Good video Todd. As my wheels are not coated I use Gyeon Wet Look, which just sprays on and rinse off. Then iIdry them with my BigBoi Midi. Cheers from Down Under
TIp: rinse your wheel brush with the pressure washer to remove dirt before you put it back in the bucket. Inside is the most dirt. Your wheels were arlready pretty neat when you started, so probably not a big issue here ;)
After using Iron Removers for years on wheels, I've now completely stopped (except using them twice a year; once at the beginning of spring, and once before winter). The active ingredient which is called Thioglycolic Acid, is far from pH neutral. In the bottle, it is pH neutral, but as soon as it reacts with iron in brake dust, it turns acidic. This causes TONS of corrosion on wheels, brake components, and suspension parts. I've personally seen it corrode various parts of my brakes over years of use. Using it as a wheel cleaner regularly will ruin the finish of various surfaces. Using a dedicated wheel cleaner such as P&S Brakebuster is the best option. I've been using it for a year now, and its hands down the best wheel cleaner I've ever used (works better on tires then products like Adams tire and rubber cleaner, and its cheap price makes it an outstanding option. I'm not affiliated with them in any way but just giving my thoughts from personal experience over the years.
We've been using this type of wheel cleaners both in the busy shop and personal cars for almost 10 years now, and have never seen any sign of corrosion / otherwise in the least bit.
I dunno, but I am happy with Meguiar's Wheel Brightener for the wheels and Optimum Power Clean (or Superclean) for the tires. The cleaners can be diluted to handle most of the car surfaces and under the hood. The Wheel Brightener also works well for the removal of light water spots. WB isn't that acidic for an "acidic" cleaner. It even smells pleasant. I conclude with a spray and wipe of Optimum Spray Wax to keeps things pretty.
This is how it's done!Every time i see a "spray on hose off "wheel cleaner i laugh a little.You gotta get down and dirty to keep them sparkling.Good vid!👌
As always it’s another great video and your tips on detailing helps beginner like me. It was nice meet and greet you at the shell gas station 😊 the other evening. Next time when you want a demo vehicle to work on a medium dirty vehicle please let me know I would stop by your office with my car 😁
The rims 😍 you’re damn right though clean wheels pop and stand out from the car especially if you have chrome/silver that contrasts to the colour of the car.
@Yorkiepoocharlie It lasts much longer than a week and then give them 2 sprays per wheel every time you wash your car. Cheaper and easier than anything 👍
Yeah, but they don't bend around corners, and you have to use different sized ones when dealing with large brakes. I / we used them years ago, but went back to this style because they were more versatile.
It's a fantastic wheel cleaner, AND body decontamination...best of both worlds. Brake types and whether or not the wheels / calipers are coated will dictate how often it needs to be used. Most German cars with no coating could stand it every single use.
Do all that, plus regular car wash of contaminants on paint, and get a EPA supersite designation. Plus lung disease and dried hands if you don’t use, now very expensive, nitrile gloves.
Probs would have been good to mention that you cannot use Gyeon Iron on carbon ceramic brakes 👍🏻 1) because CCB produce zero to no brake dust. And 2) CCB have open pores and iron will mess up the rotors = very expensive replacement !!!
Jeeez listen to some feedback guys from your customer demographic. Don’t need to challenge every bit of feedback. Enjoy the collaborative comments like this which are correct and extremely useful
Surprised that you did not address the cleaning of the wheel wells. In addition to the wheels and tires, I notice that wheel wells differentiate a great detailing job from others.
@@Esotericdetail thanks for the reply. I watched your videos on the sponge and it appears this is your media preference over mitts. Didn't realize this when I asked. I just got the quartz smoothie and really like it. Will check out the sponge for the wheels!
Hi Todd. After cleaning wheels the brake rotors usually develop a light amount of surface rust. It comes off on the first drive but then leaves rust dust on the wheels. Any suggestions?
Before drying the wheels and before the rotors rust, drive back and forth a couple times to dry the rotors, then dry the wheels as normal. Can use a rust preventer but that only stops one side rusting.
