EV Hater vs Tesla Cybertruck
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no self improvement even in theory is funny for ai nor for robotics
you people are just hte worst version of the pharao you are children with power
"I mean I don't know" is his way of saying "WOW, holy shit! I have no words!" :P
I spent 20 years in the oil field working out of Houston, Texas. This guy is like every Texan I've ever met.
OIL is Irrelevant now.
@@markplott4820lol like what was said in the video, oil was necessary for producing the Cubertruck’s materials even. You can’t make plastic without it.
@@PlutoisaPlanet - FALSE , you can make Commerical plastics out of 100% recycled bottles.
and even Synthetically now.
plastics have changed.
@@PlutoisaPlanet - Cybertruck is very LOW carbon for a TRUCK .
way less than any Production TRUCK..
@@markplott4820 the biggest joke here.
Love this guy. He is exactly the person you want perspective on.
Yup I said the same of the hummev it was a genius move by gm imo. 👍🏻😎
Each hummev or ct sold can keep up to 800-1,200+gallons of gas or diesel annually from being burned. At 7# a gallon just in fuel weight.
Each tesla semi sold when they get going can replace 8,000+gallons of diesel fuel per unit! 😁
What about the chemical's in the batteries? @@4literv6
The biggest shock for this bro will probably be, when he sits back in his legacy truck and realizes how outdated it looks and feels, like going back in time.
absolutely. and he will feel it. A lot of truck guys buy them used. So for them they always do the math comparing. If you calculate new to new I think the value proposition of the CT will be unbeatable.
💯 to both comments above ^
Even side by side it makes the old look very old
It was immediately apparent to him at the beginning of the video. “It’s almost too futuristic“.
Point is, there’s a difference between realizing things are changing and not wanting things to change. This guy is in the latter category. Still love him though.
And it makes noise like an old timey choochoo train... chuggachuggachuggachugga...choo!choooooo!
Once you step into the future, there is no way going back. He'll find out.
This video is GOLD. This guy’s accent and his point of view are priceless. Really great to see the CT through his eyes!
Imagine explaining to him that towing and losing 2 hours charging would save him $150 in fuel.
That is a great argument! How much $ are you making/saving per hour by charging CT vs fueling F250 or other option?
Time is money, $150 in fuel doesn't matter then you're making 3-5k a day.
He had a point regardless of the money savings. You never get time back, but you can always regen the money.
Well, an hourly wage of 75 bucks aint too bad, especially for just resting up for a bit :)
But how much towing is he doing with his towing. Ho many are long trips . We need more info on his towing. A little extra time one or twice a month . And being in Texas can be Get Tesla 30 a month unlimited nite time charging. Where diesel would cost from 90 to gas for diesel 104 for a fill at Texas fuel cost. A few extra minutes in a trip is not not bad. So filling up once a week is 400 a month vs 30 and a little more for long trips when super charging may still be less than one fuel fill up. It could be a 300 dollar plus a month savings and we have added up maintenance cost savings. I haven't even thought about the total cost of ownership. And with the extended battery it may be closer to range he wants.
Thank you Travis for being willing to take some of your time to make this video!
To me, he sums up so many skeptical people who drive EVs for the first time. They start out so against them, then the more they drive and learn, they SLOWLY begin to change their perception. Fun to see.
Most people who've never owned or driven an EV use the same talking points they hear on the news, so it's fun to watch them get enlightened.
Exactly I was all against Tesla then I drove one over the weekend in the mtns. I’m sold! Looking to get one soon!
@@DoughBoiVegan23 Ha! Enjoy!
Refreshing to hear the honest opinion of someone who would actually use the cyber truck for what it was intended to be. Not easily impressed by design but appreciating the utility as a replacement for his F150. He's not there yet but you can see he could possibly be there with a few changes and more driving experience. This is one of the best reaction videos that I have ever seen.
Honestly is the best policy even if, unwittingly, your answers might be perceived as wrong. Good friends always forgive any foibles.
