I'm working on lots of new theories of course so see you on the 20th or maybe just fractionally before ;) Hope you are all enjoying the game like I am!
so Toby I got to ask what Pokemon did you use on your team for Pokemon legends Arceus I used Samurott Wyrdeer Kleavor Tortera Goondra Palkia/Dialga I havent chosen which one yet
I hope you enjoyed the game. Also the sound the flute makes is the same as the game freak sound in the opening of diamond, pearl, and platinum. Fun little detail I realized when I play the game.
i also just realized, All the ridable lords from the Diamond clan are able to utilize the dash button but the ones from the Pearl clan do not. because they value their time so much!
Not really an Easter egg because it's stated outright, but the ending confirms that the Arceus we catch and carry around is not actually Arceus's true self but a proxy/ avatar of Arceus that allows the player to use a portion of its power. This settles the whole "10 year old catches God in a ball" controversy.
@@IOwnKazakhstan in gnostic mysticism, a weird branch of Medieval Christianity, God is the collective memory of all mankind; so God is “captured” by all humans capable of conscious thought. In that belief our existence is a mimicry of the essence of God. Not only do we control God, but we are becoming it.
A lot of Pokémon have very unique behaviours in this game, as an example blissey will normally attack or run however if your injured they're completely passive and actually follow you.
Apparently in Japanese, Kamado's accent that breaks through at the end is Kansai dialect, which could suggest that he's actually from Johto, which is the pokemon world equivalent of the Kansai region. I've seen some people say specifically that he could be from Mahogany town, since Mahogany is called a ninja retreat, which would explain Beni, and it's near the Lake of Rage, which could have been where the pokemon that destroyed his home came from.
It would honestly also make sense in his clothing. If he were from Galar he would probably wear clothes more akin to Laventon and not something that is clearly more traditional. Maybe he travelled to Galar before and acquired the Armor that way. Maybe it was a gift to him being a foreign diplomat.
@@AzureKite In the picture we see from him and his wife both are wearing a more western (galarian) style of clothing. With his suit and her dress. What if his wife had been from Galar and the armor was a sort of gift or something he bought when visiting?
@@lurkingone7079 But he also mentions the Darkest Day from Sword and Shield. Maybe his ancestry is from Johto and the family moved to Galar afterwards. His ties to Galar ars stronger to me though: besides he stating about the armor, there's also the Galarian Weezing in the Galaxy Team building (which the constructio were probably overseen by Kamado).
I gotta say, the Beni and Koga thing is just a coincidence. There's always been ninjas in pokemon, not just Koga and Janine. Also, Palina's goggles are for diving for pearls, as she's based off of japanese women who would do pearl diving.
@@alfredorivapalacioirigoyen8068 I had a feeling from the start that he was the Striaton triplets' ancestor, due to him cooking and having the green hair and 3 spiked beard, plus his ninja outfit also having blue straps and a red vest underneath, but I feel like that's mostly coincidence since he's supposed to be an inverted ninja. Plus, Unova isn't known for its "better weather". Hoenn and Alola are though, and most ancestors don't do anything their descendants do. Candice isn't a thief, Karen isn't security, Rowan isn't a commander or leader, etc
I think the most interesting fact of Laventon mentioning that the Pokémon’s “natural” ability to shrink makes me think that Eternatus and Gigantamax energy is some how a reversal of that same natural phenomenon
one of my favorite easter eggs is in the Coronet Highlands; at the base of one of the waterfalls, there are Magikarp, and at the top, only Gyarados, which is a reference to an old myth of how fish who could climb up waterfalls would turn into dragons
69. Snow goggles aren't to keep snow out of your eyes, though they can help with that too. The narrow slits prevent snow blindness, where sunlight reflecting off snow makes it hard to see. If you pay attention to what the NPC is saying, you can clearly tell that the DIVING goggles of Palina wouldn't do anything to prevent this. Also, Palina's goggles are to help her swim from island to island because she's ostensibly not allowed to use Basculegion.
There's also a side quest that has you investigating a drifloon playing with children and when you come upon them the kid screams for help because the drifloon won't let go. In modern pokedex entries it's stated they would carry children off. You literally catch one in the act and save the kid.
The fact the kid states he and the other children are friends with the drifloom and have been playing with them for many moons makes the implications so much more disturbing
Its also the same thing with froslass as you find out about it leading people to their doom though sidequests refferencing its pokedex entries in later dexs
@@Deepseashark Well froslass is based on the yuki oona(snow woman) myths and drifloon is obviously based on the same yokai that the soul piper in inuyasha was
The drifloon are never strong enough to carry anyone away. I forget which dex entry said so but i remember one mentioning that. It could never really lift any children. It is just a balloon and string
Given that Sinoh's real life counterpart is Hokkaido, and Hokkaido was not incorporated to Japan until the Meiji restauration sent settlers to it along with foreigners (led by an American actually) in the Hokkaido Development Commission (real life equivalent of the Galactic Expedition), it would make sense that the game is taking place around 156 years or so before the present.
1000% it’s definitely 19th century, the game states it’s been 2 years since the village was founded so we are partly into the restoration but before it was named Hokkaido
The narration for the reveal trailer says that this game's story is a tale from a long, long time ago. While definitely based on that time period, I don't think 156 years is nearly enough time for the people of modern Sinnoh to not know their region was once called Hisui or to not have knowledge about the events that took place during this game. It would be one thing if this game had an event towards the end that gives a reason for such a thing, but that isn't the case. Rowan is 60 years old. He likely would have heard stories about the things that happened in this game by his grandfather or great-grandfather.
@@777Roxen how do you know that the people really have forgotten these things and not that it is just never brought up? Do people always talk about the things their grand-grandparents did or something?
After you beat the game, talk to Sanqua and she’ll ask what your interpretation of the time space rift before you closed it. Whatever you pick Sanqua decides to make a painting of it. You never see the results but she describes what happened when Spear Pillar blew up. That painting she makes I’m pretty sure is the same one you see in the church in Hearthhome City.
11:04 I can 1-up the detail on Vessa: when she's giving you the quest, she says there's 107 spirits to find, while in every other title so far, the Pokedex always mentioned it's 108 spirits.
She’s actually not possessed by Spirit Tomb; she is actually one of the spirits that should be locked inside the odd keystone. Thus making her the 108’th spirit
also on the wiki hisuian typloshion (i dont know how to spell it) attacks with 108 spirits i think its the wiki idk i know its some official pokemon website
1:41 This is porbably also mentioned later in this video but if not, after the sidequest where you catch a Crogunk so it's poison can be used for medicial purposes you can find the person you helped around the village (I specifically saw them behind the training ground building) where they then talk about making a wooden statue of Crogunk as thanks.
I'm nearly certain that Kamado's story with his wife is he lost her in the fire of his old town. He decided to leave that all behind by going to a new land, which the Diamond and Pearl clans called Hisui. There he wanted to keep everyone safe from the dangers of wild pokemon and therefor he was blinded by that and tried taking matters into his own hands.
They talk about kanto and there was an important fire involving the legendary dogs. I believe his family may have lived or been at the temple and lost them in the ho-oh fire
Based on Cameras existing and the whole "Expedition to Hokkaido/Hisui" thing, Legends Arceus took place around the time that Brass Tower burned. So, add that to the pile. His 'accent' seems more Kansai(The region Johto is based on) than Galarian as well.
Dude I get this now the fire of the tower were the Pokémon perished maybe it is connected to Kamado’s story that explaines a lot. I also think we are the old hero mainly cause you see all them statues and brake which would explain them being ruins in bdsp I mean sometimes in time travel movies and shows/games the person that travels back in time i mean we went far back into the past so maybe we are the hero just starting out
I like to see people ignoring the normal ass NPC in town that says that dispite Kamado being the Team Galaxy leader he has a wife and kid waiting for him to come home, implying that she and the kid beside her are those people in favor of making a big scene about a normal family photo in his desk...
I would believe after the two clans reconcile with each other, both of them built Eterna City next to the Summit Camp (which is where those broken statues are). This will make the fused statue a lot more sense because they wanted to make a statue that both clans can worship at the same time. Funny enough although Eturna City got the name from its long history, this means the history of Eterna City isn't actually that long. Possibly they gave this name for hoping this city with the statue could live a long history in the future.
This comment needs more attention. I want to note that is this is true, the two clans are meeting in the area between their two settlements. They are literally meeting in the middle.
@@mmyr8ado.360 Obviously they got married, it's just not obvious enough who is their descendant. They could literally split Cynthia into a male and a female character presenting different halves of her, but couldn't do this with Iscan and Paulina. Very weird.
@@hhjan594 Jokes aside, what I mean is if there's going to be a unification of the clans, marriage between the most prominent members of each clan would have to happen. Speaking of Volo, if there's going to be DLC with him in it, I'd like to think the Lake trio would intervene this time.
Also upon getting the shiny charm there is a cutscene that plays out where Kamado says he will study under the professor to learn more about Pokemon and will let Cylene take charge
And before that, there's another scene with Kamado and Cyllene again where they discuss the origin of the name of the Galaxy Expidition Team, and how Cyllene will keep the name and history of the team alive through her descendants.
The Galarian Weezing actually makes a lot of sense if you consider when the game takes place! The Industrial Revolution occurred in the early 1800s, and if this one is based off of Japan's takeover of the Hokkaido region, that occurred in 1869. So Galarian Weezing would have shown up only a few decades before this venture
I like the idea of reincarnation, especially given Volo's parting words. I won't spoil anything, but the idea that spiritual connections span lifetimes and even possible alternate realities and the idea that some events are just meant to happen across time and space seems very interesting to think about.
One point that wasn't elaborated on further was the names of both Volo and Cogita. Cogita is a play on the phrase "Cogito ergo sum" ("I think, therefore I am"), which is befitting for someone who is the keeper of knowledge. Volo's name means desire in latin, which also reflects his role in the story. Cogita is most obviously the direct ancestor to Cynthia.
@@twilitlloyd7167 Volo says he is directly descended from the ancient hisuian people like Cogita. So they share a common ancestory but are possibly not closely related. I think they are saying that it’s more obvious that Cynthia is directly descended from Cogita given her position and knowledge.
I feel like Cogita, as the keeper of "knowledge", while Volo is the "desire", there is a vacant of "feelings" as if these three represents the three lake guardians.
Cogita is more likely to be directly related with Cynthia is because she is the Celestica people living in the Ancient Retreats (which becomes Celestic Town in the modern days). From the Sinnoh games, we know Cynthia's family lived in this very town for ages and they were passing down the Sinnoh myths, and we even meet Cynthia's Grandmother in the game for this. All of this totally matches up with how and what Cogita is in this game. Volo on the other hand does not seem to be in a relationship with Cogita, it looks like Cogita is one of Volo's elder relatives that happens to take the duty of passing down the Sinnoh myths.
