On the rare occasions he lost a match, my heart sunk into my stomach. Like when he lost to Shawn at mania
Same here, enjoyed the match all the way up till the end. Guts me every time.
Omg!!! I hated Shawn Michaels growing up the iron man match tore me up as a young tike I cried when Bret lost to Shawn. Still til this day I can’t watch that match back and I’m a grown ass man. 🤦🏽♂️ 😂
I was born in 95, wasn't even old enough to see him wrestle. But when I went to buy figures as a young kid or play one of the console games I liked him immediately just because he looked cool and had a nice entrance and song, wasn't till I was older I realised he was also incredible in the ring
Watching Bret Hart hooked me on wrestling as a 10 year old. His matches were realistic, always had something different, and he brought out the best in his opponents. Don't know why Hogan was afraid to work with Bret, Bret was an in ring professional that could've made Hogan look amazing regardless of who wins. A dream match we never got even though both were in WCW in the late 90s was Bret Hart vs Bobby Eaton.
Didn't care about The Undertaker?
It always pisses me off when I see Marks claim Hogan was inept in the ring.
Same here.
He was able to be a cartoon and boring all at the same time
@@timyumichuck9262 the same could be said about cats like cena,warrior and others but that doesn't discredit who they were and what they accomplished, just cause your a hater don't mean shit at the end of the day.
Hogan could punch, scoop slam and leg drop...couldn't even do a suplex in most of his matches..he sucks as a wrestler.. good entertainer
@@mkultra5752 he could literally do all those things
I think more of today’s wrestlers wanna be HBK rather than Bret all of AEW are HBK Influenced Bret matches always made fucking sense and had psychology
“If Hogan was the Elvis of professional wrestling, I was the Robert De Niro” - Bret
He shouldn’t put himself down like that
Bret was great because he could get himself and the other guy over like crazy. He helped Stone Cold get over by acting slightly heelish in promos and sold like crazy in the ring.
People might disagree with me here, but people don’t try to wrestle like Bret or Hogan, but instead Michaels.
John cena is basically a modern day Hogan and he ruled wwe for 15 years
Exactly.
Brett Hart = 🐐
He was no LA Parka
I laughed my ass off when DDP was...
Shawn Michaels had a greater influence on this generations wrestlers. They try to wrestle like him (and fail), not like Bret. It's pretty clear they've adopted his style and some even went to his academies (Bryan Danielson). Because of personal bias, Cornette doesn't like to give HBK this obvious credit lol
As a hild in the 80's that grew up seeing various promotions I was sucked in by the sights of the big guys. Loved Hawk & Animal, I thought the Ultimate Warrior looked great, but like Bret has said in various interviews that I may have tuned in to see those type of guys, but I remember the matches of the likes of Bret, Dynamite Kid, Randy Savage, Ric Flair, Curt Hennig, Nick Bockwinkle a hell of a lot more.
I know we would all have enjoyed Bret v Kurt Angle, or Bret v Eddie, but I swear, I would have loved Bret v Brock, because Bret is the believable "smaller" guy and really could have put Brock to the sword the way no one else beyond guys like Kurt and Benoit could. Bret just could work with anyone and make them look a million dollars.
I also would love to see that. Just to see how good Bret would make brock look.
Been a dream match for me since Brock debuted, gimme a mid 90s defending babyface champ Bret vs a 2003 heel Brock Lesnar
Well one thing could have been worse, they could have had Hannibal come and beat up a ref, I'm sure that would have gotten Vince into some trouble!😳🤔
Brian laugh its just amazing hahahahaha i love it 💣💣❤❤
Absolutely bret hart would be on my Mount Rushmore of wrestling along with Mr Perfect, Macho Man Randy Savage and the Undertaker !!! To me it’s about the ability and the heart , not the size of the pythons, the limited ability that seemed to carry you or the amount of steroids you popped
Philadelphia Steamboat vs B.Hart was when I became a Hitman fan,he lost but he carried that match.It also engraved into my brain this guy was gonna be a Future in WWF Star ⭐..Whose better Flair or Hart,.Open never ending debate ,But Thank Vince for promoting ,buying,ending same old shit
I don't think this is true. I see no team that looks like Hart Foundation, Bulldogs, Midnight Express, Rock n Roll, or Demolition for that matter. In fact since the Brothers of Destruction there's been no team that's matched that.