Believe he compared it to his F250
@@qwazy0158 He was definitely trying to be honest😊
@ove1knobody495 completely, just saying he's got a F250, not F150 is all. He's comparing it to a better truck than F150.
@@qwazy0158Does it matter? He pretty much said only way he’d be a customer is if you could haul for a longer range, and charge it in 15 min rather than an hour.
This guy is gold. Salt of the earth type of man, candid, authentic, and fair!
Fsd becomes autonomous and becomes legal to have a beer on route........this guy...sold!!
not gonna happen
Thats what im waiting for!
No more DUI's! Don't be stupid!
@1620rx do you know what the D stands for in dui? BTW it was a joke forest gump!
Travis had a LOT coming at him on that 1st drive and he adapted and handled it very well. Watching him discover the "new world" was very interesting. Good job guys!
Been in farming all my life, 10% of truck owners use their truck for truck stuff lol 60%-70% is way overstated lol
True! - i picked up on that quote, but it sounds like Travis does so many miles the owners he mixes with actually do use them for truck stuff. That could account for his overstating the numbers
Now it's 500 miles? remember when "range anxiety" demanded 300 miles for EVs to be worth considering? If EVs start covering 700, the new "range anxiety" will demand a 1000 mile range. People just don't like admitting it's time to change.
Range anxiety is for the uninformed / uneducated.
adding more range just means more charging time. plus the actual range is not usually close to the estimates.
Once you have actually tried an EV you go from range anxiety to charge time anxiety.
This is the main challenge that EVs still need to solve. Today, if you drive an EV and an ICE car coast to cost in the US or north to south in Europe the Ice car arrives hours before the EV simply due to charge time.
@@torben777 "charge time anxiety"? ANXIETY????
Dude... seriously? You're trolling... right?
"Looks like a triangle and a rectangle were gettin' it on, and this is what popped out". lol.
Travis has a way with words, doesn't he?
@@farzyness 🤣🤣🤣
Love this video. The greatest line was saying even though you two have different viewpoints you still get along. I wish others were like you two.
He loves it. He’s gonna tell all his friends how cool it is.
Butts in seats.
No he's not
I bet he buys one! Especially when he figures out the savings in "fuel" not to mention no oil changes etc. My favourite feature of all EVs in the renenerative braking. It's like free fuel.
I don't think so as he is one of the very few that does tow often and long distances but he will be the first there when they double the energy density@@nononsenseBennett
Yep, he's in denial lol
escape velocity from the wife.. priceless.
the mirror is compliance. why is nobody explaining that. the reason its small is because tesla wants to get rid of them altogether but currently are unable to
And the ICE pick up trucks are beautiful? Very boxy and all copy paste of each other. Pickup trucks aren’t meant to be beautiful but are functional. Pickup trucks, whether IcE pickup trucks or the CT, are never going to look like a Ferrari or Porsche from a design perspective. Beauty is ultimately a personal taste. I am not a fan of either but would prefer the CT. At least it is boldly different from all these similar looking ICE pick up trucks.
My previous partner thought most cars, especially trucks, are ugly AF. But she loves the cybertruck when first seeing it. She said she would feel like a badass Lara Croft fucking tomb raider driving that thing In general, she thought Tesla's were one of the few non ugly cars.
I agree with your previous that vehicles are ugly, generally. They're tools and toys.
@@cheezzinator
@@snookmeister55 agreed! My current car has a glorious battle scar from when I didn't let a delivery van perfectly blocking the parking entrance stop me. Now everyone can see I mean business hahah
We’ve had years of conditioning and so we see them as beautiful. What we perceive as beauty is actually familiarity. We humans don’t like new or different. But that changes overtime. Did you ever fancy a girl or boy in school just because others fancied them too?
My right ear loved the audio. Lol
Funny how the importance of emission's are never the main issue in these conversations. Thats why we are where we are in the world. Put your exhaust behind you and forget it exists (and what you are doing).
People will find every possible negative for an EV. They try so hard. Ive had the same convo where the person I was talking with rattled on about hydrogen/EV recycling whilst not having a thorough understanding of what they were talking about.