Regarding the Croagunk statue, the man who was healed by the medicine made from Croagunk Poison, will later on say he will make a wood carving statue of Croagunk, referring to the mysterious wood statues seen in DPP games
When you were mentioning how Jubilife is Canalave and the modern Jubilife is a relocation I remembered an NPC in Jubilife saying some of the corps had gone to establish another village in the Obsidian Fieldlands area which would be closer to Jubilifes actual spot in modern daya possibly meaning the NPC is actually officially hinting that as ypu said, the new established area is where Jubilife city in modern day ends up being??
Finding Tao Hua's decendant is actually really simple. His granddaughter married Choy. Therefore, if Choy is Charon's ancestor, Tao Hua probably is as well.
I think Iridia is wearing swimming goggles since she talks about traveling on the ocean. You can find actual snow goggles in the clothing shop later on, and they look like traditional Inuit snow goggles.
It's also very similar in shape and style to what Japanese pearl divers would wear when diving for pearls. They're also a group of all women. So Palina's design is directly inspired by and a reference to Japanese pearl divers. Edit: Palina not Iridia
Kinda late but I believe you mixed up Palina with Iridia. Iridia is the leader of the Pearl clan and Palina is the Lord that watches over Archanine. Now back to the topic at hand, couldn't Palinas goggles be diving goggles instead of snow goggles being that well, she lives by the ocean? Edit: messed up and put Paula instead of Palina
A clever nod in the Cobalt Coastlands that I haven't seen anyone else mention: at Deadwood Haunt there's a few shipwrecked boats, around the same place where the Sunyshore Lighthouse will be.
I'd like to add to this that there is a spot on the shore named Ginkgo Landing nearby. Maybe the merchants of Ginkgo guild (or their earlier generation taken how weathered the ships look) have traveled to Hisui by sea from another region.
something i think that’s really cool is that, during the time when all hell is broken loose and there sky is colored red green and blue, the load up screen for arceus (the menu you first see after booting the game up from the switch’s home menu) has the red green blue sky too. it’s a SUPER cool detail and there’s also no music playing-it’s so ominous and spooky
There's sketchings on the walls in every Lord/Lady pokemon's arena & while it may not be a code it IS interesting that they depict all sorts of legendary pokemon like the lake spirits & even Arceus itself (and also certain ride pokemom like sneasler), also fun fact that the potato mochi is a Hokkaido specialty & that Hisuian Zoroak COULD be a reference to the wolves that used to be native to Japan until hunter traps wiped them all out
They kind of are! Japan used to have a large population of wolves from Hokkaido down to Iwate, but once expansion started, the wolves were either hunted to extinction, or the ones remaining ran back to Russia through Sakhalin Island. Sakhalin Russians share ancestry with Ainu, Norther Chinese, and Norther Korean indigenous tribes!
The fact that in a certain Sidequest, the Driftlon just does not want the child to leave and the fear people have of Pokemon might be the origin of the "Driftlon abducts children" myth.
It would have been neat if zoroark was used to reference that but since it's referenced in game as the baneful Fox multiple times I don't think that's the case
@@evelinepotter4551 I highly doubt it, there probably be is more evidence that came after this game, because we would then need to find a reason for why the games say it hates fat kids, and the fact Pokédex’s from even other regions say it brings children to the afterlife.
tao hua possibly has more than one descendant. after you finish all of choy’s requests it’s revealed that choy is married to tao hua’s granddaughter making both him and choy chiron’s ancestors. however, his design would suggest another possible descendant so maybe somewhere along the way his line split off even further.
I have one, if you look at origin form dialga and palkia, the things on their waists can be combined to make Aceus' ring, showing how they are both a part of him
I feel like irdia is actually May’s ancestor, their faces are very similar and I remember the first time I saw her, my first thought was that she looks like may even her head gear looks like May’s
9:14 Marley, Cheryl, Mira, Buck and Riley form their own exclusive club called the Stat Trainers. They specialize in a single stat rather than a single type, save for Buck who specializes in both Defences. These are trainers whom are allowed in the Battleground club and are treated as being on the level of Gym Leaders. In fact, Riley, even with 5 Pokémon, stands a likely chance at dethroning Cynthia; a better chance than any other Sinnohnian trainer, at least.
Small thing I found interesting knowing some Chinese, Zisu is actually the Chinese word/phrase for 'technique', making it very easy to remember who the move tutor is. Chinese and Japanese do share certain words and characters so there's that.
I heard a theory Canalave and Jubilife were once one city, the river expanded causing them to become 2. this is interesting because very clearly Snowpoint also seems to have flood, because it had access to the sea which it doesn't in this game. however if the region flooded the waterfalls would no longer be there and instead we would see a river flowing to the river
Honestly I feel it is clearly implied that the commander's partner is dead and got killed by rampaging pokemon in the past. I believe that the commander and his "problemsolver", that was the best plot twist in my opinion, are the last of an ancient tribe that lived in the Hisui-Region even before the ancestors of the two clans arrived. The region was clearly settled long before as the ruins suggest. When you interact with the statues in the highlands there is the question "but who built them?", I believe this also fits the character of the commander and gives a good and compelling motivation for his actions when he clads himself in steel and literaly walks to war to kill whatever pokemon is at the tempel causing the rift. It is clearly stated, that the commander and the mochi maker are the last of there people that got destroyed by pokemon. This is the reason why the commander wants to build a new and save place for the people. Also the place of their origin has the same name as one of the ruins in the highlands map. This would also explain why the armour he wears seams to be a combination of japanese and european design inspiration. Compared to the other leaders of the Expedition he is also the only one with a clear japanese inspired background and name. The professor is strait up a person of galarian (english) background as he is speaking english in the japanese and german game versions. I started today with my japanese playthrough of the game after I finished in german and I have to say some parts in the english translation are very different then the original japanese and also the german translation which I think are interesting. In the original and the german translation the "Nobles" are called Kings and Queens specificly. Now that I have this fancy TH-cam-thingy I leave a sub and maybe I will sometimes offer translations in the comments; at least someplace where my Japanese Studies come in handy
@@Justic_ Western clothing was very popular in the main island of Japan in the era the game likely takes place. That said, he says that he and Beni come from another region. So he's not from Hisui for sure.
Kamado specifically mentions that he is donning traditional galarian armor if you rematch him in the Jubilife dojo, so it is highly likely he is from the Galar region, just like Laventon.
@@Justic_ not really a valid argument as it is stated that kamado travelled to hisui and beni followed alongside him as his righthand man, Beni also stated that both he and kamado came from the same village together This could potentially tie a few things together being that Wikstrom, Kamado, and Beni could possibly be originally from the Galar region and maybe strengthen the idea that it was Galar that Kalos was at war with which would obviously have been inspired by England and France's history.
@@XjerichoX12 It is a valid argument when you consider the accent folks are calling "Galarian" doesn't sound Galarian, and is more akin to a localized Kansai(Region of Japan Johto is bassed on) accent. Only a Japanese player would be able to answer that though. And the armor being imported 100% makes sense, since Japanese armor of the time was nowhere near as strong as European armor, his fears towards pokemon would have spurred him to have a suit custom made, note how he still carries Japanese style crests on the back. The games also take place during a time period where trade with the British was picking up.
Volo is the ancestor of Cynthia AND Lusamine. Sure, you see the necklace and blonde hair, and think of Cynthia because Hisui & Sinnoh. But the big twist, the hair covering one eye, and even his revealed palette are Lusamine. (Lusamine and Cynthia even share similar, if not identical poses.) Which just goes to show that Gladion and Lillie have always been related to villains AND heroes.
@@dragonmasterxyz3544 Cyrus did the same thing, sure Except that's in character for this family. Cyrus summons 1 Legendary, which gets nullified by the Lake Trio. (DP//BDSP) Cyrus summons both Legendaries, which can't be nullified by the Lake Trio, which summons Giratina. (PT) Volo summons Giratina. (L:A) Lusamine summons all the Ultra Beasts using Cosmog's Portal-Abilities. (SM) You can't just ignore Volo and Lusamine's similarities.
@@gabriellockwood2780 I am not ignoring the possibility of them being related. In fact I believe that Volo is not only an ancestor to Cynthia, but Lusamine. But the whole "they Summon otherworldly entities" =/= mean they are blood related and is more coincidental and less concrete as once again, this connection has to first assume they are related to say that this is a common point relative to the family when it takes less assumptions to assume that they are 3 different people who are Summoning otherworldly entities. It's by far the weakest connection here as this connection would therefore connect Volo and Cyrus when other than that they have no connection. Fortunately they have somewhat similar elements in design, but once again this is still not the strongest connection compared to the blatant Cynthia ancestry.
I also really appreciate the nods and references to the first Mystery Dungeon game. The hero that falls into a new world with (maybe) memory loss, the way the story is structured, the familiar plot elements that gave me MAJOR deja-vu feelings especially towards the end of the game. And also concerning Gardevoir, who has a big role in the first MD game, whereit literally sacrificed itself to protect its trainer from Ninetale's curse. That was a fascinating story in itself.
8:22 Given that Kamado and Beni came to Hisui to essentially begin a new life after their hometown in another region was ravaged by a Pokémon, and that their goal is to create a place where humans can live free of fear of Pokémon, i think its a safe bet that his wife died in the town that was destroyed.
I feel like Iscan could be an ancestor to Marlon, but that really only comes from the idea of Iscan being the caretaker of Basculegion, and Basculin being a Pokémon common in Unova.
I'm excited for future legends games. I love and still enjoying PLA even though I've beaten the main story. There's lots of things they can improve on, PLA is somewhat considered a "baby" or trial game before the next one comes along in the future
Yeah plus it can also retcon and explain a lot more lore in different regions. Imagine being able to witness Johto's 3 great beasts arise from the ashes of the tower, or explanations to regileli and regidrago in a knights of the round table style galar during an age of kings and clans
I want a Legends Unova game based on the American Civil War--it'd be perfect. Not only because of the whole dichotomy with truth and ideals and the legendaries and stuff, but also if they continue to take historical inspiration with these games this would be smackdab in the middle of the colonization of western America. Imagine Red Dead Redemption but Pokémon. That'd be sick. Although considering how this game turned out...I'd rather wait till GameFreak sharpens their skills before Legends Unova. Well, assuming they sharpen them at all--seems the devs are still as bad at optimization as they were in the development of gen 2! 😅
I think one thing ossibly discounted in this is characters that are also specifically referrences to characters that only appear in the anime. One that was like a bucket of ice water to the face for me was that Melli is 900% the ancestor of Team Rocket's very own James. Mannerisms and style both match.
oh my god i can't believe i never saw it before. this bugged the hell out of me that i couldn't place him but that fits really very well (to me) now that you say that
biggest easter egg you missed is from one of the Old Verses! so it's a bit of a spoiler if you want to discover them all for yourself, but Old Verse 12 explicitly mentions Sinjoh: "Wintry... Austere... Brimming with strange power... Certainly the land of Hisui bears some resemblance to Sinjoh. Here, where the ancient Sinnoh people were born, I will spend an eternity... until the one with the mission appears." SUPER fascinated by this, and it really makes me wonder who wrote the old verses, since their description says it's all the same author - the ancient hero? is cogita immortal? would love a theory on this! (also, Old Verse 5 talks about the ancient Celestica people and their disappearance, which is fascinating, and... really makes me even more curious about Cogita). Anyway, sorry for the super long comment, I've just been so excited to hear your theories and thoughts about the game!
