Jim Cornette Reviews Episode Two Of Mr. McMahon on Netflix
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- From Episode 361 of the Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Never mind Vince’s childhood, now I want to know about Jim’s childhood after that Patterson rant…😂
Man that was wild 😮😂
No shit. I thought he was doing some sad attempt at humor. I wouldn't have released this one.
It's boys locker room shenanigans. Very common back in the day. You'd see some guy stick his thumb up someone's ass in the locker room then hear that same guy calling someone a f*g later that day. It was a.... strange time..... lol
More wild @32:25 could swear jim starts to say brock lesnar got a finger up the *ss then trails off casually
@@sidewayssil5348 wtf...
Jim doing a great job of making Pat come off worse
And himself.
It got lost in translation, but he's right about the fact a poorly aged but not uncommon for the time locker room behavior shouldn't be enough to incriminate Pat as predator who was abusing his influence in the office.
Made the whole locker room look worse tbh 😂
@@KingGhidorah5464 There was a way to make that point without being as crass about it as Jim was here. He considered Pat a mentor and a friend so he came at it from a purely defensive standpoint which did neither Pat or himself any favors.
@@KingGhidorah5464 and Brian is still right no matter the day its not normal or right lol.
His lawyers for the Janel Grant case must have torn their hair out when he said the Rita Chatterton stuff didn't matter anyway because the statute had passed.
and im so happy they included that, thats VINCE. he’s going down and i cant wait.
@@rima7286nope after they produced The Love letter I thought wow Vince is actually innocent. Let me guess you're going to say Vince is a mind reader and forced her because he knew he would need a love letter LOL. She was not a child she's a 40 year old woman who knows how to say no and walk away from things. Y'all are letting your hatred for Vince McMahon blind you. It's ironic so many fans of a product hate the guy who made the product what it is.
@@shadycnetwork he made his daughter resigned and sold the company, does that not go against everything you know about him? if im blinded by hate youre blinded by worship.
One thing I noticed about Vince while watching this is this way he has of blurting things out. He just says these kind of vile things and then sits there staring. For some reason it made me wonder if he’s furious that he finally got old. He wasn’t able to force old age into submission.
@@rima7286Nah, it's pretty clear Grant was dtf.
Crazy how Jim defends Pat patterson when there is a shoot interview from Roddy pieper talking about this situation and it was clearly not okay…you can see between the lines..most people can, come on now 🤦♂️
Jim wishes it was him instead. He's definitely into some fruity stuff
Marty jannetty has a similar story and Jim powers and brick house brown have both said they were alone in a room with Pat and he promised them bigger roles in the company while he started unzipping his pants if they played along.
@@FREESPIRITZUEZ not trying to defend Pat here, but didn't Roddy walk that back before he died. Or at least I remember him specifically saying it wasn't about what everyone thought it was.
I just want to clarify in case the video I watched was Roddy's response to something else.
Brick house Brown says the same.. Everyone isn't making up the same story about the man..
I know Pat is a wrestling legend, but that doesn't mean he wasn't an evil man..
That shoot interview is evidently an internet outistes nightmare. Not only is Piper kayfabing half the time, he's clearly just reminiscing, nothing more.
It's crazy to me that the people complain about young people being gay now, were actually even gayer😂
Who complains about what?
Cornette review of the doc is more entertaining than Netflix doc, Netflix should just add Jim's follow up review of their doc.
Seriously, you want ratings?, hire Jim and Brian
@LobsterCucumber jim*
So true the doc was mostly boring
@@jlinn12So not. You guys are dipshits.
Started watching it and bailed it is for people who don't or didn't watch wrestling
I ain't re-watching an edited version of what I've seen already with Vince's version of events presented
They say the winner of war gets to write history but in Vince's case the criminal investigation and lawsuits may be writing his
Corny is off base on pat Patterson. Imagine a certain orange man had done that, it would be fuel to a fire (not a trump supporter, by the way)
This is Whataboutism.
Let's just say he's not on the right side of this conversation.
The fact that Cornette tries to justify sexual assault is disgusting. Kudos to Brian for calling him out.