You could say that most teams are modeled off Too Cool than anyone else. Or Public Enemy. They're all a joke. And the Bloodline or the two brothers are basically a shitty version of the Islanders, who were good mind you but the Brainbusters, Rockers, Demolition, Strike Force, etc. were all so damn good.
Bret and Shawn's influence is the worst thing to happen to wrestling. You got workrate nerds now. Wrestling needs larger than life characters with exceptional promo skills. People should be influenced by the likes of Hogan, Macho, Piper, Rock, Austin not Shawn and Bret.
Bret made it feel real thts why he’s the goat
Corny is the Hulkster!!🤣🤣🤣🤣👊👊👊
Brothers of Destruction = Road Warrior offshoot.
I will say WCW was definitely more realistic than WWF in the day I would say when WWF started to change was when he brought FLAIR IN 92ISH
'Not anymore' best quote
I grew up in the New Generation Bret Hart as champion era. I'm 39. I knew of Hulk Hogan but watching WWF on TV before Raw was a challenge, so I knew Hulk was a cultural icon. Honestly I think promos in 1994 was less important. I remember lots of Yokozuna killing jobbers and draping the American flag over people.
I'm 37 and remember Hogan Vs Ultimate Warrrrior like it was yesterday 😅
It’s a damn shame that we’ll never get to see Bret Hart vs Kurt Angle.
Probably would almost be as good as Kurt vs Jeff Jarrett
True but we should also be appreciative for how many high profile matches we got between Angle, Lesnar, Eddie, Benoit, Rey, etc... 03/04 Smackdown was the best in ring period in wrestling history.
And it would have to be at an “In Your House”🏠 while Todd Pettengill gave some shmuck ass suburbanite that would be meth house
@@paranoidandroid9979 Almost as good as meth head HBK and HHH vs Taker and Kane... lmao
It would've been Benoit/Angle quality, but probably with slightly better promos
Bret is my favorite wrestler of all time. I even love the bitter old Bret lol. He’s hilarious
As crusty as he comes across, can't argue with his views.
Goat 🐐
@@Zanatos9 Bret Hart has earned the right to be bitter.
He isn’t bitter. He just tells it like it is. It anything, he’s just too honest
Likes all around
The way Bret carried himself in and out of the ring and how his character (and his matches) was presented to us, Bret just felt like a main character of a larger story or plot. All of his matches not only felt so cinematic and rich in story, but his opponents always felt like endgame antagonists (Jerry Lawler, Bam Bam Bigelow, Big Daddy, Shawn Michaels, and of course...The King of Hearts). Another thing I loved about him was that he was no "Superman" character. All of his matches felt like a real struggle where, at times, it seemed he would lose.
Amen to all of this. The part about Bret feeling like the main character is so true. He wasn't the invincible superhero, he was a hard-working and humble athlete with no quit in him. His feud with Yokozuna in the middle of his feud with his own brother, falling and rising in a bittersweet manner...that's just great, compelling storytelling.
@@revment
Yep! He was the Luke Skywalker of WWF.
Agreed for the most part. Bret had some out of the ring controversial moments likebamyn others; the difference is that his weren't destroying the company.
I believe if Bret didn't get his shot like he did, WWF/WWE would have most likely failed because NWA/WCW had some real good talent back then like Steamboat, a very young Sting, Terry Funk etc. Then eventually Hogan jumps ship. Not to take anything away from Randy Savage but, he already done his part, and WWE needed a guy who can take wrestling into a different direction and Brets tag team matches and Intercontinental matches were awesome. Bret Hart definitely a no brainer for Flair to drop the belt too especially after the match he had with Davey Boy Smith. I grew up a Hogan fan when I was 6-12 yrs old. His interviews were some of the best. Like Undertaker, Jake Robert's, Ric Flair just to name a few but, I wanted to see better wrestling and I became a huge Bret Hart after his feed with Mr. Perfect and Roddy Pipper. After he beat Pipper I was sold.
When did he fight Big Daddy?! Was that in England?
Bret had the best backbreaker of all time.
And the way he hit that turnbuckle sternum first looked sick
@@newageassholes the fact that you dont see this today is astounding. Nobody hit the buckles like him nor will they ever.