Sword and Shield's entrees actually mention Copperajah came from a far off region to Galar a long time ago, so that could mean Laventon is actually from Copperajah's home region originally, and just studied in Galar. Possibly references Britain's control over India during the same time period that Legends seems to align with(1800s)
Also, in FR/LG, Raichu's Pokédex entry said that he could KO an Indian elephant, Copperajah isn't from Galar, so Copperajah could be the Indian elephant.
@@regalseagull To the first one no, I'm just a history nerd. And to the second one, that is pretty much already accepted. The thing is that in the point in real world history that inspired legends Arceus, the Meiji Restoration, Great Britain would have already been in India for a long time. In the context of the Pokemon world, it would be enough time for pokemon like copparajah to become part of Galar alongside curry, which did happen in the real world. Meaning, him saying copparajah from my home region doesn't mean he is from the Pokemon version of India. Especially with his very British mannerisms and how he speaks. In all languages he shown speaking English in occasions and in English he says very British sayings. Just because he has dark completion doesn't mean he is not Galarian.
I really hope you talk about the relationship of Cogita and Enamorus. Cogita makes a comment after you capture Enamorus implying that she will outlive the protagonist and how Enamorus will eventually return to her. Idk what she means by this but it feels super interesting to explore
@@miles6492 I don't think so. It could just be his desperation. If he were truly immortal, that would mean he was Cynthia--and considering Cynthia and Volo's different behaviors, I think we can both agree that is not the case.
That was so sweet that you paused to thank those still watching :) I love looking for Easter Eggs too, and I think I’ll keep finding animal comparisons to make as well! I need to check out your tree of life videos!
Finally, someone recognized the floor design seen during the Arceus encounter (#112) at the end of the game as the same one from the Arceus event from HG/SS!
The forces of nature therian forms are based on the Chinese sacred beasts (4 symbols). The Japanese have different names for them. Tornadus-Suzaku Thunderus-Seiryu Landorus-Byakko Enamorus-Genbu
I saw something interesting while going through the Tidal cave! There's some drawings, which at first appeared like UNKNOWN characters but it turns out to be mini drawings of some other known legends! I just thought it was pretty interesting and wanted to share!
I found a super cool Easter egg in the game just this morning. The movie The Rise of Darkrai has a character named Baron Alberto who has a Lickilicky, and if you challenge the Path of Solitude with Darkrai, the opponent Ingo chooses for you is a Lickilicky. I understood the reference as soon as I saw what Pokémon Ingo chose for me to fight.
I must say, that after playing legends arceus, I'm even more on Lockstin's side about the time frame of the game. The whole architecture and even the clothing resembles, what you can find about Japan around 1850 to 1900. It'd make sense, that there are other Pokédexes as well, ride pokémon are already used in Alola. Spiritombs "hundreds of years" would make sense as well, if its just 150-200 years back from today. The story framework is a colonization effort and learning about "zoology". There are no "farm animal" pokémon around like miltank, tauros or mareep, who should already be domesticated on the main land. Also we get a Petitlil to craft a known remedy for the psyduck. I do not really see a reason to say it is way earlier... We can buy dress suits and "modern" shoes for arceus sake.
Yeah, and the stuff that's modeled on the more Western style looks like it's from the late 19th century. Probably near or during the second Industrial Revolution (even though it obviously hadn't made it to Hisui yet) because the Galarian Weezing on the headquarters is based off the smokestacks from old coal plants.
Given the level of technology and the slowly improving relations of the Diamond and Pearl Clans, and the Galaxy Team, I feel confident that the game takes place in the early to mid 1800s. Allow me to explain: Photography as we know it today got its start in 1839, and barring Professor Laventon's steampunk Kodak, the photographic technology lines up well. The Galaxy Team also appears to use electric lighting, albeit an early iteration of it. I also believe that gunpowder had been invented, due to the firework shot that fires out of Pokeballs to signify a Pokemon having been caught. Maybe guns just don't work well on Pokemon. Finally, we have the aftermath of the events of the game. Since the Temple of Sinnoh was destroyed, and we as the player discovered that no entity known as Sinnoh exists (instead being Arceus, then Dialga and Palkia), the Diamond and Pearl Clans, with the Galaxy Team, decided to rename the Hisui Region as the Sinnoh Region, and to rename the ruins of Sinnoh's temple to Spear Pillar after the events of the game. This would reflect Hokkaido's renaming, which happened in 1869.
33:00 Copperajah sword Pokédex entry: “They came over from another region long ago and worked together with humans. Their green skin is resistant to water.” That means that the professor isn’t from galar but rather this region we have yet to explore in the games.
@@BirdKeeperToby honestly yeah there is a lot to suggest professor Laventon is from galar. Still he could be from this Copperajah home region and I hope we see it someday!
My theory is that Iscan, Palina, and possibly Calaba will be the ancestors of characters we'll meet in Gen 9. It would explain why their resemblance to existing characters is so fuzzy compared to the other wardens.
@@Ajzan1 No. They're just not. Stop trying to make original characters fit as ancestors, They're very obviously not. All the ancestor characters are made very obvious, usually by having the same hairstyle. Those three do not.
It’s so hard watching the community run around frantically trying to figure out who’s an ancestor of who when I doubt all of them even have ancestors/descendants. People are trying to justify it by “that’s the point of worldbuilding” but it’s very possible some of these characters just died and never got descendants
I feel like some of the ancestor connectons you mention are real stretches. While there are certainly ones I thought of that you didn't agree with, not every character has to have a connection to a modern day counterpart. It's probably better that way, even. I don't think Mellie, Calaba or Adaman, for example, are really related to anyone we know.
I think that there’s a lot of characters without descendants and that people just took the “oh these people are obviously descended from ___• as a “oh everybody is an ancestor”
I think Spitiromb request is one of the best. The message is that, inside the Odd Keystone, one of the 108 spirits broke the seal. That one spirit, Vessa, searched for the player to help her collect them all, which could've been done by herself too but she still had that single wish to play with someone before getting sealed again. We can finally get to sorta know a bit one of the 108 spirits thanks to this request, who happens to be just the spirit of a girl. This request also reveals how lonely some of those spirits probably feel inside the Odd Keystone.
I personally think that Volo isn't Cynthia's ancestor I think, that it's Lusamine Both Lusamine and Volo tried summoning creatures from other dimensions!
32:19 I've been wanting an Africa region for a while. The culture has so many myths and legends that would make such interesting legendaries and the animals there are so varied. Fingers crossed we get that for gen 9
I still think Australia should be the next region. No only do we have some of the most unique animals in the world, like the Lyre bird and the Platypus, but our indigenous culture, the Aborigines, are the oldest, living culture in the world. We have a lot of ancient myths and legends to build around. I may be a. It bias being an Aussie myself though
@@jembozaba4864 as an Australian I would also adore an Aussie region, however I’m scared they’ll do what they did for Unova & have the Natives be White
If we apply "I am my own grandpa" to the player character, we could also apply it to Ingo. Ancestors of characters from Unova are already in PLA anyway, so Ingo being an ancestor of himself and Emmet could be possible. Though I'm not really a fan of paradoxes like that and definitely prefer Ingo eventually getting back home via Dialga or Celebi.
I know that it's a callback to Cyrus, but I can't help but feel like Volo's comment "Do you mean to tell me this world doesn't mean to be remade" is meta commentary toward the constant hunger for earlier generations to get remakes. Especially when Legends Arceus seems like it's had so much passion put into it, where BDSP largely felt... unspirited... 👀
I think it just might be both, and that makes it really good and clever writing. In the meta sense, it might also refer to how Legends entirely changed up the gameplay formula, and might very well impact the direction of Pokemon games going forward.
Toby: "Your player character is their own ancestor" Me: "What the Futurama!" I also recently heard a theory that Volo could also be Lusamine's ancestor meaning that Lusamine and Cynthia are related
Here's my theory: the stream separating Canala ave from the rest of Jubilife Village becomes a much larger body of water separating the two portions. Jubilife Village develops on its own, Canala Avenue develops into Canalave and Sandgem Town develops on the Practice Field (note how neither Sangem Beach nor Prelude Beach contain any wild Pokemon
26:07 It may actually be a Johto accent, since Johto is based on the real life region of Kansai in japan. It's common that people from there have an accent, and when translated to English usually looks like how Kamado is speaking. Though it's probably best to ask someone that's more fluent in Japanese to read it's Japanese version to confirm or not.
Yeah the whole time travel thing is a dubious theory at most. There's a lot of inconsistencies and paradoxes that conflict with it being connected after the events of Diamond and Pearl. I believe they decided to do this in order to leave it open ended, thus your character could even be from the real world like how they were in the Mystery dungeon games, which would explain a lot, such as the numerous options for your character to state they're unaware of what Pokemon are in addition to Arceus explaining to you what Pokemon are. If they were Lucas/Dawn, these options wouldn't make any sense considering they already completed the Pokedex and know what Pokemon are and it's world just for starters. In addition, your character uses a modern looking phone instead of a rotom phone (for modern series) or a xtransceiver (updated version of a poketech that people used as phones up till gen 5)
I think the theories about being from other regions, albeit modern ones, is more likely, given the T-Shirt they were wearing is one that can be gotten from modern games. (Male character is from X/Y, can't remember what people have said about the female character) Then there's also the discussion with Ingo after the Voltorb battle where the player character agrees with Ingo on what modern life, and living with Pokémon, is like.
I kinda saw Iscan as related to Marshal from Unova’s Elite 4 when I first saw him and his actions just to play on the themes of kinda how some of these ancestors have opposite traits of the present characters, but I like the Nessa ties as well!
I like to think that role reverse for Cylene and Cyrus was a nice mirror to what Cyrus could have been if he wasn't brought up they way he was. Its like a what if Cyrus didn't have to repress his emotions
Great video! Everyone online is saying the braviary warden is those two that you mentioned, but I think she is Sabrina ancestor! Green hair, uses psychic types, AND is a small kid with clairvoyance is a reference to the anime!!