The biggest hidden pleasure for me driving my Model 3 is knowing I'm not kicking out fumes and how much I haven't since ownership. Would you park your running car in a garage overnight with your family sitting inside...? I could!
Great content though.
Great point. Emissions conversation needs to be brought back to front and center. It's why EVs are the future. It's our generation responsibility to leave the air cleaner for the next generation.
Agree. Also, big trucks and SUVs wouldn't be so popular in the US if they were not being heavily subsidized for decades by being exempted from the much stricter emission standards that apply to sedans. It was intended for commercial use to do real work, but most people buy them for personal use and don't do any truck stuff with them. Never mind the cheap gas and diesel to fuel the addiction!
Do you have any idea how the electricity is produced to power your EV?
@@who6339 yep many ways. wind, hydro not always coal based especially today.
Indeed
Hey Farzad. I enjoy your channel. Thanks for what you do, Calvin.
Speaking as an environmental scientist, you might also want to mention the state of the planet when talking with people who still use and promote gasoline burning vehicles. The instant that your friend turns on his gasoline burning truck he is generating CO2 and approximately 20 other green house gases (that are also poisonous to our health). The CO2 he is actively generating will last not for hours, not for days, not for weeks, not for months, and not just for years. The CO2 he generates will last for decades into the next century, continually pushing heat (infrared radiation) back down to the planet's surface, 24 hours a day.
NOTE: I started eliminating my green house gas emissions a decade ago when I learned of the climate catastrophe. I switched to electric transportation and switched to electric yard equipment. I first had an electric motorcycle for two years, then I had a Chevy Volt for three years, then a Chevy Bolt for three years, then a Tesla Model Y for the last two years. I will be switching to a Cybertruck within the next 6 months to a year. I will be adding a Cyberlandr to the Cybertruck which will become my new tiny house on wheels. I plan on moving off grid and living near the north shores of Lake Superior.
NOTE2: Seven years ago I installed a metal roof with two solar panel arrays onto the roof of my house. Since then I have generated and fed 44 million watt hours of clean renewable electricity into my province's electric grid. I have reduced my carbon foot print 250% and I am no longer harming you or your family.
NOTE3: Over the last two years, climate scientists have become even more alarmed as the increase in global temperatures and the collapse of a survivable environment is accelerating and is now seemingly spiralling out of control. This has led to farm land being destroyed and disappearing way faster than expected.
Thanks for listening, Calvin.
Conservatives could care less about that stuff. They love the smell of oil in the morning
@@flaymil5373many of us don't care about our carbon footprint but we do love efficiency. I already got my foundation series invite, just waiting for it to be built.
You'll never ever convince most people using that argument. I always start with the foreign oil aspect, as that's a huge national security aspect. Causing wars where we literally kill ourselves fighting. Plus, generating your own power with solar to be less dependant on the government etc.
@@Octamed Followed up shortly with self-reliance and efficiency at the individual level. You can't make yourself energy independent with a diesel generator unless you want to become a farmer and get into chemistry most folks wouldn't be interested in. Plenty of Conservatives are pro solar, we're just anti-authoritarian as well.
He'll buy one in 6 months 🤣
yeah cant wait for that video dude is funny
Doubt it lol
he didnt really like it that much so probably not
This was a great example of a preconceived perception evolving with exposure to the new. He was fair-minded about viewing it and the impressions got more and more positive.
Yeah this wasn't so bad. At least he's not getting angry and categorically denying facts like most people with his views.
Travis is the man!
@@snappie-riversofengland7589yeah funny to hear the “EVs still destroy the environment” FUD, but complexity is a steep hill to climb.
@@tapuzak that surprised me too. It's difficult not to shut every comment they make down because they make no sense but it will just turn into an argument. I work with a guy similar but worse than Travis and I find it best to smile and nod on some things and respond to others like Farzad did even though their reasoning is almost entirely nonsensical.
@@snappie-riversofengland7589 Farzad did a great job with it. Frankly, Travis did as well. This type of content probably makes more progress than most other stuff.