Hi Todd. Best wishes for the new year from the Netherlands 🇳🇱. Just discovered your channel. Great videos ! Question from a fellow Benz owner : what wheels are they ? Never seen that brand before. Compliments on the car, looking great.
Thanks for another great video. I really enjoy the At Home series. Would you have any special tips or tools that you would use on gloss black wheels to avoid scratching and getting that hazy look you often see on black wheels?
Can you explain the difference between a 1 step, an enhancement and AIO? What products would be considered such? I keep getting conflicting info online. I've seen some people use the sonax perfect finish as an enchantment and others as a one step. Thanks.
Yes, you can use the exact same combo. You might want to use the Iron every other wash though, as you shouldn't need as much cleaning power with the ceramics.
Thanks so much. My Gyeon wheel cleaner is in a black bottle-is that the same as the clear bottle? The name of the product is the same. I was quite worried because I think I respected the 1-2 min application time, but the break rotors on my Audi A1 were corroded after rinsing. It’s a new car. The rust cleaned up after a drive from breaking. I went back to this video and it seems you’re not super careful not to apply it to the break rotor. Is there any advice you might have? I wonder if you ship to Europe. Thanks a lot for your videos!
Gyeon iron is NOT a wheel cleaner specifically. It is a iron remover for the vehicle. Not just tires. You can use it obviously but it is not just a wheel cleaner. Words are very important
Do you think it would be overkill to take the wheels off one by one and clean them? Besides the hassle of rolling around a hydraulic Jack and taking out sockets and wrenches, I think it might be worth the extra few minutes that can potentially give you a better result in the final clean, right?
@@Esotericdetail yeah, definitely not every time! I was thinking more so just the first cleanse you do to a new customers car. I’ve done a bit more research and might consider going as far as taking them off and coating them!
Help! I followed exactly this process. Even using warm air to dry the wheel. My rotors rusted awful! I had to drive the car to remove the rust. Then remove each wheel to clean the barrels. What a mess and pain to do. This is on my Porsche GT3. I will never use Gyeon iron or wheel cleaner with iron again. What did I do wrong?
I guess it depends on your coating. I've tried "killing" my Kamikaze-coated wheels before with wheel cleaner like this, and the coating didn't skip a beat.
Nice video, thanks. Why do you say "wheel cleaner", "clean the wheel" at the beginning of the process, while you're using just an IRON remover (not wheel cleaner) ? This IRON remover from Gyeon is not equal to the Iron AND Wheel cleaner from Gyeon, which is another product.
Iron by itself does a great job as a wheel cleaner, and the entire world used it successfully for many years before Gyeon came out with their Wheel Cleaner with Iron. This video was also produced before that product was ever available. www.esotericcarcare.com/gyeon-q2m-wheel-cleaner/
@@joshtheld Same here, my hands got all chapped and cracked up because of the chemicals in detailing products. Doctors advise was to start wearing gloves
Hi Todd, 2:21 IF i lost my top cap on the wheel barrel brush (no idea how why or when, but it is). What would be the best idea to get something on there? I'd rather not rebuy something that's not even a year old. Currently i'm not even using it anymore so that also feels like a big waste. Thanks!
You have to decide how often you need to use Iron. If just soap and water cleans it, then you're fine. Use Iron as needed, and it won't "strip" the coating. Thanks.
What can be used to remove adhesive from the weights used to balance the tire ? I have several old adhesives on the insides of the barrels but I haven’t able to get them off
Can I use something like Gyeon Cure on my wheels instead of the Polish angel? Ie. What is the difference between spray coatings for car paint vs wheels?