I always viewed Firespit island being more so the location that will become the Pokemon league in modern Sinnoh, due to the size of the island in comparison to the OG DP games and the location of the island, just off the shore from what will become Sunnyshore city.
I was going to comment something similar. Firespit is 100% victory road. The post game island for DP was HUGE, it wasn't one tiny island. There's also a cloud on the map that covers where the island should be so maybe we'll get DLC that takes us over there one day??
34:47 I don't know if this is a stretch, but the woman next to Comander Komado reminds me of Diantha (dark hair, white dress). What does everyone else think?
About Palina, at 14:28, I believe she is the ancestor to Professor Magnolia, in SWSH. The hair is a similar colour and it is confirmed that many people in Hisui have come from Galar, so it isn't unreasonable to assume that some will have moved to Galar, away from Hisui, or their relatives. Bit of a wild guess but the hair is a very strong lead, considering all of the Galar references in PLA.
I'm pretty sure Palina is Prof Magnolia's ancestor, the hair, the "glasses", the turtle neck and the pose in the official art really make me think of her
I think there's some interesting details regarding some of the characters. While it is true that Cyrus and Volo's goals are similar, what led them to make those goals are different. Cyrus' is explained from his grandfather, Cyrus' parents' expectations are too high and and reject Cyrus' efforts during childhood. If you look back at Cyllene, she is strict but is caring, and sadly her descendents only picked up on that strict side over the years which led to Cyrus' parents' ill behaviour. Volo on the other hand doesn't seem to have issue with childhood, at least as far as we know. Given by the fact that his and Cogita's ancestors are the Sinnoh People of Old, Volo's goals maybe more of an obligation, or he just had a God-complex. Which sound a lot like Sephiroth funny enough. Speaking of Volo's words, after his defeat, he says he'll look up every riddles of Sinnoh and one day meet Arceus, that it might take him years, or even centuries. Scary enough, this ended up became Cynthia's hobby, and she would be the one to meet Arceus in the HG/SS event. Thankfully Cynthia never tried to become an evil God. Also it's funny to consider Cynthia's character is kinda like Cyllene in a way, that caring side may have reached to Cynthia.
Well, Volo does say in his lines that he wants to know why life must be so difficult, implying that he also had a rather difficult childhood. Who knows.
Another one i dont know if you mentioned is in the second last area theres a river with Magikarps and a waterfall, and ontop of the waterfall theres a pond and in that pond theres Gyaradoses basically paying tribute to the myth of carps climbing a waterfall and becoming a dragon which Magikarp and gyarados is based on lol
In the end game scene where you get the shiny charm kamadow talk about studying under laventon and leaving cylene in charge. I think this is what sets in motion cyrus leading team galactic and rowen becoming a professor.
My theory on heartwood is that, since eterna forest covers most of western sinnoh (on almost all artwork) and obsidian fieldlands is alot more foresty in the future, heartwood grows out into eterna forest over time, and becomes the heart of the wood
Regarding the croagunk statue, after you do the request where you give the doctor a croagunk to cure Buck you can find Buck at certain times near Zisu's training grounds and he tells you he wants to carve a wooden croagunk statue as thanks.
you know i don't often actually get a new bit of trivia from vids like this but i genuinely never made the connection with the water inside the lake trio rooms, that's super cool
@Bird Keeper Toby I don't think Arceus is using JUST "Time-Space" manipulation... I think your character is a Faller--like Looker in ORAS, and Annabel in SM, even Ingo from BW shows up the same way!
In one of the written Verses found by ursaluna it mentions that Sinjoh isn’t just a place, it’s a WHOLE region! Well what what were to happen if in a DLC we travel to Sinjoh.. I’d absolutely love to see Johto in that time period aswell… Legends Celebi??
I like the RGB light reference theory. However. In the spacetime distortions what items spawn. Red blue and green shards. So I've a feeling the "lights" we're seeing are those shards being spat out of the space time rift.
I know this video has been out a while, but it's based on a lot of early fan theories that have been disproven. The player characters are not Dawn and Lucas. They are also named Rei and Akari. And not all of the characters in Legends are necessarily the ancestor of the characters they resemble. GameFreak spoke on both subjects. While Rei and Akari LOOK like Dawn and Lucas, there are enough differences (including handedness) to contradict it. In particular, Iscan and Palina would need to be the ancestors to the same people - they are having an affair that they don't want their respective clans to learn about, and when the clans unite at the end they come out about the relationship and get married. Speaking of, Palina isn't wearing snow goggles. That's a diving mask. Because she is a diver by trade. Snow goggles look like what the Recon Squad in Sun and Moon wear. They aren't to keep snow out of the eyes, they're to reduce glare and prevent Snow Blindness.
Tao Hua is ALSO Charon's ancestor - similar glasses and facial features, and we eventually find out that the tension between him and Choy is due to him not approving of Choy's marriage to his granddaughter. I... really can't see anything connecting him to Faba or Opal.
Palina being May’s ancestor makes a lot of sense because Brendan’s ΩRαS redesign darkens his skin a few shades to be closer to Iscan’s color, implying that Lina and Iscan are indeed an item as implied in the dialogue.
I think that Pheobe may also be their descendant. She has an ancestor we know of from Mt Pyre, and her signature pokemon Dusclops is prominent near the water shore.
They look nothing alike though. His theory is based only on the fact she has a bandana.. which is incredibly flimsy. She looks more like Sonia than anything close to May.
As the D-clan are all ancestors to Sinnoh characters, and the P-clan to characters from other regions, I’m pretty sure Adaman has the ancestor to the hero auf DP (basically u) and Irida to May/Serena
I read somewhere that Palina and Iscan are the ancestors of Black 2 and White 2’s Gym Leader Marlon, whereas Adaman and Irida are the ancestors of Barry/Pearl.
If you notice in the galaxy team logo there are letters referencing where the settlers are from. A- alola (where rowlett came from) J- Johto (where cyndaquil is from) And U- Unova (where oshawott is from) And they are put together to make a G in reference to the galaxy team and galar as well.
5:55 this is just like the plot of Terminator where the hero travels back in time to become his own grandfather in a time loop where they stop the terminator
I'm working on lots of new theories of course so see you on the 20th or maybe just fractionally before ;) Hope you are all enjoying the game like I am!
Thes Best Part about it is it's Catching Method And Ancestors!!
@@d_r_v_n_k_ Isn't it fantastic
so Toby I got to ask what Pokemon did you use on your team for Pokemon legends Arceus I used
Samurott
Wyrdeer
Kleavor
Tortera
Goondra
Palkia/Dialga I havent chosen which one yet
Irida is Serena from xy no?
I hope you enjoyed the game. Also the sound the flute makes is the same as the game freak sound in the opening of diamond, pearl, and platinum. Fun little detail I realized when I play the game.
i also just realized, All the ridable lords from the Diamond clan are able to utilize the dash button but the ones from the Pearl clan do not. because they value their time so much!
That is nuts. It makes sense though.
no braviary can dash
@@robyncragun2311 last I checked, braviary came from the Diamond clan. Because avalugg is from the Pearl clan
@@robyncragun2311 Braviary is diamond clan
@@robyncragun2311 braviary is diamond clan. Her warden is the only member of the diamond clan allowed in the temple apparantly.
Not really an Easter egg because it's stated outright, but the ending confirms that the Arceus we catch and carry around is not actually Arceus's true self but a proxy/ avatar of Arceus that allows the player to use a portion of its power. This settles the whole "10 year old catches God in a ball" controversy.
However in Legends a 10 year old does capture at least 3 pokemon that by all accounts are gods, Palkia, Dialga and Giratina.
But it is stated that we’re 15 in this game, so only 10 year olds can catch God. Anything older isn’t worthy
@@danibo17864 true, god forbit an adult tried to catch a god better leave that to a 10yr old.
Guess that means the beta sprite for Arceus really could be its true form!
@@IOwnKazakhstan in gnostic mysticism, a weird branch of Medieval Christianity, God is the collective memory of all mankind; so God is “captured” by all humans capable of conscious thought. In that belief our existence is a mimicry of the essence of God. Not only do we control God, but we are becoming it.
A lot of Pokémon have very unique behaviours in this game, as an example blissey will normally attack or run however if your injured they're completely passive and actually follow you.
Alpha Blissey: 🕴🏻😈
Spheals roll around with you if you tackle roll around them
that is kinda wholesome tbh
I tried it and they do its very adorable
You can actually collect deer antlers without killing them. They shed them once a year so those coat hangers could def be stantler's
I wonder if shed Stantler antlers would have some weird residual psychic energy, maybe you could hypnotise people with them
@@ameliabaxter2033 or if people shave them, and boil the shavings, the tea could be like a sleep tea
@@tonyal8839 haha... (Googles) wait what
@@ameliabaxter2033 the pokedex entry says the black orb in the antlers can be made into a medicinal sleeping powder
Except they have square edges.
Apparently in Japanese, Kamado's accent that breaks through at the end is Kansai dialect, which could suggest that he's actually from Johto, which is the pokemon world equivalent of the Kansai region. I've seen some people say specifically that he could be from Mahogany town, since Mahogany is called a ninja retreat, which would explain Beni, and it's near the Lake of Rage, which could have been where the pokemon that destroyed his home came from.
It would honestly also make sense in his clothing. If he were from Galar he would probably wear clothes more akin to Laventon and not something that is clearly more traditional. Maybe he travelled to Galar before and acquired the Armor that way. Maybe it was a gift to him being a foreign diplomat.
Yeah, just because the armor is Galarian that doesn't mean he is from Galar.
@@AzureKite In the picture we see from him and his wife both are wearing a more western (galarian) style of clothing. With his suit and her dress. What if his wife had been from Galar and the armor was a sort of gift or something he bought when visiting?
@@lurkingone7079 But he also mentions the Darkest Day from Sword and Shield. Maybe his ancestry is from Johto and the family moved to Galar afterwards. His ties to Galar ars stronger to me though: besides he stating about the armor, there's also the Galarian Weezing in the Galaxy Team building (which the constructio were probably overseen by Kamado).
He's related to Chuck from Cianwood
I gotta say, the Beni and Koga thing is just a coincidence. There's always been ninjas in pokemon, not just Koga and Janine. Also, Palina's goggles are for diving for pearls, as she's based off of japanese women who would do pearl diving.