It's painful to see the evidence of years of targeted misinformation. But it's important to let people express their opinions, and let the product speak for itself.
Yes, on batteries on mines, 100%... and then, once the market is all EVs full, you start getting close to a closed loop system. You need to build up more power solar with battery banks for the grind. But that information is lost. Same with cobalt being removed from the battery market ect.
summation: "this is a foreign/unfamiliar thing... i dont like it!!"
which is normal
@@yuriandrigani unfortunately...yes, you are correct.
just because someething is unique doesn't make it objectively good looking guys. A concept CT lovers fail to realize. Objectively, I'd put my money where my mouth is and say most people don't think its an athestically pleasing vehicle. And I'd put more money on saying that less people will like it in the future. My opinion.
@@xxicemanxx11 no one is saying that. simply pointing out that it is human nature to reject the unfamiliar.
@@xxicemanxx11This is a truck. Many truck owners really don’t care about the looks department the same way sedan and SUV buyers do. If they did, then the Hyundai Santa Cruz would be a best selling truck, but instead, trucks that aren’t as curvaceous with gracious designs sell far more units than it.
Let’s see how CT sales do from here. For now, Tesla has their work cut out for them in terms of fulfilling their large number of existing CT orders.
I work in the oil field and that is what im hearing too, I guess we will see what they say after I get mine and let them drive it
I wanna hear all about your experiences
“My wiper is HUNG”
🤣🤣🤣
"you can't hide ugly" I love his honest reaction
This guy you had on was awesome, genuinely him self and was funny as hell.
Skeptical in the beginning, but you can see him slowly turning!
NOT
8/10 on towing.
Q:Why?
A: Because there's not enough dirty exhaust.
It's a big toy for people with money. On towing if it can't stop it its outside of its towing capabilities so therefore 8/10 is generous.
@@who6339 can't stop it...?? Can't stop what?
NHTSA demands a tiny useless mirror, for safety.
That wrap and those rims are... 🔥🔥🔥🔥
All he’ll ever see of the Cybertruck are the taillights 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Farzad, you forgot that all he’s used to is filling up at a gas station, not at home! You never even mentioned that most of the time he would be charging the CT at home overnight. He’s just thinking of wasting time at filling stations.
So if everyone in the USA is commanded to drive an EV. what percentage of them do you think will be able to charge from home?
@@who6339 I am 100% opposed to people being forced to buy or use something. So if everyone in the USA is commanded to drive an EV, the least I would worry about is charging from home. I would worry more about the violent overthrow of the government. But if the transition to EVs happens organically and voluntarily, all owned dwellings will acquire EV charging equipment, and all rented dwellings will feel market forces to acquire EV charging equipment for their tenants. Those apartment owners who do not will have a problem finding tenants to rent their apartments.
They probably didn’t intend for it to be funny but Travis was cracking me up “ya know”. Good episode!
Hi Farzad! Really love your friend's reaction and honesty. He was awesome. Great video!
Farzad-- thanks for getting us the perspective of your everyday truck guy. It seems like he was warming up to the idea of EVs by the end. Last domino to fall is long distance hauling. If Tesla can get battery density up, it's completely over for oil and gas.
Honest opinion from a pick-up truck owner. Farzad needs to get his neighbor into the Tesla Semi for another interview.
Put him in the updated duel motor 3 and then watch the comments...
What a great person to try out the cyber truck. Well done 💯
My ears are aching listening to the "discussion" regarding water as a power source, what to do with the batteries etc...
Travis is awesome, and his "real truck" requirements are valid for many truck owners
This, for sure, is the kind of exposure that WILL change minds and hearts. Excellent piece.
I love watching how you and Travis have such different personalities but you obviously both enjoy each others' company and having valid CT and EV discussions about what is important to each of you.
Air quality is improving fast in all major Chínes cities due to the massive electrification of transport. But hey, both sides can be right,, so no one has to be wrong, cos that sucks.
He will dream about it later and then "come to the dark side". We got cookies.