Jim defended Pat harder than Bruce did Vince in the doc. lol
Jim defending Pat Patterson in this video ended up being more controversial than this entire documentary 😂😂😂
Coronet forgot about the word horse play for some reason. Also the only reason why these guys became wrestlers is because they are f****** weird and there's no other place that would probably hire them ever
I’m 7 years older than Brian and 12 younger than Jim… I definitely come down as anti “grabbing random people’s junk in the locker room” for giggles.
I wonder where the generational divide happened on locker room butt-thumbing. 🤔
It makes me laugh to hear all these stories about how tough wrestlers were in the day. As a man who grew up in the south during this era, I can assure you that if these guys tried this stuff in the outside world they would have been shot or stabbed fairly quickly. 99% of this stuff is bs.
Always been weirdo behavior. People just kept mouths shut and didnt get in others business yrs ago. also Corney wants to push all gay people good narrative.
@@27MOJOKINGShow business (including wrestling) has always had warped values.
@@Zeke_O3773 don't think there is a generational divide. I'm younger than Brian and there are goofs my age who would say it's fine now and people need to get over it. And there were people in Jim's time that said WTF?
Lotta repression out there
What's odd about touching someone inappropriately in the shower?
A lot of things actually
And even back then, if that behavior went public, it would have ruined the reputation of the company. It would have had more to do with anti-gay sentiments than any kind of common decency, but that wouldn't change much.
@@hurgenflerg2133I can’t tell you how many times guys have reached for /slapped my junk or pinched my nips or slapped my @ss. In locker rooms and in the hallways at work and school. You seriously haven’t ever seen this? It’s constant with athletes and anywhere you find “bros”. I never participated in it and I think it’s blatantly homoerotic. But thats how it’s always been.
Yea wtf? How does Jim not know that it's totally NOT appropriate or even funny?
This is the same industry and time that thought crapping in someone's duffle bag and drugging unsuspecting people by spiking their drinks was "all in good fun" so it's not really surprising sexual assault would be in there. If they would have had a hot plate in the locker room it probably would have been "lol, scalding water to the face!"
@@rupe82he never seemed to me like the guy to do it to somebody but now im nervous. wtf
I will never understand that locker room sexual stuff. I disagree 100% with Jim and agree with Brian. I'm a huge Corny fan too, but he's dead wrong here.
I was a high school track athlete and I was recruited to the football team my freshman year. I had heard stories about that kind of stuff in the locker rooms and away at football camp so I always refused to play football.
Granted I'm now in my forties in a much healthier state probably for not playing high school football, that kind of stuff is so wrong and not necessary and weird.
Men do do that shit in locker rooms. I remember one or two dudes would try smacking asses if dudes were bent over doing something. It wasn't gay it was just locker room shananigans. I was never one for smacking people's asses but you could see it wasn't meant with any intentions.
Bingo. You could literally summerize that whole thing by going "Jim Cornette says sexual assault in the locker room is normal" and Brian Last saying "That doesn't mean its not assault, and thats weird af."
This is the first time I've ever actually been offended by anything Jim's ever said.
Why? I find it funny that people who routinely buy products they know required war, slavery, rampant human rights violations and truly dire environmental impacts. Go to such great lengths to pretend they give a crap about how others are treated.
So look around your house, look at the clothes you are wearing, the food you eat... you 100% know how many people you fucked over to get that
Now tell me why Jim offends you
I'm starting to think there is Stockholm syndrome in the wrestling business
Something is going on
It was a cult type thing back then. A carny hustle full of criminals & outsiders. With a form of omertà like the mob.
Brian Last a real life wrestling historian he remembers everything.
I dont think Jim hears how this is sounding.
Not good
He did say Curt Henning and Tom Billington were hilarious ribbers. Looking back on those stories that's just terrifying man....
What do you mean? That’s his lived experience and I saw much of the same growing up. Athletes in any team sport are weird af.
I'm glad Brian Last is here to point out to Jim Cornette that the things he was accustomed to in the locker room growing up was weird as fuck and never to be considered normal
Agreed but Jim’s point of view is valid too that was common place back then so while we were shocked he like yeah so what?