Beni is Wallys ancestor but u right the ninja thing like Koga is most likely coincidence
Commented that before i watched lol didn’t see he already said that
Beni is Cylans ancestor. He cooks, green hair and mentions he wants to go to a region with better weather
@@alfredorivapalacioirigoyen8068 We don’t talk about him and also better weather Hoenn because Unova still gets cold like Sinnoh in the winter
@@alfredorivapalacioirigoyen8068 I had a feeling from the start that he was the Striaton triplets' ancestor, due to him cooking and having the green hair and 3 spiked beard, plus his ninja outfit also having blue straps and a red vest underneath, but I feel like that's mostly coincidence since he's supposed to be an inverted ninja. Plus, Unova isn't known for its "better weather". Hoenn and Alola are though, and most ancestors don't do anything their descendants do. Candice isn't a thief, Karen isn't security, Rowan isn't a commander or leader, etc
I think the most interesting fact of Laventon mentioning that the Pokémon’s “natural” ability to shrink makes me think that Eternatus and Gigantamax energy is some how a reversal of that same natural phenomenon
this makes so much sense!
I like this theory a lot tbh
That's an interesting theory.
call matpat
YO WAIT YOU'RE RIGHT
one of my favorite easter eggs is in the Coronet Highlands; at the base of one of the waterfalls, there are Magikarp, and at the top, only Gyarados, which is a reference to an old myth of how fish who could climb up waterfalls would turn into dragons
Oh my god that's absolutely genius.... love Gamefreak for these small chuckle easter eggs, really drives the lore!!
Too bad those Magikarp didn’t turn into dragons.
Nishkiyama...
Which just does a wrap around to why magikarp evolves into gyarados
@@devinhawthorne9029 there’s 2 Gyrados flying around. Where do you think they came from
69. Snow goggles aren't to keep snow out of your eyes, though they can help with that too. The narrow slits prevent snow blindness, where sunlight reflecting off snow makes it hard to see.
If you pay attention to what the NPC is saying, you can clearly tell that the DIVING goggles of Palina wouldn't do anything to prevent this. Also, Palina's goggles are to help her swim from island to island because she's ostensibly not allowed to use Basculegion.
She’s also a Pearl diver!
There's also a side quest that has you investigating a drifloon playing with children and when you come upon them the kid screams for help because the drifloon won't let go. In modern pokedex entries it's stated they would carry children off. You literally catch one in the act and save the kid.
The fact the kid states he and the other children are friends with the drifloom and have been playing with them for many moons makes the implications so much more disturbing
Its also the same thing with froslass as you find out about it leading people to their doom though sidequests refferencing its pokedex entries in later dexs
@@Deepseashark Well froslass is based on the yuki oona(snow woman) myths and drifloon is obviously based on the same yokai that the soul piper in inuyasha was
Since you play as the character building the pokedex and that plays out… your character is probably who noted that
The drifloon are never strong enough to carry anyone away. I forget which dex entry said so but i remember one mentioning that. It could never really lift any children.
It is just a balloon and string
Given that Sinoh's real life counterpart is Hokkaido, and Hokkaido was not incorporated to Japan until the Meiji restauration sent settlers to it along with foreigners (led by an American actually) in the Hokkaido Development Commission (real life equivalent of the Galactic Expedition), it would make sense that the game is taking place around 156 years or so before the present.
I also agree with this
1000% it’s definitely 19th century, the game states it’s been 2 years since the village was founded so we are partly into the restoration but before it was named Hokkaido
The narration for the reveal trailer says that this game's story is a tale from a long, long time ago.
While definitely based on that time period, I don't think 156 years is nearly enough time for the people of modern Sinnoh to not know their region was once called Hisui or to not have knowledge about the events that took place during this game. It would be one thing if this game had an event towards the end that gives a reason for such a thing, but that isn't the case.
Rowan is 60 years old. He likely would have heard stories about the things that happened in this game by his grandfather or great-grandfather.
@@777Roxen how do you know that the people really have forgotten these things and not that it is just never brought up? Do people always talk about the things their grand-grandparents did or something?
@@777Roxen I mean, there's a chance pokemon games take place in the future lol
After you beat the game, talk to Sanqua and she’ll ask what your interpretation of the time space rift before you closed it. Whatever you pick Sanqua decides to make a painting of it. You never see the results but she describes what happened when Spear Pillar blew up. That painting she makes I’m pretty sure is the same one you see in the church in Hearthhome City.
…whoa
Man that's p cool
11:04 I can 1-up the detail on Vessa: when she's giving you the quest, she says there's 107 spirits to find, while in every other title so far, the Pokedex always mentioned it's 108 spirits.
She’s actually not possessed by Spirit Tomb; she is actually one of the spirits that should be locked inside the odd keystone. Thus making her the 108’th spirit
also on the wiki hisuian typloshion (i dont know how to spell it) attacks with 108 spirits i think its the wiki idk i know its some official pokemon website
I assume she’s also supposed to be related to the ghost girl in some way, but take that with a very tiny grain of salt.
1:41
This is porbably also mentioned later in this video but if not, after the sidequest where you catch a Crogunk so it's poison can be used for medicial purposes you can find the person you helped around the village (I specifically saw them behind the training ground building) where they then talk about making a wooden statue of Crogunk as thanks.
So what you are saying is that in this game we help hop to still exist
I'm nearly certain that Kamado's story with his wife is he lost her in the fire of his old town. He decided to leave that all behind by going to a new land, which the Diamond and Pearl clans called Hisui. There he wanted to keep everyone safe from the dangers of wild pokemon and therefor he was blinded by that and tried taking matters into his own hands.
They talk about kanto and there was an important fire involving the legendary dogs. I believe his family may have lived or been at the temple and lost them in the ho-oh fire
Based on Cameras existing and the whole "Expedition to Hokkaido/Hisui" thing, Legends Arceus took place around the time that Brass Tower burned. So, add that to the pile. His 'accent' seems more Kansai(The region Johto is based on) than Galarian as well.
Dude I get this now the fire of the tower were the Pokémon perished maybe it is connected to Kamado’s story that explaines a lot. I also think we are the old hero mainly cause you see all them statues and brake which would explain them being ruins in bdsp I mean sometimes in time travel movies and shows/games the person that travels back in time i mean we went far back into the past so maybe we are the hero just starting out
I like to see people ignoring the normal ass NPC in town that says that dispite Kamado being the Team Galaxy leader he has a wife and kid waiting for him to come home, implying that she and the kid beside her are those people in favor of making a big scene about a normal family photo in his desk...
@@TotyDados Which NPC is this!? I wasn’t ignoring it I like ligit didn’t know this.
I would believe after the two clans reconcile with each other, both of them built Eterna City next to the Summit Camp (which is where those broken statues are). This will make the fused statue a lot more sense because they wanted to make a statue that both clans can worship at the same time.
Funny enough although Eturna City got the name from its long history, this means the history of Eterna City isn't actually that long. Possibly they gave this name for hoping this city with the statue could live a long history in the future.
This comment needs more attention.
I want to note that is this is true, the two clans are meeting in the area between their two settlements. They are literally meeting in the middle.
What better way to unite the clans than good ol' fashioned marriage.
My bet's on Iscan and Paulina.
@@mmyr8ado.360 Obviously they got married, it's just not obvious enough who is their descendant. They could literally split Cynthia into a male and a female character presenting different halves of her, but couldn't do this with Iscan and Paulina. Very weird.
@@hhjan594 Jokes aside, what I mean is if there's going to be a unification of the clans, marriage between the most prominent members of each clan would have to happen.
Speaking of Volo, if there's going to be DLC with him in it, I'd like to think the Lake trio would intervene this time.
Eterna city, eternity
Also upon getting the shiny charm there is a cutscene that plays out where Kamado says he will study under the professor to learn more about Pokemon and will let Cylene take charge
And before that, there's another scene with Kamado and Cyllene again where they discuss the origin of the name of the Galaxy Expidition Team, and how Cyllene will keep the name and history of the team alive through her descendants.
The Galarian Weezing actually makes a lot of sense if you consider when the game takes place! The Industrial Revolution occurred in the early 1800s, and if this one is based off of Japan's takeover of the Hokkaido region, that occurred in 1869.
So Galarian Weezing would have shown up only a few decades before this venture
I like the idea of reincarnation, especially given Volo's parting words. I won't spoil anything, but the idea that spiritual connections span lifetimes and even possible alternate realities and the idea that some events are just meant to happen across time and space seems very interesting to think about.
This may be a reference to whatever is happening in Pokémon Masters with Cynthia and Giratina.
One point that wasn't elaborated on further was the names of both Volo and Cogita. Cogita is a play on the phrase "Cogito ergo sum" ("I think, therefore I am"), which is befitting for someone who is the keeper of knowledge. Volo's name means desire in latin, which also reflects his role in the story. Cogita is most obviously the direct ancestor to Cynthia.
Volo also appears to be related to Cynthia.
@@twilitlloyd7167 Volo says he is directly descended from the ancient hisuian people like Cogita. So they share a common ancestory but are possibly not closely related. I think they are saying that it’s more obvious that Cynthia is directly descended from Cogita given her position and knowledge.
I feel like Cogita, as the keeper of "knowledge", while Volo is the "desire", there is a vacant of "feelings" as if these three represents the three lake guardians.
@@vienor172 But Azelf does not represent desire. Azelf represents "willpower", that's the reason its trial is like that.
Cogita is more likely to be directly related with Cynthia is because she is the Celestica people living in the Ancient Retreats (which becomes Celestic Town in the modern days). From the Sinnoh games, we know Cynthia's family lived in this very town for ages and they were passing down the Sinnoh myths, and we even meet Cynthia's Grandmother in the game for this. All of this totally matches up with how and what Cogita is in this game. Volo on the other hand does not seem to be in a relationship with Cogita, it looks like Cogita is one of Volo's elder relatives that happens to take the duty of passing down the Sinnoh myths.
Regarding the Croagunk statue, the man who was healed by the medicine made from Croagunk Poison, will later on say he will make a wood carving statue of Croagunk, referring to the mysterious wood statues seen in DPP games
ohhhhhh now i get ittt
When you were mentioning how Jubilife is Canalave and the modern Jubilife is a relocation I remembered an NPC in Jubilife saying some of the corps had gone to establish another village in the Obsidian Fieldlands area which would be closer to Jubilifes actual spot in modern daya possibly meaning the NPC is actually officially hinting that as ypu said, the new established area is where Jubilife city in modern day ends up being??
Finding Tao Hua's decendant is actually really simple. His granddaughter married Choy. Therefore, if Choy is Charon's ancestor, Tao Hua probably is as well.
05:28 Objection! Making the same stereotypical ninja pose does not mean Beni and Koga are related.
I do agree that Beni is related to Wally.
If anything, he might be related to Aaron
@@paulpower9959 Oh damn, you might be right.
I think Iridia is wearing swimming goggles since she talks about traveling on the ocean. You can find actual snow goggles in the clothing shop later on, and they look like traditional Inuit snow goggles.