Such a great discussion Farzad, thanks for posting. Eye opening to hear a civilized debate between y’all
Thanks Travis and Farzad. Awesome and hilarious video; can’t wait for the next ones! Lotsa life to all ❤❤❤
Perfect video. Didn't lead the interview, real person with good experience, covered all the basics
Cannot believe Your friend say it need some greensmoke coming out of the muffler. Crazy funny
Back after the turn of the century, "I like my horse and wagon I'm going to keep them." This is a very interesting social experiment and this happens whenever a new game changing technology arrives. Resistance, acceptance and then adoption.
The game is not so new EVs date back to 1844. but back then the problem was the batteries weighed a ton and didn't last very long. sound familiar?
Absolutely loved watching this journey and exploration of the Cybertruck from a seasoned pickup truck driver's perspective! Travis's honest and detailed feedback, especially about the towing performance and the futuristic design, was incredibly insightful. It's fascinating to see how an experienced driver adapts to and critiques the EV truck world. This video beautifully bridges traditional truck enthusiasm with the emerging EV landscape, offering a unique and valuable viewpoint. Kudos to both of you for such an engaging and informative session on the road!
Only reason for that rear view mirror is because the government requires it, the laws haven't caught up to the cameras
Very enjoyable interaction, thanks guys!
This guy talks like he’s lost a few brain cells to bud light 😆
Thanks. Great video! Ask Travis if he would like to make/save $50/hr eating that burger n fries
people ain't gone say anything about a Lamborghini but as soon as tesla uses a similar design they freak out.
Editor got their $ worth beeping our curse words 😂
This Travis man is a real original 🤣
Grid goes down: classic misunderstanding of how things work. Gas pumps require electricity to work. Plus, there is no way I am going to a gas station in a crisis situation- my life is worth more than that. I would much rather have my car charge off of sunlight in the safety of my own garage. It’s convenient, safe, and costs way less.
Might need new calculator. and for emergencies they make these things called generators whoda thunk it.
When you call something “ugly” while not seeing the irony of driving a normal pickup truck and also calling something “too far into the future” is grasping at straws.
Agreed. It's like saying I'm not there yet ...and it's the trucks fault.
Yep! It's too much change for a lot of people. There's a reason why auto makers change design slowly.
@@cuzzman01 There's also a reason why the auto market was relatively stagnant before Tesla.
Saw one for the first time with a really cool wrap. Turned me into a CyberTruck believer. The wrap made it a rolling work of art, I gotta say. Looked like Blade Runner and Art Basil had a Pickup Truck baby.
@@qwazy0158 Tesla utilizes the same "modern" design queues every single other manufacture has had since 2005 car designs have became soulless.
This truck is built about an hour from my house. I have no idea what country other American trucks are built in.
You mean "...... Other American trucks are "assembled" in...."
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The CT will have the highest percentage of US (in house!) produced *parts* as well.
Many of them are made in mx paying the workers $4-$6hr
😂😂😂 Great interview Farzad. I love this dude’s vibe. He’s funny as f’k. That accent is about as Americana as it comes, and it’s cool to see what he likes and doesn’t like about it. I’m only 20 minutes in to the video, and it’s already growing on him a little. He makes allot of good points in his critique.
Get this guy on again as a guest critic.
Great personality on this guy.
At first I did not like the look of the truck, but after watching him drive, it grew on me. And that wrap on that cybertruck is legit. Dude is so chill and his reaction is priceless.
Travis is Great. Refreshing conversation with humor and frank talk. Thanks!
I don't think the cybertruck was designed to replace the F250. How about charge overnight so you NEVER have to stop and fuel at a filthy gas station every day.
And what about your $300 diesel oil change, transmission service, and differential replacment.
Yup plus tune ups, emissions, urea&def fluid costs, particulate filters etc.
He illegally deleted all his diesel emissions equipment, so he could save 1000lbs and have more power and not have to deal with all those filters. your air quality and health doesn't matter to him.
He's coming around to it! It's the PPF wrap for sure :)
You know it!