It wouldn't work well for you. The difference is the ability to withstand the higher temperatures (and general abuse) that come from wheels and calipers.
how do you deal with the steel brakes that rust over as soon as they get wet? my m3 is so tough to do because when im done cleaning the wheel the rotors are completely orange and the next drive the wheels just got even dirtier then they were
Hi, Nice video, I enjoyed that. My car is currently in the process of being ceramic coated (paint, glass, wheels). Before, I used to use all sorts of products to clean the car, APC, iron remover etc. For the wheels (which will be coated too when I get it back next week), do I need to be careful now with what products (if any?) i use to prolong the life of the coating as much as possible? I'm unsure how I know what will be safe to use now. I use Bilt Hamber products which are quite strong so don't know if I shouldn't use those now or not and what I should try instead. Many thanks
@@Esotericdetail what if your pressure washer does not have auto off in between wheels ? Having issues with this , I take too long to scrub each one and the pressure washer goes crazy or it will end up drying on me I just bought your gallon sized iron wheel cleaner
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Good video Todd. As my wheels are not coated I use Gyeon Wet Look, which just sprays on and rinse off. Then iIdry them with my BigBoi Midi. Cheers from Down Under
TIp: rinse your wheel brush with the pressure washer to remove dirt before you put it back in the bucket. Inside is the most dirt. Your wheels were arlready pretty neat when you started, so probably not a big issue here ;)
I use my awesome Esoteric buckets for wash and rinse. Generic old bucket for tires and rims
Great tips and information
Gyeon products a amazing. I've used them for ten years great results
Thank you
After using Iron Removers for years on wheels, I've now completely stopped (except using them twice a year; once at the beginning of spring, and once before winter). The active ingredient which is called Thioglycolic Acid, is far from pH neutral. In the bottle, it is pH neutral, but as soon as it reacts with iron in brake dust, it turns acidic. This causes TONS of corrosion on wheels, brake components, and suspension parts. I've personally seen it corrode various parts of my brakes over years of use. Using it as a wheel cleaner regularly will ruin the finish of various surfaces.
Using a dedicated wheel cleaner such as P&S Brakebuster is the best option. I've been using it for a year now, and its hands down the best wheel cleaner I've ever used (works better on tires then products like Adams tire and rubber cleaner, and its cheap price makes it an outstanding option. I'm not affiliated with them in any way but just giving my thoughts from personal experience over the years.
We've been using this type of wheel cleaners both in the busy shop and personal cars for almost 10 years now, and have never seen any sign of corrosion / otherwise in the least bit.
@YorkiepoocharlieThe PH level of acids is below 7. Above 7 are alkaline products.
I use bilt hamber auto wheels, I find it very good, I will have to try the Gyeon stuff as I love their line of products.
next episode: how to clean your drive way after washing your wheels
😂 that’s exactly what I thought lol
EPA Supersite of contaminates.
Power washing your driveway is illegal in most places. Go figure.
@@bme7491Where is it illegal to power wash a drive way?
@@flicksifyr6793 California during a drought.
Top notch as usual.
I dunno, but I am happy with Meguiar's Wheel Brightener for the wheels and Optimum Power Clean (or Superclean) for the tires. The cleaners can be diluted to handle most of the car surfaces and under the hood. The Wheel Brightener also works well for the removal of light water spots. WB isn't that acidic for an "acidic" cleaner. It even smells pleasant.
I conclude with a spray and wipe of Optimum Spray Wax to keeps things pretty.
This is how it's done!Every time i see a "spray on hose off "wheel cleaner i laugh a little.You gotta get down and dirty to keep them sparkling.Good vid!👌
have you tried poor boys world wheel cleaner? you’ll be surprised
Good stuff. Thank you
These Wheels look Awesome on the GT C- Great Video !
Thanks, Kelvyn!
As always it’s another great video and your tips on detailing helps beginner like me. It was nice meet and greet you at the shell gas station 😊 the other evening.
Next time when you want a demo vehicle to work on a medium dirty vehicle please let me know I would stop by your office with my car 😁
Thanks, and thanks for getting my attention and saying hello at the gas station. #smallworld
The rims 😍 you’re damn right though clean wheels pop and stand out from the car especially if you have chrome/silver that contrasts to the colour of the car.
Gyeon Wet Coat works great on wheels and you get the inside of the wheels and the calipers as well !
It lasts until the next weekend wash easily.
@Yorkiepoocharlie It lasts much longer than a week and then give them 2 sprays per wheel every time you wash your car.
Cheaper and easier than anything 👍
Thank you.
You are welcome!
Hi Todd, again great vid. I much prefer a Wheel Woolie since they don't sling back like the rim brush. :)
Yeah, but they don't bend around corners, and you have to use different sized ones when dealing with large brakes. I / we used them years ago, but went back to this style because they were more versatile.