I've had them available way earlier
Cool
It's also very similar in shape and style to what Japanese pearl divers would wear when diving for pearls. They're also a group of all women. So Palina's design is directly inspired by and a reference to Japanese pearl divers.
Edit: Palina not Iridia
Kinda late but I believe you mixed up Palina with Iridia. Iridia is the leader of the Pearl clan and Palina is the Lord that watches over Archanine. Now back to the topic at hand, couldn't Palinas goggles be diving goggles instead of snow goggles being that well, she lives by the ocean?
Edit: messed up and put Paula instead of Palina
@@crimsonemperor2219 Palina not Paula
A clever nod in the Cobalt Coastlands that I haven't seen anyone else mention: at Deadwood Haunt there's a few shipwrecked boats, around the same place where the Sunyshore Lighthouse will be.
I'd like to add to this that there is a spot on the shore named Ginkgo Landing nearby. Maybe the merchants of Ginkgo guild (or their earlier generation taken how weathered the ships look) have traveled to Hisui by sea from another region.
something i think that’s really cool is that, during the time when all hell is broken loose and there sky is colored red green and blue, the load up screen for arceus (the menu you first see after booting the game up from the switch’s home menu) has the red green blue sky too. it’s a SUPER cool detail and there’s also no music playing-it’s so ominous and spooky
There's sketchings on the walls in every Lord/Lady pokemon's arena & while it may not be a code it IS interesting that they depict all sorts of legendary pokemon like the lake spirits & even Arceus itself (and also certain ride pokemom like sneasler), also fun fact that the potato mochi is a Hokkaido specialty & that Hisuian Zoroak COULD be a reference to the wolves that used to be native to Japan until hunter traps wiped them all out
They kind of are! Japan used to have a large population of wolves from Hokkaido down to Iwate, but once expansion started, the wolves were either hunted to extinction, or the ones remaining ran back to Russia through Sakhalin Island. Sakhalin Russians share ancestry with Ainu, Norther Chinese, and Norther Korean indigenous tribes!
The fact that in a certain Sidequest, the Driftlon just does not want the child to leave and the fear people have of Pokemon might be the origin of the "Driftlon abducts children" myth.
It has to do with the post game
It would have been neat if zoroark was used to reference that but since it's referenced in game as the baneful Fox multiple times I don't think that's the case
@@evelinepotter4551 I highly doubt it, there probably be is more evidence that came after this game, because we would then need to find a reason for why the games say it hates fat kids, and the fact Pokédex’s from even other regions say it brings children to the afterlife.
tao hua possibly has more than one descendant. after you finish all of choy’s requests it’s revealed that choy is married to tao hua’s granddaughter making both him and choy chiron’s ancestors. however, his design would suggest another possible descendant so maybe somewhere along the way his line split off even further.
I have one, if you look at origin form dialga and palkia, the things on their waists can be combined to make Aceus' ring, showing how they are both a part of him
I feel like irdia is actually May’s ancestor, their faces are very similar and I remember the first time I saw her, my first thought was that she looks like may even her head gear looks like May’s
for some reason my brain always thinks of Misty, but maybe bc her attitude reminds me a lot of the anime misty.
9:14 Marley, Cheryl, Mira, Buck and Riley form their own exclusive club called the Stat Trainers. They specialize in a single stat rather than a single type, save for Buck who specializes in both Defences. These are trainers whom are allowed in the Battleground club and are treated as being on the level of Gym Leaders. In fact, Riley, even with 5 Pokémon, stands a likely chance at dethroning Cynthia; a better chance than any other Sinnohnian trainer, at least.
Small thing I found interesting knowing some Chinese, Zisu is actually the Chinese word/phrase for 'technique', making it very easy to remember who the move tutor is. Chinese and Japanese do share certain words and characters so there's that.
It's also the Chinese pronunciation of "Shiso" as in the Shiso mint. Flint's Japanese name Oba is a green-leafed cultivar of shiso.
I heard a theory Canalave and Jubilife were once one city, the river expanded causing them to become 2. this is interesting because very clearly Snowpoint also seems to have flood, because it had access to the sea which it doesn't in this game. however if the region flooded the waterfalls would no longer be there and instead we would see a river flowing to the river
This. The docks at the north end of Canalave are where Origin Beach was.
23:55 after completing the dex there's an easter egg mentioning how Kamato plans on studying under Laventon and leaving Cyllene in charge
Possibly a reference to the leader of team galactic
That's how Cyrus became the leader of team galactic and rowan eventually becomes a professor
Honestly I feel it is clearly implied that the commander's partner is dead and got killed by rampaging pokemon in the past.
I believe that the commander and his "problemsolver", that was the best plot twist in my opinion, are the last of an ancient tribe that lived in the Hisui-Region even before the ancestors of the two clans arrived. The region was clearly settled long before as the ruins suggest. When you interact with the statues in the highlands there is the question "but who built them?", I believe this also fits the character of the commander and gives a good and compelling motivation for his actions when he clads himself in steel and literaly walks to war to kill whatever pokemon is at the tempel causing the rift.
It is clearly stated, that the commander and the mochi maker are the last of there people that got destroyed by pokemon. This is the reason why the commander wants to build a new and save place for the people. Also the place of their origin has the same name as one of the ruins in the highlands map. This would also explain why the armour he wears seams to be a combination of japanese and european design inspiration. Compared to the other leaders of the Expedition he is also the only one with a clear japanese inspired background and name. The professor is strait up a person of galarian (english) background as he is speaking english in the japanese and german game versions.
I started today with my japanese playthrough of the game after I finished in german and I have to say some parts in the english translation are very different then the original japanese and also the german translation which I think are interesting. In the original and the german translation the "Nobles" are called Kings and Queens specificly.
Now that I have this fancy TH-cam-thingy I leave a sub and maybe I will sometimes offer translations in the comments; at least someplace where my Japanese Studies come in handy
@@Justic_ bro I'm pretty sure it's straight up mentioned he's one of the Celestica people.
@@Justic_ Western clothing was very popular in the main island of Japan in the era the game likely takes place.
That said, he says that he and Beni come from another region. So he's not from Hisui for sure.
Kamado specifically mentions that he is donning traditional galarian armor if you rematch him in the Jubilife dojo, so it is highly likely he is from the Galar region, just like Laventon.
@@Justic_ not really a valid argument as it is stated that kamado travelled to hisui and beni followed alongside him as his righthand man, Beni also stated that both he and kamado came from the same village together This could potentially tie a few things together being that Wikstrom, Kamado, and Beni could possibly be originally from the Galar region and maybe strengthen the idea that it was Galar that Kalos was at war with which would obviously have been inspired by England and France's history.
@@XjerichoX12 It is a valid argument when you consider the accent folks are calling "Galarian" doesn't sound Galarian, and is more akin to a localized Kansai(Region of Japan Johto is bassed on) accent. Only a Japanese player would be able to answer that though. And the armor being imported 100% makes sense, since Japanese armor of the time was nowhere near as strong as European armor, his fears towards pokemon would have spurred him to have a suit custom made, note how he still carries Japanese style crests on the back. The games also take place during a time period where trade with the British was picking up.
Volo is the ancestor of Cynthia AND Lusamine.
Sure, you see the necklace and blonde hair, and think of Cynthia because Hisui & Sinnoh.
But the big twist, the hair covering one eye, and even his revealed palette are Lusamine.
(Lusamine and Cynthia even share similar, if not identical poses.)
Which just goes to show that Gladion and Lillie have always been related to villains AND heroes.
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Besides the fact that Lusamine and Volo are the only characters to summon otherworldly Pokémon through portals to obtain that power...
@@gabriellockwood2780 That's not a point in relation though? Plus, they aren't the only ones. I mean....Cyrus...
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Cyrus did the same thing, sure
Except that's in character for this family.
Cyrus summons 1 Legendary, which gets nullified by the Lake Trio. (DP//BDSP)
Cyrus summons both Legendaries, which can't be nullified by the Lake Trio, which summons Giratina. (PT)
Volo summons Giratina. (L:A)
Lusamine summons all the Ultra Beasts using Cosmog's Portal-Abilities. (SM)
You can't just ignore Volo and Lusamine's similarities.
@@gabriellockwood2780 I am not ignoring the possibility of them being related. In fact I believe that Volo is not only an ancestor to Cynthia, but Lusamine. But the whole "they Summon otherworldly entities" =/= mean they are blood related and is more coincidental and less concrete as once again, this connection has to first assume they are related to say that this is a common point relative to the family when it takes less assumptions to assume that they are 3 different people who are Summoning otherworldly entities. It's by far the weakest connection here as this connection would therefore connect Volo and Cyrus when other than that they have no connection. Fortunately they have somewhat similar elements in design, but once again this is still not the strongest connection compared to the blatant Cynthia ancestry.
But Cynthia's hair also covers her eye, while the colour palette.. is based on Arceus, of who he is dressed like.
I also really appreciate the nods and references to the first Mystery Dungeon game. The hero that falls into a new world with (maybe) memory loss, the way the story is structured, the familiar plot elements that gave me MAJOR deja-vu feelings especially towards the end of the game. And also concerning Gardevoir, who has a big role in the first MD game, whereit literally sacrificed itself to protect its trainer from Ninetale's curse. That was a fascinating story in itself.
8:22 Given that Kamado and Beni came to Hisui to essentially begin a new life after their hometown in another region was ravaged by a Pokémon, and that their goal is to create a place where humans can live free of fear of Pokémon, i think its a safe bet that his wife died in the town that was destroyed.
I feel like Iscan could be an ancestor to Marlon, but that really only comes from the idea of Iscan being the caretaker of Basculegion, and Basculin being a Pokémon common in Unova.
I'm excited for future legends games. I love and still enjoying PLA even though I've beaten the main story. There's lots of things they can improve on, PLA is somewhat considered a "baby" or trial game before the next one comes along in the future
Do we know it's going to be a series? I REALLY hope it is 🙏
@@impudentstrumpet2655 I imagine it will be since it’s sold really well so far
Yeah plus it can also retcon and explain a lot more lore in different regions. Imagine being able to witness Johto's 3 great beasts arise from the ashes of the tower, or explanations to regileli and regidrago in a knights of the round table style galar during an age of kings and clans
I want a Legends Unova game based on the American Civil War--it'd be perfect. Not only because of the whole dichotomy with truth and ideals and the legendaries and stuff, but also if they continue to take historical inspiration with these games this would be smackdab in the middle of the colonization of western America. Imagine Red Dead Redemption but Pokémon. That'd be sick. Although considering how this game turned out...I'd rather wait till GameFreak sharpens their skills before Legends Unova. Well, assuming they sharpen them at all--seems the devs are still as bad at optimization as they were in the development of gen 2! 😅
@Mystic Firestrike That’s what I’m thinking and hoping for 🙏
I think one thing ossibly discounted in this is characters that are also specifically referrences to characters that only appear in the anime. One that was like a bucket of ice water to the face for me was that Melli is 900% the ancestor of Team Rocket's very own James. Mannerisms and style both match.
oh my god i can't believe i never saw it before. this bugged the hell out of me that i couldn't place him but that fits really very well (to me) now that you say that
I was thinking that too
biggest easter egg you missed is from one of the Old Verses! so it's a bit of a spoiler if you want to discover them all for yourself, but Old Verse 12 explicitly mentions Sinjoh: "Wintry... Austere... Brimming with strange power... Certainly the land of Hisui bears some resemblance to Sinjoh. Here, where the ancient Sinnoh people were born, I will spend an eternity... until the one with the mission appears." SUPER fascinated by this, and it really makes me wonder who wrote the old verses, since their description says it's all the same author - the ancient hero? is cogita immortal? would love a theory on this! (also, Old Verse 5 talks about the ancient Celestica people and their disappearance, which is fascinating, and... really makes me even more curious about Cogita). Anyway, sorry for the super long comment, I've just been so excited to hear your theories and thoughts about the game!