@@justsayin3000 Benoit was the last one I remember doing that spot.
Absolutely.
100%
Bret Hart and Randy Savage have been my 2 favorites, but as time goes on, I give Bret the nod because of the person he is. I love how honest he is, but yet you can still tell he loves the business and a lot of people in it.
Randy was a great wrestler and I'm a big fan of his too, but Bret was more "real". Better punches, more realistic offense and selling. Macho on the mic was a god, though. 😅
Bret was "human" the others were more cartoonishly over the top.
Thats why MR Perfect and Big Boss Man always were my number one, top workers, respwct for the biz and big hearts.
I’ve said this a few times I love both guys they are my all time favourites. But the biggest problem with today’s product is that their is too many guys trying to be HBK and not enough guys trying to be Bret Hart
WHO WOULD WANT TO BE SHAWN MICHAELS ??? YUCK.
No , they try to be some Manga guy i gladly dont know :-D
Bret is the old man yelling at clouds, who actually makes good points.
I can't argue with that.
Bret Hart has damn well earned the right to yell at clouds.
"First Goldberg costs me 16 million dollars, now i cant even have a sunny day at the park? THIS HAPPENS EVERYTIME IM IN MONTREAL"
A lot of wrestlers emulated Shawn Michaels and all of the big moments and mannerisms Shawn would do BUT those wrestlers didn't think about WHY Shawn did what he did in the ring. They just did the shit he did and looked fucking stupid and had no psychology. Bret Hart's matches at least looked real and made the lamen invest themselves inside his offense and defense.
Thank you. None of these wrestlers get Shawn Michaels. They do all the fancy shit, buy it has no psychology and they don't sell like Shawn.
Yeah, that's the thing. Shawn's stuff was far more athletic and flashy than the average wrestler but it all made sense and was logical. There's a reason that very few could touch him in the ring. And shit still holds up to this day.
@@ralphjb Bret developed his mic skills far too late. In 1997 he was amazing on the stick as a patriotic Canadian heel. I wish he would have discovered this a few years earlier and could have tried to talk people into the buildings
@@HEAVYDIAPER Yeah 1997 was the best version of Bret, too bad we didn't get alot of him
you might not realize it Adam, but you precisely just explained why HBK is the greatest to ever wrestle.
Wish more of the current generation took themselves seriously like Bret and tried to make their work look as good as his did. Unfortunately the majority of them went with Shawn, without Shawn's ability to make most of his stuff look good.
Bret`s knowledge of wrestling moves and how to use them correctly is up there with the best ever,the way he would work on body parts you actually believed he was putting full power into the hits,he was also a great bumper and seller in that he would never go over the top and over sell,when he got punched in the face he went down like he had been punched in the face lol
Bret's punches were like THUNDER. Dat snap suplex! Back breaker! Side Russian + second rope (Bret's Rope) elbow!
@@EXPLISITemcee Good eye! He totally drops to his knees when he's going to hit it, vs like you side taking that nice side slam bump like Savage. Bret still rules!
I still remember turning on WWF Superstars after cartoons and finding out that one of my favorite wrestlers was suddenly the WWF Champion.
Bret is my favorite wrestler. I agree with his statement. Bret is the first normal size guy of his generation. Big Shawn Michaels fan too but if Bret didn’t work out Shawn would of never got a chance either. But technically macho man was the first smaller champion that Vince took a chance on. Macho Man is was always amazing in the ring. But bret is the first of his generation Vince gambled on.
And Bret would look like Andre the giant with AEW midgets
@TheJoeGreene Too Many outside controversies and lawsuits caused the huge dip in ratings and crowds. To just blame that on Shawn and Bret is BULLSHIT.
@TheJoeGreene the business as a whole took a hit
Macho was the prototype!
@@Director2024 he was the total package.
Bret Hart had a good physique too tbf - he wasn't the pale, skinny, anorexic looking guy that Adam Cole is today!
Bret also had really cool ring gear that made him stand out.
He had BOTH the look and the believable in-ring style and it was the combination that made me such a fan of his.
Bret would be considered a Big guy by today's standards
I like Bret, but realistically they don't wrestle like either Hogan or Bret these days. If anything, they wrestle like Shawn Michaels.