Feynlab wheel and tire cleaner is the best I’ve used and it’s one product to stock, not two.
But can you use it as a decontamination product for the body?
Any products of choice to prevent rust on the rotors? Another great entry in the series, thank you!
I use Hyde’s Serum Rustopper!
I had same issue and had to remove each wheel to clean the barrels again after driving.
Nice 👌 but Gyeon Iron surely isn’t a dedicated wheel cleaner ? and certainly not necessary to use every wash....
It's a fantastic wheel cleaner, AND body decontamination...best of both worlds. Brake types and whether or not the wheels / calipers are coated will dictate how often it needs to be used. Most German cars with no coating could stand it every single use.
Do all that, plus regular car wash of contaminants on paint, and get a EPA supersite designation. Plus lung disease and dried hands if you don’t use, now very expensive, nitrile gloves.
Probs would have been good to mention that you cannot use Gyeon Iron on carbon ceramic brakes 👍🏻 1) because CCB produce zero to no brake dust. And 2) CCB have open pores and iron will mess up the rotors = very expensive replacement !!!
We've been using it on carbon brakes for years, and on personal cars with carbon, with zero issues whatsoever.
@@Esotericdetail literally serves no purpose on wheels with CCB. And they are very porous rotors. They eventually crack! Look into it.
@@antonyv8171 If the manufacturer says it's safe, and we test is as safe, then we're good to go. If you don't want to use it, then that's fine.
Jeeez listen to some feedback guys from your customer demographic. Don’t need to challenge every bit of feedback. Enjoy the collaborative comments like this which are correct and extremely useful
Great video, think I'm gonna have to ask Santa for a Big Boi for Christmas. :P
They're such great tools. I couldn't imagine going back now that we've been using them regularly for the past couple of years.
I just bought one I dunno how I ever managed without it! 👍🏼
You could do what I have been doing for many years, use a garden blower.
Plenty of oomph, cheap and you can do the whole care in minutes.
@@WEDEL01 a garden blower isn’t filtered air which means it could be blowing small particles of dirt back onto the paintwork
@@WEDEL01 Heated, filtered air wins every time!
that car wrap tho! what color is that? thanks for the tutorial by the way
It's factory finish...Brilliant Blue Magno (matte). Thanks!
Surprised that you did not address the cleaning of the wheel wells. In addition to the wheels and tires, I notice that wheel wells differentiate a great detailing job from others.
That would be a video saved for a car that you can actually see the wheel wells!
Any reason not to use microfiber over the soft sponge? Thanks for the great content!
The sponge is made for the job, is ridiculously soft, and it only takes 1 to do the entire car.
@@Esotericdetail thanks for the reply. I watched your videos on the sponge and it appears this is your media preference over mitts. Didn't realize this when I asked. I just got the quartz smoothie and really like it. Will check out the sponge for the wheels!
Great Video! How do you deal with steel brake rust when washing wheels?
I would like to know advice as well
Hi Todd. After cleaning wheels the brake rotors usually develop a light amount of surface rust. It comes off on the first drive but then leaves rust dust on the wheels. Any suggestions?
Before drying the wheels and before the rotors rust, drive back and forth a couple times to dry the rotors, then dry the wheels as normal. Can use a rust preventer but that only stops one side rusting.
@Paul Attard Thanks Paul, nice to hear from a fellow Aussie.
@@Audittr2108 Hi Chris, thanks, that’s how I do it now too but thought Todd might have some other ideas.
P&s brake buster is a wheel cleaner and it dosen't affect the discs.
@@philgt3877 @Chris_Leslie225 provided the best reply!
Hi Todd. Best wishes for the new year from the Netherlands 🇳🇱. Just discovered your channel. Great videos ! Question from a fellow Benz owner : what wheels are they ? Never seen that brand before. Compliments on the car, looking great.
Thanks. Those are HRE wheels based out of California. They are the Rolex of wheel companies...