I don’t think Cogita is Cynthia’s ancestor, I think she IS Cynthia, Arceus may have sent her back in time later in her life to help us
Sword and Shield's entrees actually mention Copperajah came from a far off region to Galar a long time ago, so that could mean Laventon is actually from Copperajah's home region originally, and just studied in Galar. Possibly references Britain's control over India during the same time period that Legends seems to align with(1800s)
A lot of people do speculate gen 9 would be based off india too, which would be hella neat to see
The Roselia entry clearly implies he is galarian.
@@rafaelrijo8175 why though ? Is it a British thing you do ?😆
Also, in FR/LG, Raichu's Pokédex entry said that he could KO an Indian elephant, Copperajah isn't from Galar, so Copperajah could be the Indian elephant.
@@regalseagull To the first one no, I'm just a history nerd. And to the second one, that is pretty much already accepted. The thing is that in the point in real world history that inspired legends Arceus, the Meiji Restoration, Great Britain would have already been in India for a long time. In the context of the Pokemon world, it would be enough time for pokemon like copparajah to become part of Galar alongside curry, which did happen in the real world. Meaning, him saying copparajah from my home region doesn't mean he is from the Pokemon version of India. Especially with his very British mannerisms and how he speaks. In all languages he shown speaking English in occasions and in English he says very British sayings. Just because he has dark completion doesn't mean he is not Galarian.
I really hope you talk about the relationship of Cogita and Enamorus. Cogita makes a comment after you capture Enamorus implying that she will outlive the protagonist and how Enamorus will eventually return to her. Idk what she means by this but it feels super interesting to explore
cogita even resembles the gothita line of pokemon too from unova. I wonder if thats just a coincidence tho
Also, Volo says he will work for centuries if he has to, to get his revenge. He is ABSOLUTELY immortal or at the very least ages VERY slowly.
@@miles6492 I don't think so. It could just be his desperation. If he were truly immortal, that would mean he was Cynthia--and considering Cynthia and Volo's different behaviors, I think we can both agree that is not the case.
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>If he were truly immortal, that would mean he was Cynthia
Immortal doesn't mean infertile.
@@nerdletter3773 he is a time traveler, or at least from a different dimension!
That was so sweet that you paused to thank those still watching :) I love looking for Easter Eggs too, and I think I’ll keep finding animal comparisons to make as well! I need to check out your tree of life videos!
Aw I’m grateful so yeah, thanks ^_^
Aw I’m grateful so yeah, thanks ^_^
I think a big one you missed was Basculin’s entry. How this one is called a regional variant because of its similar body shape to other Basculins.
Youre righ tI did miss that :D Thanks
Part 2 of easter eggs? 😃
The white stripe is also an Easter egg to America. Red, White, and Blue
@@gustavju4686 america isnt the only country with red white and blue lmao
@@xx_underoosyt_xx3127 True, but Basculine debuted in Unova which is based on (part of) the U.S. :)
Finally, someone recognized the floor design seen during the Arceus encounter (#112) at the end of the game as the same one from the Arceus event from HG/SS!
The forces of nature therian forms are based on the Chinese sacred beasts (4 symbols). The Japanese have different names for them.
Tornadus-Suzaku
Thunderus-Seiryu
Landorus-Byakko
Enamorus-Genbu
I saw something interesting while going through the Tidal cave! There's some drawings, which at first appeared like UNKNOWN characters but it turns out to be mini drawings of some other known legends! I just thought it was pretty interesting and wanted to share!
I found a super cool Easter egg in the game just this morning. The movie The Rise of Darkrai has a character named Baron Alberto who has a Lickilicky, and if you challenge the Path of Solitude with Darkrai, the opponent Ingo chooses for you is a Lickilicky. I understood the reference as soon as I saw what Pokémon Ingo chose for me to fight.
I must say, that after playing legends arceus, I'm even more on Lockstin's side about the time frame of the game.
The whole architecture and even the clothing resembles, what you can find about Japan around 1850 to 1900. It'd make sense, that there are other Pokédexes as well, ride pokémon are already used in Alola. Spiritombs "hundreds of years" would make sense as well, if its just 150-200 years back from today.
The story framework is a colonization effort and learning about "zoology". There are no "farm animal" pokémon around like miltank, tauros or mareep, who should already be domesticated on the main land. Also we get a Petitlil to craft a known remedy for the psyduck.
I do not really see a reason to say it is way earlier... We can buy dress suits and "modern" shoes for arceus sake.
Yeah, and the stuff that's modeled on the more Western style looks like it's from the late 19th century. Probably near or during the second Industrial Revolution (even though it obviously hadn't made it to Hisui yet) because the Galarian Weezing on the headquarters is based off the smokestacks from old coal plants.
Coming back to your cubfu is from hisui makes so much sense since the agile and strong style have a scroll sign when you’re selecting them
Given the level of technology and the slowly improving relations of the Diamond and Pearl Clans, and the Galaxy Team, I feel confident that the game takes place in the early to mid 1800s. Allow me to explain:
Photography as we know it today got its start in 1839, and barring Professor Laventon's steampunk Kodak, the photographic technology lines up well. The Galaxy Team also appears to use electric lighting, albeit an early iteration of it. I also believe that gunpowder had been invented, due to the firework shot that fires out of Pokeballs to signify a Pokemon having been caught. Maybe guns just don't work well on Pokemon. Finally, we have the aftermath of the events of the game. Since the Temple of Sinnoh was destroyed, and we as the player discovered that no entity known as Sinnoh exists (instead being Arceus, then Dialga and Palkia), the Diamond and Pearl Clans, with the Galaxy Team, decided to rename the Hisui Region as the Sinnoh Region, and to rename the ruins of Sinnoh's temple to Spear Pillar after the events of the game. This would reflect Hokkaido's renaming, which happened in 1869.
Also just generally the outfits that Laventon and Cogita wear are victorian era esque. Which was in the 1800's.
The fashion of the region and the founding of Sapporo are all 1870s onwards too.
10:43 that could actually be a reference to Sword and Shield's wild area bike time trial. You also have to run into balloons.
33:00 Copperajah sword Pokédex entry: “They came over from another region long ago and worked together with humans. Their green skin is resistant to water.” That means that the professor isn’t from galar but rather this region we have yet to explore in the games.
Not necisserily. He is form glgar thats a fact it oculd be that Copparajah moved to galar before LA
@@BirdKeeperToby honestly yeah there is a lot to suggest professor Laventon is from galar. Still he could be from this Copperajah home region and I hope we see it someday!
@@bagelgod946 This might actually point to the next region as many theorists say that the next region is an indian region!
@@BirdKeeperToby so many spelling mistakes bro
My theory is that Iscan, Palina, and possibly Calaba will be the ancestors of characters we'll meet in Gen 9. It would explain why their resemblance to existing characters is so fuzzy compared to the other wardens.
I can see some of them, but I'm hoping that they keep some as original characters.
I think it's more like this:
Iscan --> Nessa
Palina --> Glacia
Calaba --> Mina
@@Ajzan1 No. They're just not.
Stop trying to make original characters fit as ancestors, They're very obviously not. All the ancestor characters are made very obvious, usually by having the same hairstyle.
Those three do not.
@@Missingno_Miner you get me😫🙏
It’s so hard watching the community run around frantically trying to figure out who’s an ancestor of who when I doubt all of them even have ancestors/descendants. People are trying to justify it by “that’s the point of worldbuilding” but it’s very possible some of these characters just died and never got descendants
I feel like some of the ancestor connectons you mention are real stretches. While there are certainly ones I thought of that you didn't agree with, not every character has to have a connection to a modern day counterpart. It's probably better that way, even. I don't think Mellie, Calaba or Adaman, for example, are really related to anyone we know.
I think that there’s a lot of characters without descendants and that people just took the “oh these people are obviously descended from ___• as a “oh everybody is an ancestor”
I think Spitiromb request is one of the best. The message is that, inside the Odd Keystone, one of the 108 spirits broke the seal. That one spirit, Vessa, searched for the player to help her collect them all, which could've been done by herself too but she still had that single wish to play with someone before getting sealed again. We can finally get to sorta know a bit one of the 108 spirits thanks to this request, who happens to be just the spirit of a girl. This request also reveals how lonely some of those spirits probably feel inside the Odd Keystone.
Don't feel too bad, it's consistently stated that those 108 spirits were malevolent.
I personally think that Volo isn't Cynthia's ancestor
I think, that it's Lusamine
Both Lusamine and Volo tried summoning creatures from other dimensions!
I really like that idea! That's quite compelling.
Maybe Cynthia and Lusamine are related after all!
In Pokemon Master Ex, Giratina is Cynthia's syncpair. So can Volo be reference?
Volo uses a nearly identical pokemon team as Cynthia, it's clearly a nod to them being ancestors
@@sagejungwirth4155 I agree with that. Perhaps Cynthia and Lusamine are Related!
32:19 I've been wanting an Africa region for a while. The culture has so many myths and legends that would make such interesting legendaries and the animals there are so varied. Fingers crossed we get that for gen 9
That’s like making all of Europe a single Pokémon Region. Africa isn’t a culture, it’s multiple.
I still think Australia should be the next region. No only do we have some of the most unique animals in the world, like the Lyre bird and the Platypus, but our indigenous culture, the Aborigines, are the oldest, living culture in the world. We have a lot of ancient myths and legends to build around. I may be a. It bias being an Aussie myself though
@@jembozaba4864 as an Australian I would also adore an Aussie region, however I’m scared they’ll do what they did for Unova & have the Natives be White
The Japanese aren't too fond of Africans or anyone of that ethnicity
Can you imagine that Legends Arceus is the set up for it? A new region filled with wildlands for us to catch and survey new Pokemon?