Yup.. unwatchable garbage
That's the issue with Bret vs Shawn. HBK won the kids watching. They grew up into this PWG, leg slappin, 50 super kicks a match, plucky underdog no sellers. Bret style wrestlers need to save this business.
The best there is. The best there was. The best there ever will be.
Thanks for your hot take
Barry Horowitz?
Bret Hart and HBK are the biggest influences in pro wrestling today
@@benjaminubben4436 for sure 👍, i only say Bret Hart and HBK because they were the first two to become WWE Champion based on their in-ring skills in the 90s
Top 10 in my honest opinion
in no typical order
1 bret hart
2 hbk
3 stone cold
4 the rock
5 rvd
6 eddie guerrero
7 chris benoit ( if they want to admit it or not)
8 rey mysterio
9 kurt angle
10 kevin nash
This has a lot of truth to it. You ask most of the millennials in Wrestling who their favorite wrestler is, HBK and Bret Hart ate mentioned quite often.
@@OongTheLastAirbender good list 👍, I definitely agree with eddie and Benoit as big influences even though it’s taboo to appreciate Benoit’s career
And pro wrestling today is about 1/10th as popular as it used to be.
True story:
Around the age of 4 or 5 I was channel surfing on a Sunday. I landed on channel 5 (I live in NYC) and I saw a guy in red and yellow fighting someone. I thought it was pretty boring, and I changed the channel. Fast forward 3 years later and once again on another Sunday, I was channel surfing and landed on channel 5. I saw a guy in pink and black fighting someone. I thought to myself, pink is a girl's color, but there's something about this guy. I became mesmerized. I was delighted the following week when I saw him on Sunday again, and on Saturday. I never liked Hogan. Ever. If it wasn't for Bret, I more likely than not wouldn't have become a wrestling fan at all.
How did your sex change surgery turn out though?
@@respectedlocalgentleman7108 I'll only answer that if you tell me how recess was today? Did you have detention after class?
As I’ve gotten older, my appreciation for Bret Hart has grown immensely. His body of work holds up today. I’ll admit I probably took him for granted at the time. Just look at the way he tells a story in a match. He had the basics perfected. His punches looked legit. His selling was tremendous. To this day, if I was to try and sell wrestling to someone, I’d show them the WM13 match with Bret and Austin.
I've found that too, not so much the 90s stuff since I was a teen and appreciated it. But his 80s stuff that I watched as a kid, now rewatching it, I'm like...holy shit what a GREAT match. Especially Hart Foundation vs Rougeaus.
I don’t care what anyone says, flair is garbage.
I remember bret as a tag team wrestler and watching him get better and better, it was inevitable he had to go alone and he grew and evolved his character perfectly, kept it so fresh and made it so real, not many could tick as many boxes.
I WISH people in today's wrestling worked like Bret. Bret had a psychology, and and worked wrestling like it was real, you know, a real wrestler. By Wrestling.
This bullshit today of young bucks and lucha bros doing super spike piledrivers, kicking out, and that's only half the match before all the other bullshit? No, Bret never worked like that.
John cena was another hulk hogan in some ways
Bret Hart is at the front and center of the entire internet wrestling community.
"internet wrestling community" MARK!!! 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤡
Isn't that on the list of words / phrases that Vince refuses to acknowledge.
It's not wrestling it's sports entertainment.
It's not iwc it's marks that complain who never shut up. I.e. toxic fans.
Pal
Shawn Michaels is the one that influenced them. Wrestling woul be better if they were influenced by Bret Hart. Bret Hart was an amazing storyteller. Modern wrestling is missing that aspect.
Most of these guys DON'T wrestle like Bret ,bret made me believe he was in a fight ,they wrestle like shawn and do spots like the hardy's ,with shawn they are missing his timing and showmanship.
@@yoholmes273 huh?
We are blessed to have had a Hulk Hogan and a Bret Hart amongst us for a little while.
A roster full of Bret Hart's 😴😴😴😴😴
🤡
I would say wrestlers today try to be more like Shawn Michaels than Bret Hart. Nobody today wrestles like Bret Hart because they are too busy trying to do flips and pop the crowd so I have no idea what the Hitman is talking about.
He is delusional and bitter like normal.