@@armandogomez2677 Just because its "common" doesn't mean its not assault.
@@armandogomez2677 There was a time when owning slaves was common but that doesn't make it morally acceptable
Don't join the military lol
@@LoudFlimzztimes change wasn't assault then simple as that people didn't think twice about it now its different if you're a kid born after 99 you simply dont get it and never will
I'm from England and it is called 'grassing someone up'.
I believe they call it 'Snitching' in the US?
There is no pride in that and Hogan seemed very comfortable in the role of 'grassing on someone'.
There is no honour in that.
People don't like what's being said about Pat Patterson and using the excuse "its bc he was gay..". Sexual Harassment is about power, gay or straight, he had power.
He just activated his power by repeatedly pulling his power from some young guy's crevasse.
@@skristianfgood one 👍🏽
You speaking the truth..
100%.
Boo hoo
This is not the first time that Jim has defended Pat Patterson and will not be the last. His view and Bruce Pritchard's view on the claims about Patterson have always aligned. Basically "I don't believe anyone saying he did anything untoward. Grabbing penises in the locker room was something the boys used to do for fun back in the day and it's not inappropriate."
It's a wild take, but it should surprise no one. A lot of guys will defend Pat Patterson to the death because they liked him personally and therefore he could do no wrong.
@@justinsayswtf I CAN believe there was homoerotic hazing, but that doesn't make it ok
That’s what my issue with Jim has always been. He will give cover for people he likes for their bad behaviour, but if someone who disrespects wrestling commits the smallest infraction, he assassinates their character-like he did Sable. His morals seem to shift depending on the person.
@@mykoniichistorychannel Yea it fucking sucks, usually he has a decent moral compass on most things but that tirade entirely ruined this episode
It’s just a prank bro.
The prank in question: 👍🍑👀
Jim is blinded by the “old ways” of wrestling sometimes ..
I love the podcast but you can’t defend Pat Patterson even it was for “giggles” which I highly doubt it was ..
This isn't even about the "old ways" of wrestling. This is just about a weird toxic culture, that still exist in some corners.
Jim when talking about wrestling and just wrestling, is typically spot on. Hell, when he talks about booking most of what he says applies to basic storytelling beyond wrestling. But as soon as you get him out of that wrestling bubble, man, he can be beyond clueless and even gross.
"We would have been looked upon in today's society as some of the worst human beings walking the face of the Earth. I mean, we abused the hell out of women. All of us did. You know, they were like a toy for us,"- Tony Atlas. Why are y’all getting up on a soapbox on Tony Atlas’ behalf?
@@thebigmanufacturer It's not one of the other. Both are bad.
Meh.
@@thebigmanufacturer Tony Atlas has acknowledged his guilt, and apologised. Maybe that's the difference? Personally, I don't care, but that seems to be the difference.
Jim defending Pat Patterson doing backstage what Kenny Omega does in the ring... interesting....
I thought the same thing. That was a bizarre defense by Jim
It's not that interesting. Patterson doing it backstage away from the audience and Kenny doing it on air for all to see are entirely different things.
The Patterson thing is what Cornette thinks is a rib between the boys backstage. Omega shoved his hand up asses on camera as part of the art form.
That was the first thing that came to my mind
Remember what vince said.
Different times, different values, different beliefs, different traditions etc.
You can apply modern values etc into those times.
Its the past is now history. We are supposed to learn from it and not let it repeat in our present and the future.
🙄 You lack a lot of sports and wrestling history. Back then a lot of weird and nasty shit were seen as normal. And thats it.
I’m glad Brian didn’t defend that weirdo behavior Jim was talking about being “normal”
It's weird to most of us born after 1970.
I have no idea how Jim thinks it's acceptable. It's something that is going to be remembered and used against him.
@rupe82 I'm actually not completely against jim on that.i played alot of team sports in the 90s and 00s and alot of what he was saying was common place and not in a malicious way.the whole smacking a guys ass or whatever.there was never any undercurrent of anything sexual.we trained together,played on match day together,showered together,laughed together,cried together,fought together and with eachother.it was a brotherhood.its still the most fun I've ever been apart of.maybe I'm wrong on it but to quote jim from the video,"it didn't feel weird to me".