Will I need the primer before applying the cosmic spritz to my new Mercedes CLS-450
have a set of aftermarket gloss black wheels. how effective is gyron iron on them.? i keep them sealed pretty well oops asked too soon. great job
Thanks for another great video. I really enjoy the At Home series. Would you have any special tips or tools that you would use on gloss black wheels to avoid scratching and getting that hazy look you often see on black wheels?
Your answer...buy satin black wheels! :). Unfortunately it's unavoidable, really.
@@Esotericdetail Thank you.
Does it work on dirty wheels too?
Great video! One question: I just had new tires installed. What should I use to remove the residual glue from the old wheel balancing weights?
We like to use Gyeon Tar www.esotericcarcare.com/gyeon-q2m-tar/
Can you explain the difference between a 1 step, an enhancement and AIO? What products would be considered such? I keep getting conflicting info online. I've seen some people use the sonax perfect finish as an enchantment and others as a one step. Thanks.
when use this each time we wash the wheels or just once in fall and once after winter?
Great video. I have a GT C with the ceramic brake option. Would you recommend the same products on ceramic brakes?
Yes, you can use the exact same combo. You might want to use the Iron every other wash though, as you shouldn't need as much cleaning power with the ceramics.
Thanks so much. My Gyeon wheel cleaner is in a black bottle-is that the same as the clear bottle? The name of the product is the same.
I was quite worried because I think I respected the 1-2 min application time, but the break rotors on my Audi A1 were corroded after rinsing. It’s a new car. The rust cleaned up after a drive from breaking. I went back to this video and it seems you’re not super careful not to apply it to the break rotor. Is there any advice you might have?
I wonder if you ship to Europe.
Thanks a lot for your videos!
Why you don't use wheel woolies like Larry from AMMO NYC. The wheel brush may scratch the wheels
Gyeon iron is NOT a wheel cleaner specifically. It is a iron remover for the vehicle. Not just tires. You can use it obviously but it is not just a wheel cleaner. Words are very important
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You forgot the very important comfortable mini stool to sit on while caressing the wheels ! 😄
Do you think it would be overkill to take the wheels off one by one and clean them? Besides the hassle of rolling around a hydraulic Jack and taking out sockets and wrenches, I think it might be worth the extra few minutes that can potentially give you a better result in the final clean, right?
Once or twice a year maybe, otherwise, a waste of time.
@@Esotericdetail yeah, definitely not every time! I was thinking more so just the first cleanse you do to a new customers car. I’ve done a bit more research and might consider going as far as taking them off and coating them!
tire shine gel or spray what do you use.
Thanks for the tips. I found a great wool wheel brush on Amazon that works great on my Maserati GranTurmiso. Any recommendations on a wheel degreaser?
Here you go: www.esotericcarcare.com/gyeon-q2m-iron/
Help! I followed exactly this process. Even using warm air to dry the wheel. My rotors rusted awful! I had to drive the car to remove the rust. Then remove each wheel to clean the barrels. What a mess and pain to do. This is on my Porsche GT3. I will never use Gyeon iron or wheel cleaner with iron again. What did I do wrong?
That's pretty common when doing any kind of cleaning with steel rotors.
Todd, I have ceramic coated wheels, does the iron cleaner not affect the coating?
I guess it depends on your coating. I've tried "killing" my Kamikaze-coated wheels before with wheel cleaner like this, and the coating didn't skip a beat.
Is the product you used in the foam cannon also Gyeon Bathe?
Correct.
Nice video, thanks. Why do you say "wheel cleaner", "clean the wheel" at the beginning of the process, while you're using just an IRON remover (not wheel cleaner) ? This IRON remover from Gyeon is not equal to the Iron AND Wheel cleaner from Gyeon, which is another product.
Iron by itself does a great job as a wheel cleaner, and the entire world used it successfully for many years before Gyeon came out with their Wheel Cleaner with Iron. This video was also produced before that product was ever available. www.esotericcarcare.com/gyeon-q2m-wheel-cleaner/
Perfect, but please wear gloves next time ;) Especially when cleaning wheels.
Why if you're using safe products?
@@adblf Because there is asbestos in the brake pads and their dust.
I started wearing gloves while detailing my car because some of the chemicals I use can dry my hands out.