Billybob is definitely a country boy 😂
"I want to feel like I'm f#*king it up alittle"
Guy had me rolling.
This was a good video. Dude was genuine and masculine. Just real talk all throughout. Most people I talk with about the Cyber truck say it’s ugly. Nice to see the honesty. Seems like he slowly warmed up to the truck more but kept it real with no BS.
Im not surprised this chap prefers his combustion vehicle, that’s completely his choice. But you could see the evolution of impression and it’s crazy that’s his first drive in any EV! Talk about starting at the top of the mountain! I could easily see the long term running costs offsetting the high purchase price, especially if ya had two trucks to sell and put towards a Cybertruck. Some folk embrace progress and some crave the familiar. The running cost comparison between the two won’t even be in the same zip code. Farzad is doing a magnificent job of representing the future.
Depends what you need it for. If you are towing often then the Cybertruck is out. The running costs doesnt really matter if your time is worth more than the cost of running the truck when it comes to charging.
@@pin65371The F150, Cybertruck, Rivian EV’s are the first of their kind. They will improve and range will extend over time. I can tow my work trailer up to 200 miles with my model y which is twice what I need for my local based business. A Cybertruck would be a mobile bill board for us, but your correct long distance duties will need to be undertaken by diesel vehicles for the foreseeable future.
@@XAJUSSShort distances will be fine for moderate loads. Range will need to improve over time, we need to be pragmatic enough to accept EV’s cannot do all jobs just yet. For local trades men, Real estate agents etc this will be a dream.
Farzad has the patience of a saint. I love his reaction to hydrogen fuel cell vehicles, instead of saying it’s Toyota’s delay scam, which it is, he just says he skeptical.
Great interview! Enjoyed listening to his views on the truck and electric in general.
Too FAR into the future? Newsflash: We're a quarter of the way through the 21st Century, dude. . . .
I tow my motorcycles & my boat with my Model Y. Def less range, but its still perfectly fine.
I really enjoyed this interview. Salt of the earth.
Best U2B video to date!
I can relate to your friend as he tells it like it is, unfiltered.
Thanks!
Great work Travis and Farzad. This video is very informative and entertaining 😂
By the way, BEAUTIFUL job with the video! Scene changes showing the trailer, then back to the cab, then front view, etc. Totally professional feeling video. 👍
Is the frunk a waist of space? Hell no! "I could probably fit about at least 2 cases of beer right here and then ice"
I enjoyed watching this both perspectives make a good conversation great video
This was actually fun to watch! I really appreciated the perspective although I disagreed with a few comments, you have to understand where this guy is coming from. As a Tesla fan, investor and owner of a Model S, the comment I have to agree with most is the front dash. It is huge and useless to the driver or passengers...unless you have a few cats 😂
thank you farzad jan, we need more of these exposures. this is the most honest real world review some one could have. one issue you may wanna adress : when hauling cybertruck has no rear view at all. no mirror and the camera just shows what is being hauled.
Same with any vehicle that tows a travel trailer or other style of high trailer
Loved this guy. So many great one liners in here.
Oh dang! I have been waiting for this video for quite some time. I use the same lock sound, gets me to smile every time.
Loved the video!! Real and natural reactions!!
Thanks for the video Farzad. Travis is a "natural" and it was nice to see his "other side of the fence".
That clapping technique is actually a really great idea.
What if the grid goes down??..... What if gas doubles in price?. both equally possible. bump gas 30% and......
“My super is HUNG”
🤣🤣🤣
Thank you Travis for your honest review. I really enjoy seeing other perspectives. Great video Farzad 👍💯
Love this video! Getting this guys genuine take is EPIC!
You didn’t film his final thoughts? I stuck around all the way through… come on Bro!! Lol
You both were Fun to Watch, Thanks for Sharing. An 84 year old M3 owner w/ 85K miles.
This conversation made my head hurt.
I couldn't help but to think this video is like Marty McFly meets Doc Brown from Back to the Future movie when Farzad explains all the features of the CT.
These two get along well. That's a big plus for this video.