If we apply "I am my own grandpa" to the player character, we could also apply it to Ingo. Ancestors of characters from Unova are already in PLA anyway, so Ingo being an ancestor of himself and Emmet could be possible. Though I'm not really a fan of paradoxes like that and definitely prefer Ingo eventually getting back home via Dialga or Celebi.
I know that it's a callback to Cyrus, but I can't help but feel like Volo's comment "Do you mean to tell me this world doesn't mean to be remade" is meta commentary toward the constant hunger for earlier generations to get remakes. Especially when Legends Arceus seems like it's had so much passion put into it, where BDSP largely felt... unspirited... 👀
I think it just might be both, and that makes it really good and clever writing. In the meta sense, it might also refer to how Legends entirely changed up the gameplay formula, and might very well impact the direction of Pokemon games going forward.
MAYBE, it wouldn't need to be remade if they resold the games. I prefer the 2D art style more anyway.
Toby: "Your player character is their own ancestor"
Me: "What the Futurama!"
I also recently heard a theory that Volo could also be Lusamine's ancestor meaning that Lusamine and Cynthia are related
Here's my theory: the stream separating Canala ave from the rest of Jubilife Village becomes a much larger body of water separating the two portions. Jubilife Village develops on its own, Canala Avenue develops into Canalave and Sandgem Town develops on the Practice Field (note how neither Sangem Beach nor Prelude Beach contain any wild Pokemon
No. 20 is nothing else but the Grandfather paradox. Interesting^^
No. 120 could also be the Ghost story about the infamous "Lady in White"
26:07 It may actually be a Johto accent, since Johto is based on the real life region of Kansai in japan. It's common that people from there have an accent, and when translated to English usually looks like how Kamado is speaking. Though it's probably best to ask someone that's more fluent in Japanese to read it's Japanese version to confirm or not.
Yeah the whole time travel thing is a dubious theory at most. There's a lot of inconsistencies and paradoxes that conflict with it being connected after the events of Diamond and Pearl.
I believe they decided to do this in order to leave it open ended, thus your character could even be from the real world like how they were in the Mystery dungeon games, which would explain a lot, such as the numerous options for your character to state they're unaware of what Pokemon are in addition to Arceus explaining to you what Pokemon are.
If they were Lucas/Dawn, these options wouldn't make any sense considering they already completed the Pokedex and know what Pokemon are and it's world just for starters. In addition, your character uses a modern looking phone instead of a rotom phone (for modern series) or a xtransceiver (updated version of a poketech that people used as phones up till gen 5)
I think the theories about being from other regions, albeit modern ones, is more likely, given the T-Shirt they were wearing is one that can be gotten from modern games. (Male character is from X/Y, can't remember what people have said about the female character) Then there's also the discussion with Ingo after the Voltorb battle where the player character agrees with Ingo on what modern life, and living with Pokémon, is like.
It is an Alola themed shirt for the female.
10:25-Not just that, Lian has an interest in stones and ores which passes down to Clay who becomes head of a mining company.
“Seek out all Pokémon” So THAT’S why the original Azure Flute event was so difficult!
I kinda saw Iscan as related to Marshal from Unova’s Elite 4 when I first saw him and his actions just to play on the themes of kinda how some of these ancestors have opposite traits of the present characters, but I like the Nessa ties as well!
I like to think that role reverse for Cylene and Cyrus was a nice mirror to what Cyrus could have been if he wasn't brought up they way he was. Its like a what if Cyrus didn't have to repress his emotions
Great video! Everyone online is saying the braviary warden is those two that you mentioned, but I think she is Sabrina ancestor! Green hair, uses psychic types, AND is a small kid with clairvoyance is a reference to the anime!!
It’s not Sabrina it’s cheryl.
I hope they make future legends games and work their way backwards through the Japanese pokemon lands. Ultimately ending with a Johto/Kanto region
I always viewed Firespit island being more so the location that will become the Pokemon league in modern Sinnoh, due to the size of the island in comparison to the OG DP games and the location of the island, just off the shore from what will become Sunnyshore city.
I was going to comment something similar. Firespit is 100% victory road. The post game island for DP was HUGE, it wasn't one tiny island. There's also a cloud on the map that covers where the island should be so maybe we'll get DLC that takes us over there one day??
It's a volcanic island. Over hundreds of years? Yeah, it can get bigger. Firespit island is definitely meant to be stark island because Heatran.
34:47 I don't know if this is a stretch, but the woman next to Comander Komado reminds me of Diantha (dark hair, white dress). What does everyone else think?
i was thinking that the whole time
About Palina, at 14:28, I believe she is the ancestor to Professor Magnolia, in SWSH. The hair is a similar colour and it is confirmed that many people in Hisui have come from Galar, so it isn't unreasonable to assume that some will have moved to Galar, away from Hisui, or their relatives. Bit of a wild guess but the hair is a very strong lead, considering all of the Galar references in PLA.
I'm pretty sure Palina is Prof Magnolia's ancestor, the hair, the "glasses", the turtle neck and the pose in the official art really make me think of her
I think there's some interesting details regarding some of the characters. While it is true that Cyrus and Volo's goals are similar, what led them to make those goals are different.
Cyrus' is explained from his grandfather, Cyrus' parents' expectations are too high and and reject Cyrus' efforts during childhood. If you look back at Cyllene, she is strict but is caring, and sadly her descendents only picked up on that strict side over the years which led to Cyrus' parents' ill behaviour.
Volo on the other hand doesn't seem to have issue with childhood, at least as far as we know. Given by the fact that his and Cogita's ancestors are the Sinnoh People of Old, Volo's goals maybe more of an obligation, or he just had a God-complex. Which sound a lot like Sephiroth funny enough.
Speaking of Volo's words, after his defeat, he says he'll look up every riddles of Sinnoh and one day meet Arceus, that it might take him years, or even centuries. Scary enough, this ended up became Cynthia's hobby, and she would be the one to meet Arceus in the HG/SS event. Thankfully Cynthia never tried to become an evil God. Also it's funny to consider Cynthia's character is kinda like Cyllene in a way, that caring side may have reached to Cynthia.
Well, Volo does say in his lines that he wants to know why life must be so difficult, implying that he also had a rather difficult childhood. Who knows.
Volo's dialogue suggests he's had a lot of pain/hardship growing up.
Another one i dont know if you mentioned is in the second last area theres a river with Magikarps and a waterfall, and ontop of the waterfall theres a pond and in that pond theres Gyaradoses basically paying tribute to the myth of carps climbing a waterfall and becoming a dragon which Magikarp and gyarados is based on lol
In the end game scene where you get the shiny charm kamadow talk about studying under laventon and leaving cylene in charge. I think this is what sets in motion cyrus leading team galactic and rowen becoming a professor.
This is my first pokemon game since fire red and leaf green and may I say this game is incredible in so many ways.
My theory on heartwood is that, since eterna forest covers most of western sinnoh (on almost all artwork) and obsidian fieldlands is alot more foresty in the future, heartwood grows out into eterna forest over time, and becomes the heart of the wood
Regarding the croagunk statue, after you do the request where you give the doctor a croagunk to cure Buck you can find Buck at certain times near Zisu's training grounds and he tells you he wants to carve a wooden croagunk statue as thanks.
you know i don't often actually get a new bit of trivia from vids like this but i genuinely never made the connection with the water inside the lake trio rooms, that's super cool
5:24 I bet it's a reference to poor Professor Oak having to take care of Ash's entire bench of Pokémon
@Bird Keeper Toby
I don't think Arceus is using JUST "Time-Space" manipulation... I think your character is a Faller--like Looker in ORAS, and Annabel in SM, even Ingo from BW shows up the same way!
In one of the written Verses found by ursaluna it mentions that Sinjoh isn’t just a place, it’s a WHOLE region! Well what what were to happen if in a DLC we travel to Sinjoh.. I’d absolutely love to see Johto in that time period aswell… Legends Celebi??
I like the RGB light reference theory. However. In the spacetime distortions what items spawn. Red blue and green shards. So I've a feeling the "lights" we're seeing are those shards being spat out of the space time rift.
I know this video has been out a while, but it's based on a lot of early fan theories that have been disproven. The player characters are not Dawn and Lucas. They are also named Rei and Akari. And not all of the characters in Legends are necessarily the ancestor of the characters they resemble. GameFreak spoke on both subjects. While Rei and Akari LOOK like Dawn and Lucas, there are enough differences (including handedness) to contradict it.
In particular, Iscan and Palina would need to be the ancestors to the same people - they are having an affair that they don't want their respective clans to learn about, and when the clans unite at the end they come out about the relationship and get married.
Speaking of, Palina isn't wearing snow goggles. That's a diving mask. Because she is a diver by trade. Snow goggles look like what the Recon Squad in Sun and Moon wear. They aren't to keep snow out of the eyes, they're to reduce glare and prevent Snow Blindness.
Tao Hua is ALSO Charon's ancestor - similar glasses and facial features, and we eventually find out that the tension between him and Choy is due to him not approving of Choy's marriage to his granddaughter. I... really can't see anything connecting him to Faba or Opal.
Palina being May’s ancestor makes a lot of sense because Brendan’s ΩRαS redesign darkens his skin a few shades to be closer to Iscan’s color, implying that Lina and Iscan are indeed an item as implied in the dialogue.
I think that Pheobe may also be their descendant. She has an ancestor we know of from Mt Pyre, and her signature pokemon Dusclops is prominent near the water shore.
@@NoniTinystorm and you specifically need a Dusclops to make Basculegion's favorite food
I Think Palina's descendant is Professor Sycamore
They look nothing alike though. His theory is based only on the fact she has a bandana.. which is incredibly flimsy. She looks more like Sonia than anything close to May.
As the D-clan are all ancestors to Sinnoh characters, and the P-clan to characters from other regions, I’m pretty sure Adaman has the ancestor to the hero auf DP (basically u) and Irida to May/Serena
I read somewhere that Palina and Iscan are the ancestors of Black 2 and White 2’s Gym Leader Marlon, whereas Adaman and Irida are the ancestors of Barry/Pearl.
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If you notice in the galaxy team logo there are letters referencing where the settlers are from.
A- alola (where rowlett came from)
J- Johto (where cyndaquil is from)
And
U- Unova (where oshawott is from)
And they are put together to make a G in reference to the galaxy team and galar as well.
6:50 "Nod and hint to the twists and turns that come with some of the other characters" *Volo in bottom left corner intensifies*
5:55 this is just like the plot of Terminator where the hero travels back in time to become his own grandfather in a time loop where they stop the terminator
you can find the snow goggles in the clothing shop, they are the wooden masks with the slits. What Palina is wearing are diving goggles.