Bret was my favorite and still is. He told an excellent story. He took a ton of details into consideration. I feel like Daniel Bryan and CM Punk were big Bret Hart fans. Those guys give excellent stories behind their matches more times than not. There are a few others those are just my two favorites now.
Also let's not forget when Bret saw potential in you he wanted to work with you and he would protect you unlike Lesnar or others now. Bret protected Stone Cold and Rock. He refused to beat Rock for the Intercontinental title and lost via DQ so Rock can have an out. He made Stone Cold bigger than ever. He would have helped anyone who showed potential. Unlike that idiot who wants to pretend he's a born again Christian.
This is the bottom line: do they successfully sell the story through violence and drama? And do people care enough to buy? Hogan is my generation. He cut great promos. That was then. Tastes amongst audiences has become more discerning, so there’s more demand for different kinds of stories. And in 2022 could you put the business on the back of someone like Hogan? Dwayne Johnson says yes. As much as people harp on Hogan a lot of people were inspired towards the commercial art form of violent choreography.
Bret Hart was the heir of Hulk Hogan's top spot. He put the focus on wrestling back on the map, and him and The Undertaker made pro Wrestling popular in Europe and the rest of the world. Both Bret and Hogan are my all time favourite wrestlers, but I like watching Bret Hart's classic matches more than any other wrestler. I have both of the Bret Hart DVD's and Hart & Soul Hart Family DVD. I also watched the Collesium Videos of Bret Hart on WWE Network.
Brett. The hitman. To me. Was the best all around. Technical wrestler. Mr perfect was. Dam. Good. As well……. 💯
It would have been nice to get more Perfect and Hitman matches and storylines
Bret Hart the Goat!
Totally agree
Bret hart was everything I ever wanted to be if I could wrestle on the big stage.
Bret Hart still has the best backbreaker in the business. Fight. Me.
Don't make me show you my backbreaker
The NWA and WWF both had good quality products at the time. The difference was WWF focused on show buisness while NWA felt more grounded. Ultimately WWF won that war
His matches watch even better today than they did at the time. That's why he's the GOAT. The Rock, Austin etc. were bigger draws but only Kurt Angle matches Bret Hart's talent as a professional wrestler (in the post-1980s WWF anyway).
I was born in 84, discovered wrestling when I was 6 or 7. Never cared much for Hogan, even as a little kid, for the same reason I didn’t like Superman comics. He was boring to watch because you knew he was just invincible. I attached immediately to Savage, and then Bret as my first two favorite wrestlers. Still two of the all time greats
I love how they start on one subject and go off on a tangent into a history lesson. Both entertaining and informative. If all learning was as fun as listening to Corny the world would be way more educated.
Nice at the moment i want to get into french history from about 1000 to 1700 , tell me when Jim drifts there...
I can remember a 2002 Calgary Sun column of Bret's where he praised Terry Bollea's legacy on the business, so even as late as 2002 Bret was prepared to be positive about Hogan. So bret saying stuff about hogan has no validity, grow up bret.
This was before he found out what a back stabbing, lying snake Hogan was... Now we all know about the Dbag and his "that doesn't work for me brother"
@@That90sShow Yet Bret said he hates hogan back in 1993 when hogan didn’t want to work with him. See that’s where Bret and his fans just get exposed.
@@heyyo7431 You do realize that you can hate someone but still respect them, right?
@@AWX_Wrestling Yet he was praising him after the fact, do you guys lack that much sense?
@@heyyo7431 Did I stutter?
I always found Bret horribly boring, but I won't deny he is a great wrestler.
Agreed.
For my birthday this year my friends got me a cameo from The Hitman. It’s awesome. He pretty much cuts a 90 second promo about how great I am. All facts.
To me, Bret Hart is the best ever. He was my hero growing up watching wrestling, and still is really. He made it feel real to an extent that no one else has, though a few have come close. He just had ... everything.
Had the pleasure of meeting him once and I absolutely froze up and couldn't say anything to him lol
I hate that term, "workrate". Smarks love throwing that word around 🙄
Yeah like the average fan cares about that shit, sure the hardcore fans enjoy it but in the bigger picture it doesn't mean shit its a business and what sales tickets and ppv etc is what matters.
As time goes on, it becomes more clear who really is the greatest and it’s Bret.