@@joshtheld Same here, my hands got all chapped and cracked up because of the chemicals in detailing products. Doctors advise was to start wearing gloves
Is the reason you don't have a recommendation for the tyre brush is the fact that it's a $5 one from China?
Nope...that wouldn't affect my decision in the least bit.
I hate when I get iron and wheel gunk sprayed on my arms when I use wheel brushes.
Iron left yellow spots on my wheels...
Using only shampoo from now on
Hi Todd, 2:21 IF i lost my top cap on the wheel barrel brush (no idea how why or when, but it is). What would be the best idea to get something on there? I'd rather not rebuy something that's not even a year old. Currently i'm not even using it anymore so that also feels like a big waste. Thanks!
Maybe look around in a hardware store for a solution?
My wheels are protected with Geyon RIM. How frequent I have to use Iron? Every wash? I have a German car. And won’t iron strip the coat sooner?
You have to decide how often you need to use Iron. If just soap and water cleans it, then you're fine. Use Iron as needed, and it won't "strip" the coating. Thanks.
What can be used to remove adhesive from the weights used to balance the tire ? I have several old adhesives on the insides of the barrels but I haven’t able to get them off
Adhesive remover, a plastic razor blade, and lots of patience!
My OCD was flairing up here...the bucket and power washer were laying in the Iron-X flood😮
😬🤣🤣He's trying to keep moving/talking for the vid but yeah,thats funny!
Can I use something like Gyeon Cure on my wheels instead of the Polish angel? Ie. What is the difference between spray coatings for car paint vs wheels?
It wouldn't work well for you. The difference is the ability to withstand the higher temperatures (and general abuse) that come from wheels and calipers.
What's the point in drying the wheels when you then have to wash the car after?
You wouldn't...use the blow dryer as part of the entire wash with the wheels at the same time.
how do you deal with the steel brakes that rust over as soon as they get wet? my m3 is so tough to do because when im done cleaning the wheel the rotors are completely orange and the next drive the wheels just got even dirtier then they were
Just read through some of the other comments and suggestions on here!
Hi,
Nice video, I enjoyed that. My car is currently in the process of being ceramic coated (paint, glass, wheels). Before, I used to use all sorts of products to clean the car, APC, iron remover etc. For the wheels (which will be coated too when I get it back next week), do I need to be careful now with what products (if any?) i use to prolong the life of the coating as much as possible? I'm unsure how I know what will be safe to use now. I use Bilt Hamber products which are quite strong so don't know if I shouldn't use those now or not and what I should try instead.
Many thanks
Just use a pH neutral cleaner like this and you should be fine.
@@Esotericdetail Ok thank you. Does pH neutral in general mean it's ceramic coat friendly?
How to wash wheel. Wet microfibre, wipe wheel. Done.
Maybe it’s that method that lead you to this video?
That's one way. Not a good or safe way by any means, but...
Is it ok to use leaf blower to dry your car? If it's ok, are there any concerns on using one?
Filtered air is the key...
Bathe diluition? ;)
If you're asking for a foam cannon application, then roughly 1 part Bathe to 5 parts water.
Is 40 minutes ish, isint alot of time to clean all four wheels?
If you have a cheap car yes but if you have an classic enthusiasts car then it’s a hobby
To get them really clean, using this method, it should take you about 15 minutes.
I washed all 4 rims shorter than the duration of this video..
So can I...when I'm not talking.
Do you shut off the water and pressure washer between wheels or leave it all on?
It depends on the pressure washer! For the one I'm using, it has auto on/off so I don't need to worry about it.
@@Esotericdetail for Gyeon bathe how do you dilute it to put in the pf22 foam cannon?
@@jjjjjjjjjjjhjjjjjhjj 1 part Bathe, 5 parts water.
@@Esotericdetail what if your pressure washer does not have auto off in between wheels ? Having issues with this , I take too long to scrub each one and the pressure washer goes crazy or it will end up drying on me
I just bought your gallon sized iron wheel cleaner
@@jjjjjjjjjjjhjjjjjhjj Then you have frequent trips back and forth to constantly turn the machine on and off...
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