Finished the whole Vince documentary. Nothing groundbreaking, it's already stuff most of us knew. It's cool to watch as a wrestling fan but it's just another history of the business piece.
Remember that there’s a much bigger audience than the small audience of wrestling obsessives
I do agree that for us older fans we've heard all this stuff to death, but I will at least give them the credibility of using the Netflix twist to speak to new audiences
I was really disappointed in it. It was basically a brief history of WWE with a Dark Side of The Ring filter put on it, but only just barely, and barely any of it is actually about Vince.
They should have went deeper into his childhood..
Not necessarily for us wrestling fans. Its to introduce a new audience to the depraved Mr McMahon
Jesus Jim, the defence of Patterson is WAY off
I think it's reasonable to say there is a difference between a gay man nonconsensually touching a straight man in the shower, and a gay man participating in systematic abuse of underage boys. This isn't to defend Patterson regarding anything that he might've done to Tony Atlas, but simply to say there's a difference between rape and pedophilia, and that should be highlighted to keep these real and fake scandals from intermingling more than they already have. Did Jim do that well, or with the appropriate nuance at all? No, and frankly, that disappoints me but doesn't surprise me. But I think it's important that we as the audience keep that in mind. We can defend Pat from ring boy allegations without defending him from whatever Tony was talking about.
Mike what do you mean way off? I know this is a shock to you so hold on to your britches. You didn't know Patterson personally. You have no right to say what is or isn't way off. That's my motto if you don't know someone personally just keep your mouth closed.
@@shadycnetwork why? fuck patterson.
defending sexual assault as a "joke"
He'll defend anyone he considers a friend no matter how guilty they are...unless it's about politics.
defending sexual assault is such a wild take, Jim.
Imagine the exact same thing being attributed to Trump that he is attempting his bizarre defense of Pat.
That's one thing he never criticises Trump for (at least I haven't heard it).
He regularly defends people in situations like this. I somewhat agree with him but it depends on the circumstances.
Anyway there must be a reason he strongly defends stuff like this though.. he's definitely had a fruity past
@@Mark-eg2ydJim despises Trump and all Republicans. He has mentioned numerous times.
It's nice to hear it pointed out that Hogan ripped off his character from several different wrestlers. Everyone always just cites Billy Graham. But Billy Graham was Leauges more charismatic than Hogan. If Superstar was his inspiration, he did a shit job at emulating him.
Damn, Jimmy. I still enjoy the podcast, but hope you're not too set in your ways to realize that defending Pat's blatant sexual assault is actually not okay. No one cares if that's "just how it is in the wrestling business". It's not okay. Honestly good on Brian Last for sticking with his stance.
@shilomurphy8289 you weren't there. You don't know better than Jim.
I find it funny that people who routinely buy products they know required war, slavery, rampant human rights violations and truly dire environmental impacts. Go to such great lengths to pretend they give a crap about how others are treated.
Damn hypocrites.😂
@@deepblue8143never played sports? Never stepped foot in a locker room? Ok keep your mouth shut till you do
@@deepblue8143you werent there either so screw you for defending a child molester
@@kylewicks6133 I agree with that.
I think the Pat Patterson and Tony Atlas discussion is a good example of how Jim is often one of the most liberal-minded people in any room until you start pointing a critical light at the wrestling business. Then he's suddenly a conservative and his defenses turn into variations of "well that's the way it was always done" and "no one seemed to complain about it", which aren't justifications for behavior that took place less than 100 years ago. We're not dealing with Classical Greece here. The moral standards against sexually assaulting people were well emplaced by the 20th century, if not yet well enforced. Good on Brian for not backing down. The best that can be said about that sort of behavior is that it was childish, and Jim has little grounds to criticize the infantile crap modern wrestlers do while he continues to defend those kinds of practices.
Jim defends the backstage carny nonsense every chance he gets whether it's the wrestler's court or Patterson fondling wrestlers in the shower.
He's more mad that wrestlers are playing video games then sexually assaulting coworkers for shits and giggles
Yep. I think he had to develop some kind of selective thinking to live in that business. It's not as if abuse wasn't rampant in wrestling.
Why are you implying that conservatives are the ones who condone groping and sexual misconduct?
It's conservatives who go beyond the law and unalive their wife/daughter/sister's SAers with a firearm while Liberals go and make defense pleas for the widdle innocent assaulter.
That said, It's hard to judge social norms from half a decade+ ago, specially through modern lenses. I guarantee you that 1/2 the things you say and do will be looked on negatively by people a century from now.
💯. Jim has said, many times, that wrestling was made up of people who wouldn't fit in elsewhere, and this is one of those things that wouldn't fit in anywhere else (unlike a thumb in the ass, maybe). It would have been so easy to have said, "Yeah, it was a different time, but you're right, Brian - that time has passed and people SHOULDN'T be grabbing others' dicks without consent like that."
i think tony atlas would have been the only talking head to pass a lie detector test while being interviewed for the doc
Or the “sniff” test 😂
It's amazing that Vince made him just a dumb old man laughing 15 years ago on ECW and now Tony is just spitting fire
Let’s be clear, Hogan-Idol-Ventura all ripped off “Superstar” Billy Graham
The video was doing so good until the Pat’s Sexual behavior and Jim defending it. If Jim starts to blow up of Twitter/X for this. I think it’s safe to say, we are not defending him for this.
After the purple lips comment from Brian last episode, I think this will be Travis’ Vince McMahon artwork going forward 🤣🤣 though I melting face Vince is funnier hahaha
I noticed those purple lips while watching the doc, I was just weirded out whenever he appears. 😂
The defense of Pat Patterson is weird.
Yeah, he's gone off the fucking rails. I know he took some bumps. Maybe CTE brain.
It was a weird time. Gay panic was still a legal defense for killing someone.
I think they defend him so bad cause if they didn’t their might be more lawsuits involving sexual assault from
The men now.
@@TheGreat_Kramer1 is it gay panic when pat was hitting on wrestlers or offering advancement if they do a favor for him? I’ve heard about this from OG wrestlers and looking back there was a lot of covering up imo.
Ring boys @@rikflare7970
This episode is like your favorite grandpa saying some weird shit at the family reunion that has you questioning whether he should drive himself home or not.
I agree. At first, i thought he was ribbing, but then...
So fucking apt!!!!
Vince or Jim 😭
I've been more excited to hear Jim's reviews of the documentary then I was to watch the actual documentary. 😂
Ok I’m from Michigan…..don’t diss us Brian
Jim's take on the locker room stuff just shows that if you spend enough time in a weird environment, the weirdness eventually becomes assumed normality to you.
And just for the record, everybody always jumps on the sexual stuff - but all that crap Mr. Fuji pulled with his "stiff ribs", for example, wasn't normal human behaviour either. The guy was a sadist. There's a reason why pro wrestling attracted so many people who couldn't function in regular society, not even for a month.
I played high school football and there was a little bit of that in the locker room and I thought it was stupid and juvenile and gross.
The Jim vs Brian locker room debate. Reminds a lot of talking to people who went to boarding schools in the uk. You're like foot no thats not ok. Thats assault.
I just watched the last episode about the scandals. The way they set up Prichard was pretty glorious but it seemed pretty clear it started as a semi puff piece with not a lot of new information and useless talking heads
"Well maybe she's a Fu**ing saint." 😂😂😂 Jim Cornette.
I loved no holds barred as a guilty pleasure cause I was fucking 6 when it came out
Regarding Pat and Tony, it's pretty clear that wrestlers backstage have always done some weird shit to each other. Owen Hart would literally use the daterape drug on his friends to play pranks on them, and Jim lists hundreds of examples across this channel of strange, cruel things that wrestlers would do to each other for fun. We shouldn't defend that behavior, but I'm not going to hold Pat any more accountable than the other wrestlers we all know did shit like this, simply because he was gay. The wrestling locker rooms of the 80's into the 2000's were toxic, abusive places that were probably just as mentally damaging to the wrestlers that thrived in them as they were to the wrestlers that were subjected to them. This behavior has largely changed, by all accounts, and I think we can acknowledge that and move on. The vast majority of the participants are sadly already dead or will be soon, and it is almost impossible to find anyone with clean hands at this point. This is an incredibly nuanced topic that we should take seriously as modern fans, and we can't let the discourse be dominated us by being surprised when 60-80 year old men don't have 100% correct takes all the time.
Sodomy is not horsing around or locker room shit lmfao
Yeah we saw that on the plane ride from Hell... Seriously awful... Wrestlers were sick man...
Corny is such a weirdo... not quite Vince level but ffs...
Yeah he's weird there's no denying that
I almost blew snot in my eggs when Jim said Cheif Jay Strongbow might check your oil 😂😂😂
Nice visual 😢
He said it twice! 😂😂😂
I finished it last night and Bruce Prichard said that he doesn't believe the crap Vince has done , because he gave his wife the best medical care to save her from Cancer smfh.
I don't think that he doesn't believe it. He doesn't care.
Tony Atlas reminds me of the no filter uncle who doesn't give a damn. He's been hilarious😂
Best part of the doc hands down
So far the Netflix thing is not very good
I see Pat Patterson getting the Grizzly Smith defense from Jim. So playing video games bad but harassing others is fine
I don't remember him defending Grizzly Smith.
Go back to that episode and listen. He never defended Grizzly Smith.
@@Loe_JistSeriously. Like not even a little bit.
Jim defended many sexual miss conduct over the years... many times undermining wrestlers with underage rats also... not sure I like that about him.
There weren't a lot of good people in this business, that's for sure.
You just know Jim got his share of that underage rats as well, knowingly or not
@@watchitlive8460Actually, while watching this documentary, that’s what came to my mind. What a difficult industry to pursue. It seems to have twisted the minds of many of the people who worked in it. What’s normal to them is very different from what’s normal to many other people.
You aren't sure?
Welcome to fame and fortune. It's the same for them all, regardless of their industry.
@32:25 Did Jim start to say brock lesnar was the last person to get a thumb up the *ss then trailed off to the next sentence or is that just me
While yes, I agree that this was not made for us wrestling fans; it was made for non-wrestling fans and the average Netflix subscriber. So we didn’t learn anything new for us wrestling nerds. But it’s still doesn’t excuse the fact that they had Vince McMahon for four straight hours in front of them, and they did not push nearly hard enough On getting more answers out of him about his childhood and upbringing, no matter how uncomfortable he was. That is what we were supposedly promised: Vince telling stories we’ve never heard before about his personal life. I love the fact that Bryan goes all in on the Shoemaker clown, who attempts to call himself a wrestling historian! and love Brian even more for calling him out on the lies he told in the Andre the giant documentary they did. Thank you, Brian Last for always keeping it real lol!
"Check your oil"..🤣😲😬
In terms of the ring boy scandal, I also tend to think pat got lumped in because he was Vince's number two and he's gay.
The lockerroom stuff with the guys, I get what Jim us saying. Locker room culture in general was crazy, especially then but it was part of the experience of that era. At the same time Brian is also right, that stuff was wrong then and it's wrong now.
Tom Cole named Pat in his initial lawsuit, saying Pat groped him when he was an underage ring boy.
The purple lips!!!🤣
It’s hilarious how normal Jim thinks the locker room behavior was back then but these are the same guys that celebrated taking a dump in people’s bags with a soft serve pinch on top!
Bruh, these pat takes will not age well. Not a good look.
26:16 26:33 WE GOTCHA CORNY!
I absolutely love this drop episode by episode. I'm not even going to bother with the documentary, would much rather listen to Jim and Brian recap and give their own professional insights.
VINCE SHOULDVE CALLED STEPHEN P NEW 🤷🏼♂️
I agree wholeheartedly!