Absolutely fair and reasonable comments by Bret Hart. Guys like Bulldog, Warrior, Barbarian, Warlord, and Hogan were pushed to the side for good reason. WWF went with an actual "wrestler" who could take the focus off the "bodies", and focus on the "mechanics" and give wrestling some respect. Flair was stale, and Vince made the correct choice with Bret Hart. Period. Maybe the best "in ring worker" ever...
It's fine to like both guys.
Loved Bret's style. But he always made sense. Today's wrestlers don't make sense so i wouldn't say they are like him (hbk maybe)
But Hogan being useless in the ring is an ignorant statement
Agreed, as a kid I was a hogan fan i liked the colors the music the tearing of the shirt and the posing, but I grew to appreciate guys like bret who didn't have the flash or the charisma of a hogan but could tell a great story in the ring, & yes saying that Hogan didn't know how to wrestle is stupid.
Bret has always been my favorite even when he was a heel in the Hart Foundation. I could always count on him to deliver a good match whether it was with hakushi or diesel. From Zuna to the 123 kid
There many guys who copy Bret and HBK in ring styles, there few who understand that Hogan connected to the crowd like noone else - this "crazy mustache can't wrestle guy" made 2! companies (WWF and WCW) #1 in the world, perhaps there is something big to learn...and of course every face nowadays you some special comeback and probably don't even realize this was popularized by Hogan.
This is just stupid to not give credit to a guy who was front and center in 2 wrestling boom periods.
when it comes to pro wrestling Hogan is light-years better than Bret. Bret can work a 30 min match and Hogan will get the same reaction and end game in 10 min
And everyone will go home healthy and ready for the the show
Wanted to put it out here that New Brunswick is not a butt plug, stayed in Sackville for a night once and it’s a beautiful town.
They wrestle like bret hart and now no one wants to watch. hmmmm
I see what you did there...😂😂
We get it. Bret was a saint. Who fucking cares? How much money did he draw though??????? 🤣😂🤣😂
I feel bad that future generations will never experience an Undertaker. Today’s wrestling climate makes it next to impossible for that to happen again. A wrestler that transcends generations, era’s, time periods, socially change, and adapt with them while still maintaining that supernatural appeal that made the character great. Sad.
Wow. Totally agree
I've loved wrestling since I was a kid, but the undertaker has always been on another level of fascinating to me, and still to this day. It's the one wrestling character that rivals fictional characters outside of wrestling in coolness.
Yes need more dead guys with supernatural powers
No, just less guys that look and act like jobbers.
For tag teams, the Steiners were so good, loved watching as a kid
Steiner vs the British Bulldogs, that's good shit pal
The first ppv I ever saw on sky tv in the UK was King of the Ring 93. I was 8 years old. From VHS tapes I was a huge Hogan fan but after that night I was a Bret Hart fan. The way he won the tournament was an amazing story. I didn't even care Hogan lost the belt that night. I was so outraged after Lawler attacked Bret at the end. I was so angry I couldn't sleep. Hogan was a great character larger than life. He got me interested in wrestling but it was Bret Hart who made me appreciate wrestling.
Such a true statement 👍🏾👍🏾🔥🔥
What really got Bret over was that he was an extremely talented wrestler and he looked like a regular every man. It's why a lot of kids my age at the time idolized him because he could be what they wanted to be as a child. Hulk Hogan was Superman, Bret Hart was Batman.
Bret Hart vs Ricky Steamboat at the Boston Garden from April (?) 1986 was my Bret Hart epiphany. I nearly wore out that section of the VHS tape watching that match so many times. Still holds up today. It was after seeing that match that I sought out Stampede wrestling tapes, which were hard to come by in the US. Bret Hart was so good at that time, but it was still a "big guy" era unfortunately so he didn't get the big push.
Don't see much of his influence today-most of the guys have copied Sabu & Jeff Hardy with flips, dives, falling off high things & then added in their own video game, ballet, highly choreographed phony looking garbage.
Sabu hated calling matches beforehand
Bret was and still is the man. God bless him. He saved WWE back in the 90's
Calling Hogan useless is unfair. You can say Bret was a better athlete and in-ring wrestler, but what makes wrestlers great are CHARACTERS. Hogan is one of the greatest characters of all time. Bret is arguably the best wrestler of all time. But in the wrestling BUSINESS, drawing money is priority #1, and Hogan did that better than Bret.