I fully expect Jim and Brian to put a follow up clip up to the Pat Patterson/Tony Atlas thing, and while he definitely worded it poorly, the fact remains that a poorly-aged but not uncommon at the time locker room behavior does not justify the massive leap to assuming Pat was also a child predator and abused his office position in the ways people want to claim he did just because “he was the other gay guy.”
@@KingGhidorah5464 What he did was ABOLUTELY harrassment/assault but yea, no need to pedojacket the guy
I think they will have to. The response is not good for Jim.
@@Batony Agreed
Tom Cole named Pat directly in his initial lawsuit, saying Pat groped him when he was an underage ring boy.
Yeah, have to admit, don't agree with the Patterson defence here. Misguided from Cornette, which is unusual for someone who seems very smart. I think sometimes he's too blinded by the "old days" of wrestling.
These comments might even come back to haunt him a bit.
I noticed some mistakes in the English captioning. Such as labeling some of the offscreen announcing as “Gorilla” instead of Howard Finkel, or writing “bop” instead of “pop” for the crowd cheering. And what was the point of writing “World Wrestling Entertainment” instead for every time when someone said “Federation”? Yeah it’s nitpicking, I know. But it was annoying nonetheless. Anyway, it was just a 6 hour surface overview of the history of WWE. We didn’t learn anything new, except maybe that HHH took outright responsibility for the Montreal Screwjob.
In the episode where they showed Taker showing up to choke slam The Rock at WM , The cc reads "The Undertaker's bong hits" instead of "gong hits". Absolutely hilarious.
@@TheLedonne3lol exactly, it was just such a low effort endeavor
Jim was a party of zesty work
Jim Cornette, what are you thinking by defending that Pat Patterson foolery?
yeah I'm starting to think that whole story of Jim and his wife abusing men in OVW is actually true lol
Brian's parents risked possible kidnapping of their children to avoid having to watch No Holds Barred. 😅😅😂
wtf jim
WM7 was when I became a wrestling fan. I was 9 years old. I knew about the Gulf War, but didn't really understand it. I loved a good villain, and was a fan of both The Punisher and The A-Team, so I really liked a good story about US soldiers. The Heel Sgt Slaughter gimmick mesmerised me, as my first main event.
Corny's pat defense is weird even though i know it's true that it went on. I can remember a WWF Ronnie Garvin match where a guy was facing the other way and he took his finger and poked him right in the butt, and i always thought that was really weird.
lol!!!!! On episode like 5 or 6, Bruce Prichard got p.o.ed about how Vince looked bad in the 1st and 2nd episodes. They must have screened it before the public somehow. I can't wait to see what both Brian and Jim have to say about it. Bruce Prichard is like Vince's lap dog. I wonder if he is still Vince's avatar like Help Me Rhonda said.
They were speaking about the schedule and the no union like it was a WWE problem. I looked it up around that time the NWA had a similar schedule and no union.
Cringe comments from Jim with the whole Pat Patterson stuff. Yikes.
I tried to check someone’s oil in a wrestling match once. He ended giggling and told me to go deeper. It didn’t workout like I had hoped and I lost the match.
Vincent Kennedy McMahon for over 60 years the revolutionary force in sports entertainment 😂
Jim is from another time where this is considered horseplay so I understand him thinking people are just being over sensitive but at the same time just because it was considered ok back than doesn’t mean it was or ever will be ok and that’s what Jim is missing I know everyone is offended by everything nowadays but this is one of those things where it’s completely understandable to say this is wrong no matter the circumstances joking or if it’s not cool so Brian is right I understand Jim’s perspective he’s from another age but that’s the point of evolving is learning from mistakes what is acceptable and what isn’t.
It still goes on today. Athletes who play hockey or baseball or football or basketball aren’t usually socially conscious or particularly concerned with etiquette or the feelings of teammates. And with pro wrestlers it’s probably worse. It’s an extremely close contact sport where you touch other guys bodies all over the place anyway. I’ve seen many body slams where the guy is definitely touching the other guys junk.
Much hype for stuff most of us already knew. Have not watched it nor plan to watch it.
Is this the locker room “talk” I keep hearing about?
Holy shit, the rat is freaking classic! 😂
Jim's hate of Phil Mushnik is beautiful.
Well Brian now you know to watch for youthful play from Jim if you bend over near him. Sheesh that's just nuts.
Hearing Jim's defense of the locker room "joking and messing around" makes me glad I was never in sports
sexual assault is bad actually
Jim always seems to defend or rationalize the behavior of people he likes. Pat Patterson, Ric Flair, he downplayed the Tessa Blanchard stuff because he liked Tully. So typical of him.
Everyone does that
@@natediaz1863 defends pedophiles, sexual abusers and racists? No, not everybody.
I thought he did it with Vince A LOT, especially given that Vince largely destroyed pro wrestling as Jim sees it should be.
I am 62... and I get what Jim is saying.... "Boys will be boys" in the locker room... there is a difference between doing it as a rib in a locker room....and FORCING someone to make them keep their job.
Finally a comment with some common sense. It’s old school locker room hazing. Not everything is malicious like today’s victim mentality society.
@@HotRodM4 Exactly. I have been a fan since I was 5 years old...and I TOTALLY understand the old school ways of the boys in the locker room. Could you do it now... no way... but then... like I said, it was "Boys will be boys"
Pathetic.
@@JohnSmith-ek8rj No, you just don't get it. It is blatantly obvious it is generational. Even as a woman, I understood what "boys will be boys" meant back then. They were not going out and forcing it on others...they were just goofing on each other in the locker room....and what better way to rib a man... than with his manhood.
Remember when Tony said “We would have been looked upon in today's society as some of the worst human beings walking the face of the Earth. I mean, we abused the hell out of women. All of us did. You know, they were like a toy for us”. You reap what you sow.
The Hulkster Rat?😄🤩😄🤩😄🤩
You can just hear Brian Last shaking his head during the middle of this segment.
Him defending literal harassment shows the kind of person he is he’s def got some issues
Brian should have edited Jim’s take on Patterson out. This is an awful look. There is no defense to what he did and to call it normal is disgusting.
Agreed. No idea, why he kept that in. Maybe as rage bait? I mean it spawned a lot of comments, which will delight the algorithm.
If you think Patterson touching a pecker as a rib is bad. Go listen to Cornette's story about what Dennis Condrey did to Phil Hickerson's mouth in a doubecross rib in Louisville.
Yeah that's what people don't understand, they hyperfocus on Pat but it was a culture of weirdos with no boundaries or morals that thought everything was a rib - not hard to see people in the business become institutionalised and adopt this as normal behaviour even though it's completely not, look at people laughing at Curt Hennig and Mr Fuji's ribs when they involved people getting beaten up and having pets killed.
The Steroid Trial, AKA Stephanie McMahon's 9/11.
Stephanie did a lot of PR training after that she didnt get heat because she's beauitful
There’s NO WAY only 78k ppl were there at WM3
A lot closer to 93k than 78k
Here come the marks complaining about being bored because they already spent countless hours marking out over this stuff for years
Commenting on a wrestling video and calling other fans marks in a derogatory way is markish behaviour in itself.
I cannot wait to hear how Jim reacts to Austin’s CTE comment or all that deflection they did on the Benoit tragedy. Hell Vince was pretty cold during the Owen segment of this series as well.
I don’t believe that Pat was innocent. He was Garvin & Phillips direct supervisor. The three of them were referred to as “The Cream Team.” Multiple wrestlers are on record saying Pat sexually harassed them (Atlas, Piper, Sid, Roma). And Tom Cole, a ring boy, directly named Pat in his initial lawsuit and only walked it back when Linda manipulated him into it.
Sorry Jim, you are dead wrong about Pat. And of course no one fought over it cuz like Atlas said, you tell Vince, you get fired.
Yes, Jim. Major foreign policy decisions should be put on hold for regional wrestling. If the Super Bowl isn't put on hold for war, neither will wrestling. And for those of you too young to remember or weren't around, the Gulf War was had a logical reason, nothing made up. Saddam Hussein/Iraq invaded Kuwait, and almost every nation on Earth was for some kind of action.
31:29 you’re wrong about this one Jim. It’s weird that you’re defending it. Stop.