For the record, I’m a huge Bret Hart fan and truly do believe he’s the greatest of all time.
Coming off WWF's Hulkamania Era, Bret was such a shift in style and approach. Hogan may have made you enjoy wrestling as entertainment, but Bret made you appreciate wrestling for the skillfullness and the technical prowess.
My one regret was I didn't watch enough Bret Hart growing up as it happened. But watching Bret/Diesel and Bret/Austin wasn't a bad way to get hooked on wrestling.
you gotta watch bret vs owen wm10 best tech match ever
If you can, bret vs dynamite in calgary
As a 90's kid (born in the mid 80's) growing-up in Canada, I was a huge mark for Bret Hart (before I ever knew what a mark was). It's not an exaggeration that Bret truly was a hero to kids like me - and he still is.
He just got a star on Canada's walk of fame and was voted one of the 50 most important Canadians. He has this level of respect and adulation not just because he was a 5-time champ (back when that meant something) but because he ended-up being one of the greatest wrestlers of all-time. He was also one of the most famous Canadian athletes around the world at a time when wrestling was not really mainstream. Wrestling exploded in Canada in '97 when they finally started showing RAW on cable live. Bret was the top heel and one of the top stars in the company (along with Stone Cold and Shawn) at that time. A shame how Montreal and then WCW turned-out, but Bret already had a 20 year career under his belt and it probably only made him more famous.
As a Calgarian, I echo your sentiments. He's our hometown hero. Same goes for Owen.
He's big deal here in the UK too
As an American, Michaels is trash compared to Bret (hell Owen too). They were real wrestlers. Michaels is just a showman
Cool Canadian kids rocked out with Dino Bravo.
Bret was HUGE here in Germany in the wrestlingboom in the 90s, he was most over though with young girls, we boys had other Fans, even if we respected him beside wearing pink and been Robert pattinsoned by the gurls.
Modding old SvR games while listening to Corny. All I need is a damn blunt 😂
Grow up to be like me man, I use a 1 hitter that looks like a cigarette.
Best there is, best there was, best there ever will be. Oldberg deprived us all of Angle vs. Hart and I will be miserable about that until the day I die.
Cornette’s comments about The Ultimate Warrior got me. How great of a worker was Randy Savage to get that WM7 match out of Warrior? Classic match imo, one I remember so much as a kid.
Why is there such hate for hogan's work with the subscribers to this channel? Check wrestlemania match with the rock, this guy knew exactly what he was doing to a high level
Because many of them are also fans of Dave Meltzer.
@@danielburger1775 fuck those guys.
Bret > Shawn
A few years back I went watched WWF and WCW from 96-98 prior to the attitude Era. I didn't expect to like Bret, thinking he'd be too old school or slow, he was my favorite right away and going thru all the old matches he was impeccable
Thats good shit, pal
I was a fan of Bret's even back when I hated the Hart Foundation.
I feel lucky to have been able to watch the rise of Bret. The first PPV I was ever allowed to get was SummerSlam '91. Even as a kid you know when you're watching a match that isn't like other matches. Bret catching Perfect's leg drop and turning it over into the Sharpshooter was the coolest thing I had ever seen.
bret has consistently said for the last 15-20 years in shoots that Mr. Perfect was the best opponent he ever wrestled. it's a shame Hennig isn't recognized as much as he is
Same! I saw him in his prime. He was the king.
Their KotR '93 match was better
Imagine how much better the match would have been if Curt Hennig wasn't wrestling while hurt. He did a bang-up job but he was in a tremendous amount of pain that night.
I never really got Bret
I still can't believe how Vince couldn't see how big of an influence Bret Hart would be on the entire industry forever especially on the current best wrestlers in the world and picked the stripper over him.
Bret was a Wrestling Savant so smart I think in many ways he is really underated and not Truly appreacited for what he brought to wrestling.
Always loved the Hitman....especially when he was tag partners with Jim the Anvil Neidhart and had jimmy as their manager....the matches between them and the British Bulldogs were excellent!
Everyone in the generation after Bret and Shawn wanted to be like Bret and Shawn but they only learned the moves and not the personas or